Only issue with game was price.. i do think it's too much for the content.
That said i forked out for premium and am enjoying ..even at Kingpin 41.
I still have a lot of blueprints and cosmetics to unlock... so endgame is what you make it.
I love accepting all delivery helm missions and just farming poppy and sugar cane from all the small fleets every 400 metersšš I'm out in the middle of no where in my Snow fighting 6-10 ships at a time. Overloaded as shit šššš named that Hog of a ship the S.S Wailmer
Yeah, if some weren't bugged. Try to buy poppy or sugar can't from roving ships...show up and it says to get the needed materials (silver). Have way more than enough
Thereās room for an upgrade here for the name once they put a bigger ship in the gameā¦. and I love that so much I might even steal the idea from you. You could have the SS WAILORD and his little buddy the ss wailmer lmfao.
Can we talk about how the game spawns rogue ships right next to you when we do the helm missions. It completely removes the purpose of the spy glass and it's annoying. Nothing like scanning the horizon for rogues only for them to spawn right where you just looked
I think the more helm missions you take, the more rogue ships spawn. I took like 8 missions and they were everywhere. Killed then all, but they weee guarding that little island, I could never disembark lol
Because like most Americans, they're complicit. I wish people would realize if they stop buying trash things would get much better. People will continue to allow record car sales but then complain the cars aren't built right. It's not gonna change by giving the crooks your money.
Shit by the time season 1 drops you will have more thenbenough to do and the 3 months from theb is season 2 and then 3 and 4 and then 5 , lmfao so the endgame content will just grow honestly I also imagine the mapnexpanding and from what I have heard they already have more ships to add into the game their just waiting on content release
Iām struggling to get blueprints, they just say āfound in red islesā. Does that mean I just have to look around and find it, or are they unlocked in quests?
Also if you actually track the blueprints it should highlight the outpost on your map. And then once you acquire the blueprint itāll highlight where you can source the materials
The description will say āfound in [insert region]ā followed by from merchant at X outpost. And then if you track the blueprint it even shows which outpost it is on the map.
I love the game because I have always liked ship-to-ship combat in sci-fi games and wargames and I think Elite on the Commodore 64 & BBC computers started me on that pathway. Skull and Bones is ideal for me because it's exactly like Elite, with it's ship-to-ship combat and trading, but set on the high seas with a pirate theme. What's not to like?
I do have Black Flag but, as per usual for me, it was the naval aspect that hooked me. The parkour and stealth stuff I found to be a chore. It was fun for an hour and then after that it just annoyed me. The ship combat though... chef's kiss.
Yeah the Assassin's Creed half of Black Flag made me stop playing Black Flag :P
This is most like Elite Dangerous + Uncharted Waters had a strange baby. And I'm not sure if that was even the intention...
Not in the very early versions of Elite it wasn't, but I take your point. I play Elite Dangerous every now and again, but the player base is so low and so spread out because of the vastness of space it's effectively a single-player game. It's irrelevant how vast the map is if all you do is fight NPC ships and trade, which is what we have in this game but at least other players get encountered a lot. It makes Elite seem a bit sterile and soulless, much as I love Elite Dangerous.
Except Eliteās multiplayer sucks ass & been bugged for years, Elite is a basically single player game. So S&B is great because you can play with friends or solo.
I just got suggested a video from a popular YouTuber crapping on this game and my first thought was, "Does this dude like anything?" I think the anti-fan gimmick is coming to an end. I'd much rather watch people talk about things they love than things they hate and the constant negativity makes it harder for the legit criticisms to be heard.
If youāre talking about who I think youāre talking about then yeahā¦ I unsubscribed from him just yesterday after following him since back in elites peak. Like am I suppose to hate on every aspect of the games I love and enjoy nothing..?
I'm also enjoying it alot so far but I'm not far yet. I do wish they'd get the chat fixed so u can coordinate with co-op. I usually join in when players in the world I'm in want help, but it would be nice to coordinate other stuff after your done blasting. Other than that I think this game is a blast so far šš
I think the "AAAA" commentary from Ubisoft did this game way, _way_ more damage than any of its gameplay comparisons ever could.
All of the arguments are pointing out what this game is _not_ instead of what it is. The graphical complaints also make zero fucking sense to me, because this game looks beautiful on my PC. Honestly, the hate is so wildly bizarre that I wonder if it's just people acting like lemmings.
Game is chill and fun. That's all I really want from any of the games I like, and this one succeeded in that regard. Cringeworthy and hilarious "Capitalism Bad" intro notwithstanding.
Historically, most pirates in fact could not swim.
Taking out enemies in boarding would be ok if this was a purely PvE game but the reality is, itās not. The combat would either be streamlined and janky or the focus of the game like it was in AC.
I certainly love the entirely oversized islands that you can explore precisely 0.5% of. Or that my flintlock is just a cosmetic on my waist. I especially enjoy not having a fucking sword in a pirate game too. Oh did I mention you can't even jump?
This isnāt a game about exploration on islands or close combat between two people. Itās about boats and shooting boats. Iād assume you feel the same about world of warships or warthunder naval given these complaints right?
No because they aren't marketed as pirate games...if they wanted to label it naval pirates I'd have been more understanding. Skull and bones and all the 'pirate kingpin' bs would lead me to believe this is a game about all of pirate life. The majority of people when they think about pirates picture the fantasy aspects of them, like some Pirates of the Caribbean shit. Skull and bones touches on this with the sea monster fight. So don't tell me its a game about being a hardass naval commander, its a pirate game. One that should be filled to the brim with all the things that are attached to pirate life. Sadly, the game feels lazy and missing many of the elements of being a pirate.
Also a game where all you do is sail around and shoot shit and yet you can't even walk around your ship?
I honestly hate sea of thieves but its 100x over a better pirate game than skull and bones simply because the freedom and immersion it allows for. Skull and bones is fun for what it is, decent mechanics as well but it shouldn't be labeled as a pirate game imo.
I was not waiting for this game, I am not comparing it to anything, I'm having a blast. Give it a few months of added content / QOL and a lot of people will get in regretting not starting earlier.
I share the same thought as you, I feel like the game will get better, and the game will go on sale, bunch of people will buy it, and regret being so far behind
I feel the opposite, people joining after or during season 2 will probably have a blast but if they talk to any "veteran" from launch and the betas , they'll realise how lucky they were not to be there when the game didn't have much to do. I'd guesstimate that season 2 / season 3 is when Ubisoft is gonna know about the fate of their game. Hopefully it will be good news for us because S&B is a lot of fun.
Not only do I think the game is fun but it's exactly the type of game I like to play so for me $70 is worth it because I know I'm gonna get my moneys worth.
I bought this game after watching someone new to it play it on twitch. I didnāt know anything about what it was compared to, I didnāt know it was 11 or whatever years in the making. I read the reviews that said it was garbage bla bla bla and said fuck it, it looks fun. And hey guess what? Iām having fun! I like games where you can pick your own pace sometimes. Instead of go go go shoot shoot shoot. Sometimes itās nice to just chill and be a drunk pirate screwing around and smuggling rum and cutting down trees. Are there bugs? Sure. Give me a game that doesnāt have any on the market now. Youāre lying. Could it be better? Sure. But Iām having fun. Is that worth the price of the game? It is! Guess what? All games cost between 50 and 70 or upwards of 120$. Thatās where we are now. Thatās what shit costs. Tell me how much you have paid for CODā¦Iāll wait. Then tell me how many bugs,cheaters,disconnects and fuck ups it has had and still has. Play what you like because you like it. If you listen to every review full of hate and bile youāll never play anything. Iām having fun playin this game. Thatās all that matters.
Gaming is so much better when you operate on your own opinions rather than those of others. Iāve had so much fun playing this game and other online games when I stopped caring what the general consensus about each game is.
The Game is Not bad. Needs a Bit more stuff in it. If you enjoy it isnt that all what counts? I enjoy it too. So i dont care about all those negative nancies. Im just having my fun with this Game.
I'm glad you're having fun, some people are and that's good.
The "hate" or, rather, complaints that people have about the game are unfortunately very real and justified.
Yeah this thread should be studied as an example of sunk cost fallacy or something. If people are enjoying it then thatās fine. Trying to counter all the complaints about it is a bit odd though.
The most annoying argument Iāve seen for it is: āwell they asked for black flag without the assassins creed and now theyāre complaining that they got itā
You can take the entire assassins creed element out of black flag and you would still have plenty of pirate gameplay that exceeds this by an embarrassing amount. Imagine pirates of the Caribbean but they never fought with swords.
These threads are so lame to me and it happens every time with mediocre live service games. Like it's perfectly ok that it's ok. "Hate", or what we really mean criticism, is definitely warranted because this is in no way, shape, or form a $60 game. This is a $30 game and should have been priced as such.
People wanting AC4 and getting a stripped down experience are right to be upset. It is a step down in more ways than one. People are right to question what exactly the devs have been to improve on the formula and it just doesnt really seem like much has changed at all. Worse, it doesn't capture the combat, doesn't capture the naval aspect, and doesn't carry the pirate experience. Just wears a mantle that doesn't belong to it.
But that doesn't mean it's bad. What it does mean is that it's ok. The beta and free trial has shown me it can still be fun, but it's not a AAAA experience. Just priced and set to nickel and dime the consumers like one. A price cut should really be done. That or I'll just wait til it hits 50% off within 6 months like most Ubisoft titles do.
>People wanting AC4 and getting a stripped down experience are right to be upset
People that were expecting AC4 only have themselves to blame for expectations that were never based in fact. I clearly remember when AC4 came out and the community was begging for a version that was only the naval combat without the AC part and that's exactly what we got.
But that's not what we got? We got a *worse* version of Black Flag's naval combat. It's not unreasonable to expect a company that made Black Flag, make a pirate game that is at *least* on par with the elements it borrows from it. Especially at a ridiculous price tag of $70.
Nobody even expected them to improve upon the formula, which honestly is what they should've done, because stagnating isn't good either. People set their expectations low and they still failed to match them.
Those people were a small minority if they existed at all. This game has a tiny, barren map, the exploration is super stale since thereās nothing to actually interact with at the islands and the story is absolute dirt. The ship combat is pretty good but they really should have built a game with that not a bunch of filler to justify a 70$ dumbed down sea of thieves.
If not, at least a price tag that fits. This is a $30/$40 game. At full price, they're competing with an eleven year old product that is not only cheaper, but provides a better experience.
Skull and Bones literally started as DLC for black flag. And yeah Black flag that was only pirate themed naval combat would have been amazing. But we didn't get anything even close to as good as that.
Real shit I've played all those to know. ESPECIALLY ANTHEM, W,e get these really passive aggressive threads of people saying hey. *I'm* having fun. Or the "haters" got this wrong. Or some lame ass thing like thing that. Or this game has "potential". Folks wanna come out the woodworks to defend their purchase from a studio that frankly half assed it and delivered a product that's not up to expectations.
Skull and Bones isn't Nickelback. They're more like O-Town when Backstreet Boys is right there. They're ok if that's what you were into, but you're not beating I Want It That Way.
what is with the $70 hate? Every game cost that much these days. It isn't that this one is more. Just go to gamestop or amazon. Every new game cost exactly the same...
It's bizarre that this became some kind of SnB issue.
Stop justifying the $70 price tag the ONLY game that was worth 70 bucks this generation would have been elden ring if it was priced that high. NO game has proven why they needed that price hike.Ā
I donāt want games to be $70. Iām not justifying it. Iām saying itās not a Skull and Bones issue when nearly EVERY game by a big company is priced at this point (the last Assassinās Creed game was priced at $39 btw).
And Elden Ring has plenty of bugs (just google it) and would be considered āunpolishedā in many ways. It doesnāt mean it wasnāt a great game and a worthy GOTY candidate.
Once again S&B has a free 8 hour trial. Play it if you wish. If you want more than 8 hours buy it or get Ubisoft+. Pretty simple.
You know that is just not true, right? Perhaps you mean every AAA game is that price tag. But the game doesn't have anywhere near that sort of polish. Seventy bucks for a polished game, like, say, recent god of war titles, are more deserving. When the game has 3 hours of delivery quests at the start, and objectively pointless on foot towns (why? Just make them menus, why do I have to sit through 2 loading screens to talk to the damn tailor?) and highly aggressive micro transactions, it shouldn't be anywhere near the pricetag it's at.
Tekken 8 - $69
Higwarts - $69
FF VII - $69
CoD MW3 - $69
Spiderman 2 - $69
Rise of the Ronin - $69
MLB the Show - $69
WWE 24 - $69
Suicide Squad - $69
games are priced pretty consistently. It's not based on your perceived level of polish.
There is also an 8 hour free trial, which correct me if I am wrong, none of the above games have.
And yet, Helldivers 2, Deep Rock Galactic, Lethal Company, Dead by Daylight, are all games that are cheaper, and have less bugs, while having a much more popular review and general consensus on their games being more polished than Skull and Bones.
Games like God of War, Spiderman 1 and 2, those are AAA titles that back it up. They're quality. They aren't ten years of development hell that lead to pointless loading screens in a town.
my biggest gripe are the people that try to compare S&B to ACBF
feel free to bitch and moan about S&B in comparison to other live service multiplayer games
but comparing it to a single player game is just dumb
whats next? comparing The Division to The last of us because they both are 3rd person games?
Since S&B is literally created from Black Flag it's absolutely fair to compare the two when talking about gameplay or related elements. Not to do so is just silly like your odd division and the last of us comment. The Division didn't start it's life as a last of us DLC and shares nothing in common with that game outside of being 3rd person and having guns. Don't be disingenuous cmon?
S&B was never meant to be Black Flag 2 it was always only inspired by certain elements of that game. Comparing any single player game to a live service game is ridiculous.
Literally started out as Black Flag DLC buddy so not sure what you're talking about. Comparing elements between the two games that are present in both (and in most cases almost identical in both just better usually in BF) is totally valid. Sorry. A naval ship sailing and combat game is still a naval ship sailing and combat game whether there's other players present or not my dude.
I don't see the game being overhated, it deserve most of its criticism because of the currently ridiculous price tag and AAAA comments from ubisoft in comparison to its current content value.
Game is a lot of fun, game has a lot of fun thing to come, it's just weird that they priced a game that won't have the content its price suggest until a good 3 to 6 months in the future. Most people will have shelved the game by now because of having nothing else to do and not all of them will feel like coming back afterward.
Hopefully the seasonal content is good enough to get the game on track for the future quickly as right now it is sadly taking a massive reputation hit because of the pricing issue.
I love the game but I finished the scurlock story, got to cutthroat 1. But idk what to do now, I donāt understand how the bartender missions work. I also feel like Iām stuck between not knowing how to level my Snow past 8, but also getting wrecked by ships in the East Indies.
Anyone have any tips? Iām in the middle of trying to get the Brigantine but running out of silver
The criticisms where they list all the things Black Flag had that this doesn't annoy the hell out of me. It's not supposed to be an Assassin's Creed game, so obviously it doesn't have those things. I wasn't even expecting to be able to walk around on islands. If you just want it to be the same as Black Flag, play Black Flag. Pretty simple. What they did is make an always-online game with a ton of customization and they made the ship battles a lot deeper. I enjoyed it and got through the beta, but didn't love it so much that I needed to buy it though. Ubisoft games get cheap so quickly anyways. I just don't think it's a valid criticism to say that Assassin's Creed has all these things and they're not in Skull and Bones, like no shit.
I paid over $100 for the steelbook version of this game from gamestop and have sunk over 70 hours in this game. Ive never enjoyed myself more in a game. I really hope they keep updating it and making it even better. I hate paying $70 for a video game and this game is the only one i can actually be okay with paying that much for it
I can 100% say you definitely need to pick up black flag. It's a lot of this game + actual boarding fights and the whole game is just top tier. I'm also enjoying the crap out of this game, a little salty I've missed out on 2 takeovers and 2 helm wager events because I randomly disconnected from the server each time. But I'm still absolutely enjoying it.
The price tag vs content is a hard sell for most. Coupled with the idiotic statement by Ubi's CEO has done the game no favors.
I'm enjoying my time with the game thus far. Once you reach Kingpin a whole new game opens up, although that could also be contentious as some people won't consider the time investment worthwhile.
I don't hate this game, my disappointment mainly stems from the fact that the sailing in general feels outdated compared to a game from 10+ years ago. I don't even mind the lack of land functionality that much as I genuinely enjoy sailing.
I agree that it's over-hated but I also think this game suffers from maaaaaaaaany issues that desperately need to be resolved and for adjustments to be made to make the gameplay overall more smooth. It's fun, I just want it to become what it's capable of being.
I honestly think the game is over defended lol
If people complained and the response was "yeah but I'm still having fun" there'd be far less nonsense in the sub.
Instead we have posts like these who claim the game is being unfairly criticised, being dismissive of people's genuine comments and concerns
I understand both sides to be honest. Despite comparing the game to Black Flag myself, it is a little annoying to see everyone basically demanding that to happen. This game is worthy of valid criticism just like any other, but also it's been greatly dunked on for actions of a CEO who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and the development hell it's gone through.
I think we need both types of posts within moderation and in a way, we need to acknowledge both sides of the table. One side clearly very much enjoys it, one side doesn't and wants it to be better. We all want this game to succeed, but that won't happen if we're too busy badgering or worshipping every detail.
Still though, I appreciate your input and it was nice to take a step back and think more on the comments and posts overall from your viewpoint. I hope you have a wonderful day btw!
I agree with pretty much everything you said lol
I'm not trying to tell people not to enjoy the game or anything like that, just be open to criticism, and be open to people enjoying something you don't. Liking a bad game doesn't make you an idiot. People have their preferences, everybody's looking for something.
A lot of people are all or nothing. "I like this game so it's a good game." Or "I hate this game so it's a bad game". Liking a bad game or hating a good game is seen as a crazy take.
Look at this user I tried to have a conversation with in this post, for example... https://www.reddit.com/r/SkullAndBonesGame/s/GyCdBK9r36
Sorry for venting out a little bit there lol You have a lovely day too, now :)
Criticism is not inherently bad and can boost something to greater heights. Everything needs a critical eye once in a while and games are no exception. Without criticism things go into stagnation which eventually leads to them dying off.
Also that's incredibly rude, being told your opinion is idiotic and that you have a personality disorder for simply having a well regulated stance on a subject is just telling of that poster's personality and how they treat others. We get no where by badgering eachother or demanding one side be victorious over the other. Insert the fairly typical response of, 'I'm sure they're fun at parties'.
And no worries on the venting lmao, it was interesting to see just how seriously people take a game as simple as this or the simple notion of constructive and healthy criticism being given. Whether to the game itself or the community.
That was a very nicely put comment and thank you for the kind words, as well.
It's nice to know I'm not actually crazy lol It was lovely chatting with you
Criticism isnāt hate. Ubisoft selling this game as a quadruple A game is just bonkers for what it is.
That being said, I hope everyone else is enjoying the game
There is some legitimate criticism but most negative comments you see on here are along the lines of "it's trash", "dumpster fire", "you're an idiot for paying for this garbage", etc.... Those kind of comments are pure hate.
Ubisoft is NOT selling this game as Quadruple AAAA.. the media (and players) are taking a quote out of context and mocking that quote acting as if Ubi is selling it as a AAAA game because the CEO mentioned that's what it cost to make.
THe $70 price tag is Ubi's fairly standard rate for their AAA games at launch (Ubi has always charged... more than others for their products).
No marketing or hype generated by Ubi is claimin git's AAAA, only the boneheaded CEO answering investor questions about price point and the media pushing that because... well.. he deserves to be lampooned for that statement.
Some people, prominent YTs included have been hating since S&Bs inception.
They game has changed drastically since its first reveal as arena combat, closer to World of Warships, than its current iteration.
Itās been destroyed & restarted several times it appears by the ārevolving doorā creative directors. So I consider its current form to be the work of 5/6 years, not 10.
It doesnāt help with Ubi exec comments.
I think one factor is that the nature of gaming has been changed, largely in part by YT and the need for min/maxing & quest for the perfect build. This immediately turns any game into a chore; a pursuit to find & use the best gear ASAP (To be āthe firstā) in the need for content creation.
That mindset, I find sucks the fun out. It feels as though playing a game is now a hustle unto itself.
Right now, Iām playing, loving it. My ship is anchored up just listening to the various battles going on in all directions.
People crying out for an endless feed of content, yet they want all the content right now.
Itās been out a week or so(officially) & there are those who have pumped 100+ hours already(judging by various posts) & yet moaning that there is nothing to do.
If you you want to put a price breakdown on that as a metric to measure fun per hour(a friend got me doing this), they use Ā£1 per hour as if they received good value-for-money.
Iām not saying the game doesnāt have flaws, it does. But for reason, S&B has garnered so much more hate pre & post launch, than other games which vastly over promised & under delivered, with the obvious examples being No Mans Sky & CP2077, not to mention Starfield.
It took NMS & CP2077 a year+ to become what they were promised to be at launch, but their launch issues are either being given a free pass or ignored because of the games they have become.
If you go for the Ā£1 per hour of fun, problem is that most of the hours you currently spend in S&B is to play the delivery driver , not really what i'd call "fun". the sailing is a lot of fun, the game IS a lot of fun, but the current end game suck all the fun out of the game.
Season 1 hasn't even started so I feel like trying to judge the game right now without knowing what's coming isn't exactly fair. It's a bit too early to judge the endgame right now.
So the game as it is, isn't complete? You need a season to make the game?
They are reviewing what was launched. People are saying they are having fun with what was launched.
You are saying, people should wait until ~~S1, S2, S3, S4, Year 1,~~ Year 2 to review what they paid for?
Endgame is endgame right now. What people paid for. The fact that in 3-9 months we may have a way not to have to do delivery runs, and this may or may not ship.
The game shipped, and you review what shipped. Things may be better in Season 1, may be worse!
Then it's a bit too early to sell the game full price when the content doesn't drop until 2 weeks after launch, is it not ? It's a genuine question, I'm not here to argue, i'm curious about your opinion on the matter.
For me, I consider that I should get the value of my spending available at launch, The game and its roadmap clearly show that 70ā¬ is nothing for what is to come in a 6months time, but I don't buy the game for 6 months in the future, I buy it for today, do I make sense ?
Tbh the beginning is especially slow and tedious, which is as far as most reviewers get. I wasn't loving it but pushed through, and now I'm having a good time
I will say, the on-foot gameplay is so trash it's amazing. Just have the settlements/ports be menus, there's no reason to be wandering around at one pace with no ability to jump/climb/interact beyond cutscenes. And the camera angle sucks, makes it tough to navigate on foot
It's funny how many vehicle based games mess this up. There's a desire to make an avatar then use the avatar so they come up with some form of out of vehicle capabilities so you can use your avatar but it's always "tacked on".
I love having an avatar to dress up and outfits etc. It's fine. But I don't necessarily need a wander around a base feel per say. The "hunt the foozle" treasure chest find in outposts doesn't add much to the game play in its current form.
It is a shame there's no off-ship combat of any kind and perhaps if this variant of the game had more than the 2 years it did in the oven, we'd have something there but it's not meant to be here.
Played the full 8 hour trial and had a lot of fun. I played Black Flag and loved it, and, while this is certainly a much different game, it is scratching a different itch that I also enjoy. Definitely donāt think itās worth anywhere near $70, tho. Iāll pick it up when it inevitably drops below $40.
I detached myself from all the hate being thrown at the game and just went into it with no expectations. I have really enjoyed it so far. There are some things I wish it had, of course, but it hasn't diminished my fun so far.
No no NO!. You can't be pleased with the game! It's a self claimed AAAA game at 70$! YOU HAVE TO BE DISPLEASED! You simply must be angry and revolting! Why are you HAPPY and having FUN! STOP IT! STOP HAVING FUN YOU INCEL! ITS SUCH A SHITTY HORRIBLE GAME THAT NO ONE CAN ENJOY!
We can have fun and enjoy the game but still think it's a disappointment in a lot of aspects.
All you're doing here is making the people who defend the game look like assholes.
This would make the game even better. I just feel like it's a bit hollow after a while. Love the game, but could be a lot more enjoyable if I were able to go aboard an enwmy ship and slash mfers up lol
I agree completely. Mostly it was just some dumb P.R. flak's comments that invited the approbation of the entire world with that 'Quadruple-A' crap.
I think most of the criticism is founded in unrealistic expectations, anyone can come up with some imaginary multiplayer game which has 100% feature-parity with a single-player game, but it's a completely different affair to actually build it.
The whole **TEN YEARS** bit is also a critique grounded in ignorance and unrealistic expectations. No, Ubisoft did not spend all ten years making this one game. They spent ten years building a game studio *from the ground up*, and this is the first title they've created.
Obviously it's still very rough around the edges, and hopefully with some patches and content drops, it should be good fun for a while, I've already got my $70 worth from it.
The fact that the game would have been cancelled long ago if Ubisoft wasn't under contract to finish and deliver it says all you need to know about the games development tbh.
I hate that a game relies on hours played instead of skill and cunning. The point you make about it sounds terrible. Same reason division sucks so bad.
Dude, i asked him if he reached the endgame to check if he is still leveling with the story or farming 8s to check whats his base of opinion..chill fanboy.
Yeah I do t get it. The amount of hours you put in including leveling, fucking around etc. is worth the ā¬80 on time alone. And then they moan about being bored after all that time spent.
It really isn't though. There's games out there with practically thousands of hrs worth of fun due to their freedom, choices presented, different storylines etc. Compare rdr2 to S&B then tell me its still worth that price. Its a fun game at its core, but it will get old very quick with the lack of freedom it currently has. People want games to live out fantasies and escape bullshit in reality. Without immersion the entire thing feels empty after some time, just a shallow shell of what it could be. I mean not even being able to explore the massive islands or walk around your ship? Tons of rum/liquor but I can't drink it. Can't pull out a sword and gut someone when they blatantly disrespect me?
Do we know if our own ships will be used for fleet management ? I honestly doubt so. Crafting a heck ton of Brigantines will be easy by then, there will be no challenge.
Trying to focus more on events, ghost ships and monsters. 8 farming is a large part of my gameplay at the moment, but Iām set on obtaining the best stuff
The thing is you can't get the best stuff. The ghostship and sea monster doesn't drop the second material needed to craft the Oroboros hull or Blue Specter.
blue specter (not the blueprint though) can be obtaine by killing the ghostship though, quiet a bunch of people are already running it..... i did not have luck so far, but not farming extensively for it... it drops when it drops.....
Iām aware, but Iād like to work towards it, so once we can obtain it, Iāll be able to get it. I can understand that endgame can be boring, and if all that progress resets after 90 days, Iāll be furious, but I enjoy the grind, I like seeing my number go up on the leaderboard
It will be a fresh start for each season, but if you stockpile enough you can make tons from the start of the next season with all the upgrades you'd be able to do
Yeah..thats the point. For a AAAA game, sailing between settlements every 5h is just not enough.
If they would have sold it for 40ā¬ and not "AAAA", the hate wouldn't be that intense.
The term AAAA is just to mean it cost a lot of money to make, it's not supposed to mean it's the best game ever made. It's a misconception a lot of people have that more As mean better game.
Now I do agree that right now 70$ is too much for the game, but you can also just sub 1 month with Ubisoft+, do the content and unsub, then come back once there's more content or when it will inevitably be on sales.
Well, not this one for sure !
But many game deserve their price tag, from ubisoft, and a kinda game as a service style AC valhalla was worthy of its full price for exemple.
S&B is really strange as they monetize it like a F2P game with pass and cash shop while selling it at full price. Problem is most game as a service are either free to play or have a low price of entry, look at dead by daylight, fortnite, overwatch, conan exiles and such for exemple, and another major difference, they are built around "make your own fun" mindset, S&B does not have that in game in its current state, PvP is shallow and bland, there's no meaningful repeatable PvP content to do.
Basically, your friends are right to want it at a lower price tag and i personally put my money where my mouth is and after 2 close beta, open beta and preordering the game in hope launch would be more than what we knew it would be, I refunded it and will wait for it to drop in price according to it's current gameplay value.
I'll have plenty of time to wait with Dragon dogma 2 being out next month anyway xD
Baldurs gate 3 at that price tag is worth it, game that was complete at launch. On top of my head that i can remember - Elden ring (got 300 hours out of it) even though it was cheaper...
But there's a difference. It's perfectly fine if it's not your type of game, that's a subjective opinion, a matter of taste. But things like quality (polish, lack of bugs, voice acting, etc) and quantity (how many hours can you play, how many different systems there are, replayability, etc) are things that are more or less objectively measurable. The worth of a game (or any other thing really) usually consists of all those factors.
If somebody asks "what game is worth 70 bucks" then I will first think of quality and quantity of game content, and then consider their personal taste to give them a proper answer. But I couldn't ignore the quality and quantity. In a situation where somebody enjoys the type of game that is BG3, the game is clearly worth 70 dollars based on the other factors. But despite the fun factor, SaB is not. Which does not mean people shouldn't or can't enjoy it. Just means it's hard to say it's worth $70.
I think a lot of people want or need more constant interaction and button clicking to stay focused on a game. And this one won't do it for them as you do spend decent time sailing. If you're early game and trying to do all the quests you encounter this can escalate quickly and isn't very rewarding imo. I started enjoying it more when I ignored most quests and just focused on ship building and materials needed to see more tangible results.
Itās a good game for sure. But still deserves the hate itās gets. They gave themselves all the time in the world and still released a janky mess. But if they step up. It could be great
I don't think it's really fair to boil people's black flag comparisons down to them wanting it to be the same game. I didn't expect any of the on foot gameplay from Assassins Creed... but I am still disappointed in every feature or system that those two games do share where they somehow managed to do it WORSE than the 10 year old game it's based on. :/
that and them taking inspiration from Sea of thieves with the Sea monster fight, yet they didn't take the Treasure map system, which would have been more entertaining than "run around until the lord send you a beam of light to tell you where to press a button" or even the simple "choose what shanty them sailor will be singing" because I swear to god if I hear bully in the alley ONE MORE TIME when i'm skiping to hear something new.... xD
Game is fine without on foot fighting, but its just severely lacking on the quality of life department.
Yeah, i'm not sure it would have been hard to implement to, they don't need the random worms either, just... the digging bit and searching with the map and landmarks of the area. The game is missing plenty of those little things to not break the immersion, right now we have too many loading screen and cutscenes taking you out of the pirate fun and sailing fantasy.
The game is solid and a lot of fun despite all that which is making me yearn for what could be if they didn't go for "loading" and "cutscene" route every actions we take and instead made it more hands or seamless. The world somehow feel open but then you realise you have to stop and go into all those close pocket on the regular with the outpost, or cutscenes for everything.
Thing is they never promised 'more of Black Flag' - they promised more of Black Flag's naval combat.
It's been years since they showed early builds of the game, and on-foot combat was never on the table.
So while opinions on games are all subjective and valid, the criticism for lack of on-foot combat is as valid as complaining that Forza doesn't let you build a house and furnish it, or that Battlefield and Modern Warfare don't have an economic simulation and trade routes on the map.
As soon as they said "quadruple A game" they got exactly what they deserved. I mean they took a game from a decade ago, stripped it of all the fun stuff then sold it for $70. Deserves every ounce of hate it gets.
I spent 110$, and I'm satisfied for now. Im waiting on season 1 and what that'll bring and so on. I didn't want Black Flag 2 personally. Half the ppl wanted BF 2 the other half wanted something new. In the end can't please everyone. And in this day and age ppl will cry just to cry.
It's got some flaws for sure, but when dickheads like Bellular or whatever his name is punch out videos with blatant misinformation like 'you can just buy endgame currency from the store' it's going to keep circulating.
Same here, I love it. Was not going to buy it until reviews dropped, so that was that until I saw the 8 hour trial. Killed the 8 hours and bought it. I get why some might hate it but that's not me.
Yes it's a bit messy with no story but the actual time on the high seas is fun.
Yep. Iāve spent the week watching my favorite content creators go āthis is the worst game of the entire year, but i havenāt tried it,ā and lose a bit of my respect for carrying an opinion just cause itās meta
I had been waiting for several years for this game. I was anticipating a black flag ac type action game with an open world. A new ip for Ubisoft. I love Valhalla and Odyssey.I was disappointed when I found out a month or so ago that it would be a live service ship only game. However I am really enjoying it for what it is. It has its faults but it's still really fun
Most say to be worth a price of $70 they have to be better than any other game in some point. But tbh, most games aren't and no game has to be. Sure it's always good when a game is/does, but almost everytime a dev tries something different, most hate on it saying they should stick to what they did previously and best. But at the same time those exact peoples are the ones complaining that we get the same stuff every year... make it make sense... you can't.
Needless to say however that a game's worth is always a matter of subjective opinion, no set price tag will and can please everyone, but it has to be priced for it to be able to sell. And mostly the pricing doesn't revolve around what or how much content there is (how some say it should be). It's always based on production and that value, how much has been put into the project, how many people worked on it, how much time and effort was put into it, even if it's not much that came out of it. That's not always the devs fault.
Either way, it has the 3 core pillars a game needs to have to be at least considered full price, when it comes from a AAA-Dev Studio. Story, Gameplay, Graphics/Performance.
And Skull & Bones comes from a AAA-Dev, so it's expected full price anyway. But it also has a decent story, it's not great by any means, but gets the job done and is set around 30 hours to complete.
Gameplay, what the core concept of this game is and how well this mechanic is done, i'd say that is good as well. It's not great either, but also gets the job done and is fun.
And lastly Graphics/Performance, i can't see any graphical flaws whatsoever and the performance is great too. So in terms of that the game is pretty solid.
So to close this off, is it worth $70? Objectively you can say, yes it is. However since someones personal worth is based on their subjective opinion, the question should be, is it worth $70 to you? And for that answer, you always have to ask that yourself. i paid for the Premium Edition and have no regrets in spending that money. I'm having fun with the game and always had anytime i got to play and test it prior to its release.
Am i sponsored by Ubisoft for saying this? No i'm not. But Ubi still is one of my most loved devs if not the most loved. But even i have games from them i didn't like at all, like AC Odyssey for example. So you can like it or not, but there is no need for toxic hate towards it or other games, unless there is a valid reason, like it was for No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk.
It's really weird how many posts try to rationalize how this game isn't bad. It's almost like the goobers have to tell people that because they like this trash, it must not be trash.
Guess what? You objectively like shit. Everyone isn't wrong, you are wrong. Half baked garbage isn't my standard. If it's yours, that's your business. You aren't convincing anyone that this game is good.
Exceptionally mediocre, and heavily watered down by extremely generic content that acts as a major counter to the things the game (and studio that made it) does best.
It's like they took a quarter of Skyrim, a quarter of Fallout, and all the worst parts of No Man's Sky, then blended them together.. and thought what came out would somehow be better for it.
Then, to top it off.. they made the whole thing have a new game plus mode that basically makes you not care about anything.. which is the opposite of what this genre of game should be doing.
All told, it had problems. Major problems.
Have fun with your 60$ mobile game feedback loop. Game is janky as fuck and the feedback loop is just grinding to unlock the next grind. I wanted to be a pirate, not whatever the fuck this is.
A lot of games with many years of development are worth $70 like Baldurs Gate 3 and even the remastered Assassin's Creed Black flag will be worth $70.
This is a terrible argument, "What game is worth this much?" There are more games that are worth that much than aren't.
What makes it worse is it a full price game with aggressive microtransactions.
I think it deserves all the hate it gets, it is a cut-and-paste asset flip that with terrible bugs like Helm Death marks.
Nah this game ass and is the final straw for me, personally Iām tossing Ubisoft in the āneeds to be shutdown by government for being financially malicious to the publicā along with EA.
I enjoyed the game to point I finished with main story. But now that I cant continue with progress I feel like this game is really worst experience for long time. Ubisoft taking weeks to fix problem that was reported in beta that breaks the game and people cant unlock or advance with helm quests shows how much they value the customers..
Yeah, I have no idea how so many of those bugs ended up in the full release, I reported some 3 freakin' beta ago, an open beta and 2 close beta and none of those i was the first to find them, of course, if feel like everything i reported was still there the next beta and still is at full release .
As the world's first AAAA title people were just expecting more. Future AAAA games will now probably slack off as the bar has been set. Who knows how AAA games will be now. Probably like current AA.
I felt this about Suicide Squad.
There doesn't seem to be a place for middle of the road games anymore.
Everything is either the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.
Only issue with game was price.. i do think it's too much for the content. That said i forked out for premium and am enjoying ..even at Kingpin 41. I still have a lot of blueprints and cosmetics to unlock... so endgame is what you make it.
I love accepting all delivery helm missions and just farming poppy and sugar cane from all the small fleets every 400 metersšš I'm out in the middle of no where in my Snow fighting 6-10 ships at a time. Overloaded as shit šššš named that Hog of a ship the S.S Wailmer
Yeah, if some weren't bugged. Try to buy poppy or sugar can't from roving ships...show up and it says to get the needed materials (silver). Have way more than enough
Thereās room for an upgrade here for the name once they put a bigger ship in the gameā¦. and I love that so much I might even steal the idea from you. You could have the SS WAILORD and his little buddy the ss wailmer lmfao.
The snow is my favorite so far. I know every one goes for the brig.
Kingpin 41 is insane, how many hours you have in the game?
Less than everyone else on my friends list.. But i do a lot of helm missions and with the rogue spawns you get 160 infamy a kill.
Can we talk about how the game spawns rogue ships right next to you when we do the helm missions. It completely removes the purpose of the spy glass and it's annoying. Nothing like scanning the horizon for rogues only for them to spawn right where you just looked
I think the more helm missions you take, the more rogue ships spawn. I took like 8 missions and they were everywhere. Killed then all, but they weee guarding that little island, I could never disembark lol
Oh man, that explains why they had boats everywhere, wonāt be stacking up so many quests now.
That be what Yella bellas would utter, there be no room on these waves for the like.
They are fixing this.
Actually was a glitch fixed today, wasn't supposed to be that bad
I stacked 4 tonight and was leading a nice little convoy of rogues to my end island was hilarious.
Bro, the rogues are easy loot, I specifically hunt them for their goodies.
Yeah I hope they donāt reduce the amount that spawn too much, EASY loot, loads of silver chests, they single-handedly keep my economy afloat
Donāt let this guy fool you, he is actually playing the game way too much haha. Iām kingpin 1 and I have 40 hours so far since last Friday.
More then $80 worth
Exploits to spawn zerg of rogue ships. š
You think the price is an issue but you spent even more than the baseline price for premium? Can you please make that make sense.
Because like most Americans, they're complicit. I wish people would realize if they stop buying trash things would get much better. People will continue to allow record car sales but then complain the cars aren't built right. It's not gonna change by giving the crooks your money.
Shit by the time season 1 drops you will have more thenbenough to do and the 3 months from theb is season 2 and then 3 and 4 and then 5 , lmfao so the endgame content will just grow honestly I also imagine the mapnexpanding and from what I have heard they already have more ships to add into the game their just waiting on content release
Iām struggling to get blueprints, they just say āfound in red islesā. Does that mean I just have to look around and find it, or are they unlocked in quests?
Should be a second line underneath that, that tells you which outpost to find it at
Iāll look again. Thanks
Also if you actually track the blueprints it should highlight the outpost on your map. And then once you acquire the blueprint itāll highlight where you can source the materials
O H. Iām gonna do that when I get home
You can also click track this blueprint and it should give you a marker yo which landing
The description will say āfound in [insert region]ā followed by from merchant at X outpost. And then if you track the blueprint it even shows which outpost it is on the map.
I use CDKEYS saved Ā£20 on the basic game. Buy all my games this way
I love the game because I have always liked ship-to-ship combat in sci-fi games and wargames and I think Elite on the Commodore 64 & BBC computers started me on that pathway. Skull and Bones is ideal for me because it's exactly like Elite, with it's ship-to-ship combat and trading, but set on the high seas with a pirate theme. What's not to like? I do have Black Flag but, as per usual for me, it was the naval aspect that hooked me. The parkour and stealth stuff I found to be a chore. It was fun for an hour and then after that it just annoyed me. The ship combat though... chef's kiss.
Yeah the Assassin's Creed half of Black Flag made me stop playing Black Flag :P This is most like Elite Dangerous + Uncharted Waters had a strange baby. And I'm not sure if that was even the intention...
Try world's of warships. The ship to ship combat is just on a completely other level to this.
If they're going to do that I would suggest War Thunder naval and play Realistic Battles.
War Thunder Naval is a gorgeous mode, it's just it becomes stale after a while
>it's exactly like Elite except that in Elite all Milky Way is yours to explore - which is one the important gameloops there
Not in the very early versions of Elite it wasn't, but I take your point. I play Elite Dangerous every now and again, but the player base is so low and so spread out because of the vastness of space it's effectively a single-player game. It's irrelevant how vast the map is if all you do is fight NPC ships and trade, which is what we have in this game but at least other players get encountered a lot. It makes Elite seem a bit sterile and soulless, much as I love Elite Dangerous.
Except Eliteās multiplayer sucks ass & been bugged for years, Elite is a basically single player game. So S&B is great because you can play with friends or solo.
I just got suggested a video from a popular YouTuber crapping on this game and my first thought was, "Does this dude like anything?" I think the anti-fan gimmick is coming to an end. I'd much rather watch people talk about things they love than things they hate and the constant negativity makes it harder for the legit criticisms to be heard.
Unfortunately negativity generates more clicks and views
Dont forget : negative + open mouth and pointing .Ā
If youāre talking about who I think youāre talking about then yeahā¦ I unsubscribed from him just yesterday after following him since back in elites peak. Like am I suppose to hate on every aspect of the games I love and enjoy nothing..?
I'm also enjoying it alot so far but I'm not far yet. I do wish they'd get the chat fixed so u can coordinate with co-op. I usually join in when players in the world I'm in want help, but it would be nice to coordinate other stuff after your done blasting. Other than that I think this game is a blast so far šš
I think the "AAAA" commentary from Ubisoft did this game way, _way_ more damage than any of its gameplay comparisons ever could. All of the arguments are pointing out what this game is _not_ instead of what it is. The graphical complaints also make zero fucking sense to me, because this game looks beautiful on my PC. Honestly, the hate is so wildly bizarre that I wonder if it's just people acting like lemmings. Game is chill and fun. That's all I really want from any of the games I like, and this one succeeded in that regard. Cringeworthy and hilarious "Capitalism Bad" intro notwithstanding.
Can the main character swim? What's it like boarding the other ship and taking them out?
Historically, most pirates in fact could not swim. Taking out enemies in boarding would be ok if this was a purely PvE game but the reality is, itās not. The combat would either be streamlined and janky or the focus of the game like it was in AC.
I certainly love the entirely oversized islands that you can explore precisely 0.5% of. Or that my flintlock is just a cosmetic on my waist. I especially enjoy not having a fucking sword in a pirate game too. Oh did I mention you can't even jump?
This isnāt a game about exploration on islands or close combat between two people. Itās about boats and shooting boats. Iād assume you feel the same about world of warships or warthunder naval given these complaints right?
No because they aren't marketed as pirate games...if they wanted to label it naval pirates I'd have been more understanding. Skull and bones and all the 'pirate kingpin' bs would lead me to believe this is a game about all of pirate life. The majority of people when they think about pirates picture the fantasy aspects of them, like some Pirates of the Caribbean shit. Skull and bones touches on this with the sea monster fight. So don't tell me its a game about being a hardass naval commander, its a pirate game. One that should be filled to the brim with all the things that are attached to pirate life. Sadly, the game feels lazy and missing many of the elements of being a pirate.
Also a game where all you do is sail around and shoot shit and yet you can't even walk around your ship? I honestly hate sea of thieves but its 100x over a better pirate game than skull and bones simply because the freedom and immersion it allows for. Skull and bones is fun for what it is, decent mechanics as well but it shouldn't be labeled as a pirate game imo.
I was not waiting for this game, I am not comparing it to anything, I'm having a blast. Give it a few months of added content / QOL and a lot of people will get in regretting not starting earlier.
I share the same thought as you, I feel like the game will get better, and the game will go on sale, bunch of people will buy it, and regret being so far behind
I feel the opposite, people joining after or during season 2 will probably have a blast but if they talk to any "veteran" from launch and the betas , they'll realise how lucky they were not to be there when the game didn't have much to do. I'd guesstimate that season 2 / season 3 is when Ubisoft is gonna know about the fate of their game. Hopefully it will be good news for us because S&B is a lot of fun.
If only an AAAA game released with more content to begin with
More like people will be happy they didn't start at launch when Skull and Bones is...bare bones lmao
Not only do I think the game is fun but it's exactly the type of game I like to play so for me $70 is worth it because I know I'm gonna get my moneys worth.
I mean, I played every beta and was beyond pleased. Bet your ass I paid the 100 for premium and then some for cosmetics š¤£ š¤£
I bought this game after watching someone new to it play it on twitch. I didnāt know anything about what it was compared to, I didnāt know it was 11 or whatever years in the making. I read the reviews that said it was garbage bla bla bla and said fuck it, it looks fun. And hey guess what? Iām having fun! I like games where you can pick your own pace sometimes. Instead of go go go shoot shoot shoot. Sometimes itās nice to just chill and be a drunk pirate screwing around and smuggling rum and cutting down trees. Are there bugs? Sure. Give me a game that doesnāt have any on the market now. Youāre lying. Could it be better? Sure. But Iām having fun. Is that worth the price of the game? It is! Guess what? All games cost between 50 and 70 or upwards of 120$. Thatās where we are now. Thatās what shit costs. Tell me how much you have paid for CODā¦Iāll wait. Then tell me how many bugs,cheaters,disconnects and fuck ups it has had and still has. Play what you like because you like it. If you listen to every review full of hate and bile youāll never play anything. Iām having fun playin this game. Thatās all that matters.
Gaming is so much better when you operate on your own opinions rather than those of others. Iāve had so much fun playing this game and other online games when I stopped caring what the general consensus about each game is.
I am really enjoying this game. You can lose hours and hours just sailing the seas.
The Game is Not bad. Needs a Bit more stuff in it. If you enjoy it isnt that all what counts? I enjoy it too. So i dont care about all those negative nancies. Im just having my fun with this Game.
I'm glad you're having fun, some people are and that's good. The "hate" or, rather, complaints that people have about the game are unfortunately very real and justified.
Yeah this thread should be studied as an example of sunk cost fallacy or something. If people are enjoying it then thatās fine. Trying to counter all the complaints about it is a bit odd though. The most annoying argument Iāve seen for it is: āwell they asked for black flag without the assassins creed and now theyāre complaining that they got itā You can take the entire assassins creed element out of black flag and you would still have plenty of pirate gameplay that exceeds this by an embarrassing amount. Imagine pirates of the Caribbean but they never fought with swords.
Yup. The very real non-hater fact is this game will be in the gutter quickly if they donāt add more to their āAAAAā game
These threads are so lame to me and it happens every time with mediocre live service games. Like it's perfectly ok that it's ok. "Hate", or what we really mean criticism, is definitely warranted because this is in no way, shape, or form a $60 game. This is a $30 game and should have been priced as such. People wanting AC4 and getting a stripped down experience are right to be upset. It is a step down in more ways than one. People are right to question what exactly the devs have been to improve on the formula and it just doesnt really seem like much has changed at all. Worse, it doesn't capture the combat, doesn't capture the naval aspect, and doesn't carry the pirate experience. Just wears a mantle that doesn't belong to it. But that doesn't mean it's bad. What it does mean is that it's ok. The beta and free trial has shown me it can still be fun, but it's not a AAAA experience. Just priced and set to nickel and dime the consumers like one. A price cut should really be done. That or I'll just wait til it hits 50% off within 6 months like most Ubisoft titles do.
Anthem, Avengers, Godfall, Suicide Squad and so forth all sponsored this comment lol
>People wanting AC4 and getting a stripped down experience are right to be upset People that were expecting AC4 only have themselves to blame for expectations that were never based in fact. I clearly remember when AC4 came out and the community was begging for a version that was only the naval combat without the AC part and that's exactly what we got.
But that's not what we got? We got a *worse* version of Black Flag's naval combat. It's not unreasonable to expect a company that made Black Flag, make a pirate game that is at *least* on par with the elements it borrows from it. Especially at a ridiculous price tag of $70. Nobody even expected them to improve upon the formula, which honestly is what they should've done, because stagnating isn't good either. People set their expectations low and they still failed to match them.
Those people were a small minority if they existed at all. This game has a tiny, barren map, the exploration is super stale since thereās nothing to actually interact with at the islands and the story is absolute dirt. The ship combat is pretty good but they really should have built a game with that not a bunch of filler to justify a 70$ dumbed down sea of thieves.
If not, at least a price tag that fits. This is a $30/$40 game. At full price, they're competing with an eleven year old product that is not only cheaper, but provides a better experience.
Skull and Bones literally started as DLC for black flag. And yeah Black flag that was only pirate themed naval combat would have been amazing. But we didn't get anything even close to as good as that.
Real shit I've played all those to know. ESPECIALLY ANTHEM, W,e get these really passive aggressive threads of people saying hey. *I'm* having fun. Or the "haters" got this wrong. Or some lame ass thing like thing that. Or this game has "potential". Folks wanna come out the woodworks to defend their purchase from a studio that frankly half assed it and delivered a product that's not up to expectations.
Yall are like nickel back haters, only hating when its cool and come back later pretending to have been a stan the whole time š¤£
Skull and Bones isn't Nickelback. They're more like O-Town when Backstreet Boys is right there. They're ok if that's what you were into, but you're not beating I Want It That Way.
Can we bring to light Ubisoft wouldnāt let me name my vessel Duce Briggalow
Smooth name! I was able to getāgrab my dingyāthrough
I named my Dhow āRiding Dhowtyā
named mine "The Illicit Dhownut" š
Slight profanity detected. Couldnt name my ship Sea Satan but Sea Devil was fine lol
I called mine Phil Mckrackin
what is with the $70 hate? Every game cost that much these days. It isn't that this one is more. Just go to gamestop or amazon. Every new game cost exactly the same... It's bizarre that this became some kind of SnB issue.
Stop justifying the $70 price tag the ONLY game that was worth 70 bucks this generation would have been elden ring if it was priced that high. NO game has proven why they needed that price hike.Ā
I donāt want games to be $70. Iām not justifying it. Iām saying itās not a Skull and Bones issue when nearly EVERY game by a big company is priced at this point (the last Assassinās Creed game was priced at $39 btw). And Elden Ring has plenty of bugs (just google it) and would be considered āunpolishedā in many ways. It doesnāt mean it wasnāt a great game and a worthy GOTY candidate. Once again S&B has a free 8 hour trial. Play it if you wish. If you want more than 8 hours buy it or get Ubisoft+. Pretty simple.
You know that is just not true, right? Perhaps you mean every AAA game is that price tag. But the game doesn't have anywhere near that sort of polish. Seventy bucks for a polished game, like, say, recent god of war titles, are more deserving. When the game has 3 hours of delivery quests at the start, and objectively pointless on foot towns (why? Just make them menus, why do I have to sit through 2 loading screens to talk to the damn tailor?) and highly aggressive micro transactions, it shouldn't be anywhere near the pricetag it's at.
Tekken 8 - $69 Higwarts - $69 FF VII - $69 CoD MW3 - $69 Spiderman 2 - $69 Rise of the Ronin - $69 MLB the Show - $69 WWE 24 - $69 Suicide Squad - $69 games are priced pretty consistently. It's not based on your perceived level of polish. There is also an 8 hour free trial, which correct me if I am wrong, none of the above games have.
And yet, Helldivers 2, Deep Rock Galactic, Lethal Company, Dead by Daylight, are all games that are cheaper, and have less bugs, while having a much more popular review and general consensus on their games being more polished than Skull and Bones. Games like God of War, Spiderman 1 and 2, those are AAA titles that back it up. They're quality. They aren't ten years of development hell that lead to pointless loading screens in a town.
But wait skull and bones is the very firstā¦ QUADRUPLE A TITLEā¦ that makes it even worse
my biggest gripe are the people that try to compare S&B to ACBF feel free to bitch and moan about S&B in comparison to other live service multiplayer games but comparing it to a single player game is just dumb whats next? comparing The Division to The last of us because they both are 3rd person games?
Since S&B is literally created from Black Flag it's absolutely fair to compare the two when talking about gameplay or related elements. Not to do so is just silly like your odd division and the last of us comment. The Division didn't start it's life as a last of us DLC and shares nothing in common with that game outside of being 3rd person and having guns. Don't be disingenuous cmon?
and S&B shares nothing with ACBF outside of pirates and boats its irrelevant what the game started as, what matters is what it is
S&B was never meant to be Black Flag 2 it was always only inspired by certain elements of that game. Comparing any single player game to a live service game is ridiculous.
Literally started out as Black Flag DLC buddy so not sure what you're talking about. Comparing elements between the two games that are present in both (and in most cases almost identical in both just better usually in BF) is totally valid. Sorry. A naval ship sailing and combat game is still a naval ship sailing and combat game whether there's other players present or not my dude.
I don't see the game being overhated, it deserve most of its criticism because of the currently ridiculous price tag and AAAA comments from ubisoft in comparison to its current content value. Game is a lot of fun, game has a lot of fun thing to come, it's just weird that they priced a game that won't have the content its price suggest until a good 3 to 6 months in the future. Most people will have shelved the game by now because of having nothing else to do and not all of them will feel like coming back afterward. Hopefully the seasonal content is good enough to get the game on track for the future quickly as right now it is sadly taking a massive reputation hit because of the pricing issue.
Season 1 arrives in a week dude.
I love the game but I finished the scurlock story, got to cutthroat 1. But idk what to do now, I donāt understand how the bartender missions work. I also feel like Iām stuck between not knowing how to level my Snow past 8, but also getting wrecked by ships in the East Indies. Anyone have any tips? Iām in the middle of trying to get the Brigantine but running out of silver
The criticisms where they list all the things Black Flag had that this doesn't annoy the hell out of me. It's not supposed to be an Assassin's Creed game, so obviously it doesn't have those things. I wasn't even expecting to be able to walk around on islands. If you just want it to be the same as Black Flag, play Black Flag. Pretty simple. What they did is make an always-online game with a ton of customization and they made the ship battles a lot deeper. I enjoyed it and got through the beta, but didn't love it so much that I needed to buy it though. Ubisoft games get cheap so quickly anyways. I just don't think it's a valid criticism to say that Assassin's Creed has all these things and they're not in Skull and Bones, like no shit.
I paid over $100 for the steelbook version of this game from gamestop and have sunk over 70 hours in this game. Ive never enjoyed myself more in a game. I really hope they keep updating it and making it even better. I hate paying $70 for a video game and this game is the only one i can actually be okay with paying that much for it
Most? LoL
It's the most over hated game **he** has ever **enjoyed**.
I can 100% say you definitely need to pick up black flag. It's a lot of this game + actual boarding fights and the whole game is just top tier. I'm also enjoying the crap out of this game, a little salty I've missed out on 2 takeovers and 2 helm wager events because I randomly disconnected from the server each time. But I'm still absolutely enjoying it.
The price tag vs content is a hard sell for most. Coupled with the idiotic statement by Ubi's CEO has done the game no favors. I'm enjoying my time with the game thus far. Once you reach Kingpin a whole new game opens up, although that could also be contentious as some people won't consider the time investment worthwhile.
I don't hate this game, my disappointment mainly stems from the fact that the sailing in general feels outdated compared to a game from 10+ years ago. I don't even mind the lack of land functionality that much as I genuinely enjoy sailing. I agree that it's over-hated but I also think this game suffers from maaaaaaaaany issues that desperately need to be resolved and for adjustments to be made to make the gameplay overall more smooth. It's fun, I just want it to become what it's capable of being.
I honestly think the game is over defended lol If people complained and the response was "yeah but I'm still having fun" there'd be far less nonsense in the sub. Instead we have posts like these who claim the game is being unfairly criticised, being dismissive of people's genuine comments and concerns
I understand both sides to be honest. Despite comparing the game to Black Flag myself, it is a little annoying to see everyone basically demanding that to happen. This game is worthy of valid criticism just like any other, but also it's been greatly dunked on for actions of a CEO who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and the development hell it's gone through. I think we need both types of posts within moderation and in a way, we need to acknowledge both sides of the table. One side clearly very much enjoys it, one side doesn't and wants it to be better. We all want this game to succeed, but that won't happen if we're too busy badgering or worshipping every detail. Still though, I appreciate your input and it was nice to take a step back and think more on the comments and posts overall from your viewpoint. I hope you have a wonderful day btw!
I agree with pretty much everything you said lol I'm not trying to tell people not to enjoy the game or anything like that, just be open to criticism, and be open to people enjoying something you don't. Liking a bad game doesn't make you an idiot. People have their preferences, everybody's looking for something. A lot of people are all or nothing. "I like this game so it's a good game." Or "I hate this game so it's a bad game". Liking a bad game or hating a good game is seen as a crazy take. Look at this user I tried to have a conversation with in this post, for example... https://www.reddit.com/r/SkullAndBonesGame/s/GyCdBK9r36 Sorry for venting out a little bit there lol You have a lovely day too, now :)
Criticism is not inherently bad and can boost something to greater heights. Everything needs a critical eye once in a while and games are no exception. Without criticism things go into stagnation which eventually leads to them dying off. Also that's incredibly rude, being told your opinion is idiotic and that you have a personality disorder for simply having a well regulated stance on a subject is just telling of that poster's personality and how they treat others. We get no where by badgering eachother or demanding one side be victorious over the other. Insert the fairly typical response of, 'I'm sure they're fun at parties'. And no worries on the venting lmao, it was interesting to see just how seriously people take a game as simple as this or the simple notion of constructive and healthy criticism being given. Whether to the game itself or the community.
That was a very nicely put comment and thank you for the kind words, as well. It's nice to know I'm not actually crazy lol It was lovely chatting with you
Criticism isnāt hate. Ubisoft selling this game as a quadruple A game is just bonkers for what it is. That being said, I hope everyone else is enjoying the game
You're right, criticism isn't hate except there's been very little actual criticism and an abundance of hate.
Your personal definitions of hate and criticism aren't in the dictionary my dude sorry.
There is some legitimate criticism but most negative comments you see on here are along the lines of "it's trash", "dumpster fire", "you're an idiot for paying for this garbage", etc.... Those kind of comments are pure hate.
Ubisoft is NOT selling this game as Quadruple AAAA.. the media (and players) are taking a quote out of context and mocking that quote acting as if Ubi is selling it as a AAAA game because the CEO mentioned that's what it cost to make. THe $70 price tag is Ubi's fairly standard rate for their AAA games at launch (Ubi has always charged... more than others for their products). No marketing or hype generated by Ubi is claimin git's AAAA, only the boneheaded CEO answering investor questions about price point and the media pushing that because... well.. he deserves to be lampooned for that statement.
You literally contradicted your own comment you realize?
Some people, prominent YTs included have been hating since S&Bs inception. They game has changed drastically since its first reveal as arena combat, closer to World of Warships, than its current iteration. Itās been destroyed & restarted several times it appears by the ārevolving doorā creative directors. So I consider its current form to be the work of 5/6 years, not 10. It doesnāt help with Ubi exec comments. I think one factor is that the nature of gaming has been changed, largely in part by YT and the need for min/maxing & quest for the perfect build. This immediately turns any game into a chore; a pursuit to find & use the best gear ASAP (To be āthe firstā) in the need for content creation. That mindset, I find sucks the fun out. It feels as though playing a game is now a hustle unto itself. Right now, Iām playing, loving it. My ship is anchored up just listening to the various battles going on in all directions. People crying out for an endless feed of content, yet they want all the content right now. Itās been out a week or so(officially) & there are those who have pumped 100+ hours already(judging by various posts) & yet moaning that there is nothing to do. If you you want to put a price breakdown on that as a metric to measure fun per hour(a friend got me doing this), they use Ā£1 per hour as if they received good value-for-money. Iām not saying the game doesnāt have flaws, it does. But for reason, S&B has garnered so much more hate pre & post launch, than other games which vastly over promised & under delivered, with the obvious examples being No Mans Sky & CP2077, not to mention Starfield. It took NMS & CP2077 a year+ to become what they were promised to be at launch, but their launch issues are either being given a free pass or ignored because of the games they have become.
If you go for the Ā£1 per hour of fun, problem is that most of the hours you currently spend in S&B is to play the delivery driver , not really what i'd call "fun". the sailing is a lot of fun, the game IS a lot of fun, but the current end game suck all the fun out of the game.
Season 1 hasn't even started so I feel like trying to judge the game right now without knowing what's coming isn't exactly fair. It's a bit too early to judge the endgame right now.
So the game as it is, isn't complete? You need a season to make the game? They are reviewing what was launched. People are saying they are having fun with what was launched. You are saying, people should wait until ~~S1, S2, S3, S4, Year 1,~~ Year 2 to review what they paid for? Endgame is endgame right now. What people paid for. The fact that in 3-9 months we may have a way not to have to do delivery runs, and this may or may not ship. The game shipped, and you review what shipped. Things may be better in Season 1, may be worse!
Then it's a bit too early to sell the game full price when the content doesn't drop until 2 weeks after launch, is it not ? It's a genuine question, I'm not here to argue, i'm curious about your opinion on the matter. For me, I consider that I should get the value of my spending available at launch, The game and its roadmap clearly show that 70ā¬ is nothing for what is to come in a 6months time, but I don't buy the game for 6 months in the future, I buy it for today, do I make sense ?
I wouldn't say overhated. Disappointed is more accurate. There's a lot of missed opportunities and potential.
Tbh the beginning is especially slow and tedious, which is as far as most reviewers get. I wasn't loving it but pushed through, and now I'm having a good time I will say, the on-foot gameplay is so trash it's amazing. Just have the settlements/ports be menus, there's no reason to be wandering around at one pace with no ability to jump/climb/interact beyond cutscenes. And the camera angle sucks, makes it tough to navigate on foot
It's funny how many vehicle based games mess this up. There's a desire to make an avatar then use the avatar so they come up with some form of out of vehicle capabilities so you can use your avatar but it's always "tacked on". I love having an avatar to dress up and outfits etc. It's fine. But I don't necessarily need a wander around a base feel per say. The "hunt the foozle" treasure chest find in outposts doesn't add much to the game play in its current form. It is a shame there's no off-ship combat of any kind and perhaps if this variant of the game had more than the 2 years it did in the oven, we'd have something there but it's not meant to be here.
Iām at the endgame and I havenāt even finished the East Indies story line. Iām having fun doing it all.
Played the full 8 hour trial and had a lot of fun. I played Black Flag and loved it, and, while this is certainly a much different game, it is scratching a different itch that I also enjoy. Definitely donāt think itās worth anywhere near $70, tho. Iāll pick it up when it inevitably drops below $40.
Same here Iām addicted, never like that the last 2 years
I detached myself from all the hate being thrown at the game and just went into it with no expectations. I have really enjoyed it so far. There are some things I wish it had, of course, but it hasn't diminished my fun so far.
No no NO!. You can't be pleased with the game! It's a self claimed AAAA game at 70$! YOU HAVE TO BE DISPLEASED! You simply must be angry and revolting! Why are you HAPPY and having FUN! STOP IT! STOP HAVING FUN YOU INCEL! ITS SUCH A SHITTY HORRIBLE GAME THAT NO ONE CAN ENJOY!
We can have fun and enjoy the game but still think it's a disappointment in a lot of aspects. All you're doing here is making the people who defend the game look like assholes.
I want swords and pistols and real ship to ship boarding! Other than that, I'm having fun.
This would make the game even better. I just feel like it's a bit hollow after a while. Love the game, but could be a lot more enjoyable if I were able to go aboard an enwmy ship and slash mfers up lol
I honestly would hate to have AC melee combat in this game, it would be so bad in PvP
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It is a pirate ship game, not a pirate game. But it is absolutely filled to The brink with pirate stuff.
I agree completely. Mostly it was just some dumb P.R. flak's comments that invited the approbation of the entire world with that 'Quadruple-A' crap. I think most of the criticism is founded in unrealistic expectations, anyone can come up with some imaginary multiplayer game which has 100% feature-parity with a single-player game, but it's a completely different affair to actually build it. The whole **TEN YEARS** bit is also a critique grounded in ignorance and unrealistic expectations. No, Ubisoft did not spend all ten years making this one game. They spent ten years building a game studio *from the ground up*, and this is the first title they've created. Obviously it's still very rough around the edges, and hopefully with some patches and content drops, it should be good fun for a while, I've already got my $70 worth from it.
The fact that the game would have been cancelled long ago if Ubisoft wasn't under contract to finish and deliver it says all you need to know about the games development tbh.
I hate that a game relies on hours played instead of skill and cunning. The point you make about it sounds terrible. Same reason division sucks so bad.
Have you reached the endgame?
Are you really trying to convince the dude to not enjoy the game?
Dude, i asked him if he reached the endgame to check if he is still leveling with the story or farming 8s to check whats his base of opinion..chill fanboy.
Yeah I do t get it. The amount of hours you put in including leveling, fucking around etc. is worth the ā¬80 on time alone. And then they moan about being bored after all that time spent.
Exactly they play for 40 hours straight and then complain lmao
It really isn't though. There's games out there with practically thousands of hrs worth of fun due to their freedom, choices presented, different storylines etc. Compare rdr2 to S&B then tell me its still worth that price. Its a fun game at its core, but it will get old very quick with the lack of freedom it currently has. People want games to live out fantasies and escape bullshit in reality. Without immersion the entire thing feels empty after some time, just a shallow shell of what it could be. I mean not even being able to explore the massive islands or walk around your ship? Tons of rum/liquor but I can't drink it. Can't pull out a sword and gut someone when they blatantly disrespect me?
I have
What are you doing besides 8-farming?
When I get bored of farming, I just sail around blasting random shit, leveling up all of my other ships to get ready for the fleet management content.
Is this confirmed or why do people keep saying this will come?
Fleet management is a feature planned for season 2. What it actually entails is entirely unclear as yet.
Assuming they make it to season 2... I'm starting to get major "Marvel Avengers" game vibes from this....
Marvel Avengers or Anthem vibes.
Their roadmap says it is coming in season 2, but that is subject to change, obviously.
Oh Nice, can you tell me where i can find the roadmap? š
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=sbvVNDtRQNdDjQp9&v=x2V6UrJg0p8&feature=youtu.be
Do we know if our own ships will be used for fleet management ? I honestly doubt so. Crafting a heck ton of Brigantines will be easy by then, there will be no challenge.
I'm not sure! If they are, my fleet is going to be an absolute brick shithouse!
Trying to focus more on events, ghost ships and monsters. 8 farming is a large part of my gameplay at the moment, but Iām set on obtaining the best stuff
The thing is you can't get the best stuff. The ghostship and sea monster doesn't drop the second material needed to craft the Oroboros hull or Blue Specter.
blue specter (not the blueprint though) can be obtaine by killing the ghostship though, quiet a bunch of people are already running it..... i did not have luck so far, but not farming extensively for it... it drops when it drops.....
Iām aware, but Iād like to work towards it, so once we can obtain it, Iāll be able to get it. I can understand that endgame can be boring, and if all that progress resets after 90 days, Iāll be furious, but I enjoy the grind, I like seeing my number go up on the leaderboard
It will be a fresh start for each season, but if you stockpile enough you can make tons from the start of the next season with all the upgrades you'd be able to do
Yeah..thats the point. For a AAAA game, sailing between settlements every 5h is just not enough. If they would have sold it for 40ā¬ and not "AAAA", the hate wouldn't be that intense.
The term AAAA is just to mean it cost a lot of money to make, it's not supposed to mean it's the best game ever made. It's a misconception a lot of people have that more As mean better game. Now I do agree that right now 70$ is too much for the game, but you can also just sub 1 month with Ubisoft+, do the content and unsub, then come back once there's more content or when it will inevitably be on sales.
Ur right, the game is overpriced, and 3 of my friends would have bought the game if it was $30. But I donāt really know what game is āworthā $70
Well, not this one for sure ! But many game deserve their price tag, from ubisoft, and a kinda game as a service style AC valhalla was worthy of its full price for exemple. S&B is really strange as they monetize it like a F2P game with pass and cash shop while selling it at full price. Problem is most game as a service are either free to play or have a low price of entry, look at dead by daylight, fortnite, overwatch, conan exiles and such for exemple, and another major difference, they are built around "make your own fun" mindset, S&B does not have that in game in its current state, PvP is shallow and bland, there's no meaningful repeatable PvP content to do. Basically, your friends are right to want it at a lower price tag and i personally put my money where my mouth is and after 2 close beta, open beta and preordering the game in hope launch would be more than what we knew it would be, I refunded it and will wait for it to drop in price according to it's current gameplay value. I'll have plenty of time to wait with Dragon dogma 2 being out next month anyway xD
Baldurs gate 3 at that price tag is worth it, game that was complete at launch. On top of my head that i can remember - Elden ring (got 300 hours out of it) even though it was cheaper...
I wouldnāt pay $10 for BG3. Just not my type of game, but I donāt bash the game because of it.
Well, yeah, cause BG3 is a good game, priced accordingly to its content xD
But there's a difference. It's perfectly fine if it's not your type of game, that's a subjective opinion, a matter of taste. But things like quality (polish, lack of bugs, voice acting, etc) and quantity (how many hours can you play, how many different systems there are, replayability, etc) are things that are more or less objectively measurable. The worth of a game (or any other thing really) usually consists of all those factors. If somebody asks "what game is worth 70 bucks" then I will first think of quality and quantity of game content, and then consider their personal taste to give them a proper answer. But I couldn't ignore the quality and quantity. In a situation where somebody enjoys the type of game that is BG3, the game is clearly worth 70 dollars based on the other factors. But despite the fun factor, SaB is not. Which does not mean people shouldn't or can't enjoy it. Just means it's hard to say it's worth $70.
I think a lot of people want or need more constant interaction and button clicking to stay focused on a game. And this one won't do it for them as you do spend decent time sailing. If you're early game and trying to do all the quests you encounter this can escalate quickly and isn't very rewarding imo. I started enjoying it more when I ignored most quests and just focused on ship building and materials needed to see more tangible results.
Itās a good game for sure. But still deserves the hate itās gets. They gave themselves all the time in the world and still released a janky mess. But if they step up. It could be great
I don't think it's really fair to boil people's black flag comparisons down to them wanting it to be the same game. I didn't expect any of the on foot gameplay from Assassins Creed... but I am still disappointed in every feature or system that those two games do share where they somehow managed to do it WORSE than the 10 year old game it's based on. :/
that and them taking inspiration from Sea of thieves with the Sea monster fight, yet they didn't take the Treasure map system, which would have been more entertaining than "run around until the lord send you a beam of light to tell you where to press a button" or even the simple "choose what shanty them sailor will be singing" because I swear to god if I hear bully in the alley ONE MORE TIME when i'm skiping to hear something new.... xD Game is fine without on foot fighting, but its just severely lacking on the quality of life department.
I really thoroughly enjoyed the treasure hunting in SoT. Itās one of the only things, besides sailing, that I liked. I wish they had copied it. š
Yeah, i'm not sure it would have been hard to implement to, they don't need the random worms either, just... the digging bit and searching with the map and landmarks of the area. The game is missing plenty of those little things to not break the immersion, right now we have too many loading screen and cutscenes taking you out of the pirate fun and sailing fantasy. The game is solid and a lot of fun despite all that which is making me yearn for what could be if they didn't go for "loading" and "cutscene" route every actions we take and instead made it more hands or seamless. The world somehow feel open but then you realise you have to stop and go into all those close pocket on the regular with the outpost, or cutscenes for everything.
Literally this so much.
Thing is they never promised 'more of Black Flag' - they promised more of Black Flag's naval combat. It's been years since they showed early builds of the game, and on-foot combat was never on the table. So while opinions on games are all subjective and valid, the criticism for lack of on-foot combat is as valid as complaining that Forza doesn't let you build a house and furnish it, or that Battlefield and Modern Warfare don't have an economic simulation and trade routes on the map.
But the ship combat, sailing and general mechanics in black flag were better 11 years ago. So what does that say about skull and bones?
Hey look another āthis game is definitely goodā reminder post.
As soon as they said "quadruple A game" they got exactly what they deserved. I mean they took a game from a decade ago, stripped it of all the fun stuff then sold it for $70. Deserves every ounce of hate it gets.
I spent 110$, and I'm satisfied for now. Im waiting on season 1 and what that'll bring and so on. I didn't want Black Flag 2 personally. Half the ppl wanted BF 2 the other half wanted something new. In the end can't please everyone. And in this day and age ppl will cry just to cry.
>Is it worth $70? Probably not, but what game is? This sentence physically hurts to read. We should demand better from AAA studios and publishers...
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It's got some flaws for sure, but when dickheads like Bellular or whatever his name is punch out videos with blatant misinformation like 'you can just buy endgame currency from the store' it's going to keep circulating.
Same here, I love it. Was not going to buy it until reviews dropped, so that was that until I saw the 8 hour trial. Killed the 8 hours and bought it. I get why some might hate it but that's not me. Yes it's a bit messy with no story but the actual time on the high seas is fun.
Yep. Iāve spent the week watching my favorite content creators go āthis is the worst game of the entire year, but i havenāt tried it,ā and lose a bit of my respect for carrying an opinion just cause itās meta
I had been waiting for several years for this game. I was anticipating a black flag ac type action game with an open world. A new ip for Ubisoft. I love Valhalla and Odyssey.I was disappointed when I found out a month or so ago that it would be a live service ship only game. However I am really enjoying it for what it is. It has its faults but it's still really fun
This and Suicide Squad are both getting hated on for no real good reason
Both games are being "hated" on for very valid and real reasons.
Most say to be worth a price of $70 they have to be better than any other game in some point. But tbh, most games aren't and no game has to be. Sure it's always good when a game is/does, but almost everytime a dev tries something different, most hate on it saying they should stick to what they did previously and best. But at the same time those exact peoples are the ones complaining that we get the same stuff every year... make it make sense... you can't. Needless to say however that a game's worth is always a matter of subjective opinion, no set price tag will and can please everyone, but it has to be priced for it to be able to sell. And mostly the pricing doesn't revolve around what or how much content there is (how some say it should be). It's always based on production and that value, how much has been put into the project, how many people worked on it, how much time and effort was put into it, even if it's not much that came out of it. That's not always the devs fault. Either way, it has the 3 core pillars a game needs to have to be at least considered full price, when it comes from a AAA-Dev Studio. Story, Gameplay, Graphics/Performance. And Skull & Bones comes from a AAA-Dev, so it's expected full price anyway. But it also has a decent story, it's not great by any means, but gets the job done and is set around 30 hours to complete. Gameplay, what the core concept of this game is and how well this mechanic is done, i'd say that is good as well. It's not great either, but also gets the job done and is fun. And lastly Graphics/Performance, i can't see any graphical flaws whatsoever and the performance is great too. So in terms of that the game is pretty solid. So to close this off, is it worth $70? Objectively you can say, yes it is. However since someones personal worth is based on their subjective opinion, the question should be, is it worth $70 to you? And for that answer, you always have to ask that yourself. i paid for the Premium Edition and have no regrets in spending that money. I'm having fun with the game and always had anytime i got to play and test it prior to its release. Am i sponsored by Ubisoft for saying this? No i'm not. But Ubi still is one of my most loved devs if not the most loved. But even i have games from them i didn't like at all, like AC Odyssey for example. So you can like it or not, but there is no need for toxic hate towards it or other games, unless there is a valid reason, like it was for No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk.
It's really weird how many posts try to rationalize how this game isn't bad. It's almost like the goobers have to tell people that because they like this trash, it must not be trash. Guess what? You objectively like shit. Everyone isn't wrong, you are wrong. Half baked garbage isn't my standard. If it's yours, that's your business. You aren't convincing anyone that this game is good.
Tell us your opinion on Starfield. lmao
Exceptionally mediocre, and heavily watered down by extremely generic content that acts as a major counter to the things the game (and studio that made it) does best. It's like they took a quarter of Skyrim, a quarter of Fallout, and all the worst parts of No Man's Sky, then blended them together.. and thought what came out would somehow be better for it. Then, to top it off.. they made the whole thing have a new game plus mode that basically makes you not care about anything.. which is the opposite of what this genre of game should be doing. All told, it had problems. Major problems.
Have fun with your 60$ mobile game feedback loop. Game is janky as fuck and the feedback loop is just grinding to unlock the next grind. I wanted to be a pirate, not whatever the fuck this is.
A lot of games with many years of development are worth $70 like Baldurs Gate 3 and even the remastered Assassin's Creed Black flag will be worth $70. This is a terrible argument, "What game is worth this much?" There are more games that are worth that much than aren't. What makes it worse is it a full price game with aggressive microtransactions. I think it deserves all the hate it gets, it is a cut-and-paste asset flip that with terrible bugs like Helm Death marks.
Nah this game ass and is the final straw for me, personally Iām tossing Ubisoft in the āneeds to be shutdown by government for being financially malicious to the publicā along with EA.
I just feel bad for some of yall for dropping $70 on this pig in a dress
I enjoyed the game to point I finished with main story. But now that I cant continue with progress I feel like this game is really worst experience for long time. Ubisoft taking weeks to fix problem that was reported in beta that breaks the game and people cant unlock or advance with helm quests shows how much they value the customers..
Yeah, I have no idea how so many of those bugs ended up in the full release, I reported some 3 freakin' beta ago, an open beta and 2 close beta and none of those i was the first to find them, of course, if feel like everything i reported was still there the next beta and still is at full release .
As the world's first AAAA title people were just expecting more. Future AAAA games will now probably slack off as the bar has been set. Who knows how AAA games will be now. Probably like current AA.
Game isn't bad at all.
I'll hate on this game all day simply because of the price tag. Game is fun by itself. Or, at least the beta was.
I felt this about Suicide Squad. There doesn't seem to be a place for middle of the road games anymore. Everything is either the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.