Alternative, the 2nd version is fierce deity and a hidden final smash is basically majora link somehow cloning himself, and play in a band with deku, Rito and Goron link.
Instead of being sent to space using last Ridley alt would send you to Ridley’s frigate where you are sent into the bossfight room of zero mission where you see Mecha Ridley who blasts you into/through one of the walls
I can only think of two versions that don’t drastically change the final smash.
Young Link: Goes Fierce Deity and it remains the same
Robin: Pair Up, but with Morgan instead of Chrom
Give Richter HYDRO STORM in some way.
Have some circumstance for Pyra/Mythra where, say if each of them gets a KO during the match, they use "Coffee with Milk."
Considering they just straight up added Seven to Shulk's final smash in Ultimate, I really don't think they give a shit about Xenoblade spoilers. And, to be honest, Mythra's entire existence is a spoiler that happens more than a few hours into the game.
Killer Wail 5.1 for Inkling. The whole thing about Cloud's Omnislashes is that it's the same thing, but just a different animation. So you could do the same thing for the killer wail, just make it 5 smaller ones but make it have the same hitbox.
The Princess Cannon would also be cool
I think that still doesn’t hit the spot for the most climactic moments…
For the most over-the-top, game-representing final smash…
he should summon [Mara](https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Mara) and use Hell Thrust instead
(hell thrust and signature moves are tooootally in persona 5)
Small one, i think it could’ve been cool if maybe using AOA with Joker had a 50% chance to instead trigger an All out in the style of Strikers, where they stylistically are simmilar but there’s no splash screen and instead the character models directly posing
Tho it should always play the normal one if it would result in the unique victory screen!
Only thing I'd add for Joker Final Smash is include an attack sequence that includes Akechi, Sumi and to fill it out, Mona. Now EVERYONE in the PT is part of Jokers final smash
You’d have to completely overhaul Bowser Jar’s final smash to let the Koopalings do something different but still have the same hit boxes and effect. Which should’ve been the case from jump. How are you gonna do something as cool as give each alt a unique 3D model, and then give that character a final smash that very clearly is only associated with 1 of the 8 characters represented?
Animation wise
Captain falcon: jumps out of blue falcon and lands a blue lightning falcon punch
Ike: aether animation from fe engage
Sora: trinity limit
Megaman: channels through different special weapons while attacking and finishes off with a shoryuken
Marth: lodestar rush from fire emblem engage
Link: lightning arrow
If they gave Samus her Phazon Suit color scheme again, maybe they could have the activation of the FS involve the Metroid Prime creating a pool of Phazon underneath her as she fire the beam, turning it into a Phazon beam?
Or for something a bit more involved, on the Mecha Ridley skin, they change it so that instead of being knocked onto Samus' ship and getting blasted, they get slammed into the wall of the tunnel from Metroid Prime 3 and Ridley drags them down along it, ending with a final fling into the abyss, resulting in either the opponent getting executed or simply bounced off the stage if they survive.
Peach could reference peach showtime >!and become radiant peach and blast everyone.!<
MegaMan could reference mvc and become hyper MegaMan and fire a giant laser at everyone.
Sonic >!goes super sonic 2 and beats the crap out of one unlucky foe!<
The Miis.
Give them various options for final smashes. For example, gunner has a from 1 side beam currently. For optional final smashes, give them a top/background beam like lucario or zero suit and an expensive final smash that hits like hero's kamikaze minus killing you.
Much like how Cloud has different final Smashes based on what skin he uses I want to do the same thing with Sora but cranked up to 11.
KH1/Timeless River- Donald and Goofy appear by his side and they rush forward and do the Trinity Limit
KH2/Valor- Riku appears by his Side and they do the Session Limit
KHDDD/Wisdom- King Mickey appears and they do the Faith Limit
KH3/Ultimate- Kairi appears and they do the One Heart Limit
Is it a stupid amount of extra work, yes, do I want it anyway, absolutely
Also give Young Link A Fierce Deity Mask Final Smash ffs
Imo Sonic's whole final smash should be changed into Super Sonic doing a phantom rush and finishing with a grand slam, but either way >!Super Sonic 2 should be a nice alternative!<
Since Metroid Dread came out, I want to see a final smash where Samus grabs the target, brings them through a door into an abandoned facility, jumps away, and then the target gets face-stabbed by the E.M.M.I.
You have to consider the fact that there has to be some kind of trigger-alt. For Cloud, it’s because he’s in an Advent Children alt, therefore he uses his Advent Children Omnislash. So therefore, the only characters that can have different final smashes are ones that have significant model differences that aren’t just a noncanon recolor. This includes:
Ice Mario, Builder Mario, Wedding Mario, Of The Wild Armor Link, Samus’ Fusion Suit, Fire Luigi (not sure how that’d work with his current FS), Dark Meta Knight, Galactica Knight, Plumber Wario, Radiant Dawn Ike, probably some of Sonic’s alts, Alph, Villager, IDK about Mega Man but I’m sure he has some kind of alts based on powers from his series- however it would be hard to incorporate them into his group-attack with the other mega men, Male Wii Fit Trainer, Wireframe Little Mac, the Koopalings, Bayonetta 1 Bayo, the different Inklings, Winter Isabelle (not much to change though- however the town hall in New Leaf does have variants…), the different colors of Piranha Plant, Joker’s school alt, the different Heroes, Shirtless Sephiroth (idk what else he can really do- he’s already shirtless in his final smash…), Suit Kazuya, and pretty much all of the Sora alts.
I totally missed some alt colors (and didn’t list most gender differences), but these are pretty much all the possible alts that can have different final smashes.
My personal contribution to this idea is that instead of Fireballs, Builder Mario could potentially fire different Mario Maker elements (with a Fire Bar finishing it off to preserve the fire trail after the final smash). The alt based on Ice Mario could fire big ice balls and freeze over the ground.
Male Wii Fit trainer could potentially change the silhouettes in the final smash? I’m pretty sure all of them are based on female wii fit trainer.
Villager could have their houses be different colored roofs and stuff depending on the alt. I think this one makes the most sense.
Someone else already said it but I’m down for the idea of Bayonetta 2 Bayo contracting a different demon for her final smash since Gammorah goes AWOL. Only issue is that would make her current final smash the “secret” one since Bayonetta 2 bayo is the odd numbered alts- which would be weird…
Someone has the idea that for the Koopalings, they fire Bullet Bills streaming across the screen, leaving behind smoke in place of where Bowser Jr.’s paint would be. Amazing idea.
I just want Fierce Diety for young link man
Alternative, the 2nd version is fierce deity and a hidden final smash is basically majora link somehow cloning himself, and play in a band with deku, Rito and Goron link.
Rhythm game final smash like dk in brawl
Battle of the bands except it's the DK crew vs Majora Link Clones.
Same.
THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING
Instead of being sent to space using last Ridley alt would send you to Ridley’s frigate where you are sent into the bossfight room of zero mission where you see Mecha Ridley who blasts you into/through one of the walls
I can only think of two versions that don’t drastically change the final smash. Young Link: Goes Fierce Deity and it remains the same Robin: Pair Up, but with Morgan instead of Chrom
Robin change is overdue https://preview.redd.it/tc172t3xpayc1.jpeg?width=646&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec984c6f508e452f69d0011d3a311b85d97d5c9a
I think it’s fine if chrom stays but changes if he’s fighting chrom, also I laugh every time i see this interaction
Swap Chrom out for Morgan if Robin is fighting Chrom.
Lmao the rally spectrum makes this really funny
Give Richter HYDRO STORM in some way. Have some circumstance for Pyra/Mythra where, say if each of them gets a KO during the match, they use "Coffee with Milk."
coffee with milk feels like they wanted to avoid spoilers but at the same time they just decided to straight up add it as a spirit so idk LOL
Considering they just straight up added Seven to Shulk's final smash in Ultimate, I really don't think they give a shit about Xenoblade spoilers. And, to be honest, Mythra's entire existence is a spoiler that happens more than a few hours into the game.
Mythra was literally spoiled before the game even came out lol, she was in trailers and promotional material.
Killer Wail 5.1 for Inkling. The whole thing about Cloud's Omnislashes is that it's the same thing, but just a different animation. So you could do the same thing for the killer wail, just make it 5 smaller ones but make it have the same hitbox. The Princess Cannon would also be cool
Six smaller ones, actually.
Oh whoops, my bad
Have bayonetta use a different demon
Gomorrah for bayo 1, lagolas for bayo 2
Alph uses the ss drake instead of the dolphin ship
Yes
Joker gets his final “Begone” shot
Or "Checkmate" from Royal
I think that still doesn’t hit the spot for the most climactic moments… For the most over-the-top, game-representing final smash… he should summon [Mara](https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Mara) and use Hell Thrust instead (hell thrust and signature moves are tooootally in persona 5)
kirby's final cutter can pull from any of the swords in return to dreamland
Exact same odds as the ones from return though
Due to Fire Emblem Engage; Marth can get Lodestar Rush and Robin can get Giga Levin Sword
Small one, i think it could’ve been cool if maybe using AOA with Joker had a 50% chance to instead trigger an All out in the style of Strikers, where they stylistically are simmilar but there’s no splash screen and instead the character models directly posing Tho it should always play the normal one if it would result in the unique victory screen!
Or hear me out, getting the other thieves aoa art
Only thing is how to reasonably, joker is the one initiating it But there could be a low rng chance for Futabas
Eh, I feel like that one would be a little weird for people who haven’t played persona 5
true
Only thing I'd add for Joker Final Smash is include an attack sequence that includes Akechi, Sumi and to fill it out, Mona. Now EVERYONE in the PT is part of Jokers final smash
Or just a random showtime attack
On the different variants of momentos you get the all out attack screen from p4 and p3 with the characters.
Any ideas for the koopalings
You’d have to completely overhaul Bowser Jar’s final smash to let the Koopalings do something different but still have the same hit boxes and effect. Which should’ve been the case from jump. How are you gonna do something as cool as give each alt a unique 3D model, and then give that character a final smash that very clearly is only associated with 1 of the 8 characters represented?
How about the airships from new super Mario Bros u
Make the non-jr koopalings have their castle's shoot bullet bills that leave smoke similar to the paint on the screen
Just makw so Kirby has the other sword "skins" from the Ultra sword like in RTDL I Need
Agreed also mudkip 👍
if u pick alt 6 falco ur final smash range will decrease by 0.1
Insted of shulk's Xenoblade 1 party members it's the party from future redeem that attacks you finishing with Shulk and Nikol's combo
Snake should have had Metal Gear REX as his Final Smash. MGS4 exists, and a missile strike feels more like Big Boss's thing
Animation wise Captain falcon: jumps out of blue falcon and lands a blue lightning falcon punch Ike: aether animation from fe engage Sora: trinity limit Megaman: channels through different special weapons while attacking and finishes off with a shoryuken Marth: lodestar rush from fire emblem engage Link: lightning arrow
Pyra/Mythra would probably be >!turning into Pneuma!<
Honestly why isn’t it
I guess since they both have their own big move and they wanted to use both
We’ve already built a house and the Town Hall, maybe we’ll add in that one museum to the construction list, as a change of pace
super adaptor
If they gave Samus her Phazon Suit color scheme again, maybe they could have the activation of the FS involve the Metroid Prime creating a pool of Phazon underneath her as she fire the beam, turning it into a Phazon beam? Or for something a bit more involved, on the Mecha Ridley skin, they change it so that instead of being knocked onto Samus' ship and getting blasted, they get slammed into the wall of the tunnel from Metroid Prime 3 and Ridley drags them down along it, ending with a final fling into the abyss, resulting in either the opponent getting executed or simply bounced off the stage if they survive.
Peach could reference peach showtime >!and become radiant peach and blast everyone.!< MegaMan could reference mvc and become hyper MegaMan and fire a giant laser at everyone. Sonic >!goes super sonic 2 and beats the crap out of one unlucky foe!<
Mario and a super start or cat suit or smth
The inklings have different specials depending on gender, with the exception of agent 3. girl: Killer wail boy: inkstirke 3: Kraken.
Sonic goes Dark Sonic with his black costume and Hyper with his costume that gives him Silver’s wristband things.
Tails and knux join sonic's final smash
If you’re playing with the Blood Falcon alt, final smash summons the Blood Hawk instead of the Blue Falcon.
Give suit kazuya his new rage art from Tekken 8
The Miis. Give them various options for final smashes. For example, gunner has a from 1 side beam currently. For optional final smashes, give them a top/background beam like lucario or zero suit and an expensive final smash that hits like hero's kamikaze minus killing you.
Much like how Cloud has different final Smashes based on what skin he uses I want to do the same thing with Sora but cranked up to 11. KH1/Timeless River- Donald and Goofy appear by his side and they rush forward and do the Trinity Limit KH2/Valor- Riku appears by his Side and they do the Session Limit KHDDD/Wisdom- King Mickey appears and they do the Faith Limit KH3/Ultimate- Kairi appears and they do the One Heart Limit Is it a stupid amount of extra work, yes, do I want it anyway, absolutely Also give Young Link A Fierce Deity Mask Final Smash ffs
imagine if mario's final smash turned into pills
I think for half of mewtwo’s alts he should turn into mega mewtwo x and do focus blast (it does the same thing)
Imo Sonic's whole final smash should be changed into Super Sonic doing a phantom rush and finishing with a grand slam, but either way >!Super Sonic 2 should be a nice alternative!<
Give little mac a McDonald's ad
Since Metroid Dread came out, I want to see a final smash where Samus grabs the target, brings them through a door into an abandoned facility, jumps away, and then the target gets face-stabbed by the E.M.M.I.
I didn’t even know there was a difference cause I always use his advent children outfit (googled it after seeing this thread)
Kirby eighth alt replaces ultra sword with mega knight sword
For mario, Have a small chance that he would launch giant iceballs instead of fire and freeze them
Give kirby all 4 super abilityes
Bowser becomes Fury Bowser
Just make alph use the ss drake
The male Pokémon Trainer has Charizard Mega Evolve into Mega Charizard X while the female trainer has Mega Charizard Y
You have to consider the fact that there has to be some kind of trigger-alt. For Cloud, it’s because he’s in an Advent Children alt, therefore he uses his Advent Children Omnislash. So therefore, the only characters that can have different final smashes are ones that have significant model differences that aren’t just a noncanon recolor. This includes: Ice Mario, Builder Mario, Wedding Mario, Of The Wild Armor Link, Samus’ Fusion Suit, Fire Luigi (not sure how that’d work with his current FS), Dark Meta Knight, Galactica Knight, Plumber Wario, Radiant Dawn Ike, probably some of Sonic’s alts, Alph, Villager, IDK about Mega Man but I’m sure he has some kind of alts based on powers from his series- however it would be hard to incorporate them into his group-attack with the other mega men, Male Wii Fit Trainer, Wireframe Little Mac, the Koopalings, Bayonetta 1 Bayo, the different Inklings, Winter Isabelle (not much to change though- however the town hall in New Leaf does have variants…), the different colors of Piranha Plant, Joker’s school alt, the different Heroes, Shirtless Sephiroth (idk what else he can really do- he’s already shirtless in his final smash…), Suit Kazuya, and pretty much all of the Sora alts. I totally missed some alt colors (and didn’t list most gender differences), but these are pretty much all the possible alts that can have different final smashes. My personal contribution to this idea is that instead of Fireballs, Builder Mario could potentially fire different Mario Maker elements (with a Fire Bar finishing it off to preserve the fire trail after the final smash). The alt based on Ice Mario could fire big ice balls and freeze over the ground. Male Wii Fit trainer could potentially change the silhouettes in the final smash? I’m pretty sure all of them are based on female wii fit trainer. Villager could have their houses be different colored roofs and stuff depending on the alt. I think this one makes the most sense. Someone else already said it but I’m down for the idea of Bayonetta 2 Bayo contracting a different demon for her final smash since Gammorah goes AWOL. Only issue is that would make her current final smash the “secret” one since Bayonetta 2 bayo is the odd numbered alts- which would be weird… Someone has the idea that for the Koopalings, they fire Bullet Bills streaming across the screen, leaving behind smoke in place of where Bowser Jr.’s paint would be. Amazing idea.
Make it so only arusu (the second hero alt) summons other heroes during his final smash and the rest get the help from their respective allies.
Bring back meta knights old final smash for half of his alts
Have other characters in the chain attack for shulk
Omega blaster for Samus
Lucas doesn’t even use PK Starstorm, that’s Kumatora’s move. He should’ve gotten one, or an alternate, based off of PK Love
Hyper Sonic