Seems like they changed they made the spikes longer and more equal length. Looks a bit more like modern Sonic from the back. We’ve hit a weird point people, they’re making them longer
Edit: no I am not complaining or something, not trying to do the usual shtick of “spike short so bad” or something, I was just pointing it out
AFAIK it's a remade model with a higher poly count but I may also be remembering it wrong.
The materials are obviously different, but the model itself is also ever so slightly different IIRC.
Honestly... I actually like it, it makes him look more spikey and kinda reminds me a little of CD Sonic. Plus it just matches his classic sprites more accurately.
To add onto the Sonic CD comparison, classic Sonic leans a lot into the "Cute" aesthetic, which just feels so out of character. Sonic was always supposed to be cool, especially in the Genesis days(bc console wars)
Giving classic sonic long, rounded spikes was a huge part of that cutification
So, I love that they reversed that decision here, it makes classic Sonic feel a lot more like the Genesis Sonic
Agreed. JP Classic Sonic was cute, but still looked cool. He was never a cutesy mascot character, his charm came from being a radical speedy hedgehog.
The sharpness of this new design definitely conveys that cool Sonic much better.
I guess there trying to make it crystal clear that this is sonic from the past, which they have been saying constantly since tails tube that he's past sonic.
To be fair, we need to have some way to differentiate younger Sonic from Classic Sonic. Also, I like how many different versions of Sonic we have, really following the Kingdom Hearts model
I’m surprised people even notice the bloody difference. Which makes me question why even change it in the first place if it’s THAT small of an adjustment??
If they wanna make him more like the American Sonic, or whatever they’re tryin to do here, they should at least fully dedicate to it!
Yeah, I know! Like, of all the things to change it’s this? It’s such a small adjustment. Also I noticed it cuz I just recognised a change, usually I look at all the models to get art ideas
I knew I wasn't crazy. I haven't touched Generations in months, but when I saw the new footage I felt like Classic Sonic looked different, then I chalked it up to "eh, maybe I'm misremembering"
I think it looks cooler. It gives him a more rebellious and cool look, which is what Sonic was always meant to be. He's a little to cute in the og model.
I don't really care personally but... [I have to at least add this meme (not by me)](https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/s4q39p/the_great_quill_debate_in_a_nutshell/)
https://preview.redd.it/b84732h9qs5d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc0ad630cd11a4ecd7188d169e3c0407c366aeca
In the second comparison, I don't mind, it looks pretty nice, I feel, but the first one looks a bit off for me.
It kinda makes me think as if Classic Sonic's head is in a constant state of using the [Hover ability from Colors](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/6/6f/Hover-Wisp.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20151112164237).
I'm 90% sure that's just a bug. Someone on Twitter mentioned a malfunctioning giggle bone. We'll have to wait until the game releases and it's datamined to properly find out.
I see it as:
Sega: "Fine, after all this time, we now have made it so Classic Sonic's Quills are more like modern after you guys kept complaining about Modern's Quill Length."
I think the second picture looks kinda weird but im assuming they just haven't readjusted the animation to fit the new model yet since it looks fine in the latter image
There is a video, just search Sonic X Shadow Generations gameplay and it should be the first video. His spines have a little bit more sway to them, some more movement but not too much
I think I prefer the old one from the side but the 3/4 running angle is better with the new
I don't really like how the top spine is kind of floating there in the 2nd image Did this screenshot come when Sonic was moving / stopped moving?
I weirdly kinda like it. It looks kinda punky, like some of the frames from the Sonic CD animated sequences.
I was thinking the same thing. Looks better imo
Oh yea it does look like its floating
I'm gonna go scream at a Gamestop employee about it.
"Don't call anybody!"
Still not sure why he said that
Don't forget your pepper spray
Seems like they changed they made the spikes longer and more equal length. Looks a bit more like modern Sonic from the back. We’ve hit a weird point people, they’re making them longer Edit: no I am not complaining or something, not trying to do the usual shtick of “spike short so bad” or something, I was just pointing it out
Ever since Modern Sonic got that shit trim in Sonic Forces he hasn’t grown it back ever since.
They should make them long as fuck like ‘06 again.
Did he not have longer quills again in Frontiers? I swear he did.
Nope. Same model as Forces. Which I’d say was a shitte decision from their end
AFAIK it's a remade model with a higher poly count but I may also be remembering it wrong. The materials are obviously different, but the model itself is also ever so slightly different IIRC.
I didn't even notice Sonic had shorter quills in Forces
It’s very noticeable https://preview.redd.it/mkjn3s9e8w5d1.jpeg?width=936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dedfa3ce5637aae4d1373da6396e6517b28e436b
Oh yeah. But it's a very minor difference
I don't mind the Forces model, as long as it's animated properly. And anything is a step up from the Forces animation.
Honestly... I actually like it, it makes him look more spikey and kinda reminds me a little of CD Sonic. Plus it just matches his classic sprites more accurately.
To add onto the Sonic CD comparison, classic Sonic leans a lot into the "Cute" aesthetic, which just feels so out of character. Sonic was always supposed to be cool, especially in the Genesis days(bc console wars) Giving classic sonic long, rounded spikes was a huge part of that cutification So, I love that they reversed that decision here, it makes classic Sonic feel a lot more like the Genesis Sonic
Agreed. JP Classic Sonic was cute, but still looked cool. He was never a cutesy mascot character, his charm came from being a radical speedy hedgehog. The sharpness of this new design definitely conveys that cool Sonic much better.
Santiago tries to sneak in without being noticed
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Right back at ya!
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I’ve been circlejerking this phrase for so long I forgot people actually say it unironically
What does the phrase mean
google santiago sonic and go to pics you would probably see that reddit post, not sure if i can put links in a comments
i just referenced a meme,tho i do think 3d classic sonic from generations look ugly
Kinda reminds toei sonic
I was wondering if they changed his model to the one from Forces, and just retextured him.
oh god not sonic quill stuff again
Barely noticeable
I guess there trying to make it crystal clear that this is sonic from the past, which they have been saying constantly since tails tube that he's past sonic.
Oh they got rid of that middle spike. I honestly think this new one looks better
They didn’t, it’s lower down on his head, much closer to Modern’s design.
![gif](giphy|iFg3pN8dTBj5v7C5VW|downsized) holy shit this gif is massive
Dang, really is-
To be fair, we need to have some way to differentiate younger Sonic from Classic Sonic. Also, I like how many different versions of Sonic we have, really following the Kingdom Hearts model
Yeah, there’s like a new Sonic every game lol
Why... why is it just the top quill sticking up so awkwardly? Imma be real, he looks better in the original 2011 release
Looks more sleek but yeah, does stick out a bit
Sonic fans will look at the same piece of bread and go, "no guys! It's totally different!"
Classic Sonic would definitely taste like yeast
I like it.Longer quills and dark blue looks good on him
LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
They’re the same pictures aside from the background.
i sense toei in the second flick.
Is this Chaomix starting another quill debate?
Im shocked people actually care about this tbh
Much better, I hope the model is the same one used in the poster because that's awesome
The second image looks like if Metal tried putting on a sonic suit
It’s okay
Give him a break, he woke up late and didn't have time to brush it
I think it looks nice. It has a little more style.
Huh its like hes growing up? Looking more like current sonic? I like it though but im a Sonic is Sonic kind of guy.
looks off, but ig i like thats its being touched up
New one looks unusual. Let's see on release....
He looks silly.
![gif](giphy|w4skVrObwuQN07Ehue|downsized)
Dude wtf? 0/10 game Sonic is ded.
I’m surprised people even notice the bloody difference. Which makes me question why even change it in the first place if it’s THAT small of an adjustment?? If they wanna make him more like the American Sonic, or whatever they’re tryin to do here, they should at least fully dedicate to it!
Yeah, I know! Like, of all the things to change it’s this? It’s such a small adjustment. Also I noticed it cuz I just recognised a change, usually I look at all the models to get art ideas
I like it a lot more! Really improves his silhouette!
I prefer the old model. But didn’t Sonic have 6 quills since Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Hope they add that middle quill back.
https://preview.redd.it/kfesem97tr5d1.png?width=300&format=png&auto=webp&s=404b91b384b0ef63b4c060e0b6241370ddf3b5d8
I knew I wasn't crazy. I haven't touched Generations in months, but when I saw the new footage I felt like Classic Sonic looked different, then I chalked it up to "eh, maybe I'm misremembering"
I think it looks cooler. It gives him a more rebellious and cool look, which is what Sonic was always meant to be. He's a little to cute in the og model.
Damn,they REALLY don't want the Santiago thing to happen again uh?
They removed his lower middle head spike, that's not Sonic anymore, not even Santiago, that's blue Amy
Actually it isn’t gone, it’s just pretty hard to notice in the image
Oh, good, great even >!perhaps even awesome, outstanding maybe? Amazing.!<
Literally the smallest change known to man
oh boi here we go again
I can barely tell a difference for the running images but I think I prefer the newer ones... Something about them just clicks for me...
I actually like the one with the Mohawk quills.
I like it
I prefer the old one but I hadn't even noticed they were different til now so it doesn't bother me too much.
Would thou like some more pixels?
Best images I could get bud
Is it closer to the Toei version now, or is it just me?
Seems like they want to keep it closer to the Tyson Hesse/Mania promotional art/Sonic CD opening look
I prefer the way it was originally.
Literally unplayable. Will wait for the mods.
The old model looks nicer overall, but I do like the new one.
I don't really care personally but... [I have to at least add this meme (not by me)](https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/s4q39p/the_great_quill_debate_in_a_nutshell/) https://preview.redd.it/b84732h9qs5d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc0ad630cd11a4ecd7188d169e3c0407c366aeca
Reddit when Sonic’s spines are slightly different be like:
Nope, we're not doing this again
i just love that there's a guy in sega fucking around with the quills for every other game without any reason.
Sonic just likes trying out new haircuts
I kind of see them trying to recreate how Classic looked in the original games. But I could also be insane
sonic fans can't find peace
I truly believe I started something I shouldn’t have, I made the Sonic Redditors angry
I dig it
In the second comparison, I don't mind, it looks pretty nice, I feel, but the first one looks a bit off for me. It kinda makes me think as if Classic Sonic's head is in a constant state of using the [Hover ability from Colors](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/6/6f/Hover-Wisp.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20151112164237).
I'm 90% sure that's just a bug. Someone on Twitter mentioned a malfunctioning giggle bone. We'll have to wait until the game releases and it's datamined to properly find out.
Kinda looks less Santiago, more Toei
He looks like OVA Sonic from the side; I like him.
Kinda reminds me of Toei Sonic
Sonic fans when the slightest thing is different
OH MY GOD THE SPIKE IS ONE CENTIMETER UP WHART!!1!!1111!!
I prefer it downswept.
It feels off. Can’t say I’m a fan.
how do you have worse quality images of the game thats already been released
I see it as: Sega: "Fine, after all this time, we now have made it so Classic Sonic's Quills are more like modern after you guys kept complaining about Modern's Quill Length."
I like the new one, it's reminiscent of the Sonic CD animated cutscene design.
I think the second picture looks kinda weird but im assuming they just haven't readjusted the animation to fit the new model yet since it looks fine in the latter image
please be hair physics like SA2 please be hair physics like SA2 please be hair physics like SA2. yeah,i cant say i DID like it
Sonic hair physics are cool, they’re definitely at their best in 06
Someone at Sonic Team is hired to mess with his spikes from time to time just to screw around with the fandom
It’s secretly Eggman making his next evil scheme
OH MY GOD SHUT THE HELL UP
I was only pointing it out, it’s a weird model change
I love how people are complaning about this stupidly small change. You guys probably wouldn't even notice the difference if it wasn't for this post.
I wish people wouldn’t complain and just talk about it like normal
I think they need to let go of this annoying "classic sonic" gimmick let it go already
In a port of Sonic Generations????
Yes
So you want them to remove content from the game? Or just randomly have Modern play differently for huge chunks of the game?
Alright I take it back, not in this case keep him but why is he so necessary in every n e w sonic game for the rest of forever now
Bruh
HISTORICAL REVISIONISM!!! PRESERVE ALL COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL GENERATIONS BEFORE NANNY STATE SEGA ERASES THE UNWOKE CLASSIC SONIC FROM EXISTENCE!!!
Side view after looks weird but the running pic looks fine. Santiago decided to switch it up it seems
Why do people care about quills, as long the game is good, that is what matters.
It’s simply one of the only changes to notice in this remaster, I just saw it and found it interesting, like of all the things to change why this?
Asking "why do people care?" isn't it because if it wasn't a big deal to begin with then why did they go out their way to even change it?
Not a fan, but it’s not a big deal
Never said it was a big deal, I just asked people what they thought
Yeah, and my thought is that it’s not a big deal for me lol
I think I'll need to see him in motion to really make up my mind
There is a video, just search Sonic X Shadow Generations gameplay and it should be the first video. His spines have a little bit more sway to them, some more movement but not too much
I’m fine with it
I thought I was in r/sonicthehedgejerk for a second
Ew
I like it. Looks more like the Classic games to me
Literally unplayable
[удалено]
Huh? But they’re longer here?
Maybe I'm confused, sorry! They looked shorter to me at first Maybe it's cause their down more? I'm not sure- my nistake! Haha
the quills are raised, they literally stick up more in the new look