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KingMario05

Pissing off Sonic is like pissing off Superman: Just *don't fucking do it.*


The_WereArcticFox

Yeah. The last two DC heroes you want to piss off is Batman and Superman


KingMario05

Flash, too. Someone faster than *light* runs into you at full-blast... they'd have to scrape your remains off the fucking **space station.**


themagicone222

The random thugs in Arkham Knight said it best: "I'd rather Metropolis or Gotham than Keystone. *At least you can see Bats and Superman coming.*"


The_WereArcticFox

And even Mario in a way. He can kick a castle like if it was a ball. I am writing a FanFiction which is basically Injustice gods among us, but with Smash characters, with an evil Mario and Sonic trying to stop him (and having to carry on his predecessor (leader of the resistance) Link)


mewfour123412

Link me


The_WereArcticFox

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13710041


Conzi13

Bro this is literally so good, I’m about half way through and am very curious as to how it ends!


KingMario05

That's great, I'll be sure to give it a read-through. And say... you're not oppose to Sonic befriending *non*\-Nintendo characters too, right? Because, if so... [I can easily see him playing nice with everyone's favorite Xbox space marine.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_pAa9252Uo) ^(Alright, fine, John wouldn't want anything to do with him... but I do think he could woo over Cortana.)


The_WereArcticFox

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13710041


psykosav

holy shit nice if i could give you award i would


ActuallyNotJesus

Yo I love that. It’s so absurd but yet wonderful


The_WereArcticFox

Yeah.


mewfour123412

He once moved faster then an instant teleportation


Eeve2espeon

Replace this scene with the Flash, and its basically the same lol


PuffballDestroyer

One of my favorite Flash moments from the DCAU was when he got jettisoned out of a space station, pulled back in by GLJS, and subsequently knocked out every mook on board.


signifyingmnky

I'd argue that the last one you'd want to piss off is actually Wonder Woman. Diana would take your head off and dare someone to say something about it. Kal and Bruce were raised with morals.


i_luv_many_hen_ties

Nah Batman would just do the same thing he does to all criminals, but yes Superman is the guy you don’t wanna piss off as seen in injustice


CrazyApricot0

Why did you say that name!?


[deleted]

You guys are all over the place with this comparison lol


[deleted]

Depends on which Batman


[deleted]

As a normal human you shouldn’t even piss off someone stronger than you. Superheroes are on a whole other level. Killing a strong human is like squashing a bug to them.


TerryBungalo

“You’d better hope you can run faster than me” he says, knowing damn well he’s one of the fastest living things in existence.


CalebKOnline

aint that the point tho?


TerryBungalo

Yeah. Its a perfect threat. He’s reminding them that if anybody’s hurt, they literally cannot outrun him.


KingMario05

And imagine if he said that with a sword in hand, too. No, he wouldn't *need* to use one to kill ya... but, if you made him mad enough, he'd use one anyway. And use it *multiple* times. *Just to make sure that it HURT.*


GizmoC7

And we all thought Shadow was the edgy one


KingMario05

"Wouldn't be caught **DEAD** with one of those things, Shadow." (*As he says this, Sonic conjures a katana out of thin air before cracking a sadistic grin.*) "Besides, faker... playing around with the blade is *fun*."


ezlaturbo

Black Knight references!! BTW, if he had the Werehog teeth at that point, it would have been also pretty dark, but he only got that later.


IsotopeC

But surely if Jet's the fastest thing in the skies, it'd be null and void?


cavhel

All birds have to land eventually


sushi_demon_exe

the birds are fast... but sonic is faster


[deleted]

Yes! This version of Sonic is **awesome**! They need to use this personality trait more often in the video games! Lol I think that's why I like Shadow and Silver a bit more usually too. I like serious personality characters.


DELGMKarino

The time he went across an entire continent in seconds. https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/106c0c99-b203-4f8c-b4c5-b4bc21901f28/d46h235-dded9b59-e038-477d-a9ec-6eff4ec55a21.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvMTA2YzBjOTktYjIwMy00ZjhjLWI0YzUtYjRiYzIxOTAxZjI4XC9kNDZoMjM1LWRkZWQ5YjU5LWUwMzgtNDc3ZC1hOWVjLTZlZmY0ZWM1NWEyMS5qcGcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.celnDA4GYg-zhSv1lcXPgICNjgKQ1o-HMq7LqEL-vLc


[deleted]

Whoa. xD Who was he fighting there? Was it still in the same comic with the Babylon Rogues or another issue?


DELGMKarino

Different issue. He was fighting Eggman. It was during the eggman wins arc. At that point of the issue everyone Sonic knows except Tails, Amy, Nicole, and Knuckles has been captured by Eggman.


[deleted]

Oh wow, I don't remember reading that issue, to be honest. But I used to buy Archie comics a lot til sometime near the end after some point in the higher 100s, though I don't remember when. But I stopped somewhere before the ending issues, I recall. Then just got IDW once it started.


SiTheGreat

That was around issue 175 iirc


Shemsu_Hor_9

It was another issue (175), he was fighting Eggman. The doctor had built a giant bot, the Egg Beater, specifically to counter every single ability of Sonic. You can read a nice summary for that arc here: [Destruction of Knothole - Sonic News Network, the Sonic Wiki (fandom.com)](https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Destruction_of_Knothole)


[deleted]

Thanks. I don't entirely remember if I owned or read the issue, but I could have forgotten the details over time if I did as well. I used to buy the comics of Archie for a few years. I'll take a look, thanks for the link.


Zikkeboi

He is fighting Eggman. I believe this was issue 175. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.


[deleted]

Thanks. :) I don't really remember if I had and read that issue or not.


[deleted]

Too bad Sonic's not allowed to emote too strongly anymore. Shame.


AnythingAlfred613

I told my sister about that mandate the other day, and she was pretty dumbfounded by it.


[deleted]

There's a whole lot of other shit that's mandated and none of it makes sense. Just dumbs everything down to being squeaky clean and boring


MagnatausIzunia

Mandate?


AnythingAlfred613

[This should catch you up-to-speed.](https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Ken_Penders%27_legal_cases)


Optimal_Confection_5

I fucking hate Ken Penders even more now


Redditor_PC

IIRC, the original version of that scene had Sonic absolutely livid before he's about to attack Eggman, but Sega changed it to having him sneer at Eggman before attacking instead.


[deleted]

I'm not sure about that, but I do remember that he once had to watch his children get erased from the timeline. He was supposed to be absolutely miserable from this, but it got censored to just a frown and a single tear.


GreyouTT

For some reason I still hear Sonic's comic voice as Jason Griffith.


DELGMKarino

me too.


DarkMarxSoul

They just need to give him a personality, period.


DELGMKarino

I'd argue that Sonic is all personality since he never goes through character arcs. (Sonic having the flat character arc that inspires other characters to grow and go through story arcs)


Xavior18

Sonic isn't meant to be a character that's serious all the time, tho.


KingMario05

Oh, of course. It's just that the whole "lol I'm so funny" thing doesn't really seem appropriate if Eggman's killed all your friends and is seconds away from enslaving the world...


FamiliarAnt1

I miss moments like this where things are actually serious, and Sonic takes it seriously. Archie comics were really good at that.


Xavior18

Like it still does happen.


[deleted]

I mean...does it?


KickHimWhileIAmDown

I'm guessing you haven't read the IDW metal virus arc if you think the comics still aren't serious


FamiliarAnt1

I did read those ones actually. I'm not saying Sonic never gets serious, but it was really toned down from how he used to get. Like the example above. The IDW has been more of him being weighed down from realizing something, but he bounces back almost right away. Like, "Oh well. Next!" It takes away the from his character imo.


KickHimWhileIAmDown

That's fair. Yeah, I prefer the stories to be more serious, also


Xavior18

To be fair, Sonic was rarely serious himself in the games even before 06.


FamiliarAnt1

Yeah. Maybe that's to appeal to kids? Idk. It just makes him seem to aloof and carefree imo. But that's just me.


ezlaturbo

It doesn't tho.


Xavior18

Nah.


mxmaker

The writer was a good one, but the time change the rules, and now we cant talk about important issue in child comics.


MojaveCourier726

*I suddenly want the archie comics rn*


SmithNoNuma

Honestly same


Nivelacker

Just stay away from the parts that have KP syndrome. Other than that, yes, please read them.


Smileyface8156

What’s KP syndrome?


HariKeru

Ken Penders


DonJuanTriunfante

Fuck him and fuck his mother for not swallowing him.


GuivenancioYong

his mum dont deserve that.


Smileyface8156

Who is that? (Sorry, I’m a little new here!)


MedicInDisquise

One of the original writers for the comic. Back in the day, there weren't any "mandates" or daddy SEGA overwatching the comics. It was a free for all. Seriously Early Archie could get wild sometimes - and that was partly due to Penders, who populated Archie with his characters. People generally liked it, but he started going so far with his stories and characters that SEGA noticed. They fired him- but he was butthurt, and sued to take his characters away from Archie. He actually kinda WON the lawsuit, and that caused a huge mess for Archie because they had to write around ALL of his characters, soe of which were very important characters. This is a direct link to them eventually being shut down and Sonic IDW becoming the main comic series. It's not a stretch to say that the beloved Archie comics were ruined because of Penders. He's also generally a weird person and a bad artist to begin with - his comics were melodramatic and contained many off-color material. One infamous part was a comic where a character used a holocaust quote to discuss Robotnik's rule over Mobius.


ZedEarthnut

Is there a good place to start reading the comics, or would you advise reading from the very beginning? After reading your comment, I kinda don't want to start at the beginning...


AmaterasuWolf21

I started at issue 160 which is when a new writer took place but starting there can be a bit wacky since you're expected to already know many of the characters and events beforehand but once everything is settled and you get used to it and it shouldn't be a problem However, you could start at 252 because due to Ken Penders the series was rebooted, and that's where a new fresh continuity starts (but the issue posted is not part of that continuity) So you can go either read it fully, read it from 160 or from 252, in any case just check a [chronological order](https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/6igihl/comics_madeedited_a_reading_order_for_the_archie/)


MedicInDisquise

I don't honestly know, but there should be sites out there that allow you to read the comics online. And while the Early Archie comics could get weird, they're still worth a read through and if you plan on binging the ENTIRE series then you definately have to!


Nivelacker

Well, the beginning was fine, as things only started getting bad after the "Endgame" story arc (issues 47-50, though 51 is a pretty good one-shot). I think you can skip ahead after that.


Ryokupo

I'm hoping IDW brings them back in new collected editions. They've done it before with Marvel Transformers, and the Mirage and Image TMNT runs.


[deleted]

I've been wanting them back for a while


crystallize1

but mah Tangul and Whispur bruh


secret_pupper

They can be integrated in. That's the beauty of the Archie comics, they basically welded every incarnation of the Sonic canon into one single universe, where the Freedom Fighters, the Hooligans, the Babylon Rogues, and whoever else can all coexist.


--NTW--

And as much as it got messy after a while, the multiverse and alternate dimensions were pretty cool, at least I thought and still think that. Also the Dark Legion, but that's moreso because I like cybernetic Echidnas.


crystallize1

Combine Comics


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[deleted]

Who made you and why?


KingMario05

Someone revive them for real, please. Hell, WB have an animated movie division **AND** a [good relationship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_the_Teenage_Witch_(1996_TV_series)) [with Archie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverdale_(2017_TV_series))... so why not have the DCAU guys do a line of adaptations for HBO Max?


NightGuardianZX500

This Sonic can put even Scourge in his place.


ultimateanimefan05

Ooooooohhhh Dark....... i like it


Dragmore53

Holy fuck, that last line has all the murderous intent as Goku when he first went super saiyan.


Tankirb

SONIC WHAT ARE YOU DOING THAT WAS THE GAMECUBE 2


AfroBaggins

WHY DIDN'T STORM USE HIS ENEMY STAND?!


[deleted]

This is some "Spider-Man: Back in Black" levels of oh shit


LeafyHasIt

Archie sonic is the best sonic


ClownOnABench

*"They say I can run faster than light..."* **"No..."** **"They’re wrong. I am the darkness that gets there beforehand."**


[deleted]

Cringe. 😓


[deleted]

You’re cringe


ProfessorLovely

Archie Sonic is probably my favorite iteration of the blue blue by far


SnesySnas

Yeah the Archie comics atleast tried to develop Sonic as a full character instead of "look i'm blue i'm speed and i'm cocky and cool" Though i remember at one point where they tried to make him bawl his eyes out but Sega didn't allow it for some reason


Redditor_PC

Archie Sonic didn't get mad like this very often, so when he did, it had some pretty dang hard impact. That's what makes moments like these so cool to see.


Lightningbro

Y'know, I LOVE that idea of a threat from Sonic. "If my friends aren't okay, well, then you better hope you can run faster than me..." says the fastest thing alive. It's a quite literal "If they aren't okay, you know as well as I do, there's nowhere you can hide, and no one can outrun me." Using his speed as a threat, I love it!


Slippy-butter

Damn. I can see why Modern Sonic is now a comedy king.


DELGMKarino

Context, you lack context. Sonic is justified in this instance.


[deleted]

I like these comics for being mercilessly cool


revfitz

I miss Archie Sonic. Still wish for the ff in a retro game


R1S4

I personally find Archie sonic to be way to authority-loving for a guy as free and careless as the wind. But different interpretations of the character are always fun to see.


Hypefangirl

Yeah, I love to see sonic acting differently sometimes. I think it’s kinda cool.


[deleted]

I think there were actually a few times where he clashed with some of the mobian authorities, wasn't there?


R1S4

I guess but it should be a rule, not a handful of exceptions imo. Not that it matters anymore... but it should be considered as the series trudges on so as to not make the guy who is literally associated with wind into a stick in the mud.


[deleted]

I'm not arguing against your vision for his character, but (and I'm going entirely off of Archie--I haven't gotten to read IDW yet) I think he usually benefited from just how high his status in the monarchy was (boyfriend to the Princess, buddies with the King). I don't recall him feeling like a sock in the mud, largely because he had a definitive "rules don't apply to me" style. Granted, I haven't read the comics in a few years, so I could well be misremembering.


Wherfus

Good point. Archie Sonic believed in the fundamentals of the kingdom's society but he was quick to call out bad decisions and actively defy or even work against the kingdom if he didn't agree with their decisions.


Enfadia_Vryskull

Holy shit, this sonic gives absolutely ZERO fucks!


thediscountthor

It reminds me when people piss off Spider-man in the comics. Like, do not do it. He becomes a force of nature when he gets angry.


[deleted]

Remember that one time when Peter got possessed and knocked someone’s jaw clean off with just one punch? Sonic could probably do that with his speed


thediscountthor

Sonic is also physically strong. I don't quite think he is as strong as spider man, who can lift tanks, but he's been shown ripping trees out of their stumps before.


[deleted]

Ye but I meant like if he ever got possessed or lost control basically no one would be able to stop him as he just runs through whoever he’s chasing


FeelsGoodMan243

Jesus, can sonic is still on edge from the zombie apocalypse eh? First edgy cream, now we getting dark sonic soon? Sonic X vibes


[deleted]

What issue of Archie is this?


SatPatGalPal

Looks like Sonic Universe issue 36 Babylon Rising, I could be wrong though as I don't own that comic.


Redditor_PC

I believe you're right. It's the last part of the Babylon Rising 4-parter.


SkyAir457

I wish Sonic would act more like this


[deleted]

What issue is this?


Redditor_PC

Sonic Universe 36.


Sylveonlover2013

Can’t wait for the Babylon Rouges to appear in the IDW Comics


Sylveonlover2013

Oh right Zombot Saga


PopularGnat262

How ironic is it that he’s talking about be tiffing turkeys during november


AnotherRobotSonic

Puts into perspective the changes Sonic went through over the years.


Tycoo8

God damnit, Sonic broke the tesseract


skully1919

Bird up 🐦


thebruhman69

*bam bam BAMP* 🐦🐤🦆


Colilite

That glare Sonic gives them at the end... oh man. Shame they aren't Eggman, he's an expert at bailing.


Just-Sonic

IDW and regular Sonic- Cocky but just a guy who loves adventure. Archie Sonic: T O U G H E R


GuivenancioYong

which media do you refer "regular" sonic in? and i feel it too early to judge sonic from idw and compared him to archie which already have 250 issue featuring him.


Just-Sonic

The one from the games.


Demetri124

The turkey stuffing thing raises questions... do they have regular animals in the Archie world, and if so nobody feels weird about eating them? Woah woah wait! While we’re at it, where the fuck do chilli dogs come from???


toone156

Sonics version of "Ah nigga don't hate me cause I'm beautiful nigga. Maybe if you got rid of that old yee yee ass haircut, you'd get some bitches on yo dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Tanisha'll call your dog ass if she stops fuckin' with that brain surgeon or lawyer she fucking with. Niiggaaa"


thecomplex7

I want a sonic voice over on that part


AnotherUser007_yep

So Archie CAN be a pissed off dick like UK Comic’s Sonic.....neato


bendymachine654

Wow a good sonic for once, wish we had Archie games


Brave-Gallade

an archie rpg would be SICK


bendymachine654

Or maybe a mainline game/spin-off like shadow the hedgehog kinda was


KingMario05

Open world action-adventure from Sony/Insomniac, please...they'd fuckin' *kill it*. ^(And give it a hard T/soft M rating, because why the hell not.)


i_luv_many_hen_ties

Jesus Christ sonic what did they do to you


FittefWhisper96

Jesus lord sonic


FittefWhisper96

I want him to act like that in the games


Hypefangirl

I wanted him to act like that in colors, and forces.


Hypefangirl

Imagine if these writers had written sonic forces 😏 (still liked the original story and sonic did look more serious than usual)


AfroWarrior27

That wouldn't really fit with Colors atmosphere. But it would with Forces.


Hypefangirl

Mm yes, it would’ve been better if he had acted in colors like he did in unleashed.


AfroWarrior27

Can't agree with that. Unleashed did have a more serious tone than Colors. Unless you mean the other way around?


Hypefangirl

I meant like the way he acted (like, being nice to everyone) I thought he was adorable.


AfroWarrior27

Wait So you meant how he acted like in Unleashed to be like that in Colors? Because your comment sound like you meant it inversely.


Hypefangirl

I actually don’t know anymore xd it would’ve been fine if it hadn’t all been like a comedy (in colors) and he just acted normal and act serious every time he needed to. Oh wait (*remembers the colors DS version) yes! It was perfect in the DS version, the writers did a better job on the script in the DS version.


FoxyFan505

I’m curious what the context was here


_Veprem_

[https://archiesonic.fandom.com/wiki/Babylon\_Rogues/Pre-SGW](https://archiesonic.fandom.com/wiki/Babylon_Rogues/Pre-SGW)


uog101

WHAT DID THEY ***DO***????


EltonStuffProdutions

Unrooted a giant treasure, knowing dang well that the giant treasure battleship was under Sonic's Hometown, and unburying it would throw the town into chaos.


_Veprem_

They destroyed New Mobotropolis with a big laser drill because Babylon Garden was underneath it. The Garden turned out to be a spaceship, with an autopilot that was going to create a wormhole that would destroy all of Mobius.


mystic-gav_gav

Holy shit


EltonStuffProdutions

The cool thing is, Sonic didn't appear for most of this arc. This is the first time he appeared I believe, and yet, he carries the story


CosplayNoah

Is it just me or would Archie Sonic make Modern Sonic piss himself?


Awkward_Guidance1030

Damn Right


PigPopcorn

Just some casual racism sprinkled in there


zaktheyak1

He was really pissed at the time too. This was right after so many bad things happened, then all of a sudden, sonic was burdened with this Babylon rogues subplot and wanted nothing to do with it


HarryIsSausage

„You better hope you’re faster than me“ Sonic is saying don’t do it or die


Ones-Zeroes

I am really not a fan of those bottom eyelids


Enlog

You don’t make stuffing out of turkey.


noxthewatchmaker

daaaamn ge is badass


DreadAngel1711

This is why I live moments when Sonic has enough NEVER piss off Sonic


thebruhman69

Is there a way on how I can get started on Archie Sonic


Pieter_De_Rastaman

I wish I could read the Archie Comics


GroundbreakingSell71

YouTube my man or Sonic Comic Online


Pieter_De_Rastaman

Fair enough. I wish I could get the comics irl


GustaTheGamer4

This is where Sonic.EXE came to life


Yohfr

Any link or weabsite name for read harchie comics online ?


Hahahafunnies

“Archie sonic has zero chili dogs“


WideREKXO

how sonic should have been like in sonic forces serious


Allfathergivemesauce

damn i really need somewhere to read the archie comics, i completely missed out on them


[deleted]

Damn.


Chonzo_1

It’s funny cause Jet and Co are basically just average citizens with no powers when you think about it.


neonthefox12

On one hand its nice to see Sonic be serious On the other hand, I can see why Sega has that mandate


dragn99

Nah, I'd *love* to see a moment like this in the games.


RedFoxCommissar

Hard disagree on that one. The mandates do nothing but hold the franchise back.


KingMario05

Damn right. If Spidey can bawl in his game, so can Sonic. ^(Although I hope whatever deluded Sony and/or Marvel exec that greenlit the face change goes to Hell... that honestly ruins the moment.)


[deleted]

I can't honestly. What justification do you see?


neonthefox12

Conflict of interest. Sega may want to move Sonic in a certain direction, only to run into how another writer has depicted their character.


LeddDraco

"I'm the fastest thing in the universe!" --Jett the Hawk before he was spin-dashed out a window.


ShinyTentaquil

This is proof that Sonic being out of character didn't start with pontac and graff.


secret_pupper

On the contrary, this is exactly how I'd picture Sonic behaving if you really, really pushed him over the edge. No jokes, no whiplash, no "I was too slow to save my buddy!". This is a side of the character we never get to see anymore, since Sega's afraid of good writing.


ShinyTentaquil

We don't get to see anymore because it doesn't exist. It was made up for archie sth because most of their issues are basically soap operas. Sorry, but i can't conceive in my mind any situation where the actual sonic would consider letting someone to die.


Ben10Extreme

'Consider' vs 'Actually going through with it.' In the IDW comics, Sonic spared an Amnesiac Eggman from Shadow's wrath because technically he doesn't remember doing anything wrong. He was more than willing to leave the man be since he doesn't remember anything and thus not a threat. None of them could predict Starline bringing Eggman's memories back. It's more on the former than the latter, but that doesn't excuse what the latter does next. And almost immediately after that, Eggman starts a Zombie Apocalypse that renders countless denizens Zombots. Shadow predictably goes 'I told you so.' Sonic quickly loses patience and demand Eggman create a cure, and threatens to infect him out of spite. He also let Starline be banished to who knows where after the fact, and nearly blowing him and Silver up. No sympathy.aa If letting his worst enemy live, said worst enemy stabs him in the back and triggers the zombie apocalypse, and refuses to create a cure as more of his friends become infected DIDN'T test Sonic's patience, I'd be dumbfounded. Not to mention, he has killed several of his enemies in the gaming continuity, but only after they made it clear that pacifying them was not an option. Erazer Jinn may be the best example of that loss of patience. Of course, all of this depends on which iteration you view as the 'actual' Sonic.


GroundbreakingSell71

Bro this is nothing compared to Archie you piss him off and your basically dead


[deleted]

Man do I miss the serious tones the Archie comics had.