From the US census bureau: South Dakota vs US averages-
South Dakota Income & Poverty
Median household income (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $63,920
Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $33,468
Persons in poverty, percent 12.5%
US Income & Poverty
Median household income (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $69,021
Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $37,638
Persons in poverty, percent 11.5%
( [https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US,SD/INC110221](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US,SD/INC110221)
Just to expand that out:
Rapid City, Sioux Falls, US ave, South Dakota Ave.
Income & Poverty
Median household income (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021
$58,072 $ 66,761 $69,021 $63,920
Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021
$34,916 $36,430 $37,638 $33,468
Persons in poverty, percent
14.3% 9.5% 11.5% 12.5%
quick answer: no,its not legit.
Almost definitely not, according to bereau of labor the average wage, total wage not starting in sd is $49,890 with a median wage (which is the most more accurate and representative
number) of $39,873.
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_sd.htm
I'm not sure if how familiar you are with south dakota but Noem is a snake, don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth, especially a number like that.
The commercial is not even semi-accurate, *especially* for those without college degrees who receive only hourly wages.
Most jobs are $15/hr ($31K/yr) to $17/hr ($35K/yr).
25 years? Lol. Higher paying 40hr week places around me that don't require a degree are still paying around 14 starting, some start out less than that. Sure if you're in a highly populated area where cost of living is 3X higher, you can make "more", but it all goes up in smoke due to the higher COL. Inflation outpaces wages, might as well be getting a pay cut every year rather than a raise
Jobless right now and my wife just recently started one. We joke with each other that the state law doesn’t allow employers to pay above $40k/year because it seems like every single job offers exactly that (unless you are in healthcare).
I googled "South Dakota apprenticeship pay" and here's the top result.
>As of Sep 19, 2023, the average hourly pay for an Apprentice in South Dakota is $18.80 an hour. While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $37.02 and as low as $11.54, the majority of Apprentice salaries currently range between $16.35 (25th percentile) to $21.88 (75th percentile) in South Dakota.
To earn $77k at $18.80/hr, you'd need to work 78.76 hours per week. Looks like Kristi lied again. Shocking.
When’s she going to do the math between going to church, banging Corey Lowenbrauski, keeping her husband around, getting her daughter a real estate license, sending the guard to Texas, etc etc. such a busy lady taking care of her constituents.
You forgot the other daughter who was hired right out of college and was the highest paid salary state employee in SD. Or busy the blocking hemp farm bill until it was federally legal for her husband to sell insurance on it. Taking the state plane to fly her kids for prom. Unlawful termination payments. Etc... she's a busy woman.
I see stats like this and realize just how fortunate I am. And I'm not rich at all. Lol.
I do work in skilled trades though, for what it's worth. My year round job is in biological/disease/ nasty shit you don't want anything to do with and I have only a couple years experience with it. It happened kind of on accident too.
My second job is in construction and painting, I have many years of experience with painting and only a couple years experience with direct construction and construction management.
I also have like 10+ years landscaping experience which is nice cause I can always do that crap on the side and make good quick money.
It's a lie. The salaries are much lower than that. No we don't pay income tax, but they really make up for that will taxes on housing, which really screws people when they retire. In fact she keeps telling people to move here and there simply isn't enough places to live.
They tax the poor to death here.
Income tax is a better option unless you have a very high paying job.
There's tax on food from the grocery store and clothing items. The grocery tax blew my mind wren I first got here.
COMPLETE LIES. LMAO. Old Uncle Ted's billions must be figured into the average median income of a South Dakota resident. Oh, and our 4% jobless rate...a lot of people have to work 2nd jobs to be able to survive and not shit in an outhouse.
lol. no. Teachers are lucky to get that type of pay. City workers the same. That is horribly misleading. Small buisinesses around here are paying anywhere from $15-18 hr. That does not get you anywhere near 79k.
My mom taught in the SD public school system for 50 years and retired out making 69k/year. Multiple state and national awards of recognition and there wasn't a summer in my life she wasn't teaching summer school for the bs minimum wage it paid. On top of that, many of the jobs available are in rural communities, where the spouse of the teacher does not have a job. at least 20 years of teaching my mom had a 50 mile commute or more round trip...no fuel reimbursement, no tax deductions for mileage.
I’m skeptical of that Google #, does it include private school salaries into the average? I will say I’m basing my assumptions off of probably 5+ years ago.
I was going to college to be an elementary teacher in the beginning, by the end of my sophomore year, realizing I’d be like 50k+ in student loan debt and only making about 35-40k a year in South Dakota, while making almost 25k already through full time summer work and part time during the school year, being a teacher no longer financially made sense.
It’s also hard because if you took just Sioux Falls teachers out of the mix, rural teachers are not making 40k and that is over 70%+ of the state.
So this isn't a "lie" it's more like "technically the truth" because she says "UP TO" So as long as there is ONE place paying that...
fucking politicians man.
I live in SD but work 100% remote for an out of state organization. Comparable jobs in-state pay $15,000 to $20,000 less than my current salary - and I’d have to put on pants and go sit in some lifeless cubicle. Nope.
Healthcare - but an office type role…not clinical. I have an MA in a totally unrelated field. I kind of started at the bottom and gained experience over the years. I’m 51.
There's no actual limit on the number of terms, except for no more than 2 consecutive terms. She takes a break and then can run again (Janklow did this).
You are correct, she never mentioned $77K for how many hours of work,
Ok I think I figured it out.
14 hours a day - 7 days a week - $15 an hour pay = $76650
I guess it is doable but unfortunately I will dead before I retired so everything will work out woo hoo.
I got hired in state government at a starting salary of $47K two years ago, so I'm not even sure where she's thinking this is remotely true. She's definitely not looking out for state employees, much less anyone else.
Kristi is lying again. In rural areas with low cost of living, 15 is good pay. More populated areas with higher cost of living/higher pay like Sioux Falls are the only places I could see this being true. I work 70+hr weeks, and don't hit 70.
From the US census bureau: South Dakota vs US averages- South Dakota Income & Poverty Median household income (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $63,920 Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $33,468 Persons in poverty, percent 12.5% US Income & Poverty Median household income (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $69,021 Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $37,638 Persons in poverty, percent 11.5% ( [https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US,SD/INC110221](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US,SD/INC110221) Just to expand that out: Rapid City, Sioux Falls, US ave, South Dakota Ave. Income & Poverty Median household income (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $58,072 $ 66,761 $69,021 $63,920 Per capita income in past 12 months (in 2021 dollars), 2017-2021 $34,916 $36,430 $37,638 $33,468 Persons in poverty, percent 14.3% 9.5% 11.5% 12.5% quick answer: no,its not legit.
I wonder how much a realistic poverty limit would raise that percent.
Almost definitely not, according to bereau of labor the average wage, total wage not starting in sd is $49,890 with a median wage (which is the most more accurate and representative number) of $39,873. https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_sd.htm I'm not sure if how familiar you are with south dakota but Noem is a snake, don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth, especially a number like that.
So, don’t believe Cory Lewandowski’s dick?
To be fair she’s actually his mouth piece. Lol
Ha!
This is way more accurate.
The commercial is not even semi-accurate, *especially* for those without college degrees who receive only hourly wages. Most jobs are $15/hr ($31K/yr) to $17/hr ($35K/yr).
It wasnt long ago that 15/hr actually meant something
I was just thinking this the other day. 15 used to be good pay not too long ago.
Ya 25 years isn’t that long
25 years? Lol. Higher paying 40hr week places around me that don't require a degree are still paying around 14 starting, some start out less than that. Sure if you're in a highly populated area where cost of living is 3X higher, you can make "more", but it all goes up in smoke due to the higher COL. Inflation outpaces wages, might as well be getting a pay cut every year rather than a raise
Jobless right now and my wife just recently started one. We joke with each other that the state law doesn’t allow employers to pay above $40k/year because it seems like every single job offers exactly that (unless you are in healthcare).
Sorry to hear that, I hope you find a job as well. Best of luck
Thanks. Very kind of you. You as well!
Not a problem, Thank you
Even healthcare doesn’t pay great here. I made $50k as a new nurse in fucking 2020. SD has some of the worst nursing pay in the country.
Sadly, this figure is laughably inaccurate. Because it's a blatant lie that is!
I googled "South Dakota apprenticeship pay" and here's the top result. >As of Sep 19, 2023, the average hourly pay for an Apprentice in South Dakota is $18.80 an hour. While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $37.02 and as low as $11.54, the majority of Apprentice salaries currently range between $16.35 (25th percentile) to $21.88 (75th percentile) in South Dakota. To earn $77k at $18.80/hr, you'd need to work 78.76 hours per week. Looks like Kristi lied again. Shocking.
When’s she going to do the math between going to church, banging Corey Lowenbrauski, keeping her husband around, getting her daughter a real estate license, sending the guard to Texas, etc etc. such a busy lady taking care of her constituents.
You forgot the other daughter who was hired right out of college and was the highest paid salary state employee in SD. Or busy the blocking hemp farm bill until it was federally legal for her husband to sell insurance on it. Taking the state plane to fly her kids for prom. Unlawful termination payments. Etc... she's a busy woman.
That isnt uncommon when I was an apprentice electrician I was working 60 to 90 hours a week.
she SAID 77,000....the text on the screen said UP to 77,000..........fwiw
I see stats like this and realize just how fortunate I am. And I'm not rich at all. Lol. I do work in skilled trades though, for what it's worth. My year round job is in biological/disease/ nasty shit you don't want anything to do with and I have only a couple years experience with it. It happened kind of on accident too. My second job is in construction and painting, I have many years of experience with painting and only a couple years experience with direct construction and construction management. I also have like 10+ years landscaping experience which is nice cause I can always do that crap on the side and make good quick money.
Sounds like great qualifications to run as that guys vp.
It's a lie. The salaries are much lower than that. No we don't pay income tax, but they really make up for that will taxes on housing, which really screws people when they retire. In fact she keeps telling people to move here and there simply isn't enough places to live.
There are places but not anywhere near where the jobs are located. No one really wants an hour or two commute, especially during the winter.
There are places but someone making the average wage can’t afford the payment
They tax the poor to death here. Income tax is a better option unless you have a very high paying job. There's tax on food from the grocery store and clothing items. The grocery tax blew my mind wren I first got here.
We reward the rich for being rich and punish the poor for being poor.
>semi accurate Not even remotely accurate. If that's the average starting, I should be making 6 figures easy right now.
😂
COMPLETE LIES. LMAO. Old Uncle Ted's billions must be figured into the average median income of a South Dakota resident. Oh, and our 4% jobless rate...a lot of people have to work 2nd jobs to be able to survive and not shit in an outhouse.
Thats a big lie!
Wow, thank you so much for all the great info you guys provided,
This isn't "great info". It's biased info from those who hate this state, and our wonderful Governor.
lol. no. Teachers are lucky to get that type of pay. City workers the same. That is horribly misleading. Small buisinesses around here are paying anywhere from $15-18 hr. That does not get you anywhere near 79k.
Um, where are teachers making 77k!? We are top 3 poorest paying states in the country and most make under $40k.
I agree with you. They are so poorly paid. Maybe long tenured teachers, that's why I said they would be lucky. It's a sad state for teacher pay in SD.
My mom taught in the SD public school system for 50 years and retired out making 69k/year. Multiple state and national awards of recognition and there wasn't a summer in my life she wasn't teaching summer school for the bs minimum wage it paid. On top of that, many of the jobs available are in rural communities, where the spouse of the teacher does not have a job. at least 20 years of teaching my mom had a 50 mile commute or more round trip...no fuel reimbursement, no tax deductions for mileage.
Most make under $40K? I'd like to see some real data on that.
I make 32k as a teacher, base salary. With additional duties as a mentor teacher, coach, and summer school teacher, I get all the way up to 39k.
Apparently the average in South Dakota for teachers is 50k according to a google search
I’m skeptical of that Google #, does it include private school salaries into the average? I will say I’m basing my assumptions off of probably 5+ years ago. I was going to college to be an elementary teacher in the beginning, by the end of my sophomore year, realizing I’d be like 50k+ in student loan debt and only making about 35-40k a year in South Dakota, while making almost 25k already through full time summer work and part time during the school year, being a teacher no longer financially made sense. It’s also hard because if you took just Sioux Falls teachers out of the mix, rural teachers are not making 40k and that is over 70%+ of the state.
Labor bureau
So this isn't a "lie" it's more like "technically the truth" because she says "UP TO" So as long as there is ONE place paying that... fucking politicians man.
Hire a new guy "We pay UP TO 2500 PER WEEK!" *hands him a $500 check*
Median family income is in the $80k range, I doubt an apprentice could earn almost as much as the average married couple here.
So where can I find the number of duped people that have moved here because of her?
From the school of "Don't sell your house, don't even move, stay where you are I am going to bring all those jobs back because only I can do it"!
She's from the school of trump, Her followers believe anything she says even if it's false. Saddle up /s I can't help but chuckle at this.
I live in SD but work 100% remote for an out of state organization. Comparable jobs in-state pay $15,000 to $20,000 less than my current salary - and I’d have to put on pants and go sit in some lifeless cubicle. Nope.
And State jobs are even worse.
And commute in the never-ending construction here. Congrats & hold on to that one!
Do you mind sharing what field this is in and what qualifications are needed?
Healthcare - but an office type role…not clinical. I have an MA in a totally unrelated field. I kind of started at the bottom and gained experience over the years. I’m 51.
Just like how she got into the rich family, she sucked the right dick in the back of a Camaro.
Vote her out!
This is her last term.
There's no actual limit on the number of terms, except for no more than 2 consecutive terms. She takes a break and then can run again (Janklow did this).
we would, but she'd probably overturn the results.
Storm the capital 2.0- fueled by METH!
It's outright bullshit.
You are correct, she never mentioned $77K for how many hours of work, Ok I think I figured it out. 14 hours a day - 7 days a week - $15 an hour pay = $76650 I guess it is doable but unfortunately I will dead before I retired so everything will work out woo hoo.
Absolutely not.
NOEP!
I got hired in state government at a starting salary of $47K two years ago, so I'm not even sure where she's thinking this is remotely true. She's definitely not looking out for state employees, much less anyone else.
Hahahahahaha no
Kristi is lying again. In rural areas with low cost of living, 15 is good pay. More populated areas with higher cost of living/higher pay like Sioux Falls are the only places I could see this being true. I work 70+hr weeks, and don't hit 70.
You mean she's a lying sack of shit? In addition to an adulterer? Who could have guessed....