Sooooo are crowds allowed to cheer yet? I thought Kevin Kelly said they would be able to cheer by the finals.

The crowd was hot for that finish. This sub might not be, but go listen to Hiromu's post match promo again and tell me the crowd "isn't even clapping for him." They are hanging on his every word. Great final, those two always deliver.

Western fans often seem to be completely detached from reality when discussing Japanese pro wrestling.

Interesting that Ace is now in the Bullet Club. Wonder if he will be booked to win the world title from Josh Alexander sooner rather than later.

I don't have any doubt he is the guy they're planning to take the strap from Alexander.

oh my god I was so confused, I really thought you meant Tanahashi!!

They announced him as the winner of BOSJ 27, BOSJ 28 and BOSJ 29. I definitely think that was his final BOSJ

He won BOSJ 25 as well, right?

He did but they only announced the tournaments he won consecutively

ah, okay

I thought we took the Jr belt off Desperado so he could win the whole thing but I GUESS NOT 🙂

I'm a sad man. On the bright side maybe we'll get to see Naito break another trophy.

I seriously should've seen this coming after SHO didn't make it to the finals. God damn, I haven't felt this deflated at an ending since WK12.

Idk Ishimori could've beaten Desperado in his 1st defence then probably makes a second one against Uncle Nobu (who seconds Despy) and finally beats him with a crowd around. But thats just me

One of the things that hurts NJPW the most is that they really really really can never progress or do something different with their junior aces. It wasn’t that KUSHIDA was bland, they’re still doing it to someone thats as out of the box and layered as Hiromu.

KUSHIDA baby where you at

After the Hiromu vs Ishimori match, I guess.

Congrats to Hiromu but this just feels wrong, this was supposed to be Despy's night.

If this leads to Hiromu vs Despy Wrestle Kingdom Night 2 Main Event or something yeah cool. Otherwise right now I'm doing the inpatient wrestling fan thing of complaining.

Unless you're telling me Despy MAIN EVENTS Wrestle Kingdom and wins, no Junior match at WK can outdo a BOSJ win.

Hiromu has mentioned wanting to main event Wrestle Kingdom for years now. Despy and Hiromu have main evented Budokan twice now. And surely if they stick with the two night Kingdom the World Heavyweight Title can't go on last both nights. Jan 5th 2023 Despy and Hiromu main event I say.

I guess you're right. I'm mostly just bitter over the whole Despy losing thing. I think they'd rather the Junior match main event Night 1 if anything. But still, fuck this.

I think Jan 4th would have the Heavyweights go on last as is tradition and maybe this can lead to Jan 5th becoming the Junior Heavyweight showcase. But yeah I agree with you, fuck this. Hiromu just beat Ishimori and now he's facing him again? Why?

[The agenda starts again!!](https://imgur.com/a/hnIJKHg)

hiromu cena or himoru reigns?

Man, I like Hiromu and have no problems with him. That being said, Despy was THE GUY this tour. Man has worked his ass off for years, has gotten very over, has overcome several setbacks, etc. They could’ve thrown him a bone here. Legit makes me kind of sad. But that was probably the intent.

So now what he beats Ishimori AGAIN in 9 days

Honestly I hope that Ishimori keep the title at this point

It's a lose-lose. They both will look like chumps if they lose at Dominion. Ishimori because he lost twice in less than a month to the same guy, Hiromu cos he lost to a guy he already beat

From a storytelling perspective that finish made no sense. With Kanemaru's attack on Hiromu's knee and all the work Despy did on the knee how would Hiromu win?

Same feeling with Okada vs ZSJ. 20+mins working the arm, just for Okada to hit 1 Rainmaker and not even sell the arm.

The crowd isn't even clapping for him. Unironically the worst way to end what I felt was one of the best BOSJs in recent memory.

So Hiromu wins again and ?????? Surely he's been ready to move from Junior Heavyweight for a while now

Drop him Fujinami

Being a despy fan is pain

Even as a huge Hiromu mark I was cheering a bit for Despy there. Sick match. Clearly only KUSHIDA can stop this man please come back.

Despy should have won, but by the same token, he just lost the belt to Ishimori and beat Hiromu at WK. If Hiromu was going to win the whole thing, they should have had ELP go to the finals.

Absolutely should have been Desperado but I mean how often do you get a chance to have someone accomplish a 3-peat?

Is this a new remix of Hiromu's theme?

Nah that was the wrong decision. Fuck that

Wow the Japanese crowd sounded like they actually groaned

Uncle Nobu in shambles like all of us.

Not enough self mask removing for my liking.

Man thought Despy was certain to win too.

Let’s see if I can nap until work now. Have a great day, everyone

And the crowd is deflated :(

At this point, Hiromu is too good for the Junior Heavyweight division.

LIJ needed that.

NJPW always going for the safer choice. Remove those bicycle supports already jesus christ.

I see posts like this but they just spent the last year elevating new champs. What are you talking about

> I see posts like this but they just spent the last year elevating new champs. What are you talking about At the end they always go for the safe bet. Hiromu didn't need that win. Okada didn't need to beat Naito twice.

All wrestling promotions do because they need to draw money But during the pandemic we have had first time reigns from evil, kota, ospreay and shingo And in the junior division despe and eagles

yeah sure, but it feels like the things always stay the same.

Lmao if you are gonna ignore reality sure. Dominion last year Shingo beat Okada as clean as a whistle for the iwgp title when they could have very easily taken the safe route. It's pro wrestling. Tell me a promotion that doesn't make fairly safe choices at the top of the card. It's the way it works. Big stars draw money in high profile positions. Nooj isn't worse than anywhere else

Shingo did what, 3 defenses, with only one being properly worthwhile. If Hiromu weren't injured for 6 months he would have had a longer reign. It's only when Times are desperate that they wanna try something new with the title holders. I don't get your defense about it.

Was shingo supposed to hold the title forever ?

Noooooooooo :(

Excellent match but I wish despe won

Why the hell does he even need 3 in a row he's a made man already without the last 2

...Huh. I love Hiromu, don't get me wrong, but I don't think he needed that win.

Nooooooooo!!!! But DAMN!!!

The crowd didn't even respond to that. That's actual bullshit. This is Okada beating Naito at WK12 levels of bullshit.

I wanted Despy to win, but when did this sub become so vehemently anti-Hiromu?

Hiromu is a man made, he won the tournament 4 times now, Despy needed that win more, Despy is older that Hiromu and ain't going to have as many tournaments left than Hiromj

The sub isn't anti-Hiromu. The sub is pro-Despy, and Despy desperately needed and deserved this.

Most people like Hiromu, but also acknowledge that this BOSJ win was a bit too much.

people are tired to see the same person winning.

Fuck that shit :(

NOBODY COULD STOP HIS VICTORY

Really?

fuck that

I’m so fucking pissed. Hiromu didn’t need that win

Ah fuck

Boooooooooooooooooo

ah jeezo - first Zack now Despy? You're breaking my heart Gedo

fuck off

Noooooooooo wanted despy to win sooo bad FFS

It was the time for Despy, fuck that

Spits on the ground

God DAMMIT

Man fuck off

fuck. bullshit

That's bullshit

FFFFFIUUUUUCCCCKKKKK

Hiromu 316 said I just spat on your dreams

Noooooooooooooo

oh no

How long has this match been

Between 25 and 30 now

Thanks

Does Hiromu have the will of the D?

Not sure, only D we know is Minoru D Suzuki

Better be an L

PLEASE DESPY

Oh man Red Shoes is such a great ref. He has good quirks but doesn't do random stupid actions after every move. Blends into the canvas

COME ON DESPY

YES HOLY SHIT

FIGHT DESPY

Fuck

DESPY

DESPY KICKED OUT OF TIME BOMB 2

Let’s go, Despy!

COME ON DESPY

THATS FUCKING TIME BOMB II

First person to kick out of Time Bomb 2!

Time for time bomb 3.

Imagine if this crowd could cheer

Red Shoes distracted him!

This is great but I'm so stressed

Kanemaru backstage yelling to Despy to lock in a figure 4 and never let go.

Fuck off Hiromu

Ain't going to lie, if Hiromu win after that it feel a bit bullshit

oh hiromu's winning

Noooooooooooooooo

STAY THE FUCK DOWN HIROMU

NO

Pick him up and drop him on his face again!

PINCHE LOCO

Boooooooooooo

Wonder if we may see Despy use a new super finisher if Hiromu kick out of Pinche Loco and get out of Numero Dos

Avalanche Despy-Lock

Probably

Hiromu taking lariat lessons from Shingo

This is getting good But please just win despe

what a set of reversals damn

It makes me so happy to see Jrs add submissions to their arsenal

It's always funny when wrestler can clearly reach the ropes but don't for the dramatic effect

Despe destroy his knee

Hiromu should teach Britt to sell

Hiromu: "It's easy...just take everything for real!"

That Despy dive is soooooooooo crisp

Let’s fucking go, Despy!

Is there a time limit in place here?

No time limit

I guess it has to be no time limit right, they can't both win the tournament?

Yep no time limit

Yeah Hiromu beating Ishimori with The D rather than one of his normal finishers is the big reason why I have doubts over Despy winning this

I hate that you have a point. Uh, maybe they're trying to transition to The D being his main finisher, so Despy will kick out of Time Bomb 2 (which no one else has done before)? A boy can dream.

Despe hates knees

Someone paint Despy like one of those French girls

And bring extra gold paint for the championship, around the waist, like HBK

Attack his neck!

I wish this crowd could cheer

Right, Hiromu has a busted leg from the BOSJ. Yet another reason Despy seriously should win.

Great storytelling that Kanemaru smashed Hiromu's knee, making Despy's submission more effective

If you're a junior in New Japan a knee based submission is probably the highest value move you could have. This division has a pathological hatred of knees.

What now, bitch?

It's time

This match just has to proceed normally to not be like the last New Japan Tournament Final with a 2 time defending champion

Scrapbook says "It's scary that I can't say I hate him".

that's sweet

Too sweet?

I love you Hiromu but for the love of god do the job

I'm getting pretty excited lol Despe can do it

Despy it's your time my man. LFG!!!

It's Rogue Junior Champion Desperado

Gold Despy!

DESPY HOURS ARE IN EFFECT!

This theme will play twice tonight

Loved Kevin pulling a reverse Schiavone with the "Tell a friend that when Dominion has started it is too late for them to sign up!!"

The headset mic to the eyebrow got me

Fujinami's theme is a certified banger

Plz win despe

Wasn't this funky ass music blocked last time? It's great!

FUNKY DRAGON TIME. I don't know why, but I LOVE IT!

English commentary having fun

I've said it before and I'll say it again. My dream is a hair vs mask match at Wrestle Kingdom between these two.

Yeah, I’m up for that as well. Don’t they have a blood feud dating back to Mexico?

Lmao both okada and jay broke character while jay was going for the too-sweet

Aw, missed that

still can't get used to the GOD theme not being tied to Bullet Club

Jay: YOU'RE SMART! YOU KNOW I'M TAKING THAT BELT! Okada: OKAY, FINE! I'M STUPID THEN! I DON'T KNOW THAT! lol

Have I been in the pre-show topic the whole time? 😂

Jay stop harassing the young lions.

Kings

[Here’s a wee discord to talk about NJPW, good show so far.](https://discord.gg/f43PkxGwxV)

Man we have PLENTY of time left for the main event

For a minute I thought Jado was going to hit the Gun Stun

The world isn't ready

I would've been legit impressed if Jado had the hops for that

That was so much fun

Imagine if White just pinned Okada with Blade Buster in a random tag match.

Nononononono!

DOESN'T WORK FOR JADO BROTHER

Marty I'm just disappointed in you for falling for that

Good to see Switchblade is still best pals with Kevin

lol Jay just mocking the fans with the clapping.

Gedo vs Jado main event of Dominion

The biggest rivalry of 2022, Gedo/Jado If we don't get a single match at some point it's criminal

Genuinely, that should open Dominion up this year.