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ich_hab_deine_Nase

Same product, different seller, different price. Nothing special about it. Get the cheaper one.


Ellieconfusedhuman

Keep in mind the cheaper one won't have Australian power socket attachment


Aggravating_Soil3006

I think OP can manage to find a 45W charger for less than $200.


The-Grogan

Just a socket adaptor works fine, I use one myself in AU. The genuine charger can handle 120-240v


Human_Bean0123

Got a $10 UK to aus adapter from kmart for mine


RHINO_Mk_II

KMART is in Australia too?


pollux65

Oh yeah and its VERY popular


F22enjoyer

Its their version of american target. They also have target, but its more like walmart


phormix

LoL. That sounds like a comedy skit > You have KMart in Australia Yup, but it's more like Target > Ah, so you don't have Target, then? Well yeah, but that one is really more like Walmart over here > And no Walmart that side of the pond? We've got that too, yeah. Kinda closer to your dollar-giant but more selection and cleaner > So what about...


RHINO_Mk_II

There were a bunch of K-marts across the American midwest, but they went out of business a little over a decade ago. Might not be the same company, but they were very wal-mart/target like as well.


Supplex-idea

It’s just USB-C anyways, OP likely already has one of such charging cables


SnooDoughnuts5632

Yes but probably not a 45 watt charger. If you don't know 45 w is a PD charger those are the ones if you've ever seen them that have USB C on them If they have a detachable cable unlike the standard USB-A power adapters that are normal. I only own one of them and it's not even my fault. Other than that the only PD compliant charges I have are the ones that came with my Steam Deck and dock.


TheThiefMaster

The Steam deck can be charged from a surprising variety of USB-C chargers, but the simplest option is any USB-C laptop charger if you have one. The Switch charger also works. Or as the other commenter said, you just need a travel socket adapter because the included charger already supports the appropriate voltage.


SnooDoughnuts5632

I have never seen a USBC laptop charger IRL only in YouTube videos. Both my mom and my sister and my dad bought new laptops after the pandemic started And they all came with barrel jacks. While I don't know if a surface go counts I bought one of those and it came with a weird black connector but it is the only device of the four that can charge via USBC If you have the right kind of charger sadly.


TheThiefMaster

Trust me, they do exist - I've got one for my work laptop :) I don't know how much it will affect the rest of the world but the EU is going to be mandating USB-C chargers for laptops going forwards, so they'll get a lot more common in the next decade.


splashbodge

I have one on my work laptop also, and can I just say, while the idea is nice, I dislike it. And I'll tell you why. I've broken 2 chargers now because USB plugs are very thin and flimsy compared to the old barrel connectors of chargers. I have, admittedly stupidly, let my work laptop slide and fall from the couch to the floor twice now, and both times it landed on its side on the plugged in cable and immediately bent the usb plug... Charger broken. It's happened twice now and I've had to go to work twice and get a replacement power brick. Not a replacement cable, no that would be too obvious, Dell in all their wisdom hard wire the usb cable into the brick so you can't just swap in another usb-c cable when it breaks, you need a whole new charger brick. Pretty short-sighted of them. Now it's a work laptop so no big deal not my problem, but a bit annoying for a clumsy small drop that would otherwise never damage the laptop or an old beefy power plug


TheThiefMaster

Admittedly a lot of people wish USB-C came in USB A size, which would be great for laptops. But I have actually had to replace a barrel jack power brick because the pin inside the plug snapped, so they weren't immune to misuse either. As for hard-wiring the cable to the charger - they do that because it's cheaper. You save a plug, a socket, an emarker (cable id chip) and the support requests from people that have used an inadequate replacement cable or lost their cable. It's also how it's expected to be from the decades of barrel jack / proprietary plug laptop chargers.


SnooDoughnuts5632

Well there goes your laptop crashing to the floor when somebody trips over your charger. It also sounds like it would make the laptop more expensive because they'd have to comply with PD charging standards instead of just using a barrel jack.


chuckleh0und

I think most companies will absorb the 0.1¢ difference in cost.


Supplex-idea

Barrel jacks are an old asf standard, it’s time to move forward. Additionally they run just as much risk of pulling your laptop on the floor.


TheThiefMaster

I think the USB-C plug actually comes out more easily than most barrel jacks, and it makes it much easier to use a power bank with a laptop (I've done it!) for when you're away from a charger for a long time. Losing magnetic charging is unfortunate but the vast majority of laptops never included it anyway.


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

Most new thinkpads come with them post-2020.


SnooDoughnuts5632

Well considering my ThinkPad from 2013 still works I'm going to stick with it.


Aat117

Both my older thinkpad T480 and my new X1 have USB-C chargers. Also apple used usb C for a while for their laptops.


SnooDoughnuts5632

Well I'm just saying I the laptops my family bought use normal chargers not USB-C even though they are newer. Aloe I saw someone on Reddit claiming they bought a fairly new laptop like only a few years old and it had an HDD instead of an SSD.


Supplex-idea

PD chargers are pretty common nowadays from what I can tell. Probably since more and more phones are supporting it.


SnooDoughnuts5632

I don't know what you're talking about If anything is happening it's that chargers are getting less and less common in general. When was the last time you bought a phone that came with a charger? Hell even the new Nintendo 3DS XL didn't come with a charger AND it used a proprietary charger not even USB compatible so fuck that. Nintendo's always way ahead of the curb they were the first people to sell a device without a headphone jack (GBA SP).


Supplex-idea

(The 3DS XL released 12 years ago, how is that at all relevant…) I didn’t say modern devices come with chargers, I said more and more devices support PD charging. Therefore way more aftermarket chargers also support PD charging.


SnooDoughnuts5632

I was just trying to show that Nintendo was ahead of the curb. Yeah hopefully more chargers support USB PD but I also hope that you can just charge any device off of the charger. That's the one thing I miss from the old chargers where you could just plug anything into it and it would charge at 5 volts to amps. It did suck that if you wanted to charge faster You had to use the specific charger for your device.


tr_9422

They don't include chargers anymore *because* chargers are common. I have a whole drawer full of them, I don't want more. 45W+ not quite as much, but a decent quality laptop charger from the last 5 years will do it. Or get something like [this](https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-Adapter-PowerPort-MacBook/dp/B07ZCGYP27) at your desk and nightstand because who wants individual power bricks for each gadget? If you're not playing while charging a lower wattage charger will work fine to top it up overnight.


SnooDoughnuts5632

I could have swore that one time I tried charging my Deck with a regular charger and when I woke up the Deck was still charging.


tr_9422

Comparing battery capacity, an iPhone 15 is 3349 mAh, and Steam Deck is 5313 mAh. About 60% bigger than the phone battery, but 30% smaller than a 2022 iPad's 7606 mAh battery. I wouldn't use a 5W charger, but I think you could get by with a 10-15W charger overnight.


Ellieconfusedhuman

I'm sure they could as well, they just might want to know they need an adapter instead of being excited then disappointed they couldn't immediately play with it


Arkanta

I don't even use a 45W usb-c charger with it, I charge it overnight so I don't care


ManOfChaos199932

But if you want to play some demanding games, your deck will discharge faster than it is charging


TheThiefMaster

The Steam Deck only uses about half of that at full clip, so you should be able to sustain it off a lower charger. An 18W phone charger (common) might not be able to charge it faster than it's draining when using it full tilt but it would still quadruple its runtime, which should be enough, and then can charge it up when you take breaks for lunch/dinner/sleep/work/etc. Or you can set it to 10W TDP limit (which works out around 17.5W when screen etc is added) and run forever off an 18W charger.


Arkanta

This, thank you. Maybe it won't charge but it won't discharge either Anyway I just don't use my deck that way: I don't like the max fan noise and don't play long enough sessions that would make me want to charge while playing. Heck I mostly play in places where I don't have a socket that close to me anyway If you do that, by all means use a 45W charger, all I'm saying is that you can perfectly live off a slower charger


ManOfChaos199932

I have a 120w charger and it still goes down slowly while playing elden ring on uncapped FPS, unless it's the original charger


TheThiefMaster

Maybe it just doesn't support the power profile the SD wants? Or maybe the "120W" is a total across multiple ports and its single port output is much lower? What is it?


ManOfChaos199932

My block can easily go 80W when charging my power bank, I'm pretty sure it is incompatible charging technology. Same way I cannot warp charge (45W) my phone with this charger


TheThiefMaster

The Steam Deck charges using a 15V 3A PD2.0 profile. Maybe your brick doesn't support 15V? Or Isn't PD 2.0? Or you're using an A->C cable, which are limited to 12W outside of proprietary protocols (like Xaomi).


Arkanta

Sure, but I do not use my deck that way. If I play a demanding game, I play for 1h/1h30 and take a break So you can see if you actually need such a powerful charger in the first place and delay the purchase. If you can live off your existing charger, it's a win


havok_

I use my MacBook charger


lin1960

A socket converter should not be cost $200


Philderbeast

neither will the more expensive one.


Monoraptor

Nor will the more expensive one. The SD isn’t officially sold on Australia.


Shu7Down

I bought mine in Kogan and they sent me one for free, I think they legally have to.


Monoraptor

Just an international adapter?


Shu7Down

No, they sent me a Kogan 45W USB-C Charger


SoulManeger8922

Australian power socket costs 100~$? If no then buy cheaper one, I guess🤷‍♂️


ChickensCanEat

Thanks, I assumed that was the case but I wanted to double check. I will be buying the $1200 one. 👍 (Also did not expect that many people to reply 😭)


Rorusbass

We are all chanting “one of us” while you are sleeping


gaspadlo

whilst being upside down


TheUndertows

Still am


siamesekiwi

WE WILL MAKE THEM ONE OF US! A LOVING CUP! A LOVING CUP! WE ACCEPT THEM, ONE OF US. WE ACCEPT THEM, ONE OF US. GOOBLE-GOBBLE, GOOBLE-GOBBLE Note: [Context](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Bnk6VU53Y)


Imaginary-Problem914

Check Amazon too. Mine was slightly cheaper than that 


PrincessBabyDave

I think it's due to the Big W Market thing, like these aren't actually stocked by Big W (same with Kogan), they're imported. I think it's probably just 2 different sellers selling the same product for a different price.


Maddieboy2

The cheaper one says Gaming on it, clearly the more expensive one isn’t for gaming.


NessaBaa

Don't know, but how has Valve still not figured out sales to the rest of the world? Put it officially on Amazon if nothing else


Kristosh

It's not JUST sales though is it? If Valve sells SD in AUS, then they also need to be able to warranty, service, customer support, logistic supply, comply with all commercial laws and regulations, as well as regulatory sales tax and report all aspects of selling in AUS. If they can't adequately provide the above, then they shouldn't sell there. Some person expecting adequate support and warranty coverage won't be served well if Valve can't execute on the above and then that will reflect poorly on them. I assumed they'd rather not sell in countries where they can't meet expectations, than to just sell the most SD's possible right?


coominati

Won't speak for the rest of the world but for Australia they won't want to comply with Australian Consumer Law. Especially for faulty products. [https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/problem-with-a-product-or-service-you-bought](https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/problem-with-a-product-or-service-you-bought)


MildLoser

the eu has the same sort of laws and the steam deck is sold there, so thats not true.


Marflow02

They sell in Germany, which has was stricter Rules


Deadarchimode

In EU the rules are strict just like on Australia. I think it have something to do with the courts they had against VALVE and they don't want a repeat of it.


ProfessionalEye4318

Valve wouldn't sell directly in Aus-instead it'd be through an agreement with a partner, previously that was EB Games with things like the Index VR kit.


kron123456789

My guess is that they're doing it to minimise the impact of scalpers. And so that they don't have to deal with retail cut, which allowed them to price it as low as they did.


NessaBaa

The scalpers were mostly a problem during the beginning, it's readily available now. And that's true, but it's not like handling it on their own is free either.


Vagabond_Sam

The entire Australian Market is currently scalpers. They’re just big enough businesses to be called grey imports


cosmylk

As an Aussie who has bought a SD I'd check the sellers terms and conditions, because you'll need to contact them for any issues or things like that. Hopefully nothing goes wrong but if you want warranty you'll need to make sure the seller covers it and won't charge a restock fee. (I know some do when I researched mine) I also bought mine directly from Dicksmith (Kogan) because they covered any issues and stuff.


MisterFixit_69

Those are way overpriced


ChickensCanEat

It’s due to the Australia debuff


MisterFixit_69

Big oof


GroovyTony-

The difference is seller 2 is a bigger asshole


Mfh998

They are the same .


Mfh998

Specs wise at least


Sufficient_Room2619

The more expensive one is from The Gamesmen, a known reseller with good reviews, and it comes with an Australian power cord, and 12 months warranty. I can't remember the name of the other, cheaper reseller, but their reputation on Trustpilot is awful. I bought mine from The Gamesmen and it got to me in perfect condition in just over 24 hours.


juicyman69

512gb OLED AU$972 1TB $1198 with code HGTECH [https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/325895051735](https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/325895051735)


Toothpaste_on_pizza

/u/ChickensCanEat check out ozbargain for deals on the Deck OLED. I purchased a 512gb deck oled for around $850 and then got a 2tb western digital ssd off aliexpress. Worked out to under $1k for a 2tb deck oled. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/steam-deck-oled https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/western-digital-pc-sn740


No_Bad1844

Those prices are outrageous. Australia are you alirght?


ChickensCanEat

No, we use Monopoly money here :(


No_Bad1844

So it's 1.5 AU per 1 USD. Is the rest part of the shipping cost or is that separate?


x9097

Some would be 10% VAT, right?


Exeledus

Why is it so expensive? I got mine for about $700...


ChickensCanEat

It’s the OLED 1TB version and it’s in Australian money (worth less than Monopoly money) also price inflation bc it’s hard to find in Australia (well where I am anyway)


Ayyzeee

Same here in Malaysia. People inflate the price because they would get most profit and the importing it. I do wish Valve sell it everywhere in the world so I don't have to deal with price of the OLED version being $1k to $1.2k


SneedleRifle

They're probably covering import tax right?


Ayyzeee

Oh that, you have to pay extra when you went to buy the thing, so you paid say $1k then few dollars for the sale tax plus with the delivery fee which is worst than FedEx because nobody at their warehouse organise properly.


Advos_467

Same here in Singapore. At least I got it on a sale from a reseller, which I just learnt is still cheaper than buying it in say japan for example lol


Ayyzeee

How much you paid for yours?


Advos_467

About 900SGD for the 1TB oled iirc


Ayyzeee

Dang, that's really cheap. For me to get 1TB OLED is like around $1k SGD, now I really need to go to Singapore to get mine.


Advos_467

Yeah 1k sgd is like the standard price. I got mine of lazada lol, maybe try there during a sale


Imaginary-Problem914

It’s the USD to AUD conversion rate plus a little extra for the reseller + the 2 extra times it has to be shipped. 


Exeledus

That seems like a lot...


Imaginary-Problem914

$700 USD is $1050 AUD. So you are paying about $200AUD to have someone ship it to the other side of the planet to a warehouse in Australia and then again to ship it to your house, and then to take on the legal responsibility of taking returns for defects. 


Exeledus

Thank you for taking the time to explain, I appreciate it. Edit: Man you genuinely thank a person and people downvote you for it, how lovely.


thalius69

I noticed the same thing on big w site. They also have a 1tb oled listed twice for different prices but one says it has 16 gig ram while the other says nothing about ram. As far as I can see the descriptions are the same expect one lists the 16 gig ram in the description specs.


Glitchlotl

One is a handheld console and the other one is a handheld Gaming console


EnvironmentalAd1006

Holy shit that’s expensive. Even considering conversion rate that’s wild. Is this standard for Australians wanting to get consoles?


tooktheduck

Sadly, yes. Everything costs more here and it's very sad


kram1973

One is $215 more than the other


AdPlannedpocolaspe

The vendor lol. If you google price it's a good way to get a spread of pricing but it will give you duplicates


Iron-Ham

TIL Australia pays a >30% markup on Steam Deck. I cannot imagine that shipping from the US (or other country) to Australia amounts to that much of the cost! For reference, a 1TB OLED in the USA is 975AUD!


ah208

$1200 dollarydoos?


grepje

One is clearly a Gaming Console, while the other one is just a regular Console.


Konarkanuck

Normally, at least here in Canada, when there is this much of a price difference on what appears to be the same model of something, I'd start looking into the detail of it the item is being sold directly from the company who owns the website or a 3rd party marketplace seller. An example using your image would be if I was dealing with Best Buy and the listing for 1295 said "Sold and shipped by Best Buy" while the 1509 listing said "Sold and Shipped by \[other company name here\] In the case of the example you are showing, I can't confirm this to be the situation as the photo does not show the details of the listing, but if both are 1TB Storage OLED screen Steam Deck models, as it appears to be, the difference would have to either be the seller information or potentially the processor/ram is different on one of the models. The other possible option would be the extras that come with each listed option. \*Edit- Having looked at both listings by pulling up the website, both are Market Place sellers, but each seller has set their own price to sell it. Seller "The Gamesman" is priced at 1509 while seller "Tristar" is pricing at 1295. Save yourself some funds and go with the lower price, I say.


VironLLA

there aren't any models with different CPUs or RAM configs


Konarkanuck

See My edit as to why they are priced differently.


Unlikely_Link8595

do not spend over a grand for a steam deck....


marrabld

Don't be an arsehole


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Pangtundure

Exactly same, sadly can't buy it through valve


cee-jay-bee

More expensive one is sold by Gamesmen, cheaper one by Tristar. The one on Amazon AU is also sold by Tristar.


TheCartoonFan

I've wanted to know this too because I'd like to buy an OLED eventually and give a mate my LCD deck.


PrecipitousPlatypus

Big W has some inflated prices, I would consider something like Amazon.


Obake_

They’re not great prices. Unless you really want the anti glare screen and 2-piece case, and want one now, I would keep an eye on ozbargain and get the 512GB OLED for under $1k, sometimes closer to $900’ish, and spend the difference (~$220) on a 2TB SSD and upgrade yourself. [ozbargain](https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Steam%20deck%20oled%20type%3Aozbdeal)


MFNoire

One is more expensive


likeonions

It has a different picture on the screen


Ok-Racisto69

Holy fuck, what is that pricing? Can't you travel to some nearby country like Japan and buy it?


Materiou

I bought my Steam deck directly from "Steam", also OLED with 1TB of storage. But for me it only cost €620.


-_CanisLupusLupus_-

You won’t get it if you order through big w. Tried that a month ago, my order got cancelled within a few days then it took about a week to get my money back. Bought it from dick smiths and it turned up in a couple days. As some of the others have said, you will need an adapter for the plug. Mine had a UK plug


Aggravating-Bus3326

it should be Diffferent seller


SiwyKtos

1 is scamming you more


Scoooooooots

$214


Raskrads

The owner of one of them is more delusional than the other


k00ve

Hey brother. Don't buy it from there. I got mine from kogan and they offer an extended warranty for 3 or 5 years at a small cost. I heard from another Aussie that they dropped theirs after a year or so and it was a very easy exchange. Go with kogan over some Amazon reseller.


jessejones1

The right one is slightly more ridicuously priced than the left unrealistically expensive piece of hardware


buddha_mjs

Well with one you’re paying 3 times too much and with the other you’re paying 4 times too much.


ThisJoeLee

I don't know what the difference is, but I can tell you what they have in common.


gzusburrito

Can you not just buy it through steam?


Kaiyn

$214.95


kerrwashere

Why are these $1000


Scoooooooots

Kangaroo Bucks


kerrwashere

I want kangaroo bucks I work for a kangaroo company


Awaken_Magic

Are you telling me for real that those cost THAT MUCH! in Australia? holy f\*ck, that it just sad. how can It go from $549 to 1295-1509? or are those just scalpers, scamming, I'm from UK so don't know if Australia has some taxes of something.


SnooDoughnuts5632

Shouldn't you buy a steamed deck off of The steam website itself? Or are those prices lower than Steam? I don't know if Valve will cover RMAs if you have any problems with one bought from a different website so that's my biggest concern.


Imaginary-Problem914

Valve doesn’t sell them in Australia. You have to buy them through resellers.  The reseller is then responsible for complying with Australian consumer law for returns. 


SnooDoughnuts5632

I thought Valve sold the Steam Deck in every first world country Am I wrong?


Imaginary-Problem914

Yes, you are wrong. They only sell it in a very limited set of countries. Everywhere else has to buy it through resellers. 


SnooDoughnuts5632

I still don't understand why?


D3rP4nd4

Why cant you buy it through Valve ?


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

A question Australians have been asking for a few years now.


doenss

It looks like the cheaper one is for gaming the other one isnt ,...


ChickensCanEat

Then what does the other one do.


doenss

Light computer workloads idk i was being sarcastic


Fit-Rate-3906

Based on the photo and using my talent of perception. I would say one is on the left and the other is on the right.


Squishyspud

One is a console, and the other is a gaming console.


Mattindenhut

Easy, ones a handheld console, and the other is a handheld gaming console. Hope that clears things up.


kobrakaan

Neither of them are sold directly by Valve can you not buy them in Australia from Valve direct?


ProfessionalEye4318

Nope and that wasn't even an option with Valve hardware in the past (when they partnered to sell through EB Games).


fl3600

I just got the LED 64GB, chucked the 512 GB SD card there and it is all good to go, bought it for $5XX with eBay plus special and going to claim GST too as I am travelling, and this will bring the price down to $47X. The price you are looking for is enough for me to buy 3X steam decks!


tooktheduck

64GB LCD + 512GB SD does not equal 1TB OLED for many reasons


fl3600

I am also saving about $800 for the Legion Go when they are having a sale (eventually), if you like to just have one 512GB OLED it is up to you. So ultimately I will have one Steam Deck, and one Legion go.


tooktheduck

OK? Getting a Legion Go as well still doesn't change the fact that whacking an SD card in an LCD Deck doesn't make it comparable to the OLED model...


fl3600

Sure, as long as you are happy. ;-)