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tiagogamer04

Omg, is the 024 spike factory?!?!


murbed1

We are nerfing it into oblivion with this one🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️


tiagogamer04

We are still op after the 1000th nerf with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥


TheUmbraGaming

Haha would be a shame if we removed all his pierce!!


tiagogamer04

-NinjaKiwi (probably)


The_FreshSans

Spike factory placing down 70 billion spikes so it doesn't matter


Onepunchmanthehero21

We delaying this update because of balancing reasons with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥


Western-Alarming

I just love how they every update buff top path and nerf bottom path with middle path getting nice life changes


5-0-0_Glue_Monkey

I’ve been looking for that machine, he’s been missing the last few games


tiagogamer04

Below stole it with confusion jester bombs


5-0-0_Glue_Monkey

Damn you Below


DaBomb1910

Big sad


Somethings_in_my_ahh

We are getting perma-spike with this one‼️‼️


TheBased_Individual

Looks more like an Engineer than Engineer itself


Pietrek2810

so now we are going to have double engineer gaming


[deleted]

So uhh. Sierd how trap towers are so uncommon in roblox. Btd6 and tower heros have em


SobtastixV2

tower heroes’s trapper is one of the opiest shits ever


[deleted]

El goblino is powerful


SobtastixV2

17 second stun with being able to deal more than 500k dmg


Ashamed-Comb7897

My brother


[deleted]

DANDORI


Ashamed-Comb7897

Jesus christ that was fast


DaBomb1910

He had found his brother, you expected it to be slow?


mercury_reddits

TBZ does have one, but he's not exactly fantastic


Aidoomed

This one is particularly one of the first tower ideas I (informally) presented when I joined the team. I wasn't involved in the creative process whatsoever nor the testing thus far, but I'm infinitely excited to have a tower that sets stuff up on the lanes and hope you all are too :D


SobtastixV2

that’s cool did you take any inspiration from any other td games?


Aidoomed

I originally presented a Dog House to Below that'd place a stack of dogs on the lane nearby. SUPER unrefined, but solely conceptual haha


SobtastixV2

Animal abuse on my tower defense?!


Infshadows

It does look good.


SummonerBossTDS

Why'd you pin this post tho


SobtastixV2

new tower leak gets pinned I guess


Shadowsans99

Nice


Xe0nex

THERE WILL BE A TRAPPER TOWER??


EpicPlayer_17

YEAH BABY


AutumnZeus72226

the spike factory is real!!!!


Annylicious

Will need video proof !


SobtastixV2

just you wait, I will do it IF it comes our balanced


Pietrek2810

HOLD UP OTHER MODE THATN AIDOOMED ON TDS SUB!?! IMPOSSIBLE


mercury_reddits

I honestly don't have hope for this tower Knowing below, it will either be the most broken shit ever or something completely useless that will end up unused in like a week


JackO_kid

Candy corn from flavor frenzy


SobtastixV2

or El goblino from tower heroes


Boxlixinoxi

I wonder what he will look like if he was black or aisan


Empty_Fold175

Woah another original tower from our beloved game tds? It was totaly c̶o̶p̶i̶e̶d̶ an original idea! Tbz trapper,024 spike factory from btd6 and tdx mine layer? Never heard of em!


PatrykPer132

Yeah probably more inspired by the spike factory, but mine layer being in tdx is probably the reason they are adding this, to compete with tdx


ExtraThings8888

Oh come on with that shit.


FuckIceMonkey

It’s a very unoriginal idea, I thought of a trapping tower all by myself, it places dynimite on the track and it will all ignite once you press an ability.


ExtraThings8888

Sure, and ULTRAKILL is ripping of Doom for both having demons as main enemies. Terraria is ripping off Minecraft for having blocks and zombies. In fact, why not? Hazbin Hotel is ripping off Christian beliefs for having Hell in it! Everything is "just another rip-off" in this immature community. Minigunner is ripping off this, Freezer is ripping off that. It's a Tower Defense game, spell it out. Only so many towers can be thought of. One thing having something similar to an older thing doesn't automatically mean it's a direct copy. It's so childish to see it this way. Yeah, sure, it is similar to other trap-laying towers, but here's the thing, it will interact with enemies much differently than those other games' trapping towers do. BTD6's health system is based off of individual layers, which the spikes can weaken down. TBZ's Trapper interacts with certain enemies in different ways because the spikes can do more damage to bigger enemies. TDS's future trapping tower will interact differently because the enemy system is very linear. Enemies don't have "types," they only have more or less health than others, and only move faster or slower than others. My speculation is it will have electric spikes that slow enemies, which is an original idea compared to other TD games, especially considering the blue engineering outfit the trapping tower is wearing. By your logic, TBZ and TDX would both be ripping off the Spike Factories from BTD because of the mines. Yet you seem to have no issue with those? And plus, TDX is really really young compared to TDS, TBZ, and especially the BTD series, INCLUDING BTD6. You could say TDX Juggernaut rips off TDS Minigunner, you could say TDX Ranger rips off TDS Soldier. TD games are going to take ideas from one another, you and every other TDS fan should understand this by now. Nothing is a "rip-off" unless it's basically just a carbon copy. If it has variations in the way it works, it is not a "rip-off," it is an original tower with individual systems and interactions.


FuckIceMonkey

Fair point, I’m sorry


ExtraThings8888

It's fine. I used to think the same thing in all honesty. Then you grow up and you realize that nothing is original. It's a lot easier and comfortable when you realize that. No, this is not condoning straight up plagiarism. If you just steal a whole idea and take it for your own, that IS stealing, and in that case, it really IS a rip-off. There's a fine line between "inspired" and "plagiarised"


DaBomb1910

You make a great point, and I’m sorry to do this, but TDS does have zombie types… Balloon zombie, lead zombies, warden, molten zombies, etc.


ExtraThings8888

That's fair enough. It's just the towers I wish people would stop blaming for constant copying.


DaBomb1910

Same


DaBomb1910

I don’t care how ppl react to this, but I say they should add heroes kinda like in BTD6 just to spice up the gameplay and add an extra thing people can use for strats. Also I tried the new tower and honestly it ain’t that bad. The only thing I gotta say though, it needs skins because the one it has right now doesn’t really fit the whole zombie apocalypse vibe.


mercury_reddits

Homie TBZ trapper scales off of enemy HP


ExtraThings8888

That's uh, what I said?


Atomic_3439

Calm down man, everything has its inspiration.


person15342

it's literally one of the most common tower ideas, tds is allowed to use concepts already done before, why the hell are you trying to gatekeep concepts for towers that are extremely common.


angels_team

Bruh shut up


Acrobatic-Mode3379

Hardcore or event. Call it.


Kanji_alt

coins


Infshadows

Hopefully, I don’t feel like grinding another 1500 gems when I’m finished getting engi


No-Tear940

Zombies: Yow! Who tf put those there?! the spike tower: Heh…


Quincy_Hater

0-2-5 spike factory hell yeah


Infshadows

More like 024


Spiritual_Spinach273

its obvious its supposed to be a spike factory thing but, i see the ninja monkey caltrops with it more tbh


TheUmbraGaming

Perma caltrops 🔥


Kitten_Co

Idk I just hope it's actually good and not boring or bad. I haven't been excited for an update in like a year. Well I'm not excited for this one I just hope they will actually make a good update that is like the 2022 updates again.


FancyThePant

The new tower gonna be either absolutely op or the shittiest release ever. Like most tower defense game have these kind of mechanic. For example in tbz, the trapper is absolutely dog water, make it one of the most forgetable tower in the game, In tdx, mine layer on release was not that good, but the moment they buff it, it got stronger at dealing with boss. Here another one, btd6 spactory (not really roblox but who care), on release top path spactory is one of the worst upgrade if not the worst in the game, more than 100k and cant do crap and then there bottom path spac which is really strong in insta kill BAD and clean up ceramic. (Srr for the bad english)


SobtastixV2

another OP case can be El goblino from th, he can stun for 17 seconds and can deal 20% dmg to anything if you use his ability (let’s say there is a boss with 1M hp, when you use it they will have 800k)


Pu5t4t9

I swaer i felt like i saw this in a worlf where there is monkeys and they pop bloon to win


Bunny_Studiostiktok

Probably a dream


Pu5t4t9

Yeah


PatrykPer132

Mmmm seems a bit familier, *cough* *cough* mine layer *cough* also trapper from tower blitz sorta


SobtastixV2

candycorn from ff and el goblino from th


Infshadows

Or evo site guard from SCPTD.


mercury_reddits

And spactory from BTD


LuigiReddtier

Lil bro is NOT trapper from tbz 💀


Infshadows

No pebbles for you, I feel this might just be a copy of tdx


SobtastixV2

literally every td game has a trapping tower


Infshadows

Yea ik


Ursociallife2

fr tds copy tdx!!1!! ​ this tower is a staple in td games....such as BTD6 and tbz we could argue that tdx copied btd6 spike factory


Infshadows

That goes down a whole line of who copied who then.


murbed1

Literally trapper from fun zone td


Rouguezs

NOT THE BLOONS TOWER DEFENSE 7 SPIKE FACTORY.


Western-Alarming

It's the one from blitz that very similar to that of Bloons tower defense that it's very similar to Lego pieces


krw2008

It's Rizz layer from tdx but in tds


Pietrek2810

tower blitz trapper has entered the chat


LionEclipse

I wonder where this idea came from 🤔


SobtastixV2

literally almost every td game has one and they had to add one too


ExtraThings8888

That's what I'm fuckin saying. This immature ass community loses its shit when a tower has slight semblance or similar gimmicks to another game.


SobtastixV2

Y’know, if that was the case then tbz stole it from btd, flavor frenzy stole from tbz, tower heroes stole it from ff, and tdx stole it from th like almost all popular td games has one, but when tds makes one it’s a copy


PatrykPer132

Look, i know tower defense concepts are uncopyrightable and also calling something slightly simular a copy is quite idiotic. But this is obviously trying to compete with tdx's mine layer, think about it. Tds realising weekly updates + the cryomancer tower being added, adding new QOL updates into the game to make it seem better then tdx.


ExtraThings8888

Is that so? Then TDS is clearly doing better. It's just good business. If you like TDX, cool, good, it's not an awful game, even if I personally don't like it's pace. But TDS has been making better updates as evident by TDS still getting over double players compared to TDX, on top of just being older and having a semi-loyal veteran base. Unless Below fucks up big time, such as serious allegations (proved true) or a dogshit update so horrible it scares away even veterans, I don't see TDS losing the 3rd place spot in Roblox TD games, below All Star TD and fucking skibidi toilet. People's love and respect for GDI was a pretty good kickstart to the game. Apparently though, a famous person owning a game doesn't always equal success. Even I hate to see it fall below TDS, but once again... It's just good business.


Infshadows

I mean you can’t really make it original too, all of it would really be the same.


Moutonoulebgalt

Are they copying tdx at this point?


SobtastixV2

For the billionth time Trapping towers are not Tdx exclusive


Ursociallife2

tds copy tdx!!!11!!!!! ​ (ignore all other similarities between towers in all td games)


TheSurgeinator

Mine layer rip off fr fr ripped off two games 😂


SobtastixV2

laying traps is not exclusive to tdx


Frequent_Chest7575

with your logic tdx juggernaut is a rip off of tds minigunner


TheUmbraGaming

No no even better. With that logic the entirety of tdx is just tds and tbz clone 🙏


TheSurgeinator

They are all copies of rampart actually.


TheSurgeinator

Actually no my logic would then be a rip off of tower battles minigunner, TDS didn't come first.


bigchungus69419

no use cuz its not 025 spike factory


wtf_is_context

DOIT


Altroux

That towers looks too damn goofy for tds's art style.


CrimsonWitchOfFlames

Hazards are being introduced to the meta? DEPLOY THE HEAVY DUTY BOOTS


Duck_Lover_08

I hope he'll have explosive mines at level 4(or 5), would be pretty cool(and original)


superoli64

Bloons spike factory


OutsideTheDoor-II

below please that would be funny asf


Average-Pyro_main

bob the builder


UndertalerobloxfanAA

spike trap


RabbidYoshi9

And still no hacker?


PitFailedRead

Final upgrade gonna be called eternal roadblock or something instead of perma spike


Mountain-Insect-1867

Everyone seems excited,but not me,since it's probably gonna be another gem cost tower/hardcore tower, I mean all the purchasable towers that got added recently (engi and Necro) cost gems.


Wonderingbean

A new tower that’s not an event tower??????


ColorIsSomwhere

I USE STEALTH ROCK


Unable-Mongoose775

Tbh, my brain is saying this is gonna be a hardcore tower even tho it doesn't look like it, but uhhh, random guess? (Crazy)


nimjabomber64

I hope it doesn't end up like freezer, a good tower that is outclassed and rarely never used due to it not doing enough damage or something like that Then again freezer rework released when there were like 3 freezers but better


Bubthepikmin9056

trapper from towa blit 😲😲😱😱😱


Pietrek2810

why am I getting tower blitz trapper flashbacks, imagine if this tower is as garbage as trapper in tower blitz, that would be history repeating itself XD


robertlox_e

I'm more interested in getting a baseplate map


Alexius_Nextail

New tds tower vs the Rizz Layer, epic death battle


Pietrek2810

![gif](giphy|1zJUcoB5R7oA6llWYm|downsized) \*tower blitz trapper has entered the chat


poyat01

Get pinned


HookBot12

If this happens to be a hardcore tower, then I doubt that it'll cost more than accelerator or engineer


MrGuy419_68

That’s just the 004 spike factory in btd6


username12900

Holy shit permaspike


GlobalPicture2411

Make it a hardcore tower 🙏


Pietrek2810

its a coin tower, becouse there is no way there will sell us a guy that places some spikes as hardcore tower


GlobalPicture2411

They made a dude that summons graves that barley do any damage as a hardcore tower,


Pietrek2810

necromancer is an exclusive halloween tower, he is only avaible during halloween, thats why he costs gems (he isn't supposed to be on sale rn, thats a bug)


GlobalPicture2411

Ohhhhh didn’t know it was a limited


thisusernameismin

Permaspike


Fastzi

Man they could've at least make it not look like humanized 0-2-4 spike factory


Basic_Cat_BattleCats

This new tower is going to prob cost coins because it wont be that op and we are still waiting for the hacker tower that will be hardcore coins


Basic_Cat_BattleCats

Or a event that would be extremely unlikely


Basic_Cat_BattleCats

I am always right