Holy shit I repressed that memory lol. Burning your entire MP bar with everything on cooldown just to keep the tank alive on pre-patch AST sure was great, haha.
Honestly some of the most fun I've had in the game
I landed in a mt gulg as a dps with a 3 ultimate raiders premade, we didn't wipe but the tank was half a gcd away from dying basically the entire pre-first boss pulls, and not because healer was DPSing.
Having no barriers there allows some really scary pulls.
To clarify my gear was a half tome gear/have dungeon gear from just doing daily roulettes. The healer inspected my gear at the start and just flat out refused to play.
(I also know how to press CDs, we replaced that WHT with a AST and they kept 4k dps while healing me just fine)
I leveled up every dow/dom class, and never had any problems at 70-79 bracket with normal scaevan gear.
I mean, difference between i390 and i405 is really negligible, and it shouldn’t make any difference in there.
Lol someone did something similar to me when I was leveling my PLD. My gear was not that great bc I didn't want to waste time at the marketboard etc. As a WHM main I was just like lolol ok kid git gud
There's nothing wrong with Augmented Scaevan gear at lv77. Augmented Scaevan gear is better than lv78 white NQ gear. If you're unlucky with dungeon drops or skip a dungeon with roulettes the only way of gearing up is to buy expensive HQ white gear off the MB or crafting it yourself. Both options are a waste of time and gil.
>Augmented Scaevan gear is better than lv78 white NQ gear.
It's also NQ Gear. You stop using that for Stats at Lv50 *at the latest*, so that's really not saying much.
Augmented Scaevan certainly IS fine at 77 though, that's definitively true.
Unlucky or not a tank can instant queue for these dungeons. 2-3 runs per level will get you 3 pieces each level with the 100% drop in your inventory and that’s not including any RNG drops.
Do you really think anyone sane would queue up for a lv75 dungeon on a lvl77 character to upgrade most of their gear from ilvl400 to ilvl406 because of a trash healer that genuinely believes the 6 ilvls make a massive difference?
b-but that's how daddyP designed the games progression! you can't move on to the next dungeon before you farmed all your gear from the previous one! otherwise that wpuld be disrespecting the content!!
Or you could level yourself all the way to 80 wearing the stuff you already have and the stuff the rest of the dungeons drop your way in the same time it would take you to fully farm those minor upgrades.
I can understand if it's a tank wearing Shire gear in Doma Castle or Castrum Abania, but this is a ShB leveling dungeon. The stat power creep isn't that tangible you can pretty much use Augmented Scaevan all the way to lvl 80 without issues.
Aug scavean is 400, and so are fun mehg drops.
Lv75 gear is already 406, outperforming tome gear.
Edit: since people are waking up and they see this post before the reply further below in the chain, I'm just stating the matter of fact, not expressing an opinion on whether or not you should farm.
Even the body is only 17 defense higher and 4 vitality more. Yeah,it adds up over pieces, but it's not like in Stormblood where the 6 item level difference between Augmented Shire and Nomad gear is 130 defense and 8 vitality on the body.
Yes, but expecting people to farm the Level 75 dungeon until they're fully geared before stepping foot into the level 77 dungeon is ridiculous.
It's a fucking leveling dungeon, not raid tier.
on Malikah's well? There's only 1 group that does enough damage to even think about the gear being a problem (big pull before boss 2)
These people should have seen DF in the first days with people wall pulling Mt Gulg in i400 with some thrown in dungeon drops
Holy shit I repressed that memory lol. Burning your entire MP bar with everything on cooldown just to keep the tank alive on pre-patch AST sure was great, haha. Honestly some of the most fun I've had in the game
I landed in a mt gulg as a dps with a 3 ultimate raiders premade, we didn't wipe but the tank was half a gcd away from dying basically the entire pre-first boss pulls, and not because healer was DPSing. Having no barriers there allows some really scary pulls.
I'm so used to barriers I often end up stopping after three packs then carry on and there's only one and I'm like "Well, shit."
At least you had i400 people. Most of my group's were i395
Am I high Is the boss not spinning
To clarify my gear was a half tome gear/have dungeon gear from just doing daily roulettes. The healer inspected my gear at the start and just flat out refused to play. (I also know how to press CDs, we replaced that WHT with a AST and they kept 4k dps while healing me just fine)
I leveled up every dow/dom class, and never had any problems at 70-79 bracket with normal scaevan gear. I mean, difference between i390 and i405 is really negligible, and it shouldn’t make any difference in there.
To be honest you should atleast augment the gear lol.
Lol someone did something similar to me when I was leveling my PLD. My gear was not that great bc I didn't want to waste time at the marketboard etc. As a WHM main I was just like lolol ok kid git gud
I’m with the healer here. Go properly gear yourself.
There's nothing wrong with Augmented Scaevan gear at lv77. Augmented Scaevan gear is better than lv78 white NQ gear. If you're unlucky with dungeon drops or skip a dungeon with roulettes the only way of gearing up is to buy expensive HQ white gear off the MB or crafting it yourself. Both options are a waste of time and gil.
He's not even using augmented Scaevan, it's not a disaster, but not augmenting the gear is just lazy.
>Augmented Scaevan gear is better than lv78 white NQ gear. It's also NQ Gear. You stop using that for Stats at Lv50 *at the latest*, so that's really not saying much. Augmented Scaevan certainly IS fine at 77 though, that's definitively true.
Unlucky or not a tank can instant queue for these dungeons. 2-3 runs per level will get you 3 pieces each level with the 100% drop in your inventory and that’s not including any RNG drops.
Do you really think anyone sane would queue up for a lv75 dungeon on a lvl77 character to upgrade most of their gear from ilvl400 to ilvl406 because of a trash healer that genuinely believes the 6 ilvls make a massive difference?
b-but that's how daddyP designed the games progression! you can't move on to the next dungeon before you farmed all your gear from the previous one! otherwise that wpuld be disrespecting the content!!
Imagine complaining about 6ilvls of gear.
people can skip those dunegons with roulettes and being ilvl 415 vs ilvl 400 aint gunna make a huge difference
Or you could level yourself all the way to 80 wearing the stuff you already have and the stuff the rest of the dungeons drop your way in the same time it would take you to fully farm those minor upgrades.
I can understand if it's a tank wearing Shire gear in Doma Castle or Castrum Abania, but this is a ShB leveling dungeon. The stat power creep isn't that tangible you can pretty much use Augmented Scaevan all the way to lvl 80 without issues.
If the tank actually was lvl77, and with poetics gear, it's ok. Lvl70 poetics gear is usually similar level to 73-75 dungeon drop.
Aug scavean is 400, and so are fun mehg drops. Lv75 gear is already 406, outperforming tome gear. Edit: since people are waking up and they see this post before the reply further below in the chain, I'm just stating the matter of fact, not expressing an opinion on whether or not you should farm.
Even the body is only 17 defense higher and 4 vitality more. Yeah,it adds up over pieces, but it's not like in Stormblood where the 6 item level difference between Augmented Shire and Nomad gear is 130 defense and 8 vitality on the body.
Yes, but expecting people to farm the Level 75 dungeon until they're fully geared before stepping foot into the level 77 dungeon is ridiculous. It's a fucking leveling dungeon, not raid tier.
Watch out for those 6 ilvls
I was just starting the reality of facts, there was no opinion there
then you're bad should he? sure. does it actually make enough of a difference to not be able to big pull? no