As long as the homonym is used, with or without "w", it doesn't matter. A good insult doesn't require anatomical accuracy or specificity.
For instance 'dick weed' is great for getting across the desired message, but I have no idea to what it specifically refers.
In this case, the guy was obviously a whole ass dick weed.
Yes, this is correct. Even if he was ātestingā you, that is not his job. He is not your father nor your boss, and āteachingā you something about waiting tables is not his responsibility. He didnāt want to tip you, thatās clear. He kept taking away money waiting for you to stop him, as if he is the Magic Man and you are his student. If he wanted to tip you 100%, he would have. If he wanted to tip you 20%, he would have. He tipped you what he always tips, Iām sure, which was less than 10%. The guy is a dick.
If you get him as a customer again, and he asks how much he should tip you, say, āOne hundred dollars.ā Then just look at him until he gives you the money to pay the bill. I promise you, even if you answer him directly, you will still get a 10% tip.
It's a bit like saying to your dog, "Beg," and then giving a treat as a reward. Spectacularly demeaning assholery from a douche-bag, who sadly is certain to not realize how much of an ass-hole he is.
Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping has a racist history to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html
āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
The point is that whatever you think of tipping culture or whatever its origins, **it is not the fault of the servers themselves.** Punishing your server because you ādonāt believe in tippingā just makes you look foolish and uneducated. You are not winning a war; you are punishing the person *doing the work* to make sure you have a pleasant experience when you go out to eat. Acting superior or refusing to tip ~ saying shit like āitās not my job to pay your workersā ~ is elitist behavior, most often practiced by people who never had to wait tables or work in food service for a living and think they are better than those who *cook & serve their food.* Without those people, there would be no restaurants, no dining out. Punishing them is just plain stupid.
I would have handed it back and said, "Here, you clearly need this more than I do," followed by looking at his casual date and saying, "He's going to treat you the exact same way later tonight."
You canāt win with these people. Heās just a dick enjoying the power. If you had given the more confident answer, he would have tipped small and used your āoverconfidenceā as the excuse. Literally whatever you had done, he was still going to tip small and leave you second guessing yourself. What an asshole.
That's exactly what I was thinking of this dynamic. It's obvious (to me), that he's one of those guys who likes to show off how much money he has to a date -- with no intention of actually paying the big tip. Then when she asks him why he tipped so shit, he will just respond that OP asked for it.
I worked in an upscale hair salon. A man brought his girlfriend in for a complete makeover. I put highlights in her hair, cut it, did her makeup and then styled her hair. At every junction during the different procedures he would flash a big wad of cash and saying āsheās looking so beautiful! This will be your tip!ā He would also stop me and consult with me what he wanted done. They were there for hours, he wanted perfection and thatās what I provided.
All in all, with him constantly interrupting and making every step of the way much longer, I worked on her for 6 hours. While she was processing I would do a haircut or a service for another client. Also, she received a manicure and pedicure from others that worked there. He got mad about me having other clients to take care of and went to the receptionist and told her to cancel the rest of my appointments for the day. He wanted me to pay 100% attention to his girlfriend. He expected me to twiddle my thumbs while sheās getting other services.
He was delighted with the results and gushed about how gorgeous she looked. They left. Reception put 6 of my clients with other stylists instead of rebooking them.
The shithead did not leave a tip at all and I lost a lot of money from other clients because of him!
Moral: donāt ever count on a tip when theyāre flashing their money; thatās when you know theyāre not about to leave a tip. Theyāre just on a power trip.
Edit to add: You did nothing wrong!!
In my experience, the "I'm gonna take care of you" type comments are always code for "I'm tipping you 5% or less."
Then there's some people who seem to think a standard $5 - $10 is a big/good tip regardless if the bill is $100 or $500.
Yeah i wouldnt let someone rebook my appointments for anyone. Sorry i have a schedule of regular clients. If youd like my time you can schedule as well.
If I was with someone who did this, that would be the last time they ever had a meal with me.
And I would have made a show of giving the server a good tip.
But not surprising. Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping was invented to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black or female:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html
āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
All restaurant workers make at least minimum wage.
Servers (generally) work for tipped minimum wage and if they donāt make enough in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference.
Here are the actual demographics for US servers:
https://datausa.io/profile/soc/waiters-waitresses#:~:text=In%202021%2C%2068.4%25%20of%20the,were%20women%20and%2027.2%25%20men.
68.4% of the server workforce is white.
Less than 10% are black.
72.8% are women
27.2% are men
This 100% so Iād tell them to do whatās in their heart and walk away. Donāt give them a chance to tease you like that.
My inner asshole would pay his arm and say āDonāt worry sweetie, if youāre asking you should probably keep it.ā With a wink.
Meh, depends on the personā¦ taking a big swing and getting shot down can be harmful too!
Guy was a dickā¦ itās easier to arm chair quarterback a witty response like āyou canāt afford me, big guyā here and now.
OP did absolutely nothing to diminish their entitlement to dignity and self-respect and suggesting they did is putting yourself on a similar shit train as the douche canoe
I actually think OP preserved her dignity and self respect from this post. Imagine she seemed excited about the 100 dollar tip then he laughed and said 'as if, here's your 3 dollars.' she was professional and not desperate. But this guy is also a major AH and would've absolutely enjoyed wiping the smile off of her face in that scenario.
Honestly this is the worst server story I have heard. It feels SO gross of him to play that game with you and like it was some power play. As a seasoned server, I would have responded to him the same way...but I would have been furious afterwards --- not because of the tip, but of what the heck that all was. I feel so angry and disgusted just reading this. That guy is disgusting.
In my city where the casino restaurants are unionized, the servers get double pay on holidays. So 20*2 == approximately 40/hour. 50/hour for bartenders.
They are getting paid very well, even before adding tips.
That's awesome for you and your city! The US Federal minimum wage for tipped employees is 2.13, and there are many states that have not regulated a higher tipped minimum wage.
Doesnāt it make you wonder what he is saying to the woman he came in with? Is she an abused wife? Is she on a never to be repeated first date? Does she just have no ability to perceive sketchy behaviour? The OP is paid to be there but his dateā¦
When I worked at Sears a woman customer wanted a stove. It was obvious the husband was in control, because she kept saying āNo thatās too much. My husband wonāt approve.ā She also had hunched shoulders like she was afraid of everything & I could barely hear her talking.
The husband appeared a few minutes later, and he was very dominant (even towards me). I could tell it was an abusive relationship.
That's what I was thinking. She's either just as bad as he is, or she's so used to his behavior that she knows not to say anything. I'd be tempted to kick him in the balls, then grab the 100 and give it back to the server, but I wouldn't actually do that. I might go back and give the server a better tip though and never go on a date with that guy again
I had a guy pay me for two pints of beer with a $50 (bill was (14.89) He was being a ding dong prior and my boss warned me about his problematic past as a customer. I gave him all his change and he dropped the 11 cents in my tip jar saying "hey at least I'm helping you pay your bills right? Hurhurhur"
Loser.
He had no intention of giving you the change from the $100. If you'd asked for it, he'd have insulted you for being greedy and kept it. It was a power play against you to make him feel powerful and impress the woman with him ... don't give him your power ... keep that for your powerful self. He's an ass. Don't see him as anything else. Hopefully the woman with him sees it that way as well. You handled it 100% correctly. Don't give him the satisfaction of thinking about it any longer.
All restaurant workers make at least minimum wage.
Servers (generally) work for tipped minimum wage and if they donāt make enough in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference.
Here are the actual demographics for US servers:
https://datausa.io/profile/soc/waiters-waitresses#:~:text=In%202021%2C%2068.4%25%20of%20the,were%20women%20and%2027.2%25%20men.
68.4% of the server workforce is white.
Less than 10% are black.
72.8% are women
27.2% are men
People like this need to be told to pound sand when it happens. Of course, we don't know if she approved, disapproved but was too used to his crap to say anything, or was just afraid to lose a ride home.
I think you handled that well. If you had said you deserved a 100% tip he probably would still have tipped you $3. He was playing mind games to feel like a big man and I hope you ruined it for him by not begging for the money. Hopefully his date saw because if I was out with someone who did this I would never bother speaking to them again.
Ugh I hate people like this, not sure which part they get off on but they definitely enjoy the power trip.
Iāll never forget this dude from when I was a brand new server at my very first job, he kept promising me heād āgive me a $100 bill if my service was goodā over and over. Updating me occasionally āso far so good, on the way to that $100 dollar bill!ā While also pervy-ole-man flirting. He was with some other old dude and when they got up to leave, sure enough there WAS a $100 billā¦ to cover their $85 tab. He had even written out on the receipt ā(100) dollar billā I guess to make it clear he wasnāt technically lying. These are the kind of people who promise someone a car and deliver a toy-Yoda and think itās funny.
A toy Yoda? Is that a car brand?
Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping was invented to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black or female:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html
āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
I've had this happen a couple of times. The best one was a party of 6 bro dudes, about $500 tab.
One guy was paying, said "ok bro, tell me hownmuch I should tip you."
Without a second of delay I say "Five. Hundred. Dollars."
Rest of the dudes erupt in laughter. Force him to tip me the $500.
Win/Win/lose lol.
I always dead look them in the eyes and give a high enough amount that it won't be insane (1 million dollars) but makes them look weird to their group if they don't do it. Usually the tab.
Not going to rag on you. Guy was a total ass on a perverted power trip. Probably lucky to get $3 out of him. Probably uses it as a test for his dates to see if they catch the HUGE RED FLAGS on his little mind control games--or they both like to abuse others.
You were not teased. You were tortured and abused. Welcome to the wonderful world of customer service in America.
But not surprising. Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping was invented to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black or female:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html
āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
All restaurant workers make at least minimum wage.
Servers (generally) work for tipped minimum wage and if they donāt make enough in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference.
Here are the actual demographics for US servers:
https://datausa.io/profile/soc/waiters-waitresses#:~:text=In%202021%2C%2068.4%25%20of%20the,were%20women%20and%2027.2%25%20men.
68.4% of the server workforce is white.
Less than 10% are black.
72.8% are women
27.2% are men
Iād always just say āthatās up to you manā. If they push it I say 20% is good, anything extra is better.
You didnāt do anything wrong, guy is just an ass clown. I donāt care if youāre ready to tip me 100%, Iām not gonna be youāre dancing monkey for it, fuck off with that shit
I train servers for this situation. If someone asks how much they should tip you, always say $100. Youād be surprised how many times it works. Just say $100
Ive had him before. Very brief. Just got fries and a soda water while he waited for a ride or something. Nice guy. He tipped well. Pretty sure he wouldāve given me the 50 that he had out. He just wanted me to tell him I wanted it. It was weird and uncomfortable but I didnāt budge. Made me feel like a beggar. I like what you and my very experienced bartender/coworker told me. Basically said youād be surprised how often youāll get the 100 and if they make a weird face quickly say āIām just kidding man Iām sure youāll take care of meā and walk away.
My revenge fantasy (because let's be honest, I would never do it in real life) would be after he pulled the money the second time, to act all surprised and concerned and say:
"Oh. Ohhhhh... my poor man, don't you worry, here" and pull a 5 dollar bill and put it in his hands. "Hope this helps, happy holidays to you and your family! If you come back later, I can arrange for a small care package from the kitchen, \*wink\*, \*wink\*"
I would have said either 1 of 2 things. ā That 100 would be coolā or āwhatever you feel like my manā
But for him to give you that little is ridiculous. Thatās very frustrating. Sorry you experienced that
Never intended to tip you fairly. A little armchair physiologically here, a control freak and narcissist. I wish anyone involved with this butthole the best of luck!
The only people that do that are professional shitheads and that woman hopefully ghosted him for being cheap, childish, douchebag. You should have given him the $3 back and told him he needs it more than you, obviously. Fuck that shit.
This is just as rude and condescending as people who put cash out on the table after being seated, tell you itās your tip unless the service is lacking, and then they remove money from the supposed tip cash pile every time they feel the service wasnāt up to their standard and they make sure you see it. Or maybe they had to wait 90 seconds for their side of ranch. Assholes.
God we had a wedding we catered where the bride's father did crap like that. He literally got on the microphone after the maid of honor's heartfelt speech to make a huge spectacle of him complaining about how he wasted his money on shit caterers and to show everyone he was ripping up part of our "tip" because we didn't get him a refill on his booze fast enough.
First off your daughter and son-in law actually paid for everything you lying sack of shit, second I don't actually work for or expect tips, especially not from random guests, third we're not in charge of the fucking bar because they were hired separately and even if we were they already cut you off for bringing in outside liquor, fourth, you can go fuck yourself you stupid sack of shit.
God that guy was a throbbing asshole.
This is the rudest thing I've heard in a while. And do people not understand that the average person actually DOESN'T appreciate when a server peeps their tip before they leave?! Kind of like with anonymous donations, if I give someone 500 on a 500 dollar check, I'm doing it because they earned it, not because I want them to kneel down and offer profuse thanks. I like thinking they'll appreciate the hundred percent or whatever, but that's that. When I pay the bill, most of the time I won't even tell my wife or friends. I honestly have no clue if people think I'm a good or bad tipper, because I just think it's kinda gauche to do a nice thing and then get praise for it. On the internet, I don't mind saying it, because yes I'm admitting to it, but I'm anonymous, so that evens out I think.
I really hate it when dudes try to play games like this. Bro I'm a server, not your fucking assistant. Act like an adult and don't ask me stupid questions else you will be forever known in my restaurant as the idiot.
I would have given the change back and told him he needed it more than I did and a 'Happy Thanksgiving' to boot.
If they ever ask a dumb question, always give a big dumb number. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
Heās awful. You could have said, āOh, yikes, I just said industry standard is 20% and you gave me 7%! Either you canāt do math or you think that me serving you on a holiday isnāt worth my time, both of which are incredibly pathetic.ā And laugh and laugh and laugh. Then you pull a coworker over and tell them, in front of him. And then you both laugh and laugh and laugh.
Iām really sorry you encountered such a power tripping ahole. You would have never gotten more than that $3.30 no matter what you had said. He pegged you as an inexperienced newbie and wanted to tear you down. It has nothing to do with you or your experience; it has to do with him being an insecure little weeny who thinks heās a big man going out on a holiday and not treating others respectfully.
iāve had this exact situation basically and when that happened to me i got really flustered when he wanted a real number so i jokingly told him a million dollars. he ended up tipping me $100.
Actually, you could have returned the $3.30 to him, telling him "It's Thanksgiving. I think you must need this more than I."
He was being petty and a bit mean spirited.
Guyās just an asshole that feels like tough guy messing with servers. Next time match their energy and tell them āif youāre asking, I want $50.ā
I answered this with ānothing, because I donāt want to play this game.ā Full-on constant eye contact while letting the awkward pause grow, then told him to have a lovely evening and it was a pleasure taking care of them.
Meh. I work at a business hotel with a lot of pretty high end clientele. We get sports teams, people with private jets, hell even Green Day came in and had dinner with me as the server a while back. However, holidays come around and the rates drop a ton because business people are no longer traveling. So I got the cheap guests yesterday. A couple sympathy tips. A surprising amount of bad tips/stiffs. Averaged 17.5%. Basically just got really good or really bad tips. Letās just say I prefer my consistent business crowd š
I would have said āwhatever you can affordā in a happy, yet maybe sympathetic/understanding way.. dude is now gunna look like he canāt afford to tip much if he leaves bare minimum, so to impress his date he will probably try and leave more!
You canāt win with these individuals. Heās fair a dick getting a charge out of the control. On the off chance that you had given the more sure reply, he would have tipped little and utilized your āoverconfidenceā as the pardon. Truly anything you had done, he was still reaching to tip little and take off you moment speculating yourself. What an asshole.
Guy was an AH. I am a veteran of serving(30+years mostly at a high end seafood restaurant ). I would have rolled the dice and told him it's Thanksgiving pal leave the hundred on the table! Being stiffed on a $43 bill is easy to make up on other tables. If it was a $300 check I would have exercised more caution. I, like many waiters have had this happen and after a few episodes you learn. I will not grovel for tips. My integrity is far too important.
I would give him change Back, as he obviously needs it more then you. Helps him get over holidays.
Be sooo nice. Overly nice. Just smiles and what not.
At that point, you have earned the right to call him an asshole to his face. You paid for it in the lack of tip, you may as well get your money's worth.
Dude, he was 100% on a power trip and this is a disgusting display of that. I wonder about his relationship with this person he was dating because honestly, Iām not sure sheās safe with this kind of āman.ā
Guy was an AH and bullying you. He had no intention of giving you more than he did. No matter your answer, he wasn't spending more than that $50. Sorry, OP.
No right answer. You read the person and situation and respond with what makes sense. In this case they guy wanted to power trip but since heās really a broke ass he kept the 50 because he needed it.
Next time some Jack ass tries to "test" you like this reply "however much can you afford to tip me" . This puts the onus on him to prove himself by tipping well.
You gave the moral response, I've done the same. Usually without it backfiring on me. When they've shorted me after I say, "If I did a good job, tip well," I've asked what I could do better to avoid such a pathetic tip in the future. That got them back pedaling.
I stopped the tip what you think is fair when I had a guest (regular on our karaoke night) ask me what I wanted, I gave my usual response (because he never left less than 50%), and they turned to my manager who was counting out the other bar drawer and asked what they should tip me. He said $200, and the guest said ok and wrote the check $200 over. Turned out he was embezzling from his company and went to prison, but I didn't have to give the money back.
In these situations, throw it back on him and his ego. Answer with something like, āThatās 100% entirely up to you sir and how much you wish to impress your date.ā
I don't play those games. Just don't engage. I'd rather nothing than give an asshole like that any satisfaction. I would have said something mean and then walked away. Probably, clearly you need that money more than I do, so keep it. Fuck that noise. I don't beg for tips.
Fucking asshole tips you $3.30 as a tip on THANKSGIVING??? I tip more for a pizza delivery on any random day. I hope his casual date ghosts him for being a jerk.
You did nothing wrong.
I've said in the past in a similar scenario, "tip your conscience."
But let me stress again that you did nothing wrong. He was an asshole.
What a gross move. He did that as a power and control move. I'm sure he is probably an abuser and treats women like shit. Feels like he has to put people down to make himself feel better than. Do r let this douche get you down.
This reminds me of the story of a man who goes into a restaurant and puts 5 20s on the table. He tells the server that that will be their tip but every time they screw up, he'll take a 20 away. Whatever is left at the end is the the tip they'll get. It's shown as "this keeps the server responsible for their own tip and they'll work harder when they know it's not a set standard." All it really does is treat the servers like performing monkeys with no dignity. It gives AH a sense of power and control, which they thrive on
"I'll leave you with the bill."
Then I grab a manager to close them out so I can take care of guests who are here to have a good time not teach me a lesson.
If you look at my history there's a story of a lady who felt the need to tell me she used to do what I do, but then she became a doctor.
Great. Wow. Marvelous. I like to poop on rocks. You can stick up for yourself by not giving them one more second of face time.
"I believe your occupation to be plebian. I, as your superior have great wisdom to disperse."
No, you're just rude.
I always just say āwhatever you feel I earned, it all works out in the end. ā which lets them know I am not jumping through a hoop or begging for their money. And if he wants to be cheep the next person will probably be generous.
This dude was just an asshole. You donāt need whatever driver boat bullshit your friend told you. All you need to be a very successful server are 1) be positive 2) be yourself 3) be genuine , so be your positive self 4) be a hard worker.
Thatās it. Iāve been a server for 22 years and I make bank no matter what kind of restaurant Iām working. I promise thatās the only skill you need. Unless a person is a lazy jerk asshole. Then donāt be genuine lol youāve got this dude, I promise
He was being an ass.
What you do is you remember these people well then when you see them next time you ask yourself "How fast do I need to help these people?"
Good grief. If i had been the second party in the couple, i would have spoken up and told them to give it all . what a jerk. Then i woulda gotten ip and walked out leaving his giant ass. They were both jerks.
Ew, if i ever went out with a man like that iād scold him, properly tip you, then block his number and never speak again. so gross on both parties accounts
š¤¢š¤¢š¤¢ itās always men that do this. Women have their own ways of making you miserable, too, but in my experience THIS brand of assholery is blatantly male.
He wanted you to engage in a dick measuring contest with him. These dudes are the worst.
Yeah. Theyāll even complain about the food of the people with them. Iām like, āBeverly, relax. Little Jeffrey are his ENTIRE pizza. It canāt have been that bad.ā
This just pisses me off, so much! Man, if I were on a date and some jackass pulled this crap, I would have tipped you extra right in front of him, and he would be leaving by himself! I very much judge people on how they treat those in the service industry. That guy is low class! Sorry that you had to deal with that š
I have worked in the service industry for more years than I care to mention. I learned to read a table as I was approaching it. It takes time to learn how to read people in this aspect. I did however learn that some people actually enjoy sarcasm from their servers.
I would NEVER suggest that a new server use the same response that I would use to this question. Me personally, I would (and have), looked the man in his eye and simply stated "keep the change right" ?
Being able to read people and know what approach to use helped me to be successful in the service industry. Learning to use this ability is or what determines the success or failure in your job. Not every person is cut out to be a server. I've trained servers who have gone on to be considered the best. I always loved my job but over time I learned that if a person is not cut out to be a server then no matter how hard they tried they would not be completely successful.
In almost every job that I've worked in the service industry I was the one that other servers came to when they had difficult tables because let's face it for some reason when people go out to eat they seem to forget that their server is there to make sure they enjoy their dining experience but not be verbally abused. I've always tried to match the energy of the people at my tables. And not everyone can get away with that. There are many ways to put a rude customer in their place with a smile and a sarcastic response to negative behavior I learned that the right response will often diffuse the situation.
I'm sorry that you had to deal with a man like that. I did learn through the years that there are a lot of people out there that are rude to their servers and look down on them because they think of the job in such a way that customers sometimes act like the job is beneath them due to the low hourly wage. One of my favorite comments from people has always been "When are you going to get a real job that pays better".
I would strongly suggest that when a customer asks you a question like this, look at them, smile, and say don't tip me what you think I'm worth tell me what I know I'm worth.
He was looking for a way to cheap out on your tip. You were professional and heās a jerk. Sorry that happened to you , hold your head high and know that you are BETTER than him
I'm wondering what the woman with him was thinking. I would have been mortified and reprimanded him in front of the server.
I'd also think twice about ever seeing him again. What a jackass.
If he wanted to tip you well he would have. Even if you gave a number, his tip would still have been $3
I had a nice couple I waited once. Saw I was in a the weeds and still gave them good service. Guy asks how much i want as a tip. I answered tip whatever you like, I trust you. Man tipped $80 on a $100 tab. Best night ever
I will say he did look like Elon musk and after that night I learned his brother owns a spot in the same city. Who knows tho. Dude was awesome
U gave him the correct answer. 15-20% is industry standard. If u would have said a higher number he probably would have ādockedā your pay for being greedy. I donāt usually play that game. So I would say the industry standard is 15-20% which is between $6 and $9. It was a pleasure serving you this evening- hope to see you again. And I walk away.
No pressure- people that are genuinely trying to give u a good tip wonāt play these stupid games.
You should have taken the opportunity to *teach him* a lesson: answer $100 and quickly yank the hundo and pocket it, then politely but firmly tell him what he owes on the bill.
(Before anyone comes at me, of course this would actually be the very wrong thing to do, but hey, I can dream of being able to put asshole customers in their place)
What a dick move! I used to feel sorry for people like this. Thinking what sad lives they must lead. Now? Fuck 'em!! They deserve everything bad that can happen to them.
If heās like me, he probably enjoyed you as a server and chatting with you after his meal. He is just bad at figuring 20% and adding it to the bill on the fly.
You came on my post to be negative and attack my coworker. Ima stick up for my guy every time. Weāre a team. Bringing negativity like that to someoneās post is not a good look. Best of luck to you
What an arsehole. I really wish restaurants would start banning arseholes from the premises, instead of giving them rewards and bonuses for being cruel and cretinous
WTF. I'm pretty sure no answer you gave would've been satisfactory to him. If you had the balls to say a certain amount, he would've said that's too bold. What a first class c-u-next-tuesday.
Terrible manipulative behavior that only another manipulative terrible person stood a chance at āoutsmartingā(couldnāt think of a better word). Consider it a compliment that you were confused by his actions. Those werenāt good actions with good intentions or reasoning behind them. You did fine.
I would have either handled it the same way you did, or with humor, as your coworker suggested - it would depend on if I had a rapport with the customer.
I cannot believe this personās partner would sit back and allow him to humiliate you like that. They are both trash. Iām sorry you were treated this way.
I would have said if you're not sure what to tip me then I assume you likely need it more than I so don't bother tipping me. Or something along those lines. Give him back his $3.
You handled it appropriately! He's just an ass.
This is the answer. And a specialist might even identify that guy as a particular part of the ass.
š¤ ...the whole ass or the hole of the ass? I think both fit!
An Ouroboros of ass.
The Ouroborass.
The hole of an ass on an ass.
As long as the homonym is used, with or without "w", it doesn't matter. A good insult doesn't require anatomical accuracy or specificity. For instance 'dick weed' is great for getting across the desired message, but I have no idea to what it specifically refers. In this case, the guy was obviously a whole ass dick weed.
An odiferous, warty, winnet-clad sphincter.
It doesn't take a proctologist to see that dude was an asshole!
Yes, this is correct. Even if he was ātestingā you, that is not his job. He is not your father nor your boss, and āteachingā you something about waiting tables is not his responsibility. He didnāt want to tip you, thatās clear. He kept taking away money waiting for you to stop him, as if he is the Magic Man and you are his student. If he wanted to tip you 100%, he would have. If he wanted to tip you 20%, he would have. He tipped you what he always tips, Iām sure, which was less than 10%. The guy is a dick. If you get him as a customer again, and he asks how much he should tip you, say, āOne hundred dollars.ā Then just look at him until he gives you the money to pay the bill. I promise you, even if you answer him directly, you will still get a 10% tip.
It's a bit like saying to your dog, "Beg," and then giving a treat as a reward. Spectacularly demeaning assholery from a douche-bag, who sadly is certain to not realize how much of an ass-hole he is.
Assholes never do.
Exactly my thought. Boy wanted to feel like a big man with a hundo in hand š¤Ø what a loser
I heartily disagree. He knows he's an ass and just doesn't care and probably gets immense enjoyment from being one.
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Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping has a racist history to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
The point is that whatever you think of tipping culture or whatever its origins, **it is not the fault of the servers themselves.** Punishing your server because you ādonāt believe in tippingā just makes you look foolish and uneducated. You are not winning a war; you are punishing the person *doing the work* to make sure you have a pleasant experience when you go out to eat. Acting superior or refusing to tip ~ saying shit like āitās not my job to pay your workersā ~ is elitist behavior, most often practiced by people who never had to wait tables or work in food service for a living and think they are better than those who *cook & serve their food.* Without those people, there would be no restaurants, no dining out. Punishing them is just plain stupid.
I would have handed it back and said, "Here, you clearly need this more than I do," followed by looking at his casual date and saying, "He's going to treat you the exact same way later tonight."
Yeah. You canāt play around with the server then tip less than 20%. F that guy.
Super-duper, ginormous, entitled ass who I would run from if I ever met him.
You canāt win with these people. Heās just a dick enjoying the power. If you had given the more confident answer, he would have tipped small and used your āoverconfidenceā as the excuse. Literally whatever you had done, he was still going to tip small and leave you second guessing yourself. What an asshole.
Entitled AH.
That's exactly what I was thinking of this dynamic. It's obvious (to me), that he's one of those guys who likes to show off how much money he has to a date -- with no intention of actually paying the big tip. Then when she asks him why he tipped so shit, he will just respond that OP asked for it.
I worked in an upscale hair salon. A man brought his girlfriend in for a complete makeover. I put highlights in her hair, cut it, did her makeup and then styled her hair. At every junction during the different procedures he would flash a big wad of cash and saying āsheās looking so beautiful! This will be your tip!ā He would also stop me and consult with me what he wanted done. They were there for hours, he wanted perfection and thatās what I provided. All in all, with him constantly interrupting and making every step of the way much longer, I worked on her for 6 hours. While she was processing I would do a haircut or a service for another client. Also, she received a manicure and pedicure from others that worked there. He got mad about me having other clients to take care of and went to the receptionist and told her to cancel the rest of my appointments for the day. He wanted me to pay 100% attention to his girlfriend. He expected me to twiddle my thumbs while sheās getting other services. He was delighted with the results and gushed about how gorgeous she looked. They left. Reception put 6 of my clients with other stylists instead of rebooking them. The shithead did not leave a tip at all and I lost a lot of money from other clients because of him! Moral: donāt ever count on a tip when theyāre flashing their money; thatās when you know theyāre not about to leave a tip. Theyāre just on a power trip. Edit to add: You did nothing wrong!!
In my experience, the "I'm gonna take care of you" type comments are always code for "I'm tipping you 5% or less." Then there's some people who seem to think a standard $5 - $10 is a big/good tip regardless if the bill is $100 or $500.
Yeah i wouldnt let someone rebook my appointments for anyone. Sorry i have a schedule of regular clients. If youd like my time you can schedule as well.
Why did you let the receptionist cancel your books?
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Shut up. Please shut up.
This 1000%. A large percentage of server stiffers do it as a power trip. Hopefully his date figures out heās an a-hole sooner rather than later.
If I was with someone who did this, that would be the last time they ever had a meal with me. And I would have made a show of giving the server a good tip.
But not surprising. Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping was invented to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black or female: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
All restaurant workers make at least minimum wage. Servers (generally) work for tipped minimum wage and if they donāt make enough in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference. Here are the actual demographics for US servers: https://datausa.io/profile/soc/waiters-waitresses#:~:text=In%202021%2C%2068.4%25%20of%20the,were%20women%20and%2027.2%25%20men. 68.4% of the server workforce is white. Less than 10% are black. 72.8% are women 27.2% are men
This 100% so Iād tell them to do whatās in their heart and walk away. Donāt give them a chance to tease you like that. My inner asshole would pay his arm and say āDonāt worry sweetie, if youāre asking you should probably keep it.ā With a wink.
But overconfidence preserves your dignity and self-respect.
Meh, depends on the personā¦ taking a big swing and getting shot down can be harmful too! Guy was a dickā¦ itās easier to arm chair quarterback a witty response like āyou canāt afford me, big guyā here and now.
OP did absolutely nothing to diminish their entitlement to dignity and self-respect and suggesting they did is putting yourself on a similar shit train as the douche canoe
I actually think OP preserved her dignity and self respect from this post. Imagine she seemed excited about the 100 dollar tip then he laughed and said 'as if, here's your 3 dollars.' she was professional and not desperate. But this guy is also a major AH and would've absolutely enjoyed wiping the smile off of her face in that scenario.
Heās cheap but wanted to make it look like they deserved the smaller tip.
Honestly this is the worst server story I have heard. It feels SO gross of him to play that game with you and like it was some power play. As a seasoned server, I would have responded to him the same way...but I would have been furious afterwards --- not because of the tip, but of what the heck that all was. I feel so angry and disgusted just reading this. That guy is disgusting.
And on a holidayā¦ who tips less on thanksgiving?
In my city where the casino restaurants are unionized, the servers get double pay on holidays. So 20*2 == approximately 40/hour. 50/hour for bartenders. They are getting paid very well, even before adding tips.
That's awesome for you and your city! The US Federal minimum wage for tipped employees is 2.13, and there are many states that have not regulated a higher tipped minimum wage.
Doesnāt it make you wonder what he is saying to the woman he came in with? Is she an abused wife? Is she on a never to be repeated first date? Does she just have no ability to perceive sketchy behaviour? The OP is paid to be there but his dateā¦
When I worked at Sears a woman customer wanted a stove. It was obvious the husband was in control, because she kept saying āNo thatās too much. My husband wonāt approve.ā She also had hunched shoulders like she was afraid of everything & I could barely hear her talking. The husband appeared a few minutes later, and he was very dominant (even towards me). I could tell it was an abusive relationship.
THANK YOU! I was thinking what gross behavior that is. I can't imagine being at the table with them.
That's what I was thinking. She's either just as bad as he is, or she's so used to his behavior that she knows not to say anything. I'd be tempted to kick him in the balls, then grab the 100 and give it back to the server, but I wouldn't actually do that. I might go back and give the server a better tip though and never go on a date with that guy again
I had a guy pay me for two pints of beer with a $50 (bill was (14.89) He was being a ding dong prior and my boss warned me about his problematic past as a customer. I gave him all his change and he dropped the 11 cents in my tip jar saying "hey at least I'm helping you pay your bills right? Hurhurhur" Loser.
He had no intention of giving you the change from the $100. If you'd asked for it, he'd have insulted you for being greedy and kept it. It was a power play against you to make him feel powerful and impress the woman with him ... don't give him your power ... keep that for your powerful self. He's an ass. Don't see him as anything else. Hopefully the woman with him sees it that way as well. You handled it 100% correctly. Don't give him the satisfaction of thinking about it any longer.
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All restaurant workers make at least minimum wage. Servers (generally) work for tipped minimum wage and if they donāt make enough in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference. Here are the actual demographics for US servers: https://datausa.io/profile/soc/waiters-waitresses#:~:text=In%202021%2C%2068.4%25%20of%20the,were%20women%20and%2027.2%25%20men. 68.4% of the server workforce is white. Less than 10% are black. 72.8% are women 27.2% are men
You shouldāve shamed this bum in front of his date
He shamed himself.
Absolutely, there was a clear winner here and it ain't him.
Yeah, unless she was trash, she was embarrassed by him and probably told him to pound sand after the date.
People like this need to be told to pound sand when it happens. Of course, we don't know if she approved, disapproved but was too used to his crap to say anything, or was just afraid to lose a ride home.
I'm OK with her waiting until she gets dropped off at home to tell him to fuck off. :)
Yeah, safety first.
I think you handled that well. If you had said you deserved a 100% tip he probably would still have tipped you $3. He was playing mind games to feel like a big man and I hope you ruined it for him by not begging for the money. Hopefully his date saw because if I was out with someone who did this I would never bother speaking to them again.
Ugh I hate people like this, not sure which part they get off on but they definitely enjoy the power trip. Iāll never forget this dude from when I was a brand new server at my very first job, he kept promising me heād āgive me a $100 bill if my service was goodā over and over. Updating me occasionally āso far so good, on the way to that $100 dollar bill!ā While also pervy-ole-man flirting. He was with some other old dude and when they got up to leave, sure enough there WAS a $100 billā¦ to cover their $85 tab. He had even written out on the receipt ā(100) dollar billā I guess to make it clear he wasnāt technically lying. These are the kind of people who promise someone a car and deliver a toy-Yoda and think itās funny.
A toy Yoda? Is that a car brand? Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping was invented to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black or female: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
I've had this happen a couple of times. The best one was a party of 6 bro dudes, about $500 tab. One guy was paying, said "ok bro, tell me hownmuch I should tip you." Without a second of delay I say "Five. Hundred. Dollars." Rest of the dudes erupt in laughter. Force him to tip me the $500. Win/Win/lose lol. I always dead look them in the eyes and give a high enough amount that it won't be insane (1 million dollars) but makes them look weird to their group if they don't do it. Usually the tab.
He wanted to play the power game. You wouldn't play. You won.
I would have subverted the whole game. My answer to his question would be, "All your perceived power over me, I guess."
A strange game, the only winning move is not to play.
If my date pulled that power-tripping bullshit on a server, it would be our last date.
Not going to rag on you. Guy was a total ass on a perverted power trip. Probably lucky to get $3 out of him. Probably uses it as a test for his dates to see if they catch the HUGE RED FLAGS on his little mind control games--or they both like to abuse others. You were not teased. You were tortured and abused. Welcome to the wonderful world of customer service in America.
But not surprising. Customers acting superior is a side effect of tippingās origins. American tipping was invented to deny proper wages to former slaves (post-Civil War segregation). Even today restaurant workers are excluded from minimum wage laws, and they are predominantly black or female: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html āTipping Is a Legacy of Slaveryā - āAbolish the racist, sexist subminimum wage now.ā
All restaurant workers make at least minimum wage. Servers (generally) work for tipped minimum wage and if they donāt make enough in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference. Here are the actual demographics for US servers: https://datausa.io/profile/soc/waiters-waitresses#:~:text=In%202021%2C%2068.4%25%20of%20the,were%20women%20and%2027.2%25%20men. 68.4% of the server workforce is white. Less than 10% are black. 72.8% are women 27.2% are men
āWould you like me to do a little tap dance too?ā
"Dance monkey, dance!"
Iād always just say āthatās up to you manā. If they push it I say 20% is good, anything extra is better. You didnāt do anything wrong, guy is just an ass clown. I donāt care if youāre ready to tip me 100%, Iām not gonna be youāre dancing monkey for it, fuck off with that shit
I am so sorry. What a jackass. I hope you had better customers at your other tables
I train servers for this situation. If someone asks how much they should tip you, always say $100. Youād be surprised how many times it works. Just say $100
Ive had him before. Very brief. Just got fries and a soda water while he waited for a ride or something. Nice guy. He tipped well. Pretty sure he wouldāve given me the 50 that he had out. He just wanted me to tell him I wanted it. It was weird and uncomfortable but I didnāt budge. Made me feel like a beggar. I like what you and my very experienced bartender/coworker told me. Basically said youād be surprised how often youāll get the 100 and if they make a weird face quickly say āIām just kidding man Iām sure youāll take care of meā and walk away.
My revenge fantasy (because let's be honest, I would never do it in real life) would be after he pulled the money the second time, to act all surprised and concerned and say: "Oh. Ohhhhh... my poor man, don't you worry, here" and pull a 5 dollar bill and put it in his hands. "Hope this helps, happy holidays to you and your family! If you come back later, I can arrange for a small care package from the kitchen, \*wink\*, \*wink\*"
DO IT!!! itās not a heinous thing to actually doā¦
I would have said either 1 of 2 things. ā That 100 would be coolā or āwhatever you feel like my manā But for him to give you that little is ridiculous. Thatās very frustrating. Sorry you experienced that
Never intended to tip you fairly. A little armchair physiologically here, a control freak and narcissist. I wish anyone involved with this butthole the best of luck!
Armchair physiologically? Like his physique looks like an armchair in your studied opinion?
The only people that do that are professional shitheads and that woman hopefully ghosted him for being cheap, childish, douchebag. You should have given him the $3 back and told him he needs it more than you, obviously. Fuck that shit.
This is just as rude and condescending as people who put cash out on the table after being seated, tell you itās your tip unless the service is lacking, and then they remove money from the supposed tip cash pile every time they feel the service wasnāt up to their standard and they make sure you see it. Or maybe they had to wait 90 seconds for their side of ranch. Assholes.
God we had a wedding we catered where the bride's father did crap like that. He literally got on the microphone after the maid of honor's heartfelt speech to make a huge spectacle of him complaining about how he wasted his money on shit caterers and to show everyone he was ripping up part of our "tip" because we didn't get him a refill on his booze fast enough. First off your daughter and son-in law actually paid for everything you lying sack of shit, second I don't actually work for or expect tips, especially not from random guests, third we're not in charge of the fucking bar because they were hired separately and even if we were they already cut you off for bringing in outside liquor, fourth, you can go fuck yourself you stupid sack of shit. God that guy was a throbbing asshole.
This is the rudest thing I've heard in a while. And do people not understand that the average person actually DOESN'T appreciate when a server peeps their tip before they leave?! Kind of like with anonymous donations, if I give someone 500 on a 500 dollar check, I'm doing it because they earned it, not because I want them to kneel down and offer profuse thanks. I like thinking they'll appreciate the hundred percent or whatever, but that's that. When I pay the bill, most of the time I won't even tell my wife or friends. I honestly have no clue if people think I'm a good or bad tipper, because I just think it's kinda gauche to do a nice thing and then get praise for it. On the internet, I don't mind saying it, because yes I'm admitting to it, but I'm anonymous, so that evens out I think.
You handled it right. That guy's on a power trip. Hate these kinds of customers
I really hate it when dudes try to play games like this. Bro I'm a server, not your fucking assistant. Act like an adult and don't ask me stupid questions else you will be forever known in my restaurant as the idiot.
I would have given the change back and told him he needed it more than I did and a 'Happy Thanksgiving' to boot. If they ever ask a dumb question, always give a big dumb number. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
That guy was a fucking twat.
Small dick energy right there.
Heās awful. You could have said, āOh, yikes, I just said industry standard is 20% and you gave me 7%! Either you canāt do math or you think that me serving you on a holiday isnāt worth my time, both of which are incredibly pathetic.ā And laugh and laugh and laugh. Then you pull a coworker over and tell them, in front of him. And then you both laugh and laugh and laugh. Iām really sorry you encountered such a power tripping ahole. You would have never gotten more than that $3.30 no matter what you had said. He pegged you as an inexperienced newbie and wanted to tear you down. It has nothing to do with you or your experience; it has to do with him being an insecure little weeny who thinks heās a big man going out on a holiday and not treating others respectfully.
So, you did fine. What you encountered here is what I like to call a Massive Ass-hat.
iāve had this exact situation basically and when that happened to me i got really flustered when he wanted a real number so i jokingly told him a million dollars. he ended up tipping me $100.
I would have told him to keep his money and walk away. His behavior was shitty and mean.
Actually, you could have returned the $3.30 to him, telling him "It's Thanksgiving. I think you must need this more than I." He was being petty and a bit mean spirited.
Guyās just an asshole that feels like tough guy messing with servers. Next time match their energy and tell them āif youāre asking, I want $50.ā
I answered this with ānothing, because I donāt want to play this game.ā Full-on constant eye contact while letting the awkward pause grow, then told him to have a lovely evening and it was a pleasure taking care of them.
I canāt imagine going out on thanksgiving and not tipping at least 50%. What a jerk.
Meh. I work at a business hotel with a lot of pretty high end clientele. We get sports teams, people with private jets, hell even Green Day came in and had dinner with me as the server a while back. However, holidays come around and the rates drop a ton because business people are no longer traveling. So I got the cheap guests yesterday. A couple sympathy tips. A surprising amount of bad tips/stiffs. Averaged 17.5%. Basically just got really good or really bad tips. Letās just say I prefer my consistent business crowd š
I would have said āwhatever you can affordā in a happy, yet maybe sympathetic/understanding way.. dude is now gunna look like he canāt afford to tip much if he leaves bare minimum, so to impress his date he will probably try and leave more!
You canāt win with these individuals. Heās fair a dick getting a charge out of the control. On the off chance that you had given the more sure reply, he would have tipped little and utilized your āoverconfidenceā as the pardon. Truly anything you had done, he was still reaching to tip little and take off you moment speculating yourself. What an asshole.
What a dick that customer was. People who assign themselves to teach others unrequested ālife lessonsā are just asshats.
Hopefully his date doesn't date him again.
Why do people make us do tricks for our tips? So demeaning!
Just be glad you are not married to the dipshit.
Guy was an AH. I am a veteran of serving(30+years mostly at a high end seafood restaurant ). I would have rolled the dice and told him it's Thanksgiving pal leave the hundred on the table! Being stiffed on a $43 bill is easy to make up on other tables. If it was a $300 check I would have exercised more caution. I, like many waiters have had this happen and after a few episodes you learn. I will not grovel for tips. My integrity is far too important.
I would give him change Back, as he obviously needs it more then you. Helps him get over holidays. Be sooo nice. Overly nice. Just smiles and what not.
At that point, you have earned the right to call him an asshole to his face. You paid for it in the lack of tip, you may as well get your money's worth.
Dude, he was 100% on a power trip and this is a disgusting display of that. I wonder about his relationship with this person he was dating because honestly, Iām not sure sheās safe with this kind of āman.ā
Guy was an AH and bullying you. He had no intention of giving you more than he did. No matter your answer, he wasn't spending more than that $50. Sorry, OP.
No right answer. You read the person and situation and respond with what makes sense. In this case they guy wanted to power trip but since heās really a broke ass he kept the 50 because he needed it.
Should have said " I guess it depends if this is your first date or not"
Next time some Jack ass tries to "test" you like this reply "however much can you afford to tip me" . This puts the onus on him to prove himself by tipping well.
You gave the moral response, I've done the same. Usually without it backfiring on me. When they've shorted me after I say, "If I did a good job, tip well," I've asked what I could do better to avoid such a pathetic tip in the future. That got them back pedaling. I stopped the tip what you think is fair when I had a guest (regular on our karaoke night) ask me what I wanted, I gave my usual response (because he never left less than 50%), and they turned to my manager who was counting out the other bar drawer and asked what they should tip me. He said $200, and the guest said ok and wrote the check $200 over. Turned out he was embezzling from his company and went to prison, but I didn't have to give the money back.
In these situations, throw it back on him and his ego. Answer with something like, āThatās 100% entirely up to you sir and how much you wish to impress your date.ā
Id have run to the parking lot and caught them to return the change- sir you forgot your change! you seem like you need this more then me!
I hope the person that asshat was on a date with dumped him right after you left.
I hope karma is a bitch for that a-hole
Fuuuuuuccckkkk that guy. Absolutely not. These are the customers you never want to see again. Karma will get him.
I am sorry this happened to you. It was not your fault, he was just an Ass and wanted to pull a weird power play. You did nothing wrong.
I don't play those games. Just don't engage. I'd rather nothing than give an asshole like that any satisfaction. I would have said something mean and then walked away. Probably, clearly you need that money more than I do, so keep it. Fuck that noise. I don't beg for tips.
Fucking asshole tips you $3.30 as a tip on THANKSGIVING??? I tip more for a pizza delivery on any random day. I hope his casual date ghosts him for being a jerk.
You did nothing wrong. I've said in the past in a similar scenario, "tip your conscience." But let me stress again that you did nothing wrong. He was an asshole.
There's an industry term for people like this - Asshole.
What a gross move. He did that as a power and control move. I'm sure he is probably an abuser and treats women like shit. Feels like he has to put people down to make himself feel better than. Do r let this douche get you down.
I'll bet this asshole is an Andrew Tate fan.
Or a libertarian.
This reminds me of the story of a man who goes into a restaurant and puts 5 20s on the table. He tells the server that that will be their tip but every time they screw up, he'll take a 20 away. Whatever is left at the end is the the tip they'll get. It's shown as "this keeps the server responsible for their own tip and they'll work harder when they know it's not a set standard." All it really does is treat the servers like performing monkeys with no dignity. It gives AH a sense of power and control, which they thrive on
"I'll leave you with the bill." Then I grab a manager to close them out so I can take care of guests who are here to have a good time not teach me a lesson. If you look at my history there's a story of a lady who felt the need to tell me she used to do what I do, but then she became a doctor. Great. Wow. Marvelous. I like to poop on rocks. You can stick up for yourself by not giving them one more second of face time. "I believe your occupation to be plebian. I, as your superior have great wisdom to disperse." No, you're just rude.
I usually say it up to them. If they ask again i say the average which is about ļæ”2 or 3.
I always just say āwhatever you feel I earned, it all works out in the end. ā which lets them know I am not jumping through a hoop or begging for their money. And if he wants to be cheep the next person will probably be generous.
This dude was just an asshole. You donāt need whatever driver boat bullshit your friend told you. All you need to be a very successful server are 1) be positive 2) be yourself 3) be genuine , so be your positive self 4) be a hard worker. Thatās it. Iāve been a server for 22 years and I make bank no matter what kind of restaurant Iām working. I promise thatās the only skill you need. Unless a person is a lazy jerk asshole. Then donāt be genuine lol youāve got this dude, I promise
He was being an ass. What you do is you remember these people well then when you see them next time you ask yourself "How fast do I need to help these people?"
There wasnāt a correct answer. He was going to fuck you regardless.
Good grief. If i had been the second party in the couple, i would have spoken up and told them to give it all . what a jerk. Then i woulda gotten ip and walked out leaving his giant ass. They were both jerks.
Why? Because he's an asshole.
What a massive DB.
Ew, if i ever went out with a man like that iād scold him, properly tip you, then block his number and never speak again. so gross on both parties accounts
š¤¢š¤¢š¤¢ itās always men that do this. Women have their own ways of making you miserable, too, but in my experience THIS brand of assholery is blatantly male. He wanted you to engage in a dick measuring contest with him. These dudes are the worst.
Yeah, women are more "send the food back fifty times" types of jerks.
Yeah. Theyāll even complain about the food of the people with them. Iām like, āBeverly, relax. Little Jeffrey are his ENTIRE pizza. It canāt have been that bad.ā
Yup. He probably considers himself an alpha male too. What a piece of shit.
He was always going to tip you 3.30 or nothing. Sorry you had to deal with an asshole
"Your tip to me is whatever you feel I deserve based on service." *Turn to his date* "And my tip to YOU is this guy is a walking red flag."
I think what he was doing was a douche power move, and good for you to stay above it.
Bro, you were never getting anything other than enjoy you got. Heās just an asshole.
He's a piece of shit. I'M PISSED ABOUT THE TIP HE GAVE YOU. Less than 10% š¤¬ *Edited for spelling
This just pisses me off, so much! Man, if I were on a date and some jackass pulled this crap, I would have tipped you extra right in front of him, and he would be leaving by himself! I very much judge people on how they treat those in the service industry. That guy is low class! Sorry that you had to deal with that š
He was going to tip you 3.30 no matter what you said. He was just fucking with you. What a gross person.
ātip whatever you like, just remember your date is watchingā¦ā
If I were his date, I'd drop his ass so fast. I think how you treat service people is a really good way to judge someone's character.
God I hope that was their last date. How cringe.
I have worked in the service industry for more years than I care to mention. I learned to read a table as I was approaching it. It takes time to learn how to read people in this aspect. I did however learn that some people actually enjoy sarcasm from their servers. I would NEVER suggest that a new server use the same response that I would use to this question. Me personally, I would (and have), looked the man in his eye and simply stated "keep the change right" ? Being able to read people and know what approach to use helped me to be successful in the service industry. Learning to use this ability is or what determines the success or failure in your job. Not every person is cut out to be a server. I've trained servers who have gone on to be considered the best. I always loved my job but over time I learned that if a person is not cut out to be a server then no matter how hard they tried they would not be completely successful. In almost every job that I've worked in the service industry I was the one that other servers came to when they had difficult tables because let's face it for some reason when people go out to eat they seem to forget that their server is there to make sure they enjoy their dining experience but not be verbally abused. I've always tried to match the energy of the people at my tables. And not everyone can get away with that. There are many ways to put a rude customer in their place with a smile and a sarcastic response to negative behavior I learned that the right response will often diffuse the situation. I'm sorry that you had to deal with a man like that. I did learn through the years that there are a lot of people out there that are rude to their servers and look down on them because they think of the job in such a way that customers sometimes act like the job is beneath them due to the low hourly wage. One of my favorite comments from people has always been "When are you going to get a real job that pays better". I would strongly suggest that when a customer asks you a question like this, look at them, smile, and say don't tip me what you think I'm worth tell me what I know I'm worth.
What an ass he wanted you to beg.
He was looking for a way to cheap out on your tip. You were professional and heās a jerk. Sorry that happened to you , hold your head high and know that you are BETTER than him
I'd have chased him down with the $3.30. "You forgot your change". See how it plays out.
Fuck that fucking fuck. Iām sorry.
I'm wondering what the woman with him was thinking. I would have been mortified and reprimanded him in front of the server. I'd also think twice about ever seeing him again. What a jackass.
This beta male needs to grow a pair. After heās forced to rely on tips to survive for six months.
If he wanted to tip you well he would have. Even if you gave a number, his tip would still have been $3 I had a nice couple I waited once. Saw I was in a the weeds and still gave them good service. Guy asks how much i want as a tip. I answered tip whatever you like, I trust you. Man tipped $80 on a $100 tab. Best night ever I will say he did look like Elon musk and after that night I learned his brother owns a spot in the same city. Who knows tho. Dude was awesome
U gave him the correct answer. 15-20% is industry standard. If u would have said a higher number he probably would have ādockedā your pay for being greedy. I donāt usually play that game. So I would say the industry standard is 15-20% which is between $6 and $9. It was a pleasure serving you this evening- hope to see you again. And I walk away. No pressure- people that are genuinely trying to give u a good tip wonāt play these stupid games.
Technically you handled it appropriately! Yet you could of said for good service standard is 20%
If I owned that restaurant, he would be blacklisted/86 and never allowed back.
You should have taken the opportunity to *teach him* a lesson: answer $100 and quickly yank the hundo and pocket it, then politely but firmly tell him what he owes on the bill. (Before anyone comes at me, of course this would actually be the very wrong thing to do, but hey, I can dream of being able to put asshole customers in their place)
What a dick move! I used to feel sorry for people like this. Thinking what sad lives they must lead. Now? Fuck 'em!! They deserve everything bad that can happen to them.
I'm not a server but I did drive a hotel shuttle for a few years. My experience was that any passenger that brought up tipping would stiff me.
when people pull shit like this, give their tip back and say, "you seem like you need this more than me"
If heās like me, he probably enjoyed you as a server and chatting with you after his meal. He is just bad at figuring 20% and adding it to the bill on the fly.
Fake letter.
Jokingly but firmly? Your coworker is a loser.
Coworker is a nationally recognized, extremely successful bartender whoās very good at what he does. Take your negativity somewhere else
Lol ok. Maybe take your whining somewhere else
You came on my post to be negative and attack my coworker. Ima stick up for my guy every time. Weāre a team. Bringing negativity like that to someoneās post is not a good look. Best of luck to you
I would have told him I didn't care since my restaurant pays enough that I don't need tips.
"I'm partial to a million dollars, myself."
What an arsehole. I really wish restaurants would start banning arseholes from the premises, instead of giving them rewards and bonuses for being cruel and cretinous
WTF. I'm pretty sure no answer you gave would've been satisfactory to him. If you had the balls to say a certain amount, he would've said that's too bold. What a first class c-u-next-tuesday.
I always say 100%. They already know what they're gonna give you
Just say āa million dollarsā and walk away
He's a cheap psychopath...
He was just being a dick. He was never going to give you a big tip. If I was with that guy, I woulda shut down that little power play real fast.
I always say 100$ with a dead serious look on my face. usually theyāll double their tip when i say that.
Terrible manipulative behavior that only another manipulative terrible person stood a chance at āoutsmartingā(couldnāt think of a better word). Consider it a compliment that you were confused by his actions. Those werenāt good actions with good intentions or reasoning behind them. You did fine.
I would have either handled it the same way you did, or with humor, as your coworker suggested - it would depend on if I had a rapport with the customer.
>As more experienced servers/bartenders, how would yāall have handled that situation? With a trespass warning.
I cannot believe this personās partner would sit back and allow him to humiliate you like that. They are both trash. Iām sorry you were treated this way.
I would have made a show about leaving his $3.30 in the book. Fuck that guy.
Hope his date realized what an eggplant he is
Next time just say "Google it" and walk away š
I'm sorry someone was such a dick to you, reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/TVD5wvJ1ru4?feature=shared) silly clip.
Give him an honest answer next time.
I would have said if you're not sure what to tip me then I assume you likely need it more than I so don't bother tipping me. Or something along those lines. Give him back his $3.