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They shouldn't ask questions they aren't prepared to hear answers to. When Andrew Tate was a thing last year I was asked if I like him to which I told a group of lads eager for my opinion he's a human trafficking rapist obsessed with showing his body to teenage boys, they looked appalled I'd spoken ill of their messiah
Meh. Last week some Year 10s were badgering me asking who I was voting for. One giggled and said “I bet sir votes Reform” and I replied with “I’m not a nasty little racist, so no”. Nothing more said, and no regrets.
If a child was racist in my classroom they would be sanctioned and their comments put on CPOMs. I don’t see what’s impartial about calling out adults on the same thing
No. We shouldn't be impartial when it comes to upholding human rights. I'll be impartial when it comes to questions like "should we fund education or health more?" or "should the tax rate be 15% or 20%?" or "should we close the library or the swimming pool?"
I think that’s a tough one. I think we should be encouraged to share opinions as an open conversation as long as we’re not pushing them on the students. I really don’t think it benefits anybody to hide everybody’s character.
You don’t have to be impartial with your view. You shouldn’t present your political view as fact but you don’t have to do a “all sides are all equal”, especially with the older ones.
If you explain the reform manifesto these things take care of themselves. Them wanting to leave NATO and cozy to Russia tend to do the job for a lot of young people. Explaining the nuance behind immigration helps too
I took 20 minutes out a lesson today to go through reforms manifesto in an unrelated subject. Make sure to say positive things where they're due because that is impartiality that the kids respect.
I always say the current levels of immigration are a problem due to lack of services being built to support a larger population but immigration is an important healthy part of society with the right numbers. They support increased NHS funding which is good then tear the rest apart
You can be vocal and impartial. Nigel lies and chats shit on tiktok brain washing, simply shining a light on his whole career and bullshit manifesto is what the kids deserve. Comparing them to other manifestos helps, all parties have something about immigration and the NHS without leaving NATO and the echr whilst reducing tax on the wealthy
I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to this (unless your school has a weird impartial policy or something). I used to teach politics and all of the politics teachers (and others) would discuss our views.
I mentioned the 2010 Equality Act and their plans to abolish it, despite the fact that it literally does nothing but protect our more vulnerable members of society
The DfE says the law says:
We should not give partisan political views and we should expose the children to a range of political views.
I'd argue calling Farage isn't a partisan political viewpoint. No party has that in their manifesto or is pushing that as a voting point. It's a no different to saying Andrew Tate is a cunt (maybe don't say that to the kids though) or Hitler was evil. It just happens that Farage is a leader of a party. It doesn't make him immune from criticism.
Saying things like "Labour will fix education" or the "Tories ruined the country because X" is what you are supposed to avoid unless it's a quote from something else and there's a range of quotes not just anti one party.
Eh who cares, it's fine. I make my politics very clear to any student who pays attention. It has never been an issue, especially since I caveat everything with a disclaimer that my opinion is just an opinion
Relax. At worst this is a minor telling off from your HoD, even if it gets reported (which it probably won't).
I got asked the same question by my Y9s this morning, so I replied I would vote for Count Binface if he was standing in my constituency, which he isn't. Always go for the most ridiculous answer you can muster, and don't feed the trolls by shutting down off-task conversation with a useless answer!
It was a cover lesson (emergency), so I had no work for the kids to do. They were a Boy's PE class, so they were winding each other up a lot. The political discussions were preventing them from punching each other.
We did talk more about politics, and the kids did say some extremist things, so I had to report it. I wrote that I said I thought Nigel Farage was racist in my write-up. I could've let it die, and nothing would have happened, but it felt wrong.
Maybe I'll get into trouble at some point, but I got asked if I thought why I wouldn't vote Reform in tutor, and replied with "because I think they're a racist party and I'm not a racist"
If they're really do desperate to fire maths teachers maybe they'll fire me, crack on.
Whilst probably nothing would happen, it's worth noting DfE does have guidelines about political impartiality. I try to give a fair and balanced view, but so do the BBC and we know what that looks like.
You'll be fine
Good for you. Just say you are ‘supposed to challenge extremist ideologies’. Even some of Reform’s own candidates think the party is racist and have defected to the Tories.
We've got some parents in EDL and are in a very right wing community with pockets of nasty racists so I see it as my duty to balance out their opinions with my alternative viewpoint for true impartiality. I preface everything with 'well I am your teacher and I therefore have to remain impartial but perhaps if you asked someone similar to me on the street what they might say is:' and then give my opinion. we are also supposed to give a balanced argument so I'll often point out something in the reform policy for example and then show them something from the Green party or Lib Dem or whatever and ask them to use their critical thinking skills to work out which they would like in place and which would make society better.
Works well alongside studying stuff like An Inspector Calls and A Christmas Carol
I said the same thing when a few of my year 8 and 9 boys proudly announced their support for Farage. I must have made a face because they asked about it and I blurted out that Nigel Farage is a racist and a vile human being. Nothing came of it 🤷🏻♀️
Although he hasn't said anything explicitly racist, just with a clever undertone of it, 3 members of his party have had to leave as a result of direct comments that were racially insensitive (to put it in a neutral way).
You'll be fine. I've definitely made worse comments although I tend now to go more along the "I care about how other people are treated and that EVERYONE is respected so I'll vote for a party that aligns with my values."
But.. he is racist? It's a fact. I think if anything came of it you could just defend your viewpoint and highlight the plethora of incidences in the news lately of Farage and his party members being legit racist.
You are not the first teacher or the last teacher to call him a racist. [Nige the Racist and Fascist](https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farage-ukip-letter-school-concerns-racism-fascism) [link 2](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-most-controversial-moments-ukip-brexit-b1122381.html)
It's OK. He is.
I heard students say it and agreed with them this afternoon. Don't bring it up in the staff room. Hopefully, it will be forgotten.
It's the Tories we are banned from talking about!
You didn't reveal your political leaning, just that you didn't agree with him.
I wouldn't worry, don't bring it up with colleagues, just forget it. If I am asked about my political viewpoint, I just say that I am not allowed to influence them but any student who listens to me would soon work out how I would vote.
It's usually best to reply in general terms even if it's really your opinion. You could say many people won't because they think he's said racist things. That's obviously true, but doesn't suggest your opinion.
Probably fine as a one-time slip, even if there's a complaint it will likely go no further than your line manager.
I wouldn’t worry! I quite enjoy having fun with rules like this. I will always repeat the company line in a monotone voice (there can a lot of political debate in English) but there’s nothing to say I can’t do wiggle my eyebrows in agreement, especially when they all decided Boris was essentially squealer from ‘Animal Farm’!
If the child tells their parent this, and their parents complains, then the school will have to give you some sort of slap on the wrist. Technically, you've broken the rules here. In practice, it won't matter.
I am so naive I had no idea this was even something to be concerned about. I am a science teacher but teach PSHE once a week to year 9 and since the general election was announced we were given lessons to complete all about it, discussing the manifestos of labour, Tory, Lib Dem and Green, but not reform. I’ve been asked a few times why reform isn’t on there and I’ve openly said we don’t support them and they don’t support trans rights, which discriminates against certain pupils in our school… oops
Personally although I know it was accidentally done, I think year 10 boys will like him more if you call him a racist. The reason Farage and Trump are popular is because the mainstream media call them a "racist" person etc, when they are clearly talking about illegal immigration being too high. That's not racist, and riles up people to support them. If they were not called a racist to begin with and left to run on their policy alone nobody would even care about them.
I'm non-teaching support staff in a school. I don't understand what's so wrong with saying that. I don't understand half of what the newly qualified teachers worry so much about.
I know you're young and you're in a school so it feels like you're going to be told off all the time, but you're actually adults now. Just make mistakes and learn from them. Don't kill a child. Try not to swear.
Many people feel Mr Farage is a racist, I heard Kier Starmer being called a racist the other day. The word racist isn't a slur, it's a description of someone's words and actions. If you think he's a racist, he can't arrest you, it's fine.
I'm sorry not to be more help. As a parent, I would have no issue with you saying that, as long as it didn't get in the way of teaching your subject. Let the downvotes commence!
We have regulations and laws that lay out what we can and can’t say about things like politics. It comes under part 2 of the Teachers standards (professional conduct).
The Education act (1996) bans the promotion of partisan political views and we should provide a balanced presentation of opposing views
to
a) uphold fundamental British values of democracy, liberty, rule of law and
b) not express personal beliefs which might exploit any _potential_ vulnerability.
DfE guidance says we should avoid giving our own views on political issues unless we’re sure this doesn’t amount to promoting that view to pupils. We can say who we’re voting for if asked but not present our ideals as absolute fact.
We can call out disinformation, and tell them all sides of an argument but not say which party is/isn’t right.
Basically we have to be a bit like the BBC here to avoid the appearance of trying to influence students
This comes from edapt who provide legal support to school staff.
I believe it’s technically allowed but unadvisable for the obvious influence reasons e.g. “Mr Endospire said that he’s voting Labour so I think you should vote Labour cos they must be right” (obvious ‘this is stupidly hyperbolic and not realistic’ disclaimer). This is also a problem when you teach yr 13 who can vote and may be easily swayed by an opinionated teacher with a strong personality.
It’s all “if’s and but’s” but the real line isn’t what we say, it’s what we’re seen or thought to be saying with any influence.
Earlier this year I went on a mini rant when asked about my thoughts about Musk. I brough tit up to my head and she laughed and reminded me that, it's one of those things she doesn't feel too strongly about but I still have to present any personal opinion as something that can be open minded and questioned.
Instead, I shot him down rather dismissively and called his supporters (some of whom are in my class) deluded. That's not so cool, but all I got was a jolly reminder of my duties.
They ask you what you thought and you told them. You shared an opinion and did not present it as fact.
Shouldn't be an issue. If it is an issue, ask SLT for greater clarity about what is appropriate to share.
Last year, my Y9 class was complaining about the strikes. I explained to them that the reason I was striking was to make sure that the government funded my pay rise as I didn't want it to come out of the money meant for their education. I got a standing ovation.
[Uh huh](https://hopenothate.org.uk/chapter/who-is-nigel-farage/)
> Farage said on LBC Radio in 2014: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be”. Upon being asked whether he would object to living next door to German children, he replied “You know what the difference is”.
> During the Referendum Farage collaborated with Leave.EU, the unofficial Brexit campaign run by Farage’s longtime ally Arron Banks and co-founded by Brexit Party chairman Richard Tice, which relentlessly sought to link immigrants and Muslims to violence and societal decline.
> Farage defended a UKIP candidate’s use of the slur “ch*nky”, stating “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?”
Farage’s method for controlling illegal immigration is to change the legislation. Does he know what illegal means? Do you know what illegal means? Crime will happen regardless of the law. And by the way the only way he can remove the right for people to claim asylum is to remove the uk from the ECHR. Do you want your human rights removed? We’ve seen how well we govern our own waterways since brexit removed the EU legislation on the environment. How many of our human rights do you think we will retain after they are butchered by Farage? Given the uk reliance on foreign nationals in the education and healthcare systems we don’t want to make things hostile for immigrants. Helping people from war torn countries is an ethical dilemma. Would we want our own to be helped if we were invaded? Of course. The problem is sifting through the economic migrants to find genuine refugees. I’m not sure what people have against economic migrants either. They contribute to the economy and take out less than they put in overall. Our asylum system is broken because of Tory underfunding. It’s not broken because of the number of migrants. Other countries manage a much larger number of migrants and integrate them successfully. The answer isn’t to stop migrants, the answer is to fix the system currently in place.
I’m a legal immigrant. I’m all for deporting illegals but I don’t think the way he talks means he cares about legal/illgeal. I’d vote any of Conservative/Lib Dem, maybe even Labour ahead of him.
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They shouldn't ask questions they aren't prepared to hear answers to. When Andrew Tate was a thing last year I was asked if I like him to which I told a group of lads eager for my opinion he's a human trafficking rapist obsessed with showing his body to teenage boys, they looked appalled I'd spoken ill of their messiah
Meh. Last week some Year 10s were badgering me asking who I was voting for. One giggled and said “I bet sir votes Reform” and I replied with “I’m not a nasty little racist, so no”. Nothing more said, and no regrets.
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If a child was racist in my classroom they would be sanctioned and their comments put on CPOMs. I don’t see what’s impartial about calling out adults on the same thing
No. We shouldn't be impartial when it comes to upholding human rights. I'll be impartial when it comes to questions like "should we fund education or health more?" or "should the tax rate be 15% or 20%?" or "should we close the library or the swimming pool?"
Germany was full of impartial people and we know how that ended
I think that’s a tough one. I think we should be encouraged to share opinions as an open conversation as long as we’re not pushing them on the students. I really don’t think it benefits anybody to hide everybody’s character.
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There aren't two sides to racism. UK law makes that clear.
You don’t have to be impartial with your view. You shouldn’t present your political view as fact but you don’t have to do a “all sides are all equal”, especially with the older ones.
We are told in our school that we have to be impartial 🤯
If you explain the reform manifesto these things take care of themselves. Them wanting to leave NATO and cozy to Russia tend to do the job for a lot of young people. Explaining the nuance behind immigration helps too
I teach in a school with a very diverse community - over 75% EAL. But we have to stay impartial 🤯
It's so difficult - especially in the subject I teach. But I have to try
I took 20 minutes out a lesson today to go through reforms manifesto in an unrelated subject. Make sure to say positive things where they're due because that is impartiality that the kids respect. I always say the current levels of immigration are a problem due to lack of services being built to support a larger population but immigration is an important healthy part of society with the right numbers. They support increased NHS funding which is good then tear the rest apart
That's a good way of doing it - I honestly try to stay impartial but as a teacher who has visibly striked nationally and internally I think they know
You can be vocal and impartial. Nigel lies and chats shit on tiktok brain washing, simply shining a light on his whole career and bullshit manifesto is what the kids deserve. Comparing them to other manifestos helps, all parties have something about immigration and the NHS without leaving NATO and the echr whilst reducing tax on the wealthy
I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to this (unless your school has a weird impartial policy or something). I used to teach politics and all of the politics teachers (and others) would discuss our views.
I’ve made some Thatcher comments that make this look like a compliment
Well, if it walks like a duck… Frankly I’d stand my ground if I was told off, we’re supposed to promote British values, and Nigel Farage does not.
I mentioned the 2010 Equality Act and their plans to abolish it, despite the fact that it literally does nothing but protect our more vulnerable members of society
The DfE says the law says: We should not give partisan political views and we should expose the children to a range of political views. I'd argue calling Farage isn't a partisan political viewpoint. No party has that in their manifesto or is pushing that as a voting point. It's a no different to saying Andrew Tate is a cunt (maybe don't say that to the kids though) or Hitler was evil. It just happens that Farage is a leader of a party. It doesn't make him immune from criticism. Saying things like "Labour will fix education" or the "Tories ruined the country because X" is what you are supposed to avoid unless it's a quote from something else and there's a range of quotes not just anti one party.
Eh who cares, it's fine. I make my politics very clear to any student who pays attention. It has never been an issue, especially since I caveat everything with a disclaimer that my opinion is just an opinion
Relax. At worst this is a minor telling off from your HoD, even if it gets reported (which it probably won't). I got asked the same question by my Y9s this morning, so I replied I would vote for Count Binface if he was standing in my constituency, which he isn't. Always go for the most ridiculous answer you can muster, and don't feed the trolls by shutting down off-task conversation with a useless answer!
It was a cover lesson (emergency), so I had no work for the kids to do. They were a Boy's PE class, so they were winding each other up a lot. The political discussions were preventing them from punching each other. We did talk more about politics, and the kids did say some extremist things, so I had to report it. I wrote that I said I thought Nigel Farage was racist in my write-up. I could've let it die, and nothing would have happened, but it felt wrong.
OMRLP FTW
Maybe I'll get into trouble at some point, but I got asked if I thought why I wouldn't vote Reform in tutor, and replied with "because I think they're a racist party and I'm not a racist" If they're really do desperate to fire maths teachers maybe they'll fire me, crack on.
Whilst probably nothing would happen, it's worth noting DfE does have guidelines about political impartiality. I try to give a fair and balanced view, but so do the BBC and we know what that looks like. You'll be fine
Good for you. Just say you are ‘supposed to challenge extremist ideologies’. Even some of Reform’s own candidates think the party is racist and have defected to the Tories.
“No, you’ve got to have received an education to be a teacher so that rules me out of voting Reform”.
We've got some parents in EDL and are in a very right wing community with pockets of nasty racists so I see it as my duty to balance out their opinions with my alternative viewpoint for true impartiality. I preface everything with 'well I am your teacher and I therefore have to remain impartial but perhaps if you asked someone similar to me on the street what they might say is:' and then give my opinion. we are also supposed to give a balanced argument so I'll often point out something in the reform policy for example and then show them something from the Green party or Lib Dem or whatever and ask them to use their critical thinking skills to work out which they would like in place and which would make society better. Works well alongside studying stuff like An Inspector Calls and A Christmas Carol
I said the same thing when a few of my year 8 and 9 boys proudly announced their support for Farage. I must have made a face because they asked about it and I blurted out that Nigel Farage is a racist and a vile human being. Nothing came of it 🤷🏻♀️
Although he hasn't said anything explicitly racist, just with a clever undertone of it, 3 members of his party have had to leave as a result of direct comments that were racially insensitive (to put it in a neutral way). You'll be fine. I've definitely made worse comments although I tend now to go more along the "I care about how other people are treated and that EVERYONE is respected so I'll vote for a party that aligns with my values."
But.. he is racist? It's a fact. I think if anything came of it you could just defend your viewpoint and highlight the plethora of incidences in the news lately of Farage and his party members being legit racist.
You are not the first teacher or the last teacher to call him a racist. [Nige the Racist and Fascist](https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farage-ukip-letter-school-concerns-racism-fascism) [link 2](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-most-controversial-moments-ukip-brexit-b1122381.html)
It's OK. He is. I heard students say it and agreed with them this afternoon. Don't bring it up in the staff room. Hopefully, it will be forgotten. It's the Tories we are banned from talking about!
You didn't reveal your political leaning, just that you didn't agree with him. I wouldn't worry, don't bring it up with colleagues, just forget it. If I am asked about my political viewpoint, I just say that I am not allowed to influence them but any student who listens to me would soon work out how I would vote.
It's usually best to reply in general terms even if it's really your opinion. You could say many people won't because they think he's said racist things. That's obviously true, but doesn't suggest your opinion. Probably fine as a one-time slip, even if there's a complaint it will likely go no further than your line manager.
I wouldn’t worry! I quite enjoy having fun with rules like this. I will always repeat the company line in a monotone voice (there can a lot of political debate in English) but there’s nothing to say I can’t do wiggle my eyebrows in agreement, especially when they all decided Boris was essentially squealer from ‘Animal Farm’!
If we're getting in trouble for stating facts now teaching is going to become difficult.
Most parents would be very proud on your behalf
If the child tells their parent this, and their parents complains, then the school will have to give you some sort of slap on the wrist. Technically, you've broken the rules here. In practice, it won't matter.
He is, isn't he?
Nah, he’s a racist who can feck off. Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
I showed mine a bunch of articles about reform and how they keep haemorrhaging members because they are racist and hideous so similar really
I am so naive I had no idea this was even something to be concerned about. I am a science teacher but teach PSHE once a week to year 9 and since the general election was announced we were given lessons to complete all about it, discussing the manifestos of labour, Tory, Lib Dem and Green, but not reform. I’ve been asked a few times why reform isn’t on there and I’ve openly said we don’t support them and they don’t support trans rights, which discriminates against certain pupils in our school… oops
You could say the same about some of those other parties too though...
Fuck it. Deny it if anyone kicks off 🤣
Personally although I know it was accidentally done, I think year 10 boys will like him more if you call him a racist. The reason Farage and Trump are popular is because the mainstream media call them a "racist" person etc, when they are clearly talking about illegal immigration being too high. That's not racist, and riles up people to support them. If they were not called a racist to begin with and left to run on their policy alone nobody would even care about them.
I'm non-teaching support staff in a school. I don't understand what's so wrong with saying that. I don't understand half of what the newly qualified teachers worry so much about. I know you're young and you're in a school so it feels like you're going to be told off all the time, but you're actually adults now. Just make mistakes and learn from them. Don't kill a child. Try not to swear. Many people feel Mr Farage is a racist, I heard Kier Starmer being called a racist the other day. The word racist isn't a slur, it's a description of someone's words and actions. If you think he's a racist, he can't arrest you, it's fine. I'm sorry not to be more help. As a parent, I would have no issue with you saying that, as long as it didn't get in the way of teaching your subject. Let the downvotes commence!
We have regulations and laws that lay out what we can and can’t say about things like politics. It comes under part 2 of the Teachers standards (professional conduct). The Education act (1996) bans the promotion of partisan political views and we should provide a balanced presentation of opposing views to a) uphold fundamental British values of democracy, liberty, rule of law and b) not express personal beliefs which might exploit any _potential_ vulnerability. DfE guidance says we should avoid giving our own views on political issues unless we’re sure this doesn’t amount to promoting that view to pupils. We can say who we’re voting for if asked but not present our ideals as absolute fact. We can call out disinformation, and tell them all sides of an argument but not say which party is/isn’t right. Basically we have to be a bit like the BBC here to avoid the appearance of trying to influence students This comes from edapt who provide legal support to school staff.
>We can say who we’re voting for if asked I thought we weren't allowed to do this either
I believe it’s technically allowed but unadvisable for the obvious influence reasons e.g. “Mr Endospire said that he’s voting Labour so I think you should vote Labour cos they must be right” (obvious ‘this is stupidly hyperbolic and not realistic’ disclaimer). This is also a problem when you teach yr 13 who can vote and may be easily swayed by an opinionated teacher with a strong personality. It’s all “if’s and but’s” but the real line isn’t what we say, it’s what we’re seen or thought to be saying with any influence.
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying!
I do if I'm asked and it's relevant, as far as I can see it's totally permissible so long as you follow the caveats above.
small potatoes
Earlier this year I went on a mini rant when asked about my thoughts about Musk. I brough tit up to my head and she laughed and reminded me that, it's one of those things she doesn't feel too strongly about but I still have to present any personal opinion as something that can be open minded and questioned. Instead, I shot him down rather dismissively and called his supporters (some of whom are in my class) deluded. That's not so cool, but all I got was a jolly reminder of my duties.
You're not wrong 🤷🏼♂️
It's easy to back up as true
He is though.
It's okay to have strong views on things - my classes will always realise very quickly I hate Man United, for instance!
They ask you what you thought and you told them. You shared an opinion and did not present it as fact. Shouldn't be an issue. If it is an issue, ask SLT for greater clarity about what is appropriate to share.
I mean this is objectively true as there’s significant evidence to support it
I was asked the same question by a Y10 and replied “I’d rather eat my own face than vote for Farage”. Happily stand by that if ever pulled up.
Last year, my Y9 class was complaining about the strikes. I explained to them that the reason I was striking was to make sure that the government funded my pay rise as I didn't want it to come out of the money meant for their education. I got a standing ovation.
no, but nf isnt racist. he wants to control illegal immigration a lot better than we are doing. like every other country.
He is racist.
[Uh huh](https://hopenothate.org.uk/chapter/who-is-nigel-farage/) > Farage said on LBC Radio in 2014: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be”. Upon being asked whether he would object to living next door to German children, he replied “You know what the difference is”. > During the Referendum Farage collaborated with Leave.EU, the unofficial Brexit campaign run by Farage’s longtime ally Arron Banks and co-founded by Brexit Party chairman Richard Tice, which relentlessly sought to link immigrants and Muslims to violence and societal decline. > Farage defended a UKIP candidate’s use of the slur “ch*nky”, stating “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?”
Farage’s method for controlling illegal immigration is to change the legislation. Does he know what illegal means? Do you know what illegal means? Crime will happen regardless of the law. And by the way the only way he can remove the right for people to claim asylum is to remove the uk from the ECHR. Do you want your human rights removed? We’ve seen how well we govern our own waterways since brexit removed the EU legislation on the environment. How many of our human rights do you think we will retain after they are butchered by Farage? Given the uk reliance on foreign nationals in the education and healthcare systems we don’t want to make things hostile for immigrants. Helping people from war torn countries is an ethical dilemma. Would we want our own to be helped if we were invaded? Of course. The problem is sifting through the economic migrants to find genuine refugees. I’m not sure what people have against economic migrants either. They contribute to the economy and take out less than they put in overall. Our asylum system is broken because of Tory underfunding. It’s not broken because of the number of migrants. Other countries manage a much larger number of migrants and integrate them successfully. The answer isn’t to stop migrants, the answer is to fix the system currently in place.
It saddens me that you are (presumably) a teacher
It was easier to deport criminals to Europe when we were *checks notes* in the EU - that thing he campaigned relentlessly to leave.
I’m a legal immigrant. I’m all for deporting illegals but I don’t think the way he talks means he cares about legal/illgeal. I’d vote any of Conservative/Lib Dem, maybe even Labour ahead of him.