Phoebe needed to be more in S3- she made any episode she was in better. So glad everyone saw how talented Elodie the actress was and kept writing her in when Phoebe was just supposed to be a one off appearance in S1 episode 3.
Sam's dad was almost too perfect. There was no room for growth or story.
To be honest I had a hard time relating or understanding Ola because I never grew up with a dad who wasn't incredibly selfish and showed no love lol.
I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way as well. He's so alien with the love he gives Sam.
I understood Ola's presence as a way to explain why Sam is the way he is, more than showing how he is as a dad. I found it more interesting to look at it from that angle at least because Sam obviously has a lot of his own struggles
"I love meeting people's moms. It's like reading an instruction manual as to why they're nuts."
Applies to dads too. Although in this case it is why he's so wonderful.
Yes I agree wholeheartedly! And when I meant Sam his struggles, I think a lot of what he goes through is discovering the kind of man that he wants to be. And he ends up making choices that reflect his upbringing of caring for others, Nigerian pride, taking accountability, and rising above adversity.
I understand what the OC I responded to meant as well, and my comment was more on why I think the writers showed us this super supportive father figure:) !
Part of why I loved ola is because he reminded me so much of my own dad. I wish you experience that kind of love in your life, even if it’s not from your own dad 🩵
Next year, same match, Keeley brings Babs and then can’t find her for the entire time. Shot of the concierge with lipstick smeared all across his lips and one cheek, scurrying to the bathroom.
Ah, the Chorus. I love that those three got their night out with Coach Beard at Bones and Honey, and that they got the ultimate fan experience at the end of that classic episode.
I am good friends with one! Far as I know she liked that one scene near the end of season 2 and just thinks the idea is cute. I did see real people invested in it a little too much that they were a little disappointed but man. There was nothing to begin with lol
That locker room confrontation between him and jamie after the Man City match was so worth it in terms of finally seeing the culmination of both Jamie’s development and Roy’s It didn’t play anything as a joke the only joke that came out of the scene was done perfectly with beards “mind the door” “*oops*”
I know it might be a bit sappy and formulaic. But I loved Jaime’s dad’s arc. I’d like to think when he sobered up after the confrontation, he realized who he had become and wanted to be a better person.
I’ve known way too many people who failed to ever realize that or realized way too late in life that they burned their bridges. It also showed Jamie’s maturity by visiting him. I’d like to think that his dad isn’t “cured” but taking a step in the right direction.
I adored his arc as well. When they showed his friends toasting to him in the stands, tears started streaming down my face. When they showed where he actually ended up, it was a full on, hyperventilating sob.
No one is immune to the ripple effects of goodness of The Richmond Way. 🥹😭
This killed me. I started crying because I was like "now Jamie will never be able to establish a healthy relationship with his father." And then it showed him in rehab and I started crying HARDER because now Jamie WILL be able to establish a healthy relationship with his father.
One of the things I like most about TL is the theme that anyone -- ANYONE -- can be redeemed ... but they have to do the work. For me, it's the difference between forgiveness and redemption. Nate was forgiven by the team before he was brought back, but he was redeemed by his own actions. Jamie, Sr. is doing the work of redemption by seeking help and working on himself, and that probably led to Jamie, Jr. forgiving him. Sometimes forgiveness comes first, sometimes redemption does, sometimes one leads to another, sometimes it doesn't.
That’s part of what I think made this show so popular. It was therapy that showed up at your house every week, breaking things down with real examples of how to take accountability, improve, and heal. It’s so much more than simply enriching our lives with entertainment.
Hell, I'm not sure S2 Jamie would have. But I think by S3 he had a solid idea about what it was like to be forgiven (and what it's like to do the work for redemption) and how powerful that can be. He had received grace, so he now had it in him to extend it.
What confrontation though? This is why Beard's after special is kind of meh to me. Had the last time we saw him, been Jamie punching him and Beard kicking him out of the locker room. I would have been perfect, he went to rehab.
However him kicking the shit out of beard showed he learned nothing.
Even if it is sappy and formulaic, that's often times what we need, yeah? Especially given what this show has come to represent, healing, recovery, building healthy relationships and the like. If you can't establish something of an ideal, then the rest is kind of just a hodge podge of trial and error without a goal... to which, it's weird for me to refer to Jaime's dad as a goal, but all things considered... 😅
I really appreciate Tartt Sr.'s actor for copying Phil Dunster's "being a prick" mannerisms so perfectly. It shows how much influence Jamie's father had on him before the start of the series.
It’s consolation for Isaac lovers that his major episode was one of the best in the series, Rainbow. He got to be frightened by that iconic moment where the cell phone lights up Roy Kent's face.
Rupert Mannion: Sassy.
Flo 'Sassy' Collins: Oh. Decrepit Shitbag.
Rupert Mannion: Oh, come on, Sass. Let's let bygones be bygones, eh? I've got a daughter now. I've changed.
Flo 'Sassy' Collins: Oh, right. Having a daughter erases all the shitty things you've done to women in your lifetime. Cool. Rupert, I think about your death every single day. Oh, I can't wait! I'm gonna wear red to your funeral. I will be a beacon of joy to the other three people there.
Rupert Mannion: Always a pleasure, Sassy.
Flo 'Sassy' Collins: Fuck off and die, Rupert.
of the team and coaching staff, I’d say Richard probably… others like Jan Maas, Bumbercatch and Thierry were of a similar level but I feel like Richard got fewer lines and less of a distinct personality than most - could be misremembering tho!
Would it not be great if they spun off the women's team like they teased in the finale and Shannon was on it. We could see her progression as a member of the Richmond development program, all the way to her being a starter for the team. I think that would be cool.
PB&J, most definitely. I wish they got more screentime, and I wish they actually went to the games more!! Why didn’t Ted ever hook ‘em up???
It’s because Mae would make way less money if they weren’t buying so many pints 😂
Remember when he introduced Sam to Banksie? And said "you both just met a cool person". That was Ted's thing with the driver from the airport (at the Indian restaurant he took Trent too). I wonder if that driver drove Edwin too and passed along that phrase
I think it’s more the reusing of lines. Like “is this a fucking joke” by Trent Crimm season 1 and Rebecca later in season 3. Or when Keely says “I never know what to say when someone beatboxes in front of me” and Roy later says “I never know what to say when someone does the Carlton in front of me” just another sweet little call back from the amazing writers who love continuity.
I don't think he was a cab driver, more of a car service. He had a sign to pick them up, and showed them around London too. I could be wrong, don't remember if we saw the car
Danny Rojas has relatively little screen time. But a better answer is Pheobe
![gif](giphy|ZIJDljyBKh88e95cR5|downsized) I named my dog after him based solely on watching Two Aces.
Pay the dog tax please and thank you.
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What a good dog!! Very appropriately named! Thank you for your payment, it is certainly appreciated.
ChuckIt Ball is LIFE!
Phoebe needed to be more in S3- she made any episode she was in better. So glad everyone saw how talented Elodie the actress was and kept writing her in when Phoebe was just supposed to be a one off appearance in S1 episode 3.
Football is life!
Also Nora would qualify as well.
bothers me that Nora was not in the final season at all
Nora is alright but definitely far from being that one character with massive popularity
Mucho, mucho joy!
“My mother says I was born caffeinated” is one of my favorite Dani lines!
Series 3 had an appalling lack of Phoebe
Bumbercatch
Came here to say Bumbercatch…not just because he’s the fit one on the team (per Colin).
“You’re Swiss?”
And fiercely anti-democratic.
FOLLOW THE MONEY
Yeah, can’t you tell?
I also came to this conclusion by following the money
This is the correct answer
"Knittin' soothes me"
Take my upvote.
Higgins wife
When she cheers at matches? Yes Mrs Higgins. Same. *
Mae
“It’s on me arse”
Poor little cake, soggy bottom!!
Sam’s Dad
Sam's dad was almost too perfect. There was no room for growth or story. To be honest I had a hard time relating or understanding Ola because I never grew up with a dad who wasn't incredibly selfish and showed no love lol. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way as well. He's so alien with the love he gives Sam.
I understood Ola's presence as a way to explain why Sam is the way he is, more than showing how he is as a dad. I found it more interesting to look at it from that angle at least because Sam obviously has a lot of his own struggles
"I love meeting people's moms. It's like reading an instruction manual as to why they're nuts." Applies to dads too. Although in this case it is why he's so wonderful.
"By the way how's Mrs.Beard?" "Full QAnon."
Yes I agree wholeheartedly! And when I meant Sam his struggles, I think a lot of what he goes through is discovering the kind of man that he wants to be. And he ends up making choices that reflect his upbringing of caring for others, Nigerian pride, taking accountability, and rising above adversity. I understand what the OC I responded to meant as well, and my comment was more on why I think the writers showed us this super supportive father figure:) !
Part of why I loved ola is because he reminded me so much of my own dad. I wish you experience that kind of love in your life, even if it’s not from your own dad 🩵
I mean I guess but great Dads do exist I wouldn't invalidate all fictional dad's from being good guys because some ars bad.
Daenerys Targaryen would never have locked Ola in a vault forever. Because he wouldn’t have tried to steal her dragons.
Trent Crimm, the independent
I want a 6-8 episode mini series on him!
Trent Crimm, Independent
Where is the love for Jan Maas????
Shut the fuck up Jan Maas
This is the only way I say shut up now
Not now Jan!!
Jan is so underrated. His one liner kill me
The hotel lobby guy - he packs so many good lines in his one scene "But my shift finishes at 9 if you're... no, of course, why would you?"
Charlie Hiscock (Will) auditioned for that role, which is how he landed Will. I could see him failing at flirting with Sassy.
Thanks for sharing this tid bit.
well might i suggest flushing it again, but harder
I've only just realised he's like a proto-Barbara
Omg, that would be a fun relationship with those two. Can we get s4 or a spin off yet?
Next year, same match, Keeley brings Babs and then can’t find her for the entire time. Shot of the concierge with lipstick smeared all across his lips and one cheek, scurrying to the bathroom.
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The obvious answer is Laughing Liam.
HA HA HA HA HA 😊
The man who's name I've forgotten who Beard sent the fans to during Beard after hours
Renee
Yes! Thank you
Renee. But looks like an Egor.
Yes! Thanks
Will
The big meaty bloke that chases Beard in 'Beard After Hours'.
I'm glad he was at the wedding
Roid Kent
British David Bautista.
Kokoruda.
That little girl is a *beast* on defense.
You know it
**B**az, Paul and Jeremy
Ah, the Chorus. I love that those three got their night out with Coach Beard at Bones and Honey, and that they got the ultimate fan experience at the end of that classic episode.
I'm sorry you mean PB&J?
OH MY GOD THIS TOOK ME TOO LONG BUT ITS TOO GOOD
Trent Crimm, on tumblr at least
This is my answer as well. Although, he played a bigger role in the development of the story in season 3.
On tumblr so many people ship Trent and Ted, which I find super interesting, because I did not get that vibe at all.
I am good friends with one! Far as I know she liked that one scene near the end of season 2 and just thinks the idea is cute. I did see real people invested in it a little too much that they were a little disappointed but man. There was nothing to begin with lol
I can tell you who had little screen time and had everybody hating him: James Tartt Sr.
That locker room confrontation between him and jamie after the Man City match was so worth it in terms of finally seeing the culmination of both Jamie’s development and Roy’s It didn’t play anything as a joke the only joke that came out of the scene was done perfectly with beards “mind the door” “*oops*”
I know it might be a bit sappy and formulaic. But I loved Jaime’s dad’s arc. I’d like to think when he sobered up after the confrontation, he realized who he had become and wanted to be a better person. I’ve known way too many people who failed to ever realize that or realized way too late in life that they burned their bridges. It also showed Jamie’s maturity by visiting him. I’d like to think that his dad isn’t “cured” but taking a step in the right direction.
I adored his arc as well. When they showed his friends toasting to him in the stands, tears started streaming down my face. When they showed where he actually ended up, it was a full on, hyperventilating sob. No one is immune to the ripple effects of goodness of The Richmond Way. 🥹😭
This killed me. I started crying because I was like "now Jamie will never be able to establish a healthy relationship with his father." And then it showed him in rehab and I started crying HARDER because now Jamie WILL be able to establish a healthy relationship with his father.
YES. Exactly that. So many people don’t find redemption in time. When someone does, it overwhelms me with emotion.
One of the things I like most about TL is the theme that anyone -- ANYONE -- can be redeemed ... but they have to do the work. For me, it's the difference between forgiveness and redemption. Nate was forgiven by the team before he was brought back, but he was redeemed by his own actions. Jamie, Sr. is doing the work of redemption by seeking help and working on himself, and that probably led to Jamie, Jr. forgiving him. Sometimes forgiveness comes first, sometimes redemption does, sometimes one leads to another, sometimes it doesn't.
That’s part of what I think made this show so popular. It was therapy that showed up at your house every week, breaking things down with real examples of how to take accountability, improve, and heal. It’s so much more than simply enriching our lives with entertainment.
It helped that Jamie also matured and seemingly had forgiven his dad. I don’t know that season 1 Jamie would have.
Hell, I'm not sure S2 Jamie would have. But I think by S3 he had a solid idea about what it was like to be forgiven (and what it's like to do the work for redemption) and how powerful that can be. He had received grace, so he now had it in him to extend it.
What confrontation though? This is why Beard's after special is kind of meh to me. Had the last time we saw him, been Jamie punching him and Beard kicking him out of the locker room. I would have been perfect, he went to rehab. However him kicking the shit out of beard showed he learned nothing.
Well, doesn’t he then get his own shit kicked out of him by pants-lady’s boyfriend? He looked like someone who could influence a come to Jesus moment.
Even if it is sappy and formulaic, that's often times what we need, yeah? Especially given what this show has come to represent, healing, recovery, building healthy relationships and the like. If you can't establish something of an ideal, then the rest is kind of just a hodge podge of trial and error without a goal... to which, it's weird for me to refer to Jaime's dad as a goal, but all things considered... 😅
That scene made me bawl my eyes out
I really appreciate Tartt Sr.'s actor for copying Phil Dunster's "being a prick" mannerisms so perfectly. It shows how much influence Jamie's father had on him before the start of the series.
The tongue waggle! Stretching his hips to loosen up for moving around the locker room. So subtle but very good work.
I would have loved more screen time for Isaac and Colin.
It’s consolation for Isaac lovers that his major episode was one of the best in the series, Rainbow. He got to be frightened by that iconic moment where the cell phone lights up Roy Kent's face.
Anyone else just upvoting every comment cos there are no wrong answers?
*Ssh!* We don't say the "U" word out loud... it's like saying *MacBeth* in a theater!
Haha brilliant
Ussie guy
Wicked
Kinky Boots
I laughed so fucking hard, I had to rewind
The posh twat.
my head canon is that he's some sort of guardian angel
He's the dentist's son. You see him there at Christmas in Carol of the Bells.
who just happened to be the last hope of Phoebe , being exactly what they needed exactly where they needed it.
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That’s… actually a pretty cool theory. He’s one of the first and last characters besides Ted and Beard that we see in the whole series
Oh count me in on this theory, immediately! He was there with Jamie in the barbers too, before he realised he needed to go back to Richmond.
Legend
Sassy Smurf has to be a top 5 response
Rupert Mannion: Sassy. Flo 'Sassy' Collins: Oh. Decrepit Shitbag. Rupert Mannion: Oh, come on, Sass. Let's let bygones be bygones, eh? I've got a daughter now. I've changed. Flo 'Sassy' Collins: Oh, right. Having a daughter erases all the shitty things you've done to women in your lifetime. Cool. Rupert, I think about your death every single day. Oh, I can't wait! I'm gonna wear red to your funeral. I will be a beacon of joy to the other three people there. Rupert Mannion: Always a pleasure, Sassy. Flo 'Sassy' Collins: Fuck off and die, Rupert.
Sassy: “I’d wish you the best but you the fucking worst” or something like that. Kills me everytime.
Distance makes the heart grow fond with her.
This is the answer. She’s genuinely only in 7 episodes across the entire series, and for a lot of those, not for very long.
She's my number one response ❤️
Knows Ted is eager to please
Jaimie’s mom. I think I need a hug right now.
For me it would be Kokoruda. https://preview.redd.it/7spsiabscwtc1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdac747f1753d84d1060d01a6f3d10a4f820e8e0
While I don't think he is popular fandom wide, I love him - O'Brien with the torn butt.
Led Tasso
Dany rojas by far.
Football is life🙌🏻
Barbara.
Her cheering for more blood in the final match cracks me up
how is paul not mentioned yet???
Earl Greyhound
Doctor O'Sullivan, aka Roy's sister and Phoebe's mum. I don't care if it costs me my eyes, she is fit.
of the team and coaching staff, I’d say Richard probably… others like Jan Maas, Bumbercatch and Thierry were of a similar level but I feel like Richard got fewer lines and less of a distinct personality than most - could be misremembering tho!
“We cannot fight them all” is one of my favorite lines.
Its Richard, not Richard 🤌🏽
The sports casters
“I miss Roy!”
Shannon! Still sad she didn’t get more screen time in S3.
Same! I hoped to see much more of her. Loved her whole vibe!
After she showed up that first time I felt they had greater things for her than just a less than a minute here and there. Sadly, I was wrong.
Would it not be great if they spun off the women's team like they teased in the finale and Shannon was on it. We could see her progression as a member of the Richmond development program, all the way to her being a starter for the team. I think that would be cool.
I was wishing for this too, with cameos from the guys team.
Ms Bowen
THANK YOU
That is the answer for me, wish we would have seen more of her - she was great! Pretty, Smart, funny, put Roy in his place...
I hope Roy ends up with her. Maybe in the reunion movie.
Will Kitman
That one tulip. Never seen on screen but the place it holds in my heart is immense.
It’s Sassy. She’s in eight total episodes.
Yes. I could go for a half hour of just Sassy. I mean, besides Ellie’s standup set.
That dog that got twonked and died. (Poor chap).
Earl
That’s a bad word uncle Roy!
Yeah, you owe me a pound, Jamie.
Definitely Van Damme. He wasn't even in a full season and then they just replace him with some guy named Zorro?!
Phoebe's teacher. I wanted Roy to end up with her. 😅
In my headcannon, he did.
No, thank you. She was so bland for Roy.
Fuck-witch bland? Really? What about her seems bland?
Maybe on the reunion movie ;-)
Georgie and Simon
Fuckwitch. I will not be taking questions.
Jade, which is short for Jaded... ...but I don't care.
Mr. Mann
Trent and Isaac maybe?
PB&J, most definitely. I wish they got more screentime, and I wish they actually went to the games more!! Why didn’t Ted ever hook ‘em up??? It’s because Mae would make way less money if they weren’t buying so many pints 😂
Omg! I just now realized their names were pb&j. Thank you for this amazing realization 😂
Sassy is an underrated character
Edwin Akufo
Remember when he introduced Sam to Banksie? And said "you both just met a cool person". That was Ted's thing with the driver from the airport (at the Indian restaurant he took Trent too). I wonder if that driver drove Edwin too and passed along that phrase
I think it’s more the reusing of lines. Like “is this a fucking joke” by Trent Crimm season 1 and Rebecca later in season 3. Or when Keely says “I never know what to say when someone beatboxes in front of me” and Roy later says “I never know what to say when someone does the Carlton in front of me” just another sweet little call back from the amazing writers who love continuity.
Oh true, that's possible
Edwin taking a cab?!?!?
I don't think he was a cab driver, more of a car service. He had a sign to pick them up, and showed them around London too. I could be wrong, don't remember if we saw the car
Edwin’s character is so wealthy his personal chauffeur and security detail transports him. There is no car service for Edwin.
I would have said Boba Fett, but then I saw which subreddit I am in 😁
don’t you fret, boba fett.
Babs.
Bumbercatch
Collin
S1 and S2 Trent.
Will!
Will.
colin
Barbara. An absolute gem of a character, beautifully acted.
Cab driver who’s family had the Indian restaurant
I've got to go with Akufo's Handshake Guy, not sure I've ever seen a man so dripping with rizz.
Sassy Smurf!
Trent
Susie guy too
Kitman!
For me, toad venom smoking bus driver.
Sam's Dad!
Shandy /s
trent!!!
Danny Danny Danny Rojas!
Phoebe's Teacher. Was really hoping she and Roy would be a thing, if only briefly.
I fucking love Dani Rojas and HE DESERVED MORE STORY ARCS AAAAAAUGGGH
Barbara, on party beast mode.
Roy’s sister
Sassy Smurf I could’ve used like a few more scenes of her roasting Rupert