Honestly, Tesla should do a better job of communicating this. Signage at Super Chargers would be great. You shouldn't need to be a Tesla nerd to know proper charging etiquette.
Even places that were supposedly V3s seem to have aggregate limits across the rack of chargers if they are busy or else it was just unusually cold when I went (around 0F)
V3s don’t necessarily split power like the V2s do but if you are at a very busy charger and lots of people JUST got there and are trying to charge at 250kw, you may not be able to get to peak speed because the “bay” of 4ish chargers do have a max output that varies from location to location. The entire supercharger location has a max output too so even though each charger is theoretically capable of 250kw individually, a 10 station charger doesn’t necessarily support charging at 2,500kw. Idk if I explained that properly but that may have been what you experienced.
No that makes absolute sense i assumed this was the case when ive went to some v3s tht seemingly had people just pull up and i was not getting 250 and was getting 180-210 on a Normal 240-250 charging range for my car. But not even a 5 mins later it ramped up more but not to 250 maybe around 240 though at most but that has to do with the 250 peaks not being a large portion of the percentage range of your battery when charging. But im not complaining if a bunch of people are all running near the peak charging portion of their battery and im still getting 200? Fuck yeah bc a v2 you'd be lucky to be getting 70 honestly
V3 is limited to 350kw ac input per bank of 4 chargers. It can also accept a DC line with other sets of 4 chargers or batteries though, so the potential power output of a bank of 4 chargers grows as the overall station grows.
Apparently you haven’t taken the trip down the shore then… most of the ones on the NJ Parkway are 150kW cape May, AC (EHT), Barnegat, Toms River, Asbury Park, half of the Woodbridge ones. That’s all of them below 195. Kearny, Edison, Robbinsville (95), Marlton, the new ones at Deptford, Paulsboro (95), Clayton DE (95), and if you’re in Old City in Philly, you’re lucky to get V1s at 72kW. So, maybe in if you’re in NNJ you get some V3s. But who needs that when you can just charge at home. When you need them is when you are traveling to beach house in Cape May. No? Also look at the lack of superchargers past Barnegat. There’s literally 2 from AC all the way to Cape May. - nice that the trip you took had the V3s I travel on a weekly basis up and down the shore from the city and down to Philly 3 times a month. The reality is that V2s are still here and prominent. There adding new ones but opting for V2s vs V3s in some instances. Come down the shore and let me know about those V3s.
I haven’t seen any info, but I imagine the CCS chargers will be new. There’s no way for the person to pay with a card at the current chargers, as the Tesla just manages it automatically. I’m assuming they’ll add new separate chargers as opposed to retrofitting all the old ones.
Have you heard anything about how that will work?
I don’t know anything about the way it will work but I imagine Tesla will force CCS users to use the app instead of trying to deal with credit card readers which is just another point of failure.
In terms of credit card, Tesla’s just going to handle it through their app. The person will have to set up a Tesla account with CC registered, then when they want to charge they do something special in the app to activate the particular charging stall. So that may not need new hardware at the stall.
But I don’t know if non-Tesla-owners will be carrying around huge adapters in large numbers, so they should be dependent on the stalls having CCS plugs, so *that* would probably require new stalls to be built.
Tesla has created the "Magic Dock" which releases the correct connector and can be retrofit to existing stalls:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/11a6tg4/magic\_dock\_installed\_on\_v3/
My area just lost power due to an ice storm. I just pulled up to a supercharger and there was one spot left so I’m all set. In the last 4 years I’ve never had to wait for a supercharger. I can’t imagine having to wait 20 minutes or longer just to start charging, I’m not looking forward to that.
I have had to wait a few times, but never long - a minute or two normally. Typical charge times are around 15 minutes and typically there are a dozen stalls so someone usually finishes a minute or two after you arrive, and every minute or two after that.
Honestly the pain is real in the UK when you see a bunch of non Tesla owners faffing back and forth trying to work out where the charge port is Vs cable length and then mess with the app and their car to get some charge all right next to you 
Agreed and some superchargers already have Tesla signage indicating this. I’ll have to find a photo but I’ve seen “1a 1b paired” or something to that effect
Signage would be good, but some type of indicator system to highlight the ideal charger would be even better. Maybe a green/yellow/red light on each charger indicating full speed, shared, or OoO.
And Tesla knows exactly who is plugged and where, so they should display a message on the screen when you arrive, like, “Go to the charger 3B for better performances”
Seems like the most user-friendly option would be to have the car pop up a message and say, “hey, we notice you can charge twice as fast one stall over”
But it would really need to tell you which stall because I’ve always found the A/B thing confusing and I think they are not always adjacent
There is a full 15" touchscreen in the car, just put a very visible note on the UI... Or just make a queueing system which tells you when and where to plug.
So we can finally avoid talking with these morons
Problem is not every SC is the same. In fact the only thing consistent about them seems to be inconsistency.
There are a number of them I've seen where it's a a a a b b b b and if spot 2 3 and 4 are full squeezing into spot 1 right next to one car or the other is the right move.
It's a matter of reading and knowledge. There are a lot of new owners and there are a LOT of v3. (As a person who has been making cross country trips since 2018 man is it wild how fast those made \*almost\* all v2s irrelevant.) We only use them on those annual trips. You could own a Tesla a loooooooong time these days and have never visited a v2.
This always has been, and remains, an area where Tesla NEEDS to step in. Even if you have perfect knowledge of how to v2 properly, you don't know the situation.
Tesla could easily have the car pop something up for that person and say "For an optimal charge experience use 1A 2A 3A 1B 2B or 3B." At v3s (without a busted stall) it could say "Any stall will provide an optimal experience."
It could help us Tesla vets because in the event all As are full it knows their current state of charge and the current charge limits, maybe even the destination the person has in mind. In other words it knows the person in 1A just got here and probably has 25 minutes to go. It knows the person in 2a got here 20 minutes ago, is at 75%, only needs 77% to continue. (Most importantly is already pulling a much smaller load than the other stalls.) So your car should tell you "For an optimal experience, use stall 2b".
It's just one of the many things where you shouldn't need a degree in Teslaology to drive one. They have the technology, and they should use it.
About the ONLY thing you could argue is a vague privacy concern since in a round about way it's telling someone when you're probably about to return to your car, but that's something that a) could be guessed with a tiny bit of surveillance b) will happen shortly eventually.
Anyone looking to murder you at a supercharger knows it's not going to be 3 hours until you're back.
For v2 superchargers they are always in a/b adjacent pairs. For v3 cars next to each other don’t share chargers so there is no reason for them to avoid side-by-side charging - the location as a whole has a capacity but it doesn’t matter which position you plug in. Though it never hurts to avoid side by side charging.
Assume the average Tesla owner knows 25% of what people on a Tesla subreddit do. I was talking to a buddy who is in Tech, who didn't know anything about Sentry Mode or Dashcam recording on his 2020 Model Y. I was like, dude, get a USB stick NOW.
I’ve been on here a while and I wasn’t aware of the splitting until somebody politely let me know at a supercharger either. Somebody mentioned above they should put a notice at the super chargers or maybe in the car itself.
Where is it at? I haven’t seen it. The only notifications I get when I’m supercharging is it will pop to watch something in the theater or play a game when I start it then when I have enough charge to continue my trip.
Or is it only if you’re splitting with somebody else?
You can, but USB sticks are generally lower capacity and less reliable than SSDs. I had trouble with multiple sticks back in 2019 and then got the fastest SSD I could find and it works great. I got a 240 GB model back then and see plenty of low cost high speed models out now at 1TB or more.
When I got mine, common advice was a high capacity/high write count/ surveillance style sd card with a usb/sd dongle. SSD seems easier/cheaper at this point and does the same thing. The SD card may arguably be smaller, but space inside the console hasn't really been my limiting factor.
Tesla also used to provide a "USB too slow" error when really it meant that the USB stick had been overwritten too many times and wasn't writable anymore. That may have also lead to the high longevity SD card recommendations.
I can't imagine owning a tech-forward car like this and not reading the manual and the release notes. Tesla added some onscreen guides to features to highlight them, but I'm not sure how well that works.
> I can't imagine owning a tech-forward car like this and not reading the manual and the release notes.
I bet most Tesla owners don’t read the manual and definitely not the release notes.
Tesla is more akin to a smartphone. What percent of smartphone owners have read the manual or release notes?
>What percent of smartphone owners have read the manual or release notes?
Tech-savvy people don't always realize how non-tech-savvy the average person is.
>I can't imagine owning a tech-forward car like this and not reading the manual and the release notes.
A lot of people here share this sentiment.
And this is EXACTLY what I mean when I say that Reddit is NOT representative of the majority of people out in the wild.
Reddit cares A LOT about things like privacy and consumer protections, and Tesla Reddit cares A LOT about Tesla's decisions in removing the USS and radar and how they only provided a yoke and didn't listen to their customers about phantom braking.
Average people just don't care. They're too busy with their life or job or kids or whatever to be worried about the convenience features their car has. It's a hard pill to swallow, but once you see it your perspective completely changes.
>that Reddit is NOT representative of the majority of people out in the wild.
Thank God. The amount of emotion on this site, regardless of which side of an issue, would make life unbearable in person.
>Average people just don't care.
I'm not sure what an "average" person is. Seems like a massive generalization.
I mean, I'd call it statistics instead of a generalization. I'm saying if you take 100k random Tesla owners (without choosing them from Reddit), there will be a significant chunk (like in a normal distribution) that simply never read the manual or update notes.
Generalizing would be me saying "those who don't update are idiots". I don't believe that at all. I think they have their reasons, but the point is, the group exists and there's A LOT of them.
This is typical among \*any\* technology user base. It's not unique to Tesla and it's not like it's a new phenomenon. Power users think everyone else is also a power user, and in reality they're like \~1% of the entire user base.
I'm in tech so I fully understand adoption curves. Where I disagree is that we're not anywhere close to a normal distribution yet.
If you agree with [this adoption curve](https://i0.wp.com/www.business-to-you.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technology-Adoption-Life-Cycle-Crossing-the-Chasm.png?ssl=1) (fairly typical one), and you look at Q4 2022 US Luxury market, Tesla sold roughly 25% of all luxury cars in America. That puts you across the chasm and into Early Majority.
To your point, EM is where there are people who are less likely to care about the tech. They also are less tolerant of "beta" software, which is evident if you surf through the Facebook Tesla groups. So many more people have beta access than are accustomed to being actual beta testers.
But we're not at a normal adoption curve yet. It feels like we're still in the middle of the (equivalent) iPhone / Android vs. BlackBerry curve.
I'm not really even talking about adoption curves. Even after iPhone adoption leveled out, there are still huge swaths of iPhone owners that just let updates install automatically without reading the release notes.
It's more about the % of people willing to look into more detail about the software vs. the % of people who just expect it to work 24/7 without ever thinking about it.
I totally disagree. Who is “majority of people” specifically in your mind?
Tesla had 1/4 of the luxury market sales in Q4 so you’re just barely past early adopters on a typical tech adoption scale. Those are the type of people in the 2M plus main Tesla subreddit or on Twitter. Of course there are some people like you describe (they’re in the Facebook groups) but they are the minority.
You can be parked next to a volcano in an empty parking lot of a grocery store and someone will come park next to you for some reason. It's the stupidest logic in the world.
There’s no excuse for his behavior but he might not even be the owner of the car. While many of us enjoy the tech of these cars, those that are less comfortable with tech find the cars to be annoying/intimidating. He was already agitated about *something* before you said anything.
Hopefully you both can enjoy the remainder of your day. :-)
Maybe he was on the call with an automated phone tree system and just trying to talk to the gotdang store but the AI doesn't understand that so it's the third time you're calling the dumb tree just trying to talk to any agent and you're super annoyed.
Maybe that's how his morning went and he's still ticked off about it. Grrrr
If Tesla would implement a queueing system or RECOMMEND a stall, this could potentially avoid situations like this.
"We see you are nearing your destination. For the fastest charging, we recommend charger 3A, 5B, or 6A."
I think OP told his story in a confusing way - i think OP got out of car and told the person before moving their own car. I don't think the other person moved to again be splitting.
Yes that’s right. Before I could even get back in my car to move it, he freaked out and moved his car to another circuit, even though I told him I was moving my car. So I just stayed where I was, finished charging and got the hell out of Dodge.
> Those are v3 chargers that do not have this kind of circuit splitting.
No, they have a fancier circuit splitting, starting with much bigger power pool. Not just 150 kW across 2 stalls.
I’m guessing you weren’t at a v3 Supercharger location? I’m still awaiting my first Tesla, so forgive the newbie assumption - but there isn’t a stall/power sharing concern with v3/250kW locations, correct? Basing it on what I’m reading [here](https://www.tesla.com/blog/introducing-v3-supercharging). Also, sorry this happened to you - I guess it’s a good reminder that asshats exist, no matter the car.
Car shows 267 or 269 miles randomly when full. Never fully consistent. 22 RWD. Since it’s cold right now, I don’t have realistic range. I just know I can go a week on warm weather sometimes more without charging. I charge with 20% or lower since It’s public charging and charge to 100%
Not entirely true...v3 can still suffer from load sharing/not getting full 250kW. Tesla has been known to open v3 superchargers where the transformer(s) is undersized and can't supply 250kW to all cars.
A local 12 stall SC is affected by this with anything over 2 cars or 3 cars (depending on which stall they use)
How do you figure? OPs topic was about his charge rate slowing down due to someone charging beside him. Some v3 sites can have that happen, even if mostly empty and if someone isn't charging in the neighboring stall...
Some people (obviously not you) may like to know that their charge speed could also be impacted by someone plugging in, not even next to them, at a v3 charger (which isn't well known, as Tesla had claimed this would not happen at v3 SCs, yet it might).
The V3 Superchargers are still limited by the input power. A 4 station V3 charger must share 350kw across the 4 stalls - you cannot pull 250kw simultaneously from all 4 stalls.
Each 4 stall segment of a 250kw installation can share with another 4 stall installation so the more V3 stalls a station gets, the likelihood of getting a full 250kw goes up. Or if there is a battery on location.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/pictures-of-v3-supercharger-cabinets.158697/page-2#post-5508897
Not a 250kW SC. I’ve seen my charge rate plummet in the past when another driver gloms on to the same circuit at this SC. If it’s crowded that’s one thing, but when I’m the only car charging it’s annoying. Also I’ve noticed that the drain is even more noticeable if the other car is a late model M3/Y. The flow seems disproportionately metered out to the newer CCS-compatible cars, even though we’re both using the same Tesla connector.
This suggestion actually shows up in the Supercharging Tips screen. You can pull it up by going to the charging screen and tapping the link. It also appears when you supercharge for the first time I believe. They added this last year but I'm sure it gets buried and ignored.
Important that state that this only happens at older 150Kw stations. These stations are far less common that 250Kw stations currently being deployed.
Given that people freak out over this even at the 250Kw stations, I hope you're not making this same mistake.
Why should someone have to do any more research beyond what is communicated to them from Tesla?
Tesla tells you to pull up and plug in. They don't specify anywhere in the process clearly to avoid specific stalls.
So many people in this sub are such dorks.
I never used to have to use a SC either. After we moved, we’re in an apartment and although we’re lucky enough to have a garage with a 120v 12A outlet, I can’t replace the commuting mileage during the week on that trickle charge alone.
I’m managing a project to install L2 EVSEs at my workplace, taking advantage of a utility-paid pilot program. It can’t happen soon enough for me. A quick once a week charge at work and I’ll rarely need to go to that SC again.
Tesla should send out like monthly or quarterly newsletters to all its customers explaining things like this. Benefits of circuit splitting when available. Differences between SC levels which is obvious but a lot of people don't understand why it takes longer to charge on 150kw etc. Importance and benefits of preconditioning battery before using a SC. How to read the stats. And another more. Al Tesla owners have emails so in my opinion a newsletter would be great. Oh and when a newsletter comes out Tesla can push a notification via app or even ar display. Not everybody goes view Tesla fan sites.
I’m just going to throw this low tech proposal out there. A 3-color LED on top of the charger. Green = Open - full power available; Yellow = Circuit In Use - reduced power; Red= Out of Service.
He had an emotional reaction to a mistake because he's afraid of them. He experienced embarrassment and did not know how to handle it. In my opinion this is largely due to the way we do our public schooling, teaching people that mistakes are bad things to make.
Forget supercharging and split current and everything else... Why would you park directly next to someone in an empty lot??
It's like the urinals in the men's room. Same energy.
Tip for anyone reading this. If you ever see an open nose in station PLEASE leave it open unless it's like 12am. Us people who are towing things or have bikes on the trailer hitch have a WAY harder time backing in to a charger than you do and those chargers make it so we don't have to spend 10 mins backing into one of the chargers and possibly damaging your car
Look, this is your fault for living in the United States. If you lived up here in Canada, odds are the reaction you would have gotten would have been... "Seriously? Oh man, I didn't know. I'm sorry about that. Give me a second and I'll just move over a few spots. Again, sorry about that and thanks for letting me know about this."
I always point it out. I had a Karen flip out at me a few weeks ago for doing so. I don’t care, they learn and from then on hopefully don’t do it. Keep pointing it out. The more normal people buying Teslas means the average owner IQ goes down. We’ve all seen it, especially those of us who’ve been around since the early days.
If it helps and you’re a meek person, just remember they’re usually passing through and you’ll never see them again anyway.
Hah! I’ll have to share the “meek person” comment with my wife. I usually mind my own business around here because ppl are packing heat and there’s an abundance of the hotheaded “Florida Man” to go around.
I’m an early adopter too and a bit analytical about almost everything. I noticed the dip in charge rate effect the first time it happened. A Tesla tech happened to be servicing the SC one day and he confirmed my observation about the a/b power distribution at my local SC. YMMV.
If you were there first, then he will only get the power that your car isn't able to take. In other words, it should only be slower for the last person to connect. At least that's how it's worked on the a-b stations I've been to.
Almost as bad is when there’s several empty spaces in a row and someone leaves 2 spaces between you and them. Inevitably, someone is now going to have to park next to one of us.
Tesla provides the information in the charging menu, under “supercharging tips.” So you aren’t born with any information. The difference is your willingness to seek it out.
But isn't it, the person who started charging first has priority, and as their charge winds down, the second plug ramps up?
[https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-pairing-at-supercharging-works.114709/](https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-pairing-at-supercharging-works.114709/)
So the guy was only inconveniencing himself.
This has changed since that post so that there is no more prioritization.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/supercharger-150kw-sharing-no-priority-on-arrival.209186/
If you read closely, you'll see that 36 kW increments are reported on the thread. Thus the max power levels would be 36/72/108/144 kW (plus whatever additional Tesla allows by running equipment above nameplate spec).
The end result is a second vehicle plugging into the shared stall might lead to up to a 36 kW power drop for the first vehicle, if there is less than 36 kW spare power on that stall pair, as the charger will allocate a minimum of 36 kW to each vehicle.
I don't think that lost 36 kW is enough to get angry about, especially at a busy Supercharger. The existing algorithm maximizes total energy delivered to all customers in the least amount of time.
Lol! In ALL my experiences, the charger immediately goes to 75 kW when the paired charger is plugged in. Maybe it only loses 36 kW if a legacy nerfed Model S is sharing it, but most of the time it's a modern 3 or Y.
Tesla could have different algorithms at different stations. Some using 36 kW steps, others using 50/50, if a second car is present. Tesla could also have changed algorithms since the post.
I know that I've seen over 120 kW at an 'urban' style Supercharger (nominally 72 kW max) when I wasn't sharing a stall.
The only real difference I know of between urban and V2 Superchargers is the pedestal design. The rest of the hardware, externally, physically, looks identical. I believe the main difference is the power allocation algorithm.
Yeah that post is 5 years old, just giving my experience that splitting a charger almost always sucks! Now I'm curious about those urban chargers, I generally avoid them because of the 75 kW limitation, or so I thought...
And here I am snickering when people use the "every other stall" technique on V3 chargers.
(If you told that guy nicely, it's his fault for being an ass about it. I would have happily received the information, just like the many people I've told before.)
As parking lots are filled people tend to keep spaces between each other to avoid dinging events. Those who snuggle too close and/or too soon when parking or charging, may be unaware of the etiquette involved…aside the splitting possibilities.
Hi guys I recently just bought a model 3.
Could yall explain what everyone means by splitting the charge a/b or how I would know.
I think I know what it means but want to make sure so I don’t make an ass of myself
Each charger has a number and a letter identifying it. If you are at a V2 (150kW) charger labeled 1a and someone else plugs into 1b you are not getting full power from the charger. The flow of electricity is going to be split between your car and the other one.
My 1st reaction(before reading the rest of your post) was to say a lotta people don't even know the 101 of supercharging &I think Tesla themselves should mention this to new buyers when they are in the process of getting the car. Now after reading the rest of your post, I am in complete disbelief at this neanderthal's reaction! WTF .really glad he didn't pull out a weapon or something!
It should pop up like it does when you “don’t navigate to the supercharger”. I’m sure it can detect a split scenario and it knows there are open stalls…
On the screen, it could say something like "Preferred charger 4B" based on available unused chargers and how much the "pared" charger is drawing, meaning, almost done charging.
I wonder what is going in his life that he would react in that way. Mental health issues, stressors, a Tesla loan payment coming due, sick child, abusive boss…. Who knows. Sorry for your experience from a fellow Tesla enthusiast.
This year in Wisconsin I have had to pour hot water into my charge port 6 different times. It is an inconvenience, of course: no one would want to scramble for hot water at the hotel or grocery store where the superchargers are located on my routes. But it borders on dangerous if it does not work or if places are closed and hot water is not available. This is a design flaw that needs a fix, and soon. Should be this voice command as we near the Supercharger: “heat butthole.”
I am more curious why someone would have 7 choices and they pick the one next to you. Even if it charged faster by being closer, I would still park farther away
And then when you go to use the urinal, there he is, next to you again. It’s only going to get worse with other non Tesla users unfortunately. I’m not looking forward to it.
>He goes ballistic swearing his head off calling me all sorts of ugly names, flinging his arms up in the air and aggressively unplugs and move his car one over.
This has to be the most exaggerated paragraph I've ever read on this sub.
How many times have you “softened” your side of a story to make yourself look better. I’m not saying in couldn’t have happened exactly like it’s posted, but MOST people wouldn’t just fly off the handle because you got out and unplugged your car, you know, like you were leaving or something. This feels like we’re missing something here like exactly what you said and how you said it and your body language. I’m calling it everyones the asshole here. If someone started bitching at me out of no where because of which stall I used I’d tell them to fuck off too. Not everyone knows,or cares, about these unposted “rules”.
Stupidcharger 🤣 Tesla should make a notification pop up on their screen that says “Welcome Supercharging newbie.. you may not know this but plugging into d when someone is already plugged into a is bad form if there are plenty of unoccupied superchargers!
He's like the guy that walks into the men's bathroom, 20 urinals all empty but the one you're using at the end...and he walks up next to you and uses the one next to you.
Ever since Tesla nerfed my older S I don't bother trying to do the math on SC splitting. My car generally pulls in the 40-70kw range so splitting doesn't affect me at all and it's rare that it affects the other car either.
I was at a Chargepoint charger on my kids' college campus, and someone parked their tesla in the spot next to mine. Then they had the nerve to unplug my tesla from the charger so they could get the full charge. Unfortunately, my tesla did not sentry mode record the person unplugging my tesla. I was so angry I had to walk all the way back to my car to plug in again to get the tiny trickle charge. I can't believe someone had the nerve to do this, but I'm a relatively new tesla owner. Maybe it's common, but I thought it was so rude. I was only there for 2 hours before being unplugged. Unbelievable!!!!!
Honestly, Tesla should do a better job of communicating this. Signage at Super Chargers would be great. You shouldn't need to be a Tesla nerd to know proper charging etiquette.
Just imagine what’s going to happen now when the SC’s are open to non-Tesla vehicles. Oh, the humanity! 
V3’s already don’t have the A/B splitting issue, and I’d imagine the CCS-compatible ones will be new and similarly without that issue.
Even places that were supposedly V3s seem to have aggregate limits across the rack of chargers if they are busy or else it was just unusually cold when I went (around 0F)
That doesn’t seem like something where a simple parking-pattern rule would help.
V3s don’t necessarily split power like the V2s do but if you are at a very busy charger and lots of people JUST got there and are trying to charge at 250kw, you may not be able to get to peak speed because the “bay” of 4ish chargers do have a max output that varies from location to location. The entire supercharger location has a max output too so even though each charger is theoretically capable of 250kw individually, a 10 station charger doesn’t necessarily support charging at 2,500kw. Idk if I explained that properly but that may have been what you experienced.
No that makes absolute sense i assumed this was the case when ive went to some v3s tht seemingly had people just pull up and i was not getting 250 and was getting 180-210 on a Normal 240-250 charging range for my car. But not even a 5 mins later it ramped up more but not to 250 maybe around 240 though at most but that has to do with the 250 peaks not being a large portion of the percentage range of your battery when charging. But im not complaining if a bunch of people are all running near the peak charging portion of their battery and im still getting 200? Fuck yeah bc a v2 you'd be lucky to be getting 70 honestly
V3 is limited to 350kw ac input per bank of 4 chargers. It can also accept a DC line with other sets of 4 chargers or batteries though, so the potential power output of a bank of 4 chargers grows as the overall station grows.
Most places are not v3’s though; and they won’t be a good portion of the next few years. 😂
Well those are also not going to be CCS-compatible, so no worries about non-Teslas being ignorant of the A/B rule.
They will actually. V3s can be retrofitted.
Should be easy enough to notify the user via the app.
There are plenty of V3s. They probably outnumber V2s at this point. My last trip, out of 11 SCs, all but two were V3.
That’s nice for you…. Here in the east coast, 150kW is most likely what you’ll encounter.
lol I'm *on* the east coast, and that trip I spoke of was along the east coast (up and down 95 in fact).
Apparently you haven’t taken the trip down the shore then… most of the ones on the NJ Parkway are 150kW cape May, AC (EHT), Barnegat, Toms River, Asbury Park, half of the Woodbridge ones. That’s all of them below 195. Kearny, Edison, Robbinsville (95), Marlton, the new ones at Deptford, Paulsboro (95), Clayton DE (95), and if you’re in Old City in Philly, you’re lucky to get V1s at 72kW. So, maybe in if you’re in NNJ you get some V3s. But who needs that when you can just charge at home. When you need them is when you are traveling to beach house in Cape May. No? Also look at the lack of superchargers past Barnegat. There’s literally 2 from AC all the way to Cape May. - nice that the trip you took had the V3s I travel on a weekly basis up and down the shore from the city and down to Philly 3 times a month. The reality is that V2s are still here and prominent. There adding new ones but opting for V2s vs V3s in some instances. Come down the shore and let me know about those V3s.
New SCs are always V3 so now I know you don't know what you're talking about if you're saying new ones are V2 lol. Peace out. ✌️
Great reminder..ways forget that lil anecdote
I could see Elon configuring the software for the super chargers to prioritize the Tesla in this case /s I kid, but it would be funny.
I haven’t seen any info, but I imagine the CCS chargers will be new. There’s no way for the person to pay with a card at the current chargers, as the Tesla just manages it automatically. I’m assuming they’ll add new separate chargers as opposed to retrofitting all the old ones. Have you heard anything about how that will work?
I don’t know anything about the way it will work but I imagine Tesla will force CCS users to use the app instead of trying to deal with credit card readers which is just another point of failure.
In terms of credit card, Tesla’s just going to handle it through their app. The person will have to set up a Tesla account with CC registered, then when they want to charge they do something special in the app to activate the particular charging stall. So that may not need new hardware at the stall. But I don’t know if non-Tesla-owners will be carrying around huge adapters in large numbers, so they should be dependent on the stalls having CCS plugs, so *that* would probably require new stalls to be built.
Tesla has created the "Magic Dock" which releases the correct connector and can be retrofit to existing stalls: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/11a6tg4/magic\_dock\_installed\_on\_v3/
Oh I didn’t know about the retrofitting part. Thanks!
In the app you can set up a non- Tesla to charge.
I didn’t realize that. I guess I never had to know that, but that’s interesting to find out! Thanks!
My area just lost power due to an ice storm. I just pulled up to a supercharger and there was one spot left so I’m all set. In the last 4 years I’ve never had to wait for a supercharger. I can’t imagine having to wait 20 minutes or longer just to start charging, I’m not looking forward to that.
I have had to wait a few times, but never long - a minute or two normally. Typical charge times are around 15 minutes and typically there are a dozen stalls so someone usually finishes a minute or two after you arrive, and every minute or two after that.
Oooh boyyyyyy better have your blood pressure meds ready!!
Honestly the pain is real in the UK when you see a bunch of non Tesla owners faffing back and forth trying to work out where the charge port is Vs cable length and then mess with the app and their car to get some charge all right next to you 
It literally says it when you look at the charging tips on your screen. 🤦🏻♂️
Yup
In car prompt would work well. They already do to avoid people complaining about charge speed when they didn’t precondition…
Agreed and some superchargers already have Tesla signage indicating this. I’ll have to find a photo but I’ve seen “1a 1b paired” or something to that effect
Signage would be good, but some type of indicator system to highlight the ideal charger would be even better. Maybe a green/yellow/red light on each charger indicating full speed, shared, or OoO.
Or just be a normal freaking person. Op didn't even ask him to move, op was going to move himself. The guy went nuts for that?
Maybe the guy finds himself being criticized for thoughtless things *a lot* and has developed a hair-trigger.
Just pop up a message in the car explaining it to the person who came second.
And Tesla knows exactly who is plugged and where, so they should display a message on the screen when you arrive, like, “Go to the charger 3B for better performances”
Yes!
https://i.redd.it/84bnmw2en0281.jpg
They could put messages on the screen like they do when they want you to leave soon because of congestion.
10000%!!!!
They do communicate this via email and video. But i guess most people just buy the car out of snap decision
You are implying that you can fix stupid.
Just use Urinal Etiquette - https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/mm2rzm/oc_urinal_etiquette/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Seems like the most user-friendly option would be to have the car pop up a message and say, “hey, we notice you can charge twice as fast one stall over” But it would really need to tell you which stall because I’ve always found the A/B thing confusing and I think they are not always adjacent
I mean it pops up on your screen the first time you go. What more do you want? People are just stupid.
It's in the manual in the car. Maybe it's just me, but i still read manuals.
There’s an alert on the Tesla screen that tells you this
There is a full 15" touchscreen in the car, just put a very visible note on the UI... Or just make a queueing system which tells you when and where to plug. So we can finally avoid talking with these morons
Tesla tells us… people just don’t read, never pay attention.
Everyone should know that the urinal rules apply here as well.
Problem is not every SC is the same. In fact the only thing consistent about them seems to be inconsistency. There are a number of them I've seen where it's a a a a b b b b and if spot 2 3 and 4 are full squeezing into spot 1 right next to one car or the other is the right move. It's a matter of reading and knowledge. There are a lot of new owners and there are a LOT of v3. (As a person who has been making cross country trips since 2018 man is it wild how fast those made \*almost\* all v2s irrelevant.) We only use them on those annual trips. You could own a Tesla a loooooooong time these days and have never visited a v2. This always has been, and remains, an area where Tesla NEEDS to step in. Even if you have perfect knowledge of how to v2 properly, you don't know the situation. Tesla could easily have the car pop something up for that person and say "For an optimal charge experience use 1A 2A 3A 1B 2B or 3B." At v3s (without a busted stall) it could say "Any stall will provide an optimal experience." It could help us Tesla vets because in the event all As are full it knows their current state of charge and the current charge limits, maybe even the destination the person has in mind. In other words it knows the person in 1A just got here and probably has 25 minutes to go. It knows the person in 2a got here 20 minutes ago, is at 75%, only needs 77% to continue. (Most importantly is already pulling a much smaller load than the other stalls.) So your car should tell you "For an optimal experience, use stall 2b". It's just one of the many things where you shouldn't need a degree in Teslaology to drive one. They have the technology, and they should use it. About the ONLY thing you could argue is a vague privacy concern since in a round about way it's telling someone when you're probably about to return to your car, but that's something that a) could be guessed with a tiny bit of surveillance b) will happen shortly eventually. Anyone looking to murder you at a supercharger knows it's not going to be 3 hours until you're back.
For v2 superchargers they are always in a/b adjacent pairs. For v3 cars next to each other don’t share chargers so there is no reason for them to avoid side-by-side charging - the location as a whole has a capacity but it doesn’t matter which position you plug in. Though it never hurts to avoid side by side charging.
By the sounds of how this individual reacted, he might not have a penis to understand such
I don’t have a penis and I don’t act like that.
But you do have two pairs of pants.
Assume the average Tesla owner knows 25% of what people on a Tesla subreddit do. I was talking to a buddy who is in Tech, who didn't know anything about Sentry Mode or Dashcam recording on his 2020 Model Y. I was like, dude, get a USB stick NOW.
I’ve been on here a while and I wasn’t aware of the splitting until somebody politely let me know at a supercharger either. Somebody mentioned above they should put a notice at the super chargers or maybe in the car itself.
There is a notice in the car…
Where is it at? I haven’t seen it. The only notifications I get when I’m supercharging is it will pop to watch something in the theater or play a game when I start it then when I have enough charge to continue my trip. Or is it only if you’re splitting with somebody else?
I'm not at my car, so I can't say exactly, but when charging, there is a button for "Supercharger tips", which lists this.
Ah gotcha. I’ll have to check it out, thanks!
Its not real obvious though
Indeed, there is always someone who knows more. For example, USB sticks are not the way to go. SSDs are far more reliable. :)
Wait… I can’t just keep whatever usb is in the car for sentry? I should buy another one?
Yea you can. Long term SSDs are better but the one the car came with is fine
You can, but USB sticks are generally lower capacity and less reliable than SSDs. I had trouble with multiple sticks back in 2019 and then got the fastest SSD I could find and it works great. I got a 240 GB model back then and see plenty of low cost high speed models out now at 1TB or more.
Thanks! Sounds good, I will go and grab one .
When I got mine, common advice was a high capacity/high write count/ surveillance style sd card with a usb/sd dongle. SSD seems easier/cheaper at this point and does the same thing. The SD card may arguably be smaller, but space inside the console hasn't really been my limiting factor. Tesla also used to provide a "USB too slow" error when really it meant that the USB stick had been overwritten too many times and wasn't writable anymore. That may have also lead to the high longevity SD card recommendations.
I'm a software engineer, and I can tell you that developers don't share the same level of tech savviness, as well as tech passion.
I can't imagine owning a tech-forward car like this and not reading the manual and the release notes. Tesla added some onscreen guides to features to highlight them, but I'm not sure how well that works.
> I can't imagine owning a tech-forward car like this and not reading the manual and the release notes. I bet most Tesla owners don’t read the manual and definitely not the release notes. Tesla is more akin to a smartphone. What percent of smartphone owners have read the manual or release notes?
>What percent of smartphone owners have read the manual or release notes? Tech-savvy people don't always realize how non-tech-savvy the average person is.
Amazing. If they're not on here or Twitter, and they don't read release notes, they miss out on countless features. That's awful.
>I can't imagine owning a tech-forward car like this and not reading the manual and the release notes. A lot of people here share this sentiment. And this is EXACTLY what I mean when I say that Reddit is NOT representative of the majority of people out in the wild. Reddit cares A LOT about things like privacy and consumer protections, and Tesla Reddit cares A LOT about Tesla's decisions in removing the USS and radar and how they only provided a yoke and didn't listen to their customers about phantom braking. Average people just don't care. They're too busy with their life or job or kids or whatever to be worried about the convenience features their car has. It's a hard pill to swallow, but once you see it your perspective completely changes.
>that Reddit is NOT representative of the majority of people out in the wild. Thank God. The amount of emotion on this site, regardless of which side of an issue, would make life unbearable in person. >Average people just don't care. I'm not sure what an "average" person is. Seems like a massive generalization.
I mean, I'd call it statistics instead of a generalization. I'm saying if you take 100k random Tesla owners (without choosing them from Reddit), there will be a significant chunk (like in a normal distribution) that simply never read the manual or update notes. Generalizing would be me saying "those who don't update are idiots". I don't believe that at all. I think they have their reasons, but the point is, the group exists and there's A LOT of them. This is typical among \*any\* technology user base. It's not unique to Tesla and it's not like it's a new phenomenon. Power users think everyone else is also a power user, and in reality they're like \~1% of the entire user base.
I'm in tech so I fully understand adoption curves. Where I disagree is that we're not anywhere close to a normal distribution yet. If you agree with [this adoption curve](https://i0.wp.com/www.business-to-you.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technology-Adoption-Life-Cycle-Crossing-the-Chasm.png?ssl=1) (fairly typical one), and you look at Q4 2022 US Luxury market, Tesla sold roughly 25% of all luxury cars in America. That puts you across the chasm and into Early Majority. To your point, EM is where there are people who are less likely to care about the tech. They also are less tolerant of "beta" software, which is evident if you surf through the Facebook Tesla groups. So many more people have beta access than are accustomed to being actual beta testers. But we're not at a normal adoption curve yet. It feels like we're still in the middle of the (equivalent) iPhone / Android vs. BlackBerry curve.
I'm not really even talking about adoption curves. Even after iPhone adoption leveled out, there are still huge swaths of iPhone owners that just let updates install automatically without reading the release notes. It's more about the % of people willing to look into more detail about the software vs. the % of people who just expect it to work 24/7 without ever thinking about it.
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I totally disagree. Who is “majority of people” specifically in your mind? Tesla had 1/4 of the luxury market sales in Q4 so you’re just barely past early adopters on a typical tech adoption scale. Those are the type of people in the 2M plus main Tesla subreddit or on Twitter. Of course there are some people like you describe (they’re in the Facebook groups) but they are the minority.
You can be parked next to a volcano in an empty parking lot of a grocery store and someone will come park next to you for some reason. It's the stupidest logic in the world.
at an angle too, inches from your door.
There’s no excuse for his behavior but he might not even be the owner of the car. While many of us enjoy the tech of these cars, those that are less comfortable with tech find the cars to be annoying/intimidating. He was already agitated about *something* before you said anything. Hopefully you both can enjoy the remainder of your day. :-)
>He was already agitated about *something* before you said anything This has to be the reason. That seems overly aggressive otherwise.
Maybe he was on the call with an automated phone tree system and just trying to talk to the gotdang store but the AI doesn't understand that so it's the third time you're calling the dumb tree just trying to talk to any agent and you're super annoyed. Maybe that's how his morning went and he's still ticked off about it. Grrrr
If Tesla would implement a queueing system or RECOMMEND a stall, this could potentially avoid situations like this. "We see you are nearing your destination. For the fastest charging, we recommend charger 3A, 5B, or 6A."
So you should have unplugged again and moved again. Personally I expect the same reaction you experienced so I say nothing.
I think OP told his story in a confusing way - i think OP got out of car and told the person before moving their own car. I don't think the other person moved to again be splitting.
Yes that’s right. Before I could even get back in my car to move it, he freaked out and moved his car to another circuit, even though I told him I was moving my car. So I just stayed where I was, finished charging and got the hell out of Dodge.
Thanks. Rereading I see that your interpretation is viable
A lot of the newer ones are a-d, not a-b. It’s much, much harder to split circuits nowadays.
Those are v3 chargers that do not have this kind of circuit splitting.
TIL
> Those are v3 chargers that do not have this kind of circuit splitting. No, they have a fancier circuit splitting, starting with much bigger power pool. Not just 150 kW across 2 stalls.
is there a good indicator of which SC's have which?
When you pull up they have 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D and so on. That’s it. There’s no other way I’ve seen to tell.
I’m guessing you weren’t at a v3 Supercharger location? I’m still awaiting my first Tesla, so forgive the newbie assumption - but there isn’t a stall/power sharing concern with v3/250kW locations, correct? Basing it on what I’m reading [here](https://www.tesla.com/blog/introducing-v3-supercharging). Also, sorry this happened to you - I guess it’s a good reminder that asshats exist, no matter the car.
Correct, doesn't apply to V3.
What about the 72kw urban chargers? Do they share?
No.
No. Use these as my regular charger
I started using the 72kw as my regular as well. I'm curious if you've seen much degradation.
Car shows 267 or 269 miles randomly when full. Never fully consistent. 22 RWD. Since it’s cold right now, I don’t have realistic range. I just know I can go a week on warm weather sometimes more without charging. I charge with 20% or lower since It’s public charging and charge to 100%
Not entirely true...v3 can still suffer from load sharing/not getting full 250kW. Tesla has been known to open v3 superchargers where the transformer(s) is undersized and can't supply 250kW to all cars. A local 12 stall SC is affected by this with anything over 2 cars or 3 cars (depending on which stall they use)
Yes, they might have to balance the power across the whole site, but that’s not really a concern for anyone plugging in to worry about.
How do you figure? OPs topic was about his charge rate slowing down due to someone charging beside him. Some v3 sites can have that happen, even if mostly empty and if someone isn't charging in the neighboring stall...
V3 has 4 plugs to a cabinet, but also the cabinets are connected by a DC bus.
Your last line is the point. It doesn’t matter where they plug in so it’s not really relevant.
Your purgative of course. The comment I originally replied to stated there was no power sharing at v3 chargers. Again, that isn't always the case.
And the original OP was talking about sharing on 2 neighboring stalls effectively cutting your speed in half.
Some people (obviously not you) may like to know that their charge speed could also be impacted by someone plugging in, not even next to them, at a v3 charger (which isn't well known, as Tesla had claimed this would not happen at v3 SCs, yet it might).
Ofc. Imagine how much power they would need to give 12 stalls 250KW each when everyone is plugged in
The V3 Superchargers are still limited by the input power. A 4 station V3 charger must share 350kw across the 4 stalls - you cannot pull 250kw simultaneously from all 4 stalls. Each 4 stall segment of a 250kw installation can share with another 4 stall installation so the more V3 stalls a station gets, the likelihood of getting a full 250kw goes up. Or if there is a battery on location. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/pictures-of-v3-supercharger-cabinets.158697/page-2#post-5508897
Not a 250kW SC. I’ve seen my charge rate plummet in the past when another driver gloms on to the same circuit at this SC. If it’s crowded that’s one thing, but when I’m the only car charging it’s annoying. Also I’ve noticed that the drain is even more noticeable if the other car is a late model M3/Y. The flow seems disproportionately metered out to the newer CCS-compatible cars, even though we’re both using the same Tesla connector.
This suggestion actually shows up in the Supercharging Tips screen. You can pull it up by going to the charging screen and tapping the link. It also appears when you supercharge for the first time I believe. They added this last year but I'm sure it gets buried and ignored.
Important that state that this only happens at older 150Kw stations. These stations are far less common that 250Kw stations currently being deployed. Given that people freak out over this even at the 250Kw stations, I hope you're not making this same mistake.
Some tesla owners are just better-paid morons. Not all of them do any research. Most probably don’t.
Why should someone have to do any more research beyond what is communicated to them from Tesla? Tesla tells you to pull up and plug in. They don't specify anywhere in the process clearly to avoid specific stalls. So many people in this sub are such dorks.
You shouldn’t have to research charging. It is absurd to think people care about this stuff besides Tesla nerds.
And people shouldn’t lose their shit when you try to educate them ( although who knows how OP “educated” that person).
I don’t usually say anything. I only use Superchargers on longer road trips anyway.
I never used to have to use a SC either. After we moved, we’re in an apartment and although we’re lucky enough to have a garage with a 120v 12A outlet, I can’t replace the commuting mileage during the week on that trickle charge alone.
Understandable. L1 is definitely not ideal.
I’m managing a project to install L2 EVSEs at my workplace, taking advantage of a utility-paid pilot program. It can’t happen soon enough for me. A quick once a week charge at work and I’ll rarely need to go to that SC again.
Going from L1 to L2 is definitely a game-changer in the EV ownership experience and satisfaction level. 👍🏼
I told one guy, he listened, said “Interesting”. Then walked away 
Tesla should send out like monthly or quarterly newsletters to all its customers explaining things like this. Benefits of circuit splitting when available. Differences between SC levels which is obvious but a lot of people don't understand why it takes longer to charge on 150kw etc. Importance and benefits of preconditioning battery before using a SC. How to read the stats. And another more. Al Tesla owners have emails so in my opinion a newsletter would be great. Oh and when a newsletter comes out Tesla can push a notification via app or even ar display. Not everybody goes view Tesla fan sites.
I’m just going to throw this low tech proposal out there. A 3-color LED on top of the charger. Green = Open - full power available; Yellow = Circuit In Use - reduced power; Red= Out of Service.
Or just update to V3 superchargers everywhere and don't do circuit splitting anymore.
OK then Green= Operational; Red = Out of Service. We encountered several OOS chargers on our Holiday road trip when traffic at the SC was very heavy.
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[“Crossing the chasm”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm)
He had an emotional reaction to a mistake because he's afraid of them. He experienced embarrassment and did not know how to handle it. In my opinion this is largely due to the way we do our public schooling, teaching people that mistakes are bad things to make.
You definitely should say something, he needs to learn even if its the hard way. You took one for the team.
Forget supercharging and split current and everything else... Why would you park directly next to someone in an empty lot?? It's like the urinals in the men's room. Same energy.
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Tip for anyone reading this. If you ever see an open nose in station PLEASE leave it open unless it's like 12am. Us people who are towing things or have bikes on the trailer hitch have a WAY harder time backing in to a charger than you do and those chargers make it so we don't have to spend 10 mins backing into one of the chargers and possibly damaging your car
Look, this is your fault for living in the United States. If you lived up here in Canada, odds are the reaction you would have gotten would have been... "Seriously? Oh man, I didn't know. I'm sorry about that. Give me a second and I'll just move over a few spots. Again, sorry about that and thanks for letting me know about this."
Yeah, but then I’d never get to see my hockey team hoist the Stanley Cup in my lifetime…
Burn
I always point it out. I had a Karen flip out at me a few weeks ago for doing so. I don’t care, they learn and from then on hopefully don’t do it. Keep pointing it out. The more normal people buying Teslas means the average owner IQ goes down. We’ve all seen it, especially those of us who’ve been around since the early days. If it helps and you’re a meek person, just remember they’re usually passing through and you’ll never see them again anyway.
Hah! I’ll have to share the “meek person” comment with my wife. I usually mind my own business around here because ppl are packing heat and there’s an abundance of the hotheaded “Florida Man” to go around. I’m an early adopter too and a bit analytical about almost everything. I noticed the dip in charge rate effect the first time it happened. A Tesla tech happened to be servicing the SC one day and he confirmed my observation about the a/b power distribution at my local SC. YMMV.
calm down there's always a newbie or impatient person out there-don't let it spill over.
If you were there first, then he will only get the power that your car isn't able to take. In other words, it should only be slower for the last person to connect. At least that's how it's worked on the a-b stations I've been to.
That used to be how it works, but is no longer the case. V2 SuCs will now just split available power regardless of who plugged in first.
Almost as bad is when there’s several empty spaces in a row and someone leaves 2 spaces between you and them. Inevitably, someone is now going to have to park next to one of us.
Tesla owners are just batty. Makes me not want to get a Tesla. Sorry y’all
Correction, PEOPLE are just batty. Avoiding a specific brand of car will not insulate you from the nuts.
Were you born knowing this information? I don’t think so.
Tesla provides the information in the charging menu, under “supercharging tips.” So you aren’t born with any information. The difference is your willingness to seek it out.
you can’t expect people to be considerate or courteous! cause every time you do they’ll disappoint you
But isn't it, the person who started charging first has priority, and as their charge winds down, the second plug ramps up? [https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-pairing-at-supercharging-works.114709/](https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-pairing-at-supercharging-works.114709/) So the guy was only inconveniencing himself.
This has changed since that post so that there is no more prioritization. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/supercharger-150kw-sharing-no-priority-on-arrival.209186/
If you read closely, you'll see that 36 kW increments are reported on the thread. Thus the max power levels would be 36/72/108/144 kW (plus whatever additional Tesla allows by running equipment above nameplate spec). The end result is a second vehicle plugging into the shared stall might lead to up to a 36 kW power drop for the first vehicle, if there is less than 36 kW spare power on that stall pair, as the charger will allocate a minimum of 36 kW to each vehicle. I don't think that lost 36 kW is enough to get angry about, especially at a busy Supercharger. The existing algorithm maximizes total energy delivered to all customers in the least amount of time.
Lol! In ALL my experiences, the charger immediately goes to 75 kW when the paired charger is plugged in. Maybe it only loses 36 kW if a legacy nerfed Model S is sharing it, but most of the time it's a modern 3 or Y.
Tesla could have different algorithms at different stations. Some using 36 kW steps, others using 50/50, if a second car is present. Tesla could also have changed algorithms since the post. I know that I've seen over 120 kW at an 'urban' style Supercharger (nominally 72 kW max) when I wasn't sharing a stall. The only real difference I know of between urban and V2 Superchargers is the pedestal design. The rest of the hardware, externally, physically, looks identical. I believe the main difference is the power allocation algorithm.
Yeah that post is 5 years old, just giving my experience that splitting a charger almost always sucks! Now I'm curious about those urban chargers, I generally avoid them because of the 75 kW limitation, or so I thought...
I just move and dont talk to people. much easier
And here I am snickering when people use the "every other stall" technique on V3 chargers. (If you told that guy nicely, it's his fault for being an ass about it. I would have happily received the information, just like the many people I've told before.)
I believe it says that in charging tips on your screen when you are charging as well
As parking lots are filled people tend to keep spaces between each other to avoid dinging events. Those who snuggle too close and/or too soon when parking or charging, may be unaware of the etiquette involved…aside the splitting possibilities.
It’s all good. He’s the kind of person where you tell him Good Morning and he’ll flip you off with a smile.
Hi guys I recently just bought a model 3. Could yall explain what everyone means by splitting the charge a/b or how I would know. I think I know what it means but want to make sure so I don’t make an ass of myself
Each charger has a number and a letter identifying it. If you are at a V2 (150kW) charger labeled 1a and someone else plugs into 1b you are not getting full power from the charger. The flow of electricity is going to be split between your car and the other one.
Is it labeled physically on the charger itself? Thank you for the explanation
Yes a sticker on the charger itself.
Thanks again!
As the masses adopt EV more, this will happen. Like how trash is being more accumulated.
This reminds me of a men’s bathroom and choosing the right urinal to use. Use to be a game in early 2000’s, flash game where you pick the right one.
My 1st reaction(before reading the rest of your post) was to say a lotta people don't even know the 101 of supercharging &I think Tesla themselves should mention this to new buyers when they are in the process of getting the car. Now after reading the rest of your post, I am in complete disbelief at this neanderthal's reaction! WTF .really glad he didn't pull out a weapon or something!
It should pop up like it does when you “don’t navigate to the supercharger”. I’m sure it can detect a split scenario and it knows there are open stalls…
On the screen, it could say something like "Preferred charger 4B" based on available unused chargers and how much the "pared" charger is drawing, meaning, almost done charging.
He probably does this at urinals as well.
I wonder what is going in his life that he would react in that way. Mental health issues, stressors, a Tesla loan payment coming due, sick child, abusive boss…. Who knows. Sorry for your experience from a fellow Tesla enthusiast.
This year in Wisconsin I have had to pour hot water into my charge port 6 different times. It is an inconvenience, of course: no one would want to scramble for hot water at the hotel or grocery store where the superchargers are located on my routes. But it borders on dangerous if it does not work or if places are closed and hot water is not available. This is a design flaw that needs a fix, and soon. Should be this voice command as we near the Supercharger: “heat butthole.”
I am more curious why someone would have 7 choices and they pick the one next to you. Even if it charged faster by being closer, I would still park farther away
And then when you go to use the urinal, there he is, next to you again. It’s only going to get worse with other non Tesla users unfortunately. I’m not looking forward to it.
>He goes ballistic swearing his head off calling me all sorts of ugly names, flinging his arms up in the air and aggressively unplugs and move his car one over. This has to be the most exaggerated paragraph I've ever read on this sub.
How many times have you “softened” your side of a story to make yourself look better. I’m not saying in couldn’t have happened exactly like it’s posted, but MOST people wouldn’t just fly off the handle because you got out and unplugged your car, you know, like you were leaving or something. This feels like we’re missing something here like exactly what you said and how you said it and your body language. I’m calling it everyones the asshole here. If someone started bitching at me out of no where because of which stall I used I’d tell them to fuck off too. Not everyone knows,or cares, about these unposted “rules”.
How is any other reaction than “oh, I didn’t know that” available?
Stupidcharger 🤣 Tesla should make a notification pop up on their screen that says “Welcome Supercharging newbie.. you may not know this but plugging into d when someone is already plugged into a is bad form if there are plenty of unoccupied superchargers!
He's like the guy that walks into the men's bathroom, 20 urinals all empty but the one you're using at the end...and he walks up next to you and uses the one next to you.
That's when you ICE the parking spots and take up two so he couldn't slip in!
"A" to my "b", reminds me of this from Brooklyn 99. https://youtu.be/ppxNZX4MDd8
When you navigate to a super charger the car should tell you which stall to use
Ever since Tesla nerfed my older S I don't bother trying to do the math on SC splitting. My car generally pulls in the 40-70kw range so splitting doesn't affect me at all and it's rare that it affects the other car either.
I was at a Chargepoint charger on my kids' college campus, and someone parked their tesla in the spot next to mine. Then they had the nerve to unplug my tesla from the charger so they could get the full charge. Unfortunately, my tesla did not sentry mode record the person unplugging my tesla. I was so angry I had to walk all the way back to my car to plug in again to get the tiny trickle charge. I can't believe someone had the nerve to do this, but I'm a relatively new tesla owner. Maybe it's common, but I thought it was so rude. I was only there for 2 hours before being unplugged. Unbelievable!!!!!