I got home from being on The Trust and Harry had little baby Harrys with little white flowers popping up all over his arms! I was like "Harry, I told you before I left, no wild plant parties!" I could tell he got wild while I was out of town due to all of the offspring on him. Then I looked at Chris and said "How could you let this happen?" Chris just shrugged their ponytail palm and had no response. Geesh! Ya leave town to film one reality show and all plant hell breaks loose!
Yeah, it's the look and the suaveness. I also think he's hurting himself with this stripper bullshit because I think it does end up reading like he's keeping a secret so they're just going to continue to be suspicious of him.
Also unrelated it was pretty funny how nobody believed Bryce. Even during that quick conversation between him, the shallow brunette and the boring white dude, they were talking like it was a foregone conclusion that he was the millionaire, 'oh but the two of us didn't reveal any secrets, we'll have to talk later.' Not to mention, showing up on a competition reality show with super expensive clothing is just giving people a reason to think you shouldn't win.
>Bryce
I liked the reasonging behind stripper identity. It is great ice breaker but he needed to quickly move from that story. Even if he said "naa I am joking, I am not stripper. I do something far less interesting" without revealing he is a cop.
Bryce story doesn't add up, why is he on this show. If I saw a 22 year old in expensive clothes that i don't even recognize the brand. I would assume "rich parents who cut him off the will" or he is broke trying to look rich or its all fake
I think it's a good idea not to mention how many votes someone got, based off the premise of the show. If the number isn't revealed, the contestants can never really know how many snakes in the grass their are.
Was Julie the one that also implied having money makes you better than other people? Maybe she's not as bad as this first episode is making her come across but damn, everything she says I have almost the complete opposite feelings about.
Julie is honestly not "skinny". She's wearing unflattering clothes to show off her body & the tight clothes do nothing but highlight her fat.
As far as how she gets past the bar/club weigh in, unless they are measuring BMI, she can weigh in at maybe 130 and pass because of her height.
The girl has thick rolls of fat & big thighs, but she's obviously fooling people because she's one of the more likeable people IMHO.
I can't stand her, but Tolu has THE "skinny" (and toned) body. She's rocking it & she's absolutely stunning. The problem for her is that her insides don't match.
Edit: typo.
The projection in the women is just crazy to watch and without spoiling other episodes, Iāll just say it gets more obvious how much they project what theyāre and are about onto others. At this point the men are more genuine and non scheming. I feel embarrassed watching this as a woman as I see the fact in this statement unfold.
Itās the women who are judging, over reacting, overtly emotional, sitting in corners colluding, being two faced as their collusion even leads them to planning on who to take out whilst playing the lets all win game.
I wish I could say more but can see most ppl who read this page probably came for just episode 1. keep watching and Iāll see you in other posts.
Netflix has a bad habit of casting women, specifically WOC, who are like this (if youāve seen squid game the challenge, youāll know what I mean). They really gotta stop cause itās making us all look bad lol
They pissed me off so much voting him out. He was telling the truth about the order of the names ! Wtf. I know itās a reality show and ppl will put up a front but damn I dislike all of the girls who voted for juelz. Also, Tolu, girl, respectfully, as a fellow African girl, I doubt they blocked your vote because you are black. Juelz is also black.
Because they wanted Juelz out anyway. Asking Simone is risky because if she verifies he's not lying about it, they lose their ammunition. Really though, they were going to find *something* to accuse him of.
I think lying about his job was a huge mistake imo. I don't think people were suspicious of his occupation but I do think maybe they could read that he was lying about something.
Oh Im very aware lol. I feel like in this game I would try to go for a Survivor type strat of building an alliance and keeping my head down until the merge, I mean, twist (whatever that big moment may be)
I have an issue with a ton of things in this episode, but voting him out wasn't one of them. The women picked up on him lying... which he was. He was lying from the get-go.
I don't disagree that telling them he's a cop might have had a negative impact, but he was lying and that's what they voted him out for.
Why would anyone, who agreed with the group and said they were not voting anyone out, be upset they got their voting right taken away for one ceremony? You would only be mad if you were planning to name a name and betray the group! I'm surprised nobody called Tolu out on that.Ā
I honestly donāt think itās wrong to vote othersā out. I personally wouldnāt, but if I am in need of money, why not? I just hated the whole victim mentality and this whole āmy power was taken away from meā. They should have realised that it wasnāt power unless she planned to use itā¦ and if thatās the case, then obviously she was right to be blocked.
Iād have so much more respect for these people if they were just straight up like āyeah, I donāt like him so Iām gonna cut him out and get more moneyā
I guess she would just want all white males on earth suffer to "compensate" her for all her struggles in life. Or even better, it should be everyone but her. Any decision not favouring her she takes as an attack against her. I'm only 40mins into the show but I really really hope she goes home very soon with empty hand.
Exactly! Her saying people are putting on masks and she prefers people to be raw and honest? Cues to her sitting quietly when the realtor boy asked them to come clean.
What an insufferable person.
And did you see the fake shocked look on her face when they said someone was voted off and the trust had been broken. As if she had nothing to do with it.
I hate the way she uses her "black card"... It's kind of disgusting.
Edit: I think some people are misunderstanding my comment lol. I didn't mean there's something wrong with her background. I just meant I feel like she's using it as an excuse to be mean and manipulate others, painting herself as a victim.
She wears all these African cultural stuff with her and gets offended when someone compliments her for being an African because apparently sheās so much more than what she wears? These are the type of people who will get offended with lite anything.
She complains about being labeled as āthe African girlā as she does an interview with a prominent necklace of Africa around her neck š¤¦š¼āāļø
This right here!!! As a black woman I am embarrassed by her smh. Itās funny bcuz I could already tell the kind of person she was just within a few seconds and it truly disgusted me. Itās like come on! Itās like sheās the type to simply use her culture as a victim badge just to try and make others feel sorry for her. Like no one is taking your āpowerā away. Itās a friggin vote on a show for crying out loud. Ugh! She needs to go like now.
Definitely wanted to see if others find Tolu insufferable. Taking a truly random choice and turning it into some matyr story about her poor Nigerian parents and her power being taken away from her. Not that those aren't struggles that she's had to face and overcome, but in this case it was truly random. True victim mentality projected onto every situation.
And I was disappointed no one mentioned it isn't even power unless she was planning on voting someone out. Never expected it, but I feel bad Juelz was kicked out. Tolu says "the choice to take my power is calculated" - I wonder if she'd admit she was wrong after watching what really happened? I guess the show is making her a "main character" because of how ridiculous her whole thing is. Come in talking about "getting everything she can", then she complains about lack of fair play while leading a group to the first vote to eliminate Juelz. What a hypocrite.
Juelz shouldāve listened to Simone about not mentioning the block or picking people who definitely wouldnāt take it personally. Honesty isnāt always the best policy
These women are so disgusting. All talk about trust and family, and then projecting onto others their own greed and dishonesty. Hey, at least people who know them will see their true colours, hope they never let them forget.
Those of us who know Julie know that she has a history of manipulation and lying. Sheās unstable and needs help, but denies both.
Sheās doubling down now on TikTok trying to justify and is missing the mark.
Not exactly doing much for their own negative stereotypes. Itās insane how quick they ALL were to act that way by default. Really makes me question a lot of things we have been taught about historical power. It was always there, it was just done indirectly and with underhanded tactics. Which some historians and psychologists would suggest
Tolu is annoying af, wondered how long would it take her to jump on the race card. Hilarious how one who conspired and derails others the most is the one that bitches the most about fair play. Im guessing she wouldnt blink twice about taking money herself and cutting someone off but all hell breaks loose if she has to sit out one voting.
And those 3 girls at the end justifying their voting out is just so ridiculous. I guess we have found the Mean Girl Clique, who causes drama and trouble while proclaiming themselves to be the victim, purely defending themselves. Lol ok
She pretty much already played the race card when she somehow projected her family being immigrants into a game show as if she was actually having her suffrage torn from her as a citizen. Sheās sad, small and vile.
Made her entire identity and sense of self one thing from the get-go and then was utterly surprised Pickachu offended when others did too - itās laughable
I don't think it would have changed the outcome anyway - Tolu had her sights set on Juelz as being disingenuous from the moment she set eyes on him, even though it certainly looked like she was being friendly with him in the scenes I saw. Fake fake fake.
Right, she was being so friendly, then has the audacity to say oh I see people wearing masks, but you're the biggest mask wearer here. As a fellow African-immigrant living in the US, this is soo embarrassing.
Couldnāt they have just blocked their own votes? If they werenāt planning to vote out this woulda been the most selfless option that didnāt upset the group.
I love the older woman in this show (sorry still learning names), she's hilarious.
"I want to see some fucking whales!"
"I can get it in! Mine might be up near 150!"
"I rode a Harley, did the drugs and the partying."
I want this wonderful lady to tell me all the stories.
Did I miss smth or did they not reveal few secrets?
Group 1. Juelz lies about occupation, Julie goes to parties where they weigh in women, someone slept with 150 people - Simone, Gaspere, Winnie or Jake.. leaves 3 secrets not revealed?
Group 2. Lindsay cheated husband, Bryce millionaire, Brian believes money is poison, Tolu and Jay not revealed?
Did I miss 5 secrets?
And she talks like she has a "job" she doesn't want to share with anyone. When she said "I don't have a day job....wink wink" or when she said that she is unemployed but still raising 2 kids well. Idk, I'm not from the US but that doesn't seem like an easy thing to do anywhere in the world on child support and unemployment benefits...
Yeah the day job bit seemed like a bit of a š¤. It is much harder in the US than it is in many other countries to be a single mom unless you either get a ton of child support or have a rich supportive extended family. No universal healthcare, not much in the way of social security benefits.
yeah but I was thinking, I doubt a guy would consider that a secret. Like - my deepest secret is I got a lot of action. Maybe weight-in parties weren't Julies secret, she never actually confirmed it, they just edited so it seems that way.
Omg Tolu needs to take a chill pill. Instead on focusing on the fact she can't vote, why didn't she focus on the fact that 5k was added. That's more money. If she's money driven why isn't that not a positive in her books?? But noooooo she's too busy focused on being a victim of her own mind.
I feel bad for Juelz. Tolu had such a hard on for him and was determined to put him on the chopping block.
I don't like her. I respect her speaking about the struggles she's been through and I can't even begin to imagine how difficult and painful her experiences have been. I'm sure there's a great deal of deep seeded trauma.
That being said, the other person they took a vote from was a white male...it's not like they were intentionally targeting her or the women in general. She seems like a deeply mean and entitled person.
Honestly, I don't believe in her trauma and struggles for a moment. I think she's just trying to spin a narrative. TV always has to have people play certain archetypes. Most African immigrants in the U.S. are actually middle class and are able to move up the ladder pretty quickly. Nigerians are highly educated and very ambitious. Yes her parents must have struggled in the beginning rebuilding their lives in the U.S. and things may have been difficult for a moment, but I highly doubt things were "taken" away from her. Inspite of what people may say about race in America, it is very much the land of opportunity. There is racism everywhere, America is the only nation I've seen openly talking about it. She may have some very deep seated trust issues, or maybe untrustworthy herself. I believe that one sees the world the way they also think about other people's place in the world.
It's hilarious how the guys are the only non-shady ones in this show lmao Every single woman on this show is Shady AF Tolu is horrible. The host though!!! Umm "it depends on whether you believe it or not" that is shady, and deceitful wow.
If I was Juelz I would have said fuck all of you!! I was honest. Now you can stay here with them snakes !!
The faces of Tolu and everyone that voted Juelz out, looking all surprised !! What snakes !!! The shadyness of "shaking her head in disbelief"
Tolu, Winnie, Julie, and Lindsay all snakes. Simone, throwing Juelz under the bus snake.
After they made their decision in the vault, they told the whole house what the offers were, how they came to a decision, and what that decision was. He said we both agreed it would be fair to just use the list on the wall and pick the 1st two names. Tolu got offended, so Simone to gain favor throws Juelz under the bus by saying " I told him not to pick you, I know all the stuff that's been taken from you, I told him not to take this from you." Making it sound like it really wasn't a united decision, when he is saying it was a united decision.
I felt like Simone saw from the start that Tolu was a āmean girlā and knew not to get on her bad side - I think her response was out of fear. I found it laughable how oblivious the men were when it came to the 3 āhotā women immediately teaming up. Maybe it was editing, but as a life long ānon hot girlā it has often seemed that the āalphaā group are eventually waiting for a moment to cut each other down. There is no way, in the end, they wonāt turn on each other.
The women are all so shady, people keep talking about Tolu but I feel like Julie is the worst. She wants to lead Jake on, talking about full on manipulation. This show is making me reconsider my opinions on women tbh, or rather humans in general, didnāt think people were this messed up.
> Why do people think they deserve more than somebody else?
The whole part about "someone has a million dollars so they don't deserve it!!!!" annoyed me so much. At what point do you cut off who "deserves" it? And who gets to decide?
The women who voted are an embarrassment to themselves and - unfortunately - to their sex.
They are really *not* coming across well and Tolu in particular is reprehensible. Sheās well balanced in that she has a chip on both shoulders. I hate people like that.
The cowboy is very genuine, and the one they voted off was also very decent.
Came here to see if everyone else thought Tolu was absolutely insufferable too l o l im only on episode 2 and I cannot stand any of these women, Simone is alright but the rest are š¬š¬
Please tell me they vote Toul out sooner then later... complete victim mentality. Babe everything isn't as deep as you want to believe it is. If she does win some of that money I hope she invest in a therapist so she can get past her mommas generational trauma.
That lie was moreso just a strategy to avoid being targeted as his real job, police, is a contentious one in recent years. His only mistake was choosing a wacky/memorable job like a stripper as his fake job, he shouldāve picked a more regular/average job. Besides that, he was completely genuine in how he played the game, the actual important part.
Now people like Toluā¦ criticising others for seeming fake or two-faced, then immediately acting innocent and even shocked when it was announced Juelz was voted out, then ALSO staying quiet when Bryce asked who voted Juelz out despite chastising others for being dishonest, now **thatās** a REAL liar causing actual consequences for others.
I get where you're coming from, but you can't both lie *for any reason* and be "genuine", that's just a conflict of meaning. (As a side note, if he had just said fitness instructor instead of stripper/fitness instructor, he might have done better...)
I totally agree with you on Tolu and most of the rest of them though. Minor, unsurprising spoiler for the next two episodes: >!and they all just keep getting worse and worse...!<
After watching all the episodes out today, it's wild to see in this thread how hysterical people are being about Tolu who is like... not bad at all. I think she was just getting the edit treatment in episode 1. Trust, there are far more awful people in the cast.
When I saw this new show on Netflix, I thought it would be an interesting psychological reality show with some game theory aspects. Nope, it turned out to be just a horrible person playing the race card. It's frustrating to listen to her talk about taking away her power and creating a victim agenda around that. The rest of those women are not much better. I probably will not watch the rest of the show because it is so disgusting that it is not entertaining.
this forum is bizarre - some of the women followed their intuition and said they didnāt trust juelz and voted him out .. & they were right! he was lyyyyying
Well tolu was literally doing the thing she accused Jules of doing so itās the hypocrisy, like if you want to vote someone out for a bigger piece of the pie, thatās fine but to do it because you randomly feel they are untrustworthy without any evidence, thatās some fucking cop behavior
Yeah. I have a whole lot of issues with this episode, but voting him out for lying isn't one of them. He *was* lying from the moment he opened his mouth. And yet some people in comments call him "genuine"? So odd.
Did anyone notice how Juelz was sitting in that big leather interview chair at the end of the episode (56:53 is the time code)?
Between him and Izzy on āLove is Blindā, whatās with Netflix reality shows and big muscly dudes dangling their feet like children? Itās not a lot, but itās weird that it happened twice.
Not going to lie that african women enraged me so much she made her whole image this african women with struggles and she always has had it hard like she didn't target the black stripper dude like he is a black male who said he strips? To me that seems like he would've had troubles literally just started talking out of her butt constantly projecting and she single handley was the reason they voted him out because she gas lighted that whole group of females to believe he is this bad man that doesn't like her and targeted her because she can't vote LIKE BRYCE COULDNT VOTE EITHER made no sense if he wanted to take away her power i would've gone with that annoying skinny lady and that annoying african lady these two i felt like honestly were crappy humans like you go in a club that weighs people? and that's your big secret that's pathetic and says a lot about you as a person. That african lady omg she actually enraged me i never thought i would spend 50 minutes watching her project gaslight manipulate and when after they voted stripper dude out and the rich real estate dude was like who did it they looked down and cried LIKE WHY YALL CRYING YALL VOTED THE DUDE OUT FOR NO REASON and then they went to they room and act like a bunch of girl bosses who just saved the world from world war 3 no y'all ganged up on a man and manipulated 7 people that trusted y'all for like 3k cash honestly just bad people
For real! I kept yelling at the tv, you all need to get out of this show (besides Simone) and seek professional help for your deep rooted trauma. Like where the heck is Netflix finding these people? As a woman Iām so embarrassed by their behavior, the men are more genuine/honest.Ā
Because it's good TV (supposedly). Who knows, this might be totally inaccurate as to what happened in the house. Reality shows can edit things to make a situation look completely different than it really was.
Is it common to just have one button buttoned on a shirt. I've seen some leaving 2-3 buttons unbuttoned. But I've not seen a shirt with just one being buttoned.
Is no one gonna talk about how unhinged Lindsey is? She escalated to a tantrum with Jake for being placed last when sheās the least memorable, then sobbed about him knowing 1 story from her life. Like get over yourself. I can only imagine how her friendships are in real life. Iād sure as hell not feel comfortable voicing any concerns to her when she acts like a loon.Ā
I wish Juelz listened to Simone in the vault. Simone suggested we don't tell them their vote doesn't count. Because telling them that they voted for Brice and Tolu just caused unnecessary drama. Especially because Tolu seemed like she would obviously vote someone off. At no point did she seem like a team player lol. It was weird that she still got a vote. I wanted to really like her and the other girls, but I'm not a fan of the 3 girls that formed that alliance. They all seem unnecessary mistrustful of others and conniving/ manipulative.
What is wrong with womenā¦??
Itās like all of them apart from Simone is just insane. Gagging for validation, victim mentality, borderline psychotic (Lindsey)
Is this an accurate representation of what men have to deal with on a day to day basis because wow
Thank you for the "apart from (me)" comment! Funny that I'm the sane one... I thought that people would think I'm crazy because I admitted on TV that I name my anthropomorphic plants. I told you I've "met crazier than me"! š
This may not be the right forum for this but itās crazy that the black women targeted the only black male on the show. There was instant distrust instead of unity.
Kinda speaks to the constant in-fighting I see with us (black ppl) on Twitter.
Tolu is just mad bc guys that look like juelz (the millions of him she constantly sees in her city she said) have always rejected her all her life. thatās why she feels the need to ābe on offense instead of waiting to be shotā . Her whole reasoning in being mad at him for ātaking away her right to voteā like girl shutup youāre dragging the race shit . she was begging for any excuse to get rid of
him bc of her own insecurities. and Julie GOD SHE ANNOYS ME she just follows whatever Tolu and the other one do bc itās easier to join them than beat them . theyāre all insufferable really
I want an update on Simone's plants.
I got home from being on The Trust and Harry had little baby Harrys with little white flowers popping up all over his arms! I was like "Harry, I told you before I left, no wild plant parties!" I could tell he got wild while I was out of town due to all of the offspring on him. Then I looked at Chris and said "How could you let this happen?" Chris just shrugged their ponytail palm and had no response. Geesh! Ya leave town to film one reality show and all plant hell breaks loose!
The only thing I care about so far lmao.
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Right? They are so interesting.
They are, they really, really are
Julie, being skinny doesnāt make you a good person babe.
It was surprising how come Tolu didnāt notice that was her that said that.
She thought it had to be one of the guys, specifically she thought every terrible secret was Juelz. Idk what he did to offend her so much.
His look
Yeah, it's the look and the suaveness. I also think he's hurting himself with this stripper bullshit because I think it does end up reading like he's keeping a secret so they're just going to continue to be suspicious of him. Also unrelated it was pretty funny how nobody believed Bryce. Even during that quick conversation between him, the shallow brunette and the boring white dude, they were talking like it was a foregone conclusion that he was the millionaire, 'oh but the two of us didn't reveal any secrets, we'll have to talk later.' Not to mention, showing up on a competition reality show with super expensive clothing is just giving people a reason to think you shouldn't win.
>Bryce I liked the reasonging behind stripper identity. It is great ice breaker but he needed to quickly move from that story. Even if he said "naa I am joking, I am not stripper. I do something far less interesting" without revealing he is a cop. Bryce story doesn't add up, why is he on this show. If I saw a 22 year old in expensive clothes that i don't even recognize the brand. I would assume "rich parents who cut him off the will" or he is broke trying to look rich or its all fake
Yes, totally agree about the ice breaker and was like, 'oh that's kinda funny...oh he's just gonna roll with it. Interesting choice.'
He was breathing the same air as her. That's all. His mere existence offends her.
He seemed like an ok dude. Shame tbh. I wish Brooke would say how many votes someone got.
I think it's a good idea not to mention how many votes someone got, based off the premise of the show. If the number isn't revealed, the contestants can never really know how many snakes in the grass their are.
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She goes to a club that weighs women before entry, she certainly thinks of herself as skinny (and superior because of it).
Was Julie the one that also implied having money makes you better than other people? Maybe she's not as bad as this first episode is making her come across but damn, everything she says I have almost the complete opposite feelings about.
Julie is the tan one- I canāt remember what she said episode 1 other than the weight part because thereās just too much with her lol
Julie is honestly not "skinny". She's wearing unflattering clothes to show off her body & the tight clothes do nothing but highlight her fat. As far as how she gets past the bar/club weigh in, unless they are measuring BMI, she can weigh in at maybe 130 and pass because of her height. The girl has thick rolls of fat & big thighs, but she's obviously fooling people because she's one of the more likeable people IMHO. I can't stand her, but Tolu has THE "skinny" (and toned) body. She's rocking it & she's absolutely stunning. The problem for her is that her insides don't match. Edit: typo.
Mmh okay I thought she was being a B but man you Sally really fucking sucks
The projection in the women is just crazy to watch and without spoiling other episodes, Iāll just say it gets more obvious how much they project what theyāre and are about onto others. At this point the men are more genuine and non scheming. I feel embarrassed watching this as a woman as I see the fact in this statement unfold. Itās the women who are judging, over reacting, overtly emotional, sitting in corners colluding, being two faced as their collusion even leads them to planning on who to take out whilst playing the lets all win game. I wish I could say more but can see most ppl who read this page probably came for just episode 1. keep watching and Iāll see you in other posts.
I'm only on episode one, but the guys seem so genuine - I'm so surprised at how snakey the women are, straight out of the gate.
True and I always want to root for the women. They need not to stereotype so quickly.
Agree, except for Simone, there isnt a women in that group who is decent or genuine. As a woman, I am embarrassed.
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not as much as other women imo
Thank you for the exception!!! š
Tolu is everything she accused Jules of being
Netflix has a bad habit of casting women, specifically WOC, who are like this (if youāve seen squid game the challenge, youāll know what I mean). They really gotta stop cause itās making us all look bad lol
I'm excited to read your other thoughts. I can't stand the women. Trashy.
They pissed me off so much voting him out. He was telling the truth about the order of the names ! Wtf. I know itās a reality show and ppl will put up a front but damn I dislike all of the girls who voted for juelz. Also, Tolu, girl, respectfully, as a fellow African girl, I doubt they blocked your vote because you are black. Juelz is also black.
I don't understand why didn't they ask the lady who went to vault. Why not verify from her or go after her. How did she get pass and they go after him
Because they wanted Juelz out anyway. Asking Simone is risky because if she verifies he's not lying about it, they lose their ammunition. Really though, they were going to find *something* to accuse him of. I think lying about his job was a huge mistake imo. I don't think people were suspicious of his occupation but I do think maybe they could read that he was lying about something.
in reality shows, whoever takes a "leadership role" early on & establish themselves as strong candidate usually is target.
Oh Im very aware lol. I feel like in this game I would try to go for a Survivor type strat of building an alliance and keeping my head down until the merge, I mean, twist (whatever that big moment may be)
I have an issue with a ton of things in this episode, but voting him out wasn't one of them. The women picked up on him lying... which he was. He was lying from the get-go. I don't disagree that telling them he's a cop might have had a negative impact, but he was lying and that's what they voted him out for.
Why would anyone, who agreed with the group and said they were not voting anyone out, be upset they got their voting right taken away for one ceremony? You would only be mad if you were planning to name a name and betray the group! I'm surprised nobody called Tolu out on that.Ā
She is constantly bringing race into it and for what?? I cried when Juelz left. He really was a genuinely good person who wanted everyone to win.
I honestly donāt think itās wrong to vote othersā out. I personally wouldnāt, but if I am in need of money, why not? I just hated the whole victim mentality and this whole āmy power was taken away from meā. They should have realised that it wasnāt power unless she planned to use itā¦ and if thatās the case, then obviously she was right to be blocked.
agree. I wouldn't mind strategic person, but so far its all victimization and acting offended instead of just saying they are playing the game.
Iād have so much more respect for these people if they were just straight up like āyeah, I donāt like him so Iām gonna cut him out and get more moneyā
Right the moment she said that I would have been dialed in as someone at that table, likeā¦. You sound like you canāt be trusted.
tolu is so annoying
Agreed!! Would she have preferred them take money for themselves?
I guess she would just want all white males on earth suffer to "compensate" her for all her struggles in life. Or even better, it should be everyone but her. Any decision not favouring her she takes as an attack against her. I'm only 40mins into the show but I really really hope she goes home very soon with empty hand.
Pure victim mentality. Seeing things that arenāt there and then using it to justify nasty decisions
So insanely insecure she has to take it out on other people. Sheās disgusting.
I hope she gets voted out soon because she makes women look bad.
She is exactly what she accused the guy she voted for of being
Exactly! Her saying people are putting on masks and she prefers people to be raw and honest? Cues to her sitting quietly when the realtor boy asked them to come clean. What an insufferable person.
And did you see the fake shocked look on her face when they said someone was voted off and the trust had been broken. As if she had nothing to do with it.
I hate the way she uses her "black card"... It's kind of disgusting. Edit: I think some people are misunderstanding my comment lol. I didn't mean there's something wrong with her background. I just meant I feel like she's using it as an excuse to be mean and manipulate others, painting herself as a victim.
She wears all these African cultural stuff with her and gets offended when someone compliments her for being an African because apparently sheās so much more than what she wears? These are the type of people who will get offended with lite anything.
She complains about being labeled as āthe African girlā as she does an interview with a prominent necklace of Africa around her neck š¤¦š¼āāļø
This right here!!! As a black woman I am embarrassed by her smh. Itās funny bcuz I could already tell the kind of person she was just within a few seconds and it truly disgusted me. Itās like come on! Itās like sheās the type to simply use her culture as a victim badge just to try and make others feel sorry for her. Like no one is taking your āpowerā away. Itās a friggin vote on a show for crying out loud. Ugh! She needs to go like now.
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incredible projection from a small group here
Came here to see if everyone else was finding Tolu so insufferable. What a narcissist. Wouldn't trust her for a second.
It's not just her, most the women in this show are vile. Wouldn't go within 10 ft of them
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Y'all really need to find another word besides narcissist to latch onto.
Definitely wanted to see if others find Tolu insufferable. Taking a truly random choice and turning it into some matyr story about her poor Nigerian parents and her power being taken away from her. Not that those aren't struggles that she's had to face and overcome, but in this case it was truly random. True victim mentality projected onto every situation. And I was disappointed no one mentioned it isn't even power unless she was planning on voting someone out. Never expected it, but I feel bad Juelz was kicked out. Tolu says "the choice to take my power is calculated" - I wonder if she'd admit she was wrong after watching what really happened? I guess the show is making her a "main character" because of how ridiculous her whole thing is. Come in talking about "getting everything she can", then she complains about lack of fair play while leading a group to the first vote to eliminate Juelz. What a hypocrite.
She played the race card to victimize herself and then proceeded to plot to eliminate the only black man on the show. Sheās such a hypocrite.
Juelz shouldāve listened to Simone about not mentioning the block or picking people who definitely wouldnāt take it personally. Honesty isnāt always the best policy
Thank youš
Omg is this the actual Simone? If so, I just wanna say you were great on the show and you deserved better!
Thank you so much. The Trust really helped me understand my value/self worth. It was a great experience.
What are your honest thoughts on Tolu? Was she such a massive a-hole or was it just bad editing?
These women are so disgusting. All talk about trust and family, and then projecting onto others their own greed and dishonesty. Hey, at least people who know them will see their true colours, hope they never let them forget.
Those of us who know Julie know that she has a history of manipulation and lying. Sheās unstable and needs help, but denies both. Sheās doubling down now on TikTok trying to justify and is missing the mark.
Not exactly doing much for their own negative stereotypes. Itās insane how quick they ALL were to act that way by default. Really makes me question a lot of things we have been taught about historical power. It was always there, it was just done indirectly and with underhanded tactics. Which some historians and psychologists would suggest
Tolu is annoying af, wondered how long would it take her to jump on the race card. Hilarious how one who conspired and derails others the most is the one that bitches the most about fair play. Im guessing she wouldnt blink twice about taking money herself and cutting someone off but all hell breaks loose if she has to sit out one voting.
And those 3 girls at the end justifying their voting out is just so ridiculous. I guess we have found the Mean Girl Clique, who causes drama and trouble while proclaiming themselves to be the victim, purely defending themselves. Lol ok
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Yes to Julez, no less, but then she votes him out???
She pretty much already played the race card when she somehow projected her family being immigrants into a game show as if she was actually having her suffrage torn from her as a citizen. Sheās sad, small and vile.
Made her entire identity and sense of self one thing from the get-go and then was utterly surprised Pickachu offended when others did too - itās laughable
Youāll notice it always comes from the same group of people who keep playing this card.
āIt was the decision that we believed would have caused the least amount of turmoil.ā Yeah, mission failed lol
He should have listened to the single mom who didn't want to say who they blocked
I don't think it would have changed the outcome anyway - Tolu had her sights set on Juelz as being disingenuous from the moment she set eyes on him, even though it certainly looked like she was being friendly with him in the scenes I saw. Fake fake fake.
Right, she was being so friendly, then has the audacity to say oh I see people wearing masks, but you're the biggest mask wearer here. As a fellow African-immigrant living in the US, this is soo embarrassing.
Couldnāt they have just blocked their own votes? If they werenāt planning to vote out this woulda been the most selfless option that didnāt upset the group.
That's what I was hoping they would do. Would've been smart. I wish the show would've addressed if that was an option or not.
It wasnāt, they had a limited number of names to choose from
They had to choose from the list.
Age range of 22-70 - should be interesting
I love the older woman in this show (sorry still learning names), she's hilarious. "I want to see some fucking whales!" "I can get it in! Mine might be up near 150!" "I rode a Harley, did the drugs and the partying." I want this wonderful lady to tell me all the stories.
Did I miss smth or did they not reveal few secrets? Group 1. Juelz lies about occupation, Julie goes to parties where they weigh in women, someone slept with 150 people - Simone, Gaspere, Winnie or Jake.. leaves 3 secrets not revealed? Group 2. Lindsay cheated husband, Bryce millionaire, Brian believes money is poison, Tolu and Jay not revealed? Did I miss 5 secrets?
They must have not been very interesting. Boring doesnāt get played on these shows.
The 150 women is not Gas. I doubt he had a secret. Heās what reality TV would consider boring. I say that in a loving way. Heās an open book.
I was waiting for his secret to be about raising an alligator in his basement as a kid š
Yep! Or about his dadās snakes or the bullet holes in his basement. So many hilarious options.
The 150 people must have been a guy though - it's the kind of thing a guy would think was a flex.
I think 150 is Simone. She got cheated on and left pretty brutally
And she talks like she has a "job" she doesn't want to share with anyone. When she said "I don't have a day job....wink wink" or when she said that she is unemployed but still raising 2 kids well. Idk, I'm not from the US but that doesn't seem like an easy thing to do anywhere in the world on child support and unemployment benefits...
Yeah the day job bit seemed like a bit of a š¤. It is much harder in the US than it is in many other countries to be a single mom unless you either get a ton of child support or have a rich supportive extended family. No universal healthcare, not much in the way of social security benefits.
I assumed she had an only fanās channel or did some sort of independent ālonely housemomā sex work like that.
yeah but I was thinking, I doubt a guy would consider that a secret. Like - my deepest secret is I got a lot of action. Maybe weight-in parties weren't Julies secret, she never actually confirmed it, they just edited so it seems that way.
I can see it being jake and because itās him who said it the 150 being a HUGE exaggeration and a flex (not like Netflix is going to verify that)
Think itās 100% a female. Those kind of stats would take a guy exponentially longer than a woman to accumulate.
Think the 150 āBodiesāā¦ Beling to Army Bro.
Its a woman. Only a woman can do something like that because y'all control sex
I'm pretty sure it's the military guy (jake?). Watch his reaction throughout that part.
Omg Tolu needs to take a chill pill. Instead on focusing on the fact she can't vote, why didn't she focus on the fact that 5k was added. That's more money. If she's money driven why isn't that not a positive in her books?? But noooooo she's too busy focused on being a victim of her own mind.
Most the women are disgusting
All of the women in the mean girls clique are disgusting, what is this, high school all over again?
I feel bad for Juelz. Tolu had such a hard on for him and was determined to put him on the chopping block. I don't like her. I respect her speaking about the struggles she's been through and I can't even begin to imagine how difficult and painful her experiences have been. I'm sure there's a great deal of deep seeded trauma. That being said, the other person they took a vote from was a white male...it's not like they were intentionally targeting her or the women in general. She seems like a deeply mean and entitled person.
Honestly, I don't believe in her trauma and struggles for a moment. I think she's just trying to spin a narrative. TV always has to have people play certain archetypes. Most African immigrants in the U.S. are actually middle class and are able to move up the ladder pretty quickly. Nigerians are highly educated and very ambitious. Yes her parents must have struggled in the beginning rebuilding their lives in the U.S. and things may have been difficult for a moment, but I highly doubt things were "taken" away from her. Inspite of what people may say about race in America, it is very much the land of opportunity. There is racism everywhere, America is the only nation I've seen openly talking about it. She may have some very deep seated trust issues, or maybe untrustworthy herself. I believe that one sees the world the way they also think about other people's place in the world.
Was interested in the discussion about whether trust has to be earned or if itās given and can be lost!
If you could pick 3 people to stay safe and win money - who would be your choice at this early stage of the show?
Gaspere and Brian. Not sure about third.
Cowboy, plant single mom, and Gaspere
Gas, Jay, & maybe Simone.
Agree with that.
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This show just seems almost creepy in that it looks directed/edited/cut as if the script was written and guided with AIā¦
Iām so glad as a woman, Iām not the only one thinking the woman on the show are disappointing
It's hilarious how the guys are the only non-shady ones in this show lmao Every single woman on this show is Shady AF Tolu is horrible. The host though!!! Umm "it depends on whether you believe it or not" that is shady, and deceitful wow. If I was Juelz I would have said fuck all of you!! I was honest. Now you can stay here with them snakes !! The faces of Tolu and everyone that voted Juelz out, looking all surprised !! What snakes !!! The shadyness of "shaking her head in disbelief" Tolu, Winnie, Julie, and Lindsay all snakes. Simone, throwing Juelz under the bus snake.
Wait, what did Simone do again?
After they made their decision in the vault, they told the whole house what the offers were, how they came to a decision, and what that decision was. He said we both agreed it would be fair to just use the list on the wall and pick the 1st two names. Tolu got offended, so Simone to gain favor throws Juelz under the bus by saying " I told him not to pick you, I know all the stuff that's been taken from you, I told him not to take this from you." Making it sound like it really wasn't a united decision, when he is saying it was a united decision.
She did tell him not to pick her though. She told him that she would take it personally
I felt like Simone saw from the start that Tolu was a āmean girlā and knew not to get on her bad side - I think her response was out of fear. I found it laughable how oblivious the men were when it came to the 3 āhotā women immediately teaming up. Maybe it was editing, but as a life long ānon hot girlā it has often seemed that the āalphaā group are eventually waiting for a moment to cut each other down. There is no way, in the end, they wonāt turn on each other.
The women are all so shady, people keep talking about Tolu but I feel like Julie is the worst. She wants to lead Jake on, talking about full on manipulation. This show is making me reconsider my opinions on women tbh, or rather humans in general, didnāt think people were this messed up.
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Iām currently watching episode 1 and Tolu is annoying the hell out of me. Poor Juelz! Why do people think they deserve more than somebody else?
> Why do people think they deserve more than somebody else? The whole part about "someone has a million dollars so they don't deserve it!!!!" annoyed me so much. At what point do you cut off who "deserves" it? And who gets to decide?
Anyone else think fighting over $20,000ā¦ Is quite Petty and Laughable ? Just get along and enjoy the Party š
It could end up being a lot more than $20k
I wish they could all agree "Let's enjoy this beautiful home for a month and all walk away with $20,000", but I guess that wouldn't be good TV.
The producers would cry if they did that. They strategically picked problematic people like Tolu to stir the pot, itās very smart casting.
The women who voted are an embarrassment to themselves and - unfortunately - to their sex. They are really *not* coming across well and Tolu in particular is reprehensible. Sheās well balanced in that she has a chip on both shoulders. I hate people like that. The cowboy is very genuine, and the one they voted off was also very decent.
Came here to see if everyone else thought Tolu was absolutely insufferable too l o l im only on episode 2 and I cannot stand any of these women, Simone is alright but the rest are š¬š¬
When those three girls celebrate sharing room, I know they are not trustworthy. I am right with my intuition. The voting says it all.
Please tell me they vote Toul out sooner then later... complete victim mentality. Babe everything isn't as deep as you want to believe it is. If she does win some of that money I hope she invest in a therapist so she can get past her mommas generational trauma.
Good god this comment section is so daft. I aspire to be this ignorant.
Instead of insulting everyone here, perhaps you should explain what you disagree with.
You're closer to your goal than you think.
It's funny because if this were all men, it would be a boring show. Women are great at manipulation, projection, overthinking, and being deceptive.
Damn I was rooting for the women š but #JusticeForJuelz ! I was skeptical of him at first until I saw how genuine he was ..
> how genuine he was But... he was lying from the moment he opened his mouth and kept up the lie. How is that "genuine"?
That lie was moreso just a strategy to avoid being targeted as his real job, police, is a contentious one in recent years. His only mistake was choosing a wacky/memorable job like a stripper as his fake job, he shouldāve picked a more regular/average job. Besides that, he was completely genuine in how he played the game, the actual important part. Now people like Toluā¦ criticising others for seeming fake or two-faced, then immediately acting innocent and even shocked when it was announced Juelz was voted out, then ALSO staying quiet when Bryce asked who voted Juelz out despite chastising others for being dishonest, now **thatās** a REAL liar causing actual consequences for others.
I get where you're coming from, but you can't both lie *for any reason* and be "genuine", that's just a conflict of meaning. (As a side note, if he had just said fitness instructor instead of stripper/fitness instructor, he might have done better...) I totally agree with you on Tolu and most of the rest of them though. Minor, unsurprising spoiler for the next two episodes: >!and they all just keep getting worse and worse...!<
After watching all the episodes out today, it's wild to see in this thread how hysterical people are being about Tolu who is like... not bad at all. I think she was just getting the edit treatment in episode 1. Trust, there are far more awful people in the cast.
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When I saw this new show on Netflix, I thought it would be an interesting psychological reality show with some game theory aspects. Nope, it turned out to be just a horrible person playing the race card. It's frustrating to listen to her talk about taking away her power and creating a victim agenda around that. The rest of those women are not much better. I probably will not watch the rest of the show because it is so disgusting that it is not entertaining.
this forum is bizarre - some of the women followed their intuition and said they didnāt trust juelz and voted him out .. & they were right! he was lyyyyying
But they didn't have to vote him out for any real reason. He was lying about something pretty insignificant.
Well tolu was literally doing the thing she accused Jules of doing so itās the hypocrisy, like if you want to vote someone out for a bigger piece of the pie, thatās fine but to do it because you randomly feel they are untrustworthy without any evidence, thatās some fucking cop behavior
everyone was lying lol.
Yeah. I have a whole lot of issues with this episode, but voting him out for lying isn't one of them. He *was* lying from the moment he opened his mouth. And yet some people in comments call him "genuine"? So odd.
Is this Toluās alt accountš
I may have missed it but who voted Juelz out ?
Winnie, Julie, Lindsay and Tolu. And then they all acted soooo suprised when the host told the cast that "at least one person voted".
Did you fall asleep during the episode?
The 4 girls alliance
Did anyone notice how Juelz was sitting in that big leather interview chair at the end of the episode (56:53 is the time code)? Between him and Izzy on āLove is Blindā, whatās with Netflix reality shows and big muscly dudes dangling their feet like children? Itās not a lot, but itās weird that it happened twice.
Not going to lie that african women enraged me so much she made her whole image this african women with struggles and she always has had it hard like she didn't target the black stripper dude like he is a black male who said he strips? To me that seems like he would've had troubles literally just started talking out of her butt constantly projecting and she single handley was the reason they voted him out because she gas lighted that whole group of females to believe he is this bad man that doesn't like her and targeted her because she can't vote LIKE BRYCE COULDNT VOTE EITHER made no sense if he wanted to take away her power i would've gone with that annoying skinny lady and that annoying african lady these two i felt like honestly were crappy humans like you go in a club that weighs people? and that's your big secret that's pathetic and says a lot about you as a person. That african lady omg she actually enraged me i never thought i would spend 50 minutes watching her project gaslight manipulate and when after they voted stripper dude out and the rich real estate dude was like who did it they looked down and cried LIKE WHY YALL CRYING YALL VOTED THE DUDE OUT FOR NO REASON and then they went to they room and act like a bunch of girl bosses who just saved the world from world war 3 no y'all ganged up on a man and manipulated 7 people that trusted y'all for like 3k cash honestly just bad people
Women are absolutely pissing me off and make me want to stop watching. Why are they all scheming bitches? Damn.
For real! I kept yelling at the tv, you all need to get out of this show (besides Simone) and seek professional help for your deep rooted trauma. Like where the heck is Netflix finding these people? As a woman Iām so embarrassed by their behavior, the men are more genuine/honest.Ā
Because it's good TV (supposedly). Who knows, this might be totally inaccurate as to what happened in the house. Reality shows can edit things to make a situation look completely different than it really was.
Is it common to just have one button buttoned on a shirt. I've seen some leaving 2-3 buttons unbuttoned. But I've not seen a shirt with just one being buttoned.
Does anybody know where Tolu got her dress from (the one with open shoulders with colorful patterns, green and orange)?
The one with that was short in front but floor length in back? It was so pretty!
All these people are annoying but Iām all in with this show
Is no one gonna talk about how unhinged Lindsey is? She escalated to a tantrum with Jake for being placed last when sheās the least memorable, then sobbed about him knowing 1 story from her life. Like get over yourself. I can only imagine how her friendships are in real life. Iād sure as hell not feel comfortable voicing any concerns to her when she acts like a loon.Ā
I wish Juelz listened to Simone in the vault. Simone suggested we don't tell them their vote doesn't count. Because telling them that they voted for Brice and Tolu just caused unnecessary drama. Especially because Tolu seemed like she would obviously vote someone off. At no point did she seem like a team player lol. It was weird that she still got a vote. I wanted to really like her and the other girls, but I'm not a fan of the 3 girls that formed that alliance. They all seem unnecessary mistrustful of others and conniving/ manipulative.
She could still vote but her vote didnāt count.
"We're the stars of the show" ugh made me dislike them even more
So exaggerated all the reactions lol
What is wrong with womenā¦?? Itās like all of them apart from Simone is just insane. Gagging for validation, victim mentality, borderline psychotic (Lindsey) Is this an accurate representation of what men have to deal with on a day to day basis because wow
Thank you for the "apart from (me)" comment! Funny that I'm the sane one... I thought that people would think I'm crazy because I admitted on TV that I name my anthropomorphic plants. I told you I've "met crazier than me"! š
This may not be the right forum for this but itās crazy that the black women targeted the only black male on the show. There was instant distrust instead of unity. Kinda speaks to the constant in-fighting I see with us (black ppl) on Twitter.
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This thread is crazy lmao. Juelz was lying from the jump and the women clocked it.
Tolu is just mad bc guys that look like juelz (the millions of him she constantly sees in her city she said) have always rejected her all her life. thatās why she feels the need to ābe on offense instead of waiting to be shotā . Her whole reasoning in being mad at him for ātaking away her right to voteā like girl shutup youāre dragging the race shit . she was begging for any excuse to get rid of him bc of her own insecurities. and Julie GOD SHE ANNOYS ME she just follows whatever Tolu and the other one do bc itās easier to join them than beat them . theyāre all insufferable really