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I saw something earlier this week that said thar by NY law he can't serve house arrest in property located outside the state, so, assuming that source was correct, Marilago is not an option if they sentence him to house arrest.
Presumably the house arrest would contain restrictions like no public posting on twitter etc, which he'll immediately violate, and land him in Rikers?
Can a man dream?
whats the saying, take a shot at the king you better not miss?
Pretty sure the case they brought was solid, which is why he was found guilty on all counts. There wasn't any room for doubt. So yeah, I think you're right, winning on appeal is unlikely; he might get on appeal a hung jury at best - but that won't stop his sentence from being carried out.
He already sold his plane, but he should be locked up like normal citizens. With the way things have been going I feel like Trump sold his plane knowing that he's not actually going to have to face any real conferences 😮💨
He doesn't think that far into the future. The only thing that matters to him is whatever he's doing at that particular moment. It's why he blows off any contradictions in the things he says.
If he was capable of strategizing for the future he would have gotten out of the money-laundering racket decades ago and just put all his inheritance in the S&P 500.
Reluctantly* handed off …. Before Cohen went to prison for this exact event, Barr had Trumps name changed to “Individual One” in Cohens charging documents and minimized Trumps involvement in the case as much as possible. Then Barr told the state not to investigate it because the Feds were (but that was a lie). Statutes of limitations would’ve expired, if not for trumps complete failure at handling Covid, causing Cuomo to extend statutes of limitations due to court backlog caused by Covid…
I’m starting to think this Donald guy is really bad at running a business, running campaigns, and really really bad at anything involving the judicial system.. I sure hope nobody trusts him running anything important in the world related to those things!
The copium is hilariously predictable.
"He'll never beat hillary" ... beats Hillary. Everyone flips their shit, and to cope;
“He’ll get elected again” … loses election
“He’ll never be indicted on anything” … gets indicted on 93 criminal felony counts
“He’ll never be convicted of anything” … gets convicted of 34 criminal counts
“He’ll never go to jail” …
I'm gonna allow myself a little hope here that they lock him up for 4 years. I'll settle for 6 months or so, though. None of this house arrest bullshit.
Sentencing is a few days before the Republican National Convention. I would so love to see him give his acceptance speech via his 3 minute allotment on the prison pay phone.
And so what if he committed a little *light treason*? I mean who wouldn’t have taken billions from the saudis for nuclear secrets? Hope they go easy on him, he’s just a boy for Christ’s sake
In the eyes of the law that’s true so federal sentencing guidelines all but mandate a minimal sentence. That said, it’s willful, egregious, and he’s unrepentant all of which are common reasons for escalating punishment.
I am hopeful that this continues to whittle away at his support, not changing minds but just making it harder for the millions who don’t like him but still consider voting for him. All they need to do is stay home.
I’m also hopeful that this is the first domino to fall and the other cases put him in prison. This was generally considered to be the weakest case against him and he was utterly crushed. Now he’s a convicted felon and the odds of him getting a slap on the wrist for the remaining cases is pretty small. They just need to go to trial.
It is a great tragedy that the documents case went to Cannon.
I'm with you 100% it was just one of those "really?!" Moments when I heard an anchor softballing this in thwt manner. We all watched this shitshow live for 4+ years. Fuck trump we all know hes guilty af of more and more. It should not be that hard to prove he did half of it out in the open. I was shocked when I walked into my greenroom and saw the headline "GUILTY OF ALL COUNTS" mid day.
Was a good day :)
I get disappointed everytime I read that, but it just dawned on me that he's in the middle of campaigning. He effectively wouldn't be allowed to campaign at all.
That's a win in my book.
Yeah I’m not sure who’s actually excited about this. We know he’s not going to step foot in prison. We know he’s not gonna pay a cent of the hundreds of millions of dollars he owes.
What actual punishment is he gonna face? Is this just another footnote in the ceaseless amount of felonies he’s gonna appeal until he’s dead?
Not that his constituents were ever gonna change their mind off of this conviction but won’t this just strengthen their victim complex?
I've just seen a load of them professing their $1000+ donations to him/his campaign on twitter because they're that mad. And yes, when I say "mad", I don't mean angry, although they are that too.
Imagine being poor and donating to a billionaire who's such a c\*\*\*/fraudster/grifter...
I. just. do . not. get. it.
Yep, and as a felon that means he can only get a limited amount of jobs such as factory work, truck driver, president of the United States, cleaner, etc.
hey lets see if we can get this to number 1 in the charts, mr trump this ones for you! :D
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3dGZPguSM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3dGZPguSM)
You're asking for a logical explanation for illogical behavior. The fact is they will ignore any & all evidence that may even slightly hint that they could possibly be wrong. Trump has normalized ignoring reality for his base. It allows them to blame everyone else for their own screwups.
This of course assumes that they're even aware he says half the shit he does; Fox won't tell them, that's for sure.
I had someone call General John F. Kelly a disgruntled ex employed when I pointed out what Trump said and where the information from. Like they love the military until their leader gets called out...
I recommend watching Johnathan Haidts Ted Talk on Liberal and Conservative morals. In his view we all share the same 5 but value them differently. This is pre Trump but the underpinnings of the divergent conclusions that lead to a wholesale denial seem to at least be hinted at. There are harder scientific explanations out there that actually show significant divergence in brain physiology. Haidt, to his credit, steps outside us/them thinking with an apt popular cultural reference as well as Buddhist text that helps me stay in a stable head space when it is so easy to be yanked this way and that.
I’m finding it hard to celebrate. I’m glad he’s been convicted, but I think it will have no effect on the election. I’m afraid of what happens if he wins and I’m afraid of what happens if he loses. They’ve made sure that there is no victory unless it’s their victory and this conviction plays into that. And he won’t get jail time most likely. And even if he did, what then? Supreme Court will never disallow him from running. It’s gross. Just a disgusting moment to be an American. Best we can hope for is a Biden win with little political backlash.
Say, can you see
By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watched
Were so gallantly, yeah, streaming?
And the rockets' red glare
The bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave
Lock him up. And keep going after all his bootlickers…[https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7fKVODAfOx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7fKVODAfOx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
look, I understand its your coping mechanism and you are almost dead inside from the trauma he's inflicted on all of us, but holy shit, its not nothing.
The man just got convicted by a Jury of his peers and is now a CONVICTED CRIMINAL.
Thats NOT nothing. Even if he spends 0 days in jail, he's a criminal, as determined by a Jury.
To be honest, this looks more like coping to me. Including the hostile way you say it. Grasping at anything to be able to say ‘we did it’.
‘Even if he spends 0 days in jail.’ Ah yes, without consequences, again.
I heard it’s probably just going to be overturned on appeal.
EDIT:
JesUS everyone. It’s not like I’m voting for that asshole.
Here. It’s not that big of a deal. Just something I heard that I wanted to civilly add to the conversation. I was actually *hoping* some of you might have further insight. Past tense.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qxKEJ008cfo&si=8TJG5qb4JkKEuE8N
do us all a favor and give us next weeks lotto ticket since you can predict the fucking future.
jesus christ, allow people a tiny bit of hope before you crush the dying shreds of it clinging to their souls.
killjoy.
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Make sure to rough him up when putting him in the wagon.
Don’t worry about being gentle.
Make him share a bedroom with his wife. That’s harsh punishment for both of them.
“Watch your head….ah jeez ya bumped yerself…”
A+ comment!
Grab him by the pussy
In his case it's more of a neck-vag. Or is it neck-gina?
I think it’s the orangina 🤔
If they grab him by the pussy they can just grab him anywhere lol
He won't see the inside of a jail cell. If anything, he will get house arrest at MariLago.
I saw something earlier this week that said thar by NY law he can't serve house arrest in property located outside the state, so, assuming that source was correct, Marilago is not an option if they sentence him to house arrest.
Presumably the house arrest would contain restrictions like no public posting on twitter etc, which he'll immediately violate, and land him in Rikers? Can a man dream?
The amount of people convinced he'll win an appeal is mind boggling.
whats the saying, take a shot at the king you better not miss? Pretty sure the case they brought was solid, which is why he was found guilty on all counts. There wasn't any room for doubt. So yeah, I think you're right, winning on appeal is unlikely; he might get on appeal a hung jury at best - but that won't stop his sentence from being carried out.
There's no jury or witnesses in an appeal. The appeal process sorta "reviews the conduct" of the lower court.
Got ya. By all accounts the judge ran a very very tight court.
If he even saw ANY of that type of punishment - they wouldn't make the mistake of putting im on house arrest there.
Put him in a trailer in the middle of a remote military base with no WIFI available.
Put him in a trailer is already a huge punishment for him
Exactly. But we don't need to hear about it. That's why he doesn't get WIFI!!
No WiFi. No phone. No microphone. No reporters.
LOCK HIM UP!
No bail but sentencing July 11th. 😮💨
No bail means something entirely different when you are poor
My thoughts exactly.
7-11 should get in on this. Trump Slurpees, maybe
They'd have to be orange slurpees.
They’re advertised as Yuge size but they’re only 8 oz
$49.95.
$47.45
Damn, good job on that number but, I'll off ya tree fitty.
Ew. They'd taste like self tanner and Big Mac sweat. Ugh!
Does that mean he doesn’t have to post bail, like he’s free to go for now? Or like they’re holding him because he’s a flight risk or something?
He's free until sentencing.
It would be impossible for him to flee. Imagine an orange size man going through the airport. Impossible to miss
What size is an orange?
BIG
Yuge
He already sold his plane, but he should be locked up like normal citizens. With the way things have been going I feel like Trump sold his plane knowing that he's not actually going to have to face any real conferences 😮💨
He doesn't think that far into the future. The only thing that matters to him is whatever he's doing at that particular moment. It's why he blows off any contradictions in the things he says. If he was capable of strategizing for the future he would have gotten out of the money-laundering racket decades ago and just put all his inheritance in the S&P 500.
So he is staying at some location with bars?
LOCK HIM UP!
GEN POP!!!
Weird...pronouns matter
Waiting for Hilary
Just as a side note, this case was spun off from the Mueller investigation and handed off to state prosecutors.
Reluctantly* handed off …. Before Cohen went to prison for this exact event, Barr had Trumps name changed to “Individual One” in Cohens charging documents and minimized Trumps involvement in the case as much as possible. Then Barr told the state not to investigate it because the Feds were (but that was a lie). Statutes of limitations would’ve expired, if not for trumps complete failure at handling Covid, causing Cuomo to extend statutes of limitations due to court backlog caused by Covid…
Holy shit-covid pulling its weight for once. One disease taking out another.
It nearly did back in 2020 as well.
Maybe they should have also raised the statue for notorious figures whose investigations and discovery will never reach the statue.
I’m starting to think this Donald guy is really bad at running a business, running campaigns, and really really bad at anything involving the judicial system.. I sure hope nobody trusts him running anything important in the world related to those things!
You would hope, but then there’s the cult
He's very g(r)ifted at grifting though!
Yes! On all 34 count!
60 more to go.
🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Counts 1-34 at the very least.
Sooooooo jail? (Yeah right)
Home arrest most likely because he was president blah blah general population blah blah… but appeals first, ugh
Lock him up
The copium is hilariously predictable. "He'll never beat hillary" ... beats Hillary. Everyone flips their shit, and to cope; “He’ll get elected again” … loses election “He’ll never be indicted on anything” … gets indicted on 93 criminal felony counts “He’ll never be convicted of anything” … gets convicted of 34 criminal counts “He’ll never go to jail” … I'm gonna allow myself a little hope here that they lock him up for 4 years. I'll settle for 6 months or so, though. None of this house arrest bullshit.
They really should sentence him to jail and let the secret service figure it out
Sentencing is a few days before the Republican National Convention. I would so love to see him give his acceptance speech via his 3 minute allotment on the prison pay phone.
Never say never
I already hear the news trying to spin this as "non-violent, first-time offender"
I think they're trying to predict what sentence he will get.
Isn't he guilty of rape and sexual assault in the same state.
And so what if he committed a little *light treason*? I mean who wouldn’t have taken billions from the saudis for nuclear secrets? Hope they go easy on him, he’s just a boy for Christ’s sake
In the eyes of the law that’s true so federal sentencing guidelines all but mandate a minimal sentence. That said, it’s willful, egregious, and he’s unrepentant all of which are common reasons for escalating punishment. I am hopeful that this continues to whittle away at his support, not changing minds but just making it harder for the millions who don’t like him but still consider voting for him. All they need to do is stay home. I’m also hopeful that this is the first domino to fall and the other cases put him in prison. This was generally considered to be the weakest case against him and he was utterly crushed. Now he’s a convicted felon and the odds of him getting a slap on the wrist for the remaining cases is pretty small. They just need to go to trial. It is a great tragedy that the documents case went to Cannon.
I'm with you 100% it was just one of those "really?!" Moments when I heard an anchor softballing this in thwt manner. We all watched this shitshow live for 4+ years. Fuck trump we all know hes guilty af of more and more. It should not be that hard to prove he did half of it out in the open. I was shocked when I walked into my greenroom and saw the headline "GUILTY OF ALL COUNTS" mid day. Was a good day :)
Most likely it’s going to be home confinement
I get disappointed everytime I read that, but it just dawned on me that he's in the middle of campaigning. He effectively wouldn't be allowed to campaign at all. That's a win in my book.
He’ll have other Republicans cosplay him, like the teaser we say few weeks ago at the courthouse
Yeah I’m not sure who’s actually excited about this. We know he’s not going to step foot in prison. We know he’s not gonna pay a cent of the hundreds of millions of dollars he owes. What actual punishment is he gonna face? Is this just another footnote in the ceaseless amount of felonies he’s gonna appeal until he’s dead? Not that his constituents were ever gonna change their mind off of this conviction but won’t this just strengthen their victim complex?
My faith in my fellow Americans has been restored!!!
Apparently there was even one Magat on the jury.
I refuse to believe that, the prosecution would have never allowed it and there's no way they would have convicted.
Did anyone else cry out of all of it? So cathartic!!!
Lock him up!
1st of 4, if not more.
Unfortunately, this will further radicalize his base. The MAGA assholes will view this as further confirmation of "The Deep State".
Probably, but it needs to happen. Americans don’t negotiate with terrorists.
I don’t think they can be any more radicalized. They wear freaking diapers in solidarity.
There's always the flavor-aide.
I've just seen a load of them professing their $1000+ donations to him/his campaign on twitter because they're that mad. And yes, when I say "mad", I don't mean angry, although they are that too. Imagine being poor and donating to a billionaire who's such a c\*\*\*/fraudster/grifter... I. just. do . not. get. it.
Brain rot is a hell of a drug.
They were going to be galvanized no matter the outcome.
Fuck his base.
Yes. Soooo guilty.
Justice just grabbed him by the pussy.
I need a visual of this so I can look at it and cherish it.
I need to mount it on the wall.
Is this the winning bigly we hear about so much? Lol the greatest grifter in American history
Oh no, the consequences of his actions!
The stress of this conviction might just give him a heart attack
And nothing will change and he still might become president. This country is dumb.
He’s a felon. That’s changed
Yep, and as a felon that means he can only get a limited amount of jobs such as factory work, truck driver, president of the United States, cleaner, etc.
So lame the "NOTHING CHANGES GUYZ" drumbeat is chanted over and over even after a guilty verdict.
I can’t wait to he’s sentenced to 4 years out of the potential 136 and people say yeah but it’s only 4 years he should be executed nothing changed
hey lets see if we can get this to number 1 in the charts, mr trump this ones for you! :D [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3dGZPguSM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3dGZPguSM)
The chicks are just gonna dig him more and dudes will fly their flags even more proudly. My local militia goons all see him as a champion of freedom.
I don't understand how they feel this way and ignore the fact he called actual service members losers. Make it make sense.
You're asking for a logical explanation for illogical behavior. The fact is they will ignore any & all evidence that may even slightly hint that they could possibly be wrong. Trump has normalized ignoring reality for his base. It allows them to blame everyone else for their own screwups. This of course assumes that they're even aware he says half the shit he does; Fox won't tell them, that's for sure.
I had someone call General John F. Kelly a disgruntled ex employed when I pointed out what Trump said and where the information from. Like they love the military until their leader gets called out...
I recommend watching Johnathan Haidts Ted Talk on Liberal and Conservative morals. In his view we all share the same 5 but value them differently. This is pre Trump but the underpinnings of the divergent conclusions that lead to a wholesale denial seem to at least be hinted at. There are harder scientific explanations out there that actually show significant divergence in brain physiology. Haidt, to his credit, steps outside us/them thinking with an apt popular cultural reference as well as Buddhist text that helps me stay in a stable head space when it is so easy to be yanked this way and that.
Hey thanks for the rec. I'll check it out!
What the Russian bots down vote this to oblivion
I’m finding it hard to celebrate. I’m glad he’s been convicted, but I think it will have no effect on the election. I’m afraid of what happens if he wins and I’m afraid of what happens if he loses. They’ve made sure that there is no victory unless it’s their victory and this conviction plays into that. And he won’t get jail time most likely. And even if he did, what then? Supreme Court will never disallow him from running. It’s gross. Just a disgusting moment to be an American. Best we can hope for is a Biden win with little political backlash.
central park five .Penny for your thoughts
Say, can you see By the dawn's early light What so proudly we hailed At the twilight's last gleaming? Whose broad stripes and bright stars Through the perilous fight O'er the ramparts we watched Were so gallantly, yeah, streaming? And the rockets' red glare The bombs bursting in air Gave proof through the night That our flag was still there O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave
WE ALL NEW IT.
Awww yeah.
And you guys said it won’t happen
I never thought it would, given that other presidents have done worse and are seemingly immune from prosecution.
## usa
LOSER!!!!
Eat shit wrinkly fuck.
Lock him up. And keep going after all his bootlickers…[https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7fKVODAfOx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7fKVODAfOx/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
YAY! Hope he goes to Jail!
I bet he just gets probation with the option to go to jail if commits more crimes. 😩
Strange coincidence? 106 times 5 is 530. 1/06 5/30
***Felonious Trump~***
Sounds like he finally made America great.
And nothing is going to happen. That’s just how it is.
nice copium.
I want him to be accountable, I just had lost hope
I want him to be fucked up so bad. Some call what you said copium, but i believe those people have not seen how he’s been treated till now.
look, I understand its your coping mechanism and you are almost dead inside from the trauma he's inflicted on all of us, but holy shit, its not nothing. The man just got convicted by a Jury of his peers and is now a CONVICTED CRIMINAL. Thats NOT nothing. Even if he spends 0 days in jail, he's a criminal, as determined by a Jury.
That is indeed NOTHING, if he’s actually not held accountable after found guilty. You’re missing the point.
To be honest, this looks more like coping to me. Including the hostile way you say it. Grasping at anything to be able to say ‘we did it’. ‘Even if he spends 0 days in jail.’ Ah yes, without consequences, again.
I heard it’s probably just going to be overturned on appeal. EDIT: JesUS everyone. It’s not like I’m voting for that asshole. Here. It’s not that big of a deal. Just something I heard that I wanted to civilly add to the conversation. I was actually *hoping* some of you might have further insight. Past tense. https://youtube.com/watch?v=qxKEJ008cfo&si=8TJG5qb4JkKEuE8N
do us all a favor and give us next weeks lotto ticket since you can predict the fucking future. jesus christ, allow people a tiny bit of hope before you crush the dying shreds of it clinging to their souls. killjoy.
Not even a killjoy. Just a random making things up. Imagine being such a sad sack that you have to pull something like that out of thin air.
Show your work.
It wont, but it’s possible he may be forced to be on house arrest upon appeal
It's not wise to listen crack whore's speculation, but I guess you can make an exception when it's your mom.