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AustonsCashews

Absolutely not


easilyamusedyeah

Oh no. Can I please ask what you would recommend? Considering we cannot do more than 20% offset..


SaIamiNips

That is not 20% and where did you see that rule.


Blocked-Author

That 20% rule would seem to go against pretty much everything I know about tile layout.


Akira6969

i see that now on long tile. they are bowed so thats reason for 20% offset.


Blocked-Author

That could make sense. 20% on a long tile is still a good amount of distance. These shorter tiles and only 20%, seems like it wouldn’t be enough lap.


Unblest

What the hell? Are you sure it isn't a *minimum* 20% offset?


middlelane8

That doesn’t look 20% offset though is it? Not sure 20% would make huge difference…I think people on here would recommend more random lengths so you’d have to cut some down - think hardwood floor layout


easilyamusedyeah

I tried to make it random so it’s actually a mix of 20%, 15%, and 10% offsets. Do you think I should just max it out at 30% offset then just do an even stair step pattern? Like the typical 1/3 offset step pattern I see online?


middlelane8

Stair step is also not a good solution either. I’d like some others to chime in. But there’s a better way than static patterns. [try this](https://www.finehomebuilding.com/project-guides/tiling/wood-look-plank-flooring)


easilyamusedyeah

Thanks for the link! We tried to copy the pattern a bit and [this](https://imgur.com/a/FwPVPvA) is what it looks like.


middlelane8

Oh nice. Thanks for the follow up! I think that looks pretty good - a big difference. Do you agree? What’s the designer saying?


easilyamusedyeah

Tbh, the architect was fine with the initial layout so I don’t really trust his feedback anymore on this lol. But I’m really liking it! Though it’s not really random like in the link you sent, this pattern repeats after 8 rows. I do agree that this looks pretty good and we are gonna go with this! :)


Junkmans1

Don’t do patterns! And don’t stop at 20% or 30%. The only max should be 50%


pobodys-nerfect5

That’s not random. Do some 50% do some 33%. Your pattern isn’t random when every row is within 3-4in of each other


laurenboebertsson

> Do some 50% Did you miss the part where the manufacturer recommends a max of 20%? Jesus fucking christ man just don't comment.


No-Detective9003

Jesus F- ing christ its just a recommendation. If they recommend a 3/8 joint are you just going to listen to it? You know how many planks I have done that laid flat and was recommended to not do it. Make your own choices, your the pro, not some freaken tile company you don't even know just covering their asses. Sick and tired of sheep setters who can't make their own professional decisions


SaIamiNips

Nope.


Blocked-Author

Bad


DangerHawk

This looks really bad. You need to pick an offset and pattern and stick to it.


ReverseGiraffe120

I’m going to assume that those are 4’ lengths. Personally, I’d break them into 1’, 2’, 3’, and full lengths then stagger my pattern/seams from there. A constant pattern of 6” overhang like this one ends up looking worse than if you just did them in a four column line.


easilyamusedyeah

The tiles are 38” long. You’re right, the overhang needs to be mostly 12” or 1/3. I think we’ve laid it out with the stagger too close to each other and that’s why it looks off?


Unlikely_Rope_81

Long axis of tile should follow long axis of room if possible. I can’t think of any reason you can’t do a 33% offset… weird that the tile manufacturer specifies that.


easilyamusedyeah

Our architect wanted this orientation, although I did mention to him that what you said seems to be the recommendation. Our home is a bit narrow and he said he didn’t want the bowling alley look. I am kinda digging it though. Should I insist?


Unlikely_Rope_81

You should insist on whatever you prefer. I don’t have the “whole home” context and I’m not an architect, but I always follow the long axis of the spaces.


easilyamusedyeah

I’m so overwhelmed. Thank you for your input, really appreaciate it.


No_City4925

designers are dumb.


Agreeable-Fly-1980

fuck designers... absolutely useless


kverduin

I second that input. Always follow the long axis, can’t go wrong. Also lay them next to each other at 30% offset and check the lippage. If it seems reasonably flat, use that layout. 20% probably just covers their ass because it’s a long piece, but that layout looks like shit no offense so I’d do what makes it look good as long as it doesn’t cause crazy lippage


Grouchy-Persimmon-29

Architects are a waste of money, I don’t know how many projects I’ve had to rip out my own work because when they sell the property or lease it the tenants can’t stand the god awful crap they put in. And have it all re done. Pick your own style and what you like and save yourself a ton of money to spend on doing it the way you want.


custhulard

I agree as long as the tile isn't supposed to flow into the other room without a transition. The other room might look better oriented that way.


JFKFC50

No matter what I’m laying, I never put joints closer than 5-6 inches and never go over about 35 percent.


easilyamusedyeah

Do you think I should still try to randomize the distance between joints? Or just stick to an even 33% offset?


JFKFC50

I started when engineered hardwood was the go to in my area. As soon as glue down plank and wood look tile came in style we just kept everything random. I think it looks more natural and if you have an island or something to go around, you can use the “random to your advantage to avoid unnecessary, difficult cuts.


engineereenigne

Bad bad bad bad


Realistic-Major2448

It's your preference, but I wouldn't do that. Just do the normal split in the middle


mlcbmore

No. The first step is to look on the box and follow the manufacturer recommendation, which is probably 33% offset


DoubleDouble0G

Yeah, no.


fresh_and_gritty

Jesus people. The minimum should be at least the width of the tile. If ur tile is 5 inches wide. Than the joints shouldn’t come closer than 5”. What you have here is like another Redditor said, u played out maximum when it was clearly asking for minimum. Ur way over thinking this. Random is exactly what it means within certain rules and limits. Go with random.


easilyamusedyeah

The box definitely says 20% maximum. But we might do 30% and 20% offset and a sort of random pattern like [this.](https://imgur.com/a/M0neTs7)


fresh_and_gritty

I would just do random with 30% max. I’ve never heard of 20% but I’m pretty young in the game. That just seems really small to me.


Old_Pomegranate510

I start with a whole piece and throw my remainder to the next row for the random pattern. As long as it doesn’t take me far out of manufacture’s spec


easilyamusedyeah

I think I need to push it to 1/3 offset. I’ll ask to see [this](https://imgur.com/a/c5VOO9T) laid out tomorrow. Would this look better?


i_tiled_it

Are you asking your installer to dry lay the entire floor...twice?


satayturtle

These tile are too short to random lay without it looking goofy, even if you cut some down shorter in the middle, I've seen it many times and just looks bad but people with attention to detail like the installer and designer (good ones at least) and now you will notice it. Just do a 1/3 stagger zipper or step pattern. Or you can get a longer tile, minimum 36" if you want to achieve a random lay that won't look jarring.


middlelane8

Good stuff 👍🏼


Gypsyfisherman

Whatever the width of the board is? Do that minimum offset. 8” plank do 8” offset. The planks look to be about 36”x8” planks? You can do random pattern just try not to come with in 4”-6” of the next offset grout joint. If they were 48” planks random works very well.