Omg, I'm mostly blind and in my fb blinds group we share jokes about common things that mess up our lives (mostly wet floor signs and trailer hitches) they are going to lose their shit when I describe this one to them!
Just for context, this vice is very square with few rounded surfaces. It's already either painted red or covered in shin blood and tears. The example pictured has its mouth open
So...like...y'all realize you can take this thing off and put it back on when you need to use it, and store it under the seat inside the cab when not in use so you're not being one of those assholes that leaves this trailer hitch sticking way the fuck out of the back of the truck into planes of traffic and blocking sidewalks, right?
Half the time, it seems like those giant trucks are driven by some 70-year-old asshole that has a handicap plate and seems to think his truck is 4 feet longer than it actually is, preventing him from pulling his four-door, long bed monstrosity all the way into the handicap spot at Walmart.
My small workshop is a work in progress and there have been times where having a vise would have helped a lot, but now I can get back to work until I have a solid bench to mount it.
There's lots of ready made work benches available; even kits & plans. Amazon even has them as does Lowes & HD (last I looked). But you might need to order from their website for pick up or delivery.
Anchoring the bench 'Rock of Gibraltar' stable is worth the extra time/effort. Good dedicated over bench lighting also goes a long way.
My temporary bench I threw together right after buying my house. Needed something quick and dirty to get some move in the house jobs done. That was 12 years ago. Still haven't gotten around to replacing it.
>Why buy when you can make it for twice the price?
Jokes aside, with some good practice and planning you also end up 10x quality (or more) and custom to your fit and needs.
Sorry, I honestly haven't been keeping up with them.
Big, stout & heavy is what your after... it should be a lifetime item.
Oh, and don't stow stuff on it, it's a work surface, not storage space.
If you arenât going to DIY one Harbor Freight makes a âhardwoodâ bench that is actually pretty nice. Â Itâs not premium, but I feel like you get a lot for your money with it compared to others. Â
A basic design I used for my workbench and shelving: 2x4 uprights, *bolted* to cross-members, with diagonal stabilizers screwed to them on the sides, and a pair on the back, with a 4x8' sheet screwed down as the work surface. The bottom cross-members also support a half-depth shelf for under-bench storage.
Bolts for the main load-bearing joints means I won't have to deal with bent or sheared fasteners if I disaasemble it in the future.
Look in the free section of your local classifieds plenty of free work benches,sadly plenty of old dudes move into nursing homes, die, and kids happy anxious to get rid of our treasures, I score a grat work bench, every time I use it I think of the guy that build it.
Think field service trucks with utility box beds full of tools. Most guys fabricate a vise mouting bracket that bolts to the bumper on these type of trucks.
I just made one for my work truck last month.
Interesting, not something we see much of in the UK. Some heating engineers (aka plumbers with a gas qualification) and some white goods servicing engineers have vans fitted out with benching inside.
We had some home made ones at work that came out further Than the tailgate and up to that level, we had one forman who would leave it on all the time, I can't count how many times i hit it with my shins or higher up walking around the back of his truck.
Those immediately came to my mind, along with the scene from _Stir Crazy_ where the smaller man in a fight gets a pair of pliers on some portion of the bigger guy's package & the big guy immediately looses his belligerence.
I'm picturing a beat up, old, Ford Maverick getting equipped with a vise & suddenly ruling over a parking lot filled with F-150's & Sierra's equipped with truck nuts.
F-350 addressing Maverick: "May I fetch you some wiper fluid or a new air freshener?"
but can it withstand the gentle tap of a well fisted 20 lb sledgehammer? or even a hard slung 5 lbâr?⌠looks like it could shred a tesla front bonnet though, Iâll give you that much
i sure hope so, harbor freight vises are well known for casting flaws and not being hardened enough to take serious abuse. Iâve broken my share, just tightening them down
yeah, the Central Forge/Machinery low end vises were. Those were $40-$50-$60 vises back before HF even offered anything better. What else would you expect going that cheap and trying to do service truck work with one. They were only ever for seriously light duty homeowner type use.
The Doyle line is not at all known for breaking from tightening them down. They're a much better vise made from ductile iron and the ~2x-3x price premium will go a long way over the lower end line that just used cheese grade 30k cast grey iron. A couple of the Doyles are basically just rebrands/clones of similar Yosts anyways, probably from the same factory/OEM and Yosts made of the same 60k-70k DI weren't ever "well known" to break from being tightened down either.
When I worked on field tile, we had a welded up version of this and it worked quite well. I wouldn't hit anything in a vice this size with a 20 pound sledge though. It's more of the ball peen or 2-4 pound cross peen size thing.
i mentioned the sledge merely as an idea of the potential abuse these can be subjected to. my old service truck had a pretty solid bumper with very heavy old forged vice on it. came that way when I got the truck from a retired welder/pipe plumber. some yahooo slammed into the rear of the truck at a light, hitting the vice handle, vice survived, bumper which was 1/2â steel plate welded, was bent badly at the vice mount. my smaller HF vice I mounted on the other side popped right off, when the bumper bent shattering the HF vice base⌠had to beat the old vice handle back straight and buy another HF replacement. took my 20lbr to straighten it. insurance got me the bumper straightened
I guess I mean the answer is no, regardless of who is making it. It's not a practical thing to do. You put this in place when you need it and then remove it when you're done. You don't drive around with it, that's not really reasonable. And any 2 hander is gonna be more than it can handle because of where it is mounted. Sure a hitch is strong, but I'm not gonna be surprised if I beat the fuck out of this with a 20 pound sledge and something breaks. You give me a hammer that big and there aren't a lot of thing I can't destroy.
youâd be surprised how many service trucks (at least in NM) leave massive hitches, vices, and steel âballsâ hanging out driving down the road⌠more often than notâŚ
Jeez, we never would have done that just due to the shin risk. Our trucks all had tools and stuff we needed to get out often. In fact, just in my every day life, I find a vice to be handy to have in a regular pick up truck but I bolted it to a 6' long oak plank. Obviously you can't use much more than a ball peen on it, but its a functional 3rd hand which is more or less all I need
Those new ductile cast iron HF 'Doyle' vises are nice!
I bought this version a while back:
[https://www.harborfreight.com/4-12-in-swivel-vise-with-anvil-and-pipe-jaws-57737.html](https://www.harborfreight.com/4-12-in-swivel-vise-with-anvil-and-pipe-jaws-57737.html)
Really like it, use it more than the Wilton anymore.
They're supposed to be, I bought their needle nose pliers off of hearing they were a solid brand and have been pretty disappointed. They're situated right underneath Icon as the number 1 tool brand there.
I regret lots of HF buys. Trying to avoid. I do use Doyle needle nose pliers, and at least HF will indefinitely trade me for new ones when I break them, so that's nice.
Far as I know, 'Doyle' is just a marketing name HF cobbled up... don't know about the other 'Doyle' stuff, but I've been very happy with the vise. Haven't abused it thus far; but definitely haven't coddled it either. It's earning it's keep
Some of those new generation HF vises aren't the typical offerings of yore... if nothing else; they're absolutely worth stopping by for a look.
I've seen advertisements where I refill my forklift propane for those. They've been selling them for years. They want a small fortune for it. Glad to see China finally made an affordable version.
I have a few of the trick tools [versa-mount](https://www.trick-tools.com/search/go?view=grid&w=versa-mount) versions of such things - my workspace is small - I have the receiver part under the surface my gladiator rolling table and I can switch out tools as needed. The mounts can go on the bench receiver - or a hitch receiver. When not in use, the tools and attached mounts sit on the shelf.
I had a metal shop make me a hitch platform and I bolt 6â jaws to the little platform. This is a pretty cool idea having it built into the vice itself. The only problem is that you canât rotate this. I always am putting g crazy stuff into my vice and sometimes need to spin it to make stuff fit.
Holly shit I actually could use this. I'm tired of breaking out my little Clamp that I have to find somewhere else to Clamp it to. I like that, for real when Soldering Clamps are extremely helpful, when threading pipe they are necessary
Whatâs even better is to build a âLâ shaped piece of steel and a vice that slips into the top of it, so that its level with the tailgate and just behind the tailgate when the tailgate is down. That way you have a portable work bench and vice (I even screwed down a piece of plywood to the tailgate to make it a better work surface). I have spent many many hours rebuilding oilfield equipment in the middle of nowhere with that kind of setup.
You're not in the middle of a muddy field 10min drive and 4 gates away from a vice bolted to a work bench. They're not great but vehicle mounted vices are better than nothing.
Did ya get the cut-tin torch and welder yet? Your 10 unintentional trips away from having a fully stocked service truck. Im not allowed to go in there unsupervised anymore.
And if i had that id mount a sword in it for those pesky tailgaters.
Get a pipe vice stand. Your back will tank you. My work tried to get me to get one of these for my work truck. I fabbed one to sit on the bumper. My back thanks me every time I use it.
I feel like this vise is a bit too low to actually be useful.
As a pipe fitter by trade, many of our company vehicles have pipe vices mounted on the truck, so maybe having access to a truck mounted vise, Iâm biased.
I do camera inspections in pipes, as well as high pressure water blasting. We need a pintel hitch for pulling equipment, the box with the camera robot/controller sits in the gated flatbed.
It didn't take long for me to realize before I even started setting up the camera, take that fucking hitch off. My shins have dents.
I made one last year. Had the vise already. Welded a plate to a receiver and bolted the vise to it... Then made one for my nephew...Haven't broken them yet...
I love all the shin jokes . That was the 2 thing I was thinking about... I can just see it now lost of breath with a aaaa'AAA'AAA' sssssssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiitttttttt I know I forgot something
Iâve had the Wilton version a few years now. Not something I use everyday but well worth keeping around. Only complaint is weird height. Still itâs better than nothing. Really helps bridge the gap between daily driver and full on service truck.
The shinbuster 3900
This is the shin eliminator đ
The Shin Annihilator 9 Trillion.
The Shinnihilator
Omg, I'm mostly blind and in my fb blinds group we share jokes about common things that mess up our lives (mostly wet floor signs and trailer hitches) they are going to lose their shit when I describe this one to them!
Just for context, this vice is very square with few rounded surfaces. It's already either painted red or covered in shin blood and tears. The example pictured has its mouth open
So true! I take my trailer out 4-5 times a year, but leave the ball hitch in all the time and bang my knees on it at least twice a week!
Illegal in some states.
Banging your knees on something is illegal in several states?
Banging many things is illegal in many states.
*Dueling banjos music intensifies*
You sure got a real purty knee..
You can lead a horse to waterâŚ
Imagine the vice is left perfectly open and you not only hit your shin, but wedge your shin in the vise
âŚas your wife is driving off.
OâDoyle rules
I etched that into my quick flip utility knife just to see who was cool and who isn't. I love the laughs when someone gets it.
First I thought it was cool, then after I read that, I realized how many times I would slam my shins into it. Lol
So...like...y'all realize you can take this thing off and put it back on when you need to use it, and store it under the seat inside the cab when not in use so you're not being one of those assholes that leaves this trailer hitch sticking way the fuck out of the back of the truck into planes of traffic and blocking sidewalks, right? Half the time, it seems like those giant trucks are driven by some 70-year-old asshole that has a handicap plate and seems to think his truck is 4 feet longer than it actually is, preventing him from pulling his four-door, long bed monstrosity all the way into the handicap spot at Walmart.
Also the Tailgater 9000
Radiator remover
My small workshop is a work in progress and there have been times where having a vise would have helped a lot, but now I can get back to work until I have a solid bench to mount it.
There's lots of ready made work benches available; even kits & plans. Amazon even has them as does Lowes & HD (last I looked). But you might need to order from their website for pick up or delivery. Anchoring the bench 'Rock of Gibraltar' stable is worth the extra time/effort. Good dedicated over bench lighting also goes a long way.
Why buy when you can make it for twice the price?
Making it might be more expensive, but it will also take longer.
Making it might be more expensive and take longer, but it will also require more energy.
Donât forget to make a temporary portable work bench first so you have the right set up to get started on the final bench.
My temporary bench I threw together right after buying my house. Needed something quick and dirty to get some move in the house jobs done. That was 12 years ago. Still haven't gotten around to replacing it.
>Why buy when you can make it for twice the price? Jokes aside, with some good practice and planning you also end up 10x quality (or more) and custom to your fit and needs.
Any recommendations? I'm having trouble shopping for one without paying out the nose.
Sorry, I honestly haven't been keeping up with them. Big, stout & heavy is what your after... it should be a lifetime item. Oh, and don't stow stuff on it, it's a work surface, not storage space.
If you arenât going to DIY one Harbor Freight makes a âhardwoodâ bench that is actually pretty nice. Â Itâs not premium, but I feel like you get a lot for your money with it compared to others. Â
A basic design I used for my workbench and shelving: 2x4 uprights, *bolted* to cross-members, with diagonal stabilizers screwed to them on the sides, and a pair on the back, with a 4x8' sheet screwed down as the work surface. The bottom cross-members also support a half-depth shelf for under-bench storage. Bolts for the main load-bearing joints means I won't have to deal with bent or sheared fasteners if I disaasemble it in the future.
Look in the free section of your local classifieds plenty of free work benches,sadly plenty of old dudes move into nursing homes, die, and kids happy anxious to get rid of our treasures, I score a grat work bench, every time I use it I think of the guy that build it.
I still donât need itâŚ. But I sure do want it!
I like the idea but it's a little short for me.....
Well you just need a 6" lift kit and some 35" mud tires...nothing a few more tools won't fix. đ
Don't forget the Truck Nutz.
I have a 3" lift and 35's... I had 38's on it but very little suspension travel with them
I welded a bumper stand for a vise so that I can use the tail-gate flipped down as a bench, with the vise right in front of it.... way better
Justification Bias.
It is, but if you flip a drop hitch adapter upside down, you can raise it up by almost a foot.
No idea what I would use it for, still want it, could you imagine hitting your shin on this thing!!!
Think field service trucks with utility box beds full of tools. Most guys fabricate a vise mouting bracket that bolts to the bumper on these type of trucks. I just made one for my work truck last month.
Interesting, not something we see much of in the UK. Some heating engineers (aka plumbers with a gas qualification) and some white goods servicing engineers have vans fitted out with benching inside.
They're good for when you need to fix equipment that is far away from your shop. Or even just somewhat far away.
We had some home made ones at work that came out further Than the tailgate and up to that level, we had one forman who would leave it on all the time, I can't count how many times i hit it with my shins or higher up walking around the back of his truck.
painted red to hide the stains
Iâd put some truck nutz in there for a laughâŚ
Just give em a good ol squeeze
âŚ.and the mud flaps with Yosemite Sam
I support this
Those immediately came to my mind, along with the scene from _Stir Crazy_ where the smaller man in a fight gets a pair of pliers on some portion of the bigger guy's package & the big guy immediately looses his belligerence. I'm picturing a beat up, old, Ford Maverick getting equipped with a vise & suddenly ruling over a parking lot filled with F-150's & Sierra's equipped with truck nuts. F-350 addressing Maverick: "May I fetch you some wiper fluid or a new air freshener?"
but can it withstand the gentle tap of a well fisted 20 lb sledgehammer? or even a hard slung 5 lbâr?⌠looks like it could shred a tesla front bonnet though, Iâll give you that much
It's attached to the frame. It can probably withstand more than the one on your average workbench.
i sure hope so, harbor freight vises are well known for casting flaws and not being hardened enough to take serious abuse. Iâve broken my share, just tightening them down
Absolutely. HF has some great tools and some I wouldnât wish on my worst enemy.
yeah, the Central Forge/Machinery low end vises were. Those were $40-$50-$60 vises back before HF even offered anything better. What else would you expect going that cheap and trying to do service truck work with one. They were only ever for seriously light duty homeowner type use. The Doyle line is not at all known for breaking from tightening them down. They're a much better vise made from ductile iron and the ~2x-3x price premium will go a long way over the lower end line that just used cheese grade 30k cast grey iron. A couple of the Doyles are basically just rebrands/clones of similar Yosts anyways, probably from the same factory/OEM and Yosts made of the same 60k-70k DI weren't ever "well known" to break from being tightened down either.
Well right, itâs the vice thatâll fall apart before the truck even notices any action
This guy vises
I wouldn't hold anything in there to do some arc welding
True dat! But also I wouldnât arc weld anything on the average workbench.
When I worked on field tile, we had a welded up version of this and it worked quite well. I wouldn't hit anything in a vice this size with a 20 pound sledge though. It's more of the ball peen or 2-4 pound cross peen size thing.
i mentioned the sledge merely as an idea of the potential abuse these can be subjected to. my old service truck had a pretty solid bumper with very heavy old forged vice on it. came that way when I got the truck from a retired welder/pipe plumber. some yahooo slammed into the rear of the truck at a light, hitting the vice handle, vice survived, bumper which was 1/2â steel plate welded, was bent badly at the vice mount. my smaller HF vice I mounted on the other side popped right off, when the bumper bent shattering the HF vice base⌠had to beat the old vice handle back straight and buy another HF replacement. took my 20lbr to straighten it. insurance got me the bumper straightened
I guess I mean the answer is no, regardless of who is making it. It's not a practical thing to do. You put this in place when you need it and then remove it when you're done. You don't drive around with it, that's not really reasonable. And any 2 hander is gonna be more than it can handle because of where it is mounted. Sure a hitch is strong, but I'm not gonna be surprised if I beat the fuck out of this with a 20 pound sledge and something breaks. You give me a hammer that big and there aren't a lot of thing I can't destroy.
youâd be surprised how many service trucks (at least in NM) leave massive hitches, vices, and steel âballsâ hanging out driving down the road⌠more often than notâŚ
Jeez, we never would have done that just due to the shin risk. Our trucks all had tools and stuff we needed to get out often. In fact, just in my every day life, I find a vice to be handy to have in a regular pick up truck but I bolted it to a 6' long oak plank. Obviously you can't use much more than a ball peen on it, but its a functional 3rd hand which is more or less all I need
maybe a status symbol, on whos got the biggest nut crushers.
My first thought was how good that'd be at preventing tailgaters
definitely would cause some last second dirty undies for the driver in that car, when they saw itâŚ
I canât wait to clamp up some gnarly hunk of metal, and completely forget about it when I open the tailgate to get a cold one out of the cooler
If you're in position to open your tailgate and aren't aware of something in that vice, you've already had too many cold ones lol.
I need one of these. My little work bench moves when I really try to persuade something in my vise.
Sounds like itâs time to build a new workbench
Those new ductile cast iron HF 'Doyle' vises are nice! I bought this version a while back: [https://www.harborfreight.com/4-12-in-swivel-vise-with-anvil-and-pipe-jaws-57737.html](https://www.harborfreight.com/4-12-in-swivel-vise-with-anvil-and-pipe-jaws-57737.html) Really like it, use it more than the Wilton anymore.
Is Doyle a good brand?
They're supposed to be, I bought their needle nose pliers off of hearing they were a solid brand and have been pretty disappointed. They're situated right underneath Icon as the number 1 tool brand there.
I regret lots of HF buys. Trying to avoid. I do use Doyle needle nose pliers, and at least HF will indefinitely trade me for new ones when I break them, so that's nice.
Right that part of the deal is nice. Just spent 160 on 4 ratchets while I had that in my mind it's probably the last time I'll have to buy those.
I seek quality tools these days. And I'd like to become a better tool maker myself.
Far as I know, 'Doyle' is just a marketing name HF cobbled up... don't know about the other 'Doyle' stuff, but I've been very happy with the vise. Haven't abused it thus far; but definitely haven't coddled it either. It's earning it's keep Some of those new generation HF vises aren't the typical offerings of yore... if nothing else; they're absolutely worth stopping by for a look.
the hitch receivers easily bolt on benches, columns atc in a shop. Buy the hitch steps and put grinders and other small tools on them.
I've seen advertisements where I refill my forklift propane for those. They've been selling them for years. They want a small fortune for it. Glad to see China finally made an affordable version.
I have a few of the trick tools [versa-mount](https://www.trick-tools.com/search/go?view=grid&w=versa-mount) versions of such things - my workspace is small - I have the receiver part under the surface my gladiator rolling table and I can switch out tools as needed. The mounts can go on the bench receiver - or a hitch receiver. When not in use, the tools and attached mounts sit on the shelf.
as a blacksmith/metal fabricator, this is so rad.. ide chock something directly beneath the anvil portion if and while youre using it
Dammit, now I need to get a trailer hitch on an Fiat 500.
Ah yes, the shinfucker3000â˘
When you can feel the pain of a picture
My shins offer their condolences.
Canât wait till that thing rattles apart going down the freeway
Doyle rules!
Watch out for banana peels!
Ah damn, I lost the race. You won.
Lol. I was completely shocked that nobody beat me to it.
I had a metal shop make me a hitch platform and I bolt 6â jaws to the little platform. This is a pretty cool idea having it built into the vice itself. The only problem is that you canât rotate this. I always am putting g crazy stuff into my vice and sometimes need to spin it to make stuff fit.
The one I made for my service truck puts it more at tailgate level, and has a hitch Jack for extra support, otherwise it will shake your truck.
Awesome tool. Remove after use. I have scars on my shins from implements similar.
How much $?
I think I'd work on a way to keep the vise handle horizontal for driving... I can visualize it digging into a curb or whatnot turning around.
It looks like it was a happy coincidence, rather than being built for it.
https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-hitch-vise-58880.html deliberately built
GENIUS!!
I have one and it's an amazing vise, holds great and I even mounted it my work bench.
Holly shit I actually could use this. I'm tired of breaking out my little Clamp that I have to find somewhere else to Clamp it to. I like that, for real when Soldering Clamps are extremely helpful, when threading pipe they are necessary
New replacement for the tri hitch. Clamp any size ball you want.
I prefer the Trail D vise. But Iâve used these also. Solid.
Bless you. I need this
Even the best of vie is useless unless it's attached to something that won't move
Hope you're not counting on it lasting long. I hope I'm wrong for you, but their cast iron breakes soon and often.
Whatâs even better is to build a âLâ shaped piece of steel and a vice that slips into the top of it, so that its level with the tailgate and just behind the tailgate when the tailgate is down. That way you have a portable work bench and vice (I even screwed down a piece of plywood to the tailgate to make it a better work surface). I have spent many many hours rebuilding oilfield equipment in the middle of nowhere with that kind of setup.
Finally a legitimate excuse to lift yer truckkkk
Impressive
I think I'll just mount one of my vices on a hitch....
What is this? A vise for ants?
Seems silly to me, considering the car's suspension will be very annoying... Am i missing something?
You're not in the middle of a muddy field 10min drive and 4 gates away from a vice bolted to a work bench. They're not great but vehicle mounted vices are better than nothing.
Good point!
I guess that's important.
âNot to be used while vehicle is in motionâ I do quite like those for filed use.
Woah!!!!!!!
Did ya get the cut-tin torch and welder yet? Your 10 unintentional trips away from having a fully stocked service truck. Im not allowed to go in there unsupervised anymore. And if i had that id mount a sword in it for those pesky tailgaters.
Won't this rust so fast??
Is because you don't need it, just because you saved 350$ comparable to Wilton it doesn't mean that your bank account went 350$ up.
Get a pipe vice stand. Your back will tank you. My work tried to get me to get one of these for my work truck. I fabbed one to sit on the bumper. My back thanks me every time I use it.
Now how do i clamp my trailer to this?
I feel like this vise is a bit too low to actually be useful. As a pipe fitter by trade, many of our company vehicles have pipe vices mounted on the truck, so maybe having access to a truck mounted vise, Iâm biased.
Plan on showing horses or welding in the outdoors?
I do camera inspections in pipes, as well as high pressure water blasting. We need a pintel hitch for pulling equipment, the box with the camera robot/controller sits in the gated flatbed. It didn't take long for me to realize before I even started setting up the camera, take that fucking hitch off. My shins have dents.
OK, but now where do you put the receiver mounted toilet seat?
Watch your balls when you stand up
Wait til the Jeep people see this!!
I made one last year. Had the vise already. Welded a plate to a receiver and bolted the vise to it... Then made one for my nephew...Haven't broken them yet...
Oh, Doyles rule! đ¤Ł
Argh you beat me to it by 22 min. Lol
imma make one for my van! With a step to get up inside!
Better put a locking lug on that. Someone is gonna swipe that because itâs so cool lol
Need to make it compatible with pentle hitches
Oh, Doyle rules.
O Doyle rules !
Used to work at a car wash and one of the maintenance techs showed up with that on his van. I thought it was the coolest thing on the planet.
I love it but cringe at the sight of it.
I just use the hitch receiver to bend things in. Works 60 percent of the time all the time.
I love all the shin jokes . That was the 2 thing I was thinking about... I can just see it now lost of breath with a aaaa'AAA'AAA' sssssssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiitttttttt I know I forgot something
Iâve had the Wilton version a few years now. Not something I use everyday but well worth keeping around. Only complaint is weird height. Still itâs better than nothing. Really helps bridge the gap between daily driver and full on service truck.