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regexpert

Yes, but I wouldn't want to be on first chair for the part where the bass goes to high C


Qel_Hoth

Or second. Or third.


Autumn1eaves

There was a part I had in college where the bass went to a High C over the first trombone who had an Ab. The reason I got was basically the bass bone has a different tone than a tenor in that range, and the composer wanted a rounder sound than a tenor.


PM_Me_Modal_Jazz

Could be a Beethoven's 9th type situation where only the Bass is playing


tdammers

The bass trombone, like any brass instrument, has no hard upper limit to its range - it's all down to the player's chops. The standard recommendation is to avoid writing anything higher than F above the staff, but when writing for professional players, it's perfectly feasible to go a fifth beyond that (or even more), especially if it's just a short burst.


Spoticus007

my hs jazz stuff goes up to Eb above that 🥲


burgerbob22

on bass trombone? I hope not.


Spoticus007

nah it’s lead


tdammers

That's not highschool level repertoire then...


Feeling_Run_1456

It’s gonna be the same as for a tenor player. The bass trombone just allows you to have an easier time with low notes. There isn’t a limit to the top just as with any brass instrument. Just take it slow building your range. Add a half step to your chromatic scale everyday and it’ll seem easy once you get there


Delicious_Bus_674

Yes but they will never stop complaining about it


PM_Me_Modal_Jazz

Unrelated, but what a weird place for the transcriber to switch to tenor clef


texas360iv

Yes. I hear Ben Van Dijk do it often.


ConnectInitiative676

Absolutely yes. I play these notes on bass trombone all the time. Some orchestral bass trombone parts go into the high range on occasion, such as Farandole and Hary Janos. There are high A's and B's in those.


jgshanks

Farandole is a publishing error; they mixed up the first and third parts. It sure is fun watching the struggle from the principal chair...


ConnectInitiative676

Is that so? I played it without issue in my orchestra, ha!


NaptownCopper

The bass trombone would not be the limiting factor. The limitations would primarily be on the capability of the player.


wutImiss

I hate playing above Ab =p


sl1dememphis

The instrument is capable yes. The player is the main factor here. :)


blessedbelly

Yes. As a bass trombone player I try to keep all the way up to the high F in my wheelhouse all the time.


jaslo

As a lead player I have troubles going to high F! (If you mean the 6th ledger line F)


blessedbelly

I do mean that high F, and I don’t know what your skill level is but I’m a professional player and I try to keep my range consistent through to that high F. I double on bass and tenor.


SGAfishing

Yeah, but it could induce suicidal thoughts.


TromboneIsNeat

Tenor and bass trombone are the same length and therefore have the same range.


OskeeWootWoot

Same lengths, very different temperaments. The players, I mean.


SillySundae

Yes, easily. There is bass trombone repertoire that is written higher.


Finlandia1865

You seem fun at parties


JCbone6002

Yes but very unideal


George_Parr

See if you can find a recording of Charlie Vernon playing "Barnacle Bill the Sailor", particularly the ending,and let us know.


Moussorgsky1

Of course they can. Believe it or not, the majority of notes played by bass trombones in the orchestral repertoire are above the staff. Good mastery of as many octaves as possible is a must for all trombonists, regardless (within reason) of how much tubing is on the instrument.


burgerbob22

Hmm... I wouldn't agree that most of the notes are above the staff. Yes, there are plenty but most are in the staff.


Moussorgsky1

It’s something a now-retired professional bass trombonist told me. Based on his resume alone, I’m inclined to believe that statement. Especially if you consider most French rep, when they were writing for three tenors instead of two tenors and a bass.


burgerbob22

I mean, if he's French then I would believe it! But otherwise, no.


bobobobobobobo6

If you’re playing Bizet that makes sense.


SecureEssay458

It's a 3rd trombone part in most orchestral settings, not specifically written for a bass 'bone. Most 3rd parts are written in the staff, but many go well above that. Get used to it.


Tempest1897

Sure. Shouldn’t too much of a problem. It will sound different than a Tenor C but easily done.


BrassTacks_

Absolutely, there's no limit to how high you can play as long as your lips can handle it


grecotrombone

Currently playing the bass part for a videogame orchestra. On one piece I'm playing mostly between G1 and C3. At the end of it, I'm playing B4 and C5. 🤣🤣🤣 It's both lovely and miserable, as it's the last piece of the concert. Its an arrangement of Raphael's theme from Baldur's Gate 3. It's fun. It's high. It's fun. 🤣🤣


albauer2

Yes. That high C is about the top of the useable range, but yes you should be able to play all of that.


tbonescott1974

Yep, but it isn't ideal and takes some work. You can get more face into the larger mouthpiece so your muscles aren't as physically hindered. However, notes in the upper register take some really fast air.


HopeIsDope1800

I can on bass but I main tenor so that's probably why


BandGirl1232

Sadly yes. It huts tho!


seanbinpa

Absolutely, but will depend on your mouthpiece and facial muscles. I would swap out mouthpieces depending on the tune. Shallower cup if it went up a little higher or deeper cup for lower stuff. Totally unnecessary to change the score from bass clef to tenor clef for just a couple of bars.


shakezilla86

Tuba regularly does


burgerbob22

Maybe in solo rep, not a lot of high Cs generally


rainbowkey

Unusually high but not impossible. But why isn't a tenor trombone or French horn playing this, especially since it is a solo? Also, write the solo either all in tenor clef or all in bass clef.


treble-n-bass

Sure, they can hit those notes (depending on the player’s chops), but it’s marked “Solo” at bar 9. I’d put that Solo in another trombone part, 1st or 2nd, because it will be quite difficult, if not impossible, for a bass trombonist to play that passage effectively and cut through… even for a seasoned professional. You're not likely to ever see anything higher than a 3rd ledger line “G” written for bass bone, definitely not a high "C." (EDITED for my stupid grammar and inability to write clearly)


pixelator9000

Wh tis this from?


Informal_Winter6170

Looks like "The dance of Yao"


pixelator9000

Thank you!


Informal_Winter6170

Dance of Yao, nostalgic


jaslo

What?! Tenor clef in the bass trombone part? Oh no!


SecureEssay458

The instrument is capable. Is the player?


hotbiscut2

Yeah just takes lots of effort. Takes like months of range training. When I first came up upon problems with my range not being high enough I just thought it would come to me. But to my surprise that never happened of course. I could never reach a Bb4 on my tenor trombone and would chop out or squeak on anything that was higher than a F4. But what I did to fix this was this one warm up exercise that I would do. It involved doing long tones from the middle of my range to the very bottom of my range. So it would be like F3 all the way to B2, Bb all the way to F2 and so on. Then after you do this just do glisses on the slide starting from 1st position to 6th going up ranges after each gliss until you reach your top range. This exercise helped expand my range from barely reaching Bb4 to easily hitting F5 in about 3 months time. Now I’ve been playing trombone for about 5 years from 6th grade middle school to right now in the end of my sophomore year. So trust me or not, I’m no professional, but I will say this advice helped me greatly expand my range.


OffWeGoIntoTheWildBY

i've seen a tuba hit it in a hebron HS marching band show (I think), so you got this!


low_mint

In high register bass trombone have the same range as tenor.


Not-me345

Easily


JCbone6002

Yes but very unideal


Scribe_Data

If you flip it upside down.