I was thinking how, I guess what I consider negative angles, allow for good positioning, because there were a couple times I didn't know what the carrier was doing, but they clearly did know what they were about to do.
If you're going to attempt some shit like that, it's important to remember that the fifth wheel can allow the trailer to move side to side at that angle, be very smooth, very slow, and no hard braking. The higher stuff is stacked, and the heavier that stuff is, the more dangerous it becomes. With a full floor load, like with most intermodal containers, you don't even want to be near 90° if it can be avoided.
Is it the one where if you're jackknifed and driving forward, you're actually moving the trailer back a bit? (Inverse if you're jackknifed and moving backwards you're actually pulling the trailer out a bit)
Did the tightest back yesterday ive done at a loves had to squeeze my passenger side past another truck poking out of the mechanic shop at an angle just missing the other guys mirror that parked next by an inch
I’ve woken up a few times and as I stumble out of my cab in morning to take a piss, I’ve been dumbfounded that someone was able to park next to me in the night. Every single time that’s happened, I’ve always wanted to talk to the driver and ask where they got that skill level.
Just the other day in Ogden, UT I made sure to walk up and give the driver and thumbs up and told him how impressive he looked. He essentially did a 90 degree in a super tight lot, driver side back. But at such a sharp angle and such a tight lot…fucking impressive. And even more? He got out and actually walked around. He had the skills and STILL said “fuck that, I need eyes on”. I wish I saw more of that in the wild.
Pretty easy if you say f'the mail box and screw their yard. Just hit shit until it's in there and then act like you don't speak English if the customer complains.
Where do you think he's damaged the driveway?
The truck is going very slow, it'll only drive over the driveway once (or a handful of times at most), he hardly touched the grass, and moving trucks usually don't weigh that much.
Concrete semi driver here, got my toes dipped into both pools.
I doubt the weight is a huge factor, he’s not shredding it too much, and he won’t be there every day.
Biggest factor is how much they paid the contractors to pour it. I always hear “oh no that’s way too much money” followed a few years later by “why is it already cracking?” If it’s quality concrete, all the mixer’s slumps were in spec and the crew did their job in a timely manner in moderate weather, it’ll be completely fine!
I’ll give my 1/2 cent. I have a truck deliver a pallet in my driveway like this. No issues but my driveway was done right. I’ll give him credit because he called first and made sure it was fine to back in because he didn’t want to damage my driveway
It's only a danger during spring thaw or wet season depending on where you live. He can't even touch 50 gross unless someone is moving their pet rocks.
Okay maybe 60.... either way, driveway is alright.
The driveway is most likely okay. The only thing I would've done differently is to put a sheet of decking down on the edge of the driveway where he goes into the grass.
He's probably around 36k empty and when cubed out he'd be lucky to hit 70k.
Good point.
The driver did this backing while less-loaded for pickup.
Driving out loaded is gonna dig a rut, but it'll be 2240 on a duty-night, and orders will have been given 3 days prior with a stipulation to arrive in 2.745 days, with a schedule for gate duty in 4 days.
God Bless the DoD personnel; because no one else will.
Are you on base, or in a normal neighborhood? Just curious. We deal with on base moves a lot and it's tragic yet hilarious what we see and what the base directly allows us to do as carriers.
>what the base directly allows us to do as carriers.
I'm no longer final mile LTL, but shhhhhhhhh.
Them boys deserve their motorcycles, furniture, hot tubs and nostalgia arcade games (at a premium delivery price.) Don't ruin the money for those drivers delivering such.
Not my experience and I'm not even going to lie to you and say I understand what you said. We got paid really, really good to go on base to deliver shit to soldiers. So much so the AFB security in Del Rio, TX knew me on a first name basis.
Yo, this is fucked. Why even the need to get that trailer on the driveway lol. Park that bitch in the street and wheel stuff out an extra 40 feet. No fucked driveway/curb/grass etc. this way
Fu k that. After your 50th trip to the truck you'd wish it was as close as possible. Some of these guys are paid by weight not hourly, so it's load-n-go asap. He could also be dropping the trailer for customer to load.
As a food service driver, I completely agree. Always set up to make the shortest runs possible because the number of times you're doing it can only be so low.
Did that for a few years. 350lbs down a ramp on 2 wheels. Some night drops I'd shoot the ramp into the restaurant's doorway. I don't see many guys still using ramps. More liftgates and building stacks on the ground
Idk about "too slow". Those big Maxon gates can get 4 pallets on the ground fast. You can build some heavy or sketchy stacks when there's no ramp. Depends how your load is picked & loaded and what type of place you're peddling
I can unload a pallet faster than someone can bring 1 of them down and over to where they want to start unloading it. Only way liftgate would be quicker is if the places I dropped wanted pallet drops. It would however save my knees from the torture I put them through running up and down that ramp but I ain't got time for all that. Just drop the ramp in their back door and get that shit done quick.
Full pallet of bottled water 24pks has entered the chat.
Knees: Bruh!
I hear ya about getting it done. Component pay still? Miles+cases+stops? Sigma used to pay on the dispatched weight. Drivers be like 84k? Extra $
I've mastered waters. Can run in about 10 a stack.
My knees are constantly screaming. I just drink to shut them up. 😂
Yeah. I get miles+cases+stops. Also get a daily pay for just showing up. I pull 6 figures but I'm definitely in the minority on that one.
Unless there's some gravy runs that pay well without killing yourself, plan on moving to a different job after 8-10yrs. The upside of foodservice is the driving experience you get stuffing trailers in small places and crazy parking lots. The right companies should recognize this especially with a road test. 1yr of complex multi-stops = 6-8 yrs OTR
This. Furniture/appliance dollies and hand carts are a thing. But I'm going to assume the people pulling this stunt are rewarded for these extremely high risk/low reward choices by their superiors and would consider using common sense faggy, or something.
Local Delivery drivers are the kings of the roads, who else can perfectly execute a U-turn/parallel park maneuver in a box truck or extra long delivery van?
To further elaborate on this, the owner op or agent is 100% responsible for damage done to the property. They more than likely cracked the driveway just backing in there. Second, you probably haven't seen this van line on the road, so I can safely say they are not a reputable moving company. Now I know everybody's heard of swift and in freight it can be a bad thing but in household goods it's a bad thing. I also see they are based out of Florida which has the loosest moving regulations in the country. This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
I have never been a mover, but common sense tells me to park in the street and carry the stuff to the truck. I drive LTL and I wish I had $10 for every driver that has asked me, "Do you have to unload your truck?" Sometimes you have to do some work. Just do it and get on the road.
Ty, I feel like I'm eating crazy pills in this thread. Like you park curbside, if it's more work because it's a longer carry, you get more guys. You can zillow any house before you get to it.
50/50 on that. If your driveway is getting cracked by this lightweight shit, start getting better driveways poured. Some of these new residential driveways in texas (mostly the upper class with competent contractors and not cheap ass mcmansions) are being built to damn near commercial standards. I crossed one no less than 10 times last week grossing 90K and the fucker would not crack. The owner was chill, too, and signed the waiver beforehand.
Also, if the owner approves and signs off after being explicitly told about the risks of the maneuver, it's not the driver's problem after that. Only a dumbass would do things that might incur some level of damage without waivers.
Sounds to me like you're just jelly without knowing the full set of circumstances.
I'm a motherfucking actual Mover. This is 100% a no go any where in any state by any actual movers and not some fly by night operation. I didn't even get into this guy driving over the grass, and I've been hit for grass backing into a cul-de-sac. This isn't how it's done and it's insane to me some steering wheel holders are trying to tell me what's right and wrong when I've been moving furniture my entire adult life.
I'm an actual local/regional driver, probably backed more miles on driveway than you've clocked going forwards your entire career. This is 100% "what the customer signs off on the customer gets" in every state that i've worked. Ol boy says, "Just back down the driveway." Guess where my big ass truck is going?
Just because ya'll lack the skill to do it, doesn't mean it's an industry wide no go, then again, i've seen you piss juggers struggle with highway off ramps, a tight back is probably a no go🤣.
What so you're saying they need to shell out for a local mover, then go and pay for a long haul van line too? Then back to local at "delivery?" Seems elaborate and expensive to me for a move.
But every time I've had to move we paid for a penske or similar and did it ourselves. Was always way too expensive to have it moved by a company.
Yes moving is expensive. You are hiring an entire team of people to move your shit AND not break it in the process and that's not cheap. Good movers aren't cheap and cheap movers aren't good. I have 315 pads on my trailer at 12 bucks a pop not counting bands and walk boards and straps which aren't cheap either. It cot about 350 bucks for a good dolly and I have 5. I hire help from Facebook groups that have been around for a long time and all most all of them have back ground checks from local agents. Each guy is usually 200 to 350 a day. The shit is not cheap.
Ty, also the math on this stunt doesn't add up. You can get an extra Mover for let's say 250 average cost. How much do you think that stretch of drive way cost? Way more than say 3 extra guys which the formula for figuring out labor would probably only call for 1 extra guy 2 at most.
Oh if it was gravel I would 100% do it and have. Some guys telling me right now he has backed down more driveway than I've driven forward and ya know what he's a bad mover.
Finally Someone who knows, all it takes, is a CYA agreement, i always put my trailer where the customer requests, they are always right, and being a dumb truckdriver, I will gladly pass responsability to shipper or reciever,
I work with people like this and can hear them say "I don't wanna be here all day (spending the time carting things up the driveway that was spent fucking off with this stunt)" in my head after someone recommends not doing thus.
Used to have to do this with 48 ft dump trailers and 53 ft junk car haulers.
Screw it. It's nice knowing you've got skills that most ppl can't fathom but screw it. Too much annoyance.
I'm currently a mover (moving on to a different job in 3 days.) but Yea we do this. All the fucking time.
I do local only but our semi in the fleet is a sleeper. So I do this shit almost every damn day.
It's better than parking on the road and long carrying everything because generally the area I live in, if they can afford movers and require a semi, it's super big heavy old and fragile bullshit. The shorter distance between the front door and the trailer the better.
And yes we do have to unload after. And load. And climb all over shit because someone forgot about a set of keys that wasn't supposed to be packed so now you gotta find what box your team put the damn keys in.
But hey you get tips. Unless they're rich.
I can do this with rocky mountain doubles that have bald tires uphill in 3 feet of snow with bald drives on a single axle automatic 3 million mile ups day cab in pitch black darkness with no power steering. /s for the turtles in the sub.
I did household goods for years. I’d back into the driveway as long as it wasn’t concrete. He’s looking for a claim. They aren’t made to support the weight of a tractor trailer
Ex Allied Van Lines driver from the 90’s… I’ve put my truck in more funky places, been down roads no sane driver would normally go. Yeah, load and unload that in a day. It was a hard job but I made great money and I’d put my backing skills up against anyone.
A lot of people here are saying "oh man, the driveway is totaled" which leads me to believe a lot of you jug pissers have never seen or been near a well poured driveway.
I was wondering what kinda shoddy ass driveways these guys have been on.
I had a concrete pad at the end my asphalt driveway and you know what sat on that every weekend for years? A peterbilt with a 53’ trailer. Usually empty but sometimes loaded.
Can confirm that it’ll tear up asphalt in the summer but that pad doesnt have a crack in it.
As a previous landscaper, irrigation tech now cdl, I say this guy said fuck the sprinklers. And he did just that. If there are sprinklers in that particular area on earth.
I regularly do this with a 53, buuuut...... I drive a European daycab, have cameras and extra mirrors all around, don't have sideskirts or anything that could be broken/in the way when I am jackknifing on purpose, I have a steer axle at the rear, and I usually go to areas where I can follow the trail of broken lampposts and treebranches to see how my coworkers did it.
Doing this in a longnose seems like hell.
Seems like a normal drivers side back to me, small corrections and taking your time. Video was sped up so it looks fast. Also there's one thing that driver has that no other otr driver has, multiple people to help him back. I've see tighter spots at a pilot in Louisiana. Still give props to the driver for a safe back, although he still should've gotten out an taken a look at least once. Help is always great but getting a look yourself is always better.
This is not the typical way these guys do it. The big name movers higher crews to pick the stuff up from customer while driver waits at truck stop or parking lot. Then they will do the same at delivery. This comes right from an Allied drivers mouth. This is also why when you see all those super sleeper trucks they are usually pulling a moving trailer.
I drive for a moving company too. I've done a couple shuttles but normally i can get to right outside the customers house. Do some people really do exclusively shuttles? That sounds awful but makes the giant ass sleepers i see occasionally make a lot more sense.
Sometimes there's no choice but to shuttle stuff in smaller trucks, obviously, but it seems like many times it would be cheaper to have an account with a company like Penske and just rent a day cab for the final mile(s).
This guy was good. I could do that, but it might take me a few tries to get the initial angle perfect. Doing that in a day cab is much easier, and at the end of the day there's some places that the sleepers, especially long ones, just won't go.
Kind of makes me curious why you never see the big van moving companies using pup doubles. Might be a little more work to load, but you can break the set and put those trailers in a lot of places that you simply can't put a long trailer, such as shorter driveways in neighborhoods with driveways that are too close to park a trailer between them.
It might’ve taken that dude multiple tries to get the angle just right too, we just can’t tell from the video. And I agree, the right angle is *everything.* Wherever you’re backing, the right setup can make it sooo much easier. Sometimes it’s better to start over right from the beginning than it is to try backing from a bad setup.
I’ve been doing in-home estimates for a long-distance mover for 30 years. Never driven a TT in my life. The HARDEST part of my job is trying to figure out if you guys can get your 53’s into a neighborhood, street, apartment complex, or driveway. Shuttle truck service adds $1,500 to $2,000 to a move. I could tell a shipper “no way” and my competitor tells him “no problem” and lose the job. Or the shipper will say “a TT moved me in here”. What I’ve learned is it depends on the balls on the driver, and his rig. My worst nightmare is when a rookie driver or one with a freaking RV for a tractor calls for a shuttle on move day.
We do this all the time delivering windows and trim for housing developments. The jackknife backup maneuver is crucial. Typically, we have trucks with Bartletts, so you can tilt the trailer downward to assist sliding the packages to the back.
Granted, we're not usually in sleepers though and it's typically 48s, not 53s.
Bravo!! Took me 2 hours to back my 40 foot 5th wheel down the driveway from the road, (maybe 150 yards) then cut it 90 degrees into it's spot next to a rock wall. I've been wondering who to hire to get it back out when I move it out. Lol not looking forward to it. That guy made it look easy.
Main reason I want to create a driveway with a in and out. Need to figure out the math of what sort of driveway can handle that weight and with a wide enough entry and exit to not tear anything up. I want to be lazy when parking at home.
There have to be formulas available somewhere. Of course it depends on how much room you have in front of you. But there are too many places where you have juuuuust enough room for them all to just be guessing.
Of course you could just back in and pull out and see where your tires are, then add a few feet for some wiggle room
I used to do international moves with 40' containers. I very rarely parked in the driveway. Usually I parked on the street and then a cube van backed up behind me and a plate connected the two units. The cube van had a side door and a ramp. The moving team would cardboard everything in the house before moving it into the container.
Yup all the time i have brought my trailer into places that seem impossible I love the challenge suburbs are usually really easy but once you get to L.A NYC SF and other major metro that's where it's hard everywhere else it's pretty easy I loved the challenge though.
We get a bollocking if we put 2.6ton moffett and a 2ton pack of plasterboard on a drive without getting the customer to sign a permission slip.
Edit-added some context
From my experience delivering 16ft wide swimming pool shells to homeowners all across the country with a 290 inch wheelbase 289 and a 53ft spread axel step deck.. yes this happened and yes it's a bitch 🤙
I move quite a bit with my work and am always concerned about the movers having space for their trucks/trailers. I am impressed every time by how well they can maneuver in crazy spaces. You always know who is running the crew, the one driving the cab. Total respect to movers.
\*Food Service drivers\*
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I'm not jealous of movers, car haulers, and P&D
When I did fuel you couldn't deliver some places during day time cause you had to hang in a street or the tanks were blocked
That driver is royalty and I have never met one at a moving company with those skills.
Take about 10 hours for three average experienced movers to unload a packed 53 footer. Some people have way too much shit.
We do this daily, shipping cars, but luckily, we can drive the vehicles on and off.
Many of our drivers are ex-movers who realized it's easier to drive cars on than carry a household's worth of items.
Working food service will teach you real fast how to maneuver your sleeper with a 53’. I can’t even begin to count the number of time I have had people screaming at me “stop you’re going to hit the gas pump or my car”. Really bc I’m sure I do this every week 😂 thread that needle baby
This is a lot like some of the dollar store accounts: Namely Dollar Tree and Family Dollar-
Though there are still a handful of Dollar General stores that have some shitty locations.
Then you have the locations that have you utilize the front parking area to prep yourself for a blindside maneuver, as you strive to dodge the cars parked in the area.
Kenworths can go further past a 90 degree angle due to shorter fairings on the back vs a freightliner who has higher turn radius but the fairings on the back will touch at like 90-95 degrees
It’s not common to see kenworth with bad fairings. They usually lose their side skirts which are hard plastic unlike rubber parts other trucks use
I just learned two different maneuvers from watching this professional
I was thinking how, I guess what I consider negative angles, allow for good positioning, because there were a couple times I didn't know what the carrier was doing, but they clearly did know what they were about to do.
FYI. That negative angle (angle between 90 degrees and trailer the touching cab) is called dip swing clearance.
If you're going to attempt some shit like that, it's important to remember that the fifth wheel can allow the trailer to move side to side at that angle, be very smooth, very slow, and no hard braking. The higher stuff is stacked, and the heavier that stuff is, the more dangerous it becomes. With a full floor load, like with most intermodal containers, you don't even want to be near 90° if it can be avoided.
Is it the one where if you're jackknifed and driving forward, you're actually moving the trailer back a bit? (Inverse if you're jackknifed and moving backwards you're actually pulling the trailer out a bit)
I'm not Lieutenant Butt Naked, but I'd say that is one of the moments for me.
That's GENERAL Butt Naked.
Yea like the way he turned in making the angle more acute before swinging back out to straighten out.
Average parking spot at loves at 1 AM
Did the tightest back yesterday ive done at a loves had to squeeze my passenger side past another truck poking out of the mechanic shop at an angle just missing the other guys mirror that parked next by an inch
I’ve woken up a few times and as I stumble out of my cab in morning to take a piss, I’ve been dumbfounded that someone was able to park next to me in the night. Every single time that’s happened, I’ve always wanted to talk to the driver and ask where they got that skill level.
Same here I've seen a guy do a blind side into a tighter spot with a split axle flatbed at a loves in jasper alabama
Just the other day in Ogden, UT I made sure to walk up and give the driver and thumbs up and told him how impressive he looked. He essentially did a 90 degree in a super tight lot, driver side back. But at such a sharp angle and such a tight lot…fucking impressive. And even more? He got out and actually walked around. He had the skills and STILL said “fuck that, I need eyes on”. I wish I saw more of that in the wild.
I have an unnatural hatred of that Loves.
It's so unnecessarily tight so it's not a unnatural hatred I've only stopped there twice and I already don't like it
At 4pm in the afternoon
not for me, i'm in a box truck. those spots at 1 am are my favorites.
During a thunderstorm too
Loves is actually pretty reasonable in my experience. This is more like a standard Pilot.
Looks like a regular day at Dollar General 😂
Right!! I feel bad for this drivers.
Don't feel bad. We do this because we hate dealing with regular freight, and our customers are happy to see us.
Also, it pays more than OTR. And unloading is like a gym you get paid to go to.
Pretty easy if you say f'the mail box and screw their yard. Just hit shit until it's in there and then act like you don't speak English if the customer complains.
Like a 90% chance they did thousands in damage to the driveway might as well total that place.
Where do you think he's damaged the driveway? The truck is going very slow, it'll only drive over the driveway once (or a handful of times at most), he hardly touched the grass, and moving trucks usually don't weigh that much.
Concrete semi driver here, got my toes dipped into both pools. I doubt the weight is a huge factor, he’s not shredding it too much, and he won’t be there every day. Biggest factor is how much they paid the contractors to pour it. I always hear “oh no that’s way too much money” followed a few years later by “why is it already cracking?” If it’s quality concrete, all the mixer’s slumps were in spec and the crew did their job in a timely manner in moderate weather, it’ll be completely fine!
I’ll give my 1/2 cent. I have a truck deliver a pallet in my driveway like this. No issues but my driveway was done right. I’ll give him credit because he called first and made sure it was fine to back in because he didn’t want to damage my driveway
Hope theyre moving OUT, cuz that driveway is fucked
It's only a danger during spring thaw or wet season depending on where you live. He can't even touch 50 gross unless someone is moving their pet rocks. Okay maybe 60.... either way, driveway is alright.
Heaviest I've ever been in a moving van was 69,500. My van, belly boxes and sleeper were full.
Unless it's 80°F+ and it's an asphalt driveway.
Well that's just common sense though.
The driveway is most likely okay. The only thing I would've done differently is to put a sheet of decking down on the edge of the driveway where he goes into the grass. He's probably around 36k empty and when cubed out he'd be lucky to hit 70k.
Good point. The driver did this backing while less-loaded for pickup. Driving out loaded is gonna dig a rut, but it'll be 2240 on a duty-night, and orders will have been given 3 days prior with a stipulation to arrive in 2.745 days, with a schedule for gate duty in 4 days. God Bless the DoD personnel; because no one else will.
Yep I see it all the time in my neighborhood due to military moves
Are you on base, or in a normal neighborhood? Just curious. We deal with on base moves a lot and it's tragic yet hilarious what we see and what the base directly allows us to do as carriers.
>what the base directly allows us to do as carriers. I'm no longer final mile LTL, but shhhhhhhhh. Them boys deserve their motorcycles, furniture, hot tubs and nostalgia arcade games (at a premium delivery price.) Don't ruin the money for those drivers delivering such.
DoD doesn't mind if they send a m/c with 8 gallons of fuel in it; it's basically feeding the poor worker who has to deal with it.
Not my experience and I'm not even going to lie to you and say I understand what you said. We got paid really, really good to go on base to deliver shit to soldiers. So much so the AFB security in Del Rio, TX knew me on a first name basis.
just a normal neighborhood, theres 4 military bases around so its a regular thing
Yo, this is fucked. Why even the need to get that trailer on the driveway lol. Park that bitch in the street and wheel stuff out an extra 40 feet. No fucked driveway/curb/grass etc. this way
Fu k that. After your 50th trip to the truck you'd wish it was as close as possible. Some of these guys are paid by weight not hourly, so it's load-n-go asap. He could also be dropping the trailer for customer to load.
As a food service driver, I completely agree. Always set up to make the shortest runs possible because the number of times you're doing it can only be so low.
Did that for a few years. 350lbs down a ramp on 2 wheels. Some night drops I'd shoot the ramp into the restaurant's doorway. I don't see many guys still using ramps. More liftgates and building stacks on the ground
Still using ramps on my end. Got a full 53ft most nights and a lift gate would just be way too slow.
Idk about "too slow". Those big Maxon gates can get 4 pallets on the ground fast. You can build some heavy or sketchy stacks when there's no ramp. Depends how your load is picked & loaded and what type of place you're peddling
I can unload a pallet faster than someone can bring 1 of them down and over to where they want to start unloading it. Only way liftgate would be quicker is if the places I dropped wanted pallet drops. It would however save my knees from the torture I put them through running up and down that ramp but I ain't got time for all that. Just drop the ramp in their back door and get that shit done quick.
Full pallet of bottled water 24pks has entered the chat. Knees: Bruh! I hear ya about getting it done. Component pay still? Miles+cases+stops? Sigma used to pay on the dispatched weight. Drivers be like 84k? Extra $
I've mastered waters. Can run in about 10 a stack. My knees are constantly screaming. I just drink to shut them up. 😂 Yeah. I get miles+cases+stops. Also get a daily pay for just showing up. I pull 6 figures but I'm definitely in the minority on that one.
Unless there's some gravy runs that pay well without killing yourself, plan on moving to a different job after 8-10yrs. The upside of foodservice is the driving experience you get stuffing trailers in small places and crazy parking lots. The right companies should recognize this especially with a road test. 1yr of complex multi-stops = 6-8 yrs OTR
nah they would do it from the street, distance carry equals more charges- more money for the driver.
This. Furniture/appliance dollies and hand carts are a thing. But I'm going to assume the people pulling this stunt are rewarded for these extremely high risk/low reward choices by their superiors and would consider using common sense faggy, or something.
Honestly facts Being smart is kinda gay to a lot of people lmao and I get it a lot
yeah that's what i was thinking too
Same
Yup I would do it thay way I've seen some co-workers fuckup driveways that way
Yeah dude but then they won’t have a sick video of them backing it in
Furniture movers ARE the kings of the road.
Local Delivery drivers are the kings of the roads, who else can perfectly execute a U-turn/parallel park maneuver in a box truck or extra long delivery van?
I move hhg and you should never do this. This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
To further elaborate on this, the owner op or agent is 100% responsible for damage done to the property. They more than likely cracked the driveway just backing in there. Second, you probably haven't seen this van line on the road, so I can safely say they are not a reputable moving company. Now I know everybody's heard of swift and in freight it can be a bad thing but in household goods it's a bad thing. I also see they are based out of Florida which has the loosest moving regulations in the country. This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
Instead of just bashing this driver, please enlighten us on how you are supposed to make this move
You don't make this move, you nut the fuck up take some money from your line haul and get some extra guys for the LONG CARRY.
I have never been a mover, but common sense tells me to park in the street and carry the stuff to the truck. I drive LTL and I wish I had $10 for every driver that has asked me, "Do you have to unload your truck?" Sometimes you have to do some work. Just do it and get on the road.
Ty, I feel like I'm eating crazy pills in this thread. Like you park curbside, if it's more work because it's a longer carry, you get more guys. You can zillow any house before you get to it.
Park in the street. It’s made to support the weight. Never put a truck in the driveway. It isn’t meant to support the weight.
50/50 on that. If your driveway is getting cracked by this lightweight shit, start getting better driveways poured. Some of these new residential driveways in texas (mostly the upper class with competent contractors and not cheap ass mcmansions) are being built to damn near commercial standards. I crossed one no less than 10 times last week grossing 90K and the fucker would not crack. The owner was chill, too, and signed the waiver beforehand. Also, if the owner approves and signs off after being explicitly told about the risks of the maneuver, it's not the driver's problem after that. Only a dumbass would do things that might incur some level of damage without waivers. Sounds to me like you're just jelly without knowing the full set of circumstances.
I'm a motherfucking actual Mover. This is 100% a no go any where in any state by any actual movers and not some fly by night operation. I didn't even get into this guy driving over the grass, and I've been hit for grass backing into a cul-de-sac. This isn't how it's done and it's insane to me some steering wheel holders are trying to tell me what's right and wrong when I've been moving furniture my entire adult life.
I'm an actual local/regional driver, probably backed more miles on driveway than you've clocked going forwards your entire career. This is 100% "what the customer signs off on the customer gets" in every state that i've worked. Ol boy says, "Just back down the driveway." Guess where my big ass truck is going? Just because ya'll lack the skill to do it, doesn't mean it's an industry wide no go, then again, i've seen you piss juggers struggle with highway off ramps, a tight back is probably a no go🤣.
Chill out dude
This dude reminds me of the Navy Seal copypasta LMAO
What so you're saying they need to shell out for a local mover, then go and pay for a long haul van line too? Then back to local at "delivery?" Seems elaborate and expensive to me for a move. But every time I've had to move we paid for a penske or similar and did it ourselves. Was always way too expensive to have it moved by a company.
Yes moving is expensive. You are hiring an entire team of people to move your shit AND not break it in the process and that's not cheap. Good movers aren't cheap and cheap movers aren't good. I have 315 pads on my trailer at 12 bucks a pop not counting bands and walk boards and straps which aren't cheap either. It cot about 350 bucks for a good dolly and I have 5. I hire help from Facebook groups that have been around for a long time and all most all of them have back ground checks from local agents. Each guy is usually 200 to 350 a day. The shit is not cheap.
You’re being paid to not tear up their house and driveway too
Ty, also the math on this stunt doesn't add up. You can get an extra Mover for let's say 250 average cost. How much do you think that stretch of drive way cost? Way more than say 3 extra guys which the formula for figuring out labor would probably only call for 1 extra guy 2 at most.
I’d think about a gravel driveway but not a concrete driveway. The liability is too much. You’re absolutely right
Oh if it was gravel I would 100% do it and have. Some guys telling me right now he has backed down more driveway than I've driven forward and ya know what he's a bad mover.
350 damn bro thats way to much I never did more then 200 for the day or 150+gas either way never over 200
You’re absolutely right.
Finally Someone who knows, all it takes, is a CYA agreement, i always put my trailer where the customer requests, they are always right, and being a dumb truckdriver, I will gladly pass responsability to shipper or reciever,
Really? Out of everything you've ever seen in your life, this is the dumbest? Sounds like you're just hating at this point.. calm your ass down a bit.
It is dumb! He’s going to damage that concrete driveway
I work with people like this and can hear them say "I don't wanna be here all day (spending the time carting things up the driveway that was spent fucking off with this stunt)" in my head after someone recommends not doing thus.
Bed bug owner operators that are good are the top money makers.
I'd hit that blind side, first try... in my Volvo daycab! 😂
Used to have to do this with 48 ft dump trailers and 53 ft junk car haulers. Screw it. It's nice knowing you've got skills that most ppl can't fathom but screw it. Too much annoyance.
I'm currently a mover (moving on to a different job in 3 days.) but Yea we do this. All the fucking time. I do local only but our semi in the fleet is a sleeper. So I do this shit almost every damn day. It's better than parking on the road and long carrying everything because generally the area I live in, if they can afford movers and require a semi, it's super big heavy old and fragile bullshit. The shorter distance between the front door and the trailer the better. And yes we do have to unload after. And load. And climb all over shit because someone forgot about a set of keys that wasn't supposed to be packed so now you gotta find what box your team put the damn keys in. But hey you get tips. Unless they're rich.
No long carry!? Bro I loved long carry thats extra$$$
Not when you're paid hourly and your company gets that extra $$$. You just get extra work.
I can do this with rocky mountain doubles that have bald tires uphill in 3 feet of snow with bald drives on a single axle automatic 3 million mile ups day cab in pitch black darkness with no power steering. /s for the turtles in the sub.
I do this almost every day with a 53 and a sleeper. I park in my driveway and it's a tight fit
I make the same number of adjustments backing the U-Haul box van into the driveway
Why the awful music tho
This isn't the win you think it is.
Not with a 53', but I'm in residential driveways almost every day with 32' and 40' trailers...
With how much weight total?
Depends who's asking...80k.
I was just asking because for some reason silly me thought HHG might be lighter freight
HHG is usually much lighter, that's why you see so many of them with the 144+" sleepers. I do pool water deliveries in the summer...
I did household goods for years. I’d back into the driveway as long as it wasn’t concrete. He’s looking for a claim. They aren’t made to support the weight of a tractor trailer
A lot of you have never worked local food service and it shows
I personally would never put that kind of weight on a normal residential concrete driveway.... Unless I wanted to do that move for free.
Ex Allied Van Lines driver from the 90’s… I’ve put my truck in more funky places, been down roads no sane driver would normally go. Yeah, load and unload that in a day. It was a hard job but I made great money and I’d put my backing skills up against anyone.
A lot of people here are saying "oh man, the driveway is totaled" which leads me to believe a lot of you jug pissers have never seen or been near a well poured driveway.
I was wondering what kinda shoddy ass driveways these guys have been on. I had a concrete pad at the end my asphalt driveway and you know what sat on that every weekend for years? A peterbilt with a 53’ trailer. Usually empty but sometimes loaded. Can confirm that it’ll tear up asphalt in the summer but that pad doesnt have a crack in it.
At least the cartoon women on the side are “stressed”. This checks out.
Dude made that look easy as hell.
As a previous landscaper, irrigation tech now cdl, I say this guy said fuck the sprinklers. And he did just that. If there are sprinklers in that particular area on earth.
I regularly do this with a 53, buuuut...... I drive a European daycab, have cameras and extra mirrors all around, don't have sideskirts or anything that could be broken/in the way when I am jackknifing on purpose, I have a steer axle at the rear, and I usually go to areas where I can follow the trail of broken lampposts and treebranches to see how my coworkers did it. Doing this in a longnose seems like hell.
As a former mover, it’s possible but doesn’t happen all the time. A lot of times low branches effect where you can park in neighborhoods
That’s a professional!!
No, those tire ruts were in your lawn before.
Seems like a normal drivers side back to me, small corrections and taking your time. Video was sped up so it looks fast. Also there's one thing that driver has that no other otr driver has, multiple people to help him back. I've see tighter spots at a pilot in Louisiana. Still give props to the driver for a safe back, although he still should've gotten out an taken a look at least once. Help is always great but getting a look yourself is always better.
This is not the typical way these guys do it. The big name movers higher crews to pick the stuff up from customer while driver waits at truck stop or parking lot. Then they will do the same at delivery. This comes right from an Allied drivers mouth. This is also why when you see all those super sleeper trucks they are usually pulling a moving trailer.
I drive for a moving company too. I've done a couple shuttles but normally i can get to right outside the customers house. Do some people really do exclusively shuttles? That sounds awful but makes the giant ass sleepers i see occasionally make a lot more sense.
Sometimes there's no choice but to shuttle stuff in smaller trucks, obviously, but it seems like many times it would be cheaper to have an account with a company like Penske and just rent a day cab for the final mile(s). This guy was good. I could do that, but it might take me a few tries to get the initial angle perfect. Doing that in a day cab is much easier, and at the end of the day there's some places that the sleepers, especially long ones, just won't go. Kind of makes me curious why you never see the big van moving companies using pup doubles. Might be a little more work to load, but you can break the set and put those trailers in a lot of places that you simply can't put a long trailer, such as shorter driveways in neighborhoods with driveways that are too close to park a trailer between them.
It might’ve taken that dude multiple tries to get the angle just right too, we just can’t tell from the video. And I agree, the right angle is *everything.* Wherever you’re backing, the right setup can make it sooo much easier. Sometimes it’s better to start over right from the beginning than it is to try backing from a bad setup.
More like. Watch me crack this driveway that wasn't built thick enough for a semi.
Park the big truck at parking lot that it will fit in and use a small box truck to shuttle loads
I’ve been doing in-home estimates for a long-distance mover for 30 years. Never driven a TT in my life. The HARDEST part of my job is trying to figure out if you guys can get your 53’s into a neighborhood, street, apartment complex, or driveway. Shuttle truck service adds $1,500 to $2,000 to a move. I could tell a shipper “no way” and my competitor tells him “no problem” and lose the job. Or the shipper will say “a TT moved me in here”. What I’ve learned is it depends on the balls on the driver, and his rig. My worst nightmare is when a rookie driver or one with a freaking RV for a tractor calls for a shuttle on move day.
And here I am struggling with my 23’ TT on a wider street and wider driveway… I learned a lot watching this though
Everyone has a nickname in this industry. They don't ca them bed buggers for no reason.
Yeah, in this line of work, you never get onto a driveway.....well most driveways. There's obviously exceptions
We do this all the time delivering windows and trim for housing developments. The jackknife backup maneuver is crucial. Typically, we have trucks with Bartletts, so you can tilt the trailer downward to assist sliding the packages to the back. Granted, we're not usually in sleepers though and it's typically 48s, not 53s.
Makes me miss my shorty daycab
Meanwhile, somewhere in Europe… https://youtu.be/PXoAPmfDtvY?si=XbcV7hIqHj4uva3u I know, I know, cab over engine (EU default) and shorter trailer.
I do this everyday.
Reminds me of a place in penns grove
Bravo!! Took me 2 hours to back my 40 foot 5th wheel down the driveway from the road, (maybe 150 yards) then cut it 90 degrees into it's spot next to a rock wall. I've been wondering who to hire to get it back out when I move it out. Lol not looking forward to it. That guy made it look easy.
Suddenly my pants feel strange
Main reason I want to create a driveway with a in and out. Need to figure out the math of what sort of driveway can handle that weight and with a wide enough entry and exit to not tear anything up. I want to be lazy when parking at home.
There have to be formulas available somewhere. Of course it depends on how much room you have in front of you. But there are too many places where you have juuuuust enough room for them all to just be guessing. Of course you could just back in and pull out and see where your tires are, then add a few feet for some wiggle room
It's going to be a giant "U" shape with the house in the middle
Noice
This ain't even a fifth of the problem, you get there it's all right but it's never this easy to get into a residential
That’s an over grown car - look at that rear axle all the way up. Light loads are the best
I used to do international moves with 40' containers. I very rarely parked in the driveway. Usually I parked on the street and then a cube van backed up behind me and a plate connected the two units. The cube van had a side door and a ramp. The moving team would cardboard everything in the house before moving it into the container.
My driveway is over HeRE ...
Like a glove…
Yup all the time i have brought my trailer into places that seem impossible I love the challenge suburbs are usually really easy but once you get to L.A NYC SF and other major metro that's where it's hard everywhere else it's pretty easy I loved the challenge though.
We get a bollocking if we put 2.6ton moffett and a 2ton pack of plasterboard on a drive without getting the customer to sign a permission slip. Edit-added some context
in this situation im the lady on the back of the truck
I would almost say fuck it and pay a hot shotter to deliver a yard monkey at that house, then hang out until I load up and don’t need it anymore.
Thats a no from me big dawg. Nice backing though!
this is hell..... come to brookyln or any part of nyc.
From my experience delivering 16ft wide swimming pool shells to homeowners all across the country with a 290 inch wheelbase 289 and a 53ft spread axel step deck.. yes this happened and yes it's a bitch 🤙
16 feet wide? Holy crap those are some large swimming pools! 😱
I can do this in like eight seconds... If no one bitches about the tire marks on the grass I'll leave. Ahahahaha
I move quite a bit with my work and am always concerned about the movers having space for their trucks/trailers. I am impressed every time by how well they can maneuver in crazy spaces. You always know who is running the crew, the one driving the cab. Total respect to movers.
That's how you crack the driveway
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I'm not jealous of movers, car haulers, and P&D When I did fuel you couldn't deliver some places during day time cause you had to hang in a street or the tanks were blocked
Good on him but I wouldn’t want to have to do shit like that. Just getting there imagine how many low hanging branches got swiped
That driver is royalty and I have never met one at a moving company with those skills. Take about 10 hours for three average experienced movers to unload a packed 53 footer. Some people have way too much shit.
We do this daily, shipping cars, but luckily, we can drive the vehicles on and off. Many of our drivers are ex-movers who realized it's easier to drive cars on than carry a household's worth of items.
Yes, we really do that. Not every move, but, yes.
Your fucking package has arrived
1st move the Tandems forward, now you have gained maximum turning radius, back it in.
I do not miss driving commercial vehicles 🤢
Working food service will teach you real fast how to maneuver your sleeper with a 53’. I can’t even begin to count the number of time I have had people screaming at me “stop you’re going to hit the gas pump or my car”. Really bc I’m sure I do this every week 😂 thread that needle baby
There's a reason a lot of bed-buggers used to drive cabovers. Get into and out of some really hairy places
Try doing it with a Lowbed with a machine hanging off each side Don’t miss that at all
Cake
Reminds me of driving for Family Dollar.
brother, this is every day type shit.
That's cool
And the customer will still complain that they damaged a 2 square foot section of their grass by running over it...
Honestly this isn't difficult at all
Bout the average parking spot at the Pilot in Franklin Ohio 🤣🤣
Nice, most movers just block the road and say fuck everyone else
This is a lot like some of the dollar store accounts: Namely Dollar Tree and Family Dollar- Though there are still a handful of Dollar General stores that have some shitty locations. Then you have the locations that have you utilize the front parking area to prep yourself for a blindside maneuver, as you strive to dodge the cars parked in the area.
Yes.
wtf kinda music is this wtfffff
With a sleeper
Kenworths can go further past a 90 degree angle due to shorter fairings on the back vs a freightliner who has higher turn radius but the fairings on the back will touch at like 90-95 degrees It’s not common to see kenworth with bad fairings. They usually lose their side skirts which are hard plastic unlike rubber parts other trucks use
He should have looped around the block and backed in the side where there was no mailbox. Amateur hour
How to cause hundreds in damages for the next homeowner
Who the hell has a 100 ft driveway? Plantation owners in GA?
I found the northeast day cab driver...
Opposite coast my dude. Shit I don't even have a driveway.
Amazing he must’ve had at least two pints of fireball to pull this off..
Now try it at night in the snow