You are too kind. They are our natural predators, using religion to justify dehumanising women and taking away their rights. I hope they all end up like Bateman without the murders and torturing of sex workers.
Sorry I giggled at natural predators lol, I feel that so much though. I haven’t met a conservative man who I think honestly respects women. They think they do though.
I grilled my last date on abortion rights. He didn’t understand why women don’t just take pregnancy tests every time they have sex, or how a woman could not know they’re pregnant after 6 weeks. He didn’t know anything about doctors not being able to perform medically necessary abortions until the woman’s life is in danger saying “that’s not actually happening is it?”
But yeah, he could open a car door. *Such a gentleman*
> He didn’t understand why women don’t just take pregnancy tests every time they have sex
did you ask him why men don't shove a q-tip up their urethra every time they have sex, ya know, just to test for STIs?
Bahaha no.
I asked if he knew how much a pregnancy test costs or how long you need to wait until they are effective.
When I asked if he was willing to pay for pregnancy tests every time he had sex and why must that financial burden fall on women if he loves putting his semen in them so much, he didn’t respond.
Conservative men have a notoriously hard time on dating apps because of all the male supremacy stuff, and I’m glad more women are feeling comfortable following their heart away from conservatism.
My observation of the conservative men I’ve dated is they have a serious inability to empathize with people different from themselves, and cannot see past their small-minded worldview based solely on their personal experience.
Well I mean, thats almost definitionally conservatism lol. Sure some "scholar" will come in and with the "AKSHULLAY" and point out how they just want to keep things the way they are. But you'll notice they always stop the conversation when it comes time to talk about what they want to conserve.
If there was any way I'd look to describe modern contemporary american conservatives it would be almost word for word what you wrote. I'd only add a few things. They are incapable of seeing any other perspective than their own and are immediately hostile to any new or conflicting information to their understanding of anything.
If we wanted to go further, you could also just say conservatives are incapable of critical thinking, media literacy etc etc.
Always an oddity to meet/see conservative women because there is always two camps now adays. The ones who are seeing what conservatives want to do and in particular what they want to do to women and are genuinely shocked/surprised/disgusted because they heard family values and stopped there. Or the ones who know whats going on and what they want annnnd they're fully on board with it. Not even trying to hide that they also want a handmaiden's tale hellscape and want their "privileged" positions in that dynamic.
Gets even more depressing when you take a look at the voting numbers and see the women vote in 2022 was majority conservative.
Lmao regarding your first paragraph, I love when conservative men are so *obviously* trying to sound smart on reddit. Like dude, I can use proper grammar too. You sound like a teenager attempting to write a formal essay. No one is taking you seriously.
Random libertarians, the absolute worst. Yes yes, you dug out the thesaurus but you STILL can't consistently describe what a libertarian is because everything you talk about is immediately disproved lol.
It is a core feature of a conservative to lack empathy. If they had any empathy at all, they wouldn’t be a conservative. They tend to exhibit some “sympathy” but only if they can directly relate from their own experience
That's puritanism / slavery / anti-gay / anti-xeno / klan / anti-trans / anti-woman in one. It's one basic continuation of "People different from me are a part of the outgroup".
It's definitely an empathy thing. I have a conservative family member who willingly houses someone who immigrated undocumented. He loves the guy because the guy is nice and helps around the house. The man can't work legally and faces all the difficulties undocumented immigrants face, outside of the struggle to support a family because he's a single man with no kids. He really feels bad for the guy and wishes he could get him US citizenship somehow. But when it comes to those families who he hasn't personally met who crossed the border to ensure their kids grow up in a safer environment, my uncle hates them. He thinks they're draining the country's resources, even though I've told him a hundred times they can't receive anything they would need a SSN for. He fails to realize these people and the guy have almost identical situations and will likely never see a pathway to citizenship, but because he hasn't personally met those immigrant families, he will just write them off as undeserving and vote to deport.
Lol yes my mom is like this too.
I used to teach elementary school and had the kids interview their parents. All Latin American, almost all parents are immigrants, most escaped war, and all of them wrote they came to the United States to give their kids a better life.
She knows from how much I shared about my students and their families, they are all amazing people.
We had a crime happen locally that ended with 1 person dead and 3 suspects arrested. The first thing my mom said is “I wonder if they are immigrants”.
Like tell me you watch Fox News without telling me
I'll shorten it for you: you need to stop living your life based on whether your family and their church will approve.
They brought you up. They exposed you to their world. Now you are an adult and can make your own choices about what parts of your upbringing are meaningful and which you need to re evaluate.
I'm not saying it's easy -- it's not. But it's the best chance at making yourself happy.
I lived for 8 years in a very liberal place and dated many like-minded men. But unfortunately I’ve moved back home and the area is um, known for being very politically conservative unfortunately. It’s a big percentage of my hinge matches
Don’t feel bad, and don’t try to date “moderates” or “political centrists “ because that’s what conservatives call themselves on dating apps to get dates.
Date someone for YOU, not your family. Your family isn’t going to have to deal with him 24/7, and the person who will should be the only opinion that matters.
This really sounds like an awakening for you. I was raised in religion and it feels like, if I might be bold, that you're realizing the real meaning of religion without the patriarchy of religion. For example, men came to Jesus and complained that young women were dressing to risqué, they were showing off breasts and boobs and these guys were pissed because it was making them "irreligious" . So Jesus said "you know what? If it bothers you so much you should just gouge your own eyes out, that way you won't be offended". Don't even with Mary Magdalene.
You can keep you, you can keep your faith, and you can keep your standards. Just remember that being a good, strong human being is the best thing you can be.
I don’t mind people being religious or having faith in whatever way it is meaningful to them, but I am fully agnostic. I want nothing to do with any of it. As far as dating, I don’t mind if someone has faith in what they believe in, but expecting me to go to church is a no go for me
If you marry a religious conservative you will be VERY unhappy. I promise you. I am married to a Canadian conservative. He CANNOT tolerate me having an opinion that disagrees with his. He is not a bad man and is very good to me BUT the tension around here is palpable at times and he often stays away from me and refuses to speak to me for days at a time. Not good. Save yourself from that please.
I’m so sorry you’re in a tough situation like this! Ive been there too but not in a marriage. This is why I wrote I want a life partner not a debate partner. Anyone Ive previously dated with a different political position than mine, we just end up arguing and never seeing eye to eye. It was exhausting but I also just couldn’t see them the same way I did before some arguments
I'm Episcopalian, so I have no problem with religious men - ideally, same religion would be a plus - but definitely no interest in the kind of religious men who think they've got God's permission to hate other people.
Sometimes I get funny reactions. I have a cross I wear on a chain, it's handmade and is like a really tiny stained-glass window, made from different pieces of colored glass held together in a metal frame. Also, the way I dress I have been told I look "wholesomely feminine." One time someone walked up to me, and saw my cross, and I think made a bunch of assumptions, and started talking to me, and asked if I went to church, and when I said I did he complimented me on my necklace, and I said it was a gift from my priest. He and his husband took a class together and made this for me when I graduated from high school, saying they were going to miss their best babysitter.
That guy didn't really want to talk to me anymore after that, which is okay because I didn't want to talk to him. If my priest and his husband are a problem for you, keep on walking.
(Although now I've moved away and he's changed jobs to go work for the diocese so he's not really my priest anymore but oh well.)
You sound like the kind of Christian who follows Biblical Jesus, not Republican Jesus. I hope you find a nice equally Christian partner to be happy with.
Your necklace sounds beautiful!
The guy I was seeing is Catholic and wants his dad, who is some kind of Catholic priest, to marry him. I wouldn’t want to get married in a church or be forced to have a Catholic ceremony. I told him I wouldn’t attend church with him and he said “but that could change.” I knew in that moment it was over, because I never want to be with someone who holds onto that hope.
Cool, I’m a Bernie supporter politically but I do think his age is an issue just like Trump and Biden. But it is a good time for younger, more progressive politicians to step up. People like AOC or Omar.
Well even he recognized that and didn’t run this year. I agree, I hope sooner than later we are able to boost more progressive politicians, especially ones who can say a single authentic, coherent sentence 😂
Can I ask who you’re voting for in Nov?
I’m not voting for Trump, I will vote for Biden if he is the Democratic candidate but honestly I would much rather it if he steps down and we can nominate someone else. It would be a fresh start and I think we could all use that.
If I lived in a swing state I’d vote Biden as well. But I’m safely blue, so thinking about who to vote for otherwise to make a statement. Not sure about RFK
Voting third party doesn’t make a statement. Voting in progressives in down-ballot races does. Voting third party for presidential races just makes it more likely that the other guy will win. Also, do people not look into third party candidates any deeper than what they see on social media? RFK Jr is a conspiracy theorist and he’s said some wild-ass shit.
You might be “safely blue” but enough people deciding to protest vote in a “safely blue” area could give a win to the Republicans. And with Project 2025 looming, it’s better to be safe than sorry.
Sadly, I’m in a safely red state. So I’ll vote left and have my neighbors steal my voice. I really hope we get to the point where we get rid of the electoral college so that everyone’s vote can count equally
You are too kind. They are our natural predators, using religion to justify dehumanising women and taking away their rights. I hope they all end up like Bateman without the murders and torturing of sex workers.
Sorry I giggled at natural predators lol, I feel that so much though. I haven’t met a conservative man who I think honestly respects women. They think they do though. I grilled my last date on abortion rights. He didn’t understand why women don’t just take pregnancy tests every time they have sex, or how a woman could not know they’re pregnant after 6 weeks. He didn’t know anything about doctors not being able to perform medically necessary abortions until the woman’s life is in danger saying “that’s not actually happening is it?” But yeah, he could open a car door. *Such a gentleman*
> He didn’t understand why women don’t just take pregnancy tests every time they have sex did you ask him why men don't shove a q-tip up their urethra every time they have sex, ya know, just to test for STIs?
Bahaha no. I asked if he knew how much a pregnancy test costs or how long you need to wait until they are effective. When I asked if he was willing to pay for pregnancy tests every time he had sex and why must that financial burden fall on women if he loves putting his semen in them so much, he didn’t respond.
> \[conservative men\] are our natural predators In your view, if men are predators, what are conservative women to you?
What hyenas are to lions. The men take us down and the women pick us clean. I think the term is gender traitors.
Conservative men have a notoriously hard time on dating apps because of all the male supremacy stuff, and I’m glad more women are feeling comfortable following their heart away from conservatism.
My observation of the conservative men I’ve dated is they have a serious inability to empathize with people different from themselves, and cannot see past their small-minded worldview based solely on their personal experience.
Well I mean, thats almost definitionally conservatism lol. Sure some "scholar" will come in and with the "AKSHULLAY" and point out how they just want to keep things the way they are. But you'll notice they always stop the conversation when it comes time to talk about what they want to conserve. If there was any way I'd look to describe modern contemporary american conservatives it would be almost word for word what you wrote. I'd only add a few things. They are incapable of seeing any other perspective than their own and are immediately hostile to any new or conflicting information to their understanding of anything. If we wanted to go further, you could also just say conservatives are incapable of critical thinking, media literacy etc etc. Always an oddity to meet/see conservative women because there is always two camps now adays. The ones who are seeing what conservatives want to do and in particular what they want to do to women and are genuinely shocked/surprised/disgusted because they heard family values and stopped there. Or the ones who know whats going on and what they want annnnd they're fully on board with it. Not even trying to hide that they also want a handmaiden's tale hellscape and want their "privileged" positions in that dynamic. Gets even more depressing when you take a look at the voting numbers and see the women vote in 2022 was majority conservative.
Lmao regarding your first paragraph, I love when conservative men are so *obviously* trying to sound smart on reddit. Like dude, I can use proper grammar too. You sound like a teenager attempting to write a formal essay. No one is taking you seriously.
Random libertarians, the absolute worst. Yes yes, you dug out the thesaurus but you STILL can't consistently describe what a libertarian is because everything you talk about is immediately disproved lol.
It is a core feature of a conservative to lack empathy. If they had any empathy at all, they wouldn’t be a conservative. They tend to exhibit some “sympathy” but only if they can directly relate from their own experience
That's puritanism / slavery / anti-gay / anti-xeno / klan / anti-trans / anti-woman in one. It's one basic continuation of "People different from me are a part of the outgroup".
It's definitely an empathy thing. I have a conservative family member who willingly houses someone who immigrated undocumented. He loves the guy because the guy is nice and helps around the house. The man can't work legally and faces all the difficulties undocumented immigrants face, outside of the struggle to support a family because he's a single man with no kids. He really feels bad for the guy and wishes he could get him US citizenship somehow. But when it comes to those families who he hasn't personally met who crossed the border to ensure their kids grow up in a safer environment, my uncle hates them. He thinks they're draining the country's resources, even though I've told him a hundred times they can't receive anything they would need a SSN for. He fails to realize these people and the guy have almost identical situations and will likely never see a pathway to citizenship, but because he hasn't personally met those immigrant families, he will just write them off as undeserving and vote to deport.
Lol yes my mom is like this too. I used to teach elementary school and had the kids interview their parents. All Latin American, almost all parents are immigrants, most escaped war, and all of them wrote they came to the United States to give their kids a better life. She knows from how much I shared about my students and their families, they are all amazing people. We had a crime happen locally that ended with 1 person dead and 3 suspects arrested. The first thing my mom said is “I wonder if they are immigrants”. Like tell me you watch Fox News without telling me
I'll shorten it for you: you need to stop living your life based on whether your family and their church will approve. They brought you up. They exposed you to their world. Now you are an adult and can make your own choices about what parts of your upbringing are meaningful and which you need to re evaluate. I'm not saying it's easy -- it's not. But it's the best chance at making yourself happy.
I lived for 8 years in a very liberal place and dated many like-minded men. But unfortunately I’ve moved back home and the area is um, known for being very politically conservative unfortunately. It’s a big percentage of my hinge matches
How many successful matches do you need? Yeah, the dating pool will be quite a bit shallower. Maybe you'll need to take a break -- I hope not.
Don’t feel bad, and don’t try to date “moderates” or “political centrists “ because that’s what conservatives call themselves on dating apps to get dates. Date someone for YOU, not your family. Your family isn’t going to have to deal with him 24/7, and the person who will should be the only opinion that matters.
I totally agree!
This really sounds like an awakening for you. I was raised in religion and it feels like, if I might be bold, that you're realizing the real meaning of religion without the patriarchy of religion. For example, men came to Jesus and complained that young women were dressing to risqué, they were showing off breasts and boobs and these guys were pissed because it was making them "irreligious" . So Jesus said "you know what? If it bothers you so much you should just gouge your own eyes out, that way you won't be offended". Don't even with Mary Magdalene. You can keep you, you can keep your faith, and you can keep your standards. Just remember that being a good, strong human being is the best thing you can be.
I don’t mind people being religious or having faith in whatever way it is meaningful to them, but I am fully agnostic. I want nothing to do with any of it. As far as dating, I don’t mind if someone has faith in what they believe in, but expecting me to go to church is a no go for me
If you marry a religious conservative you will be VERY unhappy. I promise you. I am married to a Canadian conservative. He CANNOT tolerate me having an opinion that disagrees with his. He is not a bad man and is very good to me BUT the tension around here is palpable at times and he often stays away from me and refuses to speak to me for days at a time. Not good. Save yourself from that please.
I’m so sorry you’re in a tough situation like this! Ive been there too but not in a marriage. This is why I wrote I want a life partner not a debate partner. Anyone Ive previously dated with a different political position than mine, we just end up arguing and never seeing eye to eye. It was exhausting but I also just couldn’t see them the same way I did before some arguments
Date who you want. It's you who will be spending the most time with this person, and that relationship should bring you peace and happiness.
I'm Episcopalian, so I have no problem with religious men - ideally, same religion would be a plus - but definitely no interest in the kind of religious men who think they've got God's permission to hate other people. Sometimes I get funny reactions. I have a cross I wear on a chain, it's handmade and is like a really tiny stained-glass window, made from different pieces of colored glass held together in a metal frame. Also, the way I dress I have been told I look "wholesomely feminine." One time someone walked up to me, and saw my cross, and I think made a bunch of assumptions, and started talking to me, and asked if I went to church, and when I said I did he complimented me on my necklace, and I said it was a gift from my priest. He and his husband took a class together and made this for me when I graduated from high school, saying they were going to miss their best babysitter. That guy didn't really want to talk to me anymore after that, which is okay because I didn't want to talk to him. If my priest and his husband are a problem for you, keep on walking. (Although now I've moved away and he's changed jobs to go work for the diocese so he's not really my priest anymore but oh well.)
You sound like the kind of Christian who follows Biblical Jesus, not Republican Jesus. I hope you find a nice equally Christian partner to be happy with.
Your necklace sounds beautiful! The guy I was seeing is Catholic and wants his dad, who is some kind of Catholic priest, to marry him. I wouldn’t want to get married in a church or be forced to have a Catholic ceremony. I told him I wouldn’t attend church with him and he said “but that could change.” I knew in that moment it was over, because I never want to be with someone who holds onto that hope.
What’s your opinion about dating guys who are socialists
Democratic socialist? I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primaries
Yes
Then yes
Cool, I’m a Bernie supporter politically but I do think his age is an issue just like Trump and Biden. But it is a good time for younger, more progressive politicians to step up. People like AOC or Omar.
Well even he recognized that and didn’t run this year. I agree, I hope sooner than later we are able to boost more progressive politicians, especially ones who can say a single authentic, coherent sentence 😂 Can I ask who you’re voting for in Nov?
I’m not voting for Trump, I will vote for Biden if he is the Democratic candidate but honestly I would much rather it if he steps down and we can nominate someone else. It would be a fresh start and I think we could all use that.
If I lived in a swing state I’d vote Biden as well. But I’m safely blue, so thinking about who to vote for otherwise to make a statement. Not sure about RFK
Voting third party doesn’t make a statement. Voting in progressives in down-ballot races does. Voting third party for presidential races just makes it more likely that the other guy will win. Also, do people not look into third party candidates any deeper than what they see on social media? RFK Jr is a conspiracy theorist and he’s said some wild-ass shit. You might be “safely blue” but enough people deciding to protest vote in a “safely blue” area could give a win to the Republicans. And with Project 2025 looming, it’s better to be safe than sorry.
I live in Los Angeles so no, I don’t worry about my 3rd party vote.
Sadly, I’m in a safely red state. So I’ll vote left and have my neighbors steal my voice. I really hope we get to the point where we get rid of the electoral college so that everyone’s vote can count equally
Oh yeah, love seeing Republicans squirm to defend the electoral college. They can’t see the irony, of being a minority.
> People like AOC or Omar. Neither of these two are electable