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Used_Return9095

bro i literally saw everyone in geisel open up reddit all at oncešŸ˜­


burner_to_burn

Bet theyā€™re still going to keep the student fees that were supposed to pay for it tho. Couldnā€™t graduate from here without one last uc scam Diego move.


Kitchen_Scheme_9555

I mean rightfully you could launch yourself into a whole legal mess regarding just compensation . But that would be a process


tunnel_rat_420

Well you won't "graduate" because that will probably get canceled to


emmziesx

i want my money back


FarAdvertising3063

There were like 2 security guards on library walk didnā€™t realize that was all they had


AreCave

Iā€™m sure those 2 security guards were all they could afford this year (ignore the donor money)


oof3rgang

Donā€™t they hire outside security for events too??


insanelygreat

Got me curious: 40% of the money allocated for Sun God goes towards security.[^1](https://ucsdguardian.org/2023/05/22/the-downfall-of-sun-god-festival-and-asce/) That would mean ~$365k on security in 2023.[^2](https://web.archive.org/web/20230921012213/https://as.ucsd.edu/DownloadDocument?id=1436&view=True) I'm sure some of that goes towards crowd control, fencing, and EMS. But even with that considered, $365k seems like a *lot* of money for one night. Say it costs $120/hr per security person. $120k gets you 100 security people for 10 hours which seems like a lot. I'm just an alum, but y'all should request a breakdown of spending for prior Sun God festivals from the CFO. If that's not readily available, it raises some other concerns.


Drew_pew

100 security people might actually be reasonable, but 120/hour is a wild estimate. It's prolly more like 25-30


insanelygreat

I was thinking off-duty law enforcement.


deeyenda

Times might have changed since I went, but Sun God was basically an all-campus affair back then. 100 security people isn't much for the entirety of the campus. That said, security for Sun God is probably overblown and mostly unnecessary anyway unless you kids have learned to party a hell of a lot more destructively than the student body of my day.


crasher_7000

Yes. The protest's security needs is so insignificant compared to Sun God's. They hire outside security for Sun God. This decision barely makes sense.


tunnel_rat_420

There were 1-2 squad cars around today


schnukums

Its likely a punitive social engineering tactic to get people to turn on the protester so they don't have to use heavy handed tactics to get rid of them and can save face. If they can make YOU mad the the protestors for ruining Sun God then they don't have to do anything about the protestors. I.E. The situation will resolve itself (Insert the Bob's from Office Space meme) by turning the student body against itself. They aren't dummies and if I were in their shoes I would do the same. I'm not saying I agree with how they are handling it, it's spineless and petty.


Panda0nfire

Easy way for the university to get everyone to say fuck the protesters and get upset at them


arand0md00d

Kholslaw has wanted to cancel it for years now. This provided just enough of a distraction to give him some cover. It's not coming back


573

It was canceled in 2020 and 2021 and still came back. UCSD has very little going for it socially -- there's no way they cancel it for good.


Signal_Foundation

yes, this is a false ploy to try and get blame directed towards the protest and run off with our money after squeezing the students dry.


Quelch1704

The money part is a little too cynical but the rest I agree with


UCSD-Lunatic

they literally have multiple snipers each year


pianistr2002

Really??


Kitchen_Scheme_9555

Yes


Nickisbetterthanyou

Something tells me they actually do have the budget for security for both


Sorry-Bag-2703

I bet they do, they just want to weaponize this ā€œcancellationā€ against the encampment


Joooonnnnnn

Can we get jpegmafia to perform at the encampment instead??


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Glittering_Sand_4579

Yes!! Heā€™s been known to be inspired by social movements and protests for his art. Imagine if he wrong a song ABOUT the UCSD student encampments https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/1cj3c2r/heres_how_to_bring_back_sun_god/


No-Introduction-6114

How about we protest and camp against sungod cancellation?


AreCave

Rimac Field is now open this weekend šŸ’ā€ā™€ļø


No-Introduction-6114

Petition for students to perform at Sun God šŸ™


B-B-Baguette

Karaoke contest


TigerShark_524

On God, our theater & dance dept and music dept are some of the top in the country, especially at the grad level - I'll bet they could bring in some awesome student performers.


pianistr2002

thx for shouting out the music department! thereā€™s so many truly talented students there.


Economy-Can2294

I'm actually shocked there isn't already something being planned with 1000's of students gonna show up to the field. I'd be there.


hyrkinonit

the protest is nowhere near sun god and not rowdy at all, the school doesn't need any security over there. this is 100% on the school admin


iamunknowntoo

they're pretty blatantly trying to pit the student protesters against the whole student body


honeyemote

Yeah, they have a similar vibe at UCSB with regards to commencement.


Quelch1704

Yes!!! There is no legit threat of violence and I am not one of them I promise


pumpkinpie205

The way I ran to this app


justtoreadstories

IMMEDIATELY lol


lotusrnsn

the people must talk šŸ—£ļø


yourmotherdotnet

not even the flash could stop mešŸ˜­


i_Borg

frrr


070drakenextdoor

this schoolā€™s not seeing the gates


i_Borg

this feels pretty suspiciously like a way to turn the student body against the protest idk


[deleted]

exactly, the administration here is actually so toxic. this is def a way for them to get students to hate on the protestors.


PavementBlues

Graduated 14 years ago and this still rings true. One of their hallmark moves then was to unnecessarily escalate response to protests and change rules to clamp down on student expression. Seems little has changed. Keep fighting the good fight over there.


howardchen1

Yeah..same..I can't totally believe it is about safety. What we say? One stone to shoot two birds.


Sorry-Bag-2703

No one feels unsafe with the protest, they are just pigs


PM_ME_UR_SHEET_MUSIC

I do feel somewhat unsafe with the protest, but not because of the protesters, I just don't trust the fuckin school---or the police. Respect to the people brave enough to actually be out there


howardchen1

The timing..I think one reason can be about Safety, but I felt like they can use a right reason to....


InternalLazy6081

100% what it is.


bluesteeIy

Yes thatā€™s what me and my friends were saying


1984vintage

That was my first thought.


memeorinno

legit my first thought šŸ˜­ im sure this email notification wonā€™t make discussion unbearable online /s


franchesca012

They were quick with itšŸ˜­


crasher_7000

Why is UCSD trying to pin students against each other. They have unlimited resources for security, that is such a bs excuse.


AppleGUY2812

more like khosla is trying to buy a new lamborghini with sun god money


Technical_Nerve_3681

Yes, this is exactly what theyā€™re trying to do. Wild


spinach17

if theyā€™re using this to pit us against the protesters they shouldā€™ve got a better lineup


Speculative_Designer

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tacoman107

Why are you so right though?


Frosty_Interview_639

thatā€™s insane


1984vintage

They canā€™t help themselves. I guess we need the police forā€¦..tents.


crackerbomb12

the budget for sungod is nearly a million dollars and a big chunk of it is to hiring private security specifically for the eventā€¦ they have plenty of security this is just ucsd admin trying to pit students against a peaceful protest


Picometers

So where are the AS programming funds going to?


aviewaviee

literally retaliation but okay.


Cute-Guarantee-6686

boutta cite uc learning


LargeCoinPurse

its pretty pathetic actually


aviewaviee

theyre cowards. they cant handle us speaking out against them so they take away things the STUDENTS CREATED for OTHER STUDENTS to enjoy to make themselves feel big.


LargeCoinPurse

All because we dare say that our university should not be funding a genocide by trying to make as much money as they can in the stock market. its unbelievable


tacooooo123

This is a very disgusting manipulative move on their part. No one is believing that bullshit reason


iamunknowntoo

Reminds me of when they got some grad student workers on strike arrested by claiming they did $10,000 worth of damages on a building by doing chalk graffiti (here https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/14nxe8w/uc\_san\_diego\_student\_workers\_arrested\_jailed/). Something isn't adding up


HOHOHO174

Lmao it was def chalk


TigerShark_524

Precisely.


Speculative_Designer

The math is not mathing


[deleted]

ucsd admin is the worst. the protestors have been peaceful, and they can totally have enough security for both. most of the security for sun god is hired security anyways, theyā€™re just straight lying in order to get students to turn on the protestors.


Sorry-Bag-2703

They dont care about us, theyre using resources for a peaceful protest. Theyre just trying to turn students against the protest. They are trying to use us as weapons. Disgusting.


Dewuster888

Bruh I just got my wrist band for Sungod & they canceled it! Talk about a coincidence


a-asian

Pitting students against students is so sick and cruel


tyray21

admin are such spiteful cowards. hoes got scared


chenrytg

Me when I'm in an engineer anti-protestor sentiment challenge to institute an excuse to shut down the encampment and my opponent is UCSD


OrganizationOk6059

Can someone please start a petition or something? Thereā€™s no need for security at the protest, itā€™s been peaceful. Walked by today. The amount of funding that goes into this school is ridiculous (public record!) and the fact that they canā€™t follow up on their commitment to promote studentā€™s wellbeing for ā€œsecurityā€ at a peaceful protest is INSANE. Plus, theyā€™ve already spent resources preparing for this event. Youā€™re telling me you havenā€™t already paid for everything in advance? Yeah whatever. Doesnā€™t make sense. Does anyone know what we can do to be like šŸ–• to the school? This isnā€™t the protestorsā€™ fault, the school wants us to feel that way. Chancellor Coleslaw is playing games. WEā€™RE SMARTER THAN THAT!!!


Fabulous-Cause9857

im gonna host the sun god yall come thru


Aggressive-Big-4787

IĀ“m afraid this might put angry fesival (not) goers gainst the protesters and make the protest violent or at least more visible, since theyĀ“re causing more disruption


tyray21

theyā€™re being spiteful to punish the students. itā€™s bullshit flying out of their mouths


Moodijudi8059

Iā€™m sure it will. Iā€™m also sure they calculated that as a factor into their decision making. There are barely a dozen tents and a few homies just chillingšŸ¤Æ. How does that warrant all of their security resources to be re-allocated to that. šŸ™€ Theyā€™re waiting/ hoping something will happen so they have the slightest in to incite violence on to a peaceful demonstration, then point fingers in the opposite direction.


Glittering_Sand_4579

It completely doesnā€™t make any sense. Theyā€™re literally just vibing and chilling. They were even asking people to clean up after themselves to make it liveable when I stopped in. We should be working with them instead https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/1cj3c2r/heres_how_to_bring_back_sun_god/


Deutero2

not too surprising but damn


__honeycat

ucsd is building skyscrapers on campus and canā€™t afford extra security? bffr, itā€™s obviously a tactic to turn the student body against the encampment


dragonmawe

theyre doing this just to rub it into our faces They act like we are being violent at these protests when itā€™s only bc peaceful. And for security reasons?? When there isnā€™t even any security at the protests?? It doesnā€™t make any sense


Complete-Ad-823

Thats it im stepping in


Ancient-Practice-431

Oh man. Impromptu replacement concert at the encampment is the next move.


darknep

UCSD is really helping out the protest by causing as much of a disruption as possible without the protestors doing much and remaining peaceful. lol... keep it up! they're very clearly trying to weaponize the students to turn against the protest... they said that this is because "they don't have enough resources for safety" -- there's at most like 10 officers at the encampment at any given time, and SGF is a multi-million dollar event. They could afford it if they really cared about your student experience. Don't fall for their antics. This should anger you against the university, not the protestors exercising their rights.


AreCave

Where will that money go now šŸ˜³


Fun-Detective8187

Most if not all of what would have been spent has already spent. The stage and fencing around campus is already completed. Typical performance contracts will pay the artist what they would have been paid had they performed.


AreCave

That does make sense, but that would mean itā€™s a very large waste of money to cancel, no? Sun God in its previous years already had tight security


Tahj42

Definitely not sponsoring genocide or any kind of repressive action against the students, right?


Similar_Guidance2339

coleslawā€™s (khoslaā€™s) check obviously


Sea_Relationship4894

I saw some guy fall to his knees in an abandoned parking lotā€¦


Take-the-Wheel

just saw someone fall onto their knees at the UTC trolley station


ucstdthrowaway

This will prob backfire, now nobody is going to sun god and that means a lot more people can go join the protests Saturday


Spooner420_

I did not expect this at allšŸ˜­


tacooooo123

Is the motto of this school SERIOUSLY that theyā€™re going to punish their students because of a peaceful protest they disagree with? This is a calculated move on their part.


Opposite-Cat2340

do yā€™all think classes are gonna get cancelled now too


AnyParamedic6167

The only good thing ucsd has socially once a year and itā€™s cancelled


Ephaxia

Bring this to the news


Joe_onna_boat

The UCSD higher ups are scared of tents on a relatively small patch of grass? Theyā€™re so pettyšŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ˜­


Mxteor

Just fell to my knees at wongavery library


iNoodl3s

Just fell to my knees in the UTC Trolley station


asdftyper

Just fell to my knees at Sixth College Rooftop


Kitchen_Scheme_9555

Just fell off Geisel


[deleted]

Just fell on my knees Geisel West 2nd floor


NinjaJay9487

I knew this was going to happen


r3dcray0n

like are u fucking kidding me


rockyboy_

L UCSD


absihavenone

Time to pitch tents on rimac field šŸ«”


alj8002

Damn and I know for a fact they ainā€™t giving us back our tuition money that went towards funding all that


edhawk125

My senior year we had Drake performā€¦oh dear Sun God how far have you fallenā€¦


golden_shower_boy

Protest for sungod anyone?


Flaky-Situation5281

Join the encampment!!!!!


medralin

How can we protest against admin?


traqwahter

join the encampment. this is exactly what they donā€™t want. being angry at the protestors IS what they want.


Flaky-Situation5281

Do it!!!!! We should all join!!!


Dinkster21

Does anyone actually buy this besides people that were already against the protest or does everyone see this as retaliation


Beneficial-Wrap-2846

anyone with half a braincell understands that this is retaliation


Dinkster21

I was wondering how many students go here with only 1/3 of a brain cell


Beneficial-Wrap-2846

at least a few according to some of these comments lol


Yumuto

Surely the billions of dollars they receive in tuition funds meant they couldnā€™t possibly hire more outside security. Itā€™s also insane that this actually depletes the event funds we pay for just so the university can make a cringe ass statement. RIP the JPEG Mafia mosh


Embarrassed-Pen9645

not surprised at all šŸ’€


peedubb

As an alumni, Iā€™ll make sure to explicitly say fuck yā€™all when they call and ask for money.


Beneficial-Wrap-2846

man they rly think we are dumb enough to believe this excuse šŸ˜¹ remind me what school weā€™re at again


AliveBaseball8772

i was hesitating should i join the protest, after this, I'm joining


itsKingLiz

Seems like an attempt to build resentment towards the protesters


junkimchi

As an alum that has been following what's going on, this is the most shameless pussyshit thing the administration could have done. They are legit trying to force social pressure on those of you that are protesting to stop. If I were a student, this would be the straw that breaks my back and I'll join the camp because of this. Makes zero sense and is totally bullshit. Fuck the admins.


Silly-Carry1652

Jokes would be on them if we all join the protest as well as a retaliation to cancelling sun god


LostUnderstanding770

bruh


DerangedMindUCSD

Preparing for the rage


IllustriousReach241

gotta be fucking kidding me. I paid way too much to be at this fucking school.


21CFR820

Make no mistake. This is retaliation by the school. The intention is to hand down collective punishment to try to manipulate the rest of the student body to turn against the protestors.


protechifumi

Don't give them what they want y'all, we all know this is some nonsensical bullshit meant to pit students against the peaceful protesters. It is pretty hilarious if you take this announcement at face value though, given that there were only like 3 cops at the encampment earlier today (you're telling me the school's Israel-adjacent investments can only fund enough for 3 cops!? šŸ˜±). They get 3rd party security for Sun God from craigslist and other non-UC affiliated places anyways, so this is all just one big lie to spark controversy.


trmpsux

I say letā€™s go to Kholsaā€™s FREE house he lives in and set up an impromptu Sungod there and then set up tents so we can all sleep afterwards on his damn lawn! Fck that biatch


Alternative_Dark_704

meet up at sun god lawn saturday, bring a speaker šŸ’ƒšŸ½


Jazzer021

UCSD admin thought process. take our money -> make widely unpopular changes -> students complain -> make concessions -> end up not implementing the concessions -> profit


chrisellele

Yeah as if theyā€™ll deploy the same amount of securities needed at sungod for the peaceful protesting. What an excuse


ItsDrNotMiss

Sounds like theyā€™re trying to turn students against the protestorsā€¦


absihavenone

Timely Warning: Mass Theft


Economy-Can2294

I WANT MY FUCKING STUDENT FEE BACK! AND EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD GET THEIRS BACK TOO. NON-PEACEFUL PROTEST ON LIBRARY WALK SATURDAY! ...MAYBE THEY'LL LEARN WHICH IS THE CHEAPER OPTION.


sunnybear990

former avp of campus affairs here ā€” i highly echo another comment i saw here re: pestering admin for a fiscal breakdown of the student fees which are now all allegedly being diverted to encampment security; i also HIGHLY encourage you to contact any news organizations that you possibly can and bring as much attention to the story as you can ā€” how khosla et al decided to handle this situation is absolutely despicable and theyā€™ll hate the bad press


TransitionEvery1055

so we need to protest more....


Livid_Substance_3497

canā€™t fund more security but can construct multi million dollar buildings


UCSD-Lunatic

Going to the encampment this weekend instead, anyone joining me?


tyray21

already had that time set aside for sun god, so the encampment it is then


AllBlackPanchamp

Amazing alternative. UCSD thought itā€™d turn me against the protest but this just gave me more reason to support it and join it!


Bulky_Sheepherder_14

I am NOT going to the encampment with a dude who has that manifesto in his bio.


Apprehensive_Claim1

I fully support, might as well give them the crowd theyā€™re so anxiously preparing for!


RelevantSleep8386

sir yes sir


MegaMaster10

wtf this is such bullshit


Apprehensive_Fox4115

May the fourth not be with you


Living-Watch9308

now instead of going to sungod, even more people will be available to protest!


AvailabilityUsername

Sleep at library walk in retaliation


traqwahter

join the encampment!!!


nogoodppl

ucsd literally made almost 8 billion dollars in 2023 but they canā€™t afford securityā€¦


anticschi

not the manipulation tactics to get us pinned against eachother šŸ˜­šŸ˜­admin thinks weā€™re dumb šŸ¤£this is only gonna make the protest stronger, free palestine!


Mauroos

This shit gonna backfire so bad lmao


VanillaB34n

Pretty ready to watch ppl flip sides at the slightest personal inconvenience, it will highlight the absurdity of it all


Tahj42

I bet y'all this kind of retaliatory shit wasn't needed. They just doing it so people would hate on each other.


secretwep

Class of 2024 boutta beat Class of 2020 at being the unluckiest class if they keep up this cancelling shit until commencement


Boring-Bus-60

It has got to be reverse psychology to get us support the encampment!!!!šŸ˜­


Quelch1704

The administration wants to show you how disruptive the tents are to your lives so you turn against the protesters. While in reality they have been really tame. You students should be pissed off


juliastarrr

they're going to start a riot


Fuwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Reminder this is not the peaceful protestors faults!!! This is an attempt for the campus to turn the general student body against the encampment when it is actually the university at fault!!!


fortunateson_24

she fest on my sun till i god šŸ˜”


CheekyGruffFaddler

ucsd on that ā€œdogshit schoolā€ grindset, i see


ElevatorAggressive92

afterparty still happening @ 9630 La Jolla Farms Rd. BYOE till šŸ½shut it down everyone free before 8 CS Majors:85$


Front_Movie5205

Very true


Ok-Fig-732

We gonna have a protest for this cancellation


TheWayofTheSchwartz

Haaaaaaa. I'm not even the least bit surprised. UCSD admin hates when their students have fun and try to live a little. NOW GET BACK TO STUDYING.


ramen_king000

Pradeep Khosla you fucking slut


TheWondercats

Definitely trying to make us hate on the peaceful protestors. I believe admin's excuse is quite silly at the least.


Rainbow_Kali

This decision literally makes no senseā€¦


DrySausage

This is a great thing for the protests to get visibility. Like look at the difference in upvotes and comments between the pictures of the protests earlier and this post. Obviously students care more about sungod than children in Gaza being bombed. Great job to UCSD admin for bringing more attention to the protests in ways that the students will also be affected. UCSD admin playing 3D chess.


ExaminationRound2278

Are we going to get refunds on our tuition that is spent for Sungod or are they stealing more money


Kitchen_Scheme_9555

FUCK THIS SCHOOL, I just wanted to wear my cute sungod fit . This shit better b rescheduled but that's wishful thinking


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dasAbigAss

Ima be hones, it's free Palestinian all the way


neuralnutwork42

taking after their zionist masters w the collective punishment


vsalmcda

As long as they donā€™t cancel graduation šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Unique-Set-4500

Maybe we can beg [[email protected]](mailto:) to reverse the decision...


Eastern_Pomelo7358

tbh, the lineup did not seem that intriguing anyway except maybe for that grant perez guy everyone was fiending over.


Tritondaddy123

Hoes got scared literally


MLXx

trash


Economy-Can2294

We need to have a protest (for SunGod) on Saturday on the field where SunGod should have been...I think 1000's would show up to that.


YESSERH

Lmao just turn everybody against the peaceful protestors ig


dirty_S

Damn I used to be proud I graduated from here


Phenix621

UC Socially Dead. Admin always kills the fun šŸ˜ž