Great question! I would also like to know what ever happened with the implants that he found, I remember being a child watching documentaries about Dr. Leir but I've never seen any real follow up.
We never either got the results of the metals shavings Coulthard said he had taken from the large self moving metal ball in that Texas guys house and that he said had given to Nolan I believe more then a year ago ?
Nolan said in the interview with Coulthard that he couldn't find anyone or the technology to x-ray the sphere. Which I know to be bullshit. We x-ray pipe at work all the time and it's not a big deal. Nor is it cost prohibitive.
Yeah the way both have walked back on that story shows how they tend to minimize and actively ignore the cases where they where shown as wrong. Which as a scientists is pretty sad on the part of Nolan as in science there is as much worth in failed experiments as in confirmed ones.
Nolan on the recovered materials:
https://youtu.be/dzTZbSNsKV8?si=V1X7s7tgvDFLSGKE
Nolan talks about the sphere I think here:
https://youtu.be/XR0JtbuLhPo?si=Txz8sUNB17LxRAvw
Yes they talk about it at this timestamp :
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR0JtbuLhPo&t=2900s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR0JtbuLhPo&t=2900s)
Video is from 6 months ago and they don't seem to have found time to study this self moving metal sphere since ? oh well.
Posting this pertinent post from user [windmillfucker](https://www.reddit.com/user/windmillfucker/) (lol tho at the name but ok ...) here as the OP from the r/ufo initial thread has a tendency of blocking people who don't drink his koolaid :
"I have first authored antibiotic research, switched careers and currently am a MD. I don't know material science and I'm pretty open, but this has some very strange things going on from a medical standpoint.
First off, the UV fluoresce reported by the patient (I'm assuming the patient because they note this with his self reported symptoms and not in a medical procedure) could be pretty unsurprising. Some bacterial/fungal infections can fluoresce under UV light and the foot is a common spot for infection, especially with a puncture wound from stepping on something. UV light can be used if you are looking for foreign bodies in a wound but part of the reason I assume this was done by the patient is that surgical exploration of a wound or removal of a foreign body does not traditionally include UV examination. Also, foreign bodies are usually kept in formalin or saline solution. It would be strange to store it in blood/serum. To be fair, I'm not a surgeon, so if one wants to correct me, please do.
The lack of noted inflammatory response really doesn't mean much to me because at all because they did not include any of his medical information, so how am I supposed to know if this is unexpected for the patient? There are so many factors that could impact inflammatory response or immunologic status that this is pretty striking to leave out. Where is the histology report of surrounding tissue? How are they assessing inflammation? What level of inflammation isn't present? If pain was increasing over 4 days, that sounds like an inflammatory response - why would the pain level change if the body isn't reacting - or are we claiming aliens designed this thing to hurt? Too much relevant info is absent.
"The function of the device cannot be determined with certainty from the available data, and the device may have had multiple functions and missions. Because the device was connected to Mr. Smith’s nervous system, it is likely, however, that two of its functions had to do with monitoring of the physiological state of Mr. Smith’s body, and mood/mind control."
Alright - that is one hell of a claim. If you say something like this I want to know EXACTLY how it is connected to his nervous system since it is "monitoring his body/mood". This thing was in his second toe, there is no way that the basic temperature, pain, and pressure type nerves in that part of the body would be able to generate any useful info about the brain or his mood. These things are basic wires at this stage, its like saying because you are standing on your neighborhood street, you know how the exact arrangement of delivery trucks in the city. They also say his mood improved.... which is completely expected when you remove a painful foreign body. Common things are common.
Though, rereading this (why am I doing this), it seems like it was just extracted in an podiatrist office setting. Even more so this was done within 4 days of the wound appearing, so this guy managed to not only convince a podiatrist that he has an alien implant but have it removed within 4 days? I'm not saying this is impossible but if you been subjected to healthcare here you'll understand its an unlikely timeframe. Unless everyone has put the cart before the horse.
My take away is I just wasted a lot time and if you are gonna "publish" a creative writing paper, stay in your lane because these things always are fucking gibberish to those who know the subject matter.
Edit: OP also blocked me lmao - discourse at its finest"
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They tried to smear the scientist behind the analysis and Dr Leir with lies because they couldn't attack the science. Classic debunker tactic often called out by Stanton Friedman. Then they started attacking me for pointing that out.
Look, at the end of the day. Who really cares? Nobody knows what's going on. People want truth, and when they think they know some truth, they either realize the rabbit hole is deep or that whatever "evidence" they gave is sufficient enough to try and debunk. They feel that they have a justifiable cause for truth and that excuses them of being shitty.
Sucks that it happened. Idk. Whether the info is true or not, I enjoyed it at face value but was curious to see if these implants were ever studied by Dr. Nolan.
Gary- *you have to be as smart as me to see ufos* - Nolan talks about analysing a lot of stuff, but rarely, if ever, shares his findings. The ufo grift wagon is getting full.
He shared his analysis of an object that humans probably had the technology to fabricate by 1946 and definitely did have the technology to fabricate by 1948, and he falsely claimed that because it was found in the 1950s, it must be alien, along with the lie that "humans couldn't have made it".
My question is why, when Nolan is not a physicist do people trust his physical analysis of materials? That's not his area of expertise. There is a very real possibility of Dunning-Krueger going on.
i think sometimes a successful person in one field are so arrogant they think it will translate to an unrelated field. henry ford thought he could stop ww2, even though he wasn’t a diplomat or politician or military leader, he was just a guy that sold a lot of cars.
That is literally the Dunning-Krueger effect: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger\_effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect)
While he didn’t necessarily say it was anything to do with intelligence, when he speaks about that part of the brain he talks about it in way that makes it seem like he thinks people like him with that enlargement or whatever are special. I like Nolan, but that was a little off-putting and elitist sounding.
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I've seen so many I have no idea. He gets frequently asked about it in podcasts. I'm pretty sure he mentioned it in one of his that ufo podcast appearances.
Can’t even read this sub…body horror #alien or anything removed from my body that is not part of the biological makeup creeps me the F out….assuming the biological makeup up in in fact non aliens lols
Great question! I would also like to know what ever happened with the implants that he found, I remember being a child watching documentaries about Dr. Leir but I've never seen any real follow up.
We never either got the results of the metals shavings Coulthard said he had taken from the large self moving metal ball in that Texas guys house and that he said had given to Nolan I believe more then a year ago ?
Nolan said in the interview with Coulthard that he couldn't find anyone or the technology to x-ray the sphere. Which I know to be bullshit. We x-ray pipe at work all the time and it's not a big deal. Nor is it cost prohibitive.
Yeah the way both have walked back on that story shows how they tend to minimize and actively ignore the cases where they where shown as wrong. Which as a scientists is pretty sad on the part of Nolan as in science there is as much worth in failed experiments as in confirmed ones.
I am literally conducting gamma radiography as we speak, it can be done.
Nolan on the recovered materials: https://youtu.be/dzTZbSNsKV8?si=V1X7s7tgvDFLSGKE Nolan talks about the sphere I think here: https://youtu.be/XR0JtbuLhPo?si=Txz8sUNB17LxRAvw
Yes they talk about it at this timestamp : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR0JtbuLhPo&t=2900s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR0JtbuLhPo&t=2900s) Video is from 6 months ago and they don't seem to have found time to study this self moving metal sphere since ? oh well.
Too busy conferencing about UAPs to study them.
[link to r/ufo thread on Dr. Lier's implant material analysis](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/G19BwQxAe3)
Posting this pertinent post from user [windmillfucker](https://www.reddit.com/user/windmillfucker/) (lol tho at the name but ok ...) here as the OP from the r/ufo initial thread has a tendency of blocking people who don't drink his koolaid : "I have first authored antibiotic research, switched careers and currently am a MD. I don't know material science and I'm pretty open, but this has some very strange things going on from a medical standpoint. First off, the UV fluoresce reported by the patient (I'm assuming the patient because they note this with his self reported symptoms and not in a medical procedure) could be pretty unsurprising. Some bacterial/fungal infections can fluoresce under UV light and the foot is a common spot for infection, especially with a puncture wound from stepping on something. UV light can be used if you are looking for foreign bodies in a wound but part of the reason I assume this was done by the patient is that surgical exploration of a wound or removal of a foreign body does not traditionally include UV examination. Also, foreign bodies are usually kept in formalin or saline solution. It would be strange to store it in blood/serum. To be fair, I'm not a surgeon, so if one wants to correct me, please do. The lack of noted inflammatory response really doesn't mean much to me because at all because they did not include any of his medical information, so how am I supposed to know if this is unexpected for the patient? There are so many factors that could impact inflammatory response or immunologic status that this is pretty striking to leave out. Where is the histology report of surrounding tissue? How are they assessing inflammation? What level of inflammation isn't present? If pain was increasing over 4 days, that sounds like an inflammatory response - why would the pain level change if the body isn't reacting - or are we claiming aliens designed this thing to hurt? Too much relevant info is absent. "The function of the device cannot be determined with certainty from the available data, and the device may have had multiple functions and missions. Because the device was connected to Mr. Smith’s nervous system, it is likely, however, that two of its functions had to do with monitoring of the physiological state of Mr. Smith’s body, and mood/mind control." Alright - that is one hell of a claim. If you say something like this I want to know EXACTLY how it is connected to his nervous system since it is "monitoring his body/mood". This thing was in his second toe, there is no way that the basic temperature, pain, and pressure type nerves in that part of the body would be able to generate any useful info about the brain or his mood. These things are basic wires at this stage, its like saying because you are standing on your neighborhood street, you know how the exact arrangement of delivery trucks in the city. They also say his mood improved.... which is completely expected when you remove a painful foreign body. Common things are common. Though, rereading this (why am I doing this), it seems like it was just extracted in an podiatrist office setting. Even more so this was done within 4 days of the wound appearing, so this guy managed to not only convince a podiatrist that he has an alien implant but have it removed within 4 days? I'm not saying this is impossible but if you been subjected to healthcare here you'll understand its an unlikely timeframe. Unless everyone has put the cart before the horse. My take away is I just wasted a lot time and if you are gonna "publish" a creative writing paper, stay in your lane because these things always are fucking gibberish to those who know the subject matter. Edit: OP also blocked me lmao - discourse at its finest" [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dgk5fj/comment/l8txsoi/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dgk5fj/comment/l8txsoi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
op on that thread blocked me too.
I don't think so. Nolan's involvement in UFO related science is fairly recent.
What was going on with your post OP? People accusing you of being a devil worshiper?? Lol wtf was all that crazy nonsense about??
They tried to smear the scientist behind the analysis and Dr Leir with lies because they couldn't attack the science. Classic debunker tactic often called out by Stanton Friedman. Then they started attacking me for pointing that out.
Look, at the end of the day. Who really cares? Nobody knows what's going on. People want truth, and when they think they know some truth, they either realize the rabbit hole is deep or that whatever "evidence" they gave is sufficient enough to try and debunk. They feel that they have a justifiable cause for truth and that excuses them of being shitty. Sucks that it happened. Idk. Whether the info is true or not, I enjoyed it at face value but was curious to see if these implants were ever studied by Dr. Nolan.
The debunkers only come here to troll. They have no interest in the truth.
Both sides are guilty of that and it’s fucking annoying.
Leir is a well known grifter, he's been extracting these "implants" for decades but never passes any of them to the scientific community to analyze.
well corbell believes him!!! that means th… oh well.
Gary- *you have to be as smart as me to see ufos* - Nolan talks about analysing a lot of stuff, but rarely, if ever, shares his findings. The ufo grift wagon is getting full.
He shared his analysis of an object that humans probably had the technology to fabricate by 1946 and definitely did have the technology to fabricate by 1948, and he falsely claimed that because it was found in the 1950s, it must be alien, along with the lie that "humans couldn't have made it".
My question is why, when Nolan is not a physicist do people trust his physical analysis of materials? That's not his area of expertise. There is a very real possibility of Dunning-Krueger going on.
i think sometimes a successful person in one field are so arrogant they think it will translate to an unrelated field. henry ford thought he could stop ww2, even though he wasn’t a diplomat or politician or military leader, he was just a guy that sold a lot of cars.
That is literally the Dunning-Krueger effect: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger\_effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect)
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While he didn’t necessarily say it was anything to do with intelligence, when he speaks about that part of the brain he talks about it in way that makes it seem like he thinks people like him with that enlargement or whatever are special. I like Nolan, but that was a little off-putting and elitist sounding.
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Or jsut call him Garr , that's how the aliens call him. Thus they might be Ork Boyz then
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What happened to the orb?
He said provenance was bad plus he refuses to look into things without patient consent.
Do you know when he publicly stated that or what video?
I've seen so many I have no idea. He gets frequently asked about it in podcasts. I'm pretty sure he mentioned it in one of his that ufo podcast appearances.
Thanks
Can’t even read this sub…body horror #alien or anything removed from my body that is not part of the biological makeup creeps me the F out….assuming the biological makeup up in in fact non aliens lols