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The following submission statement was provided by /u/quantumcryogenics: --- UFO whistleblower attorney Daniel Sheehan (New Paradigm Institute) tells podcaster James Iandoli that he has been in contact with the secret UFO control (or legacy) group and that even those in the secret group who want disclosure do not want it out that the UFO intelligence is walking among us. Core secret. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dt2t6e/danny_sheehan_the_ufo_legacy_group_admits_they/lb6jkx7/


Forward_Jellyfish607

Walk among us in what sense? They are in another dimension but can see us and we can't see them? They are invisible to us but in our dimension? They look like us? Or are they like some ghouls walking through our back yard at 3am? So many questions...


mortalitylost

I've read a number of weird stories that they can literally cloak from your consciousness. UFOs, and even individual NHI. It seems linked to the screen memories and sorts of shit like that. Someone online was talking about how they were looking at something, and their brain kept saying "just a goose", like they felt extremely compelled to ignore it and look away. But something felt off, and like they fought their own brain and stared at it. They finally made out the outline of a small humanoid creature, which seemed startled once it recognized he actually saw through the "goose" disguise. I've read a story about a guy and his uncle driving, then they see a UFO and they're like "whoa that's a UFO", "neat", and they ignore it. Felt like seeing a bird, just completely normal. You don't think about a plane you looked at yesterday, right? You might have studied it while bored, but it's gone from memory the next day. Two days later he thought, "wtf, I saw a UFO??? Why can't I remember this? Why didn't I take a video??" He drove over to his uncle's to ask because he felt crazy, and his uncle got all startled and was like yeah it feels like a dream, but he remembered definitely something about a UFO during their drive. He was shocked too, like why didn't they care? Why didn't they take a picture? I've read a story about someone as a child seeing a UFO in the daytime. He pointed, mom look a UFO. She looked right at it, said, "that's just the Goodyear blimp honey" and ignored him. Completely ignored it. He swears he saw a UFO and that it wasn't a blimp, but at the time he was just confused because his mom didn't care. That one shocked me as I read it, because it reminded me the same fucking thing happened to me, and I completely forgot. I remember as a kid looking out at downtown San Francisco from farther away, higher elevation. It looked like I saw a massive fucking UFO, about the size of several football fields. It was massive, had lights down around it, just hovering over downtown San Francisco. I went and grabbed my mom and said mom look a UFO!! She told me "that's just the Goodyear blimp honey". I didn't remember it until I read the other dudes story. It could've been a blimp maybe, but I swear it was huge, and after reading his story I doubt it. This was before the time of smartphones so I could imagine if they did this, might be more rare these days? I don't know, I'm not completely convinced what I saw wasn't just a blimp... But after reading the other guy's story it made me wonder. "Goodyear blimp" might be a common screen memory for people. It makes you fucking wonder if this is why we don't have videos of them. Are they literally so fucking advanced they can hover over our cities and we ignore them? I've read submissions about people asking others if they have a weird memory as a kid of a hot air balloon landing in their backyard, maybe even going aboard it. It's a much more common memory than you'd think. Some people think it's a screen memory for aliens abducting children when they're young and that it might be happening a hell of a lot more often than you think. I don't know what to believe but there are a lot of stories about them cloaking from our literal consciousness. They might be literally so advanced they didnt have to worry about flying around wherever they want, because they can compel us to not care.


itsafuckingalligator

Dude I've been saying something like this! In high school, we saw a massive craft pass right over us (maybe 100 feet above) slowly and silently. We sat their in the grass watching this thing for easily 60 seconds or more and then we went "wtf was that" and then NEVER talked about it. Hit him up on FB years later, not friends or anything at that point, like "hey man, did we see something weird in the sky 4th of july or am I imagining something?" and he was like "BRO I THOUGHT I IMAGINED IT TOO HOLY SHIT" I really think whatever it is does cloak itself out of our conscious.


Horror-Science-7891

I don't know why, but this phenomenon reminds me of how beekeepers use smoke to keep the bees docile.


shroomenheimer

Now that you mention it, I use smoke to keep myself docile šŸ¤”


Inevitable_Eye_2924

This is weird because my mom and I saw one driving in the car when I was a teenager. After a few seconds she said ā€œwhat is thatā€ I said ā€œI donā€™t knowā€ and I proceeded to watch it for about 20 more minutes. I finally brought it up 25 yrs later and she tried to dismiss it at first then said yeah that was weird and it has never been mentioned again.


Vault32

Holy crap the hot air balloon- I havenā€™t thought about it in over forty years. I had this experience! I had to have been five or younger, and I remember a balloon with two people landing in our yard in rural South Georgia, middle of nowhere, late 70s or early 80s. It wasnā€™t just me but my whole family that witnessed it, as I recall. They said they were lost or off course, I think my family gave them some directions and water/snacks. They were blonde, naturally blonde with wavy or bobbed mid length hair. Couldā€™ve sworn they had accents. They showed us how the flame worked and wanted to take us kids (me and two sisters) up just a little. I know I didnā€™t want to, but I donā€™t remember if we did. Iā€™ve always been inexplicably afraid of heights, I think I know why now. I remember waving at them until the balloon was out of sight. And thatā€™s it. Holy shit Iā€™d forgotten all about this. And if you read my profile, I was also in an early gifted/GATE program called ā€˜space labā€™ Pieces are coming together


MrP00PER

Holy shit. Iā€™m up reading comments and suddenly remembered, when I was around 7 years old and visiting my grandmother in Clinton, MS. Me and some boys in the neighborhood were playing. Suddenly, a hot air balloon came sailing overhead, just an above the 1 and 2 story houses. Then it stopped. Two men in the basket asked for help, said they were out of control. My friends older brother, 15-ish was suddenly ā€œreally into hot air balloonsā€ (like every teen boy is?). He and another boy jumped in a truck and chased it. It was exciting while it happened, but I havenā€™t thought of it until now, 40 years later. Kind of related, but I was just delving into UFOs at that age. My grandmothers next door neighbor had a dark two story house and a huge fence. I wasnā€™t supposed to go over there because my grandmother said they were ā€œweirdā€. Of course I went over there! The woman had a wealth of UFO materials and other weird stuff. Said she was writing a book about UFOs and was being followed by men in black. She quizzed me about the Barney and Betty Hill incident before sharing things with me. She at one point had me watch a video on the anti-Christ.


BlackShogun27

That very last part. Damn. I'm praying so hard that there isn't a species of ET/NHI that look 1:1 like Baphomet or Horned Humans with naked forked tails. Even if these beings were peaceful observers, the uproar in Abrahamic religions would be catastrophic šŸ˜­


PublicInstruction419

Have you read "Childhood's End" by Arthur C Clarke? You might enjoy it - a classic sci-fi


grabyourmotherskeys

Re: hot air balloons - there was kind of a fad in the 70s where hot air balloons were popular and showing up on tv shows, etc. So not totally crazy that a teen would be into it.Ā  Not trying to discredit but might explain his interest.


MrP00PER

I didnā€™t know about the fad, but it definitely explains his interest. His age would track for sure.


mortalitylost

> if you read my profile, I was also in an early gifted/GATE program called ā€˜space labā€™ lmao so this is odd but GATE I know for a fact to be a weird thing... I was in it, or tried out for it at least. I was reading weird shit in these subreddits, as I do when I'm bored, and I run into this weird conspiracy about the GATE program. I'm thinking, Wait a second... I remember my mom having all these documents on it and trying to get me in... I then remember this really weird day where she drove me a bit away to take a test related to the GATE program stuff she was doing at the time. I do some interesting mind puzzles, mostly normal. I remember one where you rotate the pieces in your mind trying to find out which 3d object might be a rotation of another, normal iq test stuff. But then I remember her taking a deck of cards and she said "I want you to tell me what symbol is on the card" and she has it faced away from me. She's telling me to determine the symbol, and I get frustrated because even around that age I knew it was "weird" and I shouldn't be able to do that. I tell her I don't understand, and she just tells me to envision what it is in my mind. I shake my head and tell her, what, you mean just guess? And she's noticing I'm getting frustrated. She asks me, "you don't like this test do you" and I tell her nope, and we move on. I didn't realize at the time, but that's clearly an old telepathy test. But at that age, I was too old for it. I knew I shouldn't be able to do it, and I didn't believe in psi stuff back then. I never hear about the gate program after that. But I know for a fact some government related entity was testing telepathy in children since at least the 80s. I remember this very clearly. Why though?? Why were they trying to gather results on whose psychic? Something is fucking weird and they've been hiding some crazy shit.


Vault32

Thatā€™s what Iā€™ve been trying to figure out lately myself. And whatā€™s interesting is that others who were in these programs in the 70s 80s and 90s are all starting to remember things, and trigger memories in each other. I know I was in Gate for a few years (it was always ā€˜space labā€™ to us) but I honestly donā€™t remember how it ended or when I ā€˜got outā€™ or was aged out or something. Obviously I wasnā€™t picked to go be trained as a psychic child fighter pilot or whatever, but what was all of it for? Why drill kids with psychic flash cards, have us meditate and visualize, wear headphones and listen to weird music, beeps, static etc. what the fuck was all that?


MoreCowbellllll

> what the fuck was all that? My dumb ass is wondering if they were/are grooming potential remote viewers? Almost sounds like Stranger Things type of shit.


Vault32

When I made a post about the special program I was in an elementary school, I genuinely didnā€™t know much about it and thought it was a localized thing. So it was kind of a relief to hear that others had entered similar programs with almost identical tests, activities and big gaps in their memory about it, how it ended, or what they did during the bulk of the time that they were pulled out of normal classes for the gifted class. But then it hit me that this was happening to kids like me in the 70s 80s and 90s ALL over the country. How could something so massive remain so hidden and practically untalked about? And I had such a small rural elementary school, it doesnā€™t seem like anything that they couldā€™ve ever afforded to do ā€“ I seriously wonder if the government wasnā€™t offering some big funding incentives to these schools that were struggling if they agreed to have these special classes, where ā€œteachersā€œ from outside the school Worked with us two or three times a week for a couple years


MoreCowbellllll

I've read this story before, and maybe it was your story? I'm not sure because I read something very similar maybe 2 months ago on Reddit? No idea how this could be so widespread and also under the radar. Shit, the NHI could be the ones driving it. Maybe, for lack of better words, they have a "radar" type of thing that can identify certain abilities that they are looking for? I know that's kookie as hell but we literally have no idea.


Vault32

Also, u/morecowbellllll, some people in conspiracy were wondering if it was a government program to identify alien-human hybrids, or ufo/alien encountered children and monitor their lives from then on. Others wondered if it was a way to discover gifted/evolved/powered children and study them- then decide if they wanted to utilize them or just derail/burn them out so that they wouldnt be threats to the system. Iā€™m kind of leaning toward that theory, and Iā€™m admittedly one that got burned out on being the ā€˜smart/gifted kidā€™ and all the expectations that came with that. I did nothing with it.


MoreCowbellllll

> way to discover gifted/evolved/powered children and study them- then decide if they wanted to utilize them or just derail/burn them out so that they wouldnt be threats to the system. That is an interesting theory, even moreso given your past experience and current view. Something is going on, that is without question, IMO. There are WAY too many stories of weird happenings, interactions, etc. Not to over simplify it, but where there is smoke, there usually is fire. Side note: I've been encouraging people to read "Masquerade of Angels" for another perspective on the phenomenon. I'd be super interested in what you thought of it. You're obviously WAY more intelligent than I am, so your take on it would be appreciated. https://archive.org/details/MasqueradeOfAngels


Vault32

I wrote mine maybe a month ago to r/HighStrangeness, and someone directed me to the larger, longer post about it in r/conspiracy which led me further down the rabbit hole. Itā€™s really weird. And now to be reminded about the time a hot air balloon inexplicably landed in our backwoods Georgia yard probably around 1979 or 1980ā€¦and itā€™s something I have not thought about in forever. One of those memories you just tuck away because youā€™re so young, and it seemed so surreal. It could have been a dream honestly, or disguised as one, but it did happen to me in some form, and Iā€™ve never had even the slightest interest in hot air balloons or given them any thought except for ā€˜I would not want to do thatā€™. I wish my mom and dad were still alive to talk about it, but I should ask my sisters. Iā€™m pretty certain they were there?


MoreCowbellllll

I dont sub to either of those, but it certainly could have gotten cross-posted. It was a bit of deja-vu reading it again. It is very odd. You should definitely ask your sisters. Maybe another piece or two will fall in place.


ryannelsn

As a kid on a family trip, where (due to my obsession at the time) my entire goal was to take a photo of a ufo, I saw a suspicious cloud which began to change form after "asking for a sign". Because I was prepared with my camera already, I went to take a photo only to find the battery from my camera was completely missing. When I returned to the car, the battery was back in the camera. The battery portion of the incident weirded me out so much that I blocked it from my memory until I was reminded of it by my mom and sister this year. Combined with them shutting down aircraft sensors and camera, I've also read accounts of photos just disappearing from a person's phone after taking them. I suspect this sort happens a lot, and we ignore it because integrating it with our world view is too troubling.


mortalitylost

Exactly! This is the kind of story I've read from so many. It's like they're messing with our heads, and then "nullifying" the memory somehow. *Your Battery Is Missing, You Can't Take A Picture*, then you leave and realize it was always in your camera. And then usually it becomes a faint memory, something that has to be triggered later, like remembering an old dream. It's such a common theme that I think there's something to it.


Kalavazita

ā€œThese aren't the droids you're looking for.ā€


8ad8andit

I read that as ā€œThese aren't the *clouds* you're looking for.ā€


mortalitylost

Shit he totally got you


ryannelsn

A white rabbit also appeared during this incident, distracting us from the cloud. I now suspect that rabbit maybe was something else. It was a very strange event.


AustinJG

Any themes of owls or deer in your life?


ryannelsn

Sure, I encounter both, but nothing that seems out of the ordinary.


AustinJG

Do they appear in strange places? Like around times when you feel you may have lost time?


ryannelsn

I was briefly lost in the woods in northern Wisconsin and encountered a HUGE MAJESTIC deer. It felt like a special, peaceful encounter. But there was no missing time or anything strange. I think it was just a deer. Nothing strange with my owl encounters. They haven't felt out of place. I see them often at some trails I hike (a large park in an urban environment). They'll usually fly silently past me. But it's an area rich with small mammals and such that they can eat. There was one situation that kinda weirded me out on those same trails, though. I was tempted to mention it, but I'm certain it was just one of those situations that I weirded myself out, maybe after reading too many posts on r/GlitchInTheMatrix. I'll type it out along with another bird encounter here in a second.


ryannelsn

Actually, too lazy to type these out. To answer your question -- no, animals appear in places they belong.


welshinzaghi

lol Alice is that you


Magog14

I had a not too dissimilar experience. My sister and I recorded a ufo hovering over a lake near our house. Classic disc with pulsating colored lights around the center of it. The very next morning my father for an inexplicable reason recorded over it with footage of the back of his car.Ā 


ryannelsn

no way. he took the camcorder and recorded footage of just his stationary vehicle for no reason? ...that's also spooky


Magog14

It was exceedingly odd. My sister and I had watched it but not rewinded it. Why would we? But he must have in order to record over the footage.Ā 


mortalitylost

This is so weird. They have to be doing this shit on purpose, compelling people to erase evidence even?? So people who get abducted will often get cameras and think they're being super sneaky, catch them off guard. What they find is that they walked over and turned off the camera in the middle of the night, and don't even remember doing it.


Apprehensive-Ship-81

When I was 8 yrs old, 1987, myself and some friends saw a green orb in the sky above us. Well, it really appeared to be clear glass with a green swirling and pulsating mist inside that gave off a glow. Typical sighting stuff - dome of creepy silence, we all dumbly froze. I snapped out of being stunned and ran into my house to excitedly alert my parents. Eventually most of the neighbors came out and saw it then it just disappeared. My friends and I all discussed right after the sighting that it felt like it was looking at us and that it fucking hated us. It's so hard to explain. That's not the weird part. Later that night an early childhood memory came to me that I had forgotten. I was three or four years old, in my bed for the night just laying there in the dark. When you're that age there's new stuff to see everyday so nothing is weird. I'm laying there, I FEEL that something is at the window ( second floor ), my window is behind my headboard. I get up and turn to look out of the window and I see muki colored tiny glowing orbs dancing and spinning right outside my window. It delighted me and I was giggling. Maybe it was an intentionally false feeling projected at me but it felt like they were playing with me. Trying to entertain me and I had this overwhelming feeling of love and joy. Next thing I know I'm standing downstairs in the living room, confused and murky, my cowboy hat on and my blankie over my shoulder while my mom is shaking me to snap me out of my daze and asking me why I was downstairs and what was that loud bang she heard. I clearly remember saying to her "Its okay. Santa and his reindeer took me for a ride in the sky." I have no memory between seeing the orbs and being in my living room but I think about that every fucking day. That's not the weird part.


badassufo

whats the weird part!?


Apprehensive-Ship-81

Sorry. I doubled that. It wasn't supposed to be there again at the end of my story, ha


nullvoid_techno

Thatā€™s creepy because Santa is also Krampus the demon santa claws that steals children in bags!


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NanoSexBee

Cause they anus. Now I know itā€™s not wise to cast human emotions and psychology on NHI buuuut thatā€™s all we know, so in this case people who often reject and hate others are simply projecting their own insecurities. So maybe thatā€™s it, however for something so advance to be this emotionally immature is puzzling.


8ad8andit

In 30 years learning about this topic and reading countless eyewitness and abduction accounts, I can't remember hearing anyone say they felt they hated us until your comment today. You're talking like it's an established fact. I find this puzzling.


BloodWillow

>In 30 years learning about this topic and reading countless eyewitness and abduction accounts, I can't remember hearing anyone say they felt they hated us until your comment today. I too have felt this hatred. [Here is my testimony](https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/15958j8/revelation_an_abduction_experience/): >I could feel the beingā€™s animosity. It had no love for me and resented my attempt at communication.


MoreCowbellllll

I posted this above your comment, but have you read "Masquerade of Angels"? Please do, and I'd love to know what you think of it. It fucking scared me a bit. Scarred a little too. EDIT: I just read through your post from 1 year ago. PLEASE go read that book!


BloodWillow

I'm very familiar with Dr. Karla Turner's work, though it has been a while since I've picked up one of her books. Think I might dust it off and give it another read through, so thanks for the suggestion. What do I think of her book and research? I understand it from a deep perspective. Without going in to too much detail, at an opportune moment in my youth (12-13) I was approached by a 'light being' attempting to portray itself as a messenger of God. This all took place in what appeared to be a dream like state, in which I woke up in the dream. The interaction was basically an introduction and an offering of participation in some kind of program. It's a pretty detailed encounter in which I have documented, but haven't published anywhere. If you'd like to read it, I might be persuaded to post it.


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Apprehensive-Ship-81

I should add that I've had more positive experiences/vibes with the phenomena than not, but who knows what's up.


ryannelsn

I saw ET as a kid... [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dnwr4a/comment/la8j7r0/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dnwr4a/comment/la8j7r0/) Even though it never felt like a dream, I told myself it was. It wasn't until my sister recently shared some experiences with me that I was forced to recon with the potential implication of it.


newtonreddits

I've never had a personal experience but I like to listen to the Ryan Sprague witness accounts and one of them was a massive triangle craft (a la Phoenix lights style) that flew overhead above a drive-in theater audience. Everyone looked up, everything was dead silent and after it passed, every resumed into their normal functions as if nothing had happened and no one said anything about it. This technology is pretty incredible. I'm starting to think we're in a simulation and these things are the moderators/programmers/mechanics of the simulation.


ryannelsn

It reminds me of reports of native americans not knowing how to interpret the sails of arriving ships, or early european explorers being unable to interpret the grand canyon. they became blind to it because it couldn't fit into their worldview.


8ad8andit

Natives and early explorers became blind to sails and the Grand Canyon? I've never heard about this and my google search isn't giving me anything. Can you tell me more and maybe suggest a search term?


haptiK

owls


8ad8andit

My favorite screen memory is the deer with large eyes that looks in their bedroom window. A *white* deer and a *second floor* window.


Sandy-Eyes

That's all interesting, and I appreciate you sharing. One thing I think we can say now for sure though is that they do have to care about where it is they're flying around, or even moving as individuals, because of all the security cameras and skyline cams. At least it seems unlikely they'd be able to use screen memory capabilities on cameras. I've often thought if they're here they'd likely be able to hide pretty easily though, whether cloaking or manipulating their size, like make their ship a mosquito or shrink themselves down to a photon.


ZolotoG0ld

It's hard to know what their capabilities would and wouldn't be. They seem to be able to manipulate consciousness, identifying and disabling/manipulating primative security cameras doesn't seem that difficult in comparison. I'm pretty sure our own terrestrial security services have that capability to some degree, and think of the number of camera glitches and random going offline events that happen all the time to commercial cameras without raising much of an eyebrow. If you think about it most cameras are pointed down towards the ground anyway, there may not actually be that much need to mess with camera equipment.


PyroIsSpai

I honestly half forgot about my first experience like that, even though it was a group event. It was seeing one of the photos of the Hudson Valley sightings that brought it back.


Americaninaustria

The goose thing is familiar to my experience. I can force my mind to go there but it causes physical discomfort.


PublicInstruction419

Wow, I really appreciate you writing and sharing this. I'm especially impressed with the story of a humanoid transmitting "just a goose" to someone who happened upon them. It makes so much sense to me. I think this an area of consciousness that we still have so much to learn about. I can see this happening so clearly in my mind - I've looked at things sometimes and just found myself staring at them, like "what am I seeing right now?" and more and more lately I never can figure it out. And I've always prided myself on being able to solve visual puzzles - and I once found my sister's contact lens after it fell into a pile of leaves. :-). So now I'm a little freaked out, but I just love that story about the goose. A goose! How prosaic and perfect.


ZackJamesOBZ

To expand on this; they're possibly affecting our conscious interest on this topic. I'm personally on the spectrum, and as such, have to work harder to be an effective communicator. Which means I have to constantly pay attention to social cues etc. Especially to see if I've conveyed my thoughts in an easy to understand way to neurotypical people. With this in mind, I've found the UFO conversation to be one of the more odder experiences I had conversing with friends about. Not in the denial sense or from a lack of interest. More-so from a filtered sense. As if they heard what I said, but didn't hear it as the same time. I started to notice this, because it felt odd. Like not any of the other social-cues I'm used to getting. For example: Friends talking about politics. Me going into the UFO topic and how it's bringing politicians together. Friends nod their heads and keep talking about politics but shift the general topic. No response, no comment, not even "You're full of shit" type of response. It was really odd. They just looked at me, nodded and moved on. So, I stopped everyone and pushed it further, "Did any of you heard what I just said?" Friends: Yeah Me: What did I say? Friends: You mentioned politicians coming together. Me: ...and what are they coming together for? Friends: National security issue. Me: ....and what's the issue? They all got quiet for a moment, and one spoke up, "I'm honestly not sure. What did you say?" I repeated it again, and you could tell they were starting to process it more. Then it clicked for one of my friends, "Yo! What?! UFOs are real?!" Another said, "Oh yeah, Zack did mention UFOs!" They all thought it was odd that it didn't initially click for them either. Like their brains told them to ignore the topic all together. Only recently did I put more thought into why this happened. Again, could just be the social stigma of it etc. but the look on their faces and their nods felt so weird. Almost like brains had turned off for a moment.


mortalitylost

That is a really weird phenomenon. I believe you noticed a real thing then, if you are generally paying this much attention to their social cues and all that... It's just, I'm not even sure what the implications are if that's a significant aspect of the phenomenon. It makes the whole thing I lot more complex than most imagine. what do you take out of it? Is this a significant phenomenon that's gotten weaker or stronger in the time you've noticed?


ZackJamesOBZ

It's hard for me speculate in terms of the masses. Since my experience is limited to personal conversations and friend groups. That said, I've found that the best workaround is getting them to engage in questions. Either they're asking or I'm asking something to get the conversation really going. For example: Them: What do you think about so and so? Me: I'm honestly more concerned about what got both political parties working together. Them: Like what? Me: You didn't hear? Them: Hear what? Me: You honestly haven't seen the news? Instead of outright mentioning UPAs/UFOs, I instead get them engaged via questions as a way to perk up their brains. Then I'll bring up the topic and they're always, and I mean always, fully engaged. There's a stark difference in their reactions and overall interest. Edit: In other words, I think you can hack your way around this if there truly is an influence on us.


WonderWendyTheWeirdo

This is some crazy shit. Makes me give more thought to CE5. Also, maybe seeing through the veil is something I need to add to my meditation practice.


Optimal-Option3555

Red hot air balloons. Thousands have cover up memories of this. Not always red. But in general, the same cover up memory takes place. A hot air balloon crashes in their yard or near by. This seems to be some sort of cover up memory for an abduction or something else.


Flurnivky

That's interesting. I thought I saw one out my car window at age 10 but my mom told me it was an airplane. But I have a distinct memory of seeing a saucer-like craft hovering.


BasicNeedleworker473

When i was like 8, we pulled into the driveway and i saw what i can only remember as a bright, glowing, golden washing machine in our yard. Noone else in the car noticed or said anything. By the time we drove 2 seconds up the driveway, i had forgotten about it and didnt go look. Weird shit


Middle-Sprinkles-623

Creepily reminds me of this one time me and one of my best friends were driving down this dirt road near our old high school. It was a very low traffic street with only a few houses around which made it great for blunt ridesšŸ˜‚. The street goes completely straight for about three miles and then its a hard 90 degree left turn. As soon as we hit the turn i remember glancing down the street ahead and seeing what i can only describe as a 8 ft tall greyish black ā€œhumanoid figureā€ about 75 to 100 yds away from us. I say humanoid figure because it looked almost like a shadow in the shape of human. I find myself frustrated even trying to describe it but like, i could see four limbs, a head, and it was walking up right. I couldnt see any defining details tho. Just a greyish black blur or fuzz walking across the street. If it was a human i would see multiple colors because of clothing or hair, there would be some type of contrast. This figure was in the process of walking across the street and into an open field on the right hand side of this street. It was walking very casually imo. I got a good 10 to 15 second look at it before it disappeared from my sight after crossing the street. On the right hand side of this street that the figure was crossing into, is some type of water drainage ditch. It spans the entire length of this section of the street and ends at the next cross road which is maybe another 50 yds beyond where this figure crossed the street. At this time of year a long line of cat tails had grown in this ditch and it was pretty thick. driving next to it, u could not see through into the open field that was on the other side of it. in shock and not totally believing what im seeing i turn to my friend almost looking for reassurance that i am indeed, seeing what im seeing. Hes already looking at me with a confused look on his face. I quickly ask him what it was and he said i have no idea dude. So we speed up a little bit to see if we can see anything where we saw this figure. Where we saw it cross into this ditch there was a wide break in the cat tails and some had visibly been knocked down by something. It wasnt that far away from us so if a person walked through or any living thing, we should have been able to see it. The wooded area that it was walking towards was to far away for it to have disappeared into it before we pulled up and glanced into our limited view of the open field. Like i said it wasnt moving like it was in a rush, or stressed. Very nonchalantly. We hurry to the next crossroad ive been talking about, where the ditch and long line of cattails comes to an end and turn right. we know we will have an unfettered view of the open area in which this figured appeared to have been walking through, and want to see if we can see what it was. There is absolutely nothing in this field. Its really hard to verbalize but, If u could see an aerial view of the land scape it doesnt make sense that a human familiar with the area would be crossing this ditch into this open field. there is literally nothing there except for short grass and it turns into a heavily wooded area about 300 yds from the street. It wouldnt be necessary to walk through this nasty ditch with dirty water and weeds either. U could walk to the cross road at the end of the street which we were heading towards, and just walk around the ditch into this open field hassle free. We were genuinely creeped out a little bit when it initially happened. We talked about it on the short remaining car ride back to the crib and for the rest of the night at a small get together with a few friends. I remember when our other friends who ddnt experience it were asking what it looked like my buddy who was there with me couldnt come up with the words. I said it was big and i described it as ā€œbigfoot, but the color wasnt right and the figure almost looked blurry.ā€ Lmaoo that description makes me laugh when i think back on it. I wasnt into aliens or ufos or experiences or that type of stuff so my mind just initially didnt go there when it happened. Now when i look back i wonder if i saw something with some type of cloaking device. Its interesting too because i sometimes wonder if what i saw was its cloaking device adapting to a new environment in real time. I say this because on the side of the street in which the figure was coming FROM, is a small modern neighborhood that had recently been built. Large white picket fences, brightly colored bricked houses. A paved street that fed into dirt road we were traveling on. The colors were just all around brighter and different then the environment that it was passing into when it crossed the street. Maybe this caused the cloaking device to distort while it was adjusting to such a drastic change in its surroundings. I know the end of this rift is complete unprovable speculation but i just think ab it often and enjoy talking ab it lol. Its weird too because when i ask my friend who experienced it with me from time to time, its like he has a brain blast and cant believe he ever forgot it. This has happened several times and he instantly recounts it with me. Its not like i have to walk him through the memory. I can tell he doesnt and hasnt put nearly the thought into it i have since it happened but he always remembers when i bring it up Thanks for reading my experience!


xfocalinx

>I've read submissions about people asking others if they have a weird memory as a kid of a hot air balloon landing in their backyard, maybe even going aboard it. It's a much more common memory than you'd think. Some people think it's a screen memory for aliens abducting children when they're young and that it might be happening a hell of a lot more often than you think. Holy FUCK. I have said several time to my parents I distinctly remember getting into a hot air balloon as a kid but have no idea why. They chalked it up to a dream, or if it wasn't a dream, a carnival ride. But, no, I was in a hot air balloon.


Gralphrthe3rd

I dont know but I had a weird experience last time I was in Germany. I was at the airport and started pondering aliens and a woman about to get on the escalator stopped at the base of it and gave me a startled look, and when I looked back into her eyes she turned and quickly flew up the escalator. It gave me a weird feeling and I thought about it the whole day.


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GrillDruid

Ah that reminds me of the time I was about 4 or 5 in the late 80s and went with my parents to vote at a primary school and there was a bit of a fundraising fete. I was playing with my brother and some other kids outside while my folks voted. Then these two people dressed as clowns came into the school yard , a whole basketball court away. I thought to myself "Clowns, my little brother is going to be scared". Then they start shouting at me "Clowns? What do you mean clowns? Us? Is he afraid of clowns?". We ran all the way to the voting booth my mum was in. Like it could just be an educated guess on their part that any random kid would be afraid of clowns but it was weird they singled me out the moment I had that thought.


tangy_nachos

the fuck? You remember any of her features? Like small details? Or did she just look like everyone else


Gralphrthe3rd

She didn't look abnormal. She was slim and had brownish hair. She was attractive other than the startled look she gave me with her mouth open. Besides the glance being weird, the fact she stooped dead in her tracks the minute I started thinking about aliens really made it strange and left me feeling a little uncomfortable. In hindsight I wish i would have follow her while thinking "don't leave, its ok stop". I was thinking all day about it and wishing I would have thought that out. I don't particularly believe in the tall whites and other aliens in human disguise, but at that moment it did have me questioning everything.


tangy_nachos

What a truly abnormal experience. You know, I tend to believe you. Solely because I think us humans underestimate the power of our instincts, intuition and manifestation. Are you spiritual or maybe very open minded and positive? I have a theory that this is required to even h ave a chance of perceiving or feeling the aliens presence in some how. Or just, something that isn't there for non-spiritual people. I know i sound stupid, but hey we're just having fun here


Gralphrthe3rd

I'm not really spiritual. I have been told I have some unusual things about me though, such as my ability to remember many things starting at 4 years old. I was also surprised to learn many people can't control their dreams. Somehow i can control my dreams, while dreaming and if I wake up. I basically go back to sleep and continue on where I left off. The only weird thing I can think of other than that woman and having thoughts of a possible abduction when I was around 4 is I had a weird body episode for a week that couple have been sleep paralysis and fighting a creature. It kept happening and it seemed real as if I was never truly going to sleep. I would always open my eyes and my whole body would feel like when your hand goes to sleep. Each time (I imagined?) I was leaving my body and the little thing would be in the room. And immediately attack me. I thought I was going crazy but the last night reminded myself I can control my dreams and when it happened that night I was scared but then said "I'm bigger and stronger than you, I got you!" I grabbed it's wrists and trying putting it towards me to try to put it in a bear hug and made a crazy face as if it was scared, along with what I can only describe as a scream and floated over me and into the wall at behind my headboard. The this is I still had it's wrists and it's arms were stretching so the body could go into the wall, then it just faded away in my hands. I immediately opened my eyes and was laying on my back and while I felt paralysis, with the horrible feeling all over my body, I mentally was joyful as if I just won a fight or something. After that it never happened again though I don't dare sleep on my back . Years later I told my wife and kids. I almost had a heart attack when I was 15 and saw the cover of that book communion. I could never look directly at that books cover for some reason but always felt I had to look at it. All of this is stuff my wife and kids know about.


tangy_nachos

There it is, the lucid dreaming. I mean wtf, you were able to do it on accident as a child. That's some prodigy shit right there. Maybe you have some mutation or an additional neural pathway that allows you to easily/naturally bridge the worlds of the conscious and subconscious. What about your personality? Are you an observer or manifester? Do you find yourself noticing important small details where no one else thought to look for them? Do you find patterns and connections where many do not? I honestly think there could be something here but I'm just making up questions as i go tbh LMAO


Gralphrthe3rd

I'm not sure other than my wife tells me she doesn't know why I remember many of the things I do. I'll bring up something from a decade ago that's as minor as eating a bowel of cereal in my wife's mind but to me it's like it happened yesterday. I'll admit it sometimes sucks because if I think of the past, especially myself when I was a kid, it can cause depression. Its as if I "feel" the younger me, and I feel feelings I typically don't feel as an adult. Something as simple as a smell and I will remember smelling something similar in the 80s and can describe everything that was around me at that point in time when i originally smelled it. Just watching 80s stuff or listening to music brings up points in time back then, which usually causes depression. My wife says I need to leave that stuff alone. šŸ˜…


tangy_nachos

Observer. Totally makes sense. Well wow, Iā€™m not sure what else to ask. I feel like we got something here. Incredibly fascinating, Iā€™ll be thinking about this for some time. If I think of anything else, is it okay I come back to ask you?


Gralphrthe3rd

Sure, I don't mind. My wife and kids have heard everything a thousand times, I can tell someone else. šŸ˜…


Gralphrthe3rd

Sure, I don't mind. My wife and kids have heard everything a thousand times, I can tell someone else. šŸ˜…


MoreCowbellllll

> just making up questions as i go You're asking good questions! Ones I can relate to as well.


tangy_nachos

Thanks for the feedback! Iā€™ve been thinking about doing a podcast or yt channel that interviews Redditors with experience stories. Though, itā€™d be so hard to filter out fakes


OneThird_Life_Crisis

FYI it does sound like you have some natural abilities. Not only that but it also sounds like you had an encounter with what is known as the ā€œguardian of the thresholdā€, which is like a psychic entity (perhaps even generated by your own subconscious), whose purpose is to ā€œtestā€ you when you are between the physical and non-physical, for lack of better terminology. It tries to scare you and if you succumb to fear then you arenā€™t ready and you will choose to go back to your body. But if you ā€œdefeatā€ it in some way then you may be able to proceed further. This is just my understanding based on my research, I have no personal experience in this matter.


solarpropietor

See Iā€™ve only lucid dream maybe once or twice. Ā Last time I lucid dreamed an entity first disguised as a human was following me and challenged me/made threats. Ā Long story short I tried to get away. Ā Until I got fed up and attacked it. Ā It started running away but I could fly faster than it. Ā And when I got a hold of it, I had to fight through some sort of paralysis (in dream) but I broke through that, and right as I was to smash its head into the ground. Ā I woke up. Ā Like immediately woke up. Ā Definitely no proceeding further for me. Ā More like gtfo from dream world. Ā  Between sleeps, I noticed a small dark shadow, could have been the cat except it was bigger. Ā When I noticed it, it panicked and I woke up again. Just regular dreams since then.


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tangy_nachos

There are CIA studies that prove most human's are capable of this. Very interesting you just happened upon it... Can you explain the moments before it happened? I might be able to discern a cause


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tangy_nachos

Okay! :D


IcyAlienz

Telepath. There's human ones too. I've found a couple. You think stuff then they stop what they're doing and look directly at you. I always play it like "ok so you heard me, your move now, you gonna admit it, wanna talk about it, ever tried honesty?" this puts them defensive as 1. they don't like to talk about it, ever. 2. gets them to mind their own business and stop telepathically eavesdropping on you They already are on the moral LOW ground since they're secretly listening to people thinking, don't take any shit from a telepath, alien or otherwise.


Mj648

Yup they quite literally mean ā€œwalking among usā€ heā€™s not the only one whoā€™s said this. Robert bigelow said they were ā€œright under our noses the whole timeā€. Most likely in disguises


Weekly-Assignment-88

Perhaps UAPs possess the capability to traverse the cosmos, and upon discovering a habitable planet with humanoid inhabitants, they create avatars based on the genetic makeup of that species. These Non-Human Intelligences (NHI) could be essentially immortal, enabling them to influence and guide the evolution of beings on these planets. By integrating themselves into the local ecosystem and mimicking the dominant species, NHIs could play a pivotal role in shaping civilizations, potentially being perceived as deities or advanced entities by the native populations. This interaction might be a method for NHIs to study, guide, or even control the development of intelligent life across the universe.


TadTales

After reading The Prince by Machiavelli...keep people busy so they don't have time to think.


Evwithsea

My comment from a previous, similar thread-- After reading the post of the DoD paper and how they believe people who have contact are actually not "real" humans but a type of AI made from NHI, almost like a sleeper agent. (I am butchering this completely, just go check the thread out) Ā These people think they're normal just like the rest of humanity, that's just not the case. The implications would be astronomical. That's what Bigelow was talking about, saying "they walk among us" and it would be the biggest scandal in history times a million. That it would uproot society as we know it. That's my opinion, because that's the only thing that I think would be extremely impactful. Most of society already believes in "aliens". Truth is stranger than fiction.Ā 


sumosacerdote

Could not find this DoD paper post. Do you have a link?


BasicLayer

What if it turns out that only *certain* ethnic groups are in fact NHI or NHI-adjacent, genetically/spiritually? Oof.


eschered

Do you know the character [Q from Star Trek Next Gen](https://youtu.be/zTPRgg4pwgM)?


GutsyMcDoofenshmurtz

Apparently Tom DeLonge thinks Bill Clinton is a 9ft Lizard creature.


8ad8andit

Really? Where did you hear that? I can't find any reference to it online.


Ketonian_Empir3

We could make some kickass ghoul traps. Ooh man that would be fun!


HumanOptimusPrime

How are you convinced that other dimensions exist?


Biotrek

How are you convinced it doesn't? Reality is so odd and we understand so so so so little of it that the chances of somehting like that exixting is much more likelly than not.


HumanOptimusPrime

From first principle, the only thing I know is that an apparent *I* exist, and that the world around me, and my thoughts, dreams and experiences of qualitative phenomenon are available to my interpretation. There is nothing that gives rise to the notion of other dimensions, because I donā€™t even have direct access to the trueness of living in *a dimension*.


Riboflavius

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but that doesnā€™t hold. Non-existence is always the default, because even something as general as ā€˜multiple extra dimensions that we havenā€™t seen yetā€™ requires the world/universe to be one of a limited set of possibilities versus all possible configurations.


StrongCommittee9759

At breakfast one morning I mentioned to my wife a dream that I had. In my dream, I woke up and went to the bathroom in the middle of the night. While in the bathroom, the whole room lit up like daylight. I climbed over the bathtub to look out the window. As I did, I saw my wife glance at me as she walked down the hallway towards the living room, which had a sliding glass door to the backyard. When I saw her pass me, I joined her in walking to the living room where we saw our roommates and our roommates 8 year old daughter standing in the backyard staring up at the sky. I did not see any objects, but everything outside was brighter than daylight. As I was describing my dream, my wife stopped me to tell me about her dream. She dreamt she woke up the the room being as bright as daylight. She walked towards the living room to see what was happening. As she passed the bathroom she noticed that I was standing on the bathtub, looking out the window. She continued into the living room where she saw our other roommates standing on the patio and staring into the sky. That was her ā€œdreamā€. The same events from a different perspective. This was 1986 and we were living in Las Vegas.


WinterCool

Fuuuuuck, gives me the shivers


bring_back_3rd

Can confirm. Am currently at a mall and I'm sure at least a few of these people are aliens.


lazypieceofcrap

Who else would go to the mall? They used the aliens, disguised as humans, to make places look busier than they are. /s.


bring_back_3rd

My optometrist is in the Lenscrafters lol. Otherwise, I'd have no business there.


lazypieceofcrap

Last time I went to a mall was in 2013 and was for an optometrist. Half the US away. Aliens there now. I just avoid.


Dangerous_Fan1006

I see them everywhere living in Southern California


laughingdoormouse

Iā€™m sure Robert Bigelow said that very same thing during an interview.


Unique_Driver4434

Yes, he's the inspiration. Him saying that on Joe Rogan was likely the motivating factor in Harvard suggesting it might be possible and the motivating factor in others saying this now. Not the first to suggest such a thing (e.g. They Live), but him saying it and James Fox repeating what he said is likely what is bringing this renewed attention to the concept.


laughingdoormouse

Well said my friend I agree with you


MagusUnion

I mean, my opinion on humanity is pretty low. So I'd rather take interacting/co-existing with the NHI at this point compared to the shit fest society that exists now.


8ad8andit

Humans don't respond well to abuse. Our minds are pretty delicate in some ways, and if you lie to us our entire lives and work hard to isolate and alienate us from others, it does bring out the worst in us.


MagusUnion

Nah fam. From my neurodivergent experience most of humanity suffers from a dramatic lack of humility, an unconscious 'main character' complex, and a severe fear of the unknown/different. This is more than just "hurt people, hurt people" logic. Humanity constantly tries to put itself in the 'center of the known universe' when it's far too large and vast for that nonsense. And idk if the hubris is due to the species being in its infancy compared to others, or a defect with evolving as socialized primates as they have.


prrudman

Just once, maybe something like this could come with the why. Why do they not want it out there? Maybe I would agree with them.


Yesyesyes1899

this is the big elephant in the room for me : close surveillance by aliens posing as humans. if this is true, this is paranoia inducing. i m happy nobody gives a shit about me. i would appriciate to know if someone i knew was an alien. thats just manners. 2. do they then control us ? is this planet in this stage , their design ? troubling questions.


HumanOptimusPrime

You might as well start freaking out about the possibility of you being in a *The Truman Show* scenario.


showmeufos

The best surveillance system would be a NHI that looked human that didnā€™t even know it wasnā€™t human so it could never out itself as nonhuman and ruin the secret. Itā€™d fully think it was a normal human, if doctors cut it open theyā€™d think it was human, but itā€™d be somehow surreptitiously sending back telemetry to the NHI. Fully integrated into human society as a real human, can go anywhere a human can, and reports everything back in realtime. Maybe itā€™s you.


Seeeab

can't be me, I just wanna stay home and play videogames and pet my cats. Worst telemetry bot ever


Silver_Jaguar_24

But you're busy monitoring online spaces like Reddit, reading and reporting on what humans think of ET. Haha.


Seeeab

Damn you're right. I'm also collecting a ton of information on competitive pokemon and WoW talent builds for classes in the upcoming expansion. I guess i do some pretty good telemetry after all šŸ˜Ž


GortKlaatu_

Just wait for the other shoe to drop when they tell you that some of them are physically human but the soul is alien and has no idea. It's the only way to get the human experience. It's coming.


kosmicheskayasuka

What if our consciousness is the consciousness of aliens, which was placed in human bodies, but we forgot about it?


ComplimentaryScuff

This is literally what Scientologists believe


TheSnatchbox

Like Lazar saying the NHI consider us "containers".


ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

You said you wanted the full experience, "full immersion"


pizzae

This is the worst video game I've ever played and all I think about all day is leaving this planet to join the aliens because life sucks and I'd feel more fulfillment, meaning and belonging by being with the aliens and exploring the stars


8ad8andit

What if alien consciousness is hijacking human bodies while the human person is still inside the body? Haven't you noticed that there are competing interests within your own mind? There is the part of you that wants to eat healthy and work out, and the part of you who doesn't, etc? Sure, it might just be psychology, but what if..?


WinterCool

Could be, or all of what we think our humanity is, is the alien consciousness and our animalistic impulse's is the mammalian human in us. What makes us so different than every other creature on the planet? Alien consciousness šŸ‘½šŸ¤™


Polyspec

This is basically Christian theology re-told with different words.


Yesyesyes1899

thats ,right now , " too out there " for me. i m open to the mechanics of reality being different than we think. but " alien souls that dont know and think they are human " ? that sounds like a complicated lore.


CosmicMagicCarpet

This is actually in line with a lot of eastern spirituality. We are all god, but have intentionally forgotten, and live our lives in these human ā€œcontainersā€ in order to see the universe in wonder, and more importantly to grow spiritually.


8ad8andit

Pretty standard lore for much of the world for thousands of years actually. And I'm sure you believe in equally complicated and unsubstantiated things without realizing it.


Gold-Web-2928

Yep, beings that canā€™t experience as many emotions as us could be transferring their consciousness into human bodies so they can experience love, hate, etc. The black box often seen by abductees seems to be capable of moving oneā€™s consciousness out of their body and into a new one. Thatā€™s the key to understanding the reincarnation trap. Tom DeLonge has talked about how the NHI possess this ability.


GortKlaatu_

I got downvoted, but I'm positive this is the next phase and where this group is headed. All of this has happened before.


Boonshark

Didn't expect a BSG quote here. So say we all


GortKlaatu_

I love that show!


ryannelsn

Call me crazy, but I suspect this dude may be onto something: [https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=fDurCS0AAAAJ&hl=en](https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=fDurCS0AAAAJ&hl=en) Check out this paper specifically (directly linking didn't work. click the pdf link after visiting the page): [https://scholar.google.com/citations?view\_op=view\_citation&hl=en&user=fDurCS0AAAAJ&cstart=100&pagesize=100&citation\_for\_view=fDurCS0AAAAJ:UebtZRa9Y70C](https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=fDurCS0AAAAJ&cstart=100&pagesize=100&citation_for_view=fDurCS0AAAAJ:UebtZRa9Y70C)


Dirty_Dishis

Yeah...bruh that guy cites himself and writes his "papers" like a teenager brainstorming a sci-fi novel they will never write. Like literally. The only people who have ever cited any of his work is himself! Seems like he just started calling himself "Doctor" and thought if I publish a bunch of tripe that means he is a Phd without going to school. Not calling you crazy, definitely calling him crazy.


ryannelsn

Oh, he very well may be. He also might just be ahead of the curve (somehow).


8ad8andit

Calling people crazy has become this lazy trend which usually means, "I don't understand."


GoarSpewerofSecrets

Now, I'm gonna tell you why an alien wouldn't do that walking around as a spy thing. Humans have shaved an orangutan for prostitution. What does this have to do with a caught alien? Nothing, also everything, because humans are awful and that alien has an orifice somewhere.Ā 


JForce1

If you don't have any evidence, you shouldn't talk about it either.


doxwhite

All Danny Sheehan ever does is make spectacular claims and then provide 0 evidence. I'm disappointed posts like these are getting upvoted to the top.


Murky-Hat1638

None of these subreddits would exist if evidence was required to talk about this phenomenon


JmoneyHimself

I donā€™t have evidence either, but Iā€™ve seen 4 up close UFOs and 2 shapeshifters; NHI disguised as human šŸ„øwhether this guy has evidence or not he actually is accurate about NHI existing among us in my opinion. You can even make initial contact with NHI yourself through consciousness/telepathy, so thatā€™s even more evidence which is free and anyone can do it.


animus1609

I am so tired about all that people with their fantastic storys and not one of them can prove anything their saying.


HistoricalAnimator64

Iā€™ve said this before. Part of me thinks that a good portion of our population has non human DNA and doesnā€™t know it. Revealing this would lead to stigmatization, separation, and ā€˜us against themā€™ warfare.


StressedAsAlways00

Cool story but its not a new claim, and we got zero evidence


boukalele

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE EVIDENCE! (apparently)


sucrerey

somehow this will make one of my cousins even more racist....


Unique_Driver4434

lol he's such a BS'er. If he thought that they were truly "walking among us," that would be the imperative to talk about. That would be all over his discussions because that's clearly a major deal and much more alarming than all the other things he talks about, like "One of the whistleblowers Im representing said a craft was small outside but the size of a football stadium inside." No. Before even getting into that he would have discussed them walking among us in all his interviews. That takes priority over any other stories.


Mundane-Concern5424

It's sad to see people are still paying THAT much attention to Danny Sheehan and his claims. He's brought nothing but rumors and it's funny that people which are so convinced that UFOs are not ETs still believe him.


Preeng

He also sells PhD courses in "extraterrestrial studies" for $15k https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/graduate-degree-programs-in-extraterrestrial-studies/ He's a grifter.


tarkardos

Imagine spending 15K just to ruin your career lol


brachus12

isnā€™t this the plot of Sugar?


PickWhateverUsername

OR ... "Resident Alien" ... :D


clva666

Or mr. Bean


ThinDealer3863

Sheehan seems to know a lot about this topic but rarely actually shows you anything. He's no different to Coulthard for me.


Gold-Web-2928

I remember when he name-dropped Grusch and Nell before they went public.


NewRequirement7094

Source on that?Ā  I don't recall that at all


Boonshark

It's true. Sheehan leaked his name, by mistake it seems. [Here's the post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/NybMw4wF3E) where I discovered this.


NewRequirement7094

Wow, thank you!! I have not given Sheehan enough credit.


AdNew5216

Lmao yep. Sheehan is in the know.


superfsm

When and where? please


Boonshark

It's true. Sheehan leaked his name, by mistake it seems. [Here's the post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/NybMw4wF3E) where I discovered this.


omnompanda77

It's not their job. It's congress's job.


PickWhateverUsername

So Sheehan is privy to all of this info and yet the people who tell him this can't publicly say it ? So telling one person is ok Telling people on a massive scale is a big nopy because that would be against secrecy acts and all that. makes sense.


Circle_Dot

Dude, read this sub. Hell, just read this thread. So many people just blindly believe anything that remote matches their current paradigm of thinking regardless of truth or facts.


Any_Interaction_3658

This always bugs me. Like ā€œIā€™m going to honor this secret and take it to the grave like Iā€™ve been instructed. I know the implications of telling the public (and apparently donā€™t think theyā€™re compelling enough to spill the beans)ā€¦but you know what, youā€™re a nice guy, Iā€™ll tell you.ā€ - The nice guy being someone who, ostensibly at least, is specifically pushing to publicly disclose that very info. Which seemingly was a no-no to the source, evidenced by, you know, them never saying anything. Idk, just have been discouraged lately I suppose.


Circle_Dot

This is a completely reasonable conclusion that all normal people come to. It's very odd. - I can't tell anyone for fear of my life or livelihood - I'm just going to now tell this one guy - This one guy regularly speaks to the public about this topic - This guy sometimes accidentally reveals names and sometime can't help dropping breadcrumbs that could possibly lead to my identification - I'm going to tell the guy who speaks to the public to pinky swear not to reveal any information because I might die or go to jail. - This guy constantly talks about how he is privy to top secret classified information Mfw the government never gives a fuck about any of these so called journos claims. If the gov kills people over this, why the fuck would they not "get" to these clowns. They dont even have to kill them, they could easily threaten them or pay them off. These fucks are either part of the conspiracy or full of shit. My money is on the shit.


BrewtalDoom

He doesn't know shit. But he has a good collection of stories he's amassed over the years.


Most-Friendly

"Something big is coming." ^TM


str8uppok3r

I and about 5 other people saw a metallic sphere suspended in the air maybe around 2001 or 2002. It was doing something weird, because we couldn't tell if it was getting closer, or if it was getting bigger. I always said to myself that that thing was messing with our perception, but I remember corroborating in the moment with everyone what they were seeing and they described what I was seeing too. This was at work and it's a long story but in short, I knew that 2 other people maybe had the chance to look at it because I knew their positions relative to the object so I asked them, they said 'yeah we've been looking at it for a while now!' Fast forward to this year when all of this has been gaining so much traction and I decided to explore my own experience. I tracked down 2 of my old co-workers via Facebook and asked them about that incident, but they don't remember a thing. I was like WHAT?! This experience punctuated my life in a way because even though I always had an interest in the subject, from that moment on I "knew", you know? Nobody can take that away from me, I know what I saw type thing. So how come the others can't even remember it? The tourists I had with me (this was a zip line tour, I was the guide) had a camcorder and I know they filmed it, but it is impossible for me to track them down. We didn't exchange emails or anything so that's long gone. All of this to say, I think like many people here that they have the ability to cloak their objects and or mess with our perception too. It would not be a stretch to say that the being themselves can too.


NeilArmsweak

Sorry, but I'm still waiting on the catastrophic disclosure you guys were speaking nearly a year ago. Daniel Sheehan is looking slightly grifty in those eyes, to me. Prove me wrong. I seriously would like some useful insight, for once.


bclarkified

People actually still take this guy seriously? Chriiiist


brevityitis

This entire thread is just fantasy jerk off time for people. People taking an idea to confirm their own beliefs and make their fantasy conspiracy become true.Ā 


hacky374

Danny sheehan:they donā€™t wanna talk about it Seconds later Danny sheehan:i can not talk about that


Topsnotlobber

I cannot take this man seriously, I just can't. Can he please just stop talking and let the congressional route play out? I'm so tired of the constant nothingburgers wrapped in explosive claims.


HarryBeaverCleavage

I think what would really trip people out is if we realize that Earth is an NHI/alien planet, and they brought humans here from our actual planet somewhere else in the galaxy, which could explain the talks about another dimension or parallel universe.


BreadClimps

just throwing out the entirety of evolutionary biology, i see. bold move.


i_love_cocc

Thatā€™s just not the case. We have a pretty clear evolutionary tree


Circle_Dot

And they kept the world in the dark to what end?


tellmewhenitsin

*hits bong* fuck yeah dude. WE'RE the aliens bro. Joking aside, I feel that scenario is pretty unlikely given our fossil record and having such close cousins here on Earth.


MrRob_oto1959

That explains Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert. Those ā€œpeopleā€ donā€™t human very well at all.


Pure-Contact7322

Legacy group what is this


digidigitakt

I think ā€œclaimā€ is more accurate. Some people ā€œclaimā€ they walk among us.


Professional-Case958

Iā€™ve been invited on a few podcasts now to discuss these things which Iā€™ve never done before so I turn them down, I normally leave that stuff to my brother who is highly regarded in this field. but has anyone had a dream about certain words and when searched it comes from a certain region in the world (if you know your stuff you can probably guess where) it kinda freaked me out as this word itā€™s translated to death and 1 week later I broke my leg in 2 places.


TerribleChildhood639

Dr. David Jacobā€™s has written several books from the late 80s through the 2000s reporting this. Nothing new here.


Dr_Griller

Yeap, at least Walmart is full of representatives of different species.


jim_jiminy

Who are the ufo legacy group? Just a bunch of guys?


Meatgardener

A made up name just to hook gullible people.


jim_jiminy

We should make the ufo legacy collective. Fuck those guys.


Internal_Prompt_

Can I interest you in the legacy ufo group, which is much better than the ufo legacy group?


PlasmaWatcher

Sheehan knows 0.