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NoStructure5034

Yes, it's called wallbanging. You can shoot through some walls/objects to deal reduced damage to an enemy behind it. There are different materials, some that can be penetrated easily (wood and radianite crates), and some that cannot be penetrated easily (concrete). Guns also have different levels of penetration (Spectre has low penetration while Guardian has high penetration).


EdgeAdditional4406

The crates contain radianite?


Dankie_Spankie

Yes, that’s the whole reason we’re trying to plant the spike and extract it. The spike is some sort of a teleportation device or something. So the attackers are invading another version of earth and stealing their radianite.


therefi__

If Riot made a Valorant movie, that statement would make more sense 😭 that shit was confusing to read


hidemysoul

Watch all the cinematics it'll make sense


therefi__

Ah, yeah i forgot about the cinematics…


Da_Doughnut

Definitely watch them though. The lore is great.


IdixtEliza

i wish there was more though, the lore is the only reason i play the game lol


just_a_random_dood

Radianite is kinda like MCU's vibranium. "Super rare and powerful material that does whatever the story needs it to be done and people from multiple realities want to fight over a small supply of it"


therefi__

By people from multiple realities, you mean the vast amount of agents fighting to obtain Radianite?


Alphadef

Its more side based than agent based. To summarize, there are two parallel earths (usually referred to as Alpha and Omega). Alpha earth is our earth, where our Valorant Protocol agents originate from. Every agent in the game is a current member of the Valorant Protocol and all of them come from our earth (Kay/O is a bit of an edge case as he comes from an alternate timeline). In universe however, there is a parallel earth (Omega earth) which has mirror versions of every agent, who all are members of the Valorant Legion. Now each earth is not 100% identical. The agents are visually the same, but don't always seem to have the exact same personality, nor the exact same history. For example, we know that the recruitment order in each universe isn't the exact same (Our universe's sage is agent 7, theirs is 10). Omega's Valorant operates in the open more akin to like a justice league or avengers while ours operates more covert. The in game conflict occurs as a struggle for control of Radianite, which Alpha earth is only recently starting to understand the value of while Omega earth has known for a while and is running short. The majority of maps have Omega earth as the attackers attempting to steal radianite from alpha earth, with the exception of Lotus and Pearl which are the inverse as counter attacks from Alpha. This is why on Pearl has *orange* radianite crates instead of the green of every other map (lotus is a bit weirder lore wise).


NeoMythic123

The cinematic for lotus also shows alpha team going into a gift shop where the omega team is seen as heroes almost like overwatch agents when they were still accepted as such, its really cool to learn about


Alphadef

Precisely, though I will mention that that is Pearl, not Lotus. If I'm not mistaken all the 'comic book' player cards are Omega universe comics.


NeoMythic123

Right Idk why I said lotus lol I need to lay of the weed


just_a_random_dood

Yeah, the earth we live on and a different earth that created a portal to come here and steal our radianite because they're running out Or something like that. I think... xD


dreamvalo

There's alpha and omega earth, each one is a mirror of each other and when you play a game that has two Phoenix's, for example, it would be Omega Phoenix fighting against Alpha Phoenix. The Chamber lore does the best to explain it imo since in lore, the two Chambers collabed together and is the reason Fracture exists. Fracture is a map that shows both Alpha and Omega earth.


ThatSwaggyGuy

Wait shit that's Fracture's lore? God and with how much I dislike that map, now that's some cool lore...


dreamvalo

I hate Chamber as an agent but love him as a character in the lore as a two-timing weapons dealer lmao. It definitely helped me during hard fracture games. Fun fact both chambers setups and tour-de-force gun cases from where they destroyed the collider are located on the map in game, one is behind the satellite dish on attacker spawn the other is behind the alpha sector sign on attacker bridge. You have to be in a custom and ghost to see them, but they are there.


SerIlyn

That is also why the boxes are different colors on each site for Fracture. I believe the green boxes are alpha earth and the orange are omega earth. Most maps are omega attacking alpha, except fracture (split half and half) and Pearl (alpha attacking omega).


therefi__

Ngl, if that whole storyline would be a full movie you could watch at the theatre or on Netflix, I’d watch it


Rookie007

You can just watch all the cinematics in a row and get 80% of that information the last 20% is in text / in game lore


Crowfooted

There aren't vast numbers of them, there's just Valorant (the organisation), but there's two alternate reality versions of Valorant.


DjinnsPalace

theres only 2 realities though unlike mcu


wkhardt

dude i thought radianite was the enemy faction because of gekko saying "why cant we just hug it out? damn radianite" as if the enemy was too evil to cooperate


just_a_random_dood

LMAO nah it's Alpha earth and Alpha characters vs Omega earth and Omega Characters I totally understand your confusion though haha


Casscus

Really? It makes perfect sense imo


UnpunishedRenagade

I heard somewhere they plan on making a series like arcane with valorant, and i pray to whatever god hears me thats true


imhungrytho

I'm not english native and I had to read it like 10 times to understand lmao


depresseddeviil

I can recommend this video! Made it mcuh clearer for me :) https://youtu.be/AKeCPclpnyI?si=aY5vl98x-uGfrKuD


EdgeAdditional4406

Why do you die from getting spiked instead of teleported


Zaillyo

It isn’t just a teleportation machine. It absorbs radianite from its surroundings then violently teleports back to its earth. The detonation tears apart the fabric of reality or something. Ascent takes place on a floating island created by the spike detonation in the Duelists cinematic.


interfaceTexture3i25

Seems like sloppy writing to me. It would've made more sense had they just stuck to the bomb-terrorist-anti terrorist scene of CS


DjinnsPalace

because its more interesting than "theyre just terrorists"


interfaceTexture3i25

It's more confusing lol


Crowfooted

Presumably organic matter cannot survive the teleportation process. It's specially designed for radianite. Edit: Ask Killjoy I guess, because she invented it.


Itsyaboibrett

from what I understand it violently condenses everything into a small transportable single thing. so it’s like a baby black hole for a second


Dankie_Spankie

Good question. No clue.


Memulon

Hey, here to answer having studied it, the spike is essentially an antimatter bomb, it blows up and absorbs any radianite caught in the blast zone. It then stores the radianite inside the spike for bringing back to base. Up until recently, the attackers were always from Earth Omega (we're Earth Alpha), but Pearl was the introduction to Omega, and, if I'm not wrong, Abyss is also on Omega, but I'll have to look into that more. I have a lore doc I need to continue working on.


DjinnsPalace

While Alpha is the one attacking Abyss, the base itself is also on Alpha. no idea why omega agents are there though.


Memulon

They're probably both gunning for high radianite areas. If Abyss has a high focus, then it could be extra help for the world. Currently, most of the world runs on radianite for power, so whoever gets that from Abyss can use it for their own purposes.


WalkingInsulin

And if you’re curious to see what it looks like post detonation, go to the training map.


nea_is_bae

If there's this many crates of radiante laying around why do the fuckers charge so much for it in the shop


DjinnsPalace

heres a fun fact for you: the radianite crates have different colors depending on the universe they are in, so the crates on pearl are yellow, meaning they are on omega earth


NoStructure5034

Yeah


BreafingBread

Hijacking top comment to say: You can tell if something is wallbangable just by shooting it. If the shot goes through, it shows a bullet hole. If it doesn't, it shows a bullet mark, but no hole. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mZkF-rrJms4/maxresdefault.jpg In this picture you can see what I'm talking about.


RentLast

yes, well, depends on the wall surface. If it's soft definitely bangable with Low-Medium penetration, if it's hard you cant unless with a high penetration weapon (Sheriff, Outlaw, Odin, Operator and Guardian) also depend on the angle you can wallbang through hard surfaces but that's another topic


Toripistef1

Ares is high penetration too


therefi__

LMAO, you should be proud to know that you’re not the first new player to say this.


MiniLinnieSc

For reeeeal. Wait until he discovers the ghost bug lol


imhungrytho

what is a ghost bug ? 😢


Coocooa11

Pretty sure theyre referring to when you can only see the person’s gun. Very annoying bug. I think some people know how to trigger it intentionally, but Idk that much about it


therefi__

Yeah I’m new, don’t know the bug either but I knew you could shoot through stuff by watching Grimm, Kyedae and Tenz.


Frig-Off-Randy

Ghost bug?


KhaiDT

Omen bug?


Serito

When I first heard about the ghost bug I didn't believe it


DaWheeGod

What ghost bug?


LegendOfSarcasm_

Just yesterday it was a 1v1 and he was below me. My teammates kept telling me to wallbang, and I was just like that cat meme. "Huh?????"


kaladinissexy

Fr, they really should put it in the tutorial. 


No-Disaster-7215

I was gonna say that that’s dumb and everyone should know wallbanging is possible because it is in every game to some extent but I guess if this is your first shooter ever you wouldn’t have even had that thought or experience. And Val IS a lot of people’s first shooter.


kaladinissexy

Most fps games don't have wallbanging, it's mostly just a tactical shooter thing. 


therefi__

not mine. call of duty was my first fps - old cod like mw2/mw3 days


franksfries

Most corner walls are wall bangable. Wooden walls are wall bangable. Some guns like vandal, odin, ares, guardian, sheriff, Op can wall bang through thick solid walls. There are common angles that people hold that you can wall bang that would catch them off guard. There's also spots at the start of the round that you can immediately spam with a guardian where someone would most likely hold. It's good to know these areas.


notConnorbtw

Just tk let you know. Vandal has less penetration than the rest of the guns you listed. I think the outlaw is heavy pen but i might be wrong.


Sure-Ad-5572

Vandal is medium and Outlaw is high, yes.


franksfries

You're right, vandal can only go through thin walls. I forgot to say that lol


F1END

And phantom. Often players think that there's a difference but when it comes to penetration, there isn't.


notConnorbtw

It feels wrong that they have the same pen. But yeah. I guess it's cause I associate phantom to m4a1s in cs which I think has less pen than ak47


therefi__

If the outlaw is not heavy pen, that’s a crime. A sniper is stronger than any other gun. It should have it


notConnorbtw

Marshal is medium pen that's why I was wondering... But someone confirmed for me.


SethQuantix

If marshal was heavy pen the game would be complete and utter chaos.


notConnorbtw

Ik. Would be epic


Shjvv

Note that you dont need to remember that shit if youre on the move/in action, just tell yourself every wall is bangab...shoot through-able and stop if you cant. Saw enough pros just go "oh that wallbangable" after a nutty shot and realize stopping to think if it your gun gonna pen or not isnt the right way.


urstupid99

Anyone else find this a little cute? Brings me back to when I first started playing COD and CS years ago lol


The_titos11

Thank you everybody 👍now I at least know this extra step that I can do. I STILL have yet to use my Hero coin on someone still trying to find a good hero


Advanced_Currency_18

Look up "sova odin ace" and you'll probably find a lot of videos of popular wallbang spots. One is on Ascent. this would probably catch tons of people off guard on console


Warrlock608

Cheesing people on Ascent is one of my favorite things to do in this game. Either scan/wallbang B or scan/ult A. Easy 2-3 kills to start a round if they aren't paying attention.


QuadWitch

Note that if you shoot through the wall you see a different hole than when it doesn't penetrate, there are also a few walls you can penetrate but there's something behind it blocking it after, so it wouldn't actually hit anyone behind it. Also, the thickness and angle makes a huge difference, so the damage when shooting straight through thin walls is higher than shooting it from the side.


Suk-Mike_Hok

Not all walls are made out of paper, but a lot of them are. Make sure to know which walls you can shoot through. Also make sure which boxes you can shoot through.


Kingsayz

Shoot a corner in practice tool, when the holes are Black it means penetration


june_47

If it isn't already mentioned in the comments , you can visually see if your bullets are penetrating or not. Dark holes means bullets are penetrating, light dents means not penetrating and there are several levels of penetration depending upon the material or thickness of the object you are shooting through. And ofcourse the damage will be reduced even at maximum penetration


a1rwav3

Depends on what wall/object and your weapon penetration level.


g1itch3dboi

with this info, have fun attacking Ascent B site against a Sova


DjinnsPalace

if the bullet hole is black, your bullet passed through the wall.


Ok-Ask8593

Waiting for the day you go against a Sova on defense on Ascent lol


Serisuwu

when u go into the buy menu and u hover over the guns u can see the wall penetrative levels of each gun, a stinger for example has a low wallbang penetration meaning it can only shoot through some walls and will not deal much damage at all. an odin on the other hand has high wallbang and will deal more damage and be able to penetrate thicker walls. Vandal and phantom have medium penetration. u will have to just keep playing to keep figuring out what u can wallbang with which guns, maybe u can go into a custom game alone just to have a look :)


ANONX1406

There are few 🧱 walls in games and objects which let the bullet pass its called wall banging by the time you will also come to know which walls are those and objects .


MordecaiXLII

The history of firearms begins in 10th-century China, when tubes containing gunpowder and pellet projectiles were mounted on spears to make portable fire lances, operable by one person.


mtnlol

Since the original Counter-Strike


CloroxWipes-

Surfaces that show black bullet holes when you shoot them are wall bang-able.


Petercraft7157

This is me 2 days after playing the game. Me: "How the fuck did I die. This guy is hacking he shot me behind a wall" Team: "Em actually that's part of the game" Me: "WHAT"


Kerby233

Since forever, you just have to have a big enough gun, in Valorant since beta release and irl.


zrebhi

Not only walls , but also Boxes ( wood box or green box)


KhaiDT

You are gonna love the Odin! Literally my aim sucks and I'm in plat, and all i do is spam smokes and walls and somehow that's worth 149 damage


The_R3d_Bagel

Yeah, the walls in this game are made of paper fr


mylanmylanmylan

When buying a weapon at the start of the round you can see what level of penetration it has! Some are better at shooting through objects while some are worse!


Phenotyx

There’s even an additional indicator on the kill feed if you died from a penetration (wallbanged) shot vs a normal shot. Just the gun (vandal, sheriff, etc) means body shot kill, reticle + gun = headshot If there is a symbol of a Bullet piercing / breaking an object as well as the other symbols (gun, reticle) that means it was a wallbung


leagueAtWork

Whats more different walls need different penetration. On the top right when you buy guns it will tell you light, medium, and heavy penetration. You can tell what is wall bangable when you shoot the wall. If the bullet hole looks flat and kind of like a splat, its not penning. If it looks like a small circle, it is. Your kill feed will tell you if you died to wall pen. The icon looks like a straight line with a small explosion coming out of it.  Its not like siege where every wall is penetrative, and shooting with a lighter penetration weapon repeatedly wont eventually pen.  Wall pen does a flat reduced damage as well


MoonXuu

never played counterstrike?


The_titos11

Nope, console Andy


MoonXuu

Cod player, should know better


The_titos11

Bruh


jrmclau

Here’s a video showing a bunch of spots https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mZkF-rrJms4&pp=ygUSd2FsbGJhbmcgdmFsb3JhbnQg


IChooseFoxIsTaken

Watch some videos bro not just play


_AleXo_

it sounds more complicated than it is because in reality most players dont know every wallbangable surface but you can always check by how the bullet impact looks if the wall gets "hot and yellow" from your gunshot then it stopped, if its a dark circle with dust particles on shot then it went through


FluffyWuffyVolibear

Lotsa new players in this sub these days


AdamoO_

Wverygun literally have a "penetration" stat. Its been here since day 1 my friend


Boomerwell

Yes alot of things are able to shoot through walls the penetration level of your gun is shown in the menu. You'll love it and hate it it's fun when you have the read and nail someone but it's also really not fun when for example today i got blind running headshot through a wall two times in the same match.


Turbulent-Willow2156

Wall-piercing ammo


blackbladerA

Omg this teared me up a bit either bro has been using odin wrong or not at all but you mfs made him into a sinner too


Britzskull

The wall that has a corridor behind it on the LA map with either ares or odin sometimes if the enemy tries faking i sometimes get triple kills through it xD


ryzyn_

Never knew you could wallbang untill I started playing but yeah, not really a crazy concept though


RvLAlmost

Its called wallbanging Some walls are thinner than others And if u weapon has medium/high penetration power the bullets can go through those thin walls ( though will deal less damage ) Eg. Medium penetration: vandal/phantom High penetration: odin/guardian


pieoverlord21

haha yeah most people have said already but yes allot of things are penetratable. I wpuld recommend going into a custom with a friend and just mess around with wall banging on some maps (especially haven, ypu can shoot from defending side between a and b to that walkway on attacking side. you can also shoot into mid from that same a entry area)


Impossible-Will3175

Yes


TherionTheThief17

Console player fs


corrected-roshi

Yep, cardboard walls are pretty tricky sometime


invisiblecannon

U can also shoot through sages wall, just the corners tho


urstupid99

This was patched over 3 months ago in patch 8.04 [https://playvalorant.com/en-gb/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-8-04/](https://playvalorant.com/en-gb/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-8-04/) "Fixed a bug where bullets could pass through the corners of Sage's Barrier Orb (C)."


notConnorbtw

Realllyyy???


urstupid99

Patched months ago


MudPuppy_0

This is fun.


PresenceOld1754

It literally tells you the penetration of a weapon in the buy menu...


Perfect_Memory9876

I tried this game one last time last night in deathmatch knowing that I was not going to be successful, but the shots out of nowhere and this crap of shooting through the walls and such make this a poor game and extremely frustrating also. I would take 1 step and I was dead most of the time or I would go around a corner and I was killed. I was even killed by people that I couldn't even see in front of me. So after that I uninstalled the game because its not worth having and plus some of the players are so rude as well. I tried to like it but it was a no go for me.


53881

Imagine starting to play game that’s been out for years, discovering a completely obviously engineered component and then making a post about it as if it’s new. Wtf?


skee_21

Op is a new player, even I was confused when I started. Learn to read properly ig


The_titos11

I’m a ps5 beta noob bro chill


TheBlueking209

There’s a trophy for wall bangs btw


Amazing-Photo-4389

This hurt to read