I see what you’re saying, that could be why men especially were making disapproving comments. They much prefer high trust in women from what I’ve seen.
High trust features are like big doe/puppy dog eyes, rounded cheeks, small delicate mouth, small nose, large rounded forehead, basically features that are more soft, rounded, neotenous(youthful), and traditionally feminine. They are associated with the idea that like, for example, if you saw an innocent youthful looking woman, you’d probably trust her (to not hurt you, betray you, overpower you, etc.) and babies/kids are observed as often naturally trusting “pretty young women”.
Low trust features are things that are associates traditionally with masculinity but on a woman- longer face, wide mouth, angular eyes, larger or more prominent nose, more slender features. Imagine the stereotype of a Disney woman villain and that’s pretty much it. A lot of modern high fashion supermodels and famous women have these features because women find them glamorous, but it leads to men lobbing insults like “she looks like a man!!!!!” and making quips about how un-sexy they find models and the like.
They’re ideas that are derived both natural reactions, as observed in babies, and deeply engrained societal beliefs about what is feminine vs masculine physically and how that informs our assumptions about a person.
Edit: the best example I saw once was saying high trust features = Gigi Hadid, and low trust = Bella Hadid. They are both good examples of the different ends of the spectrum, and seeing how people react to them does reflect a lot of the expected stereotypes
I feel like i’m the only one who thinks she just turned into an average instagram face. She was very pretty before, her eyebrows and eyes are what stuck out to me. I feel like if she made some subtle changes (lips and styling) she could’ve been rated like a 7 (based on this subs standards). She’s undeniably pretty after but it’s just pretty in a plain and boring instagram way, nothing about her face after seems individually unique like in the first pic. It’s sad to see tbh.
She definitely isn’t average or below average, she’s very pretty. Her eye area reminds me of Natalie portmans. So yes, with styling and lips done, she could’ve easily been a 7.
This woman went viral, and I also saw people in her comments degrading her.
I actually would rate her the same before and after. 6.5/10. She just looks more expensive/high-maintenance which a lot of people associate as "ugly." People hate seeing the process.
I don’t think she looks better after at all like people are saying. She just has the surface signals that say “I’m hot” now so people register as hot. It’s the same reason girls don’t mind fish lips from lip filler and obviously laminated eyebrows and all of those procedures. If we looked at them out of the context of what’s trendy, they’d actually look pretty ridiculous but it’s a signal of someone who is “in” “current” “trendy” and “hot” rn so it makes you appear hotter than you are if you do those things. She was naturally pretty in a timeless way before where you could place her in an old movie or current one and she’d be the sweet pretty girl someone fell in love with.
It’s hard to tell this in the videos where she’s using front facing camera, always controlling the angles, wearing makeup, using filters and all that but something actually looks a bit off and less natural beauty about her now honestly. And her hair color is pulling a lot of the weight color here too. She would have looked cute just changing that alone to a less grown out blonde or nice brunette with her old face and growing her eyebrows out.
Hard to explain.. but I think she looks “hotter” but less beautiful to me honestly. And somehow now leans more average or has the appearance of looking older than she probably is.
I prefer the before. Both photos she looks average but I feel like the after photo is such a common appearance these days that she looks even more average than before. Does that make sense? Like both are pretty but both are common features and face styles. It’s just the after looks like a majority of women you’ll see that are influencers.
I believe an upper blepharoplasty. Taylor Swift had the same thing done
https://preview.redd.it/6vpxj1oysc4d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e0ec81beb6aef9ed0976c44124e59c94c469955
Given these photos, it looks like a lateral move to me, I would probably rank her a 6.5-7 for both. She doesn’t seem particularly prettier in the second pic, she just looks like her eyebrows don’t move anymore. The lip filler is nice, she didn’t overdo it and I think that benefitted her, so that kinda neutralizes the negativity of her brow situation. It also looks like she may have added to her jawline a bit? It’s a bit masculinizing, which is often popular in the beauty world, but ehh I’m not sure it suited her entirely. Not bad but not an improvement imo.
I personally prefer the before image because her eyes look more bright and expressive, and the second picture is giving pre-pillow face kinda vibes.
Based on these pics, definite improvement. Went from 6 to 7.5. Her eyebrows are shaped sooo much better now (went from flat & thin to full & arched) and her lip flip looks good. Overall, looks like tasteful botox & makeup changes. Nothing uncanny or plastic looking, I don't get the controversy.
I feel like I must be smoking something because I think she looks better after. Before is more averagely cute and approachable; after is more sexy and glamorous (to me). But fwiw I prefer brunettes anyway.
She’s beautiful but I’m not a fan of what she did to her brows personally. To me, her eyes look a bit hollowed out now, which does give a more refined an older look but it’s not what I’m drawn to really. Her hooded eyes prettier in my opinion
The only “improvements” in the second photo are the brows and her smile is a little less gummy (but i don’t think the smile looks good in 2nd pic). That being said, I greatly prefer the before photo. My husband says, that is a girl you’d marry in the first photo. The second photo is another girl you’d scroll past if you saw her on a dating app or instagram.
She’s pretty before and after, just gives off different vibes.
Before she had a pretty girl next door look, but now she looks like a girl who’s pretty BECAUSE she spends a lot of time/money on her appearance.
Am I the only one who doesn’t see a big difference besides styling, eyebrows and lip filler? It’s not a crazyyy never been done before combo and i’d definitely still recognize her if I knew her inrl.
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I wouldn’t say either is better objectively, just different. Before is definitely more natural and unique, which reads as more pleasant to most people’s eyes when they are tired of seeing the same Instagram face. The after would’ve probably been better received 10 yrs ago.
Personally I would’ve just changed the brows and added subtle lip filler but not changed the eyelids. I have lids kinda like the second and don’t love it because I look drunk in every pic.
She went from a high trust face to a low trust face, imo
I see what you’re saying, that could be why men especially were making disapproving comments. They much prefer high trust in women from what I’ve seen.
What are the high trust features? More feminine, or kind looking eyes? Small lips? I’m curious lol
High trust features are like big doe/puppy dog eyes, rounded cheeks, small delicate mouth, small nose, large rounded forehead, basically features that are more soft, rounded, neotenous(youthful), and traditionally feminine. They are associated with the idea that like, for example, if you saw an innocent youthful looking woman, you’d probably trust her (to not hurt you, betray you, overpower you, etc.) and babies/kids are observed as often naturally trusting “pretty young women”. Low trust features are things that are associates traditionally with masculinity but on a woman- longer face, wide mouth, angular eyes, larger or more prominent nose, more slender features. Imagine the stereotype of a Disney woman villain and that’s pretty much it. A lot of modern high fashion supermodels and famous women have these features because women find them glamorous, but it leads to men lobbing insults like “she looks like a man!!!!!” and making quips about how un-sexy they find models and the like. They’re ideas that are derived both natural reactions, as observed in babies, and deeply engrained societal beliefs about what is feminine vs masculine physically and how that informs our assumptions about a person. Edit: the best example I saw once was saying high trust features = Gigi Hadid, and low trust = Bella Hadid. They are both good examples of the different ends of the spectrum, and seeing how people react to them does reflect a lot of the expected stereotypes
Thanks! Got it :)
I somewhat disagree. I would say models often have a combination of both high trust and low trust features tbh and actresses vary a lot
I feel like i’m the only one who thinks she just turned into an average instagram face. She was very pretty before, her eyebrows and eyes are what stuck out to me. I feel like if she made some subtle changes (lips and styling) she could’ve been rated like a 7 (based on this subs standards). She’s undeniably pretty after but it’s just pretty in a plain and boring instagram way, nothing about her face after seems individually unique like in the first pic. It’s sad to see tbh.
I prefer before too, her eye area was more striking/contrasted. Only recommendation I would have made is fix the gummy smile.
I think she's wearing lighter colored contacts in the after pic.
She couldn't have been rated as "7" before💀
She definitely isn’t average or below average, she’s very pretty. Her eye area reminds me of Natalie portmans. So yes, with styling and lips done, she could’ve easily been a 7.
Not really, she has so many distintictive features that makes her unattractive
I genuinely think she looks better before.
I don’t. Her eyebrows are much better, lips fuller, skin smoother. Of course make up does a lot here
This woman went viral, and I also saw people in her comments degrading her. I actually would rate her the same before and after. 6.5/10. She just looks more expensive/high-maintenance which a lot of people associate as "ugly." People hate seeing the process.
What did she do to her eyebrows?
I went on her insta and she says that she does Botox to lift her brows
I was gonna ask the same thing. They are transformed
10/10 eyebrow transformation tbh
I don’t think she looks better after at all like people are saying. She just has the surface signals that say “I’m hot” now so people register as hot. It’s the same reason girls don’t mind fish lips from lip filler and obviously laminated eyebrows and all of those procedures. If we looked at them out of the context of what’s trendy, they’d actually look pretty ridiculous but it’s a signal of someone who is “in” “current” “trendy” and “hot” rn so it makes you appear hotter than you are if you do those things. She was naturally pretty in a timeless way before where you could place her in an old movie or current one and she’d be the sweet pretty girl someone fell in love with. It’s hard to tell this in the videos where she’s using front facing camera, always controlling the angles, wearing makeup, using filters and all that but something actually looks a bit off and less natural beauty about her now honestly. And her hair color is pulling a lot of the weight color here too. She would have looked cute just changing that alone to a less grown out blonde or nice brunette with her old face and growing her eyebrows out. Hard to explain.. but I think she looks “hotter” but less beautiful to me honestly. And somehow now leans more average or has the appearance of looking older than she probably is.
I prefer the before. Both photos she looks average but I feel like the after photo is such a common appearance these days that she looks even more average than before. Does that make sense? Like both are pretty but both are common features and face styles. It’s just the after looks like a majority of women you’ll see that are influencers.
Objectively, she looks better after. But she was a beautiful girl either way, girl next door kinda pretty.
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She got lip filler and Botox in the second picture too (she wrote it in the caption)
Before: 5.5 After: 7.5 , I actually really like her after look
i was prepared to hate, but if you go to her page and see her in motion she looks so much better after the procedures. i think she’s a solid 7 now.
People always look better moving
Anyone know what procedure she did to expand her eyelid exposure??? She looks sleepier now
I believe an upper blepharoplasty. Taylor Swift had the same thing done https://preview.redd.it/6vpxj1oysc4d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e0ec81beb6aef9ed0976c44124e59c94c469955
Before: 6.5 After: 7
Given these photos, it looks like a lateral move to me, I would probably rank her a 6.5-7 for both. She doesn’t seem particularly prettier in the second pic, she just looks like her eyebrows don’t move anymore. The lip filler is nice, she didn’t overdo it and I think that benefitted her, so that kinda neutralizes the negativity of her brow situation. It also looks like she may have added to her jawline a bit? It’s a bit masculinizing, which is often popular in the beauty world, but ehh I’m not sure it suited her entirely. Not bad but not an improvement imo. I personally prefer the before image because her eyes look more bright and expressive, and the second picture is giving pre-pillow face kinda vibes.
Based on these pics, definite improvement. Went from 6 to 7.5. Her eyebrows are shaped sooo much better now (went from flat & thin to full & arched) and her lip flip looks good. Overall, looks like tasteful botox & makeup changes. Nothing uncanny or plastic looking, I don't get the controversy.
I feel like I must be smoking something because I think she looks better after. Before is more averagely cute and approachable; after is more sexy and glamorous (to me). But fwiw I prefer brunettes anyway.
She’s pretty both ways, but she definitely glowed up in my opinion with good makeup/styling. And if she had work done it’s tasteful
She’s beautiful but I’m not a fan of what she did to her brows personally. To me, her eyes look a bit hollowed out now, which does give a more refined an older look but it’s not what I’m drawn to really. Her hooded eyes prettier in my opinion
6 either way I guess, slightly better before
The only “improvements” in the second photo are the brows and her smile is a little less gummy (but i don’t think the smile looks good in 2nd pic). That being said, I greatly prefer the before photo. My husband says, that is a girl you’d marry in the first photo. The second photo is another girl you’d scroll past if you saw her on a dating app or instagram.
she fucked up her eyes, they look swollen now. If she had just gotten her lips done she would've looked great.
i want to know how she did it
she was already pretty, now she just looks like every ig model
Her eyebrows alone make her prettier now!
She’s pretty before and after, just gives off different vibes. Before she had a pretty girl next door look, but now she looks like a girl who’s pretty BECAUSE she spends a lot of time/money on her appearance.
I absolutely think she looked better before, yikes
Before 5.5 after 6. The gummy smile keeps her from being higher imo
Did she get a nose job?
she looks like a generic instagram baddie now
She went from like a 4-7
Am I the only one who doesn’t see a big difference besides styling, eyebrows and lip filler? It’s not a crazyyy never been done before combo and i’d definitely still recognize her if I knew her inrl.
Really? Looks like 2 different people to me
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I wouldn’t say either is better objectively, just different. Before is definitely more natural and unique, which reads as more pleasant to most people’s eyes when they are tired of seeing the same Instagram face. The after would’ve probably been better received 10 yrs ago. Personally I would’ve just changed the brows and added subtle lip filler but not changed the eyelids. I have lids kinda like the second and don’t love it because I look drunk in every pic.
Definitely objectively better before. Her eyes were bright and lively. She looks drunk and a bit dead-inside in the eyes now.