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clokerruebe

imagine if tarkov was on steam


darrickeng

LOL, LMFAO EVEN. Nikita would have an aneurysm and throw even more rants.


Big_bosnian

Holy shit fuck Nikita he ruined my fav game


WilkerFRL94

Nikita made WarThunder fun for me again.


xxEmkay

After tarkov and helldivers, i might start warthunder again lol.


Parragorious

I hate saying this but to me gaijin seems less greedy than battlestate games and thats saying something.


SmokeyD45

The only people more greedy than gaijin and battlestate is the goddamn us government


BigHardMephisto

Star citizen ships selling for the price of a down payment on a car during beta


SmokeyD45

Me paying $20 every time a new plane comes out in il2 gb


GplPrime

EA Games: *I came to laugh at you*


Thin_Wheel_7109

What did helldivers II do?


Sir_Snagglepuss

Sony is making it a requirement to login through a PSN account to play the game. Well apparently a not insignificant portion of the player base live in countries where they can't connect to PSN or make an account. The devs or game dident really do anything but Sony is being crap like usual.


xxEmkay

Just in: sony apparently delisted helldivers 2 in those countries and you cant access the game anymore?! Wtf.


beancounterttv

I actually never had played warthunder before February. I played it for the first time and loved it. So much so I wasted money on premium 🤣.


reddituser4411

I always get the 180 days for 20 bucks seems worth it to me as long as I play over 20 hours in that 180 days which I am almost guaranteed to go well over.


Healthy-Tart-9971

If you just buy a premium you technically make a premium bonus permanently when you use said vehicle. You can still buy premium for a double bonus, and it's purely a monetary bonus in that you don't get the extra customization slots and stuff, but it is very well worth buying a premium for your main country.


BenScorpion

Premium time is better imo. You pay a small price to increase the income of ALL vehicle instead of paying a bigger amount for a premium vehicle that you can only grind one nation with and becomes obsolete once you exceeded its rank. Also i dont like premiums in general. Many of them are just a better version of an existing tank or just plain broke which makes it p2w


handsomeboi12

well, there's these new games popping up sooo..


Correct_Werewolf_576

Mind sharing news?Havent checked anything on tarkov for years


Rajhin

Honestly even if BSG wasn't fucking up constantly it would be very low rated just becuase of the reality of that genre. Normies would NOT be happy dying non-stop for the first 10 hours where that is just intended path of your journey and the popularity of the game is exclusively based on the contrast of incredible highs of your difficult achievements against incredible lows of suffering all the rest of the time. It's what makes it good when it's good. Many people who ended up loving Tarkov would have refunded it on steam in the first 2 hours.


KingScorpion98

You have to be a special kind of masochist to love Tarkov. Let's just say I discovered something about myself with that game......


Randomdeath

Right! I thought i had hit the pinnacle of masochist being a support main in league of legends but atleast you can blame your teammates most of time lol, tarkov hits you with those " what did I just witness moments" Like a kid with a alcoholic abusive step dad.


KingScorpion98

Getting air bursted by a Vog-17 and you can't even get mad about it


Nosbres

What did they do ?


clokerruebe

basically people paid 100€ i believe it was without taxes on a special edition that promised free access to all future DLC's. yet recently they removed said edition and added a new one for 250€ which gets more bonuses including a completly whole new mode. they said this mode is technically not a DLC so the 100€ edition owners wouldnt get. this is the second time. so everyone is hating on BSG and nikita, because nikita has made alot of unapology apologies


Nosbres

Ah yea makes sense then


Altr4

And that's before making the game even more P2W making the gaps between standard and now EoD and Unheard even larger. Some of the P2W aspect has been toned down, but it still show that BSG really adamant to put P2W garbage and I doubt this will be last we see them try.


FocaccinaGuy

Two different situations though. And it's alarming to see how easily and carelessly big corps like Sony and Ubisoft don't give a fuck when it's time to remove/lock games from players who legitimately bought their products.


gshq88

Yeah mega corp being completely brain dead/blind by profits and shit.


Zackyboi1231

Mega Corp's try not to do decisions that will absolutely plummet your reputation and game challenge:(impossible)


Explorer_the_No-life

Mega corps trying to not show they want to make world their fucked-up dystopia [IMPOSSIBLE][DELETED]


Mwakay

Why would they care ? Everyone will buy their next AAA anyway. Customers do *not* care about anything but the next formulaic shitty AAA the multibillionnaire company releases.


Dramatic-Classroom14

If I had a nickel for every time a company took a game that would strive just fine if they stopped fucking with it, and then trashed it for a large portion of the player base with predatory changes to get more money, I would have three nickels, which is surprising that it’s only been three times.


WenBleiidd

What are those games?


Dramatic-Classroom14

Tarkov, War Thunder (but we got them to revert it), Helldivers II


Homeboi-Jesus

Add R6 Siege to the list. Early Siege was an amazing experience and my favorite game. They ruined it when they threw out the concept of semi-realism/tactical in favor of widening the base, listening to pro play (always a bad idea), and making the game more CoD like. It is honestly amazing how devs (or the company behind the devs) can become so out of touch with their own consumer base.


Orneyrocks

Seige is bit different though, its kind of like changing your playerbase rather completely demolishing it, its still growing today and raking in more money than ever before.


Sir_Mike_A_Lot

Still R6S was a A-tier game until year 3 the operators made sense but I played it a couple of days ago and holy shit some of the operators are completely insane their gadgets are no way near realistic and that was their go to when the game was released...


ROFLtheWAFL

We will never get a proper tactical shooter from a Tom Clancy franchise ever again.


Arlend44

It's not that they're blind or brain dead, it's more that the current big corpos only want to suck shareholder cock instead of trusting their playerbase for profit. Anyone would have seen this would happen, but if it benefits the shareholders, they stay happy.


Sandsmann_

Didn't Ubisoft also try to disable copies of some of their other older games literally a day after they where part of a big sale on Steam?


The0rion

It's incredible from everything i've been able to read, the Entire team at arrowhead's just about as much going WTF? at what sony's doing. Ironically, the backlash has apparently given the Arrowhead guys some leverage to push back against what sony wants to enforce.


Dr_VidyaGeam

I wish them luck, getting a big corpo like Sony to move will take a lot more than a 'small dev' like Gaijin.


Lolocraft1

At least we can proudly say we set an example for every gaming community there is, that change is possible with collective determination I too wish them luck


Xenoniuss

Patting ourselves on the back there, lmao. The WT community did NOT set an example for every gaming community there is with collective determination. Because this, as well as reviewbombing, has literally been a thing ever since games existed... It's nothing new, it's nothing special, it's a good ol' page out of the good ol' reliable book, lol.


Madman333666

The difference is gaijin listened while majority of the time, other boycotts on games dont change anything and the studio just abandons the game rather than fix it.


NighthawkAquila

Most of the time said game is not their cash cow though


Madman333666

Well helldivers isnt sonys cash cow. They dont care if the game plummets in players. The devs made a huge mistake having sony as their publisher


NighthawkAquila

Oh absolutely I agree. I just mean if people were to say go do it to Fortnite for Epic it would likely have a similar effect as WT did


Lolocraft1

Hence why I said we set an *example*, not that we created the whole thing We didn’t invented Review Bombing, we showed that it can work


Arlend44

Not really when it comes to megacorpos if their only interests lie in shareholders. It's very obvious to anyone that this action will only hurt them when it comes to normal finances, but will satisfy the shareholders instead.


BonomanNL

Gaijin had already implemented some good changes to make the grind better


Dr_VidyaGeam

Before the great bombings? They were gonna make it worse than it already was.


boinwtm0ds

Yeah only after we threatened their bottom line


pnkstr

That's the only thing companies understand. 99% of companies out there don't actually give a shit about their customers, just their customer's money.


DarthCloakedGuy

This is why suits should never be allowed to participate in the process of making or running games.


Whitetiger2819

Unfortunately the capital to develop them has to come from somewhere… so either you only have indie games with relatively low funding or more corporate creations which can be relatively lavish in their scope and developpement. And when the capital is not yours, you’ll end up facing the question of ROI at some point…


Richardguy_2

Holy fuck, are we already on to the rewriting history bit?


Jhawk163

Helldivers 2 is all about a large group of players coordinating and coming together in order to overcome a common goal. Pissing off your community is not advisable.


gshq88

Tell that to Sony lmao


FISH_SAUCER

When does Sony not piss off its consumers?


platochan3

before 1946


riuminkd

Strong "They targeted gamers. Gamers." copypasta wibe


Jhawk163

I’m just saying, pissing off the GTA Online players is one thing, but the whole point of Helldivers is sheer numbers coordination.


riuminkd

Point of helldivers is shooter with several randoms. Most people don't care about global campaign


KENNY_WIND_YT

I'm out of the loop, what's happening with *Helldivers 2*?


Panocek

Some Sony certifiet brainlet decided to change "optional" to "mandatory" linking steam and playstation accounts to even play the game. Add to that fact playstation accounts aren't supported in many nations + Sony goes out of their way to ban those who give incorrect information even "in good faith" to play game in unsupported region.


KENNY_WIND_YT

wow, that's fucked.


EruantienAduialdraug

To throw some numbers down, there's 195 countries in the world, Steam is available in all but 4 or 5 due to US sanctions (but really it's available everywhere), PSN is only available in 69 (nice) countries. Sony didn't bother to use the region-locking tools in Steam, so people in more than 120 countries have bought the game that will now be locked out in a few months. Technically, it was never optional to link your account. The authentication server ate shit on launch, so Arrowhead (the dev studio) disabled the linking in a day 1 patch. If you had been required to link for this entire time, players in unsupported regions would have been able to refund before hitting the playtime limit for Steam refunds. The side issue is Sony's horrible reputation for data security. A lot of PC gamers that *can* make a PSN account are leery to do so.


ARandomBaguette

Many doesn’t even cut it, 2/3 of all countries can’t create a PSN account.


ze_loler

They are planning on making a PSN account required for playing the game and the problem is that PSN isnt available in every country and if you try to use a vpn to make one you will also likely get banned


Libarate

I thought everyone loved Helldivers 2. What happened?


gshq88

Sony was the problem, forced all Steam users to require a PSN account in order to continue playing the game, which by the way, isn't available in all countries either.


NecessaryBSHappens

And they will ban you if you try to use VPN to actually get a PSN account


Explorer_the_No-life

Sony being braindead and totally oblivious to customers opinions and preferences? No way!? 


illiterateandsingle

Has this actually happened? All I've seen is people complaining...


NecessaryBSHappens

Well, it is against ToS and I saw some chinese players being banned for that. Could be unrelated, but Im inclined to believe


felldownthestairsOof

Yeah some people have been posting screenshots of their accounts being banned for using a VPN


kataskopo

Nothing has happened yet, the requirements haven't started yet, but they were announced recently.


Inprobamur

Japanese companies and being clueless about PC gaming/international support. Name a better duo.


LiberdadePrimo

Sony has not been a japanese company for the better part of the last 10 years, they moved to california in 2016. Back then they also pissed their japanese partners because basically overnight it required them to communicate in english and during american working hours, which you know its kinda a hassle when you live in the literal other side of the world.


Inprobamur

They still act like it, same with Nintendo. They also have a US branch, but regularly take baffling legal stances.


Red_Rocky54

Sony is "not Japanese" in the same way that Gaijin is "not Russian". Moving their headquarters doesn't change their past, their company culture, or the ethnicity of their executives.


DarkWorld26

Sony's corporate structure is weird. Sony Entertainment (Music and Film) and Sony Interactive Entertainment (games, playstation) are both American companies, with SIE arising out of Sony Imagesoft, an American game publisher. They've never really moved the headquarters of the Sony Gaming division anywhere because it's always been an American. They've always had American executives overseeing the gaming portion (which was separate to the console portion of the company, and they would merge to form SIE), and today the Japanese branch is in fact a regional branch to the American headquarters. What happens is that hardware development and Japan focused games are handled by the Japanese branch, while global publishing, development and distribution as well as studio acquisition is handled by the American HQ. Specific to this decision though, it's likely that it was always on the contract that PC users would need a PSN account (and it reflected that on the steam page on launch), but it was not implemented due to the server issues that the devs had. Some people said that they were prompted to link a PSN account when they first opened the game on launch day, before it was disabled hours later. This is simply the devs thinking that their servers could handle it now and re-enablijg that feature.


Dr_VidyaGeam

The game is still good, this is Sony deciding you need an account on PSN to play this game after months of allowing steam users (including ones with no PSN support) to buy and play it.


No_Pomegranate_2534

So I'd say backlash is well deserved


Budget_Hurry3798

Nah it's different, people literally have to get a PSN Accouny play the game


gshq88

oh i know, but its similar in the sense that companies making bad decisions and then fucking over normal players


Budget_Hurry3798

It's Sony's fault not the game devs, same reason console players can't access the market place, get skins etc etc


gshq88

yeah i get it, i just find it similar either way


Budget_Hurry3798

Yes, kinda worried that straight up is going to kill the game cuz Xbox players aren't going to make a PSN account cuz they hate ps and PC players don't like consoles in general lmao


NecessaryBSHappens

Problem isnt in someone not liking consoles. Problem is that PSN is literally *not availiable* for many people who bought the game like russians, chinese, philippines and many others. And Sony will ban you for trying to use VPN to register, locking you out of the game you bought


gshq88

Yeah sony would probably just write the game off as unprofitable and then kill it, then blame it on the playerbase


Panocek

You mean good ol "standard business practice" of takeover?


Aiden_Recker

> Physically impossible to make a PSN account in 60+ countries even if they want to (unless you lie and risk getting your account banned) > Infamous for data leaks > Most likely never will refund anybody who PURCHASED the game and did not link their account i dont even play the game but never have i pray with this much hatred


gshq88

Sony moment


breezyxkillerx

Steam is refunding some people already, problem is that not everyone will get their money back a lot of people are getting rejected. And yes even tho I have a PSN account Im not connecting that shit to anything outside PlayStation.


Blahaj_IK

Here it's different. Helldivers is being fucked over by Sony, not the devs that actually love and care for their game. It's a sad situation and I do hope it gets reverted soon, because Arrowhead certainly does not deserve this


The-Almighty-Pizza

The community manager doesn't think so lol. He basically said in the discord community "womp womp cry more"


Blahaj_IK

pfffft lmao, I just checked and you're right Man at least community managers aren't generally dev team. Generally. I hope they give that Spitz the boot when this all gets sorted out, responding to people like that as a community manager should not be tolerated


Explorer_the_No-life

War Thunder 🤝 Helldivers Having terrible community managers.


LiberdadePrimo

Might as well include all games.


FISH_SAUCER

Not only that, but he also linked an article to people complaining that still confirmed that PSN linking is still optional


Thisconnect

The thing people dont realize that once you are intertwined with a "big publisher" you get a lot of bleedthrough between your management. In this case its less likely but people constantly excuse for example rockstar for being bullied by evil Take-Two while in reality GTA has been longer under taketwo then without and their management swapped places many times and the insane policies, decisions, monetization has been them


TheGraySeed

Helldivers 2 community manager is so bad that the dev actually have to step up doing the damage control because the community manager just douse the entire thing with more fuel instead of controlling it.


gshq88

Oh yeah I know, the comparison was made purely because its the same situation where companies (be it Sony or Gaijin) makes bad decisions that results in a mob.


DarkWorld26

You say this as if the devs havent been saying that you need PSN and listed it on the steam store page from the start lol.


Blahaj_IK

PSN was OPTIONAL not required


DarkWorld26

[Have you tried reading?](https://archive.md/b0imQ) > Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)


Blahaj_IK

Well, that's the thing, from what I've read, that was changed recently to make it mandatory. But it used to be optional.


DarkWorld26

> from what I've read, that was changed recently to make it mandatory That was literally on the store page in January......which is what the archive I linked shows. They disabled it temporarily cos their servers couldn't handle it but the notice was always on the steam page and it was always a requirement.


Blahaj_IK

I thought it was only on the EULA. But let's also talk about the Steam page. Alright, so that's what doesn't sit right with me. How come so many users could play without the PSN before? Why did they allow all platforms and users to go on for this long without the PSN? It just doesn't make any sense


DarkWorld26

> How come so many users could play without the PSN before? Why did they allow all platforms and users to go on for this long without the PSN? It just doesn't make any sense Cos they disabled linking a couple hours after launch, when their servers were shitting themselves. There are people who said that upon first launch on launch day they were prompted to link PSN. I guess they figured that their servers are good enough to handle the linking.


Familiar_Ad_8919

ksp2, the game got killed by take two, now its getting rightfully review bombed


MightySquirrel28

Man I waited so long and was so hyped for KSP 2 just for it being the absolute garbage:(


Excellent_Silver_845

Helldiver devs respect their player and are not trying to milke then all the time not like gaijij. There is the diffrance


gshq88

yeah this isn't direct towards their devs, they have an amazing team, but its a jab at how companies (be it sony or gaijin) just have to make one bad decision and everything comes crashing down


Aggravating-Media818

Honestly the shit and greed that Gaijin pulls is way more extreme than other games that are having similar protests and review bombs like HD2 and even Tarkov. The only difference is Gaijin is alot more subtle in all their hyper greed and frustrating mechanics and is so fucking consistent with them that it's like the community knows they can't fight back 24/7 but only when things get to a tipping point.


Godzillaguy15

Gaijin uses the F2P system. And they aren't even the most blatant tbh. They aren't even the most blatant in pay for convenience or skips either. In fact aside from premium being a must have for grinding there's very little you actually need to pay for(admittedly I'm surprised they ain't never added a premium sub that removes uptiers and the like which id actually pay for) and even then doing one or two events a year will usually earn you enough gaijin coin to buy yearly membership during sales without having to pay a real world dime. Bushes while time consuming, can be bought in game for in-game currency and got heavily nerfed anyways. Every three months period has a number of free premiums to get outta the warbond shop, in-game events and the like. Let's be real if the snail really wanted to lean into the greedy persona lol tag them with there's a whole hell of a lot that they could monetize that they currently don't.


pongtieak

I think world of tanks is even more predatory in the wat they make you pay. In WT you have to pay to progress, but you can actually play BR ranges that you have. You straight up cannot do that in WOT. You have to shoot gold ammo and use food or you'll just suck and be a burden to the team.


DevotedToExeter

WoT player here, food being mandatory is something any competitive player would agree about but many don't use it and do fine. Premium ammo on the other hand has ruined the game, with Wargaming doing everything in their power to incentivize tryharding and premium ammo spam (the latter a direct consequence of the former), and many shoot premium ammo despite not being tryhards simply because this way they have better odds of winning matches.


boinwtm0ds

Was that because of the PSN shenanigans that Sony pulled?


xthelord2

yep and very much deserved many people can't even make PSN accounts because they don't have their country listed like Kazakhstan and if they lie about their region they get banned from PSN


gshq88

yup


Squeaky_Ben

the most baffling thing is just how much this will actually tank profits. The game is a smash hit, selling millions of copies and now? it's dead.


gshq88

Sony executives in the board rooms making decisions on how to ruin not just a game, but their entire reputation in one fell swoop


Yeetstation4

What improvements does Helldiver 2 have over the normal SB2C anyway?


Slabboardguy

And both happened because of raging greed


Keisuke_Fujiwara

I need context. What happened


gshq88

Sony forced everyone including Steam accounts to link to PSN in order to play, otherwise no gaming for you


Keisuke_Fujiwara

Fucking shi- HAROLD! PREPARE MY AM-1 I'M GOING IN A BOMBING RUN!


TheJeyK

Do it for your filipino bros. PSN is not available in the philippines, so every filipino that paid for helldivers 2 is fucked


Keisuke_Fujiwara

I HAVE SEVERAL THOUSAND POUNDS OF EXPLOSIVES AND IF THAT AIN'T ENOUGH I STILL HAVE ONE GUIDED BOMB. THAT GUIDED BOMB IS ME!


Shufflebuzz

And what happened with War Thunder in 2023? Edit - [found this story](https://gamerant.com/war-thunder-review-bomb/#:~:text=The%20reason%20for%20that%20dates,to%20obtain%20through%20regular%20play.). Fewer SL and RP


Mustang_Dragster

Cyberpunk 2077 prepared us to hate corpo gonks. War Thunder prepared us for an effective way to review bomb. Helldivers 2 prepared us to fight as a unified community. Sony has NO chance lol


AntiSimpBoi69

I hate corpos but do NOT talk shit about my beloved trauma team


LandoGibbs

As a Helldiver this is even worse, go PSN or gg... For me this is a gg wp was fun until corp showed the real greed it is.


FISH_SAUCER

Agreed 100000%. I lobe helldivers so much. I literally upgraded my build to able to play it at max settings and everything. Now this shit happened. Was fun while it lasted cause I ain't giving my info to sony


ROLFLMAOLOL

holy shit that template has become bitcrushed to hell. its only appropriate considering we are in hell already.


wakeup_samurai

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ sony headquarters


Strzvgn_Karnvagn

What did Helldivers do now? Nevermind, wtf Sony?


Rorywizz-MK2

Kerbal space program 2 might be going down the same path


7Seyo7

Remind us again what Gaijin did in May 2023?


gshq88

"Fuck you." *nerfs Economy*


AntiSimpBoi69

Operation salt the snail


DeadMemesAreUs1

We should be supporting them. It's not an irrelevant mode of protest if the companies they're protesting against do not treat their customers with respect and decency.


barf_of_dog

I was thinking about whether or not I should get Helldivers but it appears Sony has made that decision for me.


now_ill_hang_myself

Bombing review: dies in 2023 **WELCOME BACK BOMBING REVIEW**


SignalBattalion

Lmfao


Kiwi175293

Helldivers 2 is a great game, its the fact that you now need a psn account which steals and collects your data to play it now


someone_forgot_me

should be the other way around considering helldivers passed 116k


HateSucksen

Refund time.


gigson969

What happened with Helldivers?


DemocracyOfficer1886

Sony requires mandatory PSN account for Steam players next month or they won't be able to play. There are *a lot* of countries that don't have PSN support and would need to make accounts with residence on neighbouring countries (not allowed in some instances) or use VPN (bannable offense according to Sony it seems). Some straight up refuse to give their data to Sony due to their horrible track record for security breaches since 2008. Edit: there's now a list of countries where Steam won't sell Helldivers 2 anymore due to PSN being unavailable there. It's quite long too. This should be the link to the post. https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/jx7QGkPLwR


iskandar-

i mean yah... sadly review tanking is the only effective way to get devs attention these days.


AdNegative6756

It's so sad to see Helldivers in this state, this was easily GOTY and now I don't even know what's next, Sony fucked up really bad and I'm not sure how recoverable the situation is, they may have burned bridges that are hard to rebuilt, hope I'm wrong.


OperationSuch5054

hell divers aint got those juicy classified sekrit documentz leaks though.


prisonman2121

KSP 2 is meeting this same fate


Mech_Hunter12

Virgin Gaijin: "nooo don't review bomb us, it really hurts our sales" Chad Arrowhead: "please review bomb us, SONY won't listen to us otherwise"


TheTimocraticMan

Ah, those were glorious days


NoEyeKontact_13

War thunder is still in top, check the scale on the left


Eexileed

Just wait. Warthunder had ~120k bad reviews. HD2 is closing into 100k and it all just started.


Future-Geologist-164

Whats the new hd drama


InquisitorRedPotato

HA! war thunder is a masterpiece, good one!


gshq88

Yeah the masterpiece of being review bombed to bits


themastrofall

Still not changing my review until all the changes are finished from the road map. Properly


Smellfish360

the results are similar, but the situation is different. In war thunder, it was gaijin's crappy economic decisions that made buying premium the only way to progress. In Helldivers, players from 107 out of 195 countries cannot make a psn account (though most of them are from Africa, there are relatively little players from there), and sony has a history of databreaches. They market is as a way to make the game safer and more secure, but anyone with a pure, democratic mind knows that this is automaton propaganda.


CostelBroasca

weird that both of these happened in may


Turbulent-Disk6273

We humbly ask that all of you good war thunder players stand by us and do what your best at


Zlamany-fr

Is it bad I think Sony is doing this because helldivers was getting to much love and they want cod to be main love instead?


Nizikai

What happened there?


Eexileed

Arrowhead is the Dev, Sony is the Publisher. On Friday Sony announced that every future and existing Steam/PC acount need to be linked to PSN, this comes with a several problem. PSN is only available in 69 countries, the game was sold to 170. Russia, Philipines, Turkey and almost all of Africa would lose the ability to play the game. Refund comes on top of this, because the game is out for 3 months. It gets worse in every detail. Sony is known for having breaches every few months, major hacks every 2 years. And this same company tells the community to give out free access to personal data for security reasons? This is all made up bs by Sony.


BayonetTrenchFighter

I’m not super active in this community. What happened to warthunder


Eexileed

Warthunder is a grindy game, the bottle neck is and was rp or xp, to unlock new modules, vehicles. But Gaijin was slightly adding an additional grind on top. After the long xp-grind, you didnt even had enough SL or ingame currency to pruchase the needed stuff, because Gaijin was changing the economy step by step. A final patch finally broke the economy and the playerbase had enough .


Maxspeed24

It must be may


JasonChristItsJesusB

This is hilarious, mostly because War Thunder requires a third party login, and it was never review bombed for that.


cantpickaname8

I don't get what the fuss about the Helldivers situation is. All I've heard is that you need to create/have a PSN account to keep playing and ok? That's it? It's not like they're requiring you to buy PS+ or something. It's not even like creating an account to play a game is unique, any Ubisoft or EA game are the exact same


nanihello

Anyone tell me what happened? I thought it's a very popular game


Sea_Art3391

wait wtf happened to helldivers??


Fastgommy22

What the heck happened? Did 4chan get mad at helldivers?


TuxWarz

both well deserved


historynerdsutton

What’s the context of helldivers going down?


Sunyxo_1

Only now do I realise the true scale of War Thunder's review bombing, 116 THOUSAND negative reviews in such a short time is absolutely huge


Flamin_Gamer

World of warships once had a game called “Steel Ocean” way back in the day I actually remember playing it and gettting a free HMS Repulse on it but then the game shutdown In like 2016 or 17


Redgradiantman_

"Pay for new guns lol haha democracy we liked the spotlight but now we want cash hahah supe earth"


Lv100--Magikarp

Sorry, what happened? I've been living under a rock lately (letting my ADD run wild in Fallout 4)


gshq88

read up about sony and helldiver


DannyLiu27

I'm curious who's giving Gaijin positive reviews


Crazybonbon

People in the HD2 sub were even mentioning warthunders community reaction too!


Mech_Hunter12

Virgin Gaijin: "nooo don't review bomb us, it really hurts our sales" Chad Arrowhead: "please review bomb us, SONY won't listen to us otherwise"


Raskzak

Wait what ? What's happening with it ?


Halonut24

Let's just hope they're able to get the same results


Dominuss476

The heros who fixed the game while i was on break


DevotedToExeter

Looks like Helldivers is diving into hell. I don't play this game but a friend told me about the Sony-PSN affair and honestly, big companies can go eat a fat one. I'm sorry for the game developers (likely blameless in this) and the gamers who spent time and money on this game.


No-Faithlessness-360

can anyone tell me what happened?


Excellent_Silver_845

If wt boikot was sooo great why isnt there a sequel?


crewchiefguy

What happened that made war thunder suddenly tank? I wasn’t around


Laidback_Larry

What happened around that time?


Strict-Invite-1359

Only difference is that it made a difference for Helldivers 2 lmao


ADM_Zombie

This isn't even fair war thunder actually sucks most the time helldivers just has the shitty publisher