I thought it was ghastly. I'm not a fan of McMansions in general, but theirs seemed so empty and devoid of personality. The colors are jarring, too. It almost looks like cardboard, like a very stripped down Barbie dream house.
I agree. Tacky, not warm or inviting. Bad furniture for the space. Hideous colors. Wall to wall carpeting and linoleum. The weirdest decorated early 2000's out of style overpriced fart box. Its not important to the murders but i hate it. It looked..unlived in. Very weird home. Weird people living there too tbh. I dont know what to make of it.
I did get fond of those Target color schemes of chocolate, orange, and aqua for awhile, but my gerberas were real š¤·š» her tastes would have undoubtedly have evolved, too.Ā
> It looks like 2000ās HGTV home makeovers
Yes. And with all those storge bins stacked up against the walls, that house could have doubled for a storage unit in itself.
I didn't like it, the colours were all over the place, purple ceiling for no real reason in the dining room and then orange alcoves in the family room, crazy bright colours everywhere gave me a headache. Lime green kitchen with orange flowers, it's like an acid trip.
I had a friend whose mom was very mentally ill (not sure what exactly she was suffering from, but she was very odd). She was constantly painting walls and rooms the brightest most tropical colors. They lived in a McMansion in Littleton, Colorado. It was so strange.
A dining room is really the only room where I would consider white walls and a color on the ceiling. The walls won't clash with dishes or flowers or whatever else is on the table. And the purple pulls the ceiling down for a cozier feel. Not that there was anything cozy about that house, but I do like bold colors. I have a teal wslls in the living room, yellow in the kitchen/dining area, and orange in my office/craft room. Not unlike an acid trip, but a good trip, LOL. Beige is boring to me.
Story is amusing. They had a gigantic dining table in there they bought on credit. It was enormous and ugly. Was not paid for, but they put it on Craigās list for I think $500 for cash.
Didnāt sell, and the furniture store sent their goons to repo it. Shanann threw a fit, would not let them in, and called the police.
Police escorted the goons out WITH the table and chairs. Hence the room formerly known as
Dining!
The dining room set was repossessed after the bankruptcy. That was one store that said, um, no, you're not gonna pay for it, we are taking it back. Good for them.
Yeah I must admit I'm more of a beige, magnolia person myself. Navy blue, Forest green, Rust orange instead of bright orange, Ochre instead of bright yellow etc.
It lacked warmth in its decor. Add a family and it still lacked warmth bc it looked like no one lived there even with four people, especially two kids of the four.
CW worked outside, in dirt, etc. Yet, you see no boots, no jackets, nothing that most homes have laying around bc it's used every day.
Agreed. It was staged for her mlm business which was all about āselling a lifestyle.ā It felt like a model home, very generic, no actual warmth or personal touches. āLive Laugh Loveā and all that basic decor.
I didn't know about it either until someone pointed it out. I wish I could find where I read it because they also had a picture of the packages and yup, I think the playroom colors, the kitchen, and one other room I think(I just saw 3 packages but there might've been some to match all rooms.) It's odd though, she really was all about thriving.
It honestly seemed like she REALLY DID believe deeply in these products!! Chris said as much in the interrogation room too..that thrive really worked and changed their lives. I think she really did think it was the sh*t and that's why she talked abt it non stop and even decorated the house using thrive as inspo. Cookoo for coco puffs, that one. (But no she didn't deserve to die) lol
Purple in (repossessed) dining room
Lime green in kitchen & play room
Orange in family room
Bright blue & hot pink in CeCe's room
All colors found on Thrive boxes
I canāt understand why?? I think they tell you in MLM you arenāt selling a product youāre selling a lifestyle.. so maybe she took that seriously? Poor girl was very off path.
Iāve always thought it strange that with both girls being in day care, there are absolutely NO displays of their crafts or art works/writings hanging on the refrigerator or displayed elsewhere in the house! I have ages 6 and 8 yr old great nieces, who have drawn me pictures over the years and they cover my refrigerator, and they live out of state! But, I love their little drawingsā¦.so they hang on the front and side of my refrigerator
Mine has also been covered with drawing or school awards. Right now, no bc we moved and I have them in a small Rubbermaid container for safety. I also have kept cards and school photos. Although parents don't buy those like they used to š¤
Iāve got young kids and the art projects are everywhere, and always multiplying! not that I mind at all, I love seeing them being creative and taking pride in their work. I think most parents I know have a similar problem that youāve got to be somewhat sneaky and selective about which ācreationsā get tossed when itās time to cull some things from the old portfolio. all this to say that it is very odd that we donāt see any kids arts/crafts stuff anywhere in those videos, ever. I suppose it fits, as they never were shown or even discussed any creative outlets for the girls.
Why were the girls in daycare if she was a SAHM who was involved in an MLM, thatās not a job. I canāt justify the cost. (Also new to this, all I knew were the basics, husband annihilated his family to be with mistress, so Iām just now learning all of the gritty details)
That is a question thatās been asked a million times! I canāt justify it either. They had no business being in full time daycare! Two days a week for socialization, I can get behind. But certainly not 5days a week for nine hours a day. Literally, she could not parent her girls! She loved the āMomā title, but she was certainly no āmotherā!
I thought the whole place looked like it was straight from Rent a Center or Rooms To-Go. Cheap, tacky and no warmth.
Also, a home without books/bookshelves has always been a red flag for me.
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I wouldn't know what to do without books.
The house was filled with cheap and tacky Hobby Lobby decor throughout every room. I know, I worked for them at the time and spotted so much of it. Drove me nuts!!
The basement had more warmth and personality than the house did. The home reflected the truth about their life. Barely any furnishings in the McMansion. Thrive color walls. Tacky signage in the closet. The girls, if they weren't drugged up on Tylenol and Benadryl, were barely allowed to play with toys - God forbid they make a mess. There were no artifacts the house was lived in. It was a house, a long way from being a home.
Iām from Miami, I love bright colors and modern edgy decor. Their house was not it. They spent so much money on furniture and home goods, but it looked tacky and cheap. I think itās the Thrive brand color scheme that threw me off.
Exactly. I am a maximalist and love bright colors and ostentatious decor. But this house was something different. It was like maximalism trying to be minimalism. It didnāt work at all. Itās one of the only houses Iāve seen with bright colors that Iāve really disliked.
Have you ever driven by a furniture store āsidewalk saleā where they have their tacky, cheap looking statues, book ends, and other tchotchkes on clearance? It looks like she went crazy at those sales.
I always suspected she bought all of the furniture/decor as a package from a furniture store. It doesnāt seem to be pieces you find in any actual store.
And 3 years later was back in the same situation. Credit cards maxed out, being sued by the HOA association, tapping into cws 401k to make the mortgage current, it's absolutely mind boggling.
You're right-- I think the Ikea taste level is far above Shannon's bizarre idea of home glamour. (Ikea carries some furniture that falls apart quickly, and much that is good quality; I've had both.) I think the Ikea aesthetic would baffle our gal, who seemed to choose furniture that could be easily hosed down if ever invaded by dust.
I can see her purchasing from rooms from online catalogues like Wayfair and Hobby Lobby. I recognized one lamp in the living room that came from Target's Pillowfort line for children's clothing. What really freaks me out is the bedroom the Duchess of Saratoga Trail chose for herself. Not only is all that wiggling wood incredibly ugly and heavy; it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the house.
It was a cheap model home. The builder also has so many lawsuits against them because the houses are made like shit. They also couldn't afford any upgrades, and the layout of the house is just... strange. There's another model of that home in the neighborhood on an actual decent sized lot, and it looks so much better since they could actually afford to customize it. The Watts had the bare bones model, and it showed.
It baffled me why anyone would want a house THAT huge (about 4,000 sq. ft.), but yet being unable to have anything but bare-bones everything! I mean, they had linoleum flooring in the kitchen/dining area, and carpet in the rest of the house. There wasnāt a single part of the house with hardwood (or even laminate) or tile flooring. Now thereās nothing wrong with linoleum & carpet, but itās just that when youāre paying for a brand-new 4,000 sq ft house, you would expect it would have those things. Otherwise, why not get a 3,000 sq ft house instead so that you CAN afford to get better than base-model, cheapest, most bare-bones EVERYTHING?? (I hope iām making sense here.)
She was obsessed with huge houses it seems. And she had no personal sense of style. Or any interests at all outside presenting a fake life and going into debt over pyramid schemes.What did she and CW talk about? I bet NK did feel like a break of fresh air after the stress of dealing with Shannan.
That is one of the first things I noticed. The floors were of the poorest quality. Really cheap. All that money and it looked like HOme Depot carpet and linoleum.
The layout is very strange. A lot of empty space (2 story living room), the landing upstairs along with a huge formal living room along with family room. The space was not used well at all.
The three windows in the second storey/front of the house (above and to the right of the front door) were windows to nowhere. Glorified skylights. What a weird design.
I don't recall seeing a ceiling fan?? So, in the Colorado winter, all the heat is going to rise up into that empty space. Would cost a fortune. Or maybe they weren't using the heating?? I don't know.
If you watch the police cam video, you can see ceiling fans running upstairs. Two of them, I believe. I think CW was using them to air out the smell of God knows what and also to dissipate the smell of bleach.
Yup. He was running those ceiling fans at frenzied speed in the dash cam vids Iāve seen. And didnāt he tell NK he was doing the kids laundry bc the sheets smelled? I kind of remember thatā¦.
Thanks. I have viewed a lot (but not all) of the body cam footage. I obviously missed the fans.
But that certainly makes sense to have them in that huge empty ceiling spaceš
I kinda liked the green in the kitchen, but the rest of the colours, especially when mixed up with one another, were absolutely hideous. She could have carried lovely muted greens throughout the house, with a sandy beige, and that would have been great. But noooooo lol
I said the same thing. I didnāt hate the green. The cabinets were so dark along with the appliances and backsplash that it kind of helped brighten up a room that would otherwise feel very dark. Outside of that, not a fan.
I really don't have an issue with how the home was painted or decorated (although it did seem cold to me) because everyone has their own taste. What I do have a problem with is that most, if not all, was purchased on credit that they had no intention of paying back. I mean seriously, where do you draw the line, 10k?, 20k?, 30k? Nope, with them it was 70k of unsecured debt and other than the dining room set they kept it all. And learned absolutely nothing.
Yes. I think of that often. She bought that stuff with no intention of ever paying for it. How gross is that? Then after getting all the furniture for nothing, writing it off in a bankruptcy, she went ahead and bought more garbage, most likely Thrive crap to buy her rank. I find it very disgusting. It was fraud, plain and simple.
were there ever any details on exactly what went down when the furniture company had to get the sheriff involved to repo the dining room set? also, how close was that in time to when they had the vehicle repoād? I thought I remembered reading that CW had. Classic mustang that he was forced to sell (not an awful thing on its own, if you have an impractical car and then have kids. sorry, boss, if you canāt afford them both, the toys have got to go.) and then the Explorer they bought was repoād within a few short months. Was the Ford Explorer repoād by the same dealership that used to employ both of them? If so, thatās gotta sting even moreso than it ordinarily would.
I thought it was hideous. The purple ceiling in the dining room and then the lime green kitchen were awful but we all know that no one dared speak up and say it was awful.
> but we all know that no one dared speak up and say it was awful.
No doubt. I'm sure anyone that came to visit or stay with them likely had to pretend to like the look and colors of the house all the while telling SW what an incredible decorator she was.
I had read about this. I was appalled. She even criticized the room temps of the homes, and offered to share her HVAC person's number! She would not touch the dinners that were made for her , either. All she did was insult people and talk about how big her house was. She was never a nice person, not ever.
I know, right? At the Christmas parties, his co-workers would sit as far away from them as they could get. NO one liked her. And he made excuses for her, saying she had a bad day!!! This dim wit married her knowing exactly what she was like. He gets no pity from me. I have never seen such a spineless excuse for a man.
do you happen to recall where you read about this from his co-workers? Holy shit I just canāt get over him being in the position of having to apologize for her āhaving a bad dayā on multiple occasions and still not having the stones to just walk the fuck away. The fake persona of St. Shannan that has been propagated just because she happened to be a murder victim is one of the most disingenuous things Iāve ever seen. She was a bullheaded shitheel, just say so.
the lack of self awareness is just astonishing. you have this moron who apparently didnāt graduate high school until the ago of 20, with no further education, no career or otherwise marketable skills looking down her nose and outright insulting hard working people in their own home. all of this while she was in the process of having to short sell her home she had just purchased and defaulting on all of the furniture within, that she had purchased on credit. an absolute pig. Itās funny that her equally smooth-brained family and the cult of Shiners go silent when these ugly details come to the surface. She was throwing up red flags left and right, CWās family saw them, and peanuthead blew right by them all like they were checkpoints. Iām still not entirely convinced he isnāt mentally retarded.
> SW would go into the homes of CW friends and openly share her disdain for how small a home was or how cheaply it appeared to have been constructed or decorated.
That's messed up. I could see her doing that though. If someone commented such to me, it would be the last time I spoke to them.
My issue isn't even the bright colors, the house just looked like a staged dollhouse to me. With the fake plastic plants, inspo quotes everywhere, empty and wide spaces, and lack of warmth or inviting atmosphere. The crime scene investigators even commented that the house was clean and staged to the point where it was unsettling.
Her background doing thrive and flipping houses definitely inspired her design choices. But even beyond that, the house just looked like how a 2000's teenager would decorate their first Sims house and not a 30 year old adult lol
Side note: we all know that the decor was 100% Shanann too because, according to Chris, she wouldn't even let him hang a picture up in his own house lmao
Hideous as well as cheap and tacky. The knickknacks all look like Delia Dietz from Beetlejuice had a yard sale. That nasty wall to wall carpeting and linoleum, the Thrive colored paint, the ugly furnishings, and that cheap Lowe's special kitchen all made for hideous house.
You guys might hate my house lol. But in my defense we are fun lively people and Iām an artist. Also we used a specific palette of coordinating colors. The house is mostly white but thereās some colored accent walls I guess. Anyway I donāt remember much of their house but was the master closet purple? That purple was heinous.
It was fine for the most part, sort of a Rooms by Design aesthetic, albeit not practical. It looked like a model home or bougie "gal getaway" Air B&B. In her defense, she was good at the concept of balancing decor - like having two equal size framed items on opposite sides of a panel.
What bothers me is that it was so impersonal. My home decor is eclectic. I might leave a wall blank for years and then one day I see a silly wall hanging of a smiling cow at Hobby Lobby and buy it because it makes me happy. SW seemed to prefer random canned art and wall adhesives with positive affirmations. It's like she saw a blank wall and bought something immediately with money she didn't have to say "yep, that has a decoration".
It's also impractical. Check out that terrific laundry room. There is a ton of storage space and shelves. The shelves have random "I'd rather be at the beach" decor instead of laundry detergent. It just looks like a waste of space and money.
The one thing I truly did not like was Bella's room. It looks like what an alien thinks a teenage girl would want, except for the boudoir black & white enormous poster of a pregnant SW wearing a bra and a shirtless CW. I do not know why anyone would put a somewhat soft porn poster in an infant's room.
Edit: laundry room video available starting at about 27:10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SititsybgzM&t=4717s
Poor quality but in this body cam video you can see the large b&w photos of SW and Cw above Bella's bed at about 52:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6dT-odISaM
Agree bicycle, kids love their posters and dolls, stuff toys of their heros in their homes. Helps with imaginary play, role play, comfort before bed etc. and all very cheap and easy to replace a Disney Princess poster or doll when they move up to unicorns š¦and fairy lights.
> It's also impractical. Check out that terrific laundry room.
Thanks for pointing this out. I never noticed this before. Who decorates a laundry room? Also, from that clip, it appears clothes are hanging from the shelf above the washer and dryer. Not actually hanging from a clothes rack or bar. The shelf complete with a beach theme and a fake palm tree.
Iām guilty of decorating mine . Iām in there enough , I wanted it to feel like the rest of the house . Hers just looks cold and sterile like the rest of the house . You donāt get a sense of who she is or her style there.
Omg Iām so jealous. I have a beautiful chair that looks like a high heel. It would be so good in there but I would have to move out some shelving. And Iām off to see if that can be done. People at my house are going to hate me.
Definitely didn't like those garish wall colors. The vivid lime in the kitchen stands out in my memory. Ugh.
That said, I like Earth tones for home colors, and black/gray/navy for clothes, and neutrals for make-up. I am very unadventurous and boring when it comes to color.
I just think she didnāt have a good sense of styleā¦ what she thought looked upscale (the lifestyle she wanted to present), just looked tacky.
Iām sure every bit of decor was chosen by her.
I thought whole house was horrible tbh. The awful brown exterior (it looks so much nicer the white colours the new owners have painted it), the empty rooms that were devoid of character. The colours were far too much for me personally...I'm more of a muted colours kind of woman š¤£ but they really were extreme...the lime green, the orange š¤®
From someone who likes simple, neutral colors in the home, I donāt like her decor. The colors are very aggressive. Especially the green kitchen and fake flowers. Cheap and tacky. The decor in the front room was weird, because it all looked too small for the space. No curtains at all in the downstairs. It looked staged by an amateur. I think the only two rooms I liked were the girls bedrooms, although they were a bit mature given the girls ages. I have to say her boldness with the colors showed her confidence. It was not personal though at all.
Aggressive is the perfect word to describe the decor. So very aggressive. Every photo āhurtsā my eyes. The house seems to attack or assault visually, and there is zero warmth or true personality other than aggressive. That house tells so much of their story.
The only room that were cute and looked like thought went into them was the girls rooms. They did look a little too perfect though with no toys. I know that had a toy room but I have no idea what it looked like. Other than that I felt it was cold and not warm and friendly. Wasnāt a cozy home to me.
Her color choice was not what I'd like, although I did like the kitchen / family room and upstairs loft. A lot of her statues and wall hangings were in her NC home.
> Doesnāt matter when they are at daycare or asleep most of the time
It's crazy to think how much time those kids spent away from their parents, mostly SW. They were either at daycare or sleeping for 12 hours starting on the dot at 6:30pm. And let's not forget all the time they spent away from SW when she was on her Thrive trips.
It seems like the only time the kids really spent with their mother was when she was taking them to doctors' appointments or using them for FB live content.
Unpopular opinion here. I'm not a fan of McMansions, but I like the bold colors she used. Not the girls' rooms so much but I liked the orange and green a lot. Even the purple. It would be too much on the walls, but I think it works on the ceiling. The decor is impersonal, and there's way too much space, but I like the bright colors.
I wish you shiners would stop trolling this sub.Ā Ā
These off topic questions are designed to elicit specific responses you then screech about elsewhere as proof that F4All is anti-S, "bashing" a murder victim and pro C.
It reminded me of a office/clubhouse at an apartment. My husband and I lived in a fairly expensive apartment when we first married and while the apartments were white throughout the clubhouse was so tacky. Every single room was a different bright color. It kind of made sense in that situation (pool room was orange, gym was green, etc) because they were trying to be over the top. But it looked odd in a home. It also seemed like she had no real clue about her taste. All the decor and artwork looked like it came from a showroom like the mini rooms the stores set up.
I will say, I didnāt hate the green in the kitchen. Definitely wouldnāt be my pick but it did brighten up those dark cabinets and appliances and it was virtually just one wall because of how the dining room was.
Edit: typo
Iām pretty sure those rooms were painted prior to Thrive - she worked at the dealership and the childrenās hospital before Thrive !
I remember seeing pictures
I personally think her taste was uglyā¦.and Iām always amazed when people commenting on the decor say the way she decorated was beautiful. It was horrible and tacky. The purple ceiling in the dining areaā¦the lime green kitchen horrendous and the kids room always seemed super dark.
I thought it was ghastly. I'm not a fan of McMansions in general, but theirs seemed so empty and devoid of personality. The colors are jarring, too. It almost looks like cardboard, like a very stripped down Barbie dream house.
The colors she used are Thrive colors... orange, lime green, blue, purple, and hot pink.
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It looks like every room was a nod at a Scooby doo characterĀ
Oh seriously? I didnāt even think of that!
š² thatās weird !
I agree. Tacky, not warm or inviting. Bad furniture for the space. Hideous colors. Wall to wall carpeting and linoleum. The weirdest decorated early 2000's out of style overpriced fart box. Its not important to the murders but i hate it. It looked..unlived in. Very weird home. Weird people living there too tbh. I dont know what to make of it.
Not real linoleum (a quality natural product) but vinyl
I thought it was ghastly too. So cold and forbidden. Nothing warm and inviting. Those colors were horrid too
It definitely did not feel lived in.
I did get fond of those Target color schemes of chocolate, orange, and aqua for awhile, but my gerberas were real š¤·š» her tastes would have undoubtedly have evolved, too.Ā
https://preview.redd.it/hw6pf4nkf74d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=799a6e898cb9b0d1184e15a2545b36000bfbb315 Interesting.
Wow!
Thatās interesting considering the house she had before she sold that stuff had similar colors.
It looks like 2000ās HGTV home makeovers
> It looks like 2000ās HGTV home makeovers Yes. And with all those storge bins stacked up against the walls, that house could have doubled for a storage unit in itself.
I didn't like it, the colours were all over the place, purple ceiling for no real reason in the dining room and then orange alcoves in the family room, crazy bright colours everywhere gave me a headache. Lime green kitchen with orange flowers, it's like an acid trip.
I had a friend whose mom was very mentally ill (not sure what exactly she was suffering from, but she was very odd). She was constantly painting walls and rooms the brightest most tropical colors. They lived in a McMansion in Littleton, Colorado. It was so strange.
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That is just ghastly
A dining room is really the only room where I would consider white walls and a color on the ceiling. The walls won't clash with dishes or flowers or whatever else is on the table. And the purple pulls the ceiling down for a cozier feel. Not that there was anything cozy about that house, but I do like bold colors. I have a teal wslls in the living room, yellow in the kitchen/dining area, and orange in my office/craft room. Not unlike an acid trip, but a good trip, LOL. Beige is boring to me.
I love having a colorful house too. It looks very depressing to me when everything is painted bland beige, light gray, or white.
Iām not brave enough to use color!
Sure I take your point on board, but the dining room didn't have a dining table in it, maybe they planned to over time. I didn't like it.
The dining room table got repossessed.
Did it really? Howād you find out this?
I remember reading about that. I believe it happened during their bankruptcy proceedings.
Story is amusing. They had a gigantic dining table in there they bought on credit. It was enormous and ugly. Was not paid for, but they put it on Craigās list for I think $500 for cash. Didnāt sell, and the furniture store sent their goons to repo it. Shanann threw a fit, would not let them in, and called the police. Police escorted the goons out WITH the table and chairs. Hence the room formerly known as Dining!
Wow!
Should have took the paint with them as well.
That should have happened with the rest of the furniture, too.
I was just about to say this.
The dining room set was repossessed after the bankruptcy. That was one store that said, um, no, you're not gonna pay for it, we are taking it back. Good for them.
Definitely not everyone's cup of tea.
Yeah I must admit I'm more of a beige, magnolia person myself. Navy blue, Forest green, Rust orange instead of bright orange, Ochre instead of bright yellow etc.
I love the warm autumn tones as well. Just depends on my mood, I guess.
Yeah my mood is consistently beige, haha.
It lacked warmth in its decor. Add a family and it still lacked warmth bc it looked like no one lived there even with four people, especially two kids of the four. CW worked outside, in dirt, etc. Yet, you see no boots, no jackets, nothing that most homes have laying around bc it's used every day.
I agree. Almost felt staged.
Even the crime scene technicians commented on his strange, overly clean it felt. You hear it on their cams.
I agree. The whole house felt so off. Not even a jacket or a hat any where. It really feels so fake and staged. The house really reflected her.
>Almost felt staged. It was.
Agreed. It was staged for her mlm business which was all about āselling a lifestyle.ā It felt like a model home, very generic, no actual warmth or personal touches. āLive Laugh Loveā and all that basic decor.
Is the āwords as decorationā thing done yet?
That's a good way of putting it.
The house was hideous. It screamed cheap & tacky. Every room was painted to match a different thrive product. That's insanity
Really? I never heard or picked up on the thrive products being incorporated into the homeā¦ wow! What a whacko!
I didn't know about it either until someone pointed it out. I wish I could find where I read it because they also had a picture of the packages and yup, I think the playroom colors, the kitchen, and one other room I think(I just saw 3 packages but there might've been some to match all rooms.) It's odd though, she really was all about thriving.
It honestly seemed like she REALLY DID believe deeply in these products!! Chris said as much in the interrogation room too..that thrive really worked and changed their lives. I think she really did think it was the sh*t and that's why she talked abt it non stop and even decorated the house using thrive as inspo. Cookoo for coco puffs, that one. (But no she didn't deserve to die) lol
Well, he was right about one thing-it changed their lives.
She could have provided a healthy diet for herself and her family and did some exercise. But no! Green mint ice cream Thrive shakes!
Purple in (repossessed) dining room Lime green in kitchen & play room Orange in family room Bright blue & hot pink in CeCe's room All colors found on Thrive boxes
Shanann's closet and the girl's bathroom were hot pink. The laundry room and guest bathroom were blue.
I canāt understand why?? I think they tell you in MLM you arenāt selling a product youāre selling a lifestyle.. so maybe she took that seriously? Poor girl was very off path.
She wasn't very intelligent, honestly. I wouldn't be surprised if she took it literally.
True
I agree
Folks right there tells you everything you need to know. That is some bat shit drink the kool aid crazy.
She had terrible taste.
It looked like a home in a lifetime channel film that they just rent for a weekend to shoot a low budget movie.
Wow, yes, you nailed it šÆ
Iāve always thought it strange that with both girls being in day care, there are absolutely NO displays of their crafts or art works/writings hanging on the refrigerator or displayed elsewhere in the house! I have ages 6 and 8 yr old great nieces, who have drawn me pictures over the years and they cover my refrigerator, and they live out of state! But, I love their little drawingsā¦.so they hang on the front and side of my refrigerator
My children are 33 and 35 yrs old and I still have the ornaments they made in elementary school for our Xmas tree.
Me too! Mine are 38 and 41! I still hang them every year š„°
Mine has also been covered with drawing or school awards. Right now, no bc we moved and I have them in a small Rubbermaid container for safety. I also have kept cards and school photos. Although parents don't buy those like they used to š¤
Iāve got young kids and the art projects are everywhere, and always multiplying! not that I mind at all, I love seeing them being creative and taking pride in their work. I think most parents I know have a similar problem that youāve got to be somewhat sneaky and selective about which ācreationsā get tossed when itās time to cull some things from the old portfolio. all this to say that it is very odd that we donāt see any kids arts/crafts stuff anywhere in those videos, ever. I suppose it fits, as they never were shown or even discussed any creative outlets for the girls.
Why were the girls in daycare if she was a SAHM who was involved in an MLM, thatās not a job. I canāt justify the cost. (Also new to this, all I knew were the basics, husband annihilated his family to be with mistress, so Iām just now learning all of the gritty details)
That is a question thatās been asked a million times! I canāt justify it either. They had no business being in full time daycare! Two days a week for socialization, I can get behind. But certainly not 5days a week for nine hours a day. Literally, she could not parent her girls! She loved the āMomā title, but she was certainly no āmotherā!
I thought the whole place looked like it was straight from Rent a Center or Rooms To-Go. Cheap, tacky and no warmth. Also, a home without books/bookshelves has always been a red flag for me.
Same!
https://preview.redd.it/x40p63fpt84d1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1147ede9b8d979d3fa4231dcc8197dab94c3a2b6 I wouldn't know what to do without books.
I'm a bookworm myself! You have a nice, inviting home. The exact opposite of the Watts Sanatorium.
Lovely!
Beautiful! Neither could I, but these two were dumb and did not read.
I like your tile. Weāre redoing our floors and Iām having a hard time choosing what I can live with forever. š
The house was filled with cheap and tacky Hobby Lobby decor throughout every room. I know, I worked for them at the time and spotted so much of it. Drove me nuts!!
Hobby Lobby was my thought too! Originality not allowed
And Big Lots lol
The basement had more warmth and personality than the house did. The home reflected the truth about their life. Barely any furnishings in the McMansion. Thrive color walls. Tacky signage in the closet. The girls, if they weren't drugged up on Tylenol and Benadryl, were barely allowed to play with toys - God forbid they make a mess. There were no artifacts the house was lived in. It was a house, a long way from being a home.
Iām from Miami, I love bright colors and modern edgy decor. Their house was not it. They spent so much money on furniture and home goods, but it looked tacky and cheap. I think itās the Thrive brand color scheme that threw me off.
Exactly. I am a maximalist and love bright colors and ostentatious decor. But this house was something different. It was like maximalism trying to be minimalism. It didnāt work at all. Itās one of the only houses Iāve seen with bright colors that Iāve really disliked.
Shannonās taste in home decor was the least of her problems!!
For real! Mental problems took priority š¤
Have you ever driven by a furniture store āsidewalk saleā where they have their tacky, cheap looking statues, book ends, and other tchotchkes on clearance? It looks like she went crazy at those sales.
I always suspected she bought all of the furniture/decor as a package from a furniture store. It doesnāt seem to be pieces you find in any actual store.
In the bankruptcy ppwk they owed $14k to Furniture Row.
It is amazing they didn't pay for anything they got. Just charged it all and never paid it back. Just gross
And 3 years later was back in the same situation. Credit cards maxed out, being sued by the HOA association, tapping into cws 401k to make the mortgage current, it's absolutely mind boggling.
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It looked like SW picked her rooms from an Ikea catalogue. Except for The heavy, oppressive bedroom furniture
Ikea is way nicer than that crap in her house.
You're right-- I think the Ikea taste level is far above Shannon's bizarre idea of home glamour. (Ikea carries some furniture that falls apart quickly, and much that is good quality; I've had both.) I think the Ikea aesthetic would baffle our gal, who seemed to choose furniture that could be easily hosed down if ever invaded by dust. I can see her purchasing from rooms from online catalogues like Wayfair and Hobby Lobby. I recognized one lamp in the living room that came from Target's Pillowfort line for children's clothing. What really freaks me out is the bedroom the Duchess of Saratoga Trail chose for herself. Not only is all that wiggling wood incredibly ugly and heavy; it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the house.
That bed looked like a cage. Hideous, pretentious, ridiculous.
She painted the house with Thrive Colors
Looked like a cheap model home.
It was a cheap model home. The builder also has so many lawsuits against them because the houses are made like shit. They also couldn't afford any upgrades, and the layout of the house is just... strange. There's another model of that home in the neighborhood on an actual decent sized lot, and it looks so much better since they could actually afford to customize it. The Watts had the bare bones model, and it showed.
It baffled me why anyone would want a house THAT huge (about 4,000 sq. ft.), but yet being unable to have anything but bare-bones everything! I mean, they had linoleum flooring in the kitchen/dining area, and carpet in the rest of the house. There wasnāt a single part of the house with hardwood (or even laminate) or tile flooring. Now thereās nothing wrong with linoleum & carpet, but itās just that when youāre paying for a brand-new 4,000 sq ft house, you would expect it would have those things. Otherwise, why not get a 3,000 sq ft house instead so that you CAN afford to get better than base-model, cheapest, most bare-bones EVERYTHING?? (I hope iām making sense here.)
She was obsessed with huge houses it seems. And she had no personal sense of style. Or any interests at all outside presenting a fake life and going into debt over pyramid schemes.What did she and CW talk about? I bet NK did feel like a break of fresh air after the stress of dealing with Shannan.
That is one of the first things I noticed. The floors were of the poorest quality. Really cheap. All that money and it looked like HOme Depot carpet and linoleum.
The carpet is SO cheap looking
The lack of proportion bothers people subconscious too
That is a great point
The layout is very strange. A lot of empty space (2 story living room), the landing upstairs along with a huge formal living room along with family room. The space was not used well at all.
The three windows in the second storey/front of the house (above and to the right of the front door) were windows to nowhere. Glorified skylights. What a weird design. I don't recall seeing a ceiling fan?? So, in the Colorado winter, all the heat is going to rise up into that empty space. Would cost a fortune. Or maybe they weren't using the heating?? I don't know.
If you watch the police cam video, you can see ceiling fans running upstairs. Two of them, I believe. I think CW was using them to air out the smell of God knows what and also to dissipate the smell of bleach.
Yup. He was running those ceiling fans at frenzied speed in the dash cam vids Iāve seen. And didnāt he tell NK he was doing the kids laundry bc the sheets smelled? I kind of remember thatā¦.
Thanks. I have viewed a lot (but not all) of the body cam footage. I obviously missed the fans. But that certainly makes sense to have them in that huge empty ceiling spaceš
Agree
I canāt get over how it has almost zero yard. The big ugly house takes the entire lot. No thanks.
I kinda liked the green in the kitchen, but the rest of the colours, especially when mixed up with one another, were absolutely hideous. She could have carried lovely muted greens throughout the house, with a sandy beige, and that would have been great. But noooooo lol
I said the same thing. I didnāt hate the green. The cabinets were so dark along with the appliances and backsplash that it kind of helped brighten up a room that would otherwise feel very dark. Outside of that, not a fan.
Itās like a thirteen year old had a copy of her sisterās seventeen magazine and a vision board.
I really don't have an issue with how the home was painted or decorated (although it did seem cold to me) because everyone has their own taste. What I do have a problem with is that most, if not all, was purchased on credit that they had no intention of paying back. I mean seriously, where do you draw the line, 10k?, 20k?, 30k? Nope, with them it was 70k of unsecured debt and other than the dining room set they kept it all. And learned absolutely nothing.
Yes. I think of that often. She bought that stuff with no intention of ever paying for it. How gross is that? Then after getting all the furniture for nothing, writing it off in a bankruptcy, she went ahead and bought more garbage, most likely Thrive crap to buy her rank. I find it very disgusting. It was fraud, plain and simple.
were there ever any details on exactly what went down when the furniture company had to get the sheriff involved to repo the dining room set? also, how close was that in time to when they had the vehicle repoād? I thought I remembered reading that CW had. Classic mustang that he was forced to sell (not an awful thing on its own, if you have an impractical car and then have kids. sorry, boss, if you canāt afford them both, the toys have got to go.) and then the Explorer they bought was repoād within a few short months. Was the Ford Explorer repoād by the same dealership that used to employ both of them? If so, thatās gotta sting even moreso than it ordinarily would.
I thought it was hideous. The purple ceiling in the dining room and then the lime green kitchen were awful but we all know that no one dared speak up and say it was awful.
> but we all know that no one dared speak up and say it was awful. No doubt. I'm sure anyone that came to visit or stay with them likely had to pretend to like the look and colors of the house all the while telling SW what an incredible decorator she was.
normally I could give two shits about how terribly someone decorates their own home. her taste/decorating sense was ass. I do take note and care to comment in this instance because it has been noted that when they were still living in NC, SW would go into the homes of CW friends and openly share her disdain for how small a home was or how cheaply it appeared to have been constructed or decorated. to know that she behaved in such a manner is just disgusting. Imagine having to apologize for your fiancƩ acting like that the first time she met some of your friends. Those two fucking trolls deserved one another, just an absolute shame they were able to conceive.
I had read about this. I was appalled. She even criticized the room temps of the homes, and offered to share her HVAC person's number! She would not touch the dinners that were made for her , either. All she did was insult people and talk about how big her house was. She was never a nice person, not ever.
who in the fuck behaves like this?! I honestly have never heard of someone behaving like such a boor while a guest in someone elseās home.
I know, right? At the Christmas parties, his co-workers would sit as far away from them as they could get. NO one liked her. And he made excuses for her, saying she had a bad day!!! This dim wit married her knowing exactly what she was like. He gets no pity from me. I have never seen such a spineless excuse for a man.
do you happen to recall where you read about this from his co-workers? Holy shit I just canāt get over him being in the position of having to apologize for her āhaving a bad dayā on multiple occasions and still not having the stones to just walk the fuck away. The fake persona of St. Shannan that has been propagated just because she happened to be a murder victim is one of the most disingenuous things Iāve ever seen. She was a bullheaded shitheel, just say so.
> Those two fucking trolls deserved one another And that should have been it. Not kids unfortunately involved.
the lack of self awareness is just astonishing. you have this moron who apparently didnāt graduate high school until the ago of 20, with no further education, no career or otherwise marketable skills looking down her nose and outright insulting hard working people in their own home. all of this while she was in the process of having to short sell her home she had just purchased and defaulting on all of the furniture within, that she had purchased on credit. an absolute pig. Itās funny that her equally smooth-brained family and the cult of Shiners go silent when these ugly details come to the surface. She was throwing up red flags left and right, CWās family saw them, and peanuthead blew right by them all like they were checkpoints. Iām still not entirely convinced he isnāt mentally retarded.
> SW would go into the homes of CW friends and openly share her disdain for how small a home was or how cheaply it appeared to have been constructed or decorated. That's messed up. I could see her doing that though. If someone commented such to me, it would be the last time I spoke to them.
So much of the Shannon saga is The Emperors New Clothes
My issue isn't even the bright colors, the house just looked like a staged dollhouse to me. With the fake plastic plants, inspo quotes everywhere, empty and wide spaces, and lack of warmth or inviting atmosphere. The crime scene investigators even commented that the house was clean and staged to the point where it was unsettling. Her background doing thrive and flipping houses definitely inspired her design choices. But even beyond that, the house just looked like how a 2000's teenager would decorate their first Sims house and not a 30 year old adult lol Side note: we all know that the decor was 100% Shanann too because, according to Chris, she wouldn't even let him hang a picture up in his own house lmao
Hideous as well as cheap and tacky. The knickknacks all look like Delia Dietz from Beetlejuice had a yard sale. That nasty wall to wall carpeting and linoleum, the Thrive colored paint, the ugly furnishings, and that cheap Lowe's special kitchen all made for hideous house.
Tacky and immature
This post? Agreed.
You guys might hate my house lol. But in my defense we are fun lively people and Iām an artist. Also we used a specific palette of coordinating colors. The house is mostly white but thereās some colored accent walls I guess. Anyway I donāt remember much of their house but was the master closet purple? That purple was heinous.
Heinous and dark
Bellaās room looked like a bordello.
Yes, it did!!
Yeah, Iāve always thought the girlsā rooms look straight from a whorehouse.
You been in a lot of whorehouses, have you?
I just peed my pants a little šššššš
It was fine for the most part, sort of a Rooms by Design aesthetic, albeit not practical. It looked like a model home or bougie "gal getaway" Air B&B. In her defense, she was good at the concept of balancing decor - like having two equal size framed items on opposite sides of a panel. What bothers me is that it was so impersonal. My home decor is eclectic. I might leave a wall blank for years and then one day I see a silly wall hanging of a smiling cow at Hobby Lobby and buy it because it makes me happy. SW seemed to prefer random canned art and wall adhesives with positive affirmations. It's like she saw a blank wall and bought something immediately with money she didn't have to say "yep, that has a decoration". It's also impractical. Check out that terrific laundry room. There is a ton of storage space and shelves. The shelves have random "I'd rather be at the beach" decor instead of laundry detergent. It just looks like a waste of space and money. The one thing I truly did not like was Bella's room. It looks like what an alien thinks a teenage girl would want, except for the boudoir black & white enormous poster of a pregnant SW wearing a bra and a shirtless CW. I do not know why anyone would put a somewhat soft porn poster in an infant's room. Edit: laundry room video available starting at about 27:10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SititsybgzM&t=4717s Poor quality but in this body cam video you can see the large b&w photos of SW and Cw above Bella's bed at about 52:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6dT-odISaM
Iāve never seen the pregnancy photo in the babies room.. Iām going search!
It's so tacky and ugly, just like everything else about her.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the girls' bedrooms reminded me of bordellos.
The name over the door of Bellaās was always strange to me
CeCe had her name on a wall, too. And the rooms had a dark feel to them. Bella loved Ariel but Ariel appeared no where in her bedroom.ā¹ļø
Agree bicycle, kids love their posters and dolls, stuff toys of their heros in their homes. Helps with imaginary play, role play, comfort before bed etc. and all very cheap and easy to replace a Disney Princess poster or doll when they move up to unicorns š¦and fairy lights.
> It's also impractical. Check out that terrific laundry room. Thanks for pointing this out. I never noticed this before. Who decorates a laundry room? Also, from that clip, it appears clothes are hanging from the shelf above the washer and dryer. Not actually hanging from a clothes rack or bar. The shelf complete with a beach theme and a fake palm tree.
šāāļø my laundry room has a mural on the wall and a pink chandelier. Because Iām fabulous.
Haha nice!
Iām guilty of decorating mine . Iām in there enough , I wanted it to feel like the rest of the house . Hers just looks cold and sterile like the rest of the house . You donāt get a sense of who she is or her style there.
I just commented above, also guilty. I have a mural on one wall and a pink chandelier. Because Iām fabulous.
Lol, I have a hot pink chandelier in there too and a leopard print chaise lounge chair cuz same ā¤ļøš¤£
Omg Iām so jealous. I have a beautiful chair that looks like a high heel. It would be so good in there but I would have to move out some shelving. And Iām off to see if that can be done. People at my house are going to hate me.
Do it Do it !!!!
I feel like her style was others have commented that it was Thrive themed but nothing personal on her end.
I have not seen this photo
I updated my comment with a link.
Hideous.
I am so bad at home decor that hers was better than I could do, lol. The new/ soon to be former/ residents added alot, especially to the girls rooms.
What struck me most was how empty the house was. Almost devoid of furniture and decor.Ā It speaks of their financial woes.
Definitely didn't like those garish wall colors. The vivid lime in the kitchen stands out in my memory. Ugh. That said, I like Earth tones for home colors, and black/gray/navy for clothes, and neutrals for make-up. I am very unadventurous and boring when it comes to color.
What furniture? All I saw was a kitchen and the other rooms pretty bare ... a couch here and there. What I noticed was a lot of unused space.
I just think she didnāt have a good sense of styleā¦ what she thought looked upscale (the lifestyle she wanted to present), just looked tacky. Iām sure every bit of decor was chosen by her.
I thought whole house was horrible tbh. The awful brown exterior (it looks so much nicer the white colours the new owners have painted it), the empty rooms that were devoid of character. The colours were far too much for me personally...I'm more of a muted colours kind of woman š¤£ but they really were extreme...the lime green, the orange š¤®
From someone who likes simple, neutral colors in the home, I donāt like her decor. The colors are very aggressive. Especially the green kitchen and fake flowers. Cheap and tacky. The decor in the front room was weird, because it all looked too small for the space. No curtains at all in the downstairs. It looked staged by an amateur. I think the only two rooms I liked were the girls bedrooms, although they were a bit mature given the girls ages. I have to say her boldness with the colors showed her confidence. It was not personal though at all.
Aggressive is the perfect word to describe the decor. So very aggressive. Every photo āhurtsā my eyes. The house seems to attack or assault visually, and there is zero warmth or true personality other than aggressive. That house tells so much of their story.
The only room that were cute and looked like thought went into them was the girls rooms. They did look a little too perfect though with no toys. I know that had a toy room but I have no idea what it looked like. Other than that I felt it was cold and not warm and friendly. Wasnāt a cozy home to me.
Does anyone have any photos of the house while they lived there?
Very late 80s furniture and decor with disgusting colors.
Her color choice was not what I'd like, although I did like the kitchen / family room and upstairs loft. A lot of her statues and wall hangings were in her NC home.
Huge fragile sculpture art things on glass tables. Totally toddler friendly
Doesnāt matter when they are at daycare or asleep most of the time š”š«
> Doesnāt matter when they are at daycare or asleep most of the time It's crazy to think how much time those kids spent away from their parents, mostly SW. They were either at daycare or sleeping for 12 hours starting on the dot at 6:30pm. And let's not forget all the time they spent away from SW when she was on her Thrive trips. It seems like the only time the kids really spent with their mother was when she was taking them to doctors' appointments or using them for FB live content.
That thing looks like a toilet paper sculpture. !
I have surplus toilet paper stored in the basement, and thatās EXACTLY what it looks like!
I've never enjoyed owning g glass top tables bc of kid and grandkids. Little ones seem to enjoy standing on them a bit too much for my comfort š«£
The wall colors were Thrive inspired I heard
Someone else mentioned thatā¦ I hadnāt heard that beforeā¦ how unhinged ??
I know!!!!!!
Yep I heard that too. It tracks because those colors were on several of the products.
I always felt like it showed zero personality.You donāt feel anything looking at it . You get no sense of the family there. No love in the details.
To each his own.
Unpopular opinion here. I'm not a fan of McMansions, but I like the bold colors she used. Not the girls' rooms so much but I liked the orange and green a lot. Even the purple. It would be too much on the walls, but I think it works on the ceiling. The decor is impersonal, and there's way too much space, but I like the bright colors.
I wish you shiners would stop trolling this sub.Ā Ā These off topic questions are designed to elicit specific responses you then screech about elsewhere as proof that F4All is anti-S, "bashing" a murder victim and pro C.
The whole house echoed. Bad proportions
It reminded me of a office/clubhouse at an apartment. My husband and I lived in a fairly expensive apartment when we first married and while the apartments were white throughout the clubhouse was so tacky. Every single room was a different bright color. It kind of made sense in that situation (pool room was orange, gym was green, etc) because they were trying to be over the top. But it looked odd in a home. It also seemed like she had no real clue about her taste. All the decor and artwork looked like it came from a showroom like the mini rooms the stores set up. I will say, I didnāt hate the green in the kitchen. Definitely wouldnāt be my pick but it did brighten up those dark cabinets and appliances and it was virtually just one wall because of how the dining room was. Edit: typo
The color schemes made no sense to me
Did anyone notice that the flowers and plants that appear in the videos from inside the house appear to be those fake plastic ones?
Iām pretty sure those rooms were painted prior to Thrive - she worked at the dealership and the childrenās hospital before Thrive ! I remember seeing pictures
Not pretty. Not hideous (unless it was her closet)but not pretty. No clue what she was doing
I think the closet said glamorous or something on the walls?
Gorgeous? I think
Iām wondering what colors Chris Watts picked for his prison cell?
Itās been reported he has photos of her and kids on the cell wallā¦.. which isā¦ wow!
I've never heard of someone being allowed to keep pics of their victims in their cell til this case
Where did he get the photos is what I wonderā¦
Thatās why heās happy in prison. He doesnāt like to have to think
The Watts house had no sun coming in and no indoor plantsā¦ just like the Hoess Nazi manse in ZONE OF INTEREST
I personally think her taste was uglyā¦.and Iām always amazed when people commenting on the decor say the way she decorated was beautiful. It was horrible and tacky. The purple ceiling in the dining areaā¦the lime green kitchen horrendous and the kids room always seemed super dark.
Tacky and hideous colours. Her house felt very cold to me. Sparsely furnished. Did not feel homey at all.