I’m in the US and was deployed with the Australian Army. They couldn’t say a single good thing about the AUG. I shot it to “qualify” basically shooting every firing mode and most firing positions. The gun jammed 6 times in 60 rounds over the span of about 2 minutes. Trust me, not worth it. Cannot go on burst or full auto without a jam in 10 rounds and single fire is sub par at best. Looks cool though lol
I have one, amazing. The only things you have to do to it are make sure it is NATO version not australian like mine for mag conpatability. And throw in an aluminun sear and the buildup trigger will turn into a cheap ar15 trigger. Amazing upgrade.
I remember the governor had an AUG A1 mocked up to be an auto conversion of the AUG SA ( as they were imported to the US ) in season 3 of the walking dead and i remember it looking badass
VHS-2. I have the semi auto import version, the Springfield Hellion. I like it quite a bit. 40 and 60 round mags fit just fine. I went with a keymod forward grip rather than putting a rail on the bottom of the foregrip. I do still need to find a good sling for it though.
Tavor, ejection and clearing is less complicated over FN and Desert Tech, and the LOP is better than Hellion
Obviously want something that takes stanag
Actually no I dont, I just like the look of them. If I really had my choice, it'd be a suppressed Ruger 10/22. .22lr is a very common round, no recoil, and it's subsonic so it makes less of a crack when fired.
Sounds about right. Has one of the better trigger outside the box but with Geissele upgrades, its pretty much the best. Manticore arms makes a great upgrade to the ejection port cover. Backup sights aren't bad. Flow through suppressors do just fine.
AUG, seems like a nice runner up but don't think the aftermarket support is there.
SA80 is objectively pretty mid, but I'm in the UK and that's what our armed forces use, so it's the only option I have a real chance of reliably scavenging spare parts for. AUG comes at a close 2nd place bc of its iconic looks - everything else either looks shit, is too rare to find spare parts for, or doesn't use 5.56 NATO ammo so I won't be able to scavenge for it.
Yeah I’m from the UK too and with fire arms being so limited this is probably our options. I kinda hate the SA80 and vastly preferred the AUG from when I was in Gibraltar. However I live in the middle of nowhere in Scotland so I doubt I’d even bother trying to get my hands on anything not scavenged from a farm or gamekeepers house
damn, jealous that you got to handle an AUG mate! yeah, if you're in a rural area then shotgun shells or some hunting rifle calibres are probably the only thing you could find...
What did they get right about it?
It's got kind of a fucked fire control group, has basically every problem every other bullpup has, and the original version could neither use normal 5.56 ammunition nor NATO-standard 5.56 magazines, and they've kind of been shit rifles their entire life cycle.
Hell, the French Army is replacing the things with AR-15s.
That’s fair. I was mostly making a France joke lol, sorry. It’s not the best, but I have handled it more than other bullpups, so that’s why I chose that one at first.
Same. I’ve wanted an aug since I was a kid lol. I’ve always loved the way they look. Then I started actually reading about their performance and they are actually pretty good guns. The tar 21 pretty much the same thing except I didn’t really get into them later in life
Yeah I learned more about the TAR even tho I like the Aug more lol. The Tar is actually Israeli manufactured and created, which I would have never guessed when I was younger. It was created to be the same to them as the M4 is to the US. It was also created on the basis that it was to outperform the M4 in every way and it succeeded in the endeavor according to field testing, thought that was pretty cool.
Better pick something with ammo that's available and not your personal favorite or choice because the "that ammo is hard to find" police will get on your case...
Haha Who hurt you?
It’s ok, seems like you choose to think of the scenario like a video game, where it’s assumed all other things are equal.
Others think of it as how they would use the rifle in their actual location and life
Different strokes, maybe the prompts need to be more clear or normalized for ammo availability
The issue is that people will say that about literaly anything that isn’t 9mm or 5.56. It’s like they think those are the only things that exist in the US.
Literally. We're two models ahead now on the A3 but it's still a piece of shit. New proper rifle to be coming into service by 2025 though. Royal marines already have it and it's sexy
There was a couple videos of the A1 version being used on YouTube, and parts would fall off when it was being fired.
I've also seen 2 of the SA80A1 rifles here in the USA, and they had some parts being held on with hose clamps.
That’s an A1 so not a good idea, even later variants are still not ideal.
1) the SA80 is heavy as fuck. 11 pounds, an m16 was like 7, every gun here are lighter than it
2) even A2 and above with the mag release guard added, you still can accidentally bump on the mag release and loss your mag when you carrying it with a sling.
AUG. You can get it with the STANAG magwell. It's got the least offensive bullpup trigger. It has features I like and a manual of arms that were designed with a human being in mind, not a tentacle monster with ten arms.
Half of these are AK's in a bullpup chassis, so it's an AK trigger combined with a bullpup trigger. Yikes. Half the rest are a bunch of shitbox European jank, looking at you L86 and FAMAS. The Croatian gun is fine, but good luck finding a steady supply of replacement parts. The F2000 doesn't seem to be in production anymore. The DesertTech gun is expensive and niche. That Polish gun just doesn't exist outside of Poland.
Nah, I tried one, didn't care for it, didn't care for the people who made it, so I bought the Hellion instead. It has almost the exact opposite provblem. It's made by people I like (HS Produkt) but imported by people I'm ambivalent about )Springfield), it has incredible durability, a rugged AR180 operating mechanism, a durable and reliable gas tappet system for low maintenance, comfortable controls that remind me of my more familiar G3/HK91s, outstanding accuracy, a very simple and reliable left to right hand ejection swap, a very simple way to keep casings out of your face (no forward eject doohickey, just a piece of plastic that keeps your face behind the ejection port) and a kinda pretty bad trigger. It's also heavier than it should be, but that seems to be a typical thing for bullpups.
I'd like to have an AUG some day but I have to move to a state where the only way to have one isn't to grandfather it.
Well thank you for that breakdown. And as to living in the land of restrictive gun laws, yeah owning an AR in my state requires you to drop three grand on a shot out Colt with Vietnam flashbacks furniture.
The sa80 is a piece of shit the germans had to fix and you have an A1 pictured so even worse
Famas is basically unobtainium, cool though
I’m not sure what caliber the pictured groza is, but could work, i think it takes AK mags depending on caliber so thats a big plus
The PDR never left the prototype stage so may be finicky
Good luck finding ammo for the QBZ
Same with the ShAK-12
Tars a good option but they are overgassed to high hell
RM is a good powerful option, but is heavy with a shit ton of recoil, not exactly what id want to carry around
I don’t know too much about the MSBS other than it slapped in COD Ghosts
MDR could be a good option but id say there are better options
Im not sure how this one runs or works, i know it is South African though
I think the Malyuk is literally a bullpup AK so the trigger is probably shit
Aug is probably the best option here as its proven and has a lot of spare parts almost everywhere
VHS, not sure how well it is i heard its good though
F2000, Tactical Tuna Boat
I actually just went down this Wikipedia rabbit hole last night and I think I’d have to go with the tavor. Aug would be second. Shame because aug is my favorite aesthetically.
Either the AUG, or the desert tech MDR. the MDR has dual caliber, so I would have two pools of ammo. The AUG is the most common bullpup around, (and also the simplest to maintain) so it should last a while. Depending on how long the plastic parts will last.
Most Bullpup models have a severe issue with clearing stoppages as well as vulnerability to mud so really the benefit provided isn't greatly worth that cost especially in a zombie situation.
So I wouldn't use one. If I was forced to, then the FAMAS. It has a nice big open ejection port and I can get a good view of the action, has an inbuilt bipod which can be quite nice for when in a fixed position and overall has a pretty good service record.
Steyr AUG is the only bull pup with an extensive reliable service record, so that all day as long as it’s the variety that takes standard STANAG AR magazines
I guess I learned a new term today.! This post somehow found it's way to my feed and I just like subcompact or SBR firearms. I didn't know what a Bullpup was. I figured it was a manufacturer. Well, now i know.! Pretty interesting.
The SA80 is dangerously unreliable in its original form, and it took more than the cost of development to get H&K to get it barely to the point where it was just adequate as a service rifle. Now they're replacing it with an AR.
The FAMAS is cool but it won't run on brass cased ammo and the mags are disposable. The F2 improved these problems but it's not on the list.
The Groza is kind of a kludge and very cumbersome to operate. I also find them heavy and weirdly balanced.
Did the PDR ever actually get built or was that just an airsoft gun? I don't know enough about it to say.
QBZ95 makes a nice boat anchor for when you don't want to get your actual boat anchor dirty.
SHAK-12 looks like a shotgun. I am iffy on mag-fed shotguns, especially bullpups. I don't have much luck with them. So without knowing anything else about this gun I'm gonna steer clear.
TAR21 is a good, reliable and sturdy gun with modern features and lackluster accuracy. I'd take it if I couldn't have my VHS2.
RM277 doesn't really exist in a form that can be evaluated. I'm gonna call that a beta test model and steer clear.
GROT-C is supposed to be alright. I don't know enough about the bullpup version but some of my cousins and my aunt say they have durability problems.
MDR seems fine for Tuesday, but I don't like the optic mount or the durability/complexity issues it seems to have. It comes apart like a weird clamshell. For as much as it costs it shouldn't take down like a Kel Tec. I would be iffy about running one in the apocalypse.
The Vektor CR22 is almost literally just a Galil in drag. I love it and I want one badly, but there's no way I'd trust it in an emergency. They basically drew a picture of how they wanted it to work and then made gun parts fit inside the plastic shell. It's built the way I used to build my airsoft guns.
Malyuk is a little new to the global scene to trust yet. I hope to see more about it.
AUG is wonderful. But it's a little lacking in modern features and the ergonomics are a little weird for me. I would take it if I had to but I'd rather have one just for fun and use my VHS2 for fighting.
VHS2 - I have one of these. Aside from the fact that ZERO parts availability makes me a little squeamish, I love it. It's stupid accurate, it'll shoot anything I can cram into the chamber, ergonomics fit my weirdly shaped body well, manual of arms is EXTREMELY familiar to anyone who's ever run a G3 or MP5 for any length of time, it is very well balanced, and careful use of accumulation spots makes the gun just keep running on and on even when excessive fouling has occurred. I have found it to be significantly heavier than it needs to be, and the trigger is awful, but I grew up shooting awful triggers on surplus guns and my HK91 home builds, so basically, if you can shoot a GLOCK fine, then the trigger on a VHS2 won't be an issue for you. The length of pull is fine unless you're a toddler.
I currently have mine set up with a Primary Arms PLx 1-8 (the model just before the lightweight one came out), a BCM short foregrip mounted backwards just in ffront of the trigger guard, an Inforce WML white/infrared lamp riding on the left side so I can run it with night vision, and a Magpul 2-point quick adjustable sling. I swapped the factory flash hider for a linear comp to make it less concussive indoors or on covered ranges, and I run a jungle taped double mag of MK262. For legal reasons I must state that the gun has been professionally converted to a straight pull bolt-action in order to comply with the terms of the Illinois assault weapon ban. The professional conversion definitely is not just a piece of threaded rod and two Nylock nuts jammed in where the gas tappet pin belongs.
The F2000 is an old bucket list gun for me. I want one \*bad\*. But it's because it's a cool gun, not a particularly good gun. They actually do legit shoot REAL nice. They run great if they're clean, kept dry, fed high quality brass-cased ammo, and all worn parts replaced regularly. But it remains the only gun I have ever seen get a \*quadruple\* feed. And I've seen it twice. Granted, same gun, could have been a particular damaged or worn part. But still. It was a nightmare to clear.
Aug, ammo is common. Magazines are common ish. Comes with a free scope, which is good because in an apocalypse scenario, I'd need to be capable of longer range combat, as optimally I want to finish any gunfight only using a handful of rounds and without being spotted.
RM277 is probably the best. I heard lots of good things about it and can't tell if the military went with Sig purely for loyalty and manufacturing capability despite the advantages of this bullpup or if it wasn't that good after all.
Will this be another Dragon Skin armor situation where rumors hyped up a piece of military equipment that actually failed in testing or did the military make a mistake?
Also they are literally just AKs so you could find mags ammo and parts pretty easily, contrary to what most people in this sub seem to think AKs are EVERYWHERE in the US.
Probably the TAR-21, because the ammo is easy to find, simple chambering mechanism, and just a good light gun. The AUG is probably second for the same reasons, but the a practical scope would be hard to attach because you’re gonna need a new receiver (on the A1 at least).
None. No one (aside from the french) went out to make a great rifle and came up with a bullpup. Past that for half of these I'm mot willing to give up certain administrative abilities and for the other half they get filthy really fucking quick. And cleaning supplies are going to dry up faster than most other things.
Whichever one is shortest and therefore easiest to stick in my mouth and pull the trigger. Seriously, would not want to be stuck in the apocalypse with a bullpup. Too complicated and hard to maintain/ repair for the average human.
I don't have anything against bullpups per see, I just never have been able to justify spending 800$ extra for what basically amounts to m4 with a lousy trigger that happens to look cool.
Hand me the aug
Great choice, reliable firearm chambered in an extremely common round in NATO countries.
From a realistic standpoint the Aug is a terrible choice because it doesn't take m4 mags
The AUG NATO stock takes AR mags.
I’m in the US and was deployed with the Australian Army. They couldn’t say a single good thing about the AUG. I shot it to “qualify” basically shooting every firing mode and most firing positions. The gun jammed 6 times in 60 rounds over the span of about 2 minutes. Trust me, not worth it. Cannot go on burst or full auto without a jam in 10 rounds and single fire is sub par at best. Looks cool though lol
I have one, amazing. The only things you have to do to it are make sure it is NATO version not australian like mine for mag conpatability. And throw in an aluminun sear and the buildup trigger will turn into a cheap ar15 trigger. Amazing upgrade.
I remember the governor had an AUG A1 mocked up to be an auto conversion of the AUG SA ( as they were imported to the US ) in season 3 of the walking dead and i remember it looking badass
AUG. Knew the answer before looking thru your list.
VHS-2. I have the semi auto import version, the Springfield Hellion. I like it quite a bit. 40 and 60 round mags fit just fine. I went with a keymod forward grip rather than putting a rail on the bottom of the foregrip. I do still need to find a good sling for it though.
You need to throw the monkey nuts in it so you can cosplay a Helghast
I understood that reference ^
Aug, just cause I like em
Tavor, ejection and clearing is less complicated over FN and Desert Tech, and the LOP is better than Hellion Obviously want something that takes stanag
It's between the AUG and the FAMAS
Im guessing you play counter strike
Actually no I dont, I just like the look of them. If I really had my choice, it'd be a suppressed Ruger 10/22. .22lr is a very common round, no recoil, and it's subsonic so it makes less of a crack when fired.
I’ve heard the Israeli X95 isn’t bad. Infact it might be the best bullpup available. Cant compare to the coolness of the AUG though
Sounds about right. Has one of the better trigger outside the box but with Geissele upgrades, its pretty much the best. Manticore arms makes a great upgrade to the ejection port cover. Backup sights aren't bad. Flow through suppressors do just fine. AUG, seems like a nice runner up but don't think the aftermarket support is there.
SA80 is objectively pretty mid, but I'm in the UK and that's what our armed forces use, so it's the only option I have a real chance of reliably scavenging spare parts for. AUG comes at a close 2nd place bc of its iconic looks - everything else either looks shit, is too rare to find spare parts for, or doesn't use 5.56 NATO ammo so I won't be able to scavenge for it.
Yeah I’m from the UK too and with fire arms being so limited this is probably our options. I kinda hate the SA80 and vastly preferred the AUG from when I was in Gibraltar. However I live in the middle of nowhere in Scotland so I doubt I’d even bother trying to get my hands on anything not scavenged from a farm or gamekeepers house
damn, jealous that you got to handle an AUG mate! yeah, if you're in a rural area then shotgun shells or some hunting rifle calibres are probably the only thing you could find...
Gimme the Famas. The one thing that the French did right other than bread and cheese.
What did they get right about it? It's got kind of a fucked fire control group, has basically every problem every other bullpup has, and the original version could neither use normal 5.56 ammunition nor NATO-standard 5.56 magazines, and they've kind of been shit rifles their entire life cycle. Hell, the French Army is replacing the things with AR-15s.
_It. Looks. Cool._ lol
*HK416 Contrary to popular belief the 416 is not just an m4 made by HK, it has an entirely different gas system.
That’s fair. I was mostly making a France joke lol, sorry. It’s not the best, but I have handled it more than other bullpups, so that’s why I chose that one at first.
The tavor is combat tested and proven. I'll stick with that.
I mean so are the malyuk and VHS
VHS-2.
The Tar 21 and AUG's are 2 of my favorite guns.
Me too
They just look so badass and I've never fired them but I've heard they're good guns. I've always just liked the look of them
Same. I’ve wanted an aug since I was a kid lol. I’ve always loved the way they look. Then I started actually reading about their performance and they are actually pretty good guns. The tar 21 pretty much the same thing except I didn’t really get into them later in life
Yeah I learned more about the TAR even tho I like the Aug more lol. The Tar is actually Israeli manufactured and created, which I would have never guessed when I was younger. It was created to be the same to them as the M4 is to the US. It was also created on the basis that it was to outperform the M4 in every way and it succeeded in the endeavor according to field testing, thought that was pretty cool.
Better pick something with ammo that's available and not your personal favorite or choice because the "that ammo is hard to find" police will get on your case...
Haha Who hurt you? It’s ok, seems like you choose to think of the scenario like a video game, where it’s assumed all other things are equal. Others think of it as how they would use the rifle in their actual location and life Different strokes, maybe the prompts need to be more clear or normalized for ammo availability
The issue is that people will say that about literaly anything that isn’t 9mm or 5.56. It’s like they think those are the only things that exist in the US.
aug
I like the FAMAS.
Aug or famad because plentiful ammo
This dude plays tarkov
Famas f1 easily. Then I would give it to Ian cause we all know how much he loves the French weapons!
EF-88 I think it is, the Australian army standard issued one
FAMAS
Vhs 2
AUG or FN F2000
F2000, zombies can be repelled by cool factor alone.
Depends if I have to worry about the rifles condition and mags for it. If I don't hand me an AUG. If I do, then SA 80 because I'm British .
Trust me, you have to worry about the sa80s condition. As someone who's used them, don't get it
Yeah I’ve heard nothing but bad things about them
I used these in a competition for the British armed forces as a cadet. My record without a jam was six rounds
Jesus Christ. What an embarrassing excuse for a gun
Literally. We're two models ahead now on the A3 but it's still a piece of shit. New proper rifle to be coming into service by 2025 though. Royal marines already have it and it's sexy
What is it called?
It's the KS-1 rifle as a part of Project Hunter
There was a couple videos of the A1 version being used on YouTube, and parts would fall off when it was being fired. I've also seen 2 of the SA80A1 rifles here in the USA, and they had some parts being held on with hose clamps.
It’s insane to think that people would literally have to deal with that in the middle of a firefight
It should have been an issue that was worked out before getting it to the firing range.
That’s an A1 so not a good idea, even later variants are still not ideal. 1) the SA80 is heavy as fuck. 11 pounds, an m16 was like 7, every gun here are lighter than it 2) even A2 and above with the mag release guard added, you still can accidentally bump on the mag release and loss your mag when you carrying it with a sling.
I'm in the uk. I don't really have a choice
Just get an Aug that uses stanags
Aug, but with a few Corvus defensio and Arid bits.
I like mine https://imgur.com/a/RP4TLRk
Did you find that on Pandora?
Well, I own a tavor and love it. So that.
That's awesome. One of my favorite guns of all time
Tie between the auga1 and that hellion cause man I love those both
Foxtrot Mike Triad, they actually managed a work around to the terrible bullpup trigger, better integrated rail than the Tavor and Aug.
I'm going with the Tavor 21 Bullpup Assault Rifle, Bro.
I'll take the desert tech MDRX, I already own two chambered in 6.5 creedmore and for bullpups, they have very few moving parts to break
FN2000. If it's good enough for the flood then it's good enough for zombies.
I take bp50
Styre, I actually have limited experience using this rifle
L85A2.
The FAMAS
Ew. Only acceptable bullpups is aug
AUG. You can get it with the STANAG magwell. It's got the least offensive bullpup trigger. It has features I like and a manual of arms that were designed with a human being in mind, not a tentacle monster with ten arms. Half of these are AK's in a bullpup chassis, so it's an AK trigger combined with a bullpup trigger. Yikes. Half the rest are a bunch of shitbox European jank, looking at you L86 and FAMAS. The Croatian gun is fine, but good luck finding a steady supply of replacement parts. The F2000 doesn't seem to be in production anymore. The DesertTech gun is expensive and niche. That Polish gun just doesn't exist outside of Poland.
The DesertTech trigger is way better than the AUG but I don't like \*anything\* else about it.
I've never had the opportunity to shoot it, but the reviews I've seen don't paint it in an overly flattering light. Is it your personal bang stick?
Nah, I tried one, didn't care for it, didn't care for the people who made it, so I bought the Hellion instead. It has almost the exact opposite provblem. It's made by people I like (HS Produkt) but imported by people I'm ambivalent about )Springfield), it has incredible durability, a rugged AR180 operating mechanism, a durable and reliable gas tappet system for low maintenance, comfortable controls that remind me of my more familiar G3/HK91s, outstanding accuracy, a very simple and reliable left to right hand ejection swap, a very simple way to keep casings out of your face (no forward eject doohickey, just a piece of plastic that keeps your face behind the ejection port) and a kinda pretty bad trigger. It's also heavier than it should be, but that seems to be a typical thing for bullpups. I'd like to have an AUG some day but I have to move to a state where the only way to have one isn't to grandfather it.
Well thank you for that breakdown. And as to living in the land of restrictive gun laws, yeah owning an AR in my state requires you to drop three grand on a shot out Colt with Vietnam flashbacks furniture.
SA80 because it would likely be in abundance during a UK based zombie apocalypse.
Shak-12 for the funny, or the rm277 cause it’s cool as fuck but probably the Steyr aug
Which one has stanag mags? Just the British one?
The aug, only good bull pup
Fish gun fish gun
SA80
Tactical tuna.....I'm too fat to go around as solid snake
AUG. 5.56 is readily available and comes with a built-in optic.
Tavor, all day.
The Steyr AUG. Super simple design, reliable, and AUGs are made in my state
The sa80 is a piece of shit the germans had to fix and you have an A1 pictured so even worse Famas is basically unobtainium, cool though I’m not sure what caliber the pictured groza is, but could work, i think it takes AK mags depending on caliber so thats a big plus The PDR never left the prototype stage so may be finicky Good luck finding ammo for the QBZ Same with the ShAK-12 Tars a good option but they are overgassed to high hell RM is a good powerful option, but is heavy with a shit ton of recoil, not exactly what id want to carry around I don’t know too much about the MSBS other than it slapped in COD Ghosts MDR could be a good option but id say there are better options Im not sure how this one runs or works, i know it is South African though I think the Malyuk is literally a bullpup AK so the trigger is probably shit Aug is probably the best option here as its proven and has a lot of spare parts almost everywhere VHS, not sure how well it is i heard its good though F2000, Tactical Tuna Boat
ASH/ShAK 12 purely for stopping power
Me it would be the Tavor.
I have Augtism
The Tar-21, it reminds me of my Tavor and would thus be pretty familiar already to me.
Tar 21 is tavor
ots-14
I actually just went down this Wikipedia rabbit hole last night and I think I’d have to go with the tavor. Aug would be second. Shame because aug is my favorite aesthetically.
Steyr aug
X95
Tavor X-95
The Tar-21 is the objectively correct answer here.
SWORDFISH! TACTICAL TUNA!!!!🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
SA80 is literally portrayed as a demon gun in every game and movie, it’s quite a accurate and low recoil weapon only con being weight
Steyr. Stick to what I'm trained on
I only know the names of the aug and the famas, so I’ll go with the aug
Already got an aug, so that was easy...
All with a bit of glue
TAR-21, I like it.
Idk, which one is 7.62x39mm? If none, then FAMAS, Oden, or AUG
GIMME THE GROZA
Pass me the Aug, bro.
If it absolutely has to be bullpup, the AUG. If not, gimme a fuckin AK I don't want this American bullshit
Either the AUG, or the desert tech MDR. the MDR has dual caliber, so I would have two pools of ammo. The AUG is the most common bullpup around, (and also the simplest to maintain) so it should last a while. Depending on how long the plastic parts will last.
Fn2000, PDR, or Aug any one and I'd be happy
Old gen AUG defiantly
Most Bullpup models have a severe issue with clearing stoppages as well as vulnerability to mud so really the benefit provided isn't greatly worth that cost especially in a zombie situation. So I wouldn't use one. If I was forced to, then the FAMAS. It has a nice big open ejection port and I can get a good view of the action, has an inbuilt bipod which can be quite nice for when in a fixed position and overall has a pretty good service record.
Whoever invented that fucking thing called the CR-22 should be taken out back and delt with.
Ots-14
Whatever is in 556 because otherwise Goodluck finding ammo
r/Pikmin has me in a chokehold I thought that said bulborb
Ideally? Rm277. Sends rounds into stuff really hard. Realistically? Something that takes stanag.
I'm augtistic
Mdr
VHS or AUG
VHS-2, just prefer how it feels in my hands, though I ain't big on Bulpup
13
Either aug, tavor, or the groza
F-2000 it’s such a sleek design in my opinion I’d love to reload my own ammo in the wasteland
Kel Tec RDB survival but it’s not on here
Aug all the way.
Groza
Groza
L85A3 specifically the A3 because one british bias and two takes M4 mags
Styer AUG… go watch Garand thumb. My case is made
If your main priority is survival you should avoid a bullpup if at all possible.
Wuv me the Aug Would prefer the Auga3 tho
The aug a1
Malyuk because it’s a bullpup AK
Steyr AUG is the only bull pup with an extensive reliable service record, so that all day as long as it’s the variety that takes standard STANAG AR magazines
I kinda like the CZ Scorpion EVO3
That’s not a bullpup?
Oops. My bad.
Oh it’s fine bud
I guess I learned a new term today.! This post somehow found it's way to my feed and I just like subcompact or SBR firearms. I didn't know what a Bullpup was. I figured it was a manufacturer. Well, now i know.! Pretty interesting.
Whatever is in .308, the rest doesn't matter to me.
The SA80 is dangerously unreliable in its original form, and it took more than the cost of development to get H&K to get it barely to the point where it was just adequate as a service rifle. Now they're replacing it with an AR. The FAMAS is cool but it won't run on brass cased ammo and the mags are disposable. The F2 improved these problems but it's not on the list. The Groza is kind of a kludge and very cumbersome to operate. I also find them heavy and weirdly balanced. Did the PDR ever actually get built or was that just an airsoft gun? I don't know enough about it to say. QBZ95 makes a nice boat anchor for when you don't want to get your actual boat anchor dirty. SHAK-12 looks like a shotgun. I am iffy on mag-fed shotguns, especially bullpups. I don't have much luck with them. So without knowing anything else about this gun I'm gonna steer clear. TAR21 is a good, reliable and sturdy gun with modern features and lackluster accuracy. I'd take it if I couldn't have my VHS2. RM277 doesn't really exist in a form that can be evaluated. I'm gonna call that a beta test model and steer clear. GROT-C is supposed to be alright. I don't know enough about the bullpup version but some of my cousins and my aunt say they have durability problems. MDR seems fine for Tuesday, but I don't like the optic mount or the durability/complexity issues it seems to have. It comes apart like a weird clamshell. For as much as it costs it shouldn't take down like a Kel Tec. I would be iffy about running one in the apocalypse. The Vektor CR22 is almost literally just a Galil in drag. I love it and I want one badly, but there's no way I'd trust it in an emergency. They basically drew a picture of how they wanted it to work and then made gun parts fit inside the plastic shell. It's built the way I used to build my airsoft guns. Malyuk is a little new to the global scene to trust yet. I hope to see more about it. AUG is wonderful. But it's a little lacking in modern features and the ergonomics are a little weird for me. I would take it if I had to but I'd rather have one just for fun and use my VHS2 for fighting. VHS2 - I have one of these. Aside from the fact that ZERO parts availability makes me a little squeamish, I love it. It's stupid accurate, it'll shoot anything I can cram into the chamber, ergonomics fit my weirdly shaped body well, manual of arms is EXTREMELY familiar to anyone who's ever run a G3 or MP5 for any length of time, it is very well balanced, and careful use of accumulation spots makes the gun just keep running on and on even when excessive fouling has occurred. I have found it to be significantly heavier than it needs to be, and the trigger is awful, but I grew up shooting awful triggers on surplus guns and my HK91 home builds, so basically, if you can shoot a GLOCK fine, then the trigger on a VHS2 won't be an issue for you. The length of pull is fine unless you're a toddler. I currently have mine set up with a Primary Arms PLx 1-8 (the model just before the lightweight one came out), a BCM short foregrip mounted backwards just in ffront of the trigger guard, an Inforce WML white/infrared lamp riding on the left side so I can run it with night vision, and a Magpul 2-point quick adjustable sling. I swapped the factory flash hider for a linear comp to make it less concussive indoors or on covered ranges, and I run a jungle taped double mag of MK262. For legal reasons I must state that the gun has been professionally converted to a straight pull bolt-action in order to comply with the terms of the Illinois assault weapon ban. The professional conversion definitely is not just a piece of threaded rod and two Nylock nuts jammed in where the gas tappet pin belongs. The F2000 is an old bucket list gun for me. I want one \*bad\*. But it's because it's a cool gun, not a particularly good gun. They actually do legit shoot REAL nice. They run great if they're clean, kept dry, fed high quality brass-cased ammo, and all worn parts replaced regularly. But it remains the only gun I have ever seen get a \*quadruple\* feed. And I've seen it twice. Granted, same gun, could have been a particular damaged or worn part. But still. It was a nightmare to clear.
Tactical Tuna!!!!!!
aug because they are reliable and common round
Tavor 100% no question
Isn’t the Shak-12 a fifty cal
I’d have to take the tavor
Honestly most bullpups are not that bad. Usually you’re likely not firing more than 3 rounds so just have it on semi if possible.
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Aug, ammo is common. Magazines are common ish. Comes with a free scope, which is good because in an apocalypse scenario, I'd need to be capable of longer range combat, as optimally I want to finish any gunfight only using a handful of rounds and without being spotted.
The Famas for every single scenario. It’s the best thing to at has ever come out of the country of France.
Assuming I have a consistent amount of ammo, Shak-12: .50 cal assault rifle will help me demolish anything. Otherwise the AUG or SA80 to use 5.56
RM277 is probably the best. I heard lots of good things about it and can't tell if the military went with Sig purely for loyalty and manufacturing capability despite the advantages of this bullpup or if it wasn't that good after all. Will this be another Dragon Skin armor situation where rumors hyped up a piece of military equipment that actually failed in testing or did the military make a mistake?
The bulpup Barrett 50. Cal, it is a real thing
The Steyr AUG
SA80 because I'm British.
The aug
I'm leaning to the MDR rifle out of all these.
12, the Malyuk. These are apparently quite good and at this point might just be the most combat proven bullpup design.
Also they are literally just AKs so you could find mags ammo and parts pretty easily, contrary to what most people in this sub seem to think AKs are EVERYWHERE in the US.
Probably the TAR-21, because the ammo is easy to find, simple chambering mechanism, and just a good light gun. The AUG is probably second for the same reasons, but the a practical scope would be hard to attach because you’re gonna need a new receiver (on the A1 at least).
None. The manual of arms for Bullpups is lack luster at best.
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None. No one (aside from the french) went out to make a great rifle and came up with a bullpup. Past that for half of these I'm mot willing to give up certain administrative abilities and for the other half they get filthy really fucking quick. And cleaning supplies are going to dry up faster than most other things.
None, I’m personally not a fan of bullpup rifles
X-95 . Not lisyed but thats would be my go too
Ya got to get something with rounds easier to find
All of the above two hands 15 guns
Can I just Bubba my AR into a bullpup?
None of them. There isn't a single good bullpup. There are marginally not terrible bullpups, but no good ones
VHS or AUG based on my familiarity
Whichever one uses 3” 12ga
I refuse to use a bulpup
Would prefer the FAMAS G2, as it has more standardized ammo.
VHS, because the only good bug, is a dead bug.
I've trained with the SA80, it's the only weapon I'm familiar with, capable of cleaning and maintaining compared to the rest.
Omfg assault rifle isn't a real term wtaf
I’d take the Springfield Hellion tbh, the rest do this fun thing called not work half the time
Wouldn’t use a bullpup cuz ima american goddamnit
Give me the Aug I don't care about the slower for loading speed
M16. 5.56 is very common and reliable.
Man idk lol
Whichever one is shortest and therefore easiest to stick in my mouth and pull the trigger. Seriously, would not want to be stuck in the apocalypse with a bullpup. Too complicated and hard to maintain/ repair for the average human.
P90 for reasons.
Not an assault rifle. Good sporting rifle. Words matter, give the enemies of this country nothing to use against us.
Tactical tuna all the way
I don't have anything against bullpups per see, I just never have been able to justify spending 800$ extra for what basically amounts to m4 with a lousy trigger that happens to look cool.
Groza (ots14) or vsh because cool looking guns :3
Literally rather die than take a bullpup to the apocalypse
Israeli X95
FISH GUN FISH GUN
It's between the vhs2 and the famas
Definitely the AUG.