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Please consider checking out our sister subreddit /r/AnalogCommunity for more discussion based posts. Our global list of film labs can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/wiki/labs) if you are looking for somewhere to develop your film. Guides on the basics of film photography can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/wiki/index#wiki_film_photography_basics), including [scanning](https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/wiki/index#wiki_scanners_and_scanning).


hannukahmontanuka

What is in you opinion the features that make a good sharp image? Also if you want I'd love to hear some lens you enjoy and what features you like to have in your 35mm camera bodies to get sharp images!


differentbees

What's a good, cheap film camera for someone who is wanting to get into the hobby?


soufinme

KODAK Film Camera M35


fjalll

This question is asked every week since 2009


AAOtaku

Hey everyone! Quick question from someone who done goofed (badly)- My Kodak m-35 got stuck today when I was trying to rewind it back into the canister, and for some reason, I thought it'd be a good idea to try and open the back of the camera to try and fix it. I may or may not have opened it 2-3 times (don't worry, I'm already screaming at myself- I think I was just stressed out at the time). It was direct sunlight, and I had used up all 36 of my shots. I dropped it off at CVS to get developed- a lot of posts I've read said that their shots have been fine (minus 3-5 gone), but I opened my back more than once and definitely for more than one second. Thoughts? Are all of the shots ruined?


MrTidels

If you dropped it off to be developed you’ll know soon enough


fjalll

no


many_skills

Just looking into half frame cameras. When it comes to developing and printing (not by myself), do you get 72 prints, or 36 prints with two images on each? I guess same question for the negatives. Thanks!


symmetrygear

Only your lab can tell you, I am sure different places do it differently!


Jaqdawks

I’m looking into getting a film/analog camera, and was curious what some affordable options were (say, under 450$)


soufinme

KODAK Film Camera M35


BeerHorse

You're going to need to narrow that down a bit. There's a lot of cameras out there. Tell us what type you're looking for, or at the very least what you're hoping to use it for and what level of photography experience you have.


Jaqdawks

Alright—For the most part I’m a beginner, I don’t really know anything about types of cameras, I don’t exactly have a preference. Whatever’s beginner friendly, I suppose? I’m planning to use it mostly for hobbyist stuff, might end up taking a photography class in college


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akrjensen

I just wanna know if it's worth buying a local camera I mean, it's a kinon mirage 860s, according to my beginners point of view is cheap and working well, and I've looked up everywhere on the Internet, but I can't find the right film to use or even its iso. Some sources say it's 35mm and others it's 38mm I've tried looking up on camera wiki as advised in the description, but there isn't any info there I would ask for the specifications of the camera, but now I'm only able to go there on Monday, and I'm gonna be anxious until then if I don't decide this already


jfa1985

This is all based on a quick Google so details might be a bit iffy. Kinon (an anagram or Nikon, idk?) seems to have made a bunch of cheap sorta knockoffs of popular cameras the 860s looks like the various cameras of the era but lack the more expensive features such as the ability to actually focus. I can find much specific information on the camera since the only places that seem to have any info are in Portuguese and extremely light on information. You might get some use out of the camera in terms of learning composition but it would be in my opinion a frustrating mess to learn much of anything else.


akrjensen

Did you manage to translate those websites properly? I'm a portuguese speaker, and I can try to help on that if not so. It is indeed kinon if that helps, though. As I said to the other user, I don't want some bunch of complicated functions right away, if that makes sense? I mean, I wanna start simple and casually since I'm not a professional or at least not yet. What I want is to take photos. Of course, I want them to be good enough so I can distinguish the objects and stuff, but nothing otherworldly good, you know?


jfa1985

Google seemed to translate the pages just fine, wasn't really much info other than it is a 35mm camera, and has a built in flash. I did find in English page on Kinon which indicated origins in Asia, and having made a number of cheap cameras. Assuming everything is working you'll get photos but the results may not be what you are looking for.


Syrphidae_3

Can you post a link to the description of the camera you mean? I can find barely anything online about kinon cameras and from the pictures, what I do see I’d be wary. The lenses in the pictures say things like “color optical glass lens” which I’ve only seen on very cheap lenses that are supposed to look like slr lenses but are actually fixed aperture lenses. As the other person said cameras don’t have fixed ISO, the film you use has an ISO. Some cameras are what’s known as “focus free” however. This means you have little to no control over the exposure settings and in a “focus free” camera I’ve mostly seen recommendations of using either 400 or 200 speed film in order to maximize your chances of getting an image. Before purchasing this camera I’d look up “focus free” cameras so you can get an idea of how to tell if the camera you’re looking at is one of these, and also so you can decide if you want a focus free camera. Good luck!


akrjensen

The main issue is that I can't find any info about it either. The most helpful website was [this one](https://www.collection-appareils.fr/x/html/camera-6134-Kinon_860S.html) though. But you got me confused. Should I buy a focus free camera as a beginner? I've heard from a reliable shop that I should start with a compact, point and shoot camera that has auto focus (I may have typed two synonyms as different things but I'm not sure, so correct me if so) because it's easier and more casual to use. And even if you're right on that point, I just found out this one's focus free anyway


Syrphidae_3

Sorry to be confusing! Autofocus means the camera has the ability to focus both (relatively) close up and far away. Cameras with autofocus also have lenses where either you or the camera or both you and the camera can control the aperture of the lens and the shutter speed. All of this means that an autofocus camera, whether it’s a point and shoot or an autofocus slr can be used in a variety of situations. Cameras that are called “focus free” can’t focus at different distances. They have a fixed plane of focus. They also tend to come lenses with a fixed aperture and either one single shutter speed or maybe two shutter speeds. I’d generally recommend avoiding fixed focus cameras (but autofocus is fine). Edited to add: according to the link you shared the kinon is a fixed focus camera. I’d recommend looking for an autofocus camera instead. Ideally you can choose a camera where the manual is available online. Lots and lots and lots of camera manuals are available on google and especially as a beginner I’d highly recommend reading the one for your camera.


BeerHorse

Cameras don't have a fixed ISO - they can use a range of different ISO films. There is no 38mm film - that's likely the focal length of the lens. It likely takes 35mm film.


akrjensen

Okay, that helps a ton. Thank you!


tothemoonp

Any advice on focusing on rangefinders? I have a hard time trying to find the correct focus in the rangefinder specially indoors since there's barely enough light to reflect/show the indicators. Sometimes if there's enough light, the subject is just barely unfocused. Outdoors, I can easily find the correct focal point. I use a Yashica Electro 35 GS. Thanks! https://imgur.com/a/Nl9x7Ox


extordi

If your rangefinder patch is dim you can try the [trick of using something to darken the viewfinder to improve contrast.](https://rangefinder-cameras.com/improving-rangefinder-patch-contrast/) Some people will use a coloured gel, others a bit of developed but unexposed film, and some will just use a bit of permanent marker. I've done this on my QL17 and it really helps when you're indoors or out at night. It's sort of a double whammy in the dark because not only can you not see the rangefinder but you also have your lens wide open so the DOF is tiny.


LenytheMage

Simply line up the lines. Sometimes depending on the subject it will be easier to focus with the camera held horizontally even if you ultimately wanted a vertical photo, and visa versa, just focus and recompose as needed. Strong elements, like the lights/structure of the building in the first photo are great points to focus off of easily.


bbb__b

Looking to buy a film camera. Unsure what to get or where to even begin. Any and all advice welcome, or point me in the right direction! I’m currently using a canon dslr and am hoping to use the lenses for that camera on the film camera? Is that even possible. Not for anything serious, just for fun and capture some unique memories on holidays. Thank you!!!


BeerHorse

>I’m currently using a canon dslr and am hoping to use the lenses for that camera on the film camera? Is that even possible. It depends which DSLR. If it's a full frame camera, then the lenses will work on a range of the more modern Canon SLRs, many of which can be done remarkably cheap because people don't want plastic-looking film cameras. If it's an APS-C camera, you probably have EF-S lenses that may not fit, and won't produce a large enough image to fill the film frame.


Pierce_B_Architect

Hi, I shot my first colour film roll with the Pentax ME-F. The photos did not come out well though. Here is one of them: https://imgur.com/a/E68Hjsb All the photos have this yellow noise. Does anyone have an idea what it could be?


extordi

Who scanned this? Even with crappy expired film, there's plenty that you could do in the scanning/editing to try and recover something...


Pierce_B_Architect

Some photo shop scanned it for me :). I don't know


veepeedeepee

How fresh was the film and what type did you use?


Pierce_B_Architect

I don't know the type anymore :( The person I bought the camera from offered the film to get started with. Though he has a stash of them in the refrigerator so who knows how old it was.


KodakCo_

What is the best film to buy for the Kodak ektar h35, do I need different types of film if I want to take pictures in different places such as indoor and outdoor photos


extordi

Whatever is cheap, honestly... it's fixed at 1/100 s f/9.5 I believe so you're overexposing just about everything outside and underexposing just about everything inside. Indoors you are always gonna use the flash so you want regular daylight balanced film all the time. If you are planning on only going outside then maybe pick a slower film to try and keep the exposure in check. But a stop or two difference in film speed really won't change much... I guess there's an argument to be made in favour of pro films, like Ektar 100 or Portra 400, etc. You will get finer grain which could be helpful since you're shooting half frame. But you have to be careful of exposure latitude - despite the name of the camera I would probably not go with Ektar just because it doesn't have that good of an exposure latitude.