FOOD WARS
S4's ending didn't complete all the plot points, but I would have been satisfied with the end there.S5 was just a weird, goofy slop of an end to the story.
After end of season 4 we could have had a few more episodes to close the plot points and that's it. We didn't need supernatural bullshit "CROSSING KNIVES" Erina's half brother and cooking with chainsaws
Was literally about to say this. A good, satisfying ending was right there, but then they stretched it out for one arc too long and just completely killed it (derogatory).
Food wars is among my top three Manga series ever but it also holds one of the worst manga endings I’ve ever read maybe top 3 worse also. Love the series so much but the blue arc is so bad. Should’ve just ended at central
Loved FW and was so glad I didn’t watch S5. Liked how S4 ended and that was good for me.
However, S4 was the first time I’ve ever noticed a massive drop in animation in any show. It felt like watching a PowerPoint and it broke my heart.
I might just have low asf standards. But I actually liked the 'everyone lived happily ever after' ending. The blue arc as a whole was kinda silly, tho.
Agreed. Sure they wanted to show that Soma won the competition his dad didn't show up to, but maybe it would have just been enough for Soma to have a tie or win against his dad.
It was originally supposed to end a season earlier but there was pressure from above to keep it going as far as I know the manga was originally planned to end sooner too but same reasons
One of my best decisions was not watching Season 5 when it was annoucned and I was vindicated by the crazy type video clips I saw crunchyroll putting out it looked like S5 of Food Wars was a parody of itself.
S4 is the finale in my head cannon
Source material was bad imo. Became a mediocre battle manga with terrible "mystery." No salvaging that. Plot was planned out for the escape part and everything else was just shit they came up with as they went.
The Goldy Pond Arc was 100% better than the first one and was great to read.
Not only did they cut one of the better characters of the series, we never got to see Emma really grow.
But pretty much everything after that arc was almost as bad as Season 2. It was just odd seeing such a drastic drop in the plot.
The original Macross series should've ended at episode 27, like it was originally supposed to. I like a few of the ideas the remaining episodes set up, but everything related to [vague SDF spoilers]>!drawing the love triangle out when it *should* have already been resolved!< tanked my score for the show from a 9/10 to a 6/10.
Yeah the second half of Macross was not as engaging. I do like the story of the ongoing Zentradi war and the additional campaign, but I very much agree with your comments.
I disagree. I think it made it a more real (for a story about 40 ft giant aliens) story because not everything was perfect after beating the big bad enemy.
Might be a slightly weird answer, but I felt that way for both Banished From the Hero's Party and Misfit of Demon King Academy, I'm not a source reader but both of those felt like the season 1 end was a terrific finale only for another season to pop up where I didn't really care about what was going on
even in the source s1 finale which is vol3 felt like the end lol, which is generally cause author writes in a way that there's plot break every 3 volumes
despite there being more unsolved mystery in anime it was less obvious which is most likely cause of anime habit of skipping chunk of source material.
[even author had to say this about the vol3 lol](https://imgur.com/a/8ZpOPtD)
Yea the magic wasn’t there like it had been and now it’s got a lot more fan service and intricate plot points like bro I just want to see this dude chill with his wife not stop an evil plot or something.
For a series where one of the primary complaints about the ending is that it’s rushed and needed more time to flesh out its ideas, ending it earlier and overall giving it even less time to work out an ending to its story feels like a solution which wouldn’t actually do much to fix the problem
I disagree with this for several reasons. Firstly, as far as the common consensus goes, there's more about the last third that was rushed/underdeveloped than just the [FranXX]>!aliens!< plot. [In particular]>!everything surrounding Ikuno and her sexuality & the Nines' thematic purpose immediately comes to mind. Hell, pretty much all of the cast outside the main trio would suffer significantly from having the episode count reduced, given how developing the rest of Squad 13 was already one of the main things the show seriously struggled with.!<
Secondly, [FranXX]>!the aliens plot!< didn't exactly just pop into the series out of thin air, it was an extension of/answer to the lingering mysteries which had been bubbling up across the series, specifically regarding APE's true nature & what the Klaxxosaurs even are. Now, call me crazy, but I don't think shaving off the episode count would particularly help in providing satisfactory alternative answers to these questions. Not even mentioning that that kind of shortening would also mean losing the backstory episode which contextualized a good portion of the series' lore.
Thirdly, such a drastic shortening would also seriously eat into the series' thematics. The environmentalist messaging, the way it tried extending its coming-of-age/discovery of sexuality themes to the supporting cast through the [FranXX]>!Kokoro pregnancy!< subplot, the fairy tale symbolism which has been a part of the series since literally the first minute of the first episode, etc.
Overall, there's just way too many moving parts to the series, both on the plot and thematic levels, that shortening the episode count is very much not a remotely helpful solution when it comes to fixing the issues people have with the show.
This one still hurts. A unique premise with good storytelling, great animation, well-handled deep emotional themes...and it shat the bed so disappointedly hard.
I've watched all seasons of the anime so far and I don't know why I keep doing so... It's rubbish but somehow keeps me entertained enough to finish?
It's entirely carried by the girls as the MC is nothing but a c_nt ruining what would have been great scenes if he didn't suddenly start talking about his boner.
It feels dragged out to me by adding more girls. There's now some zoomer girl or something just to stir up tensions between the other girls.
I watched Eureka 7 15 years ago and refuse to watch anything else that's come from the series. I feel like I've been proven correct for doing so.
Weird example is that Toradora's last episode is a pointless conflict to the point of being obnoxious and thus I would like to suggest it would be better to end exactly one episode earlier. Considering one thing of note that happens by the end, that's probably blasphemous to fans, but it otherwise really undermines the feelgood feeling of the series' ending for no good reason.
Something to note about Toradora is the light novel released its final volume the same month the final episode aired. (Similar situation with Horimiya’s final chapter coming out 2 weeks before season 1 ended) I won’t go into spoilers, but the last chapter of Toradora’s LN preserves the feel-good-ness of the previous episode, but imo is much stronger than the actual final episode’s conclusion.
Eureka 7 is so damn good. I watched E7 AO and it was extremely mediocre. I'm not watching anything else made since. You made the correct choice. Nothing of value has been added beyond the original series.
As a long time Eureka Seven fan who watched it as it aired and has continued to followed it all these years i do think the "Other stuff" as people call it is worth it.
I have 1 main opinion about it though.
You have to watch it yourself and see if you like it or not.
I know that can be a scary thought but its worth trying.
The extended content is very polarizing reception wise and people either love or hate it. But its still popular and many parts still well rated among fans. No one online will know what you think or feel so you should def see for yourself.
But again its a you will like it or not.
Refusing to watch something is fine, but using that as an excuse to belittle something you know nothing about isnt ideal. Many people trash the extended content and refuse to watch it but many never acctually saw it themselves. It is made by all the same people so those are the people people are giving crap to.
So i will say, if you truely did like Eureka Seven give the extended content a try. Go in with an open mind and just see what its about and see what you think about it. There is a lot of very cool stuff in there and a lot of it answers a lot of unanswered questions from the original series. And the original series' ending was always very quick, but AO really adds a whole other side to the story and a much more complete ending point for the story as a whole. Also Hi Evo movies are pretty great and help build up characters more.
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I will outline all the extended content and you can choose to watch it or not.
Personally i loved the ENTIRE story of Eureka Seven so Extended Content included.
Here is the entire list in the order it came out. (order to watch it)
[**Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/237/Koukyoushihen_Eureka_Seven) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bkAdNAqXCE)
The original series which focuses on Renton, Eureka, Gekko State, and gets a bit into what the Scub Coral are.
[**Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven: Pocket Full of Rainbows**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/4246/Koukyoushihen_Eureka_Seven__Pocket_ga_Niji_de_Ippai) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vbM4DQ_RCY)
The Sequel Movie that tells a story from an alternate timeline. This movie further expands on what Nirvash and TheEnd are as well as gets deeper into what scubs are and more into what Eureka and Anemone are. This movie also brings into the story the idea of other timelines which is important going forward.
[**Eureka Seven Astral Ocean / Eureka Seven AO**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/12471/Eureka_Seven_AO) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmgLt0yB9k)
The full length Sequel Series to Eureka Seven. The story is about a boy named Ao who is Renton and Eureka's child as he tries to learn where he came from and track down his parents. This story expands a LOT of the world of the series and wraps up a lot of questions points from the original series that were not answered like what are Scubs and where did they come from.
There is an OVA final episode for this series so if you watch it.
Make sure to watch the OVA "Eureka Seven AO: One More Time - Lord Dont Slow Me Down"
[**Eureka Seven Hi-Evolution Movie Series**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/35134/Koukyoushihen_Eureka_Seven_Hi-Evolution_1) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJ49Lg__a8)
This movie series came out recently and fills in a lot of gaps in the original series also like who Renton's father was and what happened to him and all that. They also tell their own stories but they are all more story in this world.
I will say if what you loved about Eureka Seven was the characters, the action, the music, and the world, then all of those will give you that and more.
I personally loved them but some people did not enjoy them because they didnt want the original story expanded. But all of these were made by the same people who wrote Eureka Seven. So if you enjoyed that you should enjoy the rest.
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Also all the music people is the same, some of my favorite music in the series is in AO and the Movie.
Eureka Seven OST Greats
[Storywriter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHP_9heGEKo) - [Niji](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcDmqG2f_bs)
Eureka Seven Pocket Full of Rainbows OST Greats
[Space Rock](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7sHNVag77g) (probably my fav song in franchise)
Eureka Seven Astral Ocean OST Greats
[Astral Ocean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYjO1GlJam0) - [OP Signal ALERT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9w-IRgkN70) - [RE-PARADOX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCZiYO-vZUk) - [Apocalypse of a New Beginning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pbdVA_yNSk) - [Seven Swell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmOA8ze-Drc)
[IFO-RA272 NIRVASH SPEC-M2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJdERiK97Z0) - [IFO-RA164 ALLELUIA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPl9evfmD1A) - [IFO-RA301 KYRIE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtXZBT_HmY)
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yup, one of the bigger issues of that show was that they tried to recapture what they did in the original, but it doesn't work if you already know who the main threat is, it just bores you to death. And let's not even talk about the resolution, which is pretty bad in general.
I still listen to the opening of Guilty Crown and the OST because they were just so good. But what the heck was that second half? I have never had the urge to watch it again even though I remember really enjoying the first half because the second half was just so terrible.
I really enjoyed the three kings arc but I think it probably needed to be an extra 5-10 episodes longer to flesh it out properly, it felt a bit too rushed to me.
Yea id rather it end early than whatever that was.
Similar to HxH tbh, as much as I'm enjoying this arc, if its not going to get a proper ending imma just pretend the anime ending is the ending.
Nah, I'd say that YYH took a wrong turn during the Sensui arc, but the minute they introduce Reizen via Yusuke's mind control episode they had to pretty much do something with that arc to answer it. You don't just introduce something like that and then do nothing with it.
I would have liked to have seen YYH definitively end with the Chapter Black arc too, but the way that arc ended necessitated the Three Kings arc to actually finish the story.
The last arc fleshed out Yusuke, Kurama, and especially Hiei, so I think it's a bad idea to cut it out completely. I do, however, think it was rushed and was cut short. It should have been longer to flesh things out even further.
I will be downvoted to hell for this, but hear me out. I wish AOT focused more on the Eren’s story and the thought process behind them rather than Gabi and Falco. I was just tired by the end of seasons 4 and 5 honestly. New characters are still being introduced and so much concluded in just a few sentences of dialogue with Armin. I have so many questions and what was the whole deal with that Ymir’s story and not being able to break free from abuse? (AOT refers to it as love btw). Anyways, I was a bit confused and empty after the way it ended
I wish they ended it in season 4 after spending some time with Eren
Rather than straight up stop after a certain point I think a lot of shows could have been slightly repurposed to have capitalize on their strengths betters. The best segment might benefit from being slightly extended and/or re-written in a way where it can stick end on a satisfying note.
OP mentions Death note, that's a great example of a show that wouldn't necessarily have had a banger ending if it had outright ended at "that point". But at the same time everything beyond that point is of a lower quality than what came before. I think re-writing that turning point so and perhaps extending that segment of the story a little so it would serve as a great finale would have resulted in a better overall product.
The Promised Neverland always comes up and for good reason. But I think even it's source material loses the strength of it's mystery/thriller throughline fairly early in it's runtime and cutting the lower quality content in the back half in favor of extending that season 1 segment where it managed to really play into it's strengths would have also resulted in a better manga/anime overall even if the total length of the manga might have only been half as long.
[Spoiler] >!Light's capture plays out basically the same but with L instead of Near since he wrote his own name in the Death Note before Rem kills him.!<
[Same Death Note spoiler] >!So he figured out that they would kill him if he proceeded and wrote his name so that until it activated he was immune and he set a large amount of time for himself? That's brilliant and thematic, giving up everything to win their game.!<
Oh god, Twelve Kingdoms.
Episode 39 feels like what should be the actual ending.
Episode 40, however, is a very good wrap up episode to tie up some loose ends. This would also work well as an ending, but we then get...
Episodes 41 - 44, a flashback arc that serves as an origin story for a pair of side characters. It's nothing special. And then we get...
Episode 45, the actual last episode, which is a recap episode for the 4 episode arc that just finished. The end.
Some people say it got cancelled, as far as I'm aware it might have just run out of material to adapt and they never went back to it for various reasons. Who knows. But the show went on 5 episodes too long.
It's so strange for me, cos there are so many things going on that have not been explained and open plot points, why would have anyone wanted it to end after S1? 😅
Psycho Pass.
The first season was very solid (I still recommend it), but the franchise just has kept continually churning out more and more seasons / sequel movies of lesser quality. It probably should have ended with the first season, frankly. IMO easy contender for this list.
Everyone here has already mentioned Death Note, Madoka Magica, Code Geass. The latter half/third of Death Note wasn't bad, but it is true that it wasn't as strong as the beginning of the series. Madoka Magica ended perfectly. I personally was fine with the sequel film, however. I haven't seen Resurrection yet, I watched the first two or so films for Akito the Exiled years back. Haven't watched the end of that or uhh any of the newer content. So can't comment, but evidently the original series was quite solid on its own.
DBZ, I fairly disagree. Though the Buu Saga is weaker, it's still great and had some incredible moments of character development, particularly for Vegeta. GT was bad. Haven't seen Super, but the few clips I've seen certainly have been at least reasonable. Shouldn't be expected to be remotely on par with DBZ, but it seemed to me to at least be satisfactory, show some development, and have character interactions (like where X character went post-DBZ) that would appeal to fans.
Bleach, I disagree entirely. From what I've seen so far for TYBW, all the little moments and foreshadowing throughout the entirety of the series are culminating in the final arcs. It's clear that Kubo planned out the series, and it shows. And with the stellar adaptation so far, I have no real complaints. It's getting the treatment it deserves (well aside from Disney+ Jail, but that's not the show itself).
I agree with psycho-pass. S1 was great and whil I recall liking S2 as well but it was a completely separate story.
I haven't watched anything else in that franchise though.
Different writers and season 1 and 2 were not contiguous when released. It's hard not see it as Season 1 being successful and someone(s) on the production committee decided to take the ball and see how far they could run with it. I'm okay with that, it's not like season 1 is gone or retroactively worse, but IMO it was probably originally written as a stand-alone story.
Yeah, I'm certainly not one to stop recommending a series for falling off in later parts of the story or later seasons. Doesn't detract from how good S1 was, and to an extent there was still some good content afterwards. Quality just clearly drops off. Some criticize Erased for the ending and say the entirety is not worth watching as a result, but the beginning was so solid I'd still recommend it . Or well Promised Neverland S2 uhh was a dumpster fire, but S1 was absolutely amazing. In the case of Psycho Pass, S1 was also a self-contained story. So it's even less of a problem, really.
Agree. I've watched it all and enjoyed it but S1 was far better. The rest has dropped off quite a bit.
My issue is Malty continues to exist and keeps dragging the anime down because she's just not an interesting character. She keeps making it "oh, other heroes are shit and I'm a bitch".
I will add that I have been spoiled as to potential future series in regards to Malty but I really hope she just fucks off soon so the anime can have some potentially more interesting plots rather than "bitch manipulates idiots into fighting the shield hero rather than the author writing an actually good plot".
The change in scope that happened in the last few episodes of S1 tipped me off, as did the scenes suggesting Malty would continue to be a problem, so I never got into S2. S1 minus the last few episodes make for a decent self-contained story that actually fits the title, though.
Yugioh Arc V
The series becomes way too bloated and a mess a lot earlier on in the synchro arc and the fusion dimension arc was a mess but it’s a much better ending than whatever the final Reina arc was. Literally the last like 12 episodes become about making a baby smile. I’m not joking should’ve just ended it at Zarc and call it day. The final duel against reiji/declan was bad too
It would be much more fun if they stayed at pendulum dimension and deal with whatever Leo throw toward their way. Their own dimension is already amusing and interesting with school that teach different summoning method.
Synchro dimension is a boring snoozefest to go through (every single fight beside Shun Vs Dennis is a filler and we all know Yuya just gonna duel against Jack anyway) and the other 2 are even more boring.
The problem is less that it got too big, and more that it got big too fast. MHA *really* needed a Shippuden-style timeskip at some point so that the students could become actual pro heroes which would allow the scope to expand organically in preparation for the war arc.
I think they shouldnt have done the war arc in the first place and kept the scale down. It was good up untill season 4 then went off the rails. Don't have Shigaraki and All For One become unstoppable monsters and make Japan a post apocalyptic world with Deku being one of the strongest beings alive and insted have Shigaraki try to further destroy the hero society (metaphorically) with taking out heroes and exposing them with people like Hawks and Endavor all the while Deku and his class attempting to rebuild the reputation of heroes.
Man, I hate the power creep and how things ends up. I liked it when it was about daily life of young heroes, their struggles and passion to learn and master their quirks, sometimes go on adventures with the adults heroes, helping with catastrophic disaster or overwhelming villain. Instead it went full trash isekai.
The power creep ruined the action parts for me. MHA used to be about smart usage of the characters' abilities, but now Shigaraki's ability is that he can do anything and Deku is almost as bad.
Yup this is what kinda ruined it for me. I was always really interested in how Deku would overcome the downsides of his quirk. He kept breaking his arm, so he started just breaking his fingers individually to be able to smash more times. He was using his legs because they are stronger and can take more, he started using his entire body with full cowling.
The power progression felt very natural in that sense. He didnt just get stronger for shits and giggles by training for 3 days, you actually see him learn and try different things to master his power.
Then all of that gets thrown out the window because now hes just uber strong and rolls up with some new OFA ability every other episode. Which we dont even see him mastering anymore. He just pulls it off flawlessly straight away. He went from an interesting character with downsides to yet another generic MC who can do everything.
It really should have been him masting base all for one before even introducing the stacked powers. What was he at, 20% max when blackwhip came into play?
Agreed. The War arc is what caused them to break away from the school itself and turn into mad max super hero world. Kinda got to that point way too quick for what the story was.
Best take. I hadn't even considered a time-skip for making more sense of where things have gone, but that would have been perfect.
I wonder if the author didn't go for it BECAUSE it's kind of a shonen trope at this point? But tropes are tropes because they work.
MHA seems like author was more addicted to Marvel superheroes than actual shonen tropes. Horikoshi just really wanted to draw Deku as Spiderman or straight up skipping kurogiri fight just for him to cosplay as Dr strange and do the avenger endgame moment.
Yea the story should have allowed the students to grow up to at least be seniors by the time we get to where we are in the story. I think that's what nearly all of us expected to happen when the series started.
Was also sad that no one really talked about it and the manga is like youtuber clickbait. Alot of supposedly climatic stuff happening only for it to get immediately solved in next chapters.
And alot of the scenes felt like it just excuse for Horikoshi to draw epic and coolshot but didn't want to afford to build it up like One piece or any other show.
My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom
It's pretty clear that they only really had any ideas for 1 season. Like pretty quickly into season 2 I went "oh they don't really have anything else for these characters to do huh" since most subplots at that point are kidnapping plots and all the love interest characters will just sorta, be hanging out together and say their One Character Trait Line every time they show up. Katarina's charm also wears off pretty quickly, especially in regards to her not understanding that girls can be in love with each other. Like, you come from the real world Katarina, you should know what a bisexual person is.
> I only remember a motorcycle ride, a ferris wheel
I can't remember much of the story but these two scenes definitely left an impression even 10 years later.
Very memorable soundtrack too
I remember the hype for it while airing and then absolutely not giving any shits about it by the end. It wasn't memorable enough for me to say much more than that though.
Banana Fish - could as well have ended with episode 13. After that it was just repeating itself and trying to milk the maximum amount of trauma and heartache.
Common answer is after pain when naruto is accepted by the village. But the issue is that there are still unresolved plot points being sasuke and the rest of the akatsuki, plus whatever was going on with kabuto at the time.
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Violet evergarden, she goes through all this development on living life without this man and finding her way in life rather than just being a tool. Only to go backward on all that development for said man who is significantly older than her and raised her.
While the series is great, and the movie is good, sometimes I wish I had not watched the movie and ended Violet's story before it.
I got to know what happens later in the story long before the Gaiden movie dropped so I never watched it and I'm glad I didn't. No way you could take such a beautifully written plot and shit all over it.
Eternity and the Auto Memory Doll is a side story, it's not about Violet, and it's really good you should watch it
> No way you could take such a beautifully written plot and shit all over it.
Well, they didn't, they made it work (at least most people would agree considering [it's high rating](https://myanimelist.net/anime/37987/Violet_Evergarden_Movie)). These two movies honestly made me appreciate the series more as a whole.
I watched it with some friends and I'm the only one who found it weird apparently. It's a shame because I really liked the TV version and now it just feels tainted.
Not an anime (i mean, there is an anime, but the point where it ends is fine) But Yofukashi no Uta could've cut out a huge chunk of the middle part and it'd be much better
I agree, should have ended after the game that shares the name of the series. That ending scene overlooking Aincrad, and then the credits where he walks through the hallway. Leaving it there would be absolutely perfect.
When I showed my husband this anime, that's precisely what I did. No more episodes after SAO.
> Leaving it there would be absolutely perfect.
I disagree. S1 needed a lot more time to be perfect. Take the first arc but instead of keeping it 12 episodes long, make a full 24 episode season out of it, and develop Kirito more, i.e. tone down the harem shenanigans in favour of exploring Kirito's PTSD, guilt, etc. his relationship with Asuna and others more serious relation (not the harem bs), maybe do something with Kayaba instead of the half-assed bs we get. Then it could be perfect. Otherwise it's still a good start with a harem interrupting the good part, then a rushed end.
Nisekoi, and many other romance stories out there, especially Seo Kouji's hit works. Gone were the days romance are wrapped up within 30 chapters to 50 chapters, or even 100 chapters. They go on for 300 chapters even though there's no more stories to tell.
Nisekoi should have been written properly instead of being boring harem trash. I hate this "let's write the mc and love interest #26737 having a romantic moment that comes from some cosmic accident or rigid rules of Japanese society™ forcing them to do something vaguely romantic but without any agency on their part".
It's romance ex machina crossing into slapstick romance, "oops, I fell and molested every woman in the tri-state area". Mostly because you can't really have both characters actively pursue romance of their own volition in a harem if you want the mc not to appear as some immoral two-timing bastard, until the end of the series.
Then you get a final confession and the series ends, because they already did everything a couple would do, but without any real intent on their part, which makes it all meaningless. And the author is a coward unable to write couples.
What exactly did I read those almost 200 chapters for? To not even get to see the couple I know was coming from the beginning? That's why I like shoujo manga and some LN based romances. They go beyond the characters getting together and there's an actual arc to the relationship instead of blushy pseudoromantic slapstick hijinks.
Vegeta's final atonement is one of the peak moments in battle shonen, Buu Saga was definitely not milked at all. If Buu Saga didn't exist, neither would my favorite arc in the series, the Gohan high school arc. Didn't we get introduced to fusion in the Buu Saga too?
Iirc it was an alt universe preceded by the 3 "recap but totally not just recap" movies. Or at least that's what I believe.
I like it if I turn my brain off but in the grand scheme of things, it just cheapened the impact of the original series.
Might be controversial: Madoka. Series perfectly wrapped everything up. Sequel movie undid some of that. Remember reading an interview that also said the story for that movie was written just to have more material for the franchise. The universe might be inspiring, but story of first season should have been respected more IMHO.
I hate this take but I have to admire your guts for saying it.
The OG series does end cleanly but god do I love the expansion of the base idea in Rebellion, that's what takes Madoka from a very good dark take on magical girls to actual art. Homura's story is one of my favorite works of fiction, period.
Fully in agreement there. I remember being so excited for the movie. To be fair, it did have a lot of stylish flair that made it fun to watch, but it just... wasn't necessary, or even all that good.
The first two movies retelling the original story were more disappointing to me, though. Rebellion, at least, was written to be a movie. Madoka's main story was written to be an episode-based TV show, and the pacing was centered around that 20-ish minute runtime per episode.
Making it into movies just destroyed so many dramatic beats.
Honestly, I've always felt like Naruto Shippûden was stretched out too much.
I could've stopped right after Naruto Vs. Pain fight, and it would've been a fulfilling ending to me.
I don't know, I just didn't like where the story went after this, it felt a bit too much for me with the Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan bit. I only got progressively disengaged after this.
[Kimi ni Todoke](https://myanimelist.net/anime/6045/Kimi_ni_Todoke)
I love romance anime, but I don't like stretched-out dramas because of wishy-washy characters. I like the wholesomeness in season 1 mixed with a bit of drama. IMO, season 2 of this anime deliberately dragged out the drama, which irritated me.
Maybe this is controversial, but I think Yu Yu Hakusho should have ended with the Dark Tournament. Haven’t rewatched the whole series recently, Chapter Black felt really dull. The Demon World Tournament could have been good, but it needed to be longer.
Your Lie in April. I felt like the show could've wrapped up the story in just 13 episodes rather than have 22 episodes since they were mainly used to drag out the performances and it got boring to watch.
Knights of Sidonia's second season was so much shittier than the first. It's like they saw everything that made the first season special and did the opposite of that.
The movie Hells. It feels like it should have ended *more than once* before it actually does and leaves a lot of people like "bro, it's still going???"
That would have actually been a pretty bad place to end the story given the whole "Marley" arc was first introduced and ALOT of plot points left unanswered and would have just felt like the story was axed. Very unsatisfying if you ask me.
FOOD WARS S4's ending didn't complete all the plot points, but I would have been satisfied with the end there.S5 was just a weird, goofy slop of an end to the story.
After end of season 4 we could have had a few more episodes to close the plot points and that's it. We didn't need supernatural bullshit "CROSSING KNIVES" Erina's half brother and cooking with chainsaws
What about cooking with dynamite?
I mean that's one way to start the fire... And blow up the kitchen.
Season 5 was so bad. The absurd evil organization of cooks with goofy ass super powers really killed it for me.
And they stole at least half of those powers from Chuuka Ichiban (not done with the series, wouldn't be surprised if they stole all of them).
Was literally about to say this. A good, satisfying ending was right there, but then they stretched it out for one arc too long and just completely killed it (derogatory).
Food wars is among my top three Manga series ever but it also holds one of the worst manga endings I’ve ever read maybe top 3 worse also. Love the series so much but the blue arc is so bad. Should’ve just ended at central
We could have gone straight from the S4 finale into the back half of the S5 finale without missing anything of value.
Loved FW and was so glad I didn’t watch S5. Liked how S4 ended and that was good for me. However, S4 was the first time I’ve ever noticed a massive drop in animation in any show. It felt like watching a PowerPoint and it broke my heart.
I might just have low asf standards. But I actually liked the 'everyone lived happily ever after' ending. The blue arc as a whole was kinda silly, tho.
The conclusion wasn't downright awful (though not the most satisfying), but the final arc did sour the whole thing for me.
Agreed. Sure they wanted to show that Soma won the competition his dad didn't show up to, but maybe it would have just been enough for Soma to have a tie or win against his dad.
Food Wars should have ended after the second season. The show started sucking the moment Central was introduced.
Nah, the [Food Wars S4] >!egg jelly reveal of Erina's dish with the first op playing!< is one of my favourite anime moments of all time.
There is no season 5. 😀 Trust me, there is. No. Season 5. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😅😅😅😅
It was originally supposed to end a season earlier but there was pressure from above to keep it going as far as I know the manga was originally planned to end sooner too but same reasons
One of my best decisions was not watching Season 5 when it was annoucned and I was vindicated by the crazy type video clips I saw crunchyroll putting out it looked like S5 of Food Wars was a parody of itself. S4 is the finale in my head cannon
Rikekoi could have ended halfway S2 since it concluded its primary objetive. Then the second half was a descent into the worst end of 2022.
And the final episode/final 2 3 episodes might be the singular worst episode(s) I've seen of a show. Like HOW do you mess up so bad
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The Promised Neverland You probably know why. Maybe season 2 could have been good but wow…should’ve just ended at season 1 to avoid that disaster
Or just not shortcut S2/S3
Source material was bad imo. Became a mediocre battle manga with terrible "mystery." No salvaging that. Plot was planned out for the escape part and everything else was just shit they came up with as they went.
I heard the material they skipped was the best arc of the series though.
It was, but the series really fell apart after it. I really hate like the entire second half of the manga, and the ending was worse.
The Goldy Pond Arc was 100% better than the first one and was great to read. Not only did they cut one of the better characters of the series, we never got to see Emma really grow. But pretty much everything after that arc was almost as bad as Season 2. It was just odd seeing such a drastic drop in the plot.
It was. Was soo excited for Goldy Pond arc for example, but welp…:))
Eh it was kinda mid in the manga too
Wdym there’s no season 2
The original Macross series should've ended at episode 27, like it was originally supposed to. I like a few of the ideas the remaining episodes set up, but everything related to [vague SDF spoilers]>!drawing the love triangle out when it *should* have already been resolved!< tanked my score for the show from a 9/10 to a 6/10.
Yeah the second half of Macross was not as engaging. I do like the story of the ongoing Zentradi war and the additional campaign, but I very much agree with your comments.
I disagree. I think it made it a more real (for a story about 40 ft giant aliens) story because not everything was perfect after beating the big bad enemy.
Might be a slightly weird answer, but I felt that way for both Banished From the Hero's Party and Misfit of Demon King Academy, I'm not a source reader but both of those felt like the season 1 end was a terrific finale only for another season to pop up where I didn't really care about what was going on
Definitely agree with Misfit. No matter how sloppy season 2 gets, season 1 is still a great complete story.
even in the source s1 finale which is vol3 felt like the end lol, which is generally cause author writes in a way that there's plot break every 3 volumes despite there being more unsolved mystery in anime it was less obvious which is most likely cause of anime habit of skipping chunk of source material. [even author had to say this about the vol3 lol](https://imgur.com/a/8ZpOPtD)
Agree on Banished. First season was a nice chill romance between adults. This second season I dropped because did not care…
Yea the magic wasn’t there like it had been and now it’s got a lot more fan service and intricate plot points like bro I just want to see this dude chill with his wife not stop an evil plot or something.
I just dropped it when I saw the hero going after the MC and realized that it was that type of show. Honestly S1 was far far better
I loved Banished S1 but holy shit Van made me hate S2 so unbelievably much.
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For a series where one of the primary complaints about the ending is that it’s rushed and needed more time to flesh out its ideas, ending it earlier and overall giving it even less time to work out an ending to its story feels like a solution which wouldn’t actually do much to fix the problem
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I disagree with this for several reasons. Firstly, as far as the common consensus goes, there's more about the last third that was rushed/underdeveloped than just the [FranXX]>!aliens!< plot. [In particular]>!everything surrounding Ikuno and her sexuality & the Nines' thematic purpose immediately comes to mind. Hell, pretty much all of the cast outside the main trio would suffer significantly from having the episode count reduced, given how developing the rest of Squad 13 was already one of the main things the show seriously struggled with.!< Secondly, [FranXX]>!the aliens plot!< didn't exactly just pop into the series out of thin air, it was an extension of/answer to the lingering mysteries which had been bubbling up across the series, specifically regarding APE's true nature & what the Klaxxosaurs even are. Now, call me crazy, but I don't think shaving off the episode count would particularly help in providing satisfactory alternative answers to these questions. Not even mentioning that that kind of shortening would also mean losing the backstory episode which contextualized a good portion of the series' lore. Thirdly, such a drastic shortening would also seriously eat into the series' thematics. The environmentalist messaging, the way it tried extending its coming-of-age/discovery of sexuality themes to the supporting cast through the [FranXX]>!Kokoro pregnancy!< subplot, the fairy tale symbolism which has been a part of the series since literally the first minute of the first episode, etc. Overall, there's just way too many moving parts to the series, both on the plot and thematic levels, that shortening the episode count is very much not a remotely helpful solution when it comes to fixing the issues people have with the show.
they do this in the manga adaptation, the story just ends at the point where aliens appear in the anime.
wonder egg priority
I really wish this one could be remade to fix the plot holes. Such a great concept.
This one still hurts. A unique premise with good storytelling, great animation, well-handled deep emotional themes...and it shat the bed so disappointedly hard.
Rent-A-Girlfriend should have ended before season 1
And somehow, it’s up to 300+ chapters in the manga, with no real end in sight.
It's just every Romcom that focuses on girlfriend with 1 quirk.
Shouldn't have started, that's the best ending for everyone, to never ever see rent a girlfriend
I've watched all seasons of the anime so far and I don't know why I keep doing so... It's rubbish but somehow keeps me entertained enough to finish? It's entirely carried by the girls as the MC is nothing but a c_nt ruining what would have been great scenes if he didn't suddenly start talking about his boner. It feels dragged out to me by adding more girls. There's now some zoomer girl or something just to stir up tensions between the other girls.
I watched Eureka 7 15 years ago and refuse to watch anything else that's come from the series. I feel like I've been proven correct for doing so. Weird example is that Toradora's last episode is a pointless conflict to the point of being obnoxious and thus I would like to suggest it would be better to end exactly one episode earlier. Considering one thing of note that happens by the end, that's probably blasphemous to fans, but it otherwise really undermines the feelgood feeling of the series' ending for no good reason.
Something to note about Toradora is the light novel released its final volume the same month the final episode aired. (Similar situation with Horimiya’s final chapter coming out 2 weeks before season 1 ended) I won’t go into spoilers, but the last chapter of Toradora’s LN preserves the feel-good-ness of the previous episode, but imo is much stronger than the actual final episode’s conclusion.
Spoil me I know I’m not gonna read it
Horimiya "ended" when they turned side characters into main characters. I wasn't interested in manga at all after that.
Eureka 7 is so damn good. I watched E7 AO and it was extremely mediocre. I'm not watching anything else made since. You made the correct choice. Nothing of value has been added beyond the original series.
One of the hi evolution movies should be watched..I can't remember which
As a long time Eureka Seven fan who watched it as it aired and has continued to followed it all these years i do think the "Other stuff" as people call it is worth it. I have 1 main opinion about it though. You have to watch it yourself and see if you like it or not. I know that can be a scary thought but its worth trying. The extended content is very polarizing reception wise and people either love or hate it. But its still popular and many parts still well rated among fans. No one online will know what you think or feel so you should def see for yourself. But again its a you will like it or not. Refusing to watch something is fine, but using that as an excuse to belittle something you know nothing about isnt ideal. Many people trash the extended content and refuse to watch it but many never acctually saw it themselves. It is made by all the same people so those are the people people are giving crap to. So i will say, if you truely did like Eureka Seven give the extended content a try. Go in with an open mind and just see what its about and see what you think about it. There is a lot of very cool stuff in there and a lot of it answers a lot of unanswered questions from the original series. And the original series' ending was always very quick, but AO really adds a whole other side to the story and a much more complete ending point for the story as a whole. Also Hi Evo movies are pretty great and help build up characters more. ---------- I will outline all the extended content and you can choose to watch it or not. Personally i loved the ENTIRE story of Eureka Seven so Extended Content included. Here is the entire list in the order it came out. (order to watch it) [**Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/237/Koukyoushihen_Eureka_Seven) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bkAdNAqXCE) The original series which focuses on Renton, Eureka, Gekko State, and gets a bit into what the Scub Coral are. [**Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven: Pocket Full of Rainbows**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/4246/Koukyoushihen_Eureka_Seven__Pocket_ga_Niji_de_Ippai) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vbM4DQ_RCY) The Sequel Movie that tells a story from an alternate timeline. This movie further expands on what Nirvash and TheEnd are as well as gets deeper into what scubs are and more into what Eureka and Anemone are. This movie also brings into the story the idea of other timelines which is important going forward. [**Eureka Seven Astral Ocean / Eureka Seven AO**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/12471/Eureka_Seven_AO) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmgLt0yB9k) The full length Sequel Series to Eureka Seven. The story is about a boy named Ao who is Renton and Eureka's child as he tries to learn where he came from and track down his parents. This story expands a LOT of the world of the series and wraps up a lot of questions points from the original series that were not answered like what are Scubs and where did they come from. There is an OVA final episode for this series so if you watch it. Make sure to watch the OVA "Eureka Seven AO: One More Time - Lord Dont Slow Me Down" [**Eureka Seven Hi-Evolution Movie Series**](https://myanimelist.net/anime/35134/Koukyoushihen_Eureka_Seven_Hi-Evolution_1) - [Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJ49Lg__a8) This movie series came out recently and fills in a lot of gaps in the original series also like who Renton's father was and what happened to him and all that. They also tell their own stories but they are all more story in this world. I will say if what you loved about Eureka Seven was the characters, the action, the music, and the world, then all of those will give you that and more. I personally loved them but some people did not enjoy them because they didnt want the original story expanded. But all of these were made by the same people who wrote Eureka Seven. So if you enjoyed that you should enjoy the rest. ---------- Also all the music people is the same, some of my favorite music in the series is in AO and the Movie. Eureka Seven OST Greats [Storywriter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHP_9heGEKo) - [Niji](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcDmqG2f_bs) Eureka Seven Pocket Full of Rainbows OST Greats [Space Rock](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7sHNVag77g) (probably my fav song in franchise) Eureka Seven Astral Ocean OST Greats [Astral Ocean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYjO1GlJam0) - [OP Signal ALERT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9w-IRgkN70) - [RE-PARADOX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCZiYO-vZUk) - [Apocalypse of a New Beginning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pbdVA_yNSk) - [Seven Swell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmOA8ze-Drc) [IFO-RA272 NIRVASH SPEC-M2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJdERiK97Z0) - [IFO-RA164 ALLELUIA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPl9evfmD1A) - [IFO-RA301 KYRIE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtXZBT_HmY) [](#juice1)
Higurashi Sotsu Delete the meandering answer arcs that explain the mystery that was already solved.
yup, one of the bigger issues of that show was that they tried to recapture what they did in the original, but it doesn't work if you already know who the main threat is, it just bores you to death. And let's not even talk about the resolution, which is pretty bad in general.
Higurashi in general. Just remove the "remake" or turn it into a real remake.
Guilty crown. The 2nd half of the show was just completely unnecessary and made it so much worse imo
Watching Guilty Crown was like watching half a plot from several different anime shows that all lead to nowhere.
I still listen to the opening of Guilty Crown and the OST because they were just so good. But what the heck was that second half? I have never had the urge to watch it again even though I remember really enjoying the first half because the second half was just so terrible.
*Yu Yu Hakusho* really didn’t need that last arc
I really enjoyed the three kings arc but I think it probably needed to be an extra 5-10 episodes longer to flesh it out properly, it felt a bit too rushed to me.
Yea id rather it end early than whatever that was. Similar to HxH tbh, as much as I'm enjoying this arc, if its not going to get a proper ending imma just pretend the anime ending is the ending.
Tbf the anime ending is excellent. Kurapika's story is still loose, but overall it's just such a good stopping point.
Nah, I'd say that YYH took a wrong turn during the Sensui arc, but the minute they introduce Reizen via Yusuke's mind control episode they had to pretty much do something with that arc to answer it. You don't just introduce something like that and then do nothing with it. I would have liked to have seen YYH definitively end with the Chapter Black arc too, but the way that arc ended necessitated the Three Kings arc to actually finish the story.
The last arc fleshed out Yusuke, Kurama, and especially Hiei, so I think it's a bad idea to cut it out completely. I do, however, think it was rushed and was cut short. It should have been longer to flesh things out even further.
Better than the live action which condensed like 4 arcs into 5 1hr episodes.
agreed, but tbf it was fulfilling the dream Atsuko had about her son beating up demons in hell.
I will be downvoted to hell for this, but hear me out. I wish AOT focused more on the Eren’s story and the thought process behind them rather than Gabi and Falco. I was just tired by the end of seasons 4 and 5 honestly. New characters are still being introduced and so much concluded in just a few sentences of dialogue with Armin. I have so many questions and what was the whole deal with that Ymir’s story and not being able to break free from abuse? (AOT refers to it as love btw). Anyways, I was a bit confused and empty after the way it ended I wish they ended it in season 4 after spending some time with Eren
Rather than straight up stop after a certain point I think a lot of shows could have been slightly repurposed to have capitalize on their strengths betters. The best segment might benefit from being slightly extended and/or re-written in a way where it can stick end on a satisfying note. OP mentions Death note, that's a great example of a show that wouldn't necessarily have had a banger ending if it had outright ended at "that point". But at the same time everything beyond that point is of a lower quality than what came before. I think re-writing that turning point so and perhaps extending that segment of the story a little so it would serve as a great finale would have resulted in a better overall product. The Promised Neverland always comes up and for good reason. But I think even it's source material loses the strength of it's mystery/thriller throughline fairly early in it's runtime and cutting the lower quality content in the back half in favor of extending that season 1 segment where it managed to really play into it's strengths would have also resulted in a better manga/anime overall even if the total length of the manga might have only been half as long.
I liked how the 2006 live action handled Death Note's ending.
How did it end?
[Spoiler] >!Light's capture plays out basically the same but with L instead of Near since he wrote his own name in the Death Note before Rem kills him.!<
[Same Death Note spoiler] >!So he figured out that they would kill him if he proceeded and wrote his name so that until it activated he was immune and he set a large amount of time for himself? That's brilliant and thematic, giving up everything to win their game.!<
[Spoiler] >!He writes that he'll die 23 days later. Then he gets a Logan type spinoff movie of his final days.!<
That sounds like a better general direction for them to have gone in. I guess they also saw that.
Oh god, Twelve Kingdoms. Episode 39 feels like what should be the actual ending. Episode 40, however, is a very good wrap up episode to tie up some loose ends. This would also work well as an ending, but we then get... Episodes 41 - 44, a flashback arc that serves as an origin story for a pair of side characters. It's nothing special. And then we get... Episode 45, the actual last episode, which is a recap episode for the 4 episode arc that just finished. The end. Some people say it got cancelled, as far as I'm aware it might have just run out of material to adapt and they never went back to it for various reasons. Who knows. But the show went on 5 episodes too long.
the misfit of demon king academy. it could've ended perfectly at the end of season 1. or at the end of season 2 cour 1. but no it keeps on going lol.
I thought s2 was over and then it just... kept going lol
It's so strange for me, cos there are so many things going on that have not been explained and open plot points, why would have anyone wanted it to end after S1? 😅
Psycho Pass. The first season was very solid (I still recommend it), but the franchise just has kept continually churning out more and more seasons / sequel movies of lesser quality. It probably should have ended with the first season, frankly. IMO easy contender for this list. Everyone here has already mentioned Death Note, Madoka Magica, Code Geass. The latter half/third of Death Note wasn't bad, but it is true that it wasn't as strong as the beginning of the series. Madoka Magica ended perfectly. I personally was fine with the sequel film, however. I haven't seen Resurrection yet, I watched the first two or so films for Akito the Exiled years back. Haven't watched the end of that or uhh any of the newer content. So can't comment, but evidently the original series was quite solid on its own. DBZ, I fairly disagree. Though the Buu Saga is weaker, it's still great and had some incredible moments of character development, particularly for Vegeta. GT was bad. Haven't seen Super, but the few clips I've seen certainly have been at least reasonable. Shouldn't be expected to be remotely on par with DBZ, but it seemed to me to at least be satisfactory, show some development, and have character interactions (like where X character went post-DBZ) that would appeal to fans. Bleach, I disagree entirely. From what I've seen so far for TYBW, all the little moments and foreshadowing throughout the entirety of the series are culminating in the final arcs. It's clear that Kubo planned out the series, and it shows. And with the stellar adaptation so far, I have no real complaints. It's getting the treatment it deserves (well aside from Disney+ Jail, but that's not the show itself).
I agree with psycho-pass. S1 was great and whil I recall liking S2 as well but it was a completely separate story. I haven't watched anything else in that franchise though.
Different writers and season 1 and 2 were not contiguous when released. It's hard not see it as Season 1 being successful and someone(s) on the production committee decided to take the ball and see how far they could run with it. I'm okay with that, it's not like season 1 is gone or retroactively worse, but IMO it was probably originally written as a stand-alone story.
Yeah, I'm certainly not one to stop recommending a series for falling off in later parts of the story or later seasons. Doesn't detract from how good S1 was, and to an extent there was still some good content afterwards. Quality just clearly drops off. Some criticize Erased for the ending and say the entirety is not worth watching as a result, but the beginning was so solid I'd still recommend it . Or well Promised Neverland S2 uhh was a dumpster fire, but S1 was absolutely amazing. In the case of Psycho Pass, S1 was also a self-contained story. So it's even less of a problem, really.
Shield Hero, it could’ve ended at season 1 and I’d have been fine with it
Agree. I've watched it all and enjoyed it but S1 was far better. The rest has dropped off quite a bit. My issue is Malty continues to exist and keeps dragging the anime down because she's just not an interesting character. She keeps making it "oh, other heroes are shit and I'm a bitch". I will add that I have been spoiled as to potential future series in regards to Malty but I really hope she just fucks off soon so the anime can have some potentially more interesting plots rather than "bitch manipulates idiots into fighting the shield hero rather than the author writing an actually good plot".
The change in scope that happened in the last few episodes of S1 tipped me off, as did the scenes suggesting Malty would continue to be a problem, so I never got into S2. S1 minus the last few episodes make for a decent self-contained story that actually fits the title, though.
SAO should have ended after s1 ep12
(Mother's Rosario was good...)
It should have jumped from that to Alicization
Yugioh Arc V The series becomes way too bloated and a mess a lot earlier on in the synchro arc and the fusion dimension arc was a mess but it’s a much better ending than whatever the final Reina arc was. Literally the last like 12 episodes become about making a baby smile. I’m not joking should’ve just ended it at Zarc and call it day. The final duel against reiji/declan was bad too
It would be much more fun if they stayed at pendulum dimension and deal with whatever Leo throw toward their way. Their own dimension is already amusing and interesting with school that teach different summoning method. Synchro dimension is a boring snoozefest to go through (every single fight beside Shun Vs Dennis is a filler and we all know Yuya just gonna duel against Jack anyway) and the other 2 are even more boring.
My Hero Academia, got far too big (scale wise) for its own good
The problem is less that it got too big, and more that it got big too fast. MHA *really* needed a Shippuden-style timeskip at some point so that the students could become actual pro heroes which would allow the scope to expand organically in preparation for the war arc.
I think they shouldnt have done the war arc in the first place and kept the scale down. It was good up untill season 4 then went off the rails. Don't have Shigaraki and All For One become unstoppable monsters and make Japan a post apocalyptic world with Deku being one of the strongest beings alive and insted have Shigaraki try to further destroy the hero society (metaphorically) with taking out heroes and exposing them with people like Hawks and Endavor all the while Deku and his class attempting to rebuild the reputation of heroes.
Man, I hate the power creep and how things ends up. I liked it when it was about daily life of young heroes, their struggles and passion to learn and master their quirks, sometimes go on adventures with the adults heroes, helping with catastrophic disaster or overwhelming villain. Instead it went full trash isekai.
The power creep ruined the action parts for me. MHA used to be about smart usage of the characters' abilities, but now Shigaraki's ability is that he can do anything and Deku is almost as bad.
Yup this is what kinda ruined it for me. I was always really interested in how Deku would overcome the downsides of his quirk. He kept breaking his arm, so he started just breaking his fingers individually to be able to smash more times. He was using his legs because they are stronger and can take more, he started using his entire body with full cowling. The power progression felt very natural in that sense. He didnt just get stronger for shits and giggles by training for 3 days, you actually see him learn and try different things to master his power. Then all of that gets thrown out the window because now hes just uber strong and rolls up with some new OFA ability every other episode. Which we dont even see him mastering anymore. He just pulls it off flawlessly straight away. He went from an interesting character with downsides to yet another generic MC who can do everything.
It really should have been him masting base all for one before even introducing the stacked powers. What was he at, 20% max when blackwhip came into play?
Agreed. The War arc is what caused them to break away from the school itself and turn into mad max super hero world. Kinda got to that point way too quick for what the story was.
Best take. I hadn't even considered a time-skip for making more sense of where things have gone, but that would have been perfect. I wonder if the author didn't go for it BECAUSE it's kind of a shonen trope at this point? But tropes are tropes because they work.
MHA seems like author was more addicted to Marvel superheroes than actual shonen tropes. Horikoshi just really wanted to draw Deku as Spiderman or straight up skipping kurogiri fight just for him to cosplay as Dr strange and do the avenger endgame moment.
Yea the story should have allowed the students to grow up to at least be seniors by the time we get to where we are in the story. I think that's what nearly all of us expected to happen when the series started.
True. It's a great show, I like it but the side cast got too bloated and it started to become hard to keep track of characters.
Was also sad that no one really talked about it and the manga is like youtuber clickbait. Alot of supposedly climatic stuff happening only for it to get immediately solved in next chapters. And alot of the scenes felt like it just excuse for Horikoshi to draw epic and coolshot but didn't want to afford to build it up like One piece or any other show.
My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom It's pretty clear that they only really had any ideas for 1 season. Like pretty quickly into season 2 I went "oh they don't really have anything else for these characters to do huh" since most subplots at that point are kidnapping plots and all the love interest characters will just sorta, be hanging out together and say their One Character Trait Line every time they show up. Katarina's charm also wears off pretty quickly, especially in regards to her not understanding that girls can be in love with each other. Like, you come from the real world Katarina, you should know what a bisexual person is.
The great pretender. They could have skipped the entire last arc and it would've been a good show
OreImo Awful ending for everyone regardless of your ship, for some incredibly stupid reasons.
Terror in resonance was twice as long as it should have been. The entire last half made absolutely no difference to the story.
I feel like I can remember most anime I've seen or have an emotional impression of it, but I just can't remember anything about Terror in Resonance
You’re right! I only remember a motorcycle ride, a ferris wheel and an airport. Oh and a girl with bad English.
> Oh and a girl with bad English. I hated everything about five, and that was the cherry on the shit sundae.
> I only remember a motorcycle ride, a ferris wheel I can't remember much of the story but these two scenes definitely left an impression even 10 years later. Very memorable soundtrack too
I remember the hype for it while airing and then absolutely not giving any shits about it by the end. It wasn't memorable enough for me to say much more than that though.
Yes, that’s how I remember it too. Sort of a seasonal flash in the pan that was forgotten about.
I know I watched it and loved it. That’s all but I was prob 10 when I watched it 🤣
The woman in the 2nd half made no sense on top of an already vague and aimless series.
Boruto
Before it's even started lol
Aboruto...
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The movie was fine but let's not speak about the actual anime
Banana Fish - could as well have ended with episode 13. After that it was just repeating itself and trying to milk the maximum amount of trauma and heartache.
Here me out naruto
Where would you cut it off? After first Zabuza fight?
Common answer is after pain when naruto is accepted by the village. But the issue is that there are still unresolved plot points being sasuke and the rest of the akatsuki, plus whatever was going on with kabuto at the time.
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Death Note. Darling in the Franx (tbh, just removing the last idk, 5 minutes? The reinc bullshit) would've made it 10x better.
+1 DitF
Violet evergarden, she goes through all this development on living life without this man and finding her way in life rather than just being a tool. Only to go backward on all that development for said man who is significantly older than her and raised her. While the series is great, and the movie is good, sometimes I wish I had not watched the movie and ended Violet's story before it.
I got to know what happens later in the story long before the Gaiden movie dropped so I never watched it and I'm glad I didn't. No way you could take such a beautifully written plot and shit all over it.
Eternity and the Auto Memory Doll is a side story, it's not about Violet, and it's really good you should watch it > No way you could take such a beautifully written plot and shit all over it. Well, they didn't, they made it work (at least most people would agree considering [it's high rating](https://myanimelist.net/anime/37987/Violet_Evergarden_Movie)). These two movies honestly made me appreciate the series more as a whole.
I watched it with some friends and I'm the only one who found it weird apparently. It's a shame because I really liked the TV version and now it just feels tainted.
Not an anime (i mean, there is an anime, but the point where it ends is fine) But Yofukashi no Uta could've cut out a huge chunk of the middle part and it'd be much better
I think the whole issue between the two males could've been shortened, I dropped the manga during that arc
Sword Art Online, End of Season 1
Better yet, halfway through season 1.
I agree, should have ended after the game that shares the name of the series. That ending scene overlooking Aincrad, and then the credits where he walks through the hallway. Leaving it there would be absolutely perfect. When I showed my husband this anime, that's precisely what I did. No more episodes after SAO.
> Leaving it there would be absolutely perfect. I disagree. S1 needed a lot more time to be perfect. Take the first arc but instead of keeping it 12 episodes long, make a full 24 episode season out of it, and develop Kirito more, i.e. tone down the harem shenanigans in favour of exploring Kirito's PTSD, guilt, etc. his relationship with Asuna and others more serious relation (not the harem bs), maybe do something with Kayaba instead of the half-assed bs we get. Then it could be perfect. Otherwise it's still a good start with a harem interrupting the good part, then a rushed end.
Nisekoi, and many other romance stories out there, especially Seo Kouji's hit works. Gone were the days romance are wrapped up within 30 chapters to 50 chapters, or even 100 chapters. They go on for 300 chapters even though there's no more stories to tell.
Nisekoi should have been written properly instead of being boring harem trash. I hate this "let's write the mc and love interest #26737 having a romantic moment that comes from some cosmic accident or rigid rules of Japanese society™ forcing them to do something vaguely romantic but without any agency on their part". It's romance ex machina crossing into slapstick romance, "oops, I fell and molested every woman in the tri-state area". Mostly because you can't really have both characters actively pursue romance of their own volition in a harem if you want the mc not to appear as some immoral two-timing bastard, until the end of the series. Then you get a final confession and the series ends, because they already did everything a couple would do, but without any real intent on their part, which makes it all meaningless. And the author is a coward unable to write couples. What exactly did I read those almost 200 chapters for? To not even get to see the couple I know was coming from the beginning? That's why I like shoujo manga and some LN based romances. They go beyond the characters getting together and there's an actual arc to the relationship instead of blushy pseudoromantic slapstick hijinks.
Yeah, I wish Nisekoi actually went somewhere. It's so dragged out with nothing really happening.
Dragon Ball Z. Cell Games, or even Namek. By the time of the Buu Saga, it was clear it was just being milked because it was profitable.
I agree that it was being milked but personally the Buu Saga is my favorite. It has some of the best fights and great character moments for Vegeta.
Vegeta's final atonement is one of the peak moments in battle shonen, Buu Saga was definitely not milked at all. If Buu Saga didn't exist, neither would my favorite arc in the series, the Gohan high school arc. Didn't we get introduced to fusion in the Buu Saga too?
https://youtu.be/QbTZ5wFZ6ZE Totally agree. One of the best moments in DBZ was Vegeta's inner monologue regarding his respect for Goku.
Cell Games was the best saga though. DB isn't really a series that has gotten bad due to alot of seasons after all its not that plot driven anyway
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Code Geass. Was that film really necessary?
Iirc it was an alt universe preceded by the 3 "recap but totally not just recap" movies. Or at least that's what I believe. I like it if I turn my brain off but in the grand scheme of things, it just cheapened the impact of the original series.
Might be controversial: Madoka. Series perfectly wrapped everything up. Sequel movie undid some of that. Remember reading an interview that also said the story for that movie was written just to have more material for the franchise. The universe might be inspiring, but story of first season should have been respected more IMHO.
I hate this take but I have to admire your guts for saying it. The OG series does end cleanly but god do I love the expansion of the base idea in Rebellion, that's what takes Madoka from a very good dark take on magical girls to actual art. Homura's story is one of my favorite works of fiction, period.
Rebellion movie was amazing what are you saying. Homura carries Madoka franchise
Fully in agreement there. I remember being so excited for the movie. To be fair, it did have a lot of stylish flair that made it fun to watch, but it just... wasn't necessary, or even all that good. The first two movies retelling the original story were more disappointing to me, though. Rebellion, at least, was written to be a movie. Madoka's main story was written to be an episode-based TV show, and the pacing was centered around that 20-ish minute runtime per episode. Making it into movies just destroyed so many dramatic beats.
I was talking specifically about Rebellion.
Honestly, I've always felt like Naruto Shippûden was stretched out too much. I could've stopped right after Naruto Vs. Pain fight, and it would've been a fulfilling ending to me. I don't know, I just didn't like where the story went after this, it felt a bit too much for me with the Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan bit. I only got progressively disengaged after this.
[Kimi ni Todoke](https://myanimelist.net/anime/6045/Kimi_ni_Todoke) I love romance anime, but I don't like stretched-out dramas because of wishy-washy characters. I like the wholesomeness in season 1 mixed with a bit of drama. IMO, season 2 of this anime deliberately dragged out the drama, which irritated me.
Maybe this is controversial, but I think Yu Yu Hakusho should have ended with the Dark Tournament. Haven’t rewatched the whole series recently, Chapter Black felt really dull. The Demon World Tournament could have been good, but it needed to be longer.
Your Lie in April. I felt like the show could've wrapped up the story in just 13 episodes rather than have 22 episodes since they were mainly used to drag out the performances and it got boring to watch.
Knights of Sidonia's second season was so much shittier than the first. It's like they saw everything that made the first season special and did the opposite of that.
It’s the manga man
Bleach after Aizen fight is an easy one.
If this was r/manga I might have agreed with you, but the anime adaptation of TYBW has been pretty awesome so far.
Death Note
Tokyo Revengers, episode 12 or 13 can't remember.
Rent a girlfriend
The movie Hells. It feels like it should have ended *more than once* before it actually does and leaves a lot of people like "bro, it's still going???"
Fena Pirate Princess
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Usagi Drop. It shouldn't have existed in the first place
Misfits of demon academy, should never returned
Agree with Death Note.
kimi ni todoke should have been one season. It just kind of dragged on a while at the end there.
I thought the end of SAO ep14 was the perfect ending and was perfectly satisfied with it and then the show kept going.
A lot of the later arcs such as ggo and alicization were leagues ahead of the og season. We don't talk about the fucking fairy arc tho.
I tried GGO but it just doesn't have the same feeling. and it's super harem-y by that point; not a fan.
Why do I like the fairy arc? Do I just have bad taste lol
You're not alone dude. It's a guilty pleasure of mine as well
Wolf's Rain 😞 Actually it needed an entirely different ending, but even just ending a few episodes earlier would've helped a lot
AoT, you know where.
where
In my opinion, I would say Season 3 Part 2 where they reached the sea.
That would have actually been a pretty bad place to end the story given the whole "Marley" arc was first introduced and ALOT of plot points left unanswered and would have just felt like the story was axed. Very unsatisfying if you ask me.
Sword Art Online should have ended after they got out of the first game.
Wonder Egg and Promised Neverland
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The anime ends just fine though?
Death note. Should’ve ended a certain character died rather than bringing in children