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I have a very stupid question but I’ll regret not asking it more than I’ll regret asking it.
What about right-leaning subreddits such as r/conservative? There are even some religious subreddits here that are more left-leaning, so does that make the right-leaning ones more left-leaning than, say, Twitter/X or is it just as right-leaning so as to act as a sort of counterbalance?
Not stupid at all! That is actually a good example of what I mean.
Reddit is a big place and there are spaces for basically everyone.
There are left leaning subs, there are communist subs, there are right leaning subs and there are far right fascist subs.
The nature of subreddits means there's not too much spillover from communities as non default subs tend to keep to themselves.
Twitter isn't split up like Reddit is, so Twitter feels much more consistent in it's bias.
Here on Reddit every community has their own bias.
Be careful! I unwittingly posted an innocuous, neutral reply on r/conservative (didn’t notice the anathema subreddit), and three left-leaning subreddits automatically and permanently banned me just for commenting on it. Within minutes, I had three confrontative, combative notices. My feeling: Well EXCUSE ME!”
There are some pretty heavy handed, cancel-culture, rabid mods out there who stalk these conservative subreddits for the sheer joy of pouncing on the prey. Be forewarned.
The right-leaning subreddits are in fact right-leaning if that answers your question. But the fact of being on Reddit alone makes them pretty vulnerable. They’re heavily moderated because of left-wing trolls and posts still get downvoted by left wing Redditors. This can happen on left wing subs as well, but like all things on the internet, it’s a numbers game and Reddit/social media is not popular to conservatives.
So a post with similar content but a right wing take on a sub such as r/conservative may get 50upvotes. But if you post it to r/politics with a left wing take it will get >2000upvotes. And kiss your Reddit karma goodbye if you reveal yourself as conservative on r/politics or r/presidents or any other “neutral” sub.
It does not help that many conservatives are just assholes.
They talk about freedom and the ability to make your own choices but they want everybody else to conform or be gone. They didn't like gays or trans or immigrant people, or even other religions.
They are very big hypocrites.
That’s a huge generalization. There are conservatives that exist that are bigoted but it’s a small minority. And liberals have their own bigoted minority as well.
Just because someone is nice to the people around them and have a smile does not mean they are not assholes.
If they support conservative policies like getting Christianity back in government but thinking all other religions should be out then they are assholes.
Same with gay people or trans people. They should be allowed to exist without assholes attacking them.
Plus far right terrorism is the biggest threat in America.
Conservative people like to claim to be nice while they support people who are not. They like to distance themselves so they pretend that it is other people who do these things while supporting a party that supports hating people who are different from them.
Plus conservatives are literal hypocrites
8 years ago they were going off about how it would be completely unacceptable for a person who is under indictment to be elected president, but today they are okay with it
8 years ago they said it's completely wrong for Obama to install a supreme Court Justice when he has less than a year left in his presidency, but then 4 years later, they pushed through a supreme Court Justice with less than 30 days of Trump's presidency left.
They will literally say anything that fits the situation at the time and completely change their perspective if it fits them better later.
They don't believe in anything except hate
Imagine every time you say something stupid, you get called out on it, so you say that the entire system is against you. Are you winning yet? Did you own the libs?
No, more like there's a set agenda, particularly on reddit. Where's all the Russian bots that are making the right wing narrative? Exactly. You're a literal brainwashed moron.
Absolutely, Reddit has always leaned left (with some exceptions) but changes made since 2016 (entirely arbitrary date, no reason for picking that) have essentially turned half of it into an insane echo chamber.
Reddit is one of the most censored sites, and this contributes to people only seeing one point of view even if the majority of people in real life disagree with that
Yes and you don't have to be in the subs that are political based to see it.
All you have to do is have a view opposite of masses and you'll find out real quick.
On reddit most of the bias leans pretty far left. Here is what I have personally seen
Post: why do conservatives hate women?
Reply: we don't, we just think life begins at or near conception so abortion is murder and because you made the choice that got you pregnant you can't kill the baby
Down voted to hell, your sexism is showing, etc
Post: why is homophobia a thing
Reply: brain scan studies show that straight men react the same way to seeing gay sex as they do to seeing rotting meat
Comments: well that's learn behavior, you are just covering your bigotry
Reply: posts study, highlighting part that says its all straight men even the ones who say it doesn't bother them
My favorite
Post: what do conservatives think about x
Reply: as a conservative...
Comments: hey guys, we found the conservative
(Obviously)
What about wanting to turn America into a Christian country? This was supposed to be a country of religious freedom. The first sentence of the first amendment says ..
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
NO LAWS RESPECTING
The separation of church and state should be enforced.
It was founded and functions on Christian values. What that means is "In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled in Lemon v. Kurtzman that an action is considered an establishment if it: Lacks a secular purpose, Promotes or hinders religion as its primary effect, and Fosters excessive government involvement with religion. "
America was founded by people looking for religious freedom.
And now conservatives want to take that religious freedom away from others.
I know you guys are very good at having somebody tell you which laws to bring up in which situations, but basically you are repeating things that somebody else has told you and that you don't really understand. (You personally might be a lawyer but most people that spout that kind of s*** are not)
But I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong.
>The Establishment Clause acts as a double security, prohibiting both control of the government by religion and political control of religion by the government.By it, the federal government of the United States and, by later extension, the governments of all U.S. states and U.S. territories, are prohibited from establishing or sponsoring religion.
This seems pretty clear to me
Religion has no place in government, and government has no place in religion.
I didn't say religion had a place in politics. Or that I want to ban other religions. There is nothing in the Supreme Court ruling that says religious morality can't influence laws
"religious morality" lol, no such thing any more.
Like hating immigrants?
>The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34
>You have heard that it was said, ‘you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy’. But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.
Matthew 5:43-44
Or how about the overlap between Christians and gun owners
>Matt. 5 Verses 38 to 48 [38] Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: [39] But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Looks like you should not ever need a gun if you were turning the other cheek.
Or how about abortion with the Bible did not say anything about? Is this a man made religious belief?
How about not eating pork
How about the fact that God wants you to love him with a sadomasochists basis... You must worship him if you have heard of him and if you don't you will spend eternity in hell, but he loves you. So he loves you and will torture you?
That's just fucked up, is this the morality you are taking about?
Great 4th grade understanding of the Bible.
I don't have enough crayons and construction paper to give you a basic theology lesson but what you threw out is less understanding than my 10 year old but more than my 7 year old.
No I grew up in a very religious home, when I was young my parents moved our family away for a year to go and live at a Bible school. I know a lot about Christians. I am sorry you are blinded.
Most of the people who call themselves Christian do not behave like it. Some do and they would stay far away from the hateful politics of the right. But most use the Bible to justify their hate of others.
Ask yourself what happened to the Jesus who cared and loved everybody? Because that is not the Republican Jesus.
I said he had a childlike understanding. He is at the coloring book stage of learning. This is the basic Hippie Jesus line of thinking. If someone asks what would Jesus do? Flipping over tables and beating people with a whip is acceptable. So is insulting pretentious people. So is having stipulations on who receives charity. It's also important for a man to be armed, biblically.
I like that "Religion has no place in government, and government has no place in religion."
Let's not forget that the government have no place in telling people how to arm themselves. Let's get rid of all gun laws and the NFA. I feel you, blud 👌
I don't remember anything in the Constitution saying you have unlimited rights to any weapon you want.
Where is the clause that says you have the right to nuclear weapons?
Do you seriously think people should be able to buy bombs big enough to work out a city at a bomb store? How long until someone gets mad and blows up the whole town?
Unlimited arms for everybody is a horrible idea
It says arms, and nuclear weapons are arms. Are they not? Also, I guess the constitution only counts when you nic-pic out of it. Right?! And it also applies to what you deem it should. So, the government can't regulate speech or religion, but... BUT you think, from my assumption, they should regulate arms? You contradict yourself.
FYI, if bad people wanted to get bombs, nukes, illegal arms, they'll do it anyways. Without anyone's approval. Of course they have to be loaded with cash.
One would have to Ignore the whole first half of the second amendment to have that belief.
And to top it off your argument that because people can do something illegally it should be legal is ridiculously flawed.
But nobody has ever accused conservatives of being smart, so I guess you are in good company.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
No one ignores any part of the 2nd amendment. Neither do you, but it seems you're misinterpreting it... The people, you, I, your community, my community, are the militia. That's if they are fit and willing, hence well regulated. It is up to people like us to necessarily create a free state by defending it against tyrannical rule or foreign invasion. You may hate hearing that, but hey, you have free will to do as you please.
So, my question is: If they make a law where only a certain type of religion is permitted, or certain speech is banned, will you comply with those laws? And why? Before you get on about how the 1st and 2nd are different rights, guess what, they aren't different, friend. You remove one, other's are susceptible to the same fate, especially if everyone is ok with it.
Bless your soul and have a great day.
You are delusional
The nra removed the first half at their headquarters because they want to pretend it does not exist
Militia - a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
And you all are anything but well regulated.
You don't even care about kids being shot in schools, how the fuck is that well regulated.
The fact that you think gun owners are fit might be the funniest part, most of them are more like gravy seals. They probably have a hard time waking to the mail box.
The fact is, that amendment was written before America has a standing army. It was necessary to defend our country from invaders. We now have the largest military in the world and needing a militia is out dated.
Plus the whole concept of bearing arms means to fight in a war. There is a quote that goes something like "a man can carry a gun his whole life for hunting and he is never says to have born arms"
Look I understand that guns are fun and make you feel powerful, that's why so many stupid people what to own them.
I am on with hunting rifles and handguns but everything else is bad for society.
Especially when wielded by traitors who hate America.
And the fact that you think your guns will protect you from the US military might be the dumbest most ignorant thought ever. They can drive a tank through your house, they can bomb you from a drone so high you can't see it. You might as well be shooting at the waves in the ocean.
Besides most of the fun lunatics don't give a fuck about rights. Or else they would care about the right of kids to keep breathing.
More than that, any questions I've seen that start "why do conservatives..." Is almost exclusively answered by people npwho aren't and aren't trying to be objective. It's not "they believe this because of this" and more "thry hate women" even though that obviously isn't what the OP is looking for.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/dashboard/exceptions-in-state-abortion-bans-and-early-gestational-limits/
Plenty of states with no health or rape exemption.
Care to explain?
So again, you openly support a party that will make rape victims, fucking children, and people at risk of death give birth.
And you wonder why conservatives get a bad rap?
There can be an honest debate about when a fetus has an actual functional brain or consciousness, but immediately writing it off as murder is dishonest. And again, you wonder why conservatives get a bad rap in public discourse.
They all have exceptions for life of the mother.
You support a party that is in favor of abortion up to the point of birth and possibly after
You support a party that rioted when a rapist got shot while trying to stab a cop
You support a party that lets adults expose themselves to children and you call it brave
I can play that game too
Nope. Literally provided you evidence otherwise.
>You support a party that is in favor of abortion up to the point of birth
Cite it. Common statement with zero evidence.
>and possibly
Absolutely fucking not lmao. Cite me a single case of this being attempted or put into law.
>You support a party that rioted when a rapist got shot while trying to stab a cop
Yup not what happened. And utterly irrelevant to the conversation. Do try to keep on topic.
Also, show me where the Democratic party in any tangible way supported riots. I showed you an actual case of your party forcing a fucking child to give birth.
>You support a party that lets adults expose themselves to children and you call it brave
Yeah again, not what's happening.
You really like to regurgitate talking points with no actual evidence eh?
Shoe me any child being exposed to adults, and any laws attempting to make it legal.
>I can play that game too
No you see the difference is. I provided actual information about the *laws* that your party is passing.
You regurgitated internet talking points with no actual reality to them.
I mean I'm still waiting for you to show me your magical non existent brain study on reactions to homosexuality.
You wonder why conservatives get a bad rap in public discourse and then you continue to just regurgitate fear mongering internet talking points with no basis in reality.
I provided you an actual fucking raped child that was forced to give birth because of your political ideology. Provide me actual cases of what you claim.
What do you think No Restrictions means? Up to the point of birth. They are called late term abortion.
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortions-later-in-pregnancy-in-a-post-dobbs-era/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion
Even if a child is deformed you don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient.
Yay pride month
https://www.newsweek.com/video-man-twerking-pride-children-minneapolis-1809182
Yes bad shit happens. There are over 300 million in this country and some things will fall through the cracks. You are talking to the side who joke about pedos and wood chippers. It sucks that happened, can we all just agree to execute people who assault children
>Yay pride month
So you have an issue with football cheerleading too right?
>Yes bad shit happens. There are over 300 million in this country and some things will fall through the cracks. You are talking to the side who joke about pedos and wood chippers. It sucks that happened, can we all just agree to execute people who assault children
No, you don't get to fucking avoid this.
Your *party* has put into law children being forced to give birth.
I don't give a fuck what kind of jokes idiots make. You people vote for s party that has LEGISLATED CHILDREN GIVING BIRTH.
I am not taking about the actions of individuals, I am talking about what you people vote for and get passed.
>What do you think No Restrictions means? Up to the point of birth. They are called late term abortion. https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortions-later-in-pregnancy-in-a-post-dobbs-era/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion Even if a child is deformed you don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient.
Claims of abortions occurring “moments before birth” or even “after birth” are false. These scenarios do not occur, nor are they legal in the United States
Your own fucking source refuses you. Are you illiterate or just fucking stupid?
This is why people dunk on conservatives. You literally just used a source that refutes your argument. You don't actually read anything.
They literally don't though. There are stories all the time about how Doctors are refusing to treat women because of the current laws.
The daily arrests of conservative pedophiles making news vs the zero drag queens makes it obvious you don't know wtf you are talking about.
>Reply: we don't, we just think life begins at or near conception so abortion is murder and because you made the choice that got you pregnant you can't kill the baby Down voted to hell, your sexism is showing, etc
That'd hold a lot more weight if red states weren't banning abortions with no rape, age or health exceptions.
Are you telling me the child that was denied an abortion consented to getting pregnant?
And before you try the predictable "we don't all agree with that" argument. You support that party.
Texas GOP had opposition for the teaching of critical thinking in its party platform, and it continued to get votes.
I'd love for you to try to find that study.
Because you're on my academic turf now, and I know damn well you're either lying or completely botching the results of that study.
I have been to political rallies and live in a conservative state, never met a nazi. Met 1 guy who was obsessed with Nazi tanks... I don't think that counts
That's because these people wouldn't know what a Nazi was if they drew a swastika on their forehead.
Anything moderately right of center is a Nazi here
It was kind of a joke, but I realized it could be considered trollish, basically if you have no bias the statement is neutral, but with bias, either a small right bias, or a giant left bias, it's offensive in some way. A hyperbolic left wing Internet person would insist the statement is false
Have you seen fury? The part of WWII that never ceases to amaze me is the massive amount of battles being independently fought on various fronts.. each with unique stories and backgrounds.
They were awesome, kinda, when they worked. The maintenance on them was super extensive causing them not to hold up well to rough conditions. Now the Shermans were not as good but could keep chugging along and we had a fuck ton of them. That's about all I know on that and that is 2nd hand
People in Europe do. We are on the brink of war and everybody talks about it daily. My family are in the British army and they have all been deployed to Poland ready for an invasion.
You (the Americans) will be dragged into the war and so will China.
So maybe you should start giving a shit about politics and replace the maniac Trump and decrepit Biden with someone competent, before it's too late. NATO needs America to be strong.
The only large scale deployment of British troops to Poland has been in operation Steadfast Defender, an exercise that ended in May.
Unless you have to have multiple family members in the 100 person missile defense deployment the UK has in Poland, I think you’re talking out your ass.
The chutzpah of you calling me a Russian while both siding Biden and Trump. We have two old men running for president. One of them openly calls for betraying NATO; one of them has been the most steadfast American proponent of NATO since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Biden has no lack of shortcomings, but if someone is a one issue NATO voter, their choice is clear.
I could tell you all of the dangerous world events that have unfolded; of which many are due to Bidens inaction. However, we'd be here all day.
I can't believe you are wheeling out Biden as some kind of credible leader, the guy is literally on life support.
Trump and Biden are both bad, you guys need to find someone good soon.
These things are true across the entire American political spectrum.
The only thing you're doing is pushing those who disagree with you to more extremes.
Politics is subjective kids. Remember that
Lmao, none of those things listed are "subjective"... Right-wingers like to pretend everything is up for debate, that way they can rationalize their disinformation/bigotry/anti-democratic policies / authoritarianism/ conspiracy theories /religious ideologies.
Pretending some things are not up for debate it antithetical to democracy.
Not being willing to have a discussion is also antithetical to democracy.
I myself subscribe to right wing politics (you can make assumptions based on that but its such a broad statement that it says literally nothing aboutmy values), I'm willing to have a constructive open minded conversation with anyone from anywhere on the political spectrum about anything.
That's what makes Western democracy so great
You need to take a long hard, unbiased look at the Republican party... from sources not acting as an adjunct to the party..
Just for starters, have a constructive openminded conversation about Project 2025, the blatant attempts by Trump &Co. To overturn a valid election with fake electors, and asking the Georgia governor to "find votes", the ridiculous levels of gerrymandering by Republican state legislatures, attempts by some states to outlaw the Democratic Party, blatant conservative SCOTUS corruption... etc etc etc
It's adorable that you assume because I'm right wing that I'm:
A. Republican
B. A Trump supporter and
B. Even American
None of these things are mutually exclusive but you're too busy making these assumptions about everything to think about it.
As for American politics I'm certainly aware of project 2025, I have good and bad things to say about it.
I'm not a fan of how Trump handled the 2020 election but American Democrats literally spent 4 years crying wolf on a "rigged election" and are literally trying to ban Donald Trump from running so this absolutely swings both ways.
And if you think Democrats wouldn't gerrymander districts too I've got a bridge to sell you.
Thanks for making my point.
No Democrat attempted to overturn the election... only to investigate interference, which was proven..
MANY Republicans attempted in MANY ways to overturn a free and fair election... first with 60 failed lawsuits, then with fake electors, and attempts to "find votes", then by trying to stop the certification process.. and finally by attempting an armed insurrection.. "both sides is beyond laughable"
You're clearly beyond reason or objectivity and just clinging to conservatism out of wilful ignorance.
It's adorable that you assume the only somewhat more veiled but otherwise not so different tactics of Pollievre somehow free you from such associations..
My country is actively run into the dirt by a liberal government in the pocket of hostile foreign powers being held hostage by NDP morons.
I like Pierre, but I would elect a goose to run this country. And given the current political state of this place, the goose (like Pierre) would win a landslide majority
Lol, you're such a rube, you just swallow and regurgitate wedge issue propaganda (much of it derived from the very "hostile foreign powers" you rail against..
Pollievre is a pos with a long history of being a pos but you're so blinded by your Trudeau hatred and I can all but guarantee it's because of one of 4 issues:
You're a gun enthusiast
You're a COVID denier
You're a climate change denier
You hate immigrants
All of which have been used to create wedge issues by rightwingers so they can get the CONS back in power to turn the tide back from more equitable wealth distribution and science/fact based governing... to serving the wealthy and christians at the expense of everything else.. just like Harper did the last time the rightwing propaganda won the day.
Just for starters:
Free and fair elections... Including equitable voting districts free of interference from those seeking power, access to voting, and ensuring confidence in the process..
Separation of church and state...
Checks and balances across the branches of government...
All things Republicans have been actively working to destroy in the US..
If things can't be debated, you are living in an authoritarian state.
Most of Reddit is run as an authoritarian state. Say the wrong thing, get banned.
overall , yes, but at the same time, It seems like any time I post anything liberal sounding, I end up getting downvoted heavily and the conservatives come out of the woodwork to argue with me, so idk. think it just depends on what thread you're in
It depends on the sub. Most of the subs I read are left leaning because of the mods. Some are laughably left leaning. The Britain sub has bots that post stupid insults about the Royal family and 95% of the threads are about Palestine. It's so far left it's literally a meme. People go there to deliberately get banned. It's a sport.
I think the only unbiased sub I've ever found is 2westerneurope4u. It's a banter sub that makes fun of European stereotypes. Despite its lively subject matter, it has managed to find a common ground for not only left and right voices, but multiple countries and cultures.
It's a model example of how productive a sub can be when it isn't moderated as an echo chamber.
The problem you are dealing with is that politics in the US at least have steadily moved right in the overton window over the last twenty years, and now only 32% even identify as Republican, much less the common extreme right wing ideology that is the dominant conservative thought today.
Compared to the MAGA movement, 75% of the US population is "liberal" in the commonly used sense of "not-maga-conservative", which represents a mix of progessives, actual liberals, moderates of all stripes, independents, non-partisan people who split viewpoints, such las libertarian socially liberal/fiscal conservative viewpoint, RHINOs, neocons, etc.
Given this, naturally you will find in any non-political random mix of people to lean to the left comparatively speaking.
This reply shows the bias on reddit. Over the last 20 years the window has shifted to the left, drastically. The abortion fight went from safe, legal, and rare to on demand, tax payer funded. Gay marriage is a thing now. Communists aren't shunned or shamed. You can have your own children taken away for not allowing them to medically alter their genitals in some states.
The only way the country has shifted right is more states allow concealed carry.
Abortion went from stare decisis part of every day life medical care since 1973 to effectively banned in 28 states in 2024. How on earth would you possibly consider this a leftward shift?!?
This is an enormous shift right and took two decades of shifting political though for it to be even considered possibly, much leass feasible. The window shifted right in the last two decades after three decades of beng static prior to that. It has not shifted "left" on abortion in over fifty years.
Gay marriage has been static for a decade after being legalized in 2015. While there is increasing homophobic pressure in the far right, there has been no action other than overturning Roe V Wade that would affect it. While it was moving left prior to that, it would be extremely disingenuous to declare that without acknowledging a decade of no movement.
Communists are shamed and shunned by the right just as much as they always have been for decades. The rest of us do not care, as we have not for decades. There has been no movement in this for more than fifty years.
The trangender issue is neither moving right nor left. Instead it is polarizing with people that used to be in the middle now moving right or left respectively. It is moving to extremes rather than moving right or left.
However, the window has moved strongly to the right when comparing the DNC national platform to two decades ago, and doing the same to the Republican equivalent to a platform, as well as looking at other sources such as Project 2025. For example, look at the campaign promises of Ronald Reagan, Elder Bush and Younger Bush compared to those of Donald Trump. At the same time, compare the same promises of Hilary Clinton versus Bill Clinton. With a few exceptions, everybody has moved right on almost all issues.
People who claim the window has moved left are either projecting, or are victims of propaganda.
I’m not American but in this particular part or the thread I personally don’t think in making a case for current conservatism, that person is doing it any favours. One viewpoint and opinions here are thoughtful and considered, the other is a bit hysterical and concerned that people are allowed to hold different beliefs and lifestyles even though it doesn’t harm anyone. It could be said that abortion harms of course, but in comparison to the suffering of those capable of thought and emotion, having their reproductive human rights tampered with doesn’t compare. The argument about having one’s children taken away was an incredibly specific one.) Feeling threatened by a married couple who are gay but not that they may be carrying a gun is baffling to me.
>The abortion fight went from safe, legal, and rare to on demand, tax payer funded.
Factually incorrect. Federal dollars were always prohibited.
I do also like that you've glossed over the fact that in the past 5 years abortion had gone from safe and legal to outlawed in a giant chunk of the country. That is absolutely moving right.
>You can have your own children taken away for not allowing them to medically alter their genitals in some states.
The APA does not "medically alter genitals" in children.
Cite me the state laws that are taking children away if the parents don't allow transitioning.
Also In the context of the window moving right, states are banning trans care for both children and adults. That is moving right.
>The only way the country has shifted right is more states allow concealed carry.
Supreme Court has overturned both DC and NYs bans and expanded access. So, again, shifting right.
>. Communists aren't shunned or shamed.
So wait, your actual claim here is that moving left means allowing people to have opinions you don't like lmao? The right alternative is thought police? Really telling on yourself.
Society is constantly changing and evolving. People on the "left" simply adapt. If there's been any shift it's the GOP moving further right. Republicans these days think that right of center corporatists like Joe Biden and Mitt Romney are far left communists ffs.
Reality is pretty biased against conservatives because most - not all - but most of their opinions are based on conspiracy theories and obvious propaganda that can be debunked with a 30 second web search.
If your entire belief system requires to you insist that historians, doctors, scientists, lawyers and judges are all conspiring together to gaslight you but the guy who was impeached twice and convicted of 34 felonies is the only one telling the truth you need to address your tenuous grasp on reality.
I know not all conservatives are this delusional, but on social media it's the dumbest and craziest people who shout the loudest and they deserve to be mocked for their stupid opinions.
Reddit is a place where people exchange information and ideas. Most people on here are open minded and capable of doing basic internet research, so they're less likely to fall for these absurd talking points that conservative media is constantly churning out these days because they don't hold up to any scrutiny.
Maybe if conservatives didn't constantly argue in bad faith and refuse to change their minds when corrected, more people would take them seriously on Reddit.
Yeah, but it seems to be a bias towards extreme. The left and right positions around this site are extreme and kinda ignores most people in the real world are centrists.
Yes they can. For example, when Fox News was attempting to defend themselves in court they legally argued that they were an entertainment channel and not a news channel, therefore they have no obligation to be factually correct.
I know this is slightly different than merely being wrong, but it certainly is adjacent and quite relevant to the subject.
Leaving aside right or left political bias for the moment, Fox is the posterchild for when politics and media go bad. From the multiple lawsuits where they successfully argued they do not need to be factual to the Dominion defantion lawsuit, Fox is the #1 exgregious example for being wrong.
It's pretty much the dictionary definition and should be expected to be discussed in any discussion of media bias, with the distinction between bias and disinformation being a close second place topic.
Some ways to deal with these two points being invitably being raised include:
1) Address it in your initial post
2) Acknowledge it in your initial post, coupled with stating it is not part of the discussion in the thread.
3) Be willing to discuss it in good faith
4) Not be willing to discuss it in good faith and suffer downvotes/blocking that usually follow.
If the most watched conservative news source is claiming in court that they are not a news organization do you not think that says something about the state of conservatism in the US?
- Wow, that is just a very frustrating statement. Yes, there are decent people in this world. However, people have all sorts of ideals, and that does not make them more or less decent.
- Decent, good, honest people are simply that regardless of their political viewpoints. Gosh, what a shit-manipulating comment.
When you say "conservatives", you mean "Trump supporters", don't you?
I find that Americans often have no grasp of how truly abnormal the Trump movement is. It's not a normal conservative movement. A normal conservative is Joe Scarborough. The Trump movement is something else entirely: it's an attempt to perform a hostile takeover of a democratic society and remake it in the image of one man.
And?
Why deflect. You tried to claim Obama was more dictatorial than trump and were wrong.
FDR was granted broad powers In wartime.
But executive orders aren't really relevant to fascism. Because fascism isn't simply authoritarian, and executive orders are a legal method of creating policy in a democracy.
No president in US history is even close to a fascist. It’s stupid to think otherwise. It’s become a buzzword. “Everyone whose opinion differs from my is a fascist, racist, something phobe.”
No, fascism has a definition.
It is a right wing, nationalistic, militaristic, authoritarian political ideology/government.
Trump wanted a military parade. That's the kind of shit dictators do. Think about the way he talks, he was always threatening to use the military for something or other. His entire personality was projecting strength.
Trump is absolutely nationalistic, he literally called himself a nationalist. You literally cannot deny that.
""I'd be a dictator for a day"
The man literally just said on television that hell prosecute his rivals for revenge lol. Literally used the word revenge.
The man tried to push a conspiracy that the elections were stolen and lost hundreds of court cases on the matter. Attempting to overturn a fucking election with a conspiracy is absolutely authoritarian.
I'm not saying he's fucking Mussolini but he's absolutely fascistic.
I think people like you tend to not know what the definition of fascism is, and simply associate it with Nazis.
>fascist, racist, something phobe.”
Republicans tried, and continue to try to overturn gay marriage. Thomas openly signaled his willingness to re address gay marriage.
The Texas AG said he is willing to enforce anti gay sodomy laws if the supreme Court allows it.
Yes, I do think anyone that supports a party that elects that man is in fact homophobic.
Within my lifetime Texas fucking arrested a man for the crime of being gay. You're godamn fucking right I'll call republicans homophobic for continuing to support politicians that would criminalize people for being gay.
FDR also was trying to push forward the most ambitious reform package in American history past a legislature and supreme court which opposed him. If he had not taken those measures, there’s a pretty good likelihood that the US would have done what the Russians did in 1917.
Does that make him more “authoritarian” than a president less inclined to use the powers their office grants them? Yeah. Is it justified? That’s the matter up fir debate.
lol. Ok so let’s use the example of mishandling classified documents. Trump gets raided and is going through the prosecution process. Biden did the same thing, however he wasn’t president and didn’t have the right to keep his documents and when investigated it was determined that he wouldn’t be prosecuted because he was a well intentioned old mad with a bad memory.
When Clinton had computers and phones subpoenaed and she had them destroyed, not just discarded, but destroyed intentionally to avoid searches, and then the director of the FBI goes on TV and says she did it all and it was intentional but he wouldn’t prosecute because she was a major candidate for president so they wouldn’t want to influence the election.
Double standards that only work in one direction is not a good sign, don’t you think?
Trump refused to give the papers back. Hence why he got raided. He actively lied to his lawyers and told them he had returned them all while having people move them. Not comparable at all.
It’s compatible completely. You can make the argument that Trump declassified them. There is no process for declassification. Any president can just point and say “declassified”. As VP Biden didn’t have that ability. So whether Trump wouldn’t give them back is irrelevant when you consider that Biden doesn’t even have an arguable defense.
Consider they were just sitting in his garage where Hunter and others would frequently have access. Consider that the special counsel did say it was bot legal for Biden to have them. But BECAUSE he was old (now) and his memory is failing him (now) they won’t prosecute.
Is Trump able to just say “I’m a confused old man” and that’s a defense?
If not, why not?
Here’s the problem, you’re ok with the double standards because your supported party is currently benefitting. That’s just as dangerous.
He's also utterly ignorant of the fact that the presidential records act doesn't give a fuck if he declassified them. They're still public property he's not allowed to keep.
>Any president can just point and say “declassified”.
Nope. There's a process for that, and some documents cannot be declassified.
Furthermore, declassification doesn't mean he doesn't have to return them.
>Is Trump able to just say “I’m a confused old man” and that’s a defense?
If he had returned the documents when asked, yes. You keep lying and pretending that the issue was having the document, and not the actual issue of him refusing to return them.
>As VP Biden didn’t have that ability. So whether Trump wouldn’t give them back is irrelevant when you consider that Biden doesn’t even have an arguable defense.
You're doing it again.
The crime was not having the documents. It was not returning them. Declassification doesn't actually matter,
The presidential records act states that the documents are public property, declassified or not.
He refused to return them.
The fact that you're arguing about classification shows that you literally don't know what the charges are, because you're not honest enough to actually read them.
>Ok so let’s use the example of mishandling classified documents. Trump gets raided and is going through the prosecution process. Biden did the same thing, however he wasn’t president and didn’t have the right to keep his documents and when investigated it was determined that he wouldn’t be prosecuted because he was a well intentioned old mad with a bad memory.
Care to explain to me why you seem to have left out the part where Biden immediately complied and returned them when asked. Meanwhile trump refused multiple requests for them to be returned.
Pence also had documents, and returned them without argument. He was not charged.
What double standard exactly? Or does your argument fall apart when you're actually honest about the circumstances.
The law states that possession of classified documents is a crime. It doesn't state that if you give them back when asked, then its no longer a crime. They draw this distinction now because it allows them to prosecute Trump but no one else. But it is a crime in black and white just to possess the documents and others have been prosecuted for it.
Biden, Clinton, Pence, Trump all violated the law. Trump was prosecuted.
>Biden, Clinton, Pence, Trump all violated the law. Trump was prosecuted
Trump was not raised and prosecuted until he refused multiple demands to return them. You guys keep doing this thing where you lie about the circumstances and pretend they're the same.
The law states that intentionally taking them is illegal. This is not something that is normally prosecuted if complied with.
Also by the way, cite me the law. If you're gonna make claims back it up.
It seems like most of the reddits just say they don't want to talk about politics. So I just avoid politics altogether. We can't read their mind related to how much is too much?
It's just something that is taking place across the whole internet. It's the individual people doing it and they set up their guidelines of what they want. What they want what they want to talk about and they just expect other people to understand what they're talking about. And when they don't understand what they're talking about. Then they want to just be heavy. Handed on the moderation button just to kick people out of groups. The same thing is taking place on YouTube and they just want to kick people off of their livestream video channels. How in the world are we supposed to read their mind to know what they want?
It gets very frustrating.
It's not that hsrd to figure out why.
When you spend your life alone in your room or your basement and dont get out in the world then your views reflect the voices of the loudest people talking and thats usually liberals or leftists.
Now it time to be downvoted into oblivion! lol
The way to gain power for ur side is to trash the other side... Reddit is full of younger people... Younger people lean left...
To "gain political power"... Reddit shits on Conservatives...
I’ll often see anything shitting on ~~conservatives~~ *Lying cultists* be upvoted into oblivion and I almost never see anything in support of ~~conservatives~~ *Lying cultists* on any of the front page subs like [](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/).
The President, all of Congress, and all of the Senate is filled with conservatives from both the Democratic Party and The Republican Party. Out of the hundreds of seats, the left has two people - Bernie Sanders and AOC and yet you are claiming that conservatives are being persecuted. Conservatives cry and throw a fit even when they are winning 
Conservatives do not claim any of the democrats in Congress or Joe Biden. You are changing definitions to try to make it seem like you are not wrong. When you are so far left, everyone seems like a conservative to you.
Not sure if its purely political
But the wannabe woke seems to be off the charts
Also the cowards don't usually post
They just downvote in masturbatory silence.
Mostly heavily left, you can try to defend any slightly right wing idea or defend it on seemingly neutral (based on description) sub, and you would get permabaned, usually on whole chain of subs too
I don't know how anybody can be a Democrat after the last 4 years, but I know they watch news owned by the financial elites pushing their agenda.
In the end, those who print the money will get their way. They always do. Big changes are coming.
Good Question, look I am not into politics, I do not vote, I am not even American but given we are essentially conservative about some things and liberal about other things. I do not know about Reddit, but on other platforms it certainly feels like bias do play a part and not only on the political side. I can be any topic (i.e. religion).
So, if you are say in the US, with the upcoming election, you will get the most volatile situations and hostility, but I do not blame it on Reddit, after all, what makes Reddit different is the fact that it might be the only platform left as massive as it is which have a less toxic environment. I heard far worse about other social media platforms and perhaps those using other platforms can provide clarity since I do not make use of them.
Again, not a US Citizen but here, man did people have a go at each other online.
Most of the UK subs outright ban you if you show any conservative views. It's the same in the European subs.
I believe this is partly fuelling the rise of the far right in the EU.
Being cancelled on Reddit mirrors and amplifies their frustration with mainstream center left politicians ignoring their concerns.
Nobody likes being censored. When they feel censored, they vote far right out of frustration.
This is not the same as Trump being a meme and saying stupid things about Mexico, this is deep routed far right ideology spreading amongst the youth in Europe.
We have a serious problem, and it's going to cause a war.
Yea, there was a topic about Trump in Vegas. There was a question asked and I answered it along with a snoops like.
I got a notification that someone responded. Tried to go back and it said "this sub forum is private".
No point in having a discussion when you can't have one.
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yes. depends on what sub you are in though. The nature of subreddits generally means one side will dominate the content posted there.
I have a very stupid question but I’ll regret not asking it more than I’ll regret asking it. What about right-leaning subreddits such as r/conservative? There are even some religious subreddits here that are more left-leaning, so does that make the right-leaning ones more left-leaning than, say, Twitter/X or is it just as right-leaning so as to act as a sort of counterbalance?
Not stupid at all! That is actually a good example of what I mean. Reddit is a big place and there are spaces for basically everyone. There are left leaning subs, there are communist subs, there are right leaning subs and there are far right fascist subs. The nature of subreddits means there's not too much spillover from communities as non default subs tend to keep to themselves. Twitter isn't split up like Reddit is, so Twitter feels much more consistent in it's bias. Here on Reddit every community has their own bias.
Be careful! I unwittingly posted an innocuous, neutral reply on r/conservative (didn’t notice the anathema subreddit), and three left-leaning subreddits automatically and permanently banned me just for commenting on it. Within minutes, I had three confrontative, combative notices. My feeling: Well EXCUSE ME!” There are some pretty heavy handed, cancel-culture, rabid mods out there who stalk these conservative subreddits for the sheer joy of pouncing on the prey. Be forewarned.
The right-leaning subreddits are in fact right-leaning if that answers your question. But the fact of being on Reddit alone makes them pretty vulnerable. They’re heavily moderated because of left-wing trolls and posts still get downvoted by left wing Redditors. This can happen on left wing subs as well, but like all things on the internet, it’s a numbers game and Reddit/social media is not popular to conservatives. So a post with similar content but a right wing take on a sub such as r/conservative may get 50upvotes. But if you post it to r/politics with a left wing take it will get >2000upvotes. And kiss your Reddit karma goodbye if you reveal yourself as conservative on r/politics or r/presidents or any other “neutral” sub.
It does not help that many conservatives are just assholes. They talk about freedom and the ability to make your own choices but they want everybody else to conform or be gone. They didn't like gays or trans or immigrant people, or even other religions. They are very big hypocrites.
That’s a huge generalization. There are conservatives that exist that are bigoted but it’s a small minority. And liberals have their own bigoted minority as well.
Just because someone is nice to the people around them and have a smile does not mean they are not assholes. If they support conservative policies like getting Christianity back in government but thinking all other religions should be out then they are assholes. Same with gay people or trans people. They should be allowed to exist without assholes attacking them. Plus far right terrorism is the biggest threat in America. Conservative people like to claim to be nice while they support people who are not. They like to distance themselves so they pretend that it is other people who do these things while supporting a party that supports hating people who are different from them. Plus conservatives are literal hypocrites 8 years ago they were going off about how it would be completely unacceptable for a person who is under indictment to be elected president, but today they are okay with it 8 years ago they said it's completely wrong for Obama to install a supreme Court Justice when he has less than a year left in his presidency, but then 4 years later, they pushed through a supreme Court Justice with less than 30 days of Trump's presidency left. They will literally say anything that fits the situation at the time and completely change their perspective if it fits them better later. They don't believe in anything except hate
Of course there are biased people here. I don’t believe that the platform is biased.
Obviously.
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You just proved the point even further of the leftwing bias reddit has. Congrats on the brainwash or you're just a bot.
That's just bias that all intelligent Americans have. Republicans act like they can't read so we can't do anything but assume they can't read.
Imagine every time you say something stupid, you get called out on it, so you say that the entire system is against you. Are you winning yet? Did you own the libs?
No, more like there's a set agenda, particularly on reddit. Where's all the Russian bots that are making the right wing narrative? Exactly. You're a literal brainwashed moron.
Well said.
Absolutely, Reddit has always leaned left (with some exceptions) but changes made since 2016 (entirely arbitrary date, no reason for picking that) have essentially turned half of it into an insane echo chamber.
Reddit is definitely hard left.
It’s true. Anyone can post on Reddit, so it ends up looking more like the popular vote than the electoral vote.
Reddit is one of the most censored sites, and this contributes to people only seeing one point of view even if the majority of people in real life disagree with that
Yes and you don't have to be in the subs that are political based to see it. All you have to do is have a view opposite of masses and you'll find out real quick.
On reddit most of the bias leans pretty far left. Here is what I have personally seen Post: why do conservatives hate women? Reply: we don't, we just think life begins at or near conception so abortion is murder and because you made the choice that got you pregnant you can't kill the baby Down voted to hell, your sexism is showing, etc Post: why is homophobia a thing Reply: brain scan studies show that straight men react the same way to seeing gay sex as they do to seeing rotting meat Comments: well that's learn behavior, you are just covering your bigotry Reply: posts study, highlighting part that says its all straight men even the ones who say it doesn't bother them My favorite Post: what do conservatives think about x Reply: as a conservative... Comments: hey guys, we found the conservative (Obviously)
What about wanting to turn America into a Christian country? This was supposed to be a country of religious freedom. The first sentence of the first amendment says .. >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof NO LAWS RESPECTING The separation of church and state should be enforced.
It was founded and functions on Christian values. What that means is "In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled in Lemon v. Kurtzman that an action is considered an establishment if it: Lacks a secular purpose, Promotes or hinders religion as its primary effect, and Fosters excessive government involvement with religion. "
America was founded by people looking for religious freedom. And now conservatives want to take that religious freedom away from others. I know you guys are very good at having somebody tell you which laws to bring up in which situations, but basically you are repeating things that somebody else has told you and that you don't really understand. (You personally might be a lawyer but most people that spout that kind of s*** are not) But I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong. >The Establishment Clause acts as a double security, prohibiting both control of the government by religion and political control of religion by the government.By it, the federal government of the United States and, by later extension, the governments of all U.S. states and U.S. territories, are prohibited from establishing or sponsoring religion. This seems pretty clear to me Religion has no place in government, and government has no place in religion.
I didn't say religion had a place in politics. Or that I want to ban other religions. There is nothing in the Supreme Court ruling that says religious morality can't influence laws
Christian morality https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/southwest/texas-pastor-stealing-churches/amp/
"religious morality" lol, no such thing any more. Like hating immigrants? >The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 19:34 >You have heard that it was said, ‘you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy’. But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you. Matthew 5:43-44 Or how about the overlap between Christians and gun owners >Matt. 5 Verses 38 to 48 [38] Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: [39] But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Looks like you should not ever need a gun if you were turning the other cheek. Or how about abortion with the Bible did not say anything about? Is this a man made religious belief? How about not eating pork How about the fact that God wants you to love him with a sadomasochists basis... You must worship him if you have heard of him and if you don't you will spend eternity in hell, but he loves you. So he loves you and will torture you? That's just fucked up, is this the morality you are taking about?
Great 4th grade understanding of the Bible. I don't have enough crayons and construction paper to give you a basic theology lesson but what you threw out is less understanding than my 10 year old but more than my 7 year old.
No I grew up in a very religious home, when I was young my parents moved our family away for a year to go and live at a Bible school. I know a lot about Christians. I am sorry you are blinded. Most of the people who call themselves Christian do not behave like it. Some do and they would stay far away from the hateful politics of the right. But most use the Bible to justify their hate of others. Ask yourself what happened to the Jesus who cared and loved everybody? Because that is not the Republican Jesus.
They went right to calling you a child lol. To be fair I think Christians hand wave the Old Testament and say Jesus freed everyone or something.
I said he had a childlike understanding. He is at the coloring book stage of learning. This is the basic Hippie Jesus line of thinking. If someone asks what would Jesus do? Flipping over tables and beating people with a whip is acceptable. So is insulting pretentious people. So is having stipulations on who receives charity. It's also important for a man to be armed, biblically.
I like that "Religion has no place in government, and government has no place in religion." Let's not forget that the government have no place in telling people how to arm themselves. Let's get rid of all gun laws and the NFA. I feel you, blud 👌
I don't remember anything in the Constitution saying you have unlimited rights to any weapon you want. Where is the clause that says you have the right to nuclear weapons? Do you seriously think people should be able to buy bombs big enough to work out a city at a bomb store? How long until someone gets mad and blows up the whole town? Unlimited arms for everybody is a horrible idea
It says arms, and nuclear weapons are arms. Are they not? Also, I guess the constitution only counts when you nic-pic out of it. Right?! And it also applies to what you deem it should. So, the government can't regulate speech or religion, but... BUT you think, from my assumption, they should regulate arms? You contradict yourself. FYI, if bad people wanted to get bombs, nukes, illegal arms, they'll do it anyways. Without anyone's approval. Of course they have to be loaded with cash.
One would have to Ignore the whole first half of the second amendment to have that belief. And to top it off your argument that because people can do something illegally it should be legal is ridiculously flawed. But nobody has ever accused conservatives of being smart, so I guess you are in good company.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. No one ignores any part of the 2nd amendment. Neither do you, but it seems you're misinterpreting it... The people, you, I, your community, my community, are the militia. That's if they are fit and willing, hence well regulated. It is up to people like us to necessarily create a free state by defending it against tyrannical rule or foreign invasion. You may hate hearing that, but hey, you have free will to do as you please. So, my question is: If they make a law where only a certain type of religion is permitted, or certain speech is banned, will you comply with those laws? And why? Before you get on about how the 1st and 2nd are different rights, guess what, they aren't different, friend. You remove one, other's are susceptible to the same fate, especially if everyone is ok with it. Bless your soul and have a great day.
You are delusional The nra removed the first half at their headquarters because they want to pretend it does not exist Militia - a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency. And you all are anything but well regulated. You don't even care about kids being shot in schools, how the fuck is that well regulated. The fact that you think gun owners are fit might be the funniest part, most of them are more like gravy seals. They probably have a hard time waking to the mail box. The fact is, that amendment was written before America has a standing army. It was necessary to defend our country from invaders. We now have the largest military in the world and needing a militia is out dated. Plus the whole concept of bearing arms means to fight in a war. There is a quote that goes something like "a man can carry a gun his whole life for hunting and he is never says to have born arms" Look I understand that guns are fun and make you feel powerful, that's why so many stupid people what to own them. I am on with hunting rifles and handguns but everything else is bad for society. Especially when wielded by traitors who hate America. And the fact that you think your guns will protect you from the US military might be the dumbest most ignorant thought ever. They can drive a tank through your house, they can bomb you from a drone so high you can't see it. You might as well be shooting at the waves in the ocean. Besides most of the fun lunatics don't give a fuck about rights. Or else they would care about the right of kids to keep breathing.
More than that, any questions I've seen that start "why do conservatives..." Is almost exclusively answered by people npwho aren't and aren't trying to be objective. It's not "they believe this because of this" and more "thry hate women" even though that obviously isn't what the OP is looking for.
You know not all women made the choice that got them pregnant right?
I haven't heard of legislation yet that doesn't have an exception for that
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/dashboard/exceptions-in-state-abortion-bans-and-early-gestational-limits/ Plenty of states with no health or rape exemption. Care to explain?
Thats not my idea of what should be done but better than elective murder being legal
So again, you openly support a party that will make rape victims, fucking children, and people at risk of death give birth. And you wonder why conservatives get a bad rap? There can be an honest debate about when a fetus has an actual functional brain or consciousness, but immediately writing it off as murder is dishonest. And again, you wonder why conservatives get a bad rap in public discourse.
They all have exceptions for life of the mother. You support a party that is in favor of abortion up to the point of birth and possibly after You support a party that rioted when a rapist got shot while trying to stab a cop You support a party that lets adults expose themselves to children and you call it brave I can play that game too
Nope. Literally provided you evidence otherwise. >You support a party that is in favor of abortion up to the point of birth Cite it. Common statement with zero evidence. >and possibly Absolutely fucking not lmao. Cite me a single case of this being attempted or put into law. >You support a party that rioted when a rapist got shot while trying to stab a cop Yup not what happened. And utterly irrelevant to the conversation. Do try to keep on topic. Also, show me where the Democratic party in any tangible way supported riots. I showed you an actual case of your party forcing a fucking child to give birth. >You support a party that lets adults expose themselves to children and you call it brave Yeah again, not what's happening. You really like to regurgitate talking points with no actual evidence eh? Shoe me any child being exposed to adults, and any laws attempting to make it legal. >I can play that game too No you see the difference is. I provided actual information about the *laws* that your party is passing. You regurgitated internet talking points with no actual reality to them. I mean I'm still waiting for you to show me your magical non existent brain study on reactions to homosexuality. You wonder why conservatives get a bad rap in public discourse and then you continue to just regurgitate fear mongering internet talking points with no basis in reality. I provided you an actual fucking raped child that was forced to give birth because of your political ideology. Provide me actual cases of what you claim.
What do you think No Restrictions means? Up to the point of birth. They are called late term abortion. https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortions-later-in-pregnancy-in-a-post-dobbs-era/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion Even if a child is deformed you don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient. Yay pride month https://www.newsweek.com/video-man-twerking-pride-children-minneapolis-1809182 Yes bad shit happens. There are over 300 million in this country and some things will fall through the cracks. You are talking to the side who joke about pedos and wood chippers. It sucks that happened, can we all just agree to execute people who assault children
>Yay pride month So you have an issue with football cheerleading too right? >Yes bad shit happens. There are over 300 million in this country and some things will fall through the cracks. You are talking to the side who joke about pedos and wood chippers. It sucks that happened, can we all just agree to execute people who assault children No, you don't get to fucking avoid this. Your *party* has put into law children being forced to give birth. I don't give a fuck what kind of jokes idiots make. You people vote for s party that has LEGISLATED CHILDREN GIVING BIRTH. I am not taking about the actions of individuals, I am talking about what you people vote for and get passed. >What do you think No Restrictions means? Up to the point of birth. They are called late term abortion. https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortions-later-in-pregnancy-in-a-post-dobbs-era/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion Even if a child is deformed you don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient. Claims of abortions occurring “moments before birth” or even “after birth” are false. These scenarios do not occur, nor are they legal in the United States Your own fucking source refuses you. Are you illiterate or just fucking stupid? This is why people dunk on conservatives. You literally just used a source that refutes your argument. You don't actually read anything.
They literally don't though. There are stories all the time about how Doctors are refusing to treat women because of the current laws. The daily arrests of conservative pedophiles making news vs the zero drag queens makes it obvious you don't know wtf you are talking about.
https://www.newsweek.com/video-man-twerking-pride-children-minneapolis-1809182
[https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-texas-pastors-charged-abusing-children-1765910](https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-texas-pastors-charged-abusing-children-1765910) [https://i.imgur.com/TB3pO9r.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TB3pO9r.jpg) [https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/former-round-rock-pastor-pleads-guilty-child-pornography-charges/](https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/former-round-rock-pastor-pleads-guilty-child-pornography-charges/) [**https://i.imgur.com/R0J6rnR.jpg**](https://i.imgur.com/R0J6rnR.jpg) [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/religion/nearly-1-700-priests-clergy-accused-sex-abuse-are-unsupervised-n1062396](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/religion/nearly-1-700-priests-clergy-accused-sex-abuse-are-unsupervised-n1062396) [https://www.ranker.com/list/christian-priests-convicted-for-sexual-abuse/robert-wabash](https://www.ranker.com/list/christian-priests-convicted-for-sexual-abuse/robert-wabash) [https://mersonlaw.com/catholic-diocese-clergy-priest-sex-abuse-list/](https://mersonlaw.com/catholic-diocese-clergy-priest-sex-abuse-list/) [https://www.joemygod.com/category/crime/](https://www.joemygod.com/category/crime/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/WelcomeToGilead/s/Xyq7gNMc2Z
>Reply: we don't, we just think life begins at or near conception so abortion is murder and because you made the choice that got you pregnant you can't kill the baby Down voted to hell, your sexism is showing, etc That'd hold a lot more weight if red states weren't banning abortions with no rape, age or health exceptions. Are you telling me the child that was denied an abortion consented to getting pregnant? And before you try the predictable "we don't all agree with that" argument. You support that party. Texas GOP had opposition for the teaching of critical thinking in its party platform, and it continued to get votes. I'd love for you to try to find that study. Because you're on my academic turf now, and I know damn well you're either lying or completely botching the results of that study.
Not all conservatives are Nazis
I have been to political rallies and live in a conservative state, never met a nazi. Met 1 guy who was obsessed with Nazi tanks... I don't think that counts
That's because these people wouldn't know what a Nazi was if they drew a swastika on their forehead. Anything moderately right of center is a Nazi here
It was kind of a joke, but I realized it could be considered trollish, basically if you have no bias the statement is neutral, but with bias, either a small right bias, or a giant left bias, it's offensive in some way. A hyperbolic left wing Internet person would insist the statement is false
I've been called a Nazi multiple times on here. My mixed race children were crushed to find out
I found it funny because it implies that while most conservatives are Nazis, some aren't.
Have you seen fury? The part of WWII that never ceases to amaze me is the massive amount of battles being independently fought on various fronts.. each with unique stories and backgrounds.
Didn't they have the best tanks or something? Iirc they just couldn't pump them out fast enough.
They were awesome, kinda, when they worked. The maintenance on them was super extensive causing them not to hold up well to rough conditions. Now the Shermans were not as good but could keep chugging along and we had a fuck ton of them. That's about all I know on that and that is 2nd hand
But all Nazis are conservative
The biggest bias on Reddit is towards having political opinions. Most people in the offline world just don’t give a shit.
People in Europe do. We are on the brink of war and everybody talks about it daily. My family are in the British army and they have all been deployed to Poland ready for an invasion. You (the Americans) will be dragged into the war and so will China. So maybe you should start giving a shit about politics and replace the maniac Trump and decrepit Biden with someone competent, before it's too late. NATO needs America to be strong.
The only large scale deployment of British troops to Poland has been in operation Steadfast Defender, an exercise that ended in May. Unless you have to have multiple family members in the 100 person missile defense deployment the UK has in Poland, I think you’re talking out your ass.
Nice try, Russian. Do you honestly think I'm going to Doxx the army by discussing actual troop deployments on a public forum.
The chutzpah of you calling me a Russian while both siding Biden and Trump. We have two old men running for president. One of them openly calls for betraying NATO; one of them has been the most steadfast American proponent of NATO since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Biden has no lack of shortcomings, but if someone is a one issue NATO voter, their choice is clear.
I could tell you all of the dangerous world events that have unfolded; of which many are due to Bidens inaction. However, we'd be here all day. I can't believe you are wheeling out Biden as some kind of credible leader, the guy is literally on life support. Trump and Biden are both bad, you guys need to find someone good soon.
I think we just like science and facts.
Not to mention, logic, equality, democracy, human rights...
These things are true across the entire American political spectrum. The only thing you're doing is pushing those who disagree with you to more extremes. Politics is subjective kids. Remember that
Lmao, none of those things listed are "subjective"... Right-wingers like to pretend everything is up for debate, that way they can rationalize their disinformation/bigotry/anti-democratic policies / authoritarianism/ conspiracy theories /religious ideologies.
Pretending some things are not up for debate it antithetical to democracy. Not being willing to have a discussion is also antithetical to democracy. I myself subscribe to right wing politics (you can make assumptions based on that but its such a broad statement that it says literally nothing aboutmy values), I'm willing to have a constructive open minded conversation with anyone from anywhere on the political spectrum about anything. That's what makes Western democracy so great
You need to take a long hard, unbiased look at the Republican party... from sources not acting as an adjunct to the party.. Just for starters, have a constructive openminded conversation about Project 2025, the blatant attempts by Trump &Co. To overturn a valid election with fake electors, and asking the Georgia governor to "find votes", the ridiculous levels of gerrymandering by Republican state legislatures, attempts by some states to outlaw the Democratic Party, blatant conservative SCOTUS corruption... etc etc etc
It's adorable that you assume because I'm right wing that I'm: A. Republican B. A Trump supporter and B. Even American None of these things are mutually exclusive but you're too busy making these assumptions about everything to think about it. As for American politics I'm certainly aware of project 2025, I have good and bad things to say about it. I'm not a fan of how Trump handled the 2020 election but American Democrats literally spent 4 years crying wolf on a "rigged election" and are literally trying to ban Donald Trump from running so this absolutely swings both ways. And if you think Democrats wouldn't gerrymander districts too I've got a bridge to sell you.
Thanks for making my point. No Democrat attempted to overturn the election... only to investigate interference, which was proven.. MANY Republicans attempted in MANY ways to overturn a free and fair election... first with 60 failed lawsuits, then with fake electors, and attempts to "find votes", then by trying to stop the certification process.. and finally by attempting an armed insurrection.. "both sides is beyond laughable" You're clearly beyond reason or objectivity and just clinging to conservatism out of wilful ignorance.
It's adorable that you assume the only somewhat more veiled but otherwise not so different tactics of Pollievre somehow free you from such associations..
My country is actively run into the dirt by a liberal government in the pocket of hostile foreign powers being held hostage by NDP morons. I like Pierre, but I would elect a goose to run this country. And given the current political state of this place, the goose (like Pierre) would win a landslide majority
Lol, you're such a rube, you just swallow and regurgitate wedge issue propaganda (much of it derived from the very "hostile foreign powers" you rail against.. Pollievre is a pos with a long history of being a pos but you're so blinded by your Trudeau hatred and I can all but guarantee it's because of one of 4 issues: You're a gun enthusiast You're a COVID denier You're a climate change denier You hate immigrants All of which have been used to create wedge issues by rightwingers so they can get the CONS back in power to turn the tide back from more equitable wealth distribution and science/fact based governing... to serving the wealthy and christians at the expense of everything else.. just like Harper did the last time the rightwing propaganda won the day.
How can you PROVE democracy? What does that even mean? If you can’t prove something, it’s subjective.
Just for starters: Free and fair elections... Including equitable voting districts free of interference from those seeking power, access to voting, and ensuring confidence in the process.. Separation of church and state... Checks and balances across the branches of government... All things Republicans have been actively working to destroy in the US..
If things can't be debated, you are living in an authoritarian state. Most of Reddit is run as an authoritarian state. Say the wrong thing, get banned.
Intolerance for the intolerant is the only acceptable kind.
But who gets to decide what is and isn't tolerated? Dangerous path.
Intolerance isn't that hard to recognize.
That was said in the USSR to kill people. Careful there...your bias is showing.
Lol get real
*when they suit you. Everything else is racism or some type of phobia.
Get off Fox News, you're being fed slop.
overall , yes, but at the same time, It seems like any time I post anything liberal sounding, I end up getting downvoted heavily and the conservatives come out of the woodwork to argue with me, so idk. think it just depends on what thread you're in
It depends on the sub. Most of the subs I read are left leaning because of the mods. Some are laughably left leaning. The Britain sub has bots that post stupid insults about the Royal family and 95% of the threads are about Palestine. It's so far left it's literally a meme. People go there to deliberately get banned. It's a sport. I think the only unbiased sub I've ever found is 2westerneurope4u. It's a banter sub that makes fun of European stereotypes. Despite its lively subject matter, it has managed to find a common ground for not only left and right voices, but multiple countries and cultures. It's a model example of how productive a sub can be when it isn't moderated as an echo chamber.
The problem you are dealing with is that politics in the US at least have steadily moved right in the overton window over the last twenty years, and now only 32% even identify as Republican, much less the common extreme right wing ideology that is the dominant conservative thought today. Compared to the MAGA movement, 75% of the US population is "liberal" in the commonly used sense of "not-maga-conservative", which represents a mix of progessives, actual liberals, moderates of all stripes, independents, non-partisan people who split viewpoints, such las libertarian socially liberal/fiscal conservative viewpoint, RHINOs, neocons, etc. Given this, naturally you will find in any non-political random mix of people to lean to the left comparatively speaking.
This reply shows the bias on reddit. Over the last 20 years the window has shifted to the left, drastically. The abortion fight went from safe, legal, and rare to on demand, tax payer funded. Gay marriage is a thing now. Communists aren't shunned or shamed. You can have your own children taken away for not allowing them to medically alter their genitals in some states. The only way the country has shifted right is more states allow concealed carry.
>You can have your own children taken away for not allowing them to medically alter their genitals in some states. Source?
Abortion went from stare decisis part of every day life medical care since 1973 to effectively banned in 28 states in 2024. How on earth would you possibly consider this a leftward shift?!? This is an enormous shift right and took two decades of shifting political though for it to be even considered possibly, much leass feasible. The window shifted right in the last two decades after three decades of beng static prior to that. It has not shifted "left" on abortion in over fifty years. Gay marriage has been static for a decade after being legalized in 2015. While there is increasing homophobic pressure in the far right, there has been no action other than overturning Roe V Wade that would affect it. While it was moving left prior to that, it would be extremely disingenuous to declare that without acknowledging a decade of no movement. Communists are shamed and shunned by the right just as much as they always have been for decades. The rest of us do not care, as we have not for decades. There has been no movement in this for more than fifty years. The trangender issue is neither moving right nor left. Instead it is polarizing with people that used to be in the middle now moving right or left respectively. It is moving to extremes rather than moving right or left. However, the window has moved strongly to the right when comparing the DNC national platform to two decades ago, and doing the same to the Republican equivalent to a platform, as well as looking at other sources such as Project 2025. For example, look at the campaign promises of Ronald Reagan, Elder Bush and Younger Bush compared to those of Donald Trump. At the same time, compare the same promises of Hilary Clinton versus Bill Clinton. With a few exceptions, everybody has moved right on almost all issues. People who claim the window has moved left are either projecting, or are victims of propaganda.
This is what we call BluAnon
I’m not American but in this particular part or the thread I personally don’t think in making a case for current conservatism, that person is doing it any favours. One viewpoint and opinions here are thoughtful and considered, the other is a bit hysterical and concerned that people are allowed to hold different beliefs and lifestyles even though it doesn’t harm anyone. It could be said that abortion harms of course, but in comparison to the suffering of those capable of thought and emotion, having their reproductive human rights tampered with doesn’t compare. The argument about having one’s children taken away was an incredibly specific one.) Feeling threatened by a married couple who are gay but not that they may be carrying a gun is baffling to me.
>The abortion fight went from safe, legal, and rare to on demand, tax payer funded. Factually incorrect. Federal dollars were always prohibited. I do also like that you've glossed over the fact that in the past 5 years abortion had gone from safe and legal to outlawed in a giant chunk of the country. That is absolutely moving right. >You can have your own children taken away for not allowing them to medically alter their genitals in some states. The APA does not "medically alter genitals" in children. Cite me the state laws that are taking children away if the parents don't allow transitioning. Also In the context of the window moving right, states are banning trans care for both children and adults. That is moving right. >The only way the country has shifted right is more states allow concealed carry. Supreme Court has overturned both DC and NYs bans and expanded access. So, again, shifting right. >. Communists aren't shunned or shamed. So wait, your actual claim here is that moving left means allowing people to have opinions you don't like lmao? The right alternative is thought police? Really telling on yourself.
Society is constantly changing and evolving. People on the "left" simply adapt. If there's been any shift it's the GOP moving further right. Republicans these days think that right of center corporatists like Joe Biden and Mitt Romney are far left communists ffs.
Bingo.
Reality is pretty biased against conservatives because most - not all - but most of their opinions are based on conspiracy theories and obvious propaganda that can be debunked with a 30 second web search. If your entire belief system requires to you insist that historians, doctors, scientists, lawyers and judges are all conspiring together to gaslight you but the guy who was impeached twice and convicted of 34 felonies is the only one telling the truth you need to address your tenuous grasp on reality. I know not all conservatives are this delusional, but on social media it's the dumbest and craziest people who shout the loudest and they deserve to be mocked for their stupid opinions.
Yes, there certainly is a lot of people on social media, places like Reddit, that deserve to have their opinions mocked. Lol.
Reddit is a place where people exchange information and ideas. Most people on here are open minded and capable of doing basic internet research, so they're less likely to fall for these absurd talking points that conservative media is constantly churning out these days because they don't hold up to any scrutiny. Maybe if conservatives didn't constantly argue in bad faith and refuse to change their minds when corrected, more people would take them seriously on Reddit.
If you think Reddit is bad you should check out 4chan and 9gag.
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Yes.
Yes but I think it’s an age thing. Seems like older people are more conservative and there are probably more younger people on Reddit
Yes. Small subs can go any which way. Large subs tend towards neoliberalism and faux-progressivism.
Yeah, but it seems to be a bias towards extreme. The left and right positions around this site are extreme and kinda ignores most people in the real world are centrists.
Well, despite fear tactics from the media, the world is still mostly filled with decent people. So yeah, decent people tend to have leftist ideals.
“Reality has a liberal bias” - Stephen Colbert
People on tv can also be wrong?!?
Yes they can. For example, when Fox News was attempting to defend themselves in court they legally argued that they were an entertainment channel and not a news channel, therefore they have no obligation to be factually correct. I know this is slightly different than merely being wrong, but it certainly is adjacent and quite relevant to the subject.
Couldn’t care any less. I’ve never watched a second of Fox News. I’m sure they can be wrong.
Why don't you care? If is an example directly supporting your above point, and certainly not the only one.
I figured it was just supposed to be “republican tv is also bad”. Both sides can and will be wrong.
Leaving aside right or left political bias for the moment, Fox is the posterchild for when politics and media go bad. From the multiple lawsuits where they successfully argued they do not need to be factual to the Dominion defantion lawsuit, Fox is the #1 exgregious example for being wrong. It's pretty much the dictionary definition and should be expected to be discussed in any discussion of media bias, with the distinction between bias and disinformation being a close second place topic. Some ways to deal with these two points being invitably being raised include: 1) Address it in your initial post 2) Acknowledge it in your initial post, coupled with stating it is not part of the discussion in the thread. 3) Be willing to discuss it in good faith 4) Not be willing to discuss it in good faith and suffer downvotes/blocking that usually follow.
If the most watched conservative news source is claiming in court that they are not a news organization do you not think that says something about the state of conservatism in the US?
Generally it’s best to ignore what lat night hosts have to say.
Holy shit. I think the most insufferable thing is the sense of moral superiority.
I am pretty liberal myself and I hate moral superiority regardless of where it comes from on the political spectrum. That also applies to censorship.
- Wow, that is just a very frustrating statement. Yes, there are decent people in this world. However, people have all sorts of ideals, and that does not make them more or less decent. - Decent, good, honest people are simply that regardless of their political viewpoints. Gosh, what a shit-manipulating comment.
Reality has a liberal bias
Tell everyone you are a Christian White Hetro Male who drives a f350 owns a gun and wants trump. you'll meet your crowd.
When you say "conservatives", you mean "Trump supporters", don't you? I find that Americans often have no grasp of how truly abnormal the Trump movement is. It's not a normal conservative movement. A normal conservative is Joe Scarborough. The Trump movement is something else entirely: it's an attempt to perform a hostile takeover of a democratic society and remake it in the image of one man.
r/conservative
That’s supposed to be a political sub, pics or me_irl are a picture sub, and a meme sub. Both are insanely liberal.
Most redditors are Americans. And in America we have fascists on the conservative side right now so they get a lot of extra deserved hatred.
Tell me what a fascist is without googling it.
A fascist is someone who wants all the power of the government in one person. The opposite of democracy.
Obama has issued more executive orders than trump
Obama 276 over 8 years. Trump 220 over 4. Care to try that again? Trump had almost twice as many per year lol.
FDR had 3721
And? Why deflect. You tried to claim Obama was more dictatorial than trump and were wrong. FDR was granted broad powers In wartime. But executive orders aren't really relevant to fascism. Because fascism isn't simply authoritarian, and executive orders are a legal method of creating policy in a democracy.
No president in US history is even close to a fascist. It’s stupid to think otherwise. It’s become a buzzword. “Everyone whose opinion differs from my is a fascist, racist, something phobe.”
Also Project 2025 was written by conservative strategists. Tell me with a straight face that the things outlined in there aren't textbook fascism.
No, fascism has a definition. It is a right wing, nationalistic, militaristic, authoritarian political ideology/government. Trump wanted a military parade. That's the kind of shit dictators do. Think about the way he talks, he was always threatening to use the military for something or other. His entire personality was projecting strength. Trump is absolutely nationalistic, he literally called himself a nationalist. You literally cannot deny that. ""I'd be a dictator for a day" The man literally just said on television that hell prosecute his rivals for revenge lol. Literally used the word revenge. The man tried to push a conspiracy that the elections were stolen and lost hundreds of court cases on the matter. Attempting to overturn a fucking election with a conspiracy is absolutely authoritarian. I'm not saying he's fucking Mussolini but he's absolutely fascistic. I think people like you tend to not know what the definition of fascism is, and simply associate it with Nazis. >fascist, racist, something phobe.” Republicans tried, and continue to try to overturn gay marriage. Thomas openly signaled his willingness to re address gay marriage. The Texas AG said he is willing to enforce anti gay sodomy laws if the supreme Court allows it. Yes, I do think anyone that supports a party that elects that man is in fact homophobic. Within my lifetime Texas fucking arrested a man for the crime of being gay. You're godamn fucking right I'll call republicans homophobic for continuing to support politicians that would criminalize people for being gay.
Trump is awfully fascist with his whole I'll be a fascist for a day and threatening to lock up his opponents. Sometimes a spade is a spade.
FDR also was trying to push forward the most ambitious reform package in American history past a legislature and supreme court which opposed him. If he had not taken those measures, there’s a pretty good likelihood that the US would have done what the Russians did in 1917. Does that make him more “authoritarian” than a president less inclined to use the powers their office grants them? Yeah. Is it justified? That’s the matter up fir debate.
Lol he was president for twice as long?
Are you here to ask a question or have a political argument? I answered your question I'm not gonna engage in a argument with you.
So like if a side prosecuted and jailed their opponents in order to keep them off ballots, that would be a fascist thing?
Not if the person who gets prosecuted is a criminal. If they aren't actually a criminal then yes.
lol. Ok so let’s use the example of mishandling classified documents. Trump gets raided and is going through the prosecution process. Biden did the same thing, however he wasn’t president and didn’t have the right to keep his documents and when investigated it was determined that he wouldn’t be prosecuted because he was a well intentioned old mad with a bad memory. When Clinton had computers and phones subpoenaed and she had them destroyed, not just discarded, but destroyed intentionally to avoid searches, and then the director of the FBI goes on TV and says she did it all and it was intentional but he wouldn’t prosecute because she was a major candidate for president so they wouldn’t want to influence the election. Double standards that only work in one direction is not a good sign, don’t you think?
Trump refused to give the papers back. Hence why he got raided. He actively lied to his lawyers and told them he had returned them all while having people move them. Not comparable at all.
It’s compatible completely. You can make the argument that Trump declassified them. There is no process for declassification. Any president can just point and say “declassified”. As VP Biden didn’t have that ability. So whether Trump wouldn’t give them back is irrelevant when you consider that Biden doesn’t even have an arguable defense. Consider they were just sitting in his garage where Hunter and others would frequently have access. Consider that the special counsel did say it was bot legal for Biden to have them. But BECAUSE he was old (now) and his memory is failing him (now) they won’t prosecute. Is Trump able to just say “I’m a confused old man” and that’s a defense? If not, why not? Here’s the problem, you’re ok with the double standards because your supported party is currently benefitting. That’s just as dangerous.
And with that I'm done. There is a procedure to declassify. Don't try gaslighting me.
He's also utterly ignorant of the fact that the presidential records act doesn't give a fuck if he declassified them. They're still public property he's not allowed to keep.
>Any president can just point and say “declassified”. Nope. There's a process for that, and some documents cannot be declassified. Furthermore, declassification doesn't mean he doesn't have to return them. >Is Trump able to just say “I’m a confused old man” and that’s a defense? If he had returned the documents when asked, yes. You keep lying and pretending that the issue was having the document, and not the actual issue of him refusing to return them. >As VP Biden didn’t have that ability. So whether Trump wouldn’t give them back is irrelevant when you consider that Biden doesn’t even have an arguable defense. You're doing it again. The crime was not having the documents. It was not returning them. Declassification doesn't actually matter, The presidential records act states that the documents are public property, declassified or not. He refused to return them. The fact that you're arguing about classification shows that you literally don't know what the charges are, because you're not honest enough to actually read them.
You’re really wrong about it. The crime is the possession of classified documents.
>Ok so let’s use the example of mishandling classified documents. Trump gets raided and is going through the prosecution process. Biden did the same thing, however he wasn’t president and didn’t have the right to keep his documents and when investigated it was determined that he wouldn’t be prosecuted because he was a well intentioned old mad with a bad memory. Care to explain to me why you seem to have left out the part where Biden immediately complied and returned them when asked. Meanwhile trump refused multiple requests for them to be returned. Pence also had documents, and returned them without argument. He was not charged. What double standard exactly? Or does your argument fall apart when you're actually honest about the circumstances.
The law states that possession of classified documents is a crime. It doesn't state that if you give them back when asked, then its no longer a crime. They draw this distinction now because it allows them to prosecute Trump but no one else. But it is a crime in black and white just to possess the documents and others have been prosecuted for it. Biden, Clinton, Pence, Trump all violated the law. Trump was prosecuted.
>Biden, Clinton, Pence, Trump all violated the law. Trump was prosecuted Trump was not raised and prosecuted until he refused multiple demands to return them. You guys keep doing this thing where you lie about the circumstances and pretend they're the same. The law states that intentionally taking them is illegal. This is not something that is normally prosecuted if complied with. Also by the way, cite me the law. If you're gonna make claims back it up.
It seems like most of the reddits just say they don't want to talk about politics. So I just avoid politics altogether. We can't read their mind related to how much is too much? It's just something that is taking place across the whole internet. It's the individual people doing it and they set up their guidelines of what they want. What they want what they want to talk about and they just expect other people to understand what they're talking about. And when they don't understand what they're talking about. Then they want to just be heavy. Handed on the moderation button just to kick people out of groups. The same thing is taking place on YouTube and they just want to kick people off of their livestream video channels. How in the world are we supposed to read their mind to know what they want? It gets very frustrating.
It's not that hsrd to figure out why. When you spend your life alone in your room or your basement and dont get out in the world then your views reflect the voices of the loudest people talking and thats usually liberals or leftists. Now it time to be downvoted into oblivion! lol
The way to gain power for ur side is to trash the other side... Reddit is full of younger people... Younger people lean left... To "gain political power"... Reddit shits on Conservatives...
Reddit is full of people
I’ll often see anything shitting on ~~conservatives~~ *Lying cultists* be upvoted into oblivion and I almost never see anything in support of ~~conservatives~~ *Lying cultists* on any of the front page subs like [](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/).
I only see posts and comments shitting on liberals and leftists.
You must completely avoid most of the mainstream subreddits if that's the case.
No I do not avoid mainstream subreddits.
r/politics, r/WhitePeopleTwitter, r/AdviceAnimals and r/pics are always on the front page and might as well just be called r/wehaterepublicans.
The President, all of Congress, and all of the Senate is filled with conservatives from both the Democratic Party and The Republican Party. Out of the hundreds of seats, the left has two people - Bernie Sanders and AOC and yet you are claiming that conservatives are being persecuted. Conservatives cry and throw a fit even when they are winning 
Conservatives do not claim any of the democrats in Congress or Joe Biden. You are changing definitions to try to make it seem like you are not wrong. When you are so far left, everyone seems like a conservative to you.
Highly intelligent people on reddit, people with empathy, not your standard conservative profile.
Nah redditors are not demonstrably smarter than the average human being
Man, I haven't seen a troll in little while, thx for the chuckle.
You’re probably in a liberal leaning echo chamber
Not sure if its purely political But the wannabe woke seems to be off the charts Also the cowards don't usually post They just downvote in masturbatory silence.
I think it’s mostly lefty, but that’s more so what I’m exposed to on here.
Lol yes... It's extremely liberal / left wing. I've been banned from so many subs...
Mostly heavily left, you can try to defend any slightly right wing idea or defend it on seemingly neutral (based on description) sub, and you would get permabaned, usually on whole chain of subs too
any social media is mainly dominated by democrats.
I don't know how anybody can be a Democrat after the last 4 years, but I know they watch news owned by the financial elites pushing their agenda. In the end, those who print the money will get their way. They always do. Big changes are coming.
Good Question, look I am not into politics, I do not vote, I am not even American but given we are essentially conservative about some things and liberal about other things. I do not know about Reddit, but on other platforms it certainly feels like bias do play a part and not only on the political side. I can be any topic (i.e. religion). So, if you are say in the US, with the upcoming election, you will get the most volatile situations and hostility, but I do not blame it on Reddit, after all, what makes Reddit different is the fact that it might be the only platform left as massive as it is which have a less toxic environment. I heard far worse about other social media platforms and perhaps those using other platforms can provide clarity since I do not make use of them. Again, not a US Citizen but here, man did people have a go at each other online.
Most of the UK subs outright ban you if you show any conservative views. It's the same in the European subs. I believe this is partly fuelling the rise of the far right in the EU. Being cancelled on Reddit mirrors and amplifies their frustration with mainstream center left politicians ignoring their concerns. Nobody likes being censored. When they feel censored, they vote far right out of frustration. This is not the same as Trump being a meme and saying stupid things about Mexico, this is deep routed far right ideology spreading amongst the youth in Europe. We have a serious problem, and it's going to cause a war.
This comment section is a prime example of the political bias. Like seriously guys, stop. It was a question from OP, not a debate.
Yea, there was a topic about Trump in Vegas. There was a question asked and I answered it along with a snoops like. I got a notification that someone responded. Tried to go back and it said "this sub forum is private". No point in having a discussion when you can't have one.
Yes. Theres a consistent political bias opposed to the leanings of every loudmouthed solipsist on here. Amazingly the bias is across the spectrum!