Most likely a mix of blanking out because of age or fatigue from the job and daydreaming about the place, considering he's in the legendary masyaf.
Obviously, in a meta way, it's a way to convey tou the audience that ezio will synch with altair just as much as Desmond did for both, hence why it looks so much like the bleeding effect, despite not being the case.
The bleeding effect sounds cool but we never got a definite answer on whether ppl can experience it without being exposed to the animus, and reliving memories, so I personally don't count that as canonical
This is what I always thought. Until I remembered how long ezio was in almost direct contact with the Apple. So my guess is, the apple is able to cause a bleeding effect that allows one "weilder" to see previous ones.
So I just read the entire wiki on pieces of Eden and I’ve played all mainline games, but admittedly not all DLC, and them being linked isn’t mentioned. Where is it mentioned that all the apples are linked because the closest it comes it’s all are all connected in that their purpose is to control humans which I interrupt as the same as all players on a team are connected for the purpose of winning a game but that doesn’t mean they can read each others minds.
Yeah, it's kind of like the Sky World from AC3: King Washington being the Animus Memory Corridor.
You'd think there would be some deeper narrative meaning to it but nope.
Senile?
Serious answer, I always thought it was because Ezio's exposure to the Apple over the decades cause him to hallucinate phantom of his ancestors. Like the bleeding effects from Animus.
Not really, the linages skip around too much, this is the closest I could find that showed how the linages join together
[https://www.deviantart.com/okiir/art/Assassin-s-Creed-Desmond-Miles-Family-Tree-309154704](https://www.deviantart.com/okiir/art/Assassin-s-Creed-Desmond-Miles-Family-Tree-309154704)
That’s the animus effect. The older versions kind of blend your features into your ancestor, which is why Altair has the exact same face as Desmond. It’s also why Ezio’s legacy images look different.
If you look at a promo poster where Altaïr's face is revealed, you can see his face does not resemble Ezio at all - he looks like your typical young, Levantine biracial Arab.
Why do they all look like each other then, even Bayek's face shape and lips and eyes look exactly like Altair, Ezio, Desmond and others.
I don't understand if Ubi didn't plan on making them related why do they all look like each other.
Bayek isn't related to Desmond lineage. Layla found tomb with bodies of Bayek and Aya and relived their memories, where we learn that they commited to Hiden Ones completely. They didn't probably had another children after game ended
For the longest of time, I thought the same. Perhaps it’s because Revelations sort of linked Altair and Ezio together into one story.
Kinda wild to know your great great great grandson would one day marry the great great great granddaughter of the person whom you once seek on your soul searching journey.
It is, but after 500 years or so you have so many descendants its kinda crazy. Doesn't some region in Europe (I think its Iberia) all descend from one common ancestor only a few thousand years ago?
I mean, remember that was just Desmond's bleeding effect acting up. I never gave it much thought, never thought it hinted at a connection to Ezio.
It did show us how genetic memory works, though. The moment your ancestors concieve a baby (which in turn would go on to be another ancestor of yours), your link to those original ancestors is broken, and you can only relive their memories up to that point.
Not super clear at face value, but painfully obvious if you think about it. If you're reliving your ancestors' memories through your genetic memory as Desmond did, it'd be impossible to, say, see your father's memories after you were conceived, because, after that point, there'd be no way for your father's subsequent memories to end up in your genes.
Desmond himself figures it out based on his dialogue:
>"Wait a second... Why aren't I following Altaïr? I'm stuck here with Maria. Oh shit! That must mean..."
...that they just conceived a child, and therefore, Desmond's genetic link to Altaïr is now severed, now unable to experience his memory past that point.
Makes perfect sense, thank you.
I never understood that quote from Desmond until now. I mean, I understood that he realised they had a kid, but now I understand the significance of that and not following Altaïr anymore.
I liked your explanation, but what about Haytham and Connor? Up to what I can remember, we were able to follow Haytham even when he got Connor's mother pregnant. Correct me if I am wrong
After a quick research, that's not correct. The assumption is that Haytham got Ziio (Connor's mother) pregnant after the end of that mission, where she leads him to the Great Temple's entrance. If that were true, yes, it wouldn't make sense given that we continue to follow Haytham after that, where we watch that cutscene where he inducts Charles Lee into the Templar Order (and by extension we get the reveal that these were Templars all along).
However, that's not what happened. Haytham gets Ziio pregnant sometime AFTER that cutscene. He goes to the Templars and we watch the cutscene, but afterward he goes back to Ziio and it is said that they spend some time together. And it is then that Connor is concieved.
>However, that's not what happened. Haytham gets Ziio pregnant sometime AFTER that cutscene
"Listen, Haytham you can impregnate me after a second date, I don't make the rules."
You're wrong, you're now mentioning one of Desmond's episodes of bleeding effect in witch he saw the last moments of his genetical connection to Altair, the moment he impregnated that woman/his wife
They don’t use the same Apple. The Apple that Ezio used in 2/Brotherhood is different from the one used by Altair from the original. In fact Altair’s Apple is sealed and only seen by Ezio at the end of Revelations.
Maybe not hallucinations, but an image made to guide him. The apple was affected by Minerva and may well have altered Ezio's mind to have that specific image that will guide him and fulfill the prophecy.
In revelations, he starts to find the disks, which lets him replay Altair's memories. It's basically the first animus. So Ezio is feeling somewhat of a bleeding effect and recalling Altair's steps
There's a disk a stones toss distance away, very well could of activated slightly hence only slight phantoms appearing instead of the full memory sealed inside the disk
Boring but accurate answer.
Assassins creed trailers always do this lol, the great battle in Connor’s trailer makes you go around the entire thing in game instead of the solo rampage we see in trailer.
I wish the AC3 mission was like that, when I did that mission first attempt I literally just ran straight in a got insta shot, would have been so cool if in the middle of the ground you had to hide behind objects, then when you get really close, you just straight do a 1v50 to try and get to the templar, if the mission was made like that, AC3 would be #1 greatest AC hame of all time.
His eagle sense also allows him to track people by seeing their phantoms. I think since he has used the apple of eden in the past, with his heightened senses he can see Altair. Someone also mentioned that he was close to the memory disk Altair left.
I theorized about it before. I wrote that it might've been Ezio's evolved Eagle Vision, or Eagle Sense, as it was named in Revelations.
Similar to how Arno had the ability to see his target's memories during assassinations, this Eagle Sense could've allowed Ezio to see Altaïr from Masyaf's past. An ability known as psychometry, being able to see, to feel, something's history, be it an object, a person, or a place.
I managed to find that comment I made back then, it goes as follows:
>Arno's ability can be explained the same way. Similarly, Ezio's evolved Eagle Vision (dubbed Eagle Sense in Revelations) allowed him to see his target's path and could explain why he saw visions of Altaïr in the Revelations opening cinematic.
>All these abilities are variants of psychometry, the ability to sense an object's history.
>Cal's manifests with inanimate objects, while Arno's manifests with the targets he kills. You could say Ezio's psychometry manifests in places, as he can sense a target's movement in a certain place, as well as having sensed Altaïr's presence just by stepping into Masyaf.
It’s probably just for the trailer or maybe canonically only Desmond is seeing it as a animus glitch or because Desmond’s consciousness is stuck in the animus in Revelations he’s seeing both memories of Ezio and Altair in the same area simultaneously with no control
That's a popular theory, but I argue that it's incorrect. Ezio reacts physically to Altaïr's presence. Hell, seeing Altaïr's phantom is the reason he got distracted and was ultimately overpowered and captured.
And then he once more reacts to Altaïr's phantom when he's taken to the platform. Even Leandros (the Templar standing behind Ezio in that scene) notices that Ezio is weirdly looking over the adjacent platform, further proving that Ezio, at least within the context of the trailer cinematic, did see Altaïr.
Whether this actually happens in the canon remains unclear. I'd say it does, but like I said, that is ultimately unclear.
The implication is that it is happening to Ezio in canon. Something I haven't seen a lot of people bring up is that the trailer cinematic is replayed at the beginning of the game before we get control (albeit with some continuity errors), and it ends with Ezio basically following in Altaïr's footsteps, performing a pseudo Leap of Faith after seeing the phantom do it. Then as we gain control, Ezio is literally following the paths that Altaïr was implied to have climbed around Masyaf, following those same visions. The sequence of this narrative (that these things happen back-to-back) suggests that Ezio himself is seeing these visions and using them to find the best way around the area.
Exactly. It's not just a cinematic trailer. If it was that, then all of that can absolutely be written off as just trailer fluff that may or may not be canon. But it's not. It's basically the opening cinematic of the game. The fact that we start playing as Ezio immediately after the cinematic, essentially continuing the story it introduced, makes the cutscene 100% canonical.
Because at this point in time, Ezio had touched multiple Apples of Eden, which gave him insight into the world. And also the Isu mentioned that Ezio’s whole life had a “destiny” and his main purpose for living was so that Desmond could eventually relive his memories.
Ezio’s destiny was to relive Altairs memory’s through the “keys”
Those memories were unavailable to Desmond in the animus, because they happened when Altair was older, and after he had children (any memories you make AFTER you have kids, won’t get “passed down”, obviously)
SO, in a way, Ezio’s sole purpose for existing, was to relive Altairs memories through the keys, so that Desmond could use the animus, to relive the memories of Ezio using the keys, to relive the memories of Altair.
All because Desmond’s brain was “broken” from having Altair and Ezio both “in his head” because he never “finished their stories”, so he had to do so to wake up from the coma.
And again, all of this was “scripted” to happen, by the Isu. So that Desmond could be the “chosen one” and save the world in AC3
Inception ain’t got SHIT on Revelations plot line, lol
Over exposure to the apple, it awakened Altïair’s genetic memories and experiences and when Ezio held it and he was compelled to see what happened to Altïair and rediscover the Order’s origin. A pseudo-bleeding effect without learning Altïair’s skills or reliving his memories unconsciously.
Ezio's POV : he mastered the Eagle Vision to such a high degree it morphed into the Eagle Sense, a superior Vision that allowed him to predict the future paths of his targets and 'see' the echoes of the past
Desmond's POV : the Bleeding effect got so bad his perception of reliving Ezio's memories was overlaping with Altair's memories
I read it as Desmonds memories of his ancestor bleeding into ezios the animus doesn't recreate the memories perfectly especially since Desmonds mind is pretty fucked at this point
I guarantee it's because Ezio's Eagle Vision was triggering visions. We don't know the full extent of the abilities of Eagle Vision. Everybody who has had it has showcased different capabilities and limits. All we know is that it helps the user track targets, and when taken to it's peak, detect bombs and other items and follow them to the source. Eagle Vision is a Isu ability that the Assassins have inherited and those Assassins that turned traitor.
I haven’t played the game in sometime, but at the end doesn’t ezio say he’s been seeing Altair and his visions. Which was trying to hammer home that he knew of him but didn’t know what he looked like? Please someone correct me if I’m wrong. And also tries to talk to him too when he finds the last piece at the end.
It's easily explained by Ezio's exposure to the apple. For the longest time, after AC1, Altaïr held the apple. Using it's knowledge to create the codex pages for the "keep your finger" hidden blades, as well as the poison blades and hidden gun. Ezio using the apple in brotherhood, the same apple the bestowed knowledge onto Altaïr, also gave him the memories of Altaïr. We can see the ISU artifact transcends space and time when Ezio speaks to Desmond at the end of AC Revelations, so it's not too outlandish to assume Ezio's "illusions" are both his and Altaïr's consciousnesses meshing because of the apple.
My theory is because the apple instructed Altair to make the discs basically for Ezio, to transmit a message to him, and because of Ezio’s high affinity to the pieces of Eden. Whenever he was in close proximity to one of the discs he would start to see glimpses of the messages within them.
…Or they just used that concept for the trailer and tutorial cause it looked cool.
This is purely head canon:
Since the Isu needed Ezio to find Altair, so that they could send another message to Desmond through Ezio at the end of the game (like they did at the end of AC2) I think they used the fact that both Ezio and Altair exposed to the pieces of Eden for an extended period and were trying to basically make Ezio hallucinate and lead him to Altair, in a similar way we see Desmond being led by Ezio through the Auditore Vila in ACB - but instead it just ends up distracting him in the middle of the fight.
The real reason is probably the Ubi devs just thought it was a cool idea, which tbf I agree with
Y’all do know that Desmond is a descendant of both Altair and Ezio right? Ezio from Williams side Altair from his mother’s. He also has high levels of Isu DNA. He wasn’t sage level like Bassim but he was definitely up there.
Probably bleeding effect. It's possible for it to happen without animus, apparently.
Desmond had visions like that in, I think, AC2. But I can't remember if they were of Ezio, Altair or Altair's wife. I don't know, haven't played those games in a while. Might play them again.
It was visions of Altaïr he saw, and technically also of Altaïr's wife, Maria.
But either way, Ezio's visions of Altaïr weren't due to the Bleeding Effect. The Bleeding Effect is when you start seeing your ancestors' memories outside the Animus, starting off as short visions before progressing to the point where they start blending with your own memories, slowly becoming unable to tell them apart.
I don't think it's ever been stated that you could experience a Bleeding Effect episode within the Animus. Regardless, it's still possible that Altaïr was still only visible to Desmond, but then that wouldn't explain why Ezio had a physical reaction to him, twice. And Ezio being the one experiencing the Bleeding Effect himself makes no sense since the Bleeding Effect is only contracted through overexposure to the Animus.
I think possibly, it's a apple projection. The apple ezio is looking for is there in Fort. We do know that the isle of skye apple can influence people. Maybe it was doing that so ezio could find it. Showing altair's memories so ezio could start his journey.
He was experiencing hallucinations due to the effects of the Apple of Eden. It's the same reason he knew to leave the coordinates of the Colosseum in the villa that only Desmond could have found. The hallucinations are a part of the reason why at the end of the Revelations Ezio decides to leave behind the new Apple of Eden sayin "No. I've seen enough for one life."
The exposure from the apple in the first 2 games, they left a lasting effect on his brain and I think that apple is same apple that was held by Altair at in AC 1 right, so I guess it retains its previous memories. I mean you see the same thing happen with the discs later on, Ezio reliving full on memories of Altair.
After reading some of these comments I guess my theory is out the window. I thought ezio wasn't seeing Altair at all but Desmond who was reliving ezio's memories was. Since revelations is about Desmond trying to separate himself from those 2 in the Animus
I'm going to put a spiritual/Native American twist here (I have a strong connection with a tribe). So, I think he started to sense his energy/presence, and possibly had psychic vision. The eagle vision itself is sort of like intuition, and the natives name things after eagles/birds. Maybe he was also seeing his past life. That's my twist on it.
The way I took it is that it wasn't Ezio seeing Altair, but Desmond seeing him through Ezio's eyes because of the bleeding effect. Desmond at this point was in the animus a lot, he lived as both of them, makes sense that both of those realities would bleed together especially when Ezio was following in Altairs footsteps becoming so focused on him. Almost like Ezio and Desmond, two minds being influenced by the memories he left behind.
It's probable only Desmond is seeing Altaïr, and since he puppets Ezio through the Animus, we see not Ezio being distracted in the fight, but Desmond. And since it was a losing fight anyway, the distraction wasn't enough to cause desync.
That's my way of seeing it anyway. And iirc Ezio never says he saw ghosts. He would've mentioned something like that in his letters to Claudia.
I always took it as his Eagle Sense giving him visions. Ezio by this age was at peak senses, I believe.
Probably a side effect of using the Apple
Most likely a mix of blanking out because of age or fatigue from the job and daydreaming about the place, considering he's in the legendary masyaf. Obviously, in a meta way, it's a way to convey tou the audience that ezio will synch with altair just as much as Desmond did for both, hence why it looks so much like the bleeding effect, despite not being the case.
The bleeding effect sounds cool but we never got a definite answer on whether ppl can experience it without being exposed to the animus, and reliving memories, so I personally don't count that as canonical
Read that again
How did I miss that... my apologies
No worries, it happens, even to the best of us
This is what I always thought. Until I remembered how long ezio was in almost direct contact with the Apple. So my guess is, the apple is able to cause a bleeding effect that allows one "weilder" to see previous ones.
future story be like "abstergo tech runs on pieces of eden. theyve always had one etc."
Hey, I don't mind writing parts of the story for AC. (Just don't come after me if they do.)
Altair’s apple was behind the wall and ultimately blown up by Abstergo in testing. Ezio’s apple was the one in Rome.
The peices of eden are tied together.
So I just read the entire wiki on pieces of Eden and I’ve played all mainline games, but admittedly not all DLC, and them being linked isn’t mentioned. Where is it mentioned that all the apples are linked because the closest it comes it’s all are all connected in that their purpose is to control humans which I interrupt as the same as all players on a team are connected for the purpose of winning a game but that doesn’t mean they can read each others minds.
Once again, it is a theory. But they ARE linked.
Yeah, it's kind of like the Sky World from AC3: King Washington being the Animus Memory Corridor. You'd think there would be some deeper narrative meaning to it but nope.
Senile? Serious answer, I always thought it was because Ezio's exposure to the Apple over the decades cause him to hallucinate phantom of his ancestors. Like the bleeding effects from Animus.
Altair and Ezio weren't related
Wait, really? I always thought Ezio was a direct decent of Altair. Then which lines the Kenway came from, Altair or Ezio?
None, Kenway line meets with Auditore line later, so both Ezio and Edward are ancestors to William, Altair is only ancestor to Desmond and his mom.
Oh, gotcha. Thanks.
Is there a good family tree out there for this lineage?
If there isn't, give me a couple of days, and I'll whip up something.
I’m all for this.
A bit scuffed, but [here it is.](https://imgur.com/a/yIb38ZI)
Legend.
Thank you.
Not really, the linages skip around too much, this is the closest I could find that showed how the linages join together [https://www.deviantart.com/okiir/art/Assassin-s-Creed-Desmond-Miles-Family-Tree-309154704](https://www.deviantart.com/okiir/art/Assassin-s-Creed-Desmond-Miles-Family-Tree-309154704)
But Altair and Ezio look so similar ..
That’s the animus effect. The older versions kind of blend your features into your ancestor, which is why Altair has the exact same face as Desmond. It’s also why Ezio’s legacy images look different.
If you look at a promo poster where Altaïr's face is revealed, you can see his face does not resemble Ezio at all - he looks like your typical young, Levantine biracial Arab.
Lore answer, is the animus Real answer, ubisoft was either lazy, or, as some people told me "it was to save CD space "
Why do they all look like each other then, even Bayek's face shape and lips and eyes look exactly like Altair, Ezio, Desmond and others. I don't understand if Ubi didn't plan on making them related why do they all look like each other.
Bayek looks nothing like Altair, Ezio or Desmond
Bayek isn't related to Desmond lineage. Layla found tomb with bodies of Bayek and Aya and relived their memories, where we learn that they commited to Hiden Ones completely. They didn't probably had another children after game ended
Just compare their faces idk what to tell you they look alike.
Just compare their faces idk what to tell you they look nothing alike.
Because it's cheap. Altair, Ezio and Desmond all have the same character model, even the same scar
For the longest of time, I thought the same. Perhaps it’s because Revelations sort of linked Altair and Ezio together into one story. Kinda wild to know your great great great grandson would one day marry the great great great granddaughter of the person whom you once seek on your soul searching journey.
It is, but after 500 years or so you have so many descendants its kinda crazy. Doesn't some region in Europe (I think its Iberia) all descend from one common ancestor only a few thousand years ago?
Like 30% of World population descends from Genghis Khan
Say what you will about his other activities, dude fucked.
Nono, 16 million people are related to him or 0,5 % of 8billilon people.
Oh, I've changed the Million to the %, My bad. Thanks for the correction
Np, have a greay day.
But then, whst was the point of that part where we first played Altair in 2 and then stayed with impregnsted woman as Altair left?
I mean, remember that was just Desmond's bleeding effect acting up. I never gave it much thought, never thought it hinted at a connection to Ezio. It did show us how genetic memory works, though. The moment your ancestors concieve a baby (which in turn would go on to be another ancestor of yours), your link to those original ancestors is broken, and you can only relive their memories up to that point. Not super clear at face value, but painfully obvious if you think about it. If you're reliving your ancestors' memories through your genetic memory as Desmond did, it'd be impossible to, say, see your father's memories after you were conceived, because, after that point, there'd be no way for your father's subsequent memories to end up in your genes. Desmond himself figures it out based on his dialogue: >"Wait a second... Why aren't I following Altaïr? I'm stuck here with Maria. Oh shit! That must mean..." ...that they just conceived a child, and therefore, Desmond's genetic link to Altaïr is now severed, now unable to experience his memory past that point.
Makes perfect sense, thank you. I never understood that quote from Desmond until now. I mean, I understood that he realised they had a kid, but now I understand the significance of that and not following Altaïr anymore.
I liked your explanation, but what about Haytham and Connor? Up to what I can remember, we were able to follow Haytham even when he got Connor's mother pregnant. Correct me if I am wrong
After a quick research, that's not correct. The assumption is that Haytham got Ziio (Connor's mother) pregnant after the end of that mission, where she leads him to the Great Temple's entrance. If that were true, yes, it wouldn't make sense given that we continue to follow Haytham after that, where we watch that cutscene where he inducts Charles Lee into the Templar Order (and by extension we get the reveal that these were Templars all along). However, that's not what happened. Haytham gets Ziio pregnant sometime AFTER that cutscene. He goes to the Templars and we watch the cutscene, but afterward he goes back to Ziio and it is said that they spend some time together. And it is then that Connor is concieved.
>However, that's not what happened. Haytham gets Ziio pregnant sometime AFTER that cutscene "Listen, Haytham you can impregnate me after a second date, I don't make the rules."
Hey, maybe they did try it right then and there, and it only worked the second try. Nature's often unpredictable.
I mean we don't know how long they kept their relationship, maybe she got pregnant after a couple more "meetings"
Yeah i wanna hear explanation for this situation.
You're wrong, you're now mentioning one of Desmond's episodes of bleeding effect in witch he saw the last moments of his genetical connection to Altair, the moment he impregnated that woman/his wife
But then how does Desmond access Ezio?
Desmond is related to both Altair and Ezio but both of them aren't related to each other
They ain't related by blood BUT they both had prolonged contact with the apple, maybe that cause a connection?
They don’t use the same Apple. The Apple that Ezio used in 2/Brotherhood is different from the one used by Altair from the original. In fact Altair’s Apple is sealed and only seen by Ezio at the end of Revelations.
That's my assumption as well
Maybe not hallucinations, but an image made to guide him. The apple was affected by Minerva and may well have altered Ezio's mind to have that specific image that will guide him and fulfill the prophecy.
In revelations, he starts to find the disks, which lets him replay Altair's memories. It's basically the first animus. So Ezio is feeling somewhat of a bleeding effect and recalling Altair's steps
Yes, but he doesn’t find any before this point.
There's a disk a stones toss distance away, very well could of activated slightly hence only slight phantoms appearing instead of the full memory sealed inside the disk
I think I read somewhere once that it's because he was in close proximity to Altair's memory seal and he has a high amount of Isu dna
I think this is the best answer, Ezio and Altair both have high amounts of Isu dna
Idk but now I wanna see the trailer and listen to some Woodkid lol
They never topped that trailer imo
When I first saw that trailer in 2011, I was 11 years old, it was mind-blowing.
Literally what made me play assassin's creed for the first time and fall in love with the license
Brotherhood and Revelations trailers are two of the best in the history of gaming
Because it looked cool in the trailer
Boring but accurate answer. Assassins creed trailers always do this lol, the great battle in Connor’s trailer makes you go around the entire thing in game instead of the solo rampage we see in trailer.
I wish the AC3 mission was like that, when I did that mission first attempt I literally just ran straight in a got insta shot, would have been so cool if in the middle of the ground you had to hide behind objects, then when you get really close, you just straight do a 1v50 to try and get to the templar, if the mission was made like that, AC3 would be #1 greatest AC hame of all time.
The difference is than the Trailer is "canon", since this trailer also appeared in the game, it wasn't something they created to make it look cool.
I would be daydreaming too if I was standing on the same grounds the legend himself used to walk in.
His eagle sense also allows him to track people by seeing their phantoms. I think since he has used the apple of eden in the past, with his heightened senses he can see Altair. Someone also mentioned that he was close to the memory disk Altair left.
I theorized about it before. I wrote that it might've been Ezio's evolved Eagle Vision, or Eagle Sense, as it was named in Revelations. Similar to how Arno had the ability to see his target's memories during assassinations, this Eagle Sense could've allowed Ezio to see Altaïr from Masyaf's past. An ability known as psychometry, being able to see, to feel, something's history, be it an object, a person, or a place. I managed to find that comment I made back then, it goes as follows: >Arno's ability can be explained the same way. Similarly, Ezio's evolved Eagle Vision (dubbed Eagle Sense in Revelations) allowed him to see his target's path and could explain why he saw visions of Altaïr in the Revelations opening cinematic. >All these abilities are variants of psychometry, the ability to sense an object's history. >Cal's manifests with inanimate objects, while Arno's manifests with the targets he kills. You could say Ezio's psychometry manifests in places, as he can sense a target's movement in a certain place, as well as having sensed Altaïr's presence just by stepping into Masyaf.
Just out of curiosity, when did Cal show signs of psychometry again? Are you talking about that time he had a vision of Aguilar and "fought him"?
We were talking about Cal Kestis in that conversation. The protagonist from the Star Wars Jedi games.
Huh... I don't know this character at all, but okay...
Brain damage?
Is he…
He's found the Masyaf Hashish stash
That hashhazins kush🌬️💨
It’s probably just for the trailer or maybe canonically only Desmond is seeing it as a animus glitch or because Desmond’s consciousness is stuck in the animus in Revelations he’s seeing both memories of Ezio and Altair in the same area simultaneously with no control
That's a popular theory, but I argue that it's incorrect. Ezio reacts physically to Altaïr's presence. Hell, seeing Altaïr's phantom is the reason he got distracted and was ultimately overpowered and captured. And then he once more reacts to Altaïr's phantom when he's taken to the platform. Even Leandros (the Templar standing behind Ezio in that scene) notices that Ezio is weirdly looking over the adjacent platform, further proving that Ezio, at least within the context of the trailer cinematic, did see Altaïr. Whether this actually happens in the canon remains unclear. I'd say it does, but like I said, that is ultimately unclear.
The implication is that it is happening to Ezio in canon. Something I haven't seen a lot of people bring up is that the trailer cinematic is replayed at the beginning of the game before we get control (albeit with some continuity errors), and it ends with Ezio basically following in Altaïr's footsteps, performing a pseudo Leap of Faith after seeing the phantom do it. Then as we gain control, Ezio is literally following the paths that Altaïr was implied to have climbed around Masyaf, following those same visions. The sequence of this narrative (that these things happen back-to-back) suggests that Ezio himself is seeing these visions and using them to find the best way around the area.
Exactly. It's not just a cinematic trailer. If it was that, then all of that can absolutely be written off as just trailer fluff that may or may not be canon. But it's not. It's basically the opening cinematic of the game. The fact that we start playing as Ezio immediately after the cinematic, essentially continuing the story it introduced, makes the cutscene 100% canonical.
AC was cool back then
Because at this point in time, Ezio had touched multiple Apples of Eden, which gave him insight into the world. And also the Isu mentioned that Ezio’s whole life had a “destiny” and his main purpose for living was so that Desmond could eventually relive his memories. Ezio’s destiny was to relive Altairs memory’s through the “keys” Those memories were unavailable to Desmond in the animus, because they happened when Altair was older, and after he had children (any memories you make AFTER you have kids, won’t get “passed down”, obviously) SO, in a way, Ezio’s sole purpose for existing, was to relive Altairs memories through the keys, so that Desmond could use the animus, to relive the memories of Ezio using the keys, to relive the memories of Altair. All because Desmond’s brain was “broken” from having Altair and Ezio both “in his head” because he never “finished their stories”, so he had to do so to wake up from the coma. And again, all of this was “scripted” to happen, by the Isu. So that Desmond could be the “chosen one” and save the world in AC3 Inception ain’t got SHIT on Revelations plot line, lol
I thought it was because of using the Apple so much.
High on drugs I think it must have some effect on him with the apple he kept in the coliseum.
Over exposure to the apple, it awakened Altïair’s genetic memories and experiences and when Ezio held it and he was compelled to see what happened to Altïair and rediscover the Order’s origin. A pseudo-bleeding effect without learning Altïair’s skills or reliving his memories unconsciously.
Ezio's POV : he mastered the Eagle Vision to such a high degree it morphed into the Eagle Sense, a superior Vision that allowed him to predict the future paths of his targets and 'see' the echoes of the past Desmond's POV : the Bleeding effect got so bad his perception of reliving Ezio's memories was overlaping with Altair's memories
LSD
It was cool? Nothing lore based
Awesome visuals don't need an explanation
The force works in mysterious ways.
Because it made for the coolest trailer ever
It could be his eagle Sense
It could be a case of Eagle Vision
I read it as Desmonds memories of his ancestor bleeding into ezios the animus doesn't recreate the memories perfectly especially since Desmonds mind is pretty fucked at this point
Because they didn't have schizophrenia meds back then
I guarantee it's because Ezio's Eagle Vision was triggering visions. We don't know the full extent of the abilities of Eagle Vision. Everybody who has had it has showcased different capabilities and limits. All we know is that it helps the user track targets, and when taken to it's peak, detect bombs and other items and follow them to the source. Eagle Vision is a Isu ability that the Assassins have inherited and those Assassins that turned traitor.
I haven’t played the game in sometime, but at the end doesn’t ezio say he’s been seeing Altair and his visions. Which was trying to hammer home that he knew of him but didn’t know what he looked like? Please someone correct me if I’m wrong. And also tries to talk to him too when he finds the last piece at the end.
i think it was just a hint to display to the players that you could play as both of them
So the game can happen
It's easily explained by Ezio's exposure to the apple. For the longest time, after AC1, Altaïr held the apple. Using it's knowledge to create the codex pages for the "keep your finger" hidden blades, as well as the poison blades and hidden gun. Ezio using the apple in brotherhood, the same apple the bestowed knowledge onto Altaïr, also gave him the memories of Altaïr. We can see the ISU artifact transcends space and time when Ezio speaks to Desmond at the end of AC Revelations, so it's not too outlandish to assume Ezio's "illusions" are both his and Altaïr's consciousnesses meshing because of the apple.
Is it not Miles sees him through Ezio. Ezio might have not originally without the animus. Like I'm sure he doesn't see a floating flag or feather...
Ezio experiencing the bleeding effect, seeing visions of altiar, and later Desmond, mans built different
I think maybe his mind was affected by the Apple. Minerva somehow affected the content of it to fulfill the prophecy.
He had eagle vision since he was 17 at least, him also seeing people is totally believable.
My theory is because the apple instructed Altair to make the discs basically for Ezio, to transmit a message to him, and because of Ezio’s high affinity to the pieces of Eden. Whenever he was in close proximity to one of the discs he would start to see glimpses of the messages within them. …Or they just used that concept for the trailer and tutorial cause it looked cool.
This is purely head canon: Since the Isu needed Ezio to find Altair, so that they could send another message to Desmond through Ezio at the end of the game (like they did at the end of AC2) I think they used the fact that both Ezio and Altair exposed to the pieces of Eden for an extended period and were trying to basically make Ezio hallucinate and lead him to Altair, in a similar way we see Desmond being led by Ezio through the Auditore Vila in ACB - but instead it just ends up distracting him in the middle of the fight. The real reason is probably the Ubi devs just thought it was a cool idea, which tbf I agree with
Altair is ezio’s ancestor just as Desmond is. Both come from the same line of esu-human hybrids from before the earth was scorched
Y’all do know that Desmond is a descendant of both Altair and Ezio right? Ezio from Williams side Altair from his mother’s. He also has high levels of Isu DNA. He wasn’t sage level like Bassim but he was definitely up there.
Eagle Sense or hypothermia-induced hallucination which is funnier
They both had lots of contact with the Apple of Eden
Exposure to ISU artifacts? Maybe the Animus Glitching out?
A bigger question is, why does he fight like 100 guys and wen ever get a battle that interesting or big in the AC Series since the first one?
I assumed it was due to contact with the apple and other isu artefacts, you can’t come into contact with that much power and not have it effect you
I figured it was Ezio starting to experience the bleeding effect from the memory discs.
He gets the discs afterward, though.
Probably bleeding effect. It's possible for it to happen without animus, apparently. Desmond had visions like that in, I think, AC2. But I can't remember if they were of Ezio, Altair or Altair's wife. I don't know, haven't played those games in a while. Might play them again.
It was visions of Altaïr he saw, and technically also of Altaïr's wife, Maria. But either way, Ezio's visions of Altaïr weren't due to the Bleeding Effect. The Bleeding Effect is when you start seeing your ancestors' memories outside the Animus, starting off as short visions before progressing to the point where they start blending with your own memories, slowly becoming unable to tell them apart. I don't think it's ever been stated that you could experience a Bleeding Effect episode within the Animus. Regardless, it's still possible that Altaïr was still only visible to Desmond, but then that wouldn't explain why Ezio had a physical reaction to him, twice. And Ezio being the one experiencing the Bleeding Effect himself makes no sense since the Bleeding Effect is only contracted through overexposure to the Animus.
So Ezio just as well could have been hallucinating?
That it's the most likely scenario. Well, not a hallucination per se, more like seeing a phantom of the past.
I mean isn't the basically the whole story plot of Revelations? Ezio seeking out Altair's hidden library?
Animus Bleeding?
He knew about the *spice melange*...
He was experiencing the bleeding effect from interacting with a bunch of isu artifacts so many times
I think possibly, it's a apple projection. The apple ezio is looking for is there in Fort. We do know that the isle of skye apple can influence people. Maybe it was doing that so ezio could find it. Showing altair's memories so ezio could start his journey.
He was experiencing hallucinations due to the effects of the Apple of Eden. It's the same reason he knew to leave the coordinates of the Colosseum in the villa that only Desmond could have found. The hallucinations are a part of the reason why at the end of the Revelations Ezio decides to leave behind the new Apple of Eden sayin "No. I've seen enough for one life."
Because he was following in his footsteps, based on visions he saw in the codex discs.
I always thought these are Animus' "bugs" or leaks of memory while Desmond is using the machine.
The exposure from the apple in the first 2 games, they left a lasting effect on his brain and I think that apple is same apple that was held by Altair at in AC 1 right, so I guess it retains its previous memories. I mean you see the same thing happen with the discs later on, Ezio reliving full on memories of Altair.
Because he is his ancestor
This is actually explained in the books 🤓
He was schizophrenic. But seriously, my headcannon is the apple.
After reading some of these comments I guess my theory is out the window. I thought ezio wasn't seeing Altair at all but Desmond who was reliving ezio's memories was. Since revelations is about Desmond trying to separate himself from those 2 in the Animus
He probably took some hashish assassin's weed which is real by the way lol
I'm going to put a spiritual/Native American twist here (I have a strong connection with a tribe). So, I think he started to sense his energy/presence, and possibly had psychic vision. The eagle vision itself is sort of like intuition, and the natives name things after eagles/birds. Maybe he was also seeing his past life. That's my twist on it.
he tried the local hash
The way I took it is that it wasn't Ezio seeing Altair, but Desmond seeing him through Ezio's eyes because of the bleeding effect. Desmond at this point was in the animus a lot, he lived as both of them, makes sense that both of those realities would bleed together especially when Ezio was following in Altairs footsteps becoming so focused on him. Almost like Ezio and Desmond, two minds being influenced by the memories he left behind.
It's probable only Desmond is seeing Altaïr, and since he puppets Ezio through the Animus, we see not Ezio being distracted in the fight, but Desmond. And since it was a losing fight anyway, the distraction wasn't enough to cause desync. That's my way of seeing it anyway. And iirc Ezio never says he saw ghosts. He would've mentioned something like that in his letters to Claudia.
When in confusion... Go by Eagle Vision
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What do you mean they ruined him?
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Sorry I still don’t understand. When did they ruin him? Because Altair hasn’t made a game appearance since Revelations in 2011.
Ezio had the apple for how long??? Nah that couldn’t be a reason why could it? 🤷🏼♂️
It's metaphorical Nothing like that happened. The trailer shows to us Altair because we know him.
Eagle Sense, my God did you even play the game it's literally part of gameplay, even Altaïr experienced it in later memories