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sjelstay

Imagine the elderly who don't even know what a qr code is, spent 5 whole minutes trying to explain it to my grandma. This will suck especially for people that didn't even bring a phone or doesn't got camera or anything, just Over all stupid


Susurrus03

I hate that QR code shit so much. Last month I was doing a DC Smithsonian museum binge on the weekends. Got to the African Art musem (not to be confused with African American History museum), and instead of descriptions of everything just displayed they had it in all QR codes. Fucking why? Just put a damn sign up. I usually read a good portion at museums, but couldn't be bothered with QR codes so got through pretty quick.


sjelstay

Nahhh there is no way that actually happened, wtf literally whenever I come across one I leave like hell no (especially when they don't even got wifi too put it into google). At a museum is like outrageous the whole point is too read a little description and shit like that's actually crazy


Susurrus03

Unfortunately it was there. I wish it wasn't. Some of the stuff I legit wanted to know about, but I'm not gonna stand around and scan a ton of QR codes to read it on my phone when there's a perfectly good spot on that sign.


sjelstay

Yea like imagin walking into a room and everyone's on there phones and your like ' what the actual fuck ' they are being cheap asf not everything gotta be digitized


Susurrus03

Probably, but not a lot of people in there when I went, and of those that were, I didn't see anyone scanning any QR codes, they probably felt the same way.


realnzall

If there’s one thing we shouldn’t be teaching people, it’s to scan every QR code they come across. Those can spread malware.


sassydress

And then when you scan the QR code at some of those museums it takes you to a website page that doesn’t exist anymore


CeeMX

There are some advantages on QR codes, like you can update stuff without having to print new signs. And for restaurants it’s cool to have the option to order over it and directly pay with Apple Pay maybe. But it should be an option, not mandatory.


Susurrus03

Ya I'm not saying they dont have their place, but they should stay in those places.


CeeMX

During Peak Covid I liked it, you could see the menu on your own phone and didn’t have to touch the menu everyone else before did


Susurrus03

I'd say the ones where you use the QR code to order is good when you're out with friends and don't want to deal with splitting the check. You just order your own food separately on your own phones.


Fallom_TO

Not to mention someone can scan and then use google translate to get it in their first language (image scan translate is janky). Then there are people who use screen readers and other assistive devices. Linking to properly laid out pages is more inclusive than print in one language.


YaMamasNkondi

I wonder if that is intentional to limit accessibility to the museum. I literally have never been to a museum that had that


Dave3048

I am 67. I understand what a QR code is. But I absolutely fucking refuse to put up with this kind of thing. Other places will happily take my money.


Jacktheforkie

Or there’s no phone signal


Kyla_3049

I'd explain it just by saying "If you open the camera on your phone, point it at the squares and click this button, you'll see the menu on your phone"


CeeMX

Works for iPhone but not every android necessarily has this, even in 2023


bartman2326

**"HOW DO I OPEN THE CAMERA? THESE DANG THINGS ALWAYS GIVE ME SO MUCH TROUBLE, NO GOOD SLAB OF GARBAGE"** "Alright grandma, lemme take a look- grandma this is the TV remote do you even have your phone?" **"WHAAAAT? YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP I DONT HAVE MY HEARING AIDS IN"** "YOU'RE USING THE TV REMOTE GRANDMA" **"NO, I DONT WANT TO WATCH TV, I WANT TO ORDER FOOD. WHAT ARE YOU, STUPID? I TOLD YOUR MOTHER NOT TO LET YOU WATCH THAT SPONGEBOB CARTOON GROWING UP AND NOW LOOK WHAT HAPPENED "**


Sushi-Is-Fiction

Isn’t that a menu in the background on the left of the second photo?


Oaker_at

Probs drinks only


Sushi-Is-Fiction

I’ve been to Texas Roadhouse many times, thats a menu


mikaey00

Two menus for a table of seven.


Catfuzz13

Just ask for more menus?


MaximumDirection2715

They won't have more tablet computers to give you because that's what you'll get


blazinrumraisin

What restaurants require you to ask for a menu? That's like their one job


UnicornTwinkle

I had the exact same situation at my local texas roadhouse. Also that qr wasn’t an option because the cell service there was horrible. I get replacing menus constantly can add to overhead a lot but least put the menu on some 8.5x11 copy paper


Yahir_Garcia

QR code menus are pretty standard, especially after 2020. Clearly they had physical menus and it’s a lot easier for 7 people to just use their phones to see the menu and zoom in.


Nick_pj

The real issue is that they provide an actual touch screen that has a “browse menu” option, which takes you to a QR code rather than a menu (which it could easily do)


Yahir_Garcia

Fair but one little tablet isn’t enough for, say, seven people.


mikaey00

Right...but then just show the QR code on the home screen. If I see a button that says "Browse Menu", I expect it to pull up a menu, not a QR code.


mikaey00

This.


Gulmorg

Two menus + 1 tablet for a table of 7, and you're defending that the qr code is a bad idea even though it's the only way for 7 people to see the menu on your table? Adnittedly it could have just been printed out on a small piece of sticker but still, I don't follow your reasoning. How would you do it? Just put 20 tablets on each table?


SirMy-TDog

Give them seven paper menus like anywhere else. We were at Roadhouse last month and our table of four had four paper menus in the holder. This isn’t rocket science.


Gulmorg

Where I'm from (Turkey) it is the norm to have qr menus everywhere and printed menus are rather rare, but I guess that could be attributed to our shitty economy and the insane inflation that forced places to print out menus every other week so they adapted, but yeah I can see how this isn't a global thing. Still though, I don't really see the issue as long as the qr code just opens up a website with the menu on it, other than it requiring a phone to operate but at this point you need a phone for most anything anyway (which I also hate but that's another topic).


SirMy-TDog

That makes your perspective understandable then; I wasn't aware that it was a thing in your country. In the US, we have QR menus, but they're not really prevalent. At the places around me, we're still all paper menus everywhere.


Squizzy77

I'd sincerely want to go to a place like this. The camera on my piece of crap phone no longer works. I'd kindly ask the manager if I could borrow their phone to see the menu.


Redmanb11_87

How is it so friggin hard for the to upload the damn menu to the tablet in the first place? Shitey restaurant behaviour 😅


iamansonmage

Not hard, but it defeats the purpose! The POINT is to view traffic to their site, add cookies, and track these menu viewers for the rest of time. Using the tablet to view the menu removes that sweet data skimming!


Redmanb11_87

True true, but the absolute cheek of it 😅


Majorllama66

I side with the boomers on this shit. If you wont give me a physical menu at *LEAST* let me see the whole menu from the tablet. I would walk out and go somewhere else if they forced me to scan a QR code to see a menu. I'm tech savvy. I could easily scan the QR code. Its the principle of the matter.


FawnLeib0witz

Exactly. I don't want to scroll though the menu on my phone.


vespertine_glow

That would be my cue to leave.


SmartSherbet

If a restaurant won’t give me a paper menu (or display the menu on a board I can see), I leave. If they make me use a phone to order, I leave. If they make me use a phone to pay after I have eaten, I do it once and never return. I refuse to provide my own equipment for eating out, and I would rather leave my phone at home or in the car than have it out at the table.


Jacktheforkie

I’m in the uk, I physically can’t use my phone for that because there’s never any signal, and most places want you to sign up for Wi-Fi which requires an email


ExeOnLinux

there's no way for them to verify your email because you need internet for that anyway, so you can just use a bullshit address like [email protected]


Jacktheforkie

I needed to click a link to activate it


Jizzipient

>If they make me use a phone to order, I leave. I love restaurants that uses these. * No awkward waist twisting, sweaty pits and chicken wings elbows waving in the air. * Modifiying my meal exactly how I want it, at my own pace. * Not having to rely on someone's memory/handwritting/listening. * I can review the entire order myself at a glance, instead of having my server battle rap my order back to the table. * Know exactly how much my subtotal is. * In some systems, the order gets immediately printed into the kitchen the moment you hit send.


iamansonmage

You have a healthy optimism for technology and my jaded-ass disagrees things will be this smooth! Just wait until the carefully curated order is submitted to the kitchen as HibriIrbf84^{€~€_+{>}^|£\£]*{^.€\€]* or when the option to get No Onions doesn’t work, or when the “allery warning” isn’t conveyed to the back. People make mistakes all the time, but when computers make mistakes they often go unnoticed, unreported and takes forever to fix.


TheSmokingLamp

I will have the spaghetti with a side salad. If the salad is on top, I will send it back.


boileric

What a strange take? I don’t understand this at all. I feel like all of those things make the eating out experience easier, faster and more convenient. What’s the difference in looking at your phone rather than the menu? Its not like the ordering process is part of the social experience of eating out. Once you order you can put your phone away?


SmartSherbet

It’s pretty simple. Having to pull out my phone takes me out of the experience I want to be having and puts me into my own little electronic world. I don’t appreciate being required to do that, so I avoid places that force it on me.


boileric

I just dont understand the difference between looking at a menu on your phone vs a piece of paper. Either way you are looking at something with the restaurant items on it. Once you make your decision you put your phone back in your pocket. I feel like youre just complaining to complain. Whatever tho, you do you, youre just missing out on a lot of great places.


SirMy-TDog

Not the prior poster, but answering anyway. Having to look at my phone takes me out of the communal experience of eating out and when I’m with others and everyone’s on their phones for crap like this it makes for a very isolated and sterile experience. Also, I’m an IT professional and am on my phone all day constantly for work, so when I go out to unwind afterwards I don’t want to see or be involved with the damn thing unless I absolutey have to, and having to look at a menu that the restaurant should just provide as a matter of course isn’t a good reason to engage with it. Also, while hard to believe, the fact is there’s still a significant amount of people who don’t own smartphones or any phone at all even, so what are they supposed to do if there’s no physical menu?


OldBenKenobii

Interesting. I love digital menus, if I didn’t have to talk to another server again I wouldn’t mind at all.


SmartSherbet

Oh I have those days, too. That's when I get takeout. But if I decide to dine in somewhere, it's because I want to be immersed in the setting that place offers. Sometimes it's with dining partners, sometimes it's even alone. In either case, if I have my phone out, then I'm not really present in the setting, and it feels no different than sitting alone at the kitchen table, ordering takeout. If I wanted that experience, I would have gone for takeout instead.


Justin__D

This must be a really weird Texas Roadhouse. I've never been to one that *didn't* give me a paper menu.


magikdyspozytor

WTF is this, this is a TABLET, it can also refresh the menu periodically. Who came up with this?


lotus_spit

If I ever saw something that required a QR code to view something, in this case, in a restaurant, I would immediately leave. I saw one in this sub about a grocery store that requires a FUCKING QR Code just to view the prices of each product. Not everyone has a smartphone or any gadget that has the ability to scan QR codes.


Jacktheforkie

Or the signal to use it


sed_non_extra

Get up & **LEAVE**.


spikeiscool2015

Or… ask for more menus


ChrisKearney3

You can request more menus on their website. Simply scan the QR code for more details.


sed_non_extra

You are a part of the problem.


uhf26

Guess I’m not going back to texas roadhouse. I should not need a device and internet access to decide what food I want. If you wanna be cheap with menus, just paste it on the wall at the entrance. *gets out soap box* And you know what really grinds my gears?? Menus on TV screens! It’s annoying when you’re looking over the menu, you kinda land on an area that interests you, and then it flips to a completely different menu or switches to a full screen product that corporate is trying to push on you! What white collared CEO is pushing this? This just increases the amount of time that I’m in line, slows down everyone else and upsets me and those in line. A menu should not move or have animation.


mikaey00

For those of you who are saying "yeah but there are paper menus, all you had to do was ask for them" or "you're getting old grandpa/ok boomer": * Yes, I am getting old. I hate it. My body hurts and I don't know why. * Yes, there were paper menus. We utilized the paper menus. We were well aware of the fact that we could have asked for more menus if we had needed them. That wasn't the asshole design. The asshole design was the fact that there was a button labelled "BROWSE MENU", but when you tapped on it, it didn't actually show you the menu. Don't lure me in with a button like this, then send me on a scavenger hunt to find the actual menu. I'm hungry, and a move like this just wastes everyone's time. I have no problem with restaurants using QR codes to get people to view the menu on their phone -- but it would have been much better design if they had showed the QR code right on the home screen. You know, maybe in that big huge space they're wasting with gratuitous pictures of their restaurant that are trying to advertise to people *who are already in their restaurant*.


erikkonstas

I mean, there is a menu on the table if I'm seeing correctly, but why even offer the tablet then??? Oh, BTW how much do we bet that the other button works directly through the tablet...?


druule10

As someone who runs a tiny software company this is bad customer service. They only cater for those that know how it works everyone else is left to struggle and then get mad at servers.


vespertine_glow

That's not my problem with it. I don't want another company scraping my data.


druule10

We have these in Amsterdam too. Not very popular but they don't ask for your data, is different where you are?


vespertine_glow

It's my understanding that using a QR code could enable the source to acquire your phone number. Personal identity data acquisition and trading is a serious business in the U.S, and sleazy.


druule10

No, that's not how QR codes work. It's just a barcode and nothing more, no personal information is shared.


mikaey00

On the surface, sure -- your phone isn't automatically sending your personal info to the website when you scan a QR code. The reality is a little more complicated: * You scan the QR code and your phone prompts you to open the website that the QR code links to. * Your browser opens and pulls up said website. * The website has some JavaScript code from a data broker that IDs your device and puts a cookie on your device with that ID. (The code isn't necessarily pulling your personal info, but maybe it's able to pull enough data that they can come up with some ID that's unique to your device.) * It sends that ID back to their servers. The data broker now knows that you've been to Texas Roadhouse and which specific Texas Roadhouse you've been to and when. * The data broker can correlate that info with other info that they've collected from you from similar code on other websites. This info will usually include your name, email address, phone number, things you like to shop for, your browsing habits, etc. * The data broker then makes that data available for sale to others. Next thing I know, I'm getting ads in the mail from nearby steakhouses, online ads for restaurants in my area, etc. This isn't some sort of far-out fantasy -- it's reality. [Last Week Tonight did a piece about this last year.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqn3gR1WTcA) It's scary.


druule10

Well not for me, as we have GDPR and you need consent first.


mikaey00

Yeah…the US is still a lawless wasteland when it comes to data privacy.


druule10

I know, and you guys deserve better. I did hear recently that you guys are heading down the GDPR road.


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druule10

No


vespertine_glow

That's not the complete picture of the QR code based on what I've been reading. Numerous website mention that the code can be used to extract your phone number and possibly email address.


Boundish91

Wtf.


Morston

Does it play Skyrim?


mikaey00

Dunno, but if it did, they would probably charge you $10 to play it.


Unindoctrinated

Ask for a menu. If one isn't provided, inform management that you won't be ordering and that the lack of menu is the only reason why. If enough people did that, this nonsense would go away.


mikaey00

There were menus. It was more the fact that a button labelled "BROWSE MENU" didn't actually bring up the menu.


Unindoctrinated

I've seen numerous posts about restaurants that only provide a menu via QR code.


Vertebrae_Viking

I’d leave. Getting real tired of everything harvesting data, sure as hell ain’t gonna let a god damn menu card do it.


Substantial_Monk_781

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering


Bahlok-Avaritia

Not really the time or the place for this but i agree


Substantial_Monk_781

I'd say needing an electronic device to even order food is very industrialsociety core


MinnieTiger

Take a picture of the code then scan it with their tablet


mikaey00

Can’t, they have the OS locked down pretty well.


a3a4b5

No restaurant security is locked down enough of you're just the right amount of stubborn


mikaey00

Fair, but how much can I do while I’m sitting in the restaurant with no tools?


a3a4b5

In my experience with these exact situations, you fuck around enough to things go your way. It's a long wait anyways, so why not?


grishkaa

I recently managed to get into the Android keyboard settings on one of these. The fun part is that their patches to SystemUI made it impossible to return to the app it's supposed to run because there was neither the navigation bar nor the status bar so it got stuck. The app eventually restarted itself.


ElysianEcho

Anytime i see a qr menu i just leave, i’m not scanning your bs


Educational-Bid-8660

So much for "Legendary Service"


jelly_blood

Texas Roadhouse usually has menus on the table already. Which you don’t need. You already got the delicious free bread. What more do you need son? 🍞


spikeiscool2015

Does your Texas Roadhouse not give you menus? Literally every one I’ve been to gives you menus when they seat you. Just ask for a menu


Murky_Advice

There are physical menus on every table. If you don't have enough, ask your server for more. Why is this even an issue or question or post?


mikaey00

Because if there’s a button that says “Browse the Menu”, I expect it to pull up the menu when I tap it. Showing a QR code when I tap in the button just adds unnecessary steps to the process. Better design would have been to have the QR code on the home screen and not have the button there at all.


North_Anybody_6504

That's crappy design not asshole design there is no malicious intent


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ikilledtupac

It also plants tracking cookies on your phone btw


iburnedmymouthlol

we have a restraint like those


FakeMedea

Would be bad if I just call the waiter and lied about my phone died and make them explain every single menu, its detail and price


themustacheclubbitch

If you really don’t want my business go ahead and keep this up.


hellgatsu

In Italy it s everywhere like this since COVID.


ridethroughlife

My phone is so old that it won't even work with QR codes. Any app I download to try it, just won't register at all.


FirefoxyRosalie

They have a tablet, which means they could show the website or just update the picture when needed And yet they still makes you scan a qr code The stupidity levels are high


crlcan81

There's usually a physical menu for those who are disabled or don't have phones. If they don't have a physical menu they aren't worth going to.


jonmpls

Stupid, but not asshole


jonmpls

This post reeks of "the world is changing and I'm mad about it" boomer energy


Glittering_Glass3790

excellent solution: just leave


[deleted]

Probably because they skimped on the tablets they use and using them to view the menu would piss people off even more than this crap!


iamansonmage

Ask for a paper menu. 🤷‍♂️


IllustriousCookie890

Time to just leave and kindly mention the reason on the way OUT.


DiodeInc

What's the point of even having a tablet then?


mikaey00

To let you pay without bothering the server.


SirMy-TDog

And that part’s ok; I love paying via the tablet and not having to wait. But I’m with you about the Menu button. It’s just stupid and overtly customer unfriendly.


DiodeInc

Well, that makes sense


kentenma

I thought QR codes died like 10 years ago. Why are they back suddenly?


ObserverAtLarge

COVID era.


MaximusMMIV

I won’t eat at a restaurant that won’t take the tablet off of the table and won’t provide me a menu. Period. I’m not here to serve myself. I can do that at home. I’m paying a premium for food and service, and that’s what has to be provided.


Tangurena

My phone's camera lens has a crack in it. QR codes are unscannable.


Amoobius

why isint the menu on the tablet?