Ask them why they want to kill you. Explain that you have a bone marrow disease and without regular blood transfusions you will die. Ask them to explain like you're 5.
Former JW here. This is a good one but they'll probably pivot to God curing all disease or something.
Do a quick search for "Jehovah's Witness child abuse" and start reading off article titles and ask them to explain.
Ask if all those stories are all apostate lies? (They're told all negative things said about the cult are lies from Satan)
If they say some are true ask which ones are true? Ask if they'd read those stories or look at the court rulings. (They won't)
Ask if the JW leadership has ever apologized to victims? (They haven't)
If they say it's a perfect organization run by imperfect men (the Mormons say a similar line) ask them what things specifically make it imperfect? What is wrong with the religion? List a few specific things that they personally don't like or agree with. They won't have a response. Tell them they can come back and talk about it when they've thought of some criticisms for their religion or its leadership. That won't happen, they literally feel like saying anything negative about their leaders is worse than blasphemy.
That should thoroughly drive them off, and maybe get them to think a little about their cult.
Nice! If laughing in their face fails.. I'm using this.
Hey isn't there a word for ex JWs that if you use it, they like, have to immediately stop talking to you? I might be thinking of a different magic cult..
Just tell any JW you are an apostate and most will never come back. Apostates are considered worse than dead because they have committed the unforgivable sin by speaking against Jehovah
Awesome, thanks. Someone needs to cross stitch a religious looking piece that has all the words like Apostate.. I'd put that next to my front door as reminder! hahaha.
Being rude can keep them away, but they're told to keep trying in case someone else lives there, or you suffered some tragedy that they can try to take advantage of to get you to join the cult, so rude or not someone else will probably be back in the future unless you're really, really rude to them.
An easier method is to say you're a former JW and an apostate.
Apostate is the scary word. It means someone who left their cult but to believing members it's basically someone who is pure evil and a minion of the devil whose sole mission is to attack JWs, and they're told not to listen to anything apostates say because even just a little could make them lose their faith and die at Armageddon. This is the top tier scary category. There's literally nothing they harp on more than how evil and scary apostates are and how important it is to avoid them at all costs.
If you want them to believe you, you need to know the lingo.
Saying you're disfellowshipped means you got kicked out. They're supposed to shun anyone who was DFed, basically pretending they're invisible. A disfellowshipped person may or may not be an apostate. Some still believe and are trying to get back into the cult.
For maximum scary potential be nice, offer them a drink or something, then tell them you were DFed and are an apostate now. Ask them if they'd be willing to discuss what constitutes a cult, or the various child abuse scandals the JWs have been in the news for. They'll probably be turned and running down the sidewalk before you finish your sentence.
The other simpler and probably less fun thing to do is to say you want to be added to their do not call list. They're supposed to write down your address and avoid knocking.
Maybe start with the do not call, then mention that you're a DFed apostate for good measure. Then sit back and watch them scurry away!
If you want to get on that list sooner you can request a visit on their website. Wait for them to come around and then do the above. You'll waste their time and save yourself future headaches.
The long-term investment portfolio is another good thing to bring up. Watchtower keeps telling them armageddon is coming but obviously they aren't worried about that affecting their 20-year portfolios.
Totally worked. If you walk up our garden path you can see into our kitchen. My husband was washing the dishes, starkers. The 2 JWs hesitated, and turned around. Never bothered us again. He's a very tall, very soundly built man, so the willy bits were in plain view. I have a tiny granule of sympathy for the woman, as no one really wants a surprise willy sighting, BUT also don't come to people's doors unexpected, or you'll have to reconcile with people living their best lives in the freedom of their own homes.
Did this back in the day. They knocked on my door every Saturday morning for a month after I politely declined their booklets until I opened the door completely nude.
I just don't answer the door these days. But I really want to do this. "I'd love to talk about your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Come in. I'm a nudist, so I'm gonna get comfortable."
I've heard that if you tell them you're an ex-JW, they leave you alone. Another person suggested putting a mezuzah on your door because they don't try to convert Jews.
Former JW here. The second part isn't true. They'll try to convert anyone that will listen, although they're more scared of witchy people because they're very superstitious.
Tell them you want to be put on their do not call list. They're supposed to note anyone that specifically says not to come back.
They're in a cult, so being rude or mean reinforces their cult programming of the world being evil and satanic. Be nice if you can, but be firm and clear you don't want them coming back or they'll take polite disinterest as an invitation to keep returning.
I follow a few ex-JWs on Twitter and remember them saying that brining up issues like shunning made them uncomfortable as well.
Is that, along with claiming to be apostate, an effective strategy?
Shunning and those sort of doctrinal issues have canned responses ready to go. To effectively debate a JW or even try to stump them requires a good understanding of their doctrine and literature which is probably a waste of time for most people. If you want to, by all means, jwfacts.com has everything needed to tear the religion to shreds. Once you have a good grasp of some issues it's fun to debate cultists and see if you can trap them in a logical argument. However for someone that's never been in arguing doctrine puts you at a disadvantage. They know how to avoid answering questions or give nice sounding responses that don't align with what the cult actually believes. For instance most JWs think at Armageddon (which could come next week) that God will examine people's hearts and only murder the evil ones. I thought that's what they believed when I was in too. Nope. According to their own publications anyone not baptized dies, including babies. If you're not a baby of a JW you're fucking toast. God is going to murder 99.9% of the human population, according to their official church writings. It's just phrased in a way that most JWs don't realize that. But proving that to them from their publications requires references you won't easily have in hand. Seeing that in print was a huge part of accepting it was a cult, but it's not an easy thing to prove as a nonJW who doesn't know the history of changes to their doctrine and how they treat old publications.
Apostasy is basically the scariest thing to JWs. If you mention you are an apostate, that you were disfellowshipped, they will run away scared.
Super helpful, thank you for the insights!
>Apostasy is basically the scariest thing to JWs. If you mention you are an apostate, that you were disfellowshipped, they will run away scared.
Good to know - will definitely use this in the future.
They won't accept them but you can try! It's not a bad idea. Other exJWs have done that and made stickers with QR codes and stuck them to poles near where they set up their carts. The stickers are basically magic wards that will keep them away. 😂
So, what does it mean if a musician uses devil references or upside down crosses, or pentagrams to sell their music? That seems to be ok in most people’s eyes, but is that not the same thing? (And, no, most musicians who put on a show that has satanic or other religious refernaces are not necessarily “into” that thing. It’s just part of the show)
While it can be seen as disrespectful, it is very different than the scenario at hand with Judaism, as Jews have been a heavily persecuted minority group, and disrespect toward Jews is often accompanied by anti-semitic violence, and have been associated with and is reminiscent of such.
Judaism is not the only sect to be persecuted. Pagans and Islamic people have suffered terribly too. They are just two out of how many groups through history that have had absolutely horrific things done to them as well. It seems through your comment, "well it can be seen as disrespectful, it is very different than the scenario at hand with Judaism" isolates Judaism as a special case to not be appropriated. If you are going to stand up about appropriation maybe not try make it seems like Judaism is the only. Things don't get solved when we leave others out. A lot of belief systems have been left behind and abandoned because of the abuse they have suffered. People of different followings get plenty of sideways looks and suffer violence as well today. We just don't get make note of it as much because everything things seems smaller with the events of WW2 so close to our time today. The same with Sept. 11th. The comment made asking about pentagrams and upsidedown crosses should not be be belittled just because you might know little to nothing about their histories, which is how your response makes it sound. This is one of the issues I have with religions and their cultures. Everyone thinks theirs is so special or more important. They discount others experiences. I knew this lovely man whom was Hindu, and the way people would treat him was atrocious. I think he ended up having to leave because of it. Things was he wasn't the only person of his culture that suffered this.
I wasn’t talking about Judaism in relation to Islam or Pagan religions, but rather in relation to Christianity. Also, Judaism is an ethnicity, and as such cultural appropriation would be more applicable more to it in comparison to religions that are not also ethnicities, at least as we talk about it in a somewhat modern context. Also evidently it has been the case that Judaism is very often appropriated in todays day and age (ex. Messianics, Trisha Paytas, Jewface)
As a cultural Jew, I would care. Although it might be victimless, it is still disrespectful. This is an extreme example, but spiting on someone’s grave when no one is watching is also disrespectful, do you think that is wrong when it is technically a victimless act?
I guess there are simply fundamentally different ways to view morality, and the way that you are positing is one that views morality simply on a basis of who an action hurts or not. So I guess we agree to disagree. Have a nice day!
Exjw here. If you have a pride flag out they'll probably avoid your house. They might be homophobic but they're also scared to actually be blatant about it or actually tell that to someone's face. They're not the Westboro Baptists.
If you want a really fun time don't give any sign that you're gay, invite them in, get them some drinks, be chill, then mention your girlfriend/wife/partner and watch them squirm. Then mention witchy stuff or take out a tarot deck and they will dive out the nearest window. They'll probably never come back.
Little things like signs, door mat message etc are cool ideas just to fuck with them. I ain't letting strangers inside the house though lol no matter how creative I may be feeling that day hahah.
Jokes aside, probably the most efficient way to get rid of them for good is to make noise to be added on some do-not-disturb list.
If you want to put out signs and stuff make sure they're really obvious because most JWs are as observant and self aware as a potato.
I mentioned above but if you specifically say you don't want them to come back they're supposed to write down your address and not come back. Make sure you say you want to be added to their do not call list.
My old roommate had this big lab (rip buster) and every time a jw or any other religious solicitor would know, the dog would bark at them. He sounded aggressive but he just wanted to play.
I've tried multiple things with mixed results. I used to live 2 blocks from a Kingdom Hall and was harassed weekly (really sucks when it happens late morning on your only day off EVERY week).
No soliciting signs everywhere--"We're not soliciting." No joy.
An elaborate and strictly spooky Halloween yard--I think it attracted them.
Answering the door half-naked with a parrot on my shoulder--chased politicians off, but hardly fazed the JWs.
Calling the Kingdom Hall and demanding they lay the fuck off--at the first home this had no effect whatsoever, and we were thrilled to get transferred to another state.
When I got my first visit at our current home, I startled the (quite) elderly woman in the group bellowing through the Ring doorbell. Informed them they'd ignored 3 no soliciting signs to bother me--including 2 that specifically mention religion--and told them to bugger off and never come back.
I then called the Kingdom Hall and left a message. Someone actually called back, and actually listened when I said I've been harassed by their people too much of my adult life and was utterly fed up with it. They would never get me, so stop wasting your time and go bother somebody who gives a fuck.
I mentioned having had a retired JW minister as a landlord in college, who thought nothing of interrupting my studies to proselytize, and the hours I lost making him leave. That their strongarm tactics and harassment have made me loathe them.
He said he'd put me on the Do Not Disturb list, and I haven't seen any since. Which part of the convo did the trick? I dunno, but it was peppered heavily with F-bombs and parrot squawks.
If I were in your situation, I'd find out when their services are held, then bang on their temple doors 20 minutes after they start until someone comes and answers them. "Hi! Do you have a few minutes to talk about the marvel cinematic universe? There really great, I think you'd find them inspirational! Also, I'm going to come back and try again every time you visit my home without an invitation. See you again in two weeks! "
That would have been sort of fun in the old house where nothing got them to stop. Except for a couple of things:
\- I got ONE day off each week, and it wasn't the day of their services. And if the weekly interruptions of my life killed my day, that would have taken much longer. Frankly, every minute of that day was to be cherished and enjoyed, which is largely why it pissed me off so much.
\- And I have social anxiety. I like my quiet home and don't like leaving it. It often takes everything I have to just run errands.
\- That anxiety is one more reason it's annoying AF to have strangers trying to invade my safe space at home.
You could also put a rainbow pentagram sicker on your front door. Preferably "point down" instead of up for extra spooky connotations. ;)
I'm normally pretty introverted, but the more I bottle up annoyance, the more spectacularly it erupts. I've screamed at a roomful of 80+ terrible chorus singers for being terrible neighbors. Which was apparently just enough for them to finally fire their absolutely terrible director, and his annoying bullhorn.
The group was more considerate after they dumped him. :)
Declare yourself as an apostate. Literally, "I am an Apostate."
Jehovah's Witnesses seem to take this to mean that you've not only rejected God but are actively working for Satan, sacrificing virgins, eating babies, etc.
Honestly, I'm not sure what their internal discourse is on this, but it seems to really freak them out. Like, cross the street when they see you and probably pray for protection.
Honestly, you could have nice mainstream Christian chants (that old
"Chant" album doesn't suck)... as long as a pentagram, or a goat head, or whatever, is in view. No need to get anyone else roped into the drama.
No soliciting signs don't work, since courts don't recognize religious harassment as soliciting. You will need a no-proselytizing sign, although they will likely ignore it.
I understand that if you tell them you were "disfellowshipped" prior to your moving to your present home, they will avoid you like the plague. In the JW world, such means that someone is to be ostracized mercilessly and NOT to be socialized with, even if they are a family member.
By so informing them, that should resolve your problem. Google it for more information.
My favorite response to JWs was from an older man (I wish I could find his write-up, but here's my recollection).
This fellow was a large, hairy fellow with big bushy eyebrows, and was very rumpled as he had just woken up. He answered the door without saying anything, just stared from under his eyebrows at the two JWs.
They were taken back, and visibly uncomfortable, and he decided to play it up. He stuck out his hand and said mechanically: "I-will-take-your-lit-er-at-ure-and-give-it-to-my-master"
They looked at him, at his outstretched hand, and fled.
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I'm just here to say appreciate the usage of the world fortnight.
I had some luck ranting to them about norse gods and taking over the conversation so they can't say anything. They weren't as often as they were for you though maybe once every 2 months.
I had a couple visit recently. I was polite, but explained right away that I was an Atheist and a Pastafarian. When they asked what a Pastafarian was, I explained it. In exceptional detail, until they got tired of listening and left. They haven't been back.
Former ‘dub here. Haven’t taken the time to read all the comments, so my apologies if I’m repeating what’s already been said.
It’s important to understand that JW’s are a cult/high control group that actively engages in mind control techniques to keep their members compliant and believing.
If you’re hoping to plant some seeds of doubt with the goal of eventually waking some of them up from their indoctrination, it’s a good idea to get a basic understanding of how cults operate. I recommend reading up on the BITE model by Steve Hassan. (Also a ton of good videos on YT discussing the topic)
A simple place to start might be addressing phobia indoctrination. You could mention something to the effect of how similar they appear to Mormons. And that you read about how mormons suffer all kinds of fears about possibly leaving their group. That it spells doom for their eternal futures, as well as all sorts of terrible things happening to them in this life by not being within the safety of their organization. They even share sad stories about those who left and how their lives fell apart for it. They’re also extremely fearful of reading anything that’s critical of their religion. That ex-members who speak openly against the problems in the church are under the influence of the devil!
And then add that many ex-mormons have realized those fears were *instilled* in them from a young age, in the efforts of keeping them from ever questioning their religion. That it’s called “phobia indoctrination”.
Then you could ask: “what fears do you have about leaving your religion?… What do you think would happen if you ever left?… Where do you think you got those extreme fears from? God? Or the organization? What are the leaders trying to hide?
Call the local kingdom hall and tell them to put you on their do not call list. Put up no soliciting signs. I called and screamed and reminded them of the stand your ground laws in my state and told them about my PTSD and 6 dogs. They never came by again. Acting crazy seems to work.
My mom had this same problem, she put up a sign on her front door that says something like "No solicitation of religion or products" and they never knocked again
Tell them you've learned quite a bit about their religion from watching their leader Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the Australian Royal Commission case study 29. They will never be back.
There are only two things you can do that will work.
1) Say "Put me on your Do Not Call list." 99% effective.
2) Say either "I'm disfellowshipped" or "I'm an apostate." 100% effective for a good 5 years before they might come back to see if you've moved.
Anything else -- gay stuff, naked stuff, devil stuff, signs -- will either be ignored or viewed as a challenge by some.
There's the fact they protect rapists and child molesters. They spent thousands a day in US refusing to hand over records of sexual assault their members committed.
JW's divide their area of influence into territories and break those territories down into workable door to door cards. The cards are like small maps that may show streets and house numbers. This where your complaint comes in. On the back of those "maps" there is a "Do Not Call" section. Get them to put your address there. They sometime ignore the "Do Not Call" by justifying that "Maybe that person has moved away and someone different now lives at that address. So you see they won't stop. Put your foot down. Make a scene. Scream and shout but whatever you do DO NOT TALK TO THEM!
My philosophy teacher used to let them in but tell them that he had a lot of stuff to do. He would then ask them to help do his dishes, fold his laundry, etc. Not sure if it was entirely true or if he just wanted to make the class laugh though.
"I am, what I believe you might call, an apostate who is actively seeking any legal means to eliminate your evil organization for its policies to protect abusers of children and sex abusers"
There's no point trying to reason with them on any details unless you know something beyond the basics of their religion's beliefs and how their organization operates.
Once somebody asked this somebody said to tell them you were disfellowshipped or excommunicated. I forget the terminology but they won’t have anything to do with you then.
A few decades ago they parked in front of my yard. I had a demonic t-shirt and was getting warm mowing so I stopped long enough to remove my shirt and carefully draped it over the fence facing the vehicle. When they came back after harassing my neighbors they quickly, quietly, got in their car and drove off. I felt gleefully shunned!
They haven't come back since, but I have Baphomet flags hanging from various yard signs and rainbow flags in the windows just in case.
The ammo I use comes from real life: a JW high school student came to live with me years ago because her JW father was molesting her and her brother and sister, while JW mom turned a blind eye. The JW organization sent a JW lawyer to try to force CPS to move the kid back home. The JW elders told her to forgive her father (who admitted his crimes but did not apologize and was not prosecuted) because his acts were just based on “body chemistry.” The JWs shunned the kid when she refused to live with her abusive father. There are tens of thousands of stories like this. The folks who knock on your door generally prefer not to acknowledge them.
As a former JW, I can tell you there are some easy ways to do it:
1. Simply ask to be put on the "Do Not Call" list. Use the following specific phrase, most of the males will be familiar with it since they use it themselves: "Your implied invitation to knock on my door is revoked". This is the phrase they use to kick people out of their churches, and the males are told to use it as they believe it has legal force.
2. Tell them you're an apostate. They are trained to believe apostates are from the Devil.
3. Ask for their address and tell them you want to come to their home to preach atheism.
4. Answer the door naked. Don't laugh. It's happened to me several times, and I immediately put them on the "do not call" list. Obviously I'm half joking here, but it really has happened to me several times. I was once preaching with an old woman when I was about 14. We encountered a naked dude answering the door. She looked at it, and slowly looked up, and asked "Is your mommy home?"
5. If you are feeling particularly adventurous, you might challenge them. Tell them you watched some documentary about how Watchtower tried to appease Hitler by falsely asserting they denied entry to the religion to Jewish people. It's called the "Declaration of Facts". Tell them you saw a documentary about their global child sex abuse issue. Remind them that there are 1,700 sex offenders in a population of 65,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia, and not one was reported to the Police.
6. Or - you could simply not answer the door. They will lurk for a while, because most of them are doing their mandatory service and absolutely hate it, so they use "not-at-homes" as an excuse for hanging out and chatting with their friends.
I've just had a thought. Have you answered the door at any point in the last few months? The only reason for fortnightly visits woukd be a) they visit everyone that often in your area b) they think you are friendly and are happy to have them back for a chat or c) you didnt answer the first time they called and they think your house is a "not at home" and are knocking again and again until they meet someone at which point they will not come again until they start visiting everyone in that area a few months or so later.
Just put up a “No Soliciting” sign. If they still come to the door, point at the sign and look at them as if you’re questioning whether or not they can read.
Tell them, clearly and loudly to fuck off and that one more knock at your door will be considered harrasment. Be big and as scary as you can. Tell them you don't believe in any of their bullshit, but if there is a hell, may they burn in it.
I have a sign that states if you knock on the door to be soliciting or chat about religion then your agreeing to the terms to pay 50$ per minute it is payable in advance
Mormons come to my neighbor all the time but avoid my apartment everytime lol its perfect got it on Amazon if you want to try it
Tell them you deny the existence of the holy spirit, that was what I did the last time they came to my house. Fun facts: JW founder C.T. Russell sold "Miracle Wheat", claiming it would grow 5 times as much as other types of wheat. He was later sued over this and lost. Russell's successor, Judge Rutherford, had his followers pay for a mansion (Beth Sarim) to be built in San Diego, ostensibly to house soon-to-return Biblical characters. There are a ton of other scams and scandals in the cult's history. If you can find it, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" is a very good book about them.
"I am an apostate - I once was JW and renounced it"
from what I've been told, if you say something to that extent, their religion then requires that they NOT talk to you anymore. (like excommunication)
Don't know how true that is, though.
Either way, yeah, post no soliciting, and then you can call the cops on them for harassment and trespass.
If that didn't work, personally I'd answer the door (I have a Ring doorbell, so I'd know who was there) simply calmly holding my shotgun. And tell them that they are on private property and "I suggest that you leave" -- but no overt (illegal) threats. Just a man legally standing on his property with a legal weapon having a calm conversation.
I don't fck around with people who harass me on my own property.
I agree that illegal harassment of a person on their own private property is horrible behavior.
I disagree that legally owning private property (my house, my gun) is horrible behavior.
I would agree that if you threatened someone, that would be illegal and horrible. I have explicitly advocated AGAINST that.
I respect privacy and private property. The law respects it. Society respects it.
Perhaps you don't.
You've been down 👎 voted for a reason.
The simple truth..is just bc you can doesn't mean you should..
Nobody is probably objecting to your gun ownership ---just you menacing with it to handle someone knocking on your door.
if you don't have any facts about them, then why dont you want them at your door exactly? Surely there's no harm in having a chat with a fellow human being. You've done it here online, why not in person?
My issue is not having a chat. My issue is them trying to save me from a nonexistent threat. My issue is opening my door to strangers whom I don't know the intentions of. You could even say I'm trying to be neighbourly, and informing them not to waste their time on me, allowing them to attempt to convert others with a higher efficiency than dealing with me. I live in a rough area, I don't want people snooping around my flat. The asking for Information about them might be a tad much, but if I did open my door for them to attempt to convert me, and these teachings of theirs do not align with my philosophical or ethical beliefs, then the time has been wasted on both our parts, and nothing has been achieved. At least of I ask here, I am sure there are others who understand my concerns, and will give me something to point out, to help convince them to leave me be.
I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to answer you on that one. They have to go up some outside steps to get to my flat, and there's 10 flats to pick and choose. I know my neighbour works night shifts, so if they do knock on his door at the same time as mine, I pity the bastard. But after they leave me, I get on with my day, and phase out outside noise
Wish you could send them my way. I love when perfect strangers knock on my door and, in effect, say "hey, let's discuss theology". JWs don't last very long. Mormons usually stick around, but it's hit or miss with them. Evangelicals are tenacious.
draw a chalk outline by your door, and scatter a few watch tower pamphlets around it.
Put up some yellow tape for effect.
add a no soliciting sign for intent.
Prominently display a Rainbow flag/sticker, or . . . really [up the ante](https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/06/mormon-missionaries-walk-away-from-lesbian-couples-gayest-doormat-17310127/)
(Though I don't know if that would work as well on JWs as it apparently does on Mormons.)
If that kept happening to me after I told them I wasn’t interested I would have the discussion with them and not hold back any criticism, scrutiny or mockery
Tell them that you have some people coming over for an orgy and they're welcome to try and convince every one there, but they have to get naked and participate.
Worked for my step-father in the 80s, we were never bothered by them again.
>I'd like to have some ammunition of they ask for it
[wikipedia: Unfulfilled Watch Tower Society predictions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions)
I used to let them talk for about 10 minutes then tell them I'm an atheist. I mean they just keep on rumbling about god this and god that so let them have their say while you try to solve a puzzle in your mind... Last time that happened was about 5 years ago when I got the "So you let us talk for all this time without saying anything?" I smiled and said "Yup, anyhow have a nice day, thanks for trying." And closed my door.
I live 50M from the local multi-congregation JW Hall I have managed to get myself on their do not knock list. Prior to this all I said repeatedly was "Fuck off - I have enough gods already" they still do my neighbours but the Ring doorbells seem a good way of handling them.
My husband's story, not mine...
The drunken ex-bf had left, so he was doing a cleansing ritual sweeping the negative energy out of the flat with a besom broom the black kitten followed along sweeping from the first floor flat down to the ground floor (it was once an 1885 house) opening the front door wearing a black hooded towing bathrobe to push the energy out holding the penis carved in the broom handle and there were two JW ladies standing in the door arch I'm told they blanched and turned around up the alley the house is on.
Honestly the best advice is to either A: don’t answer the door when they come knocking, or B: out-inform them and shame them into oblivion by not only knowing about everything they bring up, but knowing more than they do.
Next best option would be to spook them off. My mother did a mix of B and this option, when I was about 16 or so. Me and my sister were going to a Halloween party and I had answered the door dressed up in my costume (classic ninja getup), and they were flabbergasted with the “level of debauchery and ignorance” my family was showcasing. Enter my mother, who looked at them once and somehow knew what religion they were before they set foot on the doorstep AND INVITED THEM IN. That confused me later, but now I see what game she was playing here. They tried to tell her about the evils of pagan holidays, and she pulled option B out of her hat and played that Uno Reverse card with the skill of a cardsharp from Las Vegas. She educated THEM about the history of Halloween and Christmas and Easter, and how out of all of them, Halloween was actually the closest holiday that Christianity could lay claim to being responsible for making. (Technically it’s All Saints’ Day and All Hallows Eve, Halloween was a modern adaptation of the Gaelic Samhain celebration that rapidly expanded and became popular across the country, and the rest is history)
They started getting extremely uncomfortable with trying to explain their way being the right way when they realized they were up against somebody who not only knew the origins of Halloween, but knew the origins of Christmas and Easter too, and knew all about the origins of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. They were fighting a fight against someone who had all the cards. They were playing a rigged game and they were not the ones who rigged it.
They rapidly, hurriedly tried to nobly escape the trap that they willingly walked into, with as much dignity as they could possibly salvage. They failed to salvage Jack Shit. We haven’t seen a single Jehovah’s Witness since.
Can I suggest the following?
Pick anything from these videos that catches your eye. You may very well find some information here that the JWs get wrong:
[https://www.youtube.com/@SansDeity/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@SansDeity/videos)
I once worked with a Jewish lady who had the same issues with the damn jehovahs witnesses. I'll give it to all the Jewish people I've met because they have a sense of humor often lacking in most religions. She invited them in, and she had made pamphlets ahead of time for them and just made them sit through her whole speech. They were there close to an hour. They never came back again.
Read their holy text. Invite them into your home and ask them really uncomfortable questions about the moral dubiousness of it as well as the contradictions. Ask if you can come to their church and discuss these things with other members
Ask them why if the small number of "saved" people who are going to heaven has been reached (I believe they say it is 144,000), why are they trying to recruit more?
I’ve politely told them they’re talking to someone who has had blood transfusions to save my life because otherwise I would have died, and that their religion would rather my kids grew up motherless, which seems cruel and not loving.
My MIL used to get them to help weed her property while SHE would try to convert them to Catholicism.
ftr I think most religions suck. I am ordained to perform marriages for The Church of Bacon, who has similar tenets as The Satanic Temple (which I plan on joining too… scratch that. I just joined.)
Next time tell them to put you on the do not call list. Although they are still encouraged to make sure you still want to be on it annually.
So step two, put a sign on the door that calls them out directly. You can make it polite. You could even mention the the incorrect address.
The only people they will avoid like the plague are ex-jws and those that have anti-jw facts. You won't get anywhere with doctrinal arguments.
Leah Remi did a two part expose on them like she did multiple episode in Scientology. Check on utube.
Or you could simply install an upside down crucifix as a door knocker and thereby stop all religious visits....🤔
Tell them you are disfellowshipped and to remove your address from the territory card.
It may not be called a territory card in the digital age, but being disfellowshipped means they can't talk to you. I haven't had one at my door for years. Been disfellowshipped since 1990.
Why is nobody mentioning filing a harassment claim with the police? Next time they come, get their names, ask where they are from, and let them know you are calling the police because they are harassing you.
Just tell them you are an apostate. Don't tell them from what. Just apostate. JWs shun apostates, they aren't even going to risk finding out more.
It works. I was working in my garage one day when I saw a couple of JW men working the street. They spotted me and veered from the sidewalk towards the driveway and the open garage door. I hollered out "Sorry guys, I'm an apostate." The guy in front said "Ok then, have a nice day" and turned to leave. By the time he said that the other guy had scurried back down the driveway to the safety of the street, like he was afraid to get some apostasy on him or something. I had a hard time not laughing at him running away. My wife saw it from inside and came out to the garage laughing and wondering what I had said.
If you really want to have fun tell them you are an apostate and that you joined the Mormons. They'll GTFO fast.
Ask about the 2 witness rule and how it allows rampant pedophilia in many of their Halls(houses of worship)
In fact i believe it was Canada where a major Hall had failed to meet legal requirements of reporting when memebers report to the "clergy"
Ask about Banishment and LGBTQ people.
My Nan mentioned JWs the other day, apparently when she moved into her current house they kept bothering her. One day she just told them the true story of how blood transfusions saved the life of one of her children, adding something to effect of "If you are against that then you are wicked and you are evil and you disgust me". They haven't come back in the 10 years since. I think they keep records of where their congregation has visited and once they blacklist you they don't come back.
Or you could just not answer the door.
I used to play Marilyn Manson on full blast when they would come through our neighbourhood. They learned not to bother knocking on my door. Hail Satan!
I have had good success by saying Sure! will be happy, happy! to share! Let me go first! Come on in while I get my drum and we can do some tribal songs together!
Wow, I've been hoping to get some one to sing and dance with!
They leave pretty fast. The elders warn the youngsters to beware and not come back.
When they knock on the door say you used to be a Jehovah's witness. Apparently current members aren't allowed to speak to former members similar to scientology, except they don't harass you, they just won't speak with you
Ask them if they believe Jesus is God, they’ll say no because they don’t believe that, and you can then say sorry I’m a Christian, and I believe Jesus is God, and they’ll never come back. We did that at our house lol. Lying for a good cause😂
Ask them why they want to kill you. Explain that you have a bone marrow disease and without regular blood transfusions you will die. Ask them to explain like you're 5.
Former JW here. This is a good one but they'll probably pivot to God curing all disease or something. Do a quick search for "Jehovah's Witness child abuse" and start reading off article titles and ask them to explain. Ask if all those stories are all apostate lies? (They're told all negative things said about the cult are lies from Satan) If they say some are true ask which ones are true? Ask if they'd read those stories or look at the court rulings. (They won't) Ask if the JW leadership has ever apologized to victims? (They haven't) If they say it's a perfect organization run by imperfect men (the Mormons say a similar line) ask them what things specifically make it imperfect? What is wrong with the religion? List a few specific things that they personally don't like or agree with. They won't have a response. Tell them they can come back and talk about it when they've thought of some criticisms for their religion or its leadership. That won't happen, they literally feel like saying anything negative about their leaders is worse than blasphemy. That should thoroughly drive them off, and maybe get them to think a little about their cult.
Nice! If laughing in their face fails.. I'm using this. Hey isn't there a word for ex JWs that if you use it, they like, have to immediately stop talking to you? I might be thinking of a different magic cult..
Just tell any JW you are an apostate and most will never come back. Apostates are considered worse than dead because they have committed the unforgivable sin by speaking against Jehovah
Awesome, thanks. Someone needs to cross stitch a religious looking piece that has all the words like Apostate.. I'd put that next to my front door as reminder! hahaha.
If you play the apostate card, please try and get a video of their reaction. Sounds like it would be hilarious.
Being rude can keep them away, but they're told to keep trying in case someone else lives there, or you suffered some tragedy that they can try to take advantage of to get you to join the cult, so rude or not someone else will probably be back in the future unless you're really, really rude to them. An easier method is to say you're a former JW and an apostate. Apostate is the scary word. It means someone who left their cult but to believing members it's basically someone who is pure evil and a minion of the devil whose sole mission is to attack JWs, and they're told not to listen to anything apostates say because even just a little could make them lose their faith and die at Armageddon. This is the top tier scary category. There's literally nothing they harp on more than how evil and scary apostates are and how important it is to avoid them at all costs. If you want them to believe you, you need to know the lingo. Saying you're disfellowshipped means you got kicked out. They're supposed to shun anyone who was DFed, basically pretending they're invisible. A disfellowshipped person may or may not be an apostate. Some still believe and are trying to get back into the cult. For maximum scary potential be nice, offer them a drink or something, then tell them you were DFed and are an apostate now. Ask them if they'd be willing to discuss what constitutes a cult, or the various child abuse scandals the JWs have been in the news for. They'll probably be turned and running down the sidewalk before you finish your sentence. The other simpler and probably less fun thing to do is to say you want to be added to their do not call list. They're supposed to write down your address and avoid knocking. Maybe start with the do not call, then mention that you're a DFed apostate for good measure. Then sit back and watch them scurry away! If you want to get on that list sooner you can request a visit on their website. Wait for them to come around and then do the above. You'll waste their time and save yourself future headaches.
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I just pointed my speakers toward the window and started blasting "Seasons in the Abyss" by Slayer. They walked right by and never came back.
See…the religious nut jobs miss out on all the great music!
Pantera's Cowboys From Hell works too.
Hahahaha.
The long-term investment portfolio is another good thing to bring up. Watchtower keeps telling them armageddon is coming but obviously they aren't worried about that affecting their 20-year portfolios.
Answer the door naked or mostly naked.
Totally worked. If you walk up our garden path you can see into our kitchen. My husband was washing the dishes, starkers. The 2 JWs hesitated, and turned around. Never bothered us again. He's a very tall, very soundly built man, so the willy bits were in plain view. I have a tiny granule of sympathy for the woman, as no one really wants a surprise willy sighting, BUT also don't come to people's doors unexpected, or you'll have to reconcile with people living their best lives in the freedom of their own homes.
Bonus upvote for "living their best lives". That just sounds awesome. :O)
Those wild willy bits will get you every time!
Mostly naked, except for the ball gag and gimp mask.
"You're early! The orgy does not start for another hour, would you help me finish washing the dildos and anal beads before everyone else arrives?".
yes, it actually works here in WV. My friend does it all the time. Mormons dont come to the door anymore either.
Did this back in the day. They knocked on my door every Saturday morning for a month after I politely declined their booklets until I opened the door completely nude.
The correct answer.
I just don't answer the door these days. But I really want to do this. "I'd love to talk about your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Come in. I'm a nudist, so I'm gonna get comfortable."
Answer the door with an adult beverage in hand.
My uncle did that they avoided the house ever since
This will do.
And invite them to the Black Sabbat currently happening in the back yard....
I've done that. It works 💯 %!
This worked for me - just answered the door in my boxers and they left very quickly.
This was my first thought!
With a shotgun.
I've heard that if you tell them you're an ex-JW, they leave you alone. Another person suggested putting a mezuzah on your door because they don't try to convert Jews.
Former JW here. The second part isn't true. They'll try to convert anyone that will listen, although they're more scared of witchy people because they're very superstitious. Tell them you want to be put on their do not call list. They're supposed to note anyone that specifically says not to come back. They're in a cult, so being rude or mean reinforces their cult programming of the world being evil and satanic. Be nice if you can, but be firm and clear you don't want them coming back or they'll take polite disinterest as an invitation to keep returning.
I follow a few ex-JWs on Twitter and remember them saying that brining up issues like shunning made them uncomfortable as well. Is that, along with claiming to be apostate, an effective strategy?
Shunning and those sort of doctrinal issues have canned responses ready to go. To effectively debate a JW or even try to stump them requires a good understanding of their doctrine and literature which is probably a waste of time for most people. If you want to, by all means, jwfacts.com has everything needed to tear the religion to shreds. Once you have a good grasp of some issues it's fun to debate cultists and see if you can trap them in a logical argument. However for someone that's never been in arguing doctrine puts you at a disadvantage. They know how to avoid answering questions or give nice sounding responses that don't align with what the cult actually believes. For instance most JWs think at Armageddon (which could come next week) that God will examine people's hearts and only murder the evil ones. I thought that's what they believed when I was in too. Nope. According to their own publications anyone not baptized dies, including babies. If you're not a baby of a JW you're fucking toast. God is going to murder 99.9% of the human population, according to their official church writings. It's just phrased in a way that most JWs don't realize that. But proving that to them from their publications requires references you won't easily have in hand. Seeing that in print was a huge part of accepting it was a cult, but it's not an easy thing to prove as a nonJW who doesn't know the history of changes to their doctrine and how they treat old publications. Apostasy is basically the scariest thing to JWs. If you mention you are an apostate, that you were disfellowshipped, they will run away scared.
Super helpful, thank you for the insights! >Apostasy is basically the scariest thing to JWs. If you mention you are an apostate, that you were disfellowshipped, they will run away scared. Good to know - will definitely use this in the future.
Maybe make up some little business cards with ex-JW resources and sites like JWfacts and hand those out?
They won't accept them but you can try! It's not a bad idea. Other exJWs have done that and made stickers with QR codes and stuck them to poles near where they set up their carts. The stickers are basically magic wards that will keep them away. 😂
Or a pentagram, or an upside down cross. Ask if they'd like to hear about the satanic temple when they come. Try to convert them right back!
Putting a mezuzah on your door if you’re not Jewish is cultural appropriation though.
Who does it hurt?
Do you disagree with the idea that cultural appropriation is bad? I myself see it as bad, even if it doesn’t not directly hurt anybody
So, what does it mean if a musician uses devil references or upside down crosses, or pentagrams to sell their music? That seems to be ok in most people’s eyes, but is that not the same thing? (And, no, most musicians who put on a show that has satanic or other religious refernaces are not necessarily “into” that thing. It’s just part of the show)
While it can be seen as disrespectful, it is very different than the scenario at hand with Judaism, as Jews have been a heavily persecuted minority group, and disrespect toward Jews is often accompanied by anti-semitic violence, and have been associated with and is reminiscent of such.
Judaism is not the only sect to be persecuted. Pagans and Islamic people have suffered terribly too. They are just two out of how many groups through history that have had absolutely horrific things done to them as well. It seems through your comment, "well it can be seen as disrespectful, it is very different than the scenario at hand with Judaism" isolates Judaism as a special case to not be appropriated. If you are going to stand up about appropriation maybe not try make it seems like Judaism is the only. Things don't get solved when we leave others out. A lot of belief systems have been left behind and abandoned because of the abuse they have suffered. People of different followings get plenty of sideways looks and suffer violence as well today. We just don't get make note of it as much because everything things seems smaller with the events of WW2 so close to our time today. The same with Sept. 11th. The comment made asking about pentagrams and upsidedown crosses should not be be belittled just because you might know little to nothing about their histories, which is how your response makes it sound. This is one of the issues I have with religions and their cultures. Everyone thinks theirs is so special or more important. They discount others experiences. I knew this lovely man whom was Hindu, and the way people would treat him was atrocious. I think he ended up having to leave because of it. Things was he wasn't the only person of his culture that suffered this.
I wasn’t talking about Judaism in relation to Islam or Pagan religions, but rather in relation to Christianity. Also, Judaism is an ethnicity, and as such cultural appropriation would be more applicable more to it in comparison to religions that are not also ethnicities, at least as we talk about it in a somewhat modern context. Also evidently it has been the case that Judaism is very often appropriated in todays day and age (ex. Messianics, Trisha Paytas, Jewface)
I don't think a victimless crime is a bad thing, no. No one is hurt by nailing a little thing to your door. I doubt most Jews would even care.
As a cultural Jew, I would care. Although it might be victimless, it is still disrespectful. This is an extreme example, but spiting on someone’s grave when no one is watching is also disrespectful, do you think that is wrong when it is technically a victimless act?
No, I don't see an issue there either. Again, who does it hurt?
I guess there are simply fundamentally different ways to view morality, and the way that you are positing is one that views morality simply on a basis of who an action hurts or not. So I guess we agree to disagree. Have a nice day!
Wouldn't work.
I remember a couple had a door mat that says “the gayest place in town” and they recorded some jw looking at it and then leaving try that
Now that's a fun idea. What if I use a doormat saying "Lesbian Evil Witch" ? Will they run away screaming? hah
To be safe "Lesbian Evil Blood transfused Witch "
Perfect! LMAO
Exjw here. If you have a pride flag out they'll probably avoid your house. They might be homophobic but they're also scared to actually be blatant about it or actually tell that to someone's face. They're not the Westboro Baptists. If you want a really fun time don't give any sign that you're gay, invite them in, get them some drinks, be chill, then mention your girlfriend/wife/partner and watch them squirm. Then mention witchy stuff or take out a tarot deck and they will dive out the nearest window. They'll probably never come back.
Little things like signs, door mat message etc are cool ideas just to fuck with them. I ain't letting strangers inside the house though lol no matter how creative I may be feeling that day hahah. Jokes aside, probably the most efficient way to get rid of them for good is to make noise to be added on some do-not-disturb list.
If you want to put out signs and stuff make sure they're really obvious because most JWs are as observant and self aware as a potato. I mentioned above but if you specifically say you don't want them to come back they're supposed to write down your address and not come back. Make sure you say you want to be added to their do not call list.
My old roommate had this big lab (rip buster) and every time a jw or any other religious solicitor would know, the dog would bark at them. He sounded aggressive but he just wanted to play.
I've tried multiple things with mixed results. I used to live 2 blocks from a Kingdom Hall and was harassed weekly (really sucks when it happens late morning on your only day off EVERY week). No soliciting signs everywhere--"We're not soliciting." No joy. An elaborate and strictly spooky Halloween yard--I think it attracted them. Answering the door half-naked with a parrot on my shoulder--chased politicians off, but hardly fazed the JWs. Calling the Kingdom Hall and demanding they lay the fuck off--at the first home this had no effect whatsoever, and we were thrilled to get transferred to another state. When I got my first visit at our current home, I startled the (quite) elderly woman in the group bellowing through the Ring doorbell. Informed them they'd ignored 3 no soliciting signs to bother me--including 2 that specifically mention religion--and told them to bugger off and never come back. I then called the Kingdom Hall and left a message. Someone actually called back, and actually listened when I said I've been harassed by their people too much of my adult life and was utterly fed up with it. They would never get me, so stop wasting your time and go bother somebody who gives a fuck. I mentioned having had a retired JW minister as a landlord in college, who thought nothing of interrupting my studies to proselytize, and the hours I lost making him leave. That their strongarm tactics and harassment have made me loathe them. He said he'd put me on the Do Not Disturb list, and I haven't seen any since. Which part of the convo did the trick? I dunno, but it was peppered heavily with F-bombs and parrot squawks.
If I were in your situation, I'd find out when their services are held, then bang on their temple doors 20 minutes after they start until someone comes and answers them. "Hi! Do you have a few minutes to talk about the marvel cinematic universe? There really great, I think you'd find them inspirational! Also, I'm going to come back and try again every time you visit my home without an invitation. See you again in two weeks! "
That would have been sort of fun in the old house where nothing got them to stop. Except for a couple of things: \- I got ONE day off each week, and it wasn't the day of their services. And if the weekly interruptions of my life killed my day, that would have taken much longer. Frankly, every minute of that day was to be cherished and enjoyed, which is largely why it pissed me off so much. \- And I have social anxiety. I like my quiet home and don't like leaving it. It often takes everything I have to just run errands. \- That anxiety is one more reason it's annoying AF to have strangers trying to invade my safe space at home.
You could also put a rainbow pentagram sicker on your front door. Preferably "point down" instead of up for extra spooky connotations. ;) I'm normally pretty introverted, but the more I bottle up annoyance, the more spectacularly it erupts. I've screamed at a roomful of 80+ terrible chorus singers for being terrible neighbors. Which was apparently just enough for them to finally fire their absolutely terrible director, and his annoying bullhorn. The group was more considerate after they dumped him. :)
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Any Jehovah Witnesses that trespass will be given a ***blood transfusion***.
Declare yourself as an apostate. Literally, "I am an Apostate." Jehovah's Witnesses seem to take this to mean that you've not only rejected God but are actively working for Satan, sacrificing virgins, eating babies, etc. Honestly, I'm not sure what their internal discourse is on this, but it seems to really freak them out. Like, cross the street when they see you and probably pray for protection.
Have a friend tied up on the ground with a pentagram below em. Candles everywhere and a youtube video of cultest chants playing from a laptop.
Honestly, you could have nice mainstream Christian chants (that old "Chant" album doesn't suck)... as long as a pentagram, or a goat head, or whatever, is in view. No need to get anyone else roped into the drama.
set up a sprinkler on your porch
You could get a no soliciting sign. Even a no proselytizing sign.
No soliciting signs don't work, since courts don't recognize religious harassment as soliciting. You will need a no-proselytizing sign, although they will likely ignore it.
I understand that if you tell them you were "disfellowshipped" prior to your moving to your present home, they will avoid you like the plague. In the JW world, such means that someone is to be ostracized mercilessly and NOT to be socialized with, even if they are a family member. By so informing them, that should resolve your problem. Google it for more information.
"Apostate" say your an apostate and they will leave you alone like your plagued.. cause in their eyes you are.
Say you're an ex-JW. They view apostates as worse than atheists and won't even have a conversation with you.
My favorite response to JWs was from an older man (I wish I could find his write-up, but here's my recollection). This fellow was a large, hairy fellow with big bushy eyebrows, and was very rumpled as he had just woken up. He answered the door without saying anything, just stared from under his eyebrows at the two JWs. They were taken back, and visibly uncomfortable, and he decided to play it up. He stuck out his hand and said mechanically: "I-will-take-your-lit-er-at-ure-and-give-it-to-my-master" They looked at him, at his outstretched hand, and fled.
Put up a sign that any knocking on the door or ringing of your bell puts the solicitor under contractual obligation to pay x amount and every minute after the initial greeting is x amount on top of that.[https://www.amazon.com/Solicitors-Solicitors-charged-Metal-Soliciting/dp/B084KSR9RY](https://www.amazon.com/Solicitors-Solicitors-charged-Metal-Soliciting/dp/B084KSR9RY)
This is brilliant. If you have a record of the ring, for example with the Ring doorbell app, it might even hold up in court.
I'm just here to say appreciate the usage of the world fortnight. I had some luck ranting to them about norse gods and taking over the conversation so they can't say anything. They weren't as often as they were for you though maybe once every 2 months.
What do you mean it has nothing to do with dancing and Llama lootboxes? (English teacher here, i also appreciate a fortnight used right)
Small sticker at the doorbell. "No proselytising."
I had a couple visit recently. I was polite, but explained right away that I was an Atheist and a Pastafarian. When they asked what a Pastafarian was, I explained it. In exceptional detail, until they got tired of listening and left. They haven't been back.
Former ‘dub here. Haven’t taken the time to read all the comments, so my apologies if I’m repeating what’s already been said. It’s important to understand that JW’s are a cult/high control group that actively engages in mind control techniques to keep their members compliant and believing. If you’re hoping to plant some seeds of doubt with the goal of eventually waking some of them up from their indoctrination, it’s a good idea to get a basic understanding of how cults operate. I recommend reading up on the BITE model by Steve Hassan. (Also a ton of good videos on YT discussing the topic) A simple place to start might be addressing phobia indoctrination. You could mention something to the effect of how similar they appear to Mormons. And that you read about how mormons suffer all kinds of fears about possibly leaving their group. That it spells doom for their eternal futures, as well as all sorts of terrible things happening to them in this life by not being within the safety of their organization. They even share sad stories about those who left and how their lives fell apart for it. They’re also extremely fearful of reading anything that’s critical of their religion. That ex-members who speak openly against the problems in the church are under the influence of the devil! And then add that many ex-mormons have realized those fears were *instilled* in them from a young age, in the efforts of keeping them from ever questioning their religion. That it’s called “phobia indoctrination”. Then you could ask: “what fears do you have about leaving your religion?… What do you think would happen if you ever left?… Where do you think you got those extreme fears from? God? Or the organization? What are the leaders trying to hide?
Ask to be put on their do not call list, and then try to sell them a timeshare.
Get a no religious solicitation sign
Call the local kingdom hall and tell them to put you on their do not call list. Put up no soliciting signs. I called and screamed and reminded them of the stand your ground laws in my state and told them about my PTSD and 6 dogs. They never came by again. Acting crazy seems to work.
Ask them about the child abusers
My mom had this same problem, she put up a sign on her front door that says something like "No solicitation of religion or products" and they never knocked again
I say clearly and reasonably that they are living a lie and harming people.
I had a neighbor that got a blood donor sticker and put it in their door. The JW peeps never bothered her.
Tell them you've learned quite a bit about their religion from watching their leader Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the Australian Royal Commission case study 29. They will never be back.
There are only two things you can do that will work. 1) Say "Put me on your Do Not Call list." 99% effective. 2) Say either "I'm disfellowshipped" or "I'm an apostate." 100% effective for a good 5 years before they might come back to see if you've moved. Anything else -- gay stuff, naked stuff, devil stuff, signs -- will either be ignored or viewed as a challenge by some.
There's the fact they protect rapists and child molesters. They spent thousands a day in US refusing to hand over records of sexual assault their members committed.
JW's divide their area of influence into territories and break those territories down into workable door to door cards. The cards are like small maps that may show streets and house numbers. This where your complaint comes in. On the back of those "maps" there is a "Do Not Call" section. Get them to put your address there. They sometime ignore the "Do Not Call" by justifying that "Maybe that person has moved away and someone different now lives at that address. So you see they won't stop. Put your foot down. Make a scene. Scream and shout but whatever you do DO NOT TALK TO THEM!
You could put a sign on your door.
Who can it be knocking at my door? Make no sound, tip-toe across the floor If he hears, he'll knock all day I'll be trapped and here I'll have to stay
When we were kids, my brother turned a water hose on them. It was mother approved. They never came back.
You all are boring. Booby trap your porch. Make them fight to get to your door. Let's have fun with it.
Yeahhhh. That's a felony in most states.
I had a chat with them, but I was able to point out the contradictions in their scripture. They never tried again.
My wiccan friend answers the door naked and they go away.
Well that works for most people.
My philosophy teacher used to let them in but tell them that he had a lot of stuff to do. He would then ask them to help do his dishes, fold his laundry, etc. Not sure if it was entirely true or if he just wanted to make the class laugh though.
Get a sign saying you're an apostate, they'll never bother you again. Telltale Atheist also sells these signs if your interested.
ask them in and start telling them about amway
"I am, what I believe you might call, an apostate who is actively seeking any legal means to eliminate your evil organization for its policies to protect abusers of children and sex abusers" There's no point trying to reason with them on any details unless you know something beyond the basics of their religion's beliefs and how their organization operates.
Erect statue of satan 🫡
Once somebody asked this somebody said to tell them you were disfellowshipped or excommunicated. I forget the terminology but they won’t have anything to do with you then.
Tell them you’re gay
Tell them to put you on the "Do-not-call" list. Alternatively, put a sign on your door warning that you are an apostate.
A few decades ago they parked in front of my yard. I had a demonic t-shirt and was getting warm mowing so I stopped long enough to remove my shirt and carefully draped it over the fence facing the vehicle. When they came back after harassing my neighbors they quickly, quietly, got in their car and drove off. I felt gleefully shunned! They haven't come back since, but I have Baphomet flags hanging from various yard signs and rainbow flags in the windows just in case.
There's a thing the government doesn't tell you!: Jehovah's witnesses are free you can just take them i have already 50 in my cellar
Tell them that you were 'Disfellowshipped'. They'll never come back.
Put a big sign on your door that says “An Apostate and his Pagan Princess live here!” Decorate the border with inverted crosses and pentagrams, lol.
The ammo I use comes from real life: a JW high school student came to live with me years ago because her JW father was molesting her and her brother and sister, while JW mom turned a blind eye. The JW organization sent a JW lawyer to try to force CPS to move the kid back home. The JW elders told her to forgive her father (who admitted his crimes but did not apologize and was not prosecuted) because his acts were just based on “body chemistry.” The JWs shunned the kid when she refused to live with her abusive father. There are tens of thousands of stories like this. The folks who knock on your door generally prefer not to acknowledge them.
As a former JW, I can tell you there are some easy ways to do it: 1. Simply ask to be put on the "Do Not Call" list. Use the following specific phrase, most of the males will be familiar with it since they use it themselves: "Your implied invitation to knock on my door is revoked". This is the phrase they use to kick people out of their churches, and the males are told to use it as they believe it has legal force. 2. Tell them you're an apostate. They are trained to believe apostates are from the Devil. 3. Ask for their address and tell them you want to come to their home to preach atheism. 4. Answer the door naked. Don't laugh. It's happened to me several times, and I immediately put them on the "do not call" list. Obviously I'm half joking here, but it really has happened to me several times. I was once preaching with an old woman when I was about 14. We encountered a naked dude answering the door. She looked at it, and slowly looked up, and asked "Is your mommy home?" 5. If you are feeling particularly adventurous, you might challenge them. Tell them you watched some documentary about how Watchtower tried to appease Hitler by falsely asserting they denied entry to the religion to Jewish people. It's called the "Declaration of Facts". Tell them you saw a documentary about their global child sex abuse issue. Remind them that there are 1,700 sex offenders in a population of 65,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia, and not one was reported to the Police. 6. Or - you could simply not answer the door. They will lurk for a while, because most of them are doing their mandatory service and absolutely hate it, so they use "not-at-homes" as an excuse for hanging out and chatting with their friends.
I've just had a thought. Have you answered the door at any point in the last few months? The only reason for fortnightly visits woukd be a) they visit everyone that often in your area b) they think you are friendly and are happy to have them back for a chat or c) you didnt answer the first time they called and they think your house is a "not at home" and are knocking again and again until they meet someone at which point they will not come again until they start visiting everyone in that area a few months or so later.
Just put up a “No Soliciting” sign. If they still come to the door, point at the sign and look at them as if you’re questioning whether or not they can read.
Not answer the door?
Tell them, clearly and loudly to fuck off and that one more knock at your door will be considered harrasment. Be big and as scary as you can. Tell them you don't believe in any of their bullshit, but if there is a hell, may they burn in it.
Don't answer the door.
I have a sign that states if you knock on the door to be soliciting or chat about religion then your agreeing to the terms to pay 50$ per minute it is payable in advance Mormons come to my neighbor all the time but avoid my apartment everytime lol its perfect got it on Amazon if you want to try it
Don't answer the door. You can't explain anything to them. You see it is them, just don't answer. Slam the door in their faces. Say nothing.
Tell them you deny the existence of the holy spirit, that was what I did the last time they came to my house. Fun facts: JW founder C.T. Russell sold "Miracle Wheat", claiming it would grow 5 times as much as other types of wheat. He was later sued over this and lost. Russell's successor, Judge Rutherford, had his followers pay for a mansion (Beth Sarim) to be built in San Diego, ostensibly to house soon-to-return Biblical characters. There are a ton of other scams and scandals in the cult's history. If you can find it, "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave" is a very good book about them.
"I am an apostate - I once was JW and renounced it" from what I've been told, if you say something to that extent, their religion then requires that they NOT talk to you anymore. (like excommunication) Don't know how true that is, though. Either way, yeah, post no soliciting, and then you can call the cops on them for harassment and trespass. If that didn't work, personally I'd answer the door (I have a Ring doorbell, so I'd know who was there) simply calmly holding my shotgun. And tell them that they are on private property and "I suggest that you leave" -- but no overt (illegal) threats. Just a man legally standing on his property with a legal weapon having a calm conversation. I don't fck around with people who harass me on my own property.
Horrible behavior..
I agree that illegal harassment of a person on their own private property is horrible behavior. I disagree that legally owning private property (my house, my gun) is horrible behavior. I would agree that if you threatened someone, that would be illegal and horrible. I have explicitly advocated AGAINST that. I respect privacy and private property. The law respects it. Society respects it. Perhaps you don't.
You've been down 👎 voted for a reason. The simple truth..is just bc you can doesn't mean you should.. Nobody is probably objecting to your gun ownership ---just you menacing with it to handle someone knocking on your door.
The easiest way to go on with your life? Ask them to put you on their "Do Not Call" list. (I'm sure that was already mentioned by someone)
if you don't have any facts about them, then why dont you want them at your door exactly? Surely there's no harm in having a chat with a fellow human being. You've done it here online, why not in person?
Worst perspective on harassment ever.
My issue is not having a chat. My issue is them trying to save me from a nonexistent threat. My issue is opening my door to strangers whom I don't know the intentions of. You could even say I'm trying to be neighbourly, and informing them not to waste their time on me, allowing them to attempt to convert others with a higher efficiency than dealing with me. I live in a rough area, I don't want people snooping around my flat. The asking for Information about them might be a tad much, but if I did open my door for them to attempt to convert me, and these teachings of theirs do not align with my philosophical or ethical beliefs, then the time has been wasted on both our parts, and nothing has been achieved. At least of I ask here, I am sure there are others who understand my concerns, and will give me something to point out, to help convince them to leave me be.
I'm curious, do they visit just you? or everyone?
I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to answer you on that one. They have to go up some outside steps to get to my flat, and there's 10 flats to pick and choose. I know my neighbour works night shifts, so if they do knock on his door at the same time as mine, I pity the bastard. But after they leave me, I get on with my day, and phase out outside noise
Reminds me of this video https://youtu.be/oSx9lrbHrME
Wish you could send them my way. I love when perfect strangers knock on my door and, in effect, say "hey, let's discuss theology". JWs don't last very long. Mormons usually stick around, but it's hit or miss with them. Evangelicals are tenacious.
They may leave you alone if you pretend to be a christian. It seems they hate christians most of all
Answer the door naked or something.
draw a chalk outline by your door, and scatter a few watch tower pamphlets around it. Put up some yellow tape for effect. add a no soliciting sign for intent.
Prominently display a Rainbow flag/sticker, or . . . really [up the ante](https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/06/mormon-missionaries-walk-away-from-lesbian-couples-gayest-doormat-17310127/) (Though I don't know if that would work as well on JWs as it apparently does on Mormons.)
Answer the door with a carving knife and a tick ?
Tell them you are a apostate
If that kept happening to me after I told them I wasn’t interested I would have the discussion with them and not hold back any criticism, scrutiny or mockery
Say Roman Catholic in this house and they will not return.
Give them an open invitation to your weekly gay orgies.
.) Open the door naked. .) Write "I love Satan" on your door. .) Write "Fuck Jehovas Witnesses" on your door.
If you tell them you're an apostate they'll leave you alone IIRC.
Tell them you follow a religion older than theirs
Tell them that you have some people coming over for an orgy and they're welcome to try and convince every one there, but they have to get naked and participate. Worked for my step-father in the 80s, we were never bothered by them again.
Tell them you are super interested in god and then start speaking in tongues, they will run as they think that shit is demonic possession.
tell them you're an apostate . they'll flee.
>I'd like to have some ammunition of they ask for it [wikipedia: Unfulfilled Watch Tower Society predictions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions)
Put a No Soliciting sigh on your door.
Connect your computer to your tv, and put up any scene from The Smoke Room
put a mat in front of your door that says “gayest house on the block” and has a rainbow.
Post a No Solicitor sign on your door.
Tell them god told you they are the devil and must be ignored.
I used to let them talk for about 10 minutes then tell them I'm an atheist. I mean they just keep on rumbling about god this and god that so let them have their say while you try to solve a puzzle in your mind... Last time that happened was about 5 years ago when I got the "So you let us talk for all this time without saying anything?" I smiled and said "Yup, anyhow have a nice day, thanks for trying." And closed my door.
I live 50M from the local multi-congregation JW Hall I have managed to get myself on their do not knock list. Prior to this all I said repeatedly was "Fuck off - I have enough gods already" they still do my neighbours but the Ring doorbells seem a good way of handling them.
My husband's story, not mine... The drunken ex-bf had left, so he was doing a cleansing ritual sweeping the negative energy out of the flat with a besom broom the black kitten followed along sweeping from the first floor flat down to the ground floor (it was once an 1885 house) opening the front door wearing a black hooded towing bathrobe to push the energy out holding the penis carved in the broom handle and there were two JW ladies standing in the door arch I'm told they blanched and turned around up the alley the house is on.
Contact a lawyer, file a no contact order. In most states the cost of no contact orders can be billed to the subject.
Open the door in your sexiest underwear, they will never come back.
I had always heard putting a Red Cross or blood donor sticker near the door keeps them away
We get them quite a bit. My wife and I take turns on who gets to tell them to fuck off.
[this](https://society6.com/welcome-mats/satanic) might help
"do you mind, I'm trying to have a wank"
Put a sign up to the effect of "if you ring this door bell you agree to pay x/minuate, double if it's about jesus".
Honestly the best advice is to either A: don’t answer the door when they come knocking, or B: out-inform them and shame them into oblivion by not only knowing about everything they bring up, but knowing more than they do. Next best option would be to spook them off. My mother did a mix of B and this option, when I was about 16 or so. Me and my sister were going to a Halloween party and I had answered the door dressed up in my costume (classic ninja getup), and they were flabbergasted with the “level of debauchery and ignorance” my family was showcasing. Enter my mother, who looked at them once and somehow knew what religion they were before they set foot on the doorstep AND INVITED THEM IN. That confused me later, but now I see what game she was playing here. They tried to tell her about the evils of pagan holidays, and she pulled option B out of her hat and played that Uno Reverse card with the skill of a cardsharp from Las Vegas. She educated THEM about the history of Halloween and Christmas and Easter, and how out of all of them, Halloween was actually the closest holiday that Christianity could lay claim to being responsible for making. (Technically it’s All Saints’ Day and All Hallows Eve, Halloween was a modern adaptation of the Gaelic Samhain celebration that rapidly expanded and became popular across the country, and the rest is history) They started getting extremely uncomfortable with trying to explain their way being the right way when they realized they were up against somebody who not only knew the origins of Halloween, but knew the origins of Christmas and Easter too, and knew all about the origins of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. They were fighting a fight against someone who had all the cards. They were playing a rigged game and they were not the ones who rigged it. They rapidly, hurriedly tried to nobly escape the trap that they willingly walked into, with as much dignity as they could possibly salvage. They failed to salvage Jack Shit. We haven’t seen a single Jehovah’s Witness since.
Can I suggest the following? Pick anything from these videos that catches your eye. You may very well find some information here that the JWs get wrong: [https://www.youtube.com/@SansDeity/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@SansDeity/videos)
I once worked with a Jewish lady who had the same issues with the damn jehovahs witnesses. I'll give it to all the Jewish people I've met because they have a sense of humor often lacking in most religions. She invited them in, and she had made pamphlets ahead of time for them and just made them sit through her whole speech. They were there close to an hour. They never came back again.
Read their holy text. Invite them into your home and ask them really uncomfortable questions about the moral dubiousness of it as well as the contradictions. Ask if you can come to their church and discuss these things with other members
My house has dragon head door knockers. They always seem to skip my house.
I keep hoping they’ll knock. I’ll debate until they run away screaming.
Ask them why if the small number of "saved" people who are going to heaven has been reached (I believe they say it is 144,000), why are they trying to recruit more?
I’ve politely told them they’re talking to someone who has had blood transfusions to save my life because otherwise I would have died, and that their religion would rather my kids grew up motherless, which seems cruel and not loving.
My MIL used to get them to help weed her property while SHE would try to convert them to Catholicism. ftr I think most religions suck. I am ordained to perform marriages for The Church of Bacon, who has similar tenets as The Satanic Temple (which I plan on joining too… scratch that. I just joined.)
Put a sign on the door.
Next time tell them to put you on the do not call list. Although they are still encouraged to make sure you still want to be on it annually. So step two, put a sign on the door that calls them out directly. You can make it polite. You could even mention the the incorrect address. The only people they will avoid like the plague are ex-jws and those that have anti-jw facts. You won't get anywhere with doctrinal arguments.
tell them you will listen to them if first then listen to your message about satan or something
Leah Remi did a two part expose on them like she did multiple episode in Scientology. Check on utube. Or you could simply install an upside down crucifix as a door knocker and thereby stop all religious visits....🤔
The youtuber telltale sells signs that say “apostate lives here” as a way to deter JWs.
Tell them you are disfellowshipped and to remove your address from the territory card. It may not be called a territory card in the digital age, but being disfellowshipped means they can't talk to you. I haven't had one at my door for years. Been disfellowshipped since 1990.
Get a Satanic Temple doormat. Works for better than any no soliciting sign.
Why is nobody mentioning filing a harassment claim with the police? Next time they come, get their names, ask where they are from, and let them know you are calling the police because they are harassing you.
Thanks for reminding me that I wanted to print the leaflet from the satanic temple to give to them.
Just tell them you are an apostate. Don't tell them from what. Just apostate. JWs shun apostates, they aren't even going to risk finding out more. It works. I was working in my garage one day when I saw a couple of JW men working the street. They spotted me and veered from the sidewalk towards the driveway and the open garage door. I hollered out "Sorry guys, I'm an apostate." The guy in front said "Ok then, have a nice day" and turned to leave. By the time he said that the other guy had scurried back down the driveway to the safety of the street, like he was afraid to get some apostasy on him or something. I had a hard time not laughing at him running away. My wife saw it from inside and came out to the garage laughing and wondering what I had said. If you really want to have fun tell them you are an apostate and that you joined the Mormons. They'll GTFO fast.
My solution would be to brush up on my Subgenius rhetoric and proselytize right back at them.
I ask them for their home address so I can come talk to them. When they don't give it, I shut the door.
Answer the door and say “Are you here to help dispose of the body?”
Ask about the 2 witness rule and how it allows rampant pedophilia in many of their Halls(houses of worship) In fact i believe it was Canada where a major Hall had failed to meet legal requirements of reporting when memebers report to the "clergy" Ask about Banishment and LGBTQ people.
My Nan mentioned JWs the other day, apparently when she moved into her current house they kept bothering her. One day she just told them the true story of how blood transfusions saved the life of one of her children, adding something to effect of "If you are against that then you are wicked and you are evil and you disgust me". They haven't come back in the 10 years since. I think they keep records of where their congregation has visited and once they blacklist you they don't come back.
I used to have a dog that prevented them from getting out of their car
Or you could just not answer the door. I used to play Marilyn Manson on full blast when they would come through our neighbourhood. They learned not to bother knocking on my door. Hail Satan!
I have had good success by saying Sure! will be happy, happy! to share! Let me go first! Come on in while I get my drum and we can do some tribal songs together! Wow, I've been hoping to get some one to sing and dance with! They leave pretty fast. The elders warn the youngsters to beware and not come back.
When they knock on the door say you used to be a Jehovah's witness. Apparently current members aren't allowed to speak to former members similar to scientology, except they don't harass you, they just won't speak with you
Ask them if they believe Jesus is God, they’ll say no because they don’t believe that, and you can then say sorry I’m a Christian, and I believe Jesus is God, and they’ll never come back. We did that at our house lol. Lying for a good cause😂
Buy something like [this](https://www.etsy.com/listing/769130192/no-trespassing-jehovahs-witnesses)?