Because the Jews are the puppetmasters and our politicians are the puppets, if the conspiracy theories are to be believed š
Honestly for the most part, Jews are sound. I've met one Jewish bloke who was a cunt and lived up to the stereotypes (money grubbing, unethical business practices etc) but the rest I've known have been decent, same as any other group really. They don't really cause any issues in countries where they live in large numbers either. I lived in an area of London that had a Jewish community and you'd forget they were there really.
One of the things about shedding collective prejudices about religious or ethnic groups is that it let's you truly and properly despise individuals who are just complete and utter cunts, not because they are X or Y or part of Z group - but because they are just massive cunts.
Exactly. I don't have a lot of time for Harry Triguboff and think him, his lobbying and business practices have significantly contributed to Sydney's housing crisis, but that's not because he's Jewish, it's because he's a money grubbing cunt. You'd probably find plenty of Jewish people who think he's a cunt too.
Same goes for Aussies and Rupert Murdoch. Most Aussies think he's a cunt and don't view him as someone to be proud of.
Most people within any given group (ethnic, national, religious, whatever) despise the 'bad' people in that group as much as people outside the group.
Dude protesting and rioting aren't going to do much when more than half the country are thrilled their main asset has grown significantly, doubly so when the politicians themselves along with the upper class hold multiple investment properties.
What for 3 months? You're kidding right?
Multiple entry visas still have a time limit and a minimum time between visits.
The hotel industry will think this is awesome - not the REAs.
Tourism dollars are pretty much always good for economy assuming you don't come to rely on them. It's revenue from foreign source so increases GDP /capita. The small effect on inflation is minimal and usually highly localised to tourist trap areas.
That's certainly the government and corporate line on it. What about the activites, services and items that low income australians would like to enjoy that are inflated out of reach now? The zoo? Aquarium? Restaurants?
Unfortunately you've bought into trickle down theory. Pumping GDP up doesn't guarantee a better way if life. USA is the prime example.
I'm sure dan Tehan and Scomo appreciate you dumping the mess on Albos lap when they did everything and tied Australia into the deal before losing power when all that was left was for the PM being forced to sign it.
Dutton appreciates your efforts at taking the heat off of them. (Despite the little slip up Dan made when he tried to blame labor for the yoga instructors on the skilled list and everyone pointed out he put them there for the India deal)
Sigh I suggest you go research how international state level trade deals are brokered and set up. Who is responsible for what and what authority each person in each step has. But sure keep pushing the narrative that scomo and Dan Tehan's mess is Albos
A multiple-entry visas of up to five years means up to 5 entries, each 3 months max, and can only happen once a year.
It's a common visa everywhere. The US offers 10 year multi-entry visas to China, EU offers 5 year multi entry and Japan offers 3-year and 5-year multi entry visas to China.
Lmao the corporatocracy in full effect, canāt wait to hear about how little theyāre spending on Australian property because they purchase through shell companies š
Why are we spending hundreds of billions on submarines to combat the supposed threat of China then doing these type of deals with them if they're our supposed future enemy?
Because there is no threat, itās just propaganda from the military industrial complex. You canāt sell weapons unless there is war or threat of war.
maybe take a look at these guys - [https://www.sustainableaustralia.org.au/policies#sustainablepopulation](https://www.sustainableaustralia.org.au/policies#sustainablepopulation)
And this kids, is how you get people to vote for Pauline Hanson.
It's not just Australia though. Look at the polling for the upcoming UK election, Nigel Farage (basically the British Pauline Hanson) is polling at nearly 20%. Many people around the world are sick of the mainstream political parties and are prepared to vote for nutters as a form of protest vote.
At this point theyāre not even trying to hide the contempt they have for Australians, are they? Scomo pulled this same stunt with India, and now this dickhead doubles down on the stupidity.
Isn't the whole 'Enhanced Lethality Surface Combatant Fleet initiative' all about creating a [deterrence ](https://asiatimes.com/2024/02/australias-naval-splurge-all-about-deterring-china/)to China.
This is going massively increase the number of arrivals, China is not a popular tourist destination for Australians anymore. This is weak policy.
Was China *ever* a popular tourist destination for Aussies? I do know of some people who've visited (including myself) but it was never up there with Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Singapore or Japan.
Yes. Because some Australians are Chinese or have Chinese heritage. And soon there will be many more.
I'm not agreeing that it is good or bad, just answering your question. Many people forget that the Chinese have been here for a long time too.
1818, a bloke called John Shying was the first. He was a carpenter.
The challenge with China came after 1949 when communism arrived (PRC) & the country started to be seen as a threat to the pacific region, a lot of this was likely driven by the perception of Communism in the West / USA. We actually didn't recognise the Chinese Government until 1972. In 73 the migration of Chinese began to increase significantly as hasn't stopped to this day.
Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and Japan sure I can agree, but China doesnāt measure up to Singapore? Really?
China has amazing nature, food and history and has a lot more to offer than Singapore.
It's not just the lack of housing it's also the quality of housing that has fallen to the point that buying a new build is a potential liability.
Corporate profits are just turning Australia into a shit hole .
Donāt we in return get visa free travel to China? So millions of Chinese the benefits of coming here and a few thousand of Australians get to go to China easier.
Or, you could just go to one of the dozens of countries that *don't* snatch people whenever they need a diplomatic bargaining chip, and not have to worry at all.
We in return get the same 5 year visas.
It's about multientry and not having to go through the process all over again.
The 15 days visa free is a different scheme
This is like the scam we have with New Zealand that has sent a million New Zealanders here, while some minuscule amount of Australians live in New Zealand.
FFS
China have a temper tantrum cos Australia suggest an investigation in to the origins of Covid and as a result china throws up a whole bunch of spurious trade restrictions for Aus goods
They eventually reverse some of them and Aus is supposed be grateful and roll out the red carpet for our great āfriendsā
Now we are opening up more avenues for them
What a shit show
nah mate. if i were to go there, i would run the risk of being imprisoned under fake espionage charges the moment china didnt like something australia did, and there wouldnt be a thing anyone could do about it. fuck going to china.
A guy I know just went on a big overseas trip and he had a 1 day stopover in china and he had the correct documents to be able to enter for the day. They let his family in but refused to let him in - according to him because they didnāt like the look of him (bodybuilder with lots of Tatts), so he spend the day in the airport.
Tattoos often mean gangsters in eastern Asia. In Japan they wouldn't let one in a pool, gym, hot spring or traditional inn if they see any tattoos, even a small one.
https://www.australiachinarelations.org/content/australia-china-tourism-relationship
It is less well known that 700,000 Australians visit China annually and Australia ranks as the 13th largest source of inbound tourism to China.
There are 15,000 Australian live in China.
Stop listening to anti-China media, you will understand nothing that way. It safe there, and wonderful to travel to and stay a long while. However, you maybe getting confused with America.
Newsflash the government does not care about the average person
They just care about lining their pockets as well as their millionaire and billionaire mates
Hey, shame about that little pandemic, and asking for an investigation to how it started. We brought the threats on ourselves, I guess. And I'm sure it was just a little misunderstanding when you've blasted our helpless navy divers in the water, and dropped flares in front of our aircraft. We must have not communicated clearly.
But the relationship with our great friends,China, is back on track. Tariffs on beef and lobster are dropped, and we're getting a couple of new Pandas for Adelaide Zoo. It's looking just peachy. /S
The roundabout at the end of Northbourne Avenue (which will be renamed Anthony Albanese Avenue) will have a giant statue built of Great Leader Anthony Albanese, facing the Australian People's Palace (formerly known as Parliament House).
Yup. I'm fucking DONE with ALP. They do not care one bit.
Just keep turning the taps and let more people in. MAJORS LAST.
Whats worse is these cunts won't even bother contributing to our economy at all.
What do you mean? They'll contribute millions to push up property prices and rental costs everywhere. It will help those poor struggling people with 10+ properties on their portfolio to make ends meet /s
He'll address the issue before smugly segueing into something about how the LNP did something, how Dan Andrews is still living rent free in peoples' heads, or some inane shill shit. The guy has let partisan politics absolutely melt his brain.
I assume he wonāt say anything, because this is a paper work change not a number of visa issued change. How can you dim wits not understand the different.
"Your property portfolio donors will love this. And think of all the happy families bringing everyone and the family dog over who will vote for you for making it possible!"
Labor aligned think tanks donāt even agree with the bloody Labor government. Cause the current Labor government is just acting as how competent liberal government should.
A business visa isn't a pass to come and stay. They're issued for 5 years, but usually have visitor visa-type conditions on length of individual stays, and don't lead to PR. I've had 1-year business visas to China and India, neither has allowed me to simply move there for the year.
and when you were staying there, did you reside in a house or apartment?
because just because someone from overseas is staying here for "only" 1 year, or 5 years, or whatever length of stay, they still need somewhere to live while doing so... during an already existing housing shortage
It's a visa for business trips. You stay in hotels for like a week, then you go home. It's not for people who are moving here. It's for people who come on short trips.
This is EXACTLY the same as any other business visa. It just means you don't have to apply for a new one every trip. Am I speaking another language?
A multiple-entry visas of up to five years means up to 5 entries, each 3 months max, and can only happen once a year.
It's a common visa everywhere. The US offers 10 year multi-entry visas to China, EU offers 5 year multi entry and Japan offers 3-year and 5-year multi entry visas to China.
Seems a lot of people here can understand a business trip. Some of them cannot even literally understand a multiple entry visa, maybe they don't even have a passport to worry about this visa at all.
It is a good movement for people who need to travel between countries for the short term and it is a common practice between a lot of countries.
newsflash: these business visas are not strictly one off. i.e. they can be renewed. But hey for Labor sympathisers āitās just a temporary visaā so no issues there at all.
Can't believe we are getting in bed with China again. We spent so much effort getting away and not being reliant on China. Now we are Chinas bitch again. How stupid can we be to think China is sincere?! They only want our resources. How long before they start bullying everyone around again and making demands.
Well , house prices are crashing in China . May be Australians can finally get a home in China since we also get the multiple entry visa to China . It is time we have a Australia town in Beijing and Shanghai
Australia is already China in so many placesā¦ at least now we will have more mainland Chinese to come over and sort out any Taiwanese separatists and them pesky falun dafa religious groups. See you guys at the Great Wall or Tiananmen Square on Friday yay š
Looks like the Government will do everything they can to prop up the property market here. Every suburb I've gone through looked completely run down and void of any sense of community apart from sparse dog walkers out to let their dogs take steaming dumps on their neighbour's lawn. High streets are also in a very sad state. Driving down Victoria Road is a really really depressing place and this is a major road. The other one's are even more depressing. It's hard to believe property costs so much! Expect more immigration to keep Australians wealthy. Not sure you can say about the mentally healthy and happy side of things though.
I assume this is a two way street, right? We can just cruise into China and start a business there and buy property with little regulation like here, right? Unless?
āDuring Li's trip to Australia, he said China would also include Australia in its visa waiver scheme, allowing Australians to visit the country for up to 15 days without a visa.ā
Thatās awesome news!
China is Australiaās largest trade partner, of course China and Australia need to have a visa like this to promote trade. Are you stupid? You can cry about India because India is much poorer than China and India doesnāt contribute much to Australian economy as the Chinese do.
Not sure why we need this when we ship them natural resources. If 500k Aussies lived in China with another 500k planned to move the Chinese government would never sign this kind of arrangement with Australia. We are pathetic.
i think we should be giving Billonares the massive middle finger
Our Native Cunts already have a Huge impact so To take Rich people and not expect them to fuck with the Laws here is like expecting a NZ to not Fuck a Sheep
Its just Fucking stupid
Tbf, Chinese Billionaires are not looking for a low price rental in a 2 bed duplex in the Outer suburbs. They will be in thousands of dollars penthouses etc. Hotels and Air BnB will do the heavy lifting.
Why does everyone assume they'll be looking at renting? It's not exactly difficult for them to get FIRB approval to purchase, especially with "I'll be in and out for 5 years" as a backing
I'm assuming Billionaires would never want to live in an affordable house. If they are buying they are in competition with other Billionaires....and I'd like to hope if they start snatching up multiple 2/3 bed houses there would be guard rails to stop that happening. We shall see...
This is in the context of China easing its own requirements and making it easier for Australians to visit. Multiple entry over five years is a good thing for us and them.
There's nothing wrong with this in theory. If someone in China has a legitimate reason to visit multiple times that's completely fine. Why you're saying this means more Chinese staying here long term I don't know.
More Australians for them to lock up on trumped up espionage charges, more spies China can put in Australia to operate with impunity. Perfect plan for someone...
They do that right now. Are you saying this'll increase the rate somehow? You know this is literally just making it a little more convenient for travel between the countries right, it's not easing investment laws.
Except part of the investment laws require them to rent it out. But if its their primary they don't need to
What about those who are just using it for family reunions, think they aren't going to add to the rental demand? Multiple entry tourists aren't going to need somewhere to stay to?
We already have rich Americans and other countries here buying up stuff. I'm not against China, quite the opposite, but you don't let foreigners buy up stuff here no matter where they are from.
Wow how not understand the difference between, have a 5 year visa as an option and giving out more visas.
This doesnāt change anything, and is more of a gesture to China, you know fostering relationship with the big economy in the world, one of close neighbours. Not antagonising them like a bunch of country fuckwits.
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ thatāll ease the housing crisis - they really donāt care how many Australians end up homeless - itās pathetic
Since no one is protesting or rioting they assume all is good and fine.
Why would anyone do something illegal like protesting without permission?
Why would they protest if it doesnāt involve Jews?
Why would they protest? It will just get downvoted and shat on by bootlickers here.
Because the Jews are the puppetmasters and our politicians are the puppets, if the conspiracy theories are to be believed š Honestly for the most part, Jews are sound. I've met one Jewish bloke who was a cunt and lived up to the stereotypes (money grubbing, unethical business practices etc) but the rest I've known have been decent, same as any other group really. They don't really cause any issues in countries where they live in large numbers either. I lived in an area of London that had a Jewish community and you'd forget they were there really.
One of the things about shedding collective prejudices about religious or ethnic groups is that it let's you truly and properly despise individuals who are just complete and utter cunts, not because they are X or Y or part of Z group - but because they are just massive cunts.
Exactly. I don't have a lot of time for Harry Triguboff and think him, his lobbying and business practices have significantly contributed to Sydney's housing crisis, but that's not because he's Jewish, it's because he's a money grubbing cunt. You'd probably find plenty of Jewish people who think he's a cunt too. Same goes for Aussies and Rupert Murdoch. Most Aussies think he's a cunt and don't view him as someone to be proud of. Most people within any given group (ethnic, national, religious, whatever) despise the 'bad' people in that group as much as people outside the group.
His ethics have nothing to do with his ethnicity.
Dude protesting and rioting aren't going to do much when more than half the country are thrilled their main asset has grown significantly, doubly so when the politicians themselves along with the upper class hold multiple investment properties.
We will just get arrested if we protest. The former Labor party is now the fuck you landlord party. They are scumbags.
Wait until they see the polls...
People are too busy watching sports on tv, no time to protest
People wonāt need a house as soon they wonāt be able to afford the electricity, Labor just 3 steps ahead.
If they only came here to spend money then fucked off afterwards it wouldn't be an issue, but you know that's not what's happening
Gotta rent a house when they come as well
Frim memory they can also buy a house as long as they sell it when they leave
This seems like it should be easy to cross-check and enforce, but no one does. Because the government doesnāt want to reduce house prices.
Even with checks and balances they can just āsellā the house to a relative/friend.
It has to be a newly built house too
Pretty sure as long as they sell it when they go it can be an existing dwelling too.
What for 3 months? You're kidding right? Multiple entry visas still have a time limit and a minimum time between visits. The hotel industry will think this is awesome - not the REAs.
Five years visa.
Or buy 10.
Even just coming here to spend money isn't as great as it sounds. It drives up the cost of whatever they are buying and adds to inflation.
Tourism dollars are pretty much always good for economy assuming you don't come to rely on them. It's revenue from foreign source so increases GDP /capita. The small effect on inflation is minimal and usually highly localised to tourist trap areas.
That's certainly the government and corporate line on it. What about the activites, services and items that low income australians would like to enjoy that are inflated out of reach now? The zoo? Aquarium? Restaurants? Unfortunately you've bought into trickle down theory. Pumping GDP up doesn't guarantee a better way if life. USA is the prime example.
GDP/capita not GDP.
Thatās why most countries who rely on tourism have tow tier payment system. One for the locals (cheap) and one for tourists (expensive).
Albo is on a round the world "selling off Australian residency tour". Where after India & China?
Scomo did India. Albo had to one up him with China
> Scomo did India. Albo signed the deal
I'm sure dan Tehan and Scomo appreciate you dumping the mess on Albos lap when they did everything and tied Australia into the deal before losing power when all that was left was for the PM being forced to sign it. Dutton appreciates your efforts at taking the heat off of them. (Despite the little slip up Dan made when he tried to blame labor for the yoga instructors on the skilled list and everyone pointed out he put them there for the India deal)
> PM being forced to sign it. lol no
Sigh I suggest you go research how international state level trade deals are brokered and set up. Who is responsible for what and what authority each person in each step has. But sure keep pushing the narrative that scomo and Dan Tehan's mess is Albos
Albo was forced into it now Iāve heard everything lmao
OK champ. Be as ignorant as a yank about legislation and parliamentary process. It really helps misinformation
Scomo made me do it lolololol
If a government goes back on their word every time they change power why would any nation do business with them?
Scomo went back on their word and world still traded with Australia but if Albo tried, no one will trade with Australia? Amazing logic.
One time isnāt every time champ
American and other countries have bought up loads of stuff here. China is just one of many countries that do this here. All thanks to successive govs.
More people spend money but don't produce - higher price for everything
Yeah why doesn't this country produce anything?
A multiple-entry visas of up to five years means up to 5 entries, each 3 months max, and can only happen once a year. It's a common visa everywhere. The US offers 10 year multi-entry visas to China, EU offers 5 year multi entry and Japan offers 3-year and 5-year multi entry visas to China.
Lmao the corporatocracy in full effect, canāt wait to hear about how little theyāre spending on Australian property because they purchase through shell companies š
Yep, always one moron that says āforeign investors only make up 1%ā. Thatās whatās on the books boofheadā¦
We have the worst politicians
*voters Ftfy
All the parties are the bloody same mate, itās not like thereās a ānone of the aboveā option available.
151 of them and I only like 1
Theyāre just salesmen
Stupid? Mate, they know what they are doing and they definitely don't have the person on the street in mind.
Why are we spending hundreds of billions on submarines to combat the supposed threat of China then doing these type of deals with them if they're our supposed future enemy?
China already owns so much here, why would they want war with us?
Because there is no threat, itās just propaganda from the military industrial complex. You canāt sell weapons unless there is war or threat of war.
Even Xiās sister is living here, both sides drum up propaganda and ridiculously some people believe such things.
So first India then China, just pathetic. I am going to struggle to find anyone to vote for next election.
maybe take a look at these guys - [https://www.sustainableaustralia.org.au/policies#sustainablepopulation](https://www.sustainableaustralia.org.au/policies#sustainablepopulation)
And this kids, is how you get people to vote for Pauline Hanson. It's not just Australia though. Look at the polling for the upcoming UK election, Nigel Farage (basically the British Pauline Hanson) is polling at nearly 20%. Many people around the world are sick of the mainstream political parties and are prepared to vote for nutters as a form of protest vote.
At this point theyāre not even trying to hide the contempt they have for Australians, are they? Scomo pulled this same stunt with India, and now this dickhead doubles down on the stupidity.
Isn't the whole 'Enhanced Lethality Surface Combatant Fleet initiative' all about creating a [deterrence ](https://asiatimes.com/2024/02/australias-naval-splurge-all-about-deterring-china/)to China. This is going massively increase the number of arrivals, China is not a popular tourist destination for Australians anymore. This is weak policy.
In 2019 Chinese tourists spent $3.4billion on visiting Victoria.
Was China *ever* a popular tourist destination for Aussies? I do know of some people who've visited (including myself) but it was never up there with Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Singapore or Japan.
Yes. Because some Australians are Chinese or have Chinese heritage. And soon there will be many more. I'm not agreeing that it is good or bad, just answering your question. Many people forget that the Chinese have been here for a long time too.
1818, a bloke called John Shying was the first. He was a carpenter. The challenge with China came after 1949 when communism arrived (PRC) & the country started to be seen as a threat to the pacific region, a lot of this was likely driven by the perception of Communism in the West / USA. We actually didn't recognise the Chinese Government until 1972. In 73 the migration of Chinese began to increase significantly as hasn't stopped to this day.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. I didn't know this.Ā
Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and Japan sure I can agree, but China doesnāt measure up to Singapore? Really? China has amazing nature, food and history and has a lot more to offer than Singapore.
It's not just the lack of housing it's also the quality of housing that has fallen to the point that buying a new build is a potential liability. Corporate profits are just turning Australia into a shit hole .
Donāt we in return get visa free travel to China? So millions of Chinese the benefits of coming here and a few thousand of Australians get to go to China easier.
Yeah we can go for 15 days!!
And you run the risk of being disappeared by their government while you're there. You'd have to be insane.
That's such an infinitesimal risk that if things like that worry you, you'd never leave the house.
Depends very strongly on what filed you work in, mate.
Or, you could just go to one of the dozens of countries that *don't* snatch people whenever they need a diplomatic bargaining chip, and not have to worry at all.
You would more likely die on the way to the airport then get snatched as a diplomatic bargaining chip
Thereās a good chance you can stay a lot longer and visa free if youāve written the words Winnie the Pooh on social media.
We in return get the same 5 year visas. It's about multientry and not having to go through the process all over again. The 15 days visa free is a different scheme
This is like the scam we have with New Zealand that has sent a million New Zealanders here, while some minuscule amount of Australians live in New Zealand.
Not to mention the amount of Indians that migrated to NZ then moved to Australia.
Something like half of people who migrate to New Zealand move to Australia after getting their Kiwi passports. It's been going on for years.
Yeah it's a peak 2000s-10s thing
To be fair, everyone from New Zealand migrated here.
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More Australians or just Chinese with Australian citizenship?
Probably a lot of business investors that will look at going over to enter the market or to outsource production
The Chinese with Australian citizenship are called Australian.
By who? Because, they probably donāt call themselves that.
Or is it just you refusing to accept that they are Australian
Where did I say they arenāt legally Australian citizens?
Just letting the 4th largest employer in Australia get its executives in.
FFS China have a temper tantrum cos Australia suggest an investigation in to the origins of Covid and as a result china throws up a whole bunch of spurious trade restrictions for Aus goods They eventually reverse some of them and Aus is supposed be grateful and roll out the red carpet for our great āfriendsā Now we are opening up more avenues for them What a shit show
Scomo bad for asking about covid origins. Albo good for licking chinaās anus.
One way traffic
why would we offer this when its not safe for us to go there?
How is it not safe? I was there 4 months ago and had zero issues.
Not safe? Unless you go to China just for against Chinese government,otherwise China is pretty,ask someone had been to China before.
nah mate. if i were to go there, i would run the risk of being imprisoned under fake espionage charges the moment china didnt like something australia did, and there wouldnt be a thing anyone could do about it. fuck going to china.
A guy I know just went on a big overseas trip and he had a 1 day stopover in china and he had the correct documents to be able to enter for the day. They let his family in but refused to let him in - according to him because they didnāt like the look of him (bodybuilder with lots of Tatts), so he spend the day in the airport.
Tattoos often mean gangsters in eastern Asia. In Japan they wouldn't let one in a pool, gym, hot spring or traditional inn if they see any tattoos, even a small one.
https://www.australiachinarelations.org/content/australia-china-tourism-relationship It is less well known that 700,000 Australians visit China annually and Australia ranks as the 13th largest source of inbound tourism to China. There are 15,000 Australian live in China.
and what percentage of those are migrants visiting family? what is the number of Aussies of non-Chinese descent who go?
thats fine. good on them.
Stop listening to anti-China media, you will understand nothing that way. It safe there, and wonderful to travel to and stay a long while. However, you maybe getting confused with America.
Tell that to Yang Hengjun, dummy
I mean with The amount of people crime would be common
Newsflash the government does not care about the average person They just care about lining their pockets as well as their millionaire and billionaire mates
Newsflash water is wet
Hey, shame about that little pandemic, and asking for an investigation to how it started. We brought the threats on ourselves, I guess. And I'm sure it was just a little misunderstanding when you've blasted our helpless navy divers in the water, and dropped flares in front of our aircraft. We must have not communicated clearly. But the relationship with our great friends,China, is back on track. Tariffs on beef and lobster are dropped, and we're getting a couple of new Pandas for Adelaide Zoo. It's looking just peachy. /S
Now now...... Be careful. The ALP are gods, cheer squad will not have you speaking ill of King Albo.. Be careful š§
The roundabout at the end of Northbourne Avenue (which will be renamed Anthony Albanese Avenue) will have a giant statue built of Great Leader Anthony Albanese, facing the Australian People's Palace (formerly known as Parliament House).
Disgusting.
Albo gotta get dem campaign donations from somewhere.
Ah yes more time for CCCP members to launder their money through the Australian housing marketā¦just what we need
Yup. I'm fucking DONE with ALP. They do not care one bit. Just keep turning the taps and let more people in. MAJORS LAST. Whats worse is these cunts won't even bother contributing to our economy at all.
What do you mean? They'll contribute millions to push up property prices and rental costs everywhere. It will help those poor struggling people with 10+ properties on their portfolio to make ends meet /s
I wonder what the Labor cuck friendlyjordies has to say about this....
Mate labor liberal there all fucked
He'll address the issue before smugly segueing into something about how the LNP did something, how Dan Andrews is still living rent free in peoples' heads, or some inane shill shit. The guy has let partisan politics absolutely melt his brain.
Bloody shame. Wish he could see past the majors. But FJ is just too much of an ALP Shill.
Giant douche or turd sandwhich 
I assume he wonāt say anything, because this is a paper work change not a number of visa issued change. How can you dim wits not understand the different.
The rot is too far in and idiocracy has begun, LNP will be in next sadly
Albo is as stupid as scomo, free for all Indian and Chinese emigres, selling out the country pretty quickly here.
What is emigres?
Looks like the Australian government is a large collection of CCP butt lickers.
Doesn't make sense, who wants to use it the other way? Haha
This is what you voted ALP for, fucking shit, I'm so sick of seeing Albo face.
Seems like our country is up for sale
I have a feeling China is going to be in an advantaged position in this agreement.
Much cheaper than a military invasion
Fuck these wankers honestly
Jesus christ wtf
Does it work in reverse, can we go to China for 5 years?
Id love to read what their think tanks are telling them
"Your property portfolio donors will love this. And think of all the happy families bringing everyone and the family dog over who will vote for you for making it possible!"
While its fun to think that i cant truely believe it without knowing what their actually told
Can you read Chinese?
No but i can figure it out if they are
Labor aligned think tanks donāt even agree with the bloody Labor government. Cause the current Labor government is just acting as how competent liberal government should.
A business visa isn't a pass to come and stay. They're issued for 5 years, but usually have visitor visa-type conditions on length of individual stays, and don't lead to PR. I've had 1-year business visas to China and India, neither has allowed me to simply move there for the year.
and when you were staying there, did you reside in a house or apartment? because just because someone from overseas is staying here for "only" 1 year, or 5 years, or whatever length of stay, they still need somewhere to live while doing so... during an already existing housing shortage
It's a visa for business trips. You stay in hotels for like a week, then you go home. It's not for people who are moving here. It's for people who come on short trips. This is EXACTLY the same as any other business visa. It just means you don't have to apply for a new one every trip. Am I speaking another language?
did you even read the article? the visa is valid on a single entry for up to five years, from a previous maximum of 1
A multiple-entry visas of up to five years means up to 5 entries, each 3 months max, and can only happen once a year. It's a common visa everywhere. The US offers 10 year multi-entry visas to China, EU offers 5 year multi entry and Japan offers 3-year and 5-year multi entry visas to China.
Seems a lot of people here can understand a business trip. Some of them cannot even literally understand a multiple entry visa, maybe they don't even have a passport to worry about this visa at all. It is a good movement for people who need to travel between countries for the short term and it is a common practice between a lot of countries.
And yet they will also easing access to family reunion and for some reason lumped tourism in with those to.
newsflash: these business visas are not strictly one off. i.e. they can be renewed. But hey for Labor sympathisers āitās just a temporary visaā so no issues there at all.
Can't believe we are getting in bed with China again. We spent so much effort getting away and not being reliant on China. Now we are Chinas bitch again. How stupid can we be to think China is sincere?! They only want our resources. How long before they start bullying everyone around again and making demands.
Maybe because thereās literally no alternatives?
Might as well let them live in the houses they own
Anyone involved is paid under the table of course.
Well , house prices are crashing in China . May be Australians can finally get a home in China since we also get the multiple entry visa to China . It is time we have a Australia town in Beijing and Shanghai
Isn't this 5 year multiple entry visa according to the article? Why is everyone here acting as if it's 5 year maximum stay?
They should make it part of the agreement that they have to invest in business not real estate. Not going to happen
Australia is already China in so many placesā¦ at least now we will have more mainland Chinese to come over and sort out any Taiwanese separatists and them pesky falun dafa religious groups. See you guys at the Great Wall or Tiananmen Square on Friday yay š
Looks like the Government will do everything they can to prop up the property market here. Every suburb I've gone through looked completely run down and void of any sense of community apart from sparse dog walkers out to let their dogs take steaming dumps on their neighbour's lawn. High streets are also in a very sad state. Driving down Victoria Road is a really really depressing place and this is a major road. The other one's are even more depressing. It's hard to believe property costs so much! Expect more immigration to keep Australians wealthy. Not sure you can say about the mentally healthy and happy side of things though.
What a dumb move. Albo is a disgrace.
suck me off china letās goooo
It's the same in the uk the rich jave got us where they want us
Honestly this is why people don't vote Labor.
I assume this is a two way street, right? We can just cruise into China and start a business there and buy property with little regulation like here, right? Unless?
āDuring Li's trip to Australia, he said China would also include Australia in its visa waiver scheme, allowing Australians to visit the country for up to 15 days without a visa.ā Thatās awesome news!
Whereās the friendljordies wanker blowing hot air up liberals all week, any comments mate?
Perhaps we need posters of Tiannamen square massacre all over the country. Pretty soon the CCP would ban the travel here
Get ready to learn chinese buddy!
China is Australiaās largest trade partner, of course China and Australia need to have a visa like this to promote trade. Are you stupid? You can cry about India because India is much poorer than China and India doesnāt contribute much to Australian economy as the Chinese do.
Not sure why we need this when we ship them natural resources. If 500k Aussies lived in China with another 500k planned to move the Chinese government would never sign this kind of arrangement with Australia. We are pathetic.
Ah yes easier access to family reunion visas with 5 year durations are great for trade and won't be exploited at all
i think we should be giving Billonares the massive middle finger Our Native Cunts already have a Huge impact so To take Rich people and not expect them to fuck with the Laws here is like expecting a NZ to not Fuck a Sheep Its just Fucking stupid
Tbf, Chinese Billionaires are not looking for a low price rental in a 2 bed duplex in the Outer suburbs. They will be in thousands of dollars penthouses etc. Hotels and Air BnB will do the heavy lifting.
Why does everyone assume they'll be looking at renting? It's not exactly difficult for them to get FIRB approval to purchase, especially with "I'll be in and out for 5 years" as a backing
I'm assuming Billionaires would never want to live in an affordable house. If they are buying they are in competition with other Billionaires....and I'd like to hope if they start snatching up multiple 2/3 bed houses there would be guard rails to stop that happening. We shall see...
This is in the context of China easing its own requirements and making it easier for Australians to visit. Multiple entry over five years is a good thing for us and them. There's nothing wrong with this in theory. If someone in China has a legitimate reason to visit multiple times that's completely fine. Why you're saying this means more Chinese staying here long term I don't know.
More Australians for them to lock up on trumped up espionage charges, more spies China can put in Australia to operate with impunity. Perfect plan for someone...
And you don't think millionaires from China will buy properties for their "5 years" and just retain them as assets?
They do that right now. Are you saying this'll increase the rate somehow? You know this is literally just making it a little more convenient for travel between the countries right, it's not easing investment laws.
Except part of the investment laws require them to rent it out. But if its their primary they don't need to What about those who are just using it for family reunions, think they aren't going to add to the rental demand? Multiple entry tourists aren't going to need somewhere to stay to?
Can I ask if you happen to be Chinese?
Visit China for the views, stay for the espionage charges
We already have rich Americans and other countries here buying up stuff. I'm not against China, quite the opposite, but you don't let foreigners buy up stuff here no matter where they are from.
Wow how not understand the difference between, have a 5 year visa as an option and giving out more visas. This doesnāt change anything, and is more of a gesture to China, you know fostering relationship with the big economy in the world, one of close neighbours. Not antagonising them like a bunch of country fuckwits.
Can you source a recent announcement on caps to certain visas?
https://monitor.icef.com/2024/05/australian-government-to-set-international-student-cap/