Being that the best athletes in high school will be playing shortstop 90% of the time purely due to talent disparity, this legitimately works if you also include college centerfielders.
Machado had been DHing due to elbow issues, but that’s cleared up. Luis will DH a majority of games and fill in at first if needed with Crone sliding around
A couple nights ago, we had a AAAA player with an OPS < .500 at DH. We need a good bat with some platoon flex to plug in there. This is an *amazing* trade to help the Padres contend without sacrificing the future.
Yeah, this sounds like it's a wicked good fit for your biggest need in the lineup. Twitter is now stupid and I can't find it in the replies – any confirm on who the prospects are?
I mean when it comes to the mechanics of GMing you gotta give it to him, Boegarts was a major major unforced error but by most accounts he was under pressure to make Peter Seidler happy and hand out some big money
In terms of scouting and trades, he’s been quite good at acquiring value and moving it around, Padres have rarely been left empty-handed
Plus I think early-season trades are smart, if it doesn’t work out and the team flops he’ll still be able to move Arreaz for good prospects at the deadline, and if it does work out then they get another team-controlled year at a manageable cost
Got it, then I think it’s Yuki who is on a 5-year deal, which I like even better. Go is absolutely someone who you wanted to see do well, but he just needed a bit more time and we had a very crowded bullpen.
Just checked and you would be right, Yuki's on a 5/$28 which feels pretty juicy, especially with how he's started
And agreed, I don't feel like sitting in AAA would do wonders for his confidence so makes sense to trade him and let him go somewhere he won't be blocked and can work through his struggles in the majors
Yeah, I like this for Go, just from the perspective, like you said, of getting the time he deserves at the MLB level. He has the KBO pedigree to deserve that, and for all we know it’s an issue adjusting to the MLB ball, so I wish him all the best with the fish!
I'd say he's more a combo of hinkie/colangelo. Capable of producing assets at will (hinkie), likes using them in questionable ways (colangelo), resulting in a pretty good team that just isn't good enough (sixers)
Because we’re god tier at accumulating prospects. Most of them never come close to panning out, but we trade them all before anyone realizes they’re frauds.
I also do think teams generally overvalue prospects. Unless you’re the Rays/Braves/Astros pitchers, most of your prospects will end up busting. Converting them for already proven players is huge
Yeah, who the hell would play in a ballpark with such a big outfield, or even a big portion of outfield infamously named for the typical XBH it rewards batters who hit it there. Are they stupid?
I miss him in Minnesota so much too. He's my favorite player in baseball. I'm happy for him and glad he'll have more fans and eyes on him.
Dad's are getting a real one here, please take care of our sweet prince. 🙏
Of the Marlins' all-time top 24 players, by wins above replacement, the Marlins have traded away 21 of them. Sandy Alcantara is injured, AJ Burnett left as a free agent and Jose Fernandez was killed in a boat crash.
Up until recently the Canes in the NHL were super similar. They didn't make the playoffs often, but when they did they'd either win it all, or lose in the Cup or conference final.
In 2017 Giancarlo Stanton hit 59 homers for the Marlins. No player has hit more than that for their entire tenure with the team since then. Jazz is at 57 homers for his career, so he'll probably pass Stanton sometime in the next week or two, but it's insane that the Marlins haven't had a player long enough that they've been able to hit 60 total homers over the past 8 seasons
Their two lightning in a bottle WS wins aside, the Marlins are an embarrassment to MLB. 9th biggest Metro in the country, yet 30/30 in team value. 30 years in the market and they are managed like the team plays Des Moines. A team in Des Moines would probably do better. Somehow they are just cursed with having shit owner after shit owner.
The funny thing is the Heat are only 4 years older than the Marlins and are one of the top tier organizations in the NBA. The market has massive potential, but it will take an owner that gives a shit about putting money in the team.
Look I ain't going to talk too much shit since the 2005 firesale/trade gave Boston a ring and my favorite player in Mikey Lowell, but it's telling they don't have a single number retired other than Robinson's 42.
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Tbf, they have a 0.9% chance playoff odds (down from 29% preseason). You’re going to get a better return when the team gets the player for an extra few months
You must not be old enough to remember May of 1998, when your Dodgers sent Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile to the then-Florida Marlins for Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, and Charles Johnson.
Kim is a better option at 3B than Xander is. As long as Bogey isn’t a total butcher at SS (and he played somewhat better than he had historically there last year, though still not as well as Kim) it’s the best way to work Arraez into the infield without Manny.
Everyone’s RBIs are going to get a bump. Dude hits. He may not hit homers but he’s is a fuckin menace. We just took like 5/6 from the fish. He was the only one who got hits
Ok so kinda from what I’m evaluating is that they may DH him (which he always should have). So their ideal 9 should be:
C: Campusano
1st: Cronenworth
2nd: Bogaerts
SS: Kim
3rd: Machado
LF: Profar
CF: Merrill
RF: Tatis
DH: Arraez
With the lineup looking like this maybe?
1. Arraez
2. Profar
3. Tatis
4. Cronenworth
5. Machado
6. Bogaerts
7. Merrill
8. Campusano
9. Kim
??
everyone please stop coming to the NL west we are full
I truly hate this goddamn division
I want to send Soto back.
We will take him
I mean you guys just took 3/4 against a Yankee team featuring Soto so doesn’t seem like he’s an Orioles Problem at this juncture
Loved the series, but he did land on Eutaw street this week. It doesn’t feel awesome when another team does that
I want Blake Snell back. Well.... even he can't fix this team.
The Padres seemingly have an endless amount of prospects available to trade at any time
How many middle infielders does one need?
Oops! All Shortstops!
Just draft shortstops and catchers. You can then just convert them into whatever other position you need
Pitching overrated?
Just field an entire rotation of Jacob DeGroms.
Keep it going in the minors too. When one DeGrom gets injured you call up the next one.
It’s DeGroms all the way down…
Being that the best athletes in high school will be playing shortstop 90% of the time purely due to talent disparity, this legitimately works if you also include college centerfielders.
I employ a similar strategy in Settlers of Catan. Grab a port for one of your most frequent items and you’re good to go.
Honestly where is he gonna play? Crone is 1B/2B, Xander and Kim both SS/2B, Machado’s a stud 3B. What’s their DH situation like?
Machado had been DHing due to elbow issues, but that’s cleared up. Luis will DH a majority of games and fill in at first if needed with Crone sliding around
Kind of an interesting choice at DH
A couple nights ago, we had a AAAA player with an OPS < .500 at DH. We need a good bat with some platoon flex to plug in there. This is an *amazing* trade to help the Padres contend without sacrificing the future.
Yeah, this sounds like it's a wicked good fit for your biggest need in the lineup. Twitter is now stupid and I can't find it in the replies – any confirm on who the prospects are?
Dillon Head, Nathan Mortorella, and Jakob Marsee. Woo-Suk Go is the pitcher going as well.
He’ll more than likely be the DH
Preller is a great scout
Yea. I go back & forth almost daily on whether or not I think he is a good GM/POBO, but he is undeniably one of the best at identifying young talent.
Honestly, I far prefer excitement and missing the playoffs over the usual just being shitty and missing the playoffs.
New Padre fans don’t get it. I’ll take this over 2009-2015, 1999-2005, 1989-1994. Dang early decade we sucked.
I mean when it comes to the mechanics of GMing you gotta give it to him, Boegarts was a major major unforced error but by most accounts he was under pressure to make Peter Seidler happy and hand out some big money In terms of scouting and trades, he’s been quite good at acquiring value and moving it around, Padres have rarely been left empty-handed Plus I think early-season trades are smart, if it doesn’t work out and the team flops he’ll still be able to move Arreaz for good prospects at the deadline, and if it does work out then they get another team-controlled year at a manageable cost
The other GMs who benefit from him giving away all their prospects agree with this.
If you can scout ‘em but can’t develop them, might as well sell them! That’s Padresing!
Are you a Padres prospect? No you arent.. you've just been traded.
What if you can’t scout OR develop? Asking for a friend’s organization.
can padre 'em but can't raise 'em
Miami is back in burn it down mode.
Every couple years like clockwork
Did you really think they’d risk making the playoffs two years in a row?
The cool thing about a top prospect is when you trade them away, a new number one magically appears.
The anti-Blue Jays
Dylan Head, Jakob Marsee, Woo Suk-Go, Nathan Martorella is the return. Somewhat odd trading a FA you just signed.
He didn’t break camp with the team, and I believe he was on a relatively long-term deal, so it’s not that strange.
It's only a two-year deal but the point of not making the team makes it understandable why they'd trade him
Got it, then I think it’s Yuki who is on a 5-year deal, which I like even better. Go is absolutely someone who you wanted to see do well, but he just needed a bit more time and we had a very crowded bullpen.
Just checked and you would be right, Yuki's on a 5/$28 which feels pretty juicy, especially with how he's started And agreed, I don't feel like sitting in AAA would do wonders for his confidence so makes sense to trade him and let him go somewhere he won't be blocked and can work through his struggles in the majors
Yeah, I like this for Go, just from the perspective, like you said, of getting the time he deserves at the MLB level. He has the KBO pedigree to deserve that, and for all we know it’s an issue adjusting to the MLB ball, so I wish him all the best with the fish!
Prospects are drafted to be traded
How are the Padres always making these trades
Preller is the anti-Danny Ainge
He’s Sam Presti in the sense that he has a seemingly endless supply of lottery tickets in the future to spend
I'd say he's more a combo of hinkie/colangelo. Capable of producing assets at will (hinkie), likes using them in questionable ways (colangelo), resulting in a pretty good team that just isn't good enough (sixers)
Great scouting and drafting (especially in pitching) is baseball’s version of an infinite money glitch
Because we’re god tier at accumulating prospects. Most of them never come close to panning out, but we trade them all before anyone realizes they’re frauds.
Preller is a great scout and a horrible GM and his job is on the line.
Preller has made it known he does not care about non top 5 prospects. He can always get new ones
I also do think teams generally overvalue prospects. Unless you’re the Rays/Braves/Astros pitchers, most of your prospects will end up busting. Converting them for already proven players is huge
Not every Padres prospect can turn out to be the greatest short stop in the history of baseball like CJ.
That's true, but he has no idea how to build a winning roster.
No disagreement from me there lol
Your team is a prime example of a small market winning team. Hope the next gm can learn a thing or two from the rays
Well nl west fans enjoy the most annoying at bat you've ever seen in your life
We already have Coors Field
What a horrible combo to think about.
Seriously. Him hitting to that giant ass outfield? Yeeesh
Yeah, who the hell would play in a ballpark with such a big outfield, or even a big portion of outfield infamously named for the typical XBH it rewards batters who hit it there. Are they stupid?
I miss him so much
I miss him in Minnesota so much too. He's my favorite player in baseball. I'm happy for him and glad he'll have more fans and eyes on him. Dad's are getting a real one here, please take care of our sweet prince. 🙏
He's a lot of fun to watch even if he is frustrating as fuck. Good riddance lol
r/NLBest
The best sub on Reddit because we got the best camels, many Mookie, Dinger, Noted Padres Superfan©️ Jesus, dank memes, and most importantly, the slammer.
Forgetting NLBest messiah Steve Finley? Straight to the slammer!
:(
The reds hate was fun during the offseason as well
This is bs, we already had to face this menace in Miami you’re telling me he’s in our division now??
Starting a firesale in early May is probably the most Marlins thing imaginable
Of the Marlins' all-time top 24 players, by wins above replacement, the Marlins have traded away 21 of them. Sandy Alcantara is injured, AJ Burnett left as a free agent and Jose Fernandez was killed in a boat crash.
They still have 2 World Series titles lol
Has any other sports franchise ever min-max'd as well as the Marlins have?
Tampa Bay Bucs have got to be up there
Up until recently the Canes in the NHL were super similar. They didn't make the playoffs often, but when they did they'd either win it all, or lose in the Cup or conference final.
In 2017 Giancarlo Stanton hit 59 homers for the Marlins. No player has hit more than that for their entire tenure with the team since then. Jazz is at 57 homers for his career, so he'll probably pass Stanton sometime in the next week or two, but it's insane that the Marlins haven't had a player long enough that they've been able to hit 60 total homers over the past 8 seasons
It’s because they could not give less of a shit about being a good team. Flair aside, its actually embarrassing
Jazz is getting traded before the weekend is over
Their two lightning in a bottle WS wins aside, the Marlins are an embarrassment to MLB. 9th biggest Metro in the country, yet 30/30 in team value. 30 years in the market and they are managed like the team plays Des Moines. A team in Des Moines would probably do better. Somehow they are just cursed with having shit owner after shit owner. The funny thing is the Heat are only 4 years older than the Marlins and are one of the top tier organizations in the NBA. The market has massive potential, but it will take an owner that gives a shit about putting money in the team.
Look I ain't going to talk too much shit since the 2005 firesale/trade gave Boston a ring and my favorite player in Mikey Lowell, but it's telling they don't have a single number retired other than Robinson's 42.
Right after we won our first series of the season too. the Florida Firesalers
Was thinking same. We swept someone? Offload the talent.
Gotta strike while the anvil is hot or something
Jesus Sanchez: the marlins are back. Bendix: the fuck you are.
Marlins FO be like: 
That it happened just as they started playing the A's is perfect comedic timing
Traded Arraez while we were in Cali in order to save money on the air fare. We're consistent at least.
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I feel like I should be used to it by now but it still sucks
After a season where they made the playoffs nonetheless
Kim Ng feeling vindicated.
[me rn](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHFiBiCWoAAmjwF.jpg)
Tbf, they have a 0.9% chance playoff odds (down from 29% preseason). You’re going to get a better return when the team gets the player for an extra few months
Marlins. Marlins never changes.
It’s May, Miami, trade deadline isn’t for months
My philosophy in life is that it's never too early to give up
Me at work at 10am:
Look at this big shot over here.. making it until 10am.
Not as much of a challenge when you roll in quarter past 9.
You all have jobs?
Me in the parking lot at work
Me when my alarm wakes me up…..
The lesson is, never try…
I can’t promise I’ll try. But I’ll try to try
I just fell to my knees in a Publix
Better get to a total wine
Get a pub sub to cheer you up
Wtf, when’s the last time there has been a blockbuster trade in May.
You must not be old enough to remember May of 1998, when your Dodgers sent Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile to the then-Florida Marlins for Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, and Charles Johnson.
And then the Marlins flipped Piazza to the Mets like 5 days later.
Piazza was traded twice in May 1998
There have been big blockbuster trades in the past in June because the trade deadline used to be June 15th but then it was moved to July.
The Padres will have every shortstop and 2nd basemen in the league by 2025
Gotta be strong up the middle
Banning the shift was the worst thing to happen to the league. We had planned a Great Wall of San Diego between 3rd and 2nd
And the Dodgers were going to pay for it?
WHAT
Oh? A trade at the beginning of the season? This must just be a trade for some random ass bad players. *Rereads players name* WHAT
Bendix I swear to fucking god
[It is ze history of ze Marlins](https://youtu.be/qUhuIV-Nptw?si=CjEDsRXCtRKKZXEl)
Holy fuck I'm a Tottenham supporter too, you can't do this to me
Don't the Padres have enough infielders???
So long as there are infielders out there, no.
Tyler Wade seems to be getting semiregular playing time, so I would say no lol
I will not stand for this Tyler Wade slander
Somebody forgot to turn off the gas on the hot stove!
Preller’s booger sugar adventure strikes when you least expect it
Preller is easily the most fun GM in the league. He's not necessarily the best but I love how he just goes balls to the wall
Good or bad, they'll make a Netflix movie about him. "Little Coke Reindeer" it may be called.
Marlins waving the white flag on May 3rd...thats just sad.
Jesus christ. At this point I’m just a fan because of the fact that I was born and raised here. This fucking team never fails to disappoint.
Same. I don’t need this in my life.
Same
Good season marlins
Par for the course
Ooops all infielders
Where is he gonna play??
Best guess would be DH probably when Machado can play 3B. When Machado needs to DH, shift one of Xander or Cronenworth to 3B.
I’d expect the rest of the infield would shit left: Kim-Bogey-Croney-Arraez
I shit more towards the middle myself
You know your team more than I do but why move Kim off SS?
Kim is a better option at 3B than Xander is. As long as Bogey isn’t a total butcher at SS (and he played somewhat better than he had historically there last year, though still not as well as Kim) it’s the best way to work Arraez into the infield without Manny.
Kim is probably the most comfortable of those 4 to play third when needed
San Diego
Shortstop
Never enough
In petco park probably
#PASSAN BOMB
What the fuck, Jeff?! I was almost asleep. (Just kidding, our game hasn't even started yet)
Can he play SS?
He can’t even play 2B lmao he’d be the worse defensive SS by several orders of magnitude.
But they might place him at DH since Machado is already playing back at 3rd. It would be a perfact leadoff man for them
I assume that has to be the plan. DH with some 1B. He absolutely should not be at 2B or anywhere else.
Yeah, our DH Manny's first game back at third was Pauley, who is hitting .125, with a .438 OPS, so I'd say he's a bit of an upgrade.
>several orders of magnitude POP, POP!
You know they're laughing at you right? I mean that's my theory.
He played 35 innings at SS in 2019 for the Twins
Wasn’t that the twins team who broke the home run record? Hard to believe he was on the same team as all those sluggers
frantically deleting all of the times I've called him a bum in the past
He isn’t a SS. What are you doing San Diego???
I'm happy my man got out of Miami. I'm not happy he went to San Diego.
I did a double take when I saw this. Has a trade of this magnitude ever happened in early May?
New meta. Start targeting obvious sellers much earlier.
Piazza was traded May 14, 1998 and then again May 22, 1998. Not “early May” but orders of magnitude higher of a trade
and of course it was the Marlins flipping him during a fire sale
Mike Piazza accomplished that feat no more than 25 years ago
Did the Marlins secretly win the World Series last year when I wasn't looking?
They're doing what now?
I love the trade deadline.
This is a very Preller move
Holy shit they're selling *already*?
what month is it again?
Take care of my sweet prince San Diego
What the actual fuck I am in actual shock right now lmao AJ never fails to surprise me
At this point, someone double check the Padres aren't stealing other team's prospects.
Why? lol
Because Marlins, that's why
Why not add Arraez to any team
This isn’t 97 or 2003. They have the ballpark now. Why are the Marlins in fire sale mode?
HOLY FREAKING CRAP
The Marlins are very unserious
Arraez has to be the best player to be constantly traded. Dude has won back to back batting titles and is on the move again.
Wow Marlins aren’t even going to pretend they can come back from this
Outta nowhere lmao
excuse me did he say the Padres?
I was told our farm was depleted Preller “want to see me stock it again”
Ugh……. I know a lot of Padres fans like this dude but I don’t know how to feel about this dude
if the package we send is light and he never touches the field defensively, it'll be solid enough
I kind of prefer a hitter who actually has power and can slug He’s making $10 mil. If the package was actually costly, I’d prefer to sign Brandon Belt
Everyone’s RBIs are going to get a bump. Dude hits. He may not hit homers but he’s is a fuckin menace. We just took like 5/6 from the fish. He was the only one who got hits
It's impossible to hit homers at Petco, so a contact-oriented dude who can work AB's at the DH slot isn't the worst thing.
Ok so kinda from what I’m evaluating is that they may DH him (which he always should have). So their ideal 9 should be: C: Campusano 1st: Cronenworth 2nd: Bogaerts SS: Kim 3rd: Machado LF: Profar CF: Merrill RF: Tatis DH: Arraez With the lineup looking like this maybe? 1. Arraez 2. Profar 3. Tatis 4. Cronenworth 5. Machado 6. Bogaerts 7. Merrill 8. Campusano 9. Kim ??
I'm just so tired man. Just can't have anything good on this fucking team.
The twins got Pablo lopez for arraez. Who knows. Who knows. These prospects could be anything. They could be an arraez