First of all, middle heli before now was always ranked for draft never for Marine. Marine was always just considered a subpar option with the exception of 2 specific versions it which it was majorly bugged.
Now with brickel being majorly nerfed down due to min lifespan and Marine being buffed only in relatively insignificant ways (especially compared to a lot of other stuff) it's even worse comparatively so I guess you could say it died, but it was also never truly high tier to begin with
It was SS for several updates until it slowly got destroyed [https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/14vnk2b/comprehensive\_tier\_list\_for\_chimps\_by\_path/](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/14vnk2b/comprehensive_tier_list_for_chimps_by_path/)
Psi can't affect ddts and zomgs, being worse at deleting rbe
Ben also eats all your income for breakfast,he still is the worst hero for chimps,but is at least better than xbm
Ben is surprisingly good on Flooded Valley.
Ben does not eat your income because of Light of Sight.
Then Ben deletes the difficult rounds 94, 95, 98, 99 and grants you free win lol
We need more maps like FV that allows Ben to exploit LoS
It would be cluttered as some paths have multiple tiers which are about the same viability (top path sub for example, the tier 3/4/5 are all about A- tier). I think the doc is the best place to put it
I feel like it would be totally reasonable to have the highest tier upgrade that is really good as the representative image though. I’d estimate that there are at least 10x more people who see the tierlist than read the doc. It could help with explaining the list to less experienced players, which is clearly still an issue if you read the comments whenever a new list gets posted
Glaive Lord becoming a genuinely strong T5 from being essentially the absolute bottom of the barrel has been a really uplifting turnaround lol. Wild how far this game’s come in terms of balance
# Information
*Huge thanks to* u/rohan_spibo *for the official Tier List Template as well as members of the BTD6 Tier List Server for their collaboration and input.*
*With Geraldo and the key support tower Glue Storm being heavily nerfed, many top strategies fall down a few pegs, allowing for previously weaker strategies to shine this update.*
# FAQ
**Q.** What is the BTD6 Tier List? How can I trust you?
**A.** [The BTD6 Tier List](https://discord.gg/K9V8mWvVuS) has now separated from the BTD6 Index and is now an independent discord server. The tier list is crafted by some of the top players in the game. It went through many iterations before becoming what you see now.
**Q.** Why does the list include True Sun God? Isn't it unaffordable in CHIMPS?
**A.** The tier 5 icons represent the upgrade path of the tower (in other words, tiers 3-5). So for example, the TSG icon is really representing Sun Avatar.
**Q.** How weighted is this list towards Black Border strats?
**A.** While older editions of this tier list weighted Black Border much more significantly, as time went by the list has started to disregard it more and more. This tier list now ranks towers on their best scenarios, meaning Black Border has little weight.
**Q.** Why is Crossbow Master so low? Aren't the C and D tier towers really good?
**A.** The majority of the towers are powerful enough to easily clear CHIMPS on lower difficulty maps. As a result, this tier list is heavily based on the True Expert maps with some consideration given to the other expert difficulty maps.
**Q.** Can I see justifications for the choices made?
**A.** [Sure.](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f-bfjJs7rbx7WicSilNCJbqEqFivqgrFiQyFrmtUYDk/edit) The explanations can also be found in the discord linked above. Any further questions may be asked in the comments.
# Added:
* Rosalia **→ B-**
* Despite being able to maneuver across the screen, the clunkiness and instability of her jetpack makes her suffer on harder multi-lane maps. Her abilities have extremely long cooldowns and are fairly mediocre, placing her fairly low.
# Moved Up:
# Towers:
* Top Boomer **B- → A-**
* Glaive Lord proves its worth as an inexpensive win condition, excelling on Quad and destroying many lategame rounds with its re-hitting glaives.
* Bottom Ace **C → B**
* Previously underrated, Spectre can be a cheap win condition with sufficient lategame DDT support.
* Bottom Beast **A → S**
* Giant Condor gets cheaper and also drags more bloons at once, and can divert and stall entire lanes of BFBs.
* Bottom Bomb **D → C**
* Bomb Blitz regains a big chunk of its damage which makes it a semi-viable win condition.
* Top Ace **A- → A**
* Sky Shredder goes back up as the best Ace upgrade when microed.
* Mid Ninja **S- → S**
* Sabotage becomes top tier once again as strong DDT defense towers, especially Glue Storm get nerfed.
* Top Druid **A → S-**
* Tornados are an extremely cheap ceramic defense at all stages of the game, and good damage control minimizes the slow attack speed weakness.
* Mid Village **C → B-**
* MIB becomes a little more useful as Glue Storm no longer eliminates lead properties from all DDTs.
* Top Engi **C → B-**
* Sentry Champion still suffers from low pierce, but the jump in damage helps it quite a lot.
* Bottom Engi **A- → A**
* XXXL Trap continues to terrorize any map with a convergence point using its bug.
* Mid Beast **A → S-**
* T-Rex becomes one of the strongest attackers in the game as it wasn't impacted by Geraldo or Glue Storm nerfs.
# Heroes:
* Glue Rat **SS → SSS**
* The Glue Rat ascends to infinity.
# Moved Down:
# Towers:
* Mid Glue **A → B**
* The only 2 tier drop this update, Glue Storm not only gets its ceramic stopping power removed, but also the ability to fully counter round 95, arguably the most crucial DDT round in CHIMPS.
* Top Bomb **B- → C**
* Bloon Impact continues to lose to Druid of the Storm, being more costly with a weakness to black bloons.
* Top Boat **A → A-**
* See Geraldo and Mid Glue.
* Mid Heli **B → B-**
* Downdraft pales in comparison to the much higher pierce of basically any other ceramic control tower.
* Bottom Heli **S- → A**
* See Geraldo and Mid Glue.
* Bottom Mortar **A- → B**
* Overrated, Signal Flare only decamos easily on ravine, and runs into many pierce cap issues especially on 78.
* Bottom Dartling **A → A-**
* Overrated, BADS and BEZ being on the expensive side allows for less spare cash in the lategame.
* Bottom Wizard **A → A-**
* Corvus gets hit again, affecting PoD as its best hero.
* Mid Super **S- → A**
* See Geraldo and Mid Glue.
* Bottom Super **A → A-**
* Overrated, Dark Knight is not nearly as powerful as Robo in the midgame while having similar strength lategame.
* Top Ninja **A- → B**
* See Geraldo and Mid Glue.
* Bottom Druid **A- → B**
* See Geraldo and Mid Glue.
* Top Spac **A → A-**
* Spiked Balls and Spiked Mines have become an expensive choice that is replaceable for many maps.
* Mid Spac **S- → A**
* Spike Storm gets another nerf, bringing it down as a midgame and lategame moab destroyer.
# Heroes:
* Geraldo **S → S-**
* Many nerfs to some of his key items, yet he doesn't drop down more than 1 tier since a few powerful items such as Genie Bottle and Creepy Idol remain very versatile for cheap.
* Corvus **S- → A**
* Nerfs to the two key spells, Ancestral Might and Overload at level 20 makes optimized Corvus even weaker.
# Considered but not Moved:
* Top Heli **B- → C**
* Bottom Spac **S- → A**
It is probably best to categorize towers into supports, midgame carry and wincon.
For midgame carry, the tiers can have rigorous numerical standard based on the saveup (70k B, 75k A-, 80k A, 85k S-, 90k S). It can be weighted average with the best use case having 50% weight
For wincon, the tiers can be precisely based on leftover (50k B, 55k A-, 60k A, 65k S-, 70k S). Similarly, a weighted average
It’s been brought up but that’s not concise or easy to understand. The explanation doc goes more in depth about the tower’s best role.
A tower isn’t just based on leftover or some rigorous set of numbers. Leftover and saveup can be a baseline but isnt the whole story.
>For wincon, the tiers can be precisely based on leftover (50k B, 55k A-, 60k A, 65k S-, 70k S). Similarly, a weighted average
Using that metric,orca is literally S-/S
Make sure you buy service area before the trap. Repositioning the trap before the engineer has its next one ready skips the delay between traps, throwing out the next one instantly with no cooldown.
Check the document (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f-bfjJs7rbx7WicSilNCJbqEqFivqgrFiQyFrmtUYDk/mobilebasic) for these, but it’s rated mostly for first strike as r100 is really short on experts making a lot of dps towers pretty bad on them. Since spike storm nerf it’s now the go-to for r100. Also, this is pretty niche but the splash effect is actually pretty good at taking out fortified moabs on dense rounds.
It was buffed to re-hit the same bloon if pierced isn't used up along its travel.
Also MOAR Glaives is fast as fuck now so it's an incredibly reliable cleanup tower while you save up for Glaive Lord.
Very good synergy with druids of the storm which are solid. Before I believe it used to just increase their Moab damage which was useless but it was changed to increase their attack speed iirc a couple updates ago
yeah I think champagne is obviously better than most of the fellow B- towers (pmfc, impale, esniper, iring, aprime, mad, sav, master bomb)
these towers look so incredibly weak lol
The exceptions are dd and cta (which are support towers and in a different category).
I also don't understand why Plord, EDef and TB1 are in tier B though
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I guess nobody cares about B and lower. They are not played and tested enough, so the list is not very accurate
You can read the document to find out why these towers are in B. Plord is still pretty good on ouch but the nerf to frags being able to hit the same bloon that the cannon hit is a big hit to single target. Edef is a solid midgame on all maps with top crosspath, which has lategame value as it can break open zomgs, catch stray ceramics and deal a big chunk of bad damage. Tb1 has been pretty good ever since it got stuns, it gets 60k leftover on ravine with striker and does decently well on other maps
Lol what? Schamp is nowhere near as good as those towers you listed. It requires so much support, as well as having an awful turret placement 90% of the time unless you block the area around it.
Change the special target of the tower. The bird will only drag if the target is further back than its current location so make sure the target is positioned right.
lets say you target it at 50% through the track. The bird will only peck bloons that are less than 50% of the way, but will drag bloons that are further than 50% of the way.
oh, so it has two attack types. So just place it to where I want balloond to get dragged to and have the other beast handler where I want it to drag from?
The main targeting (first last close strong) decides the bloon to drag while the special targeting (the green bird reticle) decides if the bloon will be dragged and where to drag the bloon to.
Anti-Bloon being the cheapest Super Monkey tier 5 (75.6k) just makes sense, the other 2 are just expensive af (TSG costs 500k and LOtN costs 300k for their tier 5s are just too much). Also, probably the best crosspath for Anti-Bloon is 052 and that thing can almost solo 95 and 99
Xbow master a D? why? and Superstorm S- thats wiiiiild considering how expensive it is. I have used superstorm a couple of times after the patch but i feel its too expensive to be good enough against the BAD bloon
Incredible lategame, decent earlygame, great map coverage
As the doc states her midgame is weak but the point is that she helps you in earlygame, you then buy midgame towers to carry that part of the run, and then you sac all those towers and now you have an incredible lategame dps
I don’t know much about the game, and I am also pretty stupid. however, I will say I disagree with Etienne being one of the worst heroes, as he is the reason I have 4 BBs all were done with him
You don't need global camo - many towers have their own camo detection, and you can use other methods to provide camo detection like x2x villages, top path sub, signal flare etc. In particular, it's common to get a 202 village and a 022 village to provide discounts to everything in the mid/late game. Those also have the flexibility of being upgradable to 302 (if you rely on Primary towers) and 032 (if your main towers can't pop all bloon types).
As for which hero to recommend... they're basically all viable, it depends on what strategy you want to use. So my answer would be: try out all of them and see what you like :)
Generally I look at the map layout first, choose some towers I want to use, then choose a hero which works well with that plan. Or sometimes the hero can be what you build your plan around. e.g. If a map has a loop in it then it might look good for Tack Zone, and you could support that with Pat/Gwen and a 320 village (or 302 with a 022). Or maybe Sauda would work well in that loop instead. Another example would be if a map has a long straight line then you could build around using Churchill as your main DPS.
You'll have the best results if you change your strategy depending on the map. It's also a great way to try out new towers.
Perhaps I wasn't clear - I was trying to say that you *don't need* global camo. Providing camo to towers within a small area where your villages are is usually plenty. Concentrating your towers in a small area also makes it easier to stack other buffs (for example Jungle Drums).
The other two I threw in as situational options. 4xx sub decamos fast enough in almost every situation (especially the 402 crosspath which is faster), though it's only useful on single-lane maps, and doesn't provide you an answer to r100 DDTs. Still, it's more than good enough in most cases.
I agree signal flare is not the most reliable, and I usually wouldn't use it unless I intended to get the tier 4 or tier 5 later. Nevertheless it does the job on any map with a loop. [This guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sga056d0q8) even shows it working as the sole camo detection (well, alongside Obyn's brambles) up to round 53 on an expert map!
Etienne’s disadvantage comes from taking up your hero slot. He alone is pretty good value, but other heroes are better value (minus ben ofc) and the opportunity cost of Etienne is higher than what he brings. You might spend less on camo but you end up having to spend more on damage towers.
Well, with the discounts villages provide, it usually ends up cheaper in the long run. Plus Jungle Drums is a damage multiplier to everything, which is a fantastic buff. But yes, you typically won't place discount villages until after the r40 moab since they aren't cheap to place initially. I don't think that matters much though, since the first hard camo rounds aren't until the 40s and 50s.
Also just a reminder that every penny counts on harder maps, which is why double discount villages are used so often. Remember that this tier list is done with expert maps in mind. Being able save more money means late game gets much easier, so double discount villages are used often anyway, and the camo upgrade is only ~2k extra. And on a similar note, this is also the reason why the hero choice matters so much on expert maps - heroes are your best value tower. While global camo detection is nice, if you can achieve the same thing for 2k, you can use your hero slot on a higher damage hero like Adora or Sauda.
just know that the rankings are considering the best upgrade in that path from t3-t5 not just the t5. people seem to miss that a lot.
to know which path exactly just find OP's comment and read the doc. it also gives a (not very detailed to be frank) description of each path.
expensive not worth save up and is chimps
anyway to fill the word requirement [here's a paper on halbach arrays](https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8724977)
Congrats GLord, you’ve escape the bottom and are now decent!
The capability to rehit Bloons is a total deal-maker.
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Gaylord is now a okay choice
condour is now up there with the staple supports. let's see how long that lasts 👍
Longer than one update i hope
WHY DID THEY BUFF CONDOR
it was needed
Because Maxed Eagle was better, and it was a lil strange so they changed it
That is not why
Obyn and Top Boomer are now fucking A- Fucking amazing
and people still want obyn buffs
We were used to Obyn sucking too much for too long , so we are still not over the fact that he is actually decent at worst rn.
Give me targetable brambles for some qol and I’m happy
Just have him affordable to start on chimps and he’s perfect
Never thought I would see the day…
The stacking brambles really do a ton of early work.
Rest in B- Downdraft, I’ll probably forget about you until the next tierlist
I mean at this point it's more so ranked for chinook
It’s so over (that’s kinda funny though)
Brickell Marine strat died?
First of all, middle heli before now was always ranked for draft never for Marine. Marine was always just considered a subpar option with the exception of 2 specific versions it which it was majorly bugged. Now with brickel being majorly nerfed down due to min lifespan and Marine being buffed only in relatively insignificant ways (especially compared to a lot of other stuff) it's even worse comparatively so I guess you could say it died, but it was also never truly high tier to begin with
I still remember when it was S...
It was SS for several updates until it slowly got destroyed [https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/14vnk2b/comprehensive\_tier\_list\_for\_chimps\_by\_path/](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/14vnk2b/comprehensive_tier_list_for_chimps_by_path/)
"snorm dd is still good sceram cleanup right" "sure lets get you to bed grandma"
not a good day for xbm fans
xbm got left behind by glaive lord and big trap 😔
yeah, but there are just better than xbm tbh
what does xbm mean?
the one tower in D tier
why us it xbm instead of cbm?
cooler
x=cross
How is it worse then ben
Atleast ben can delete tons of rbe,xbm can't even do that
Doesn't Psi do the same thing without being useless everywhere else?
Psi can't affect ddts and zomgs, being worse at deleting rbe Ben also eats all your income for breakfast,he still is the worst hero for chimps,but is at least better than xbm
Ben is surprisingly good on Flooded Valley. Ben does not eat your income because of Light of Sight. Then Ben deletes the difficult rounds 94, 95, 98, 99 and grants you free win lol We need more maps like FV that allows Ben to exploit LoS
Ravine too,he even had a ravine lcc on v38(probably still is possible to replicate)
Really interrogated everyone that surely SOME upgrade on the path could push C but no upgrade made it
When is a good day for xbm fans
I don’t understand, xbm is solid until round 80
Dots S- is real
What specific changes made top path Druid so much better? Is it obyn related?
homing tornadoes and some underration (ie people used lightning druid early before but it never occurred to them that it justifies s- for the t3)
What vex said and yes the obyn buff did help a lot (he gives the tornados like +40% attack speed passively)
Should use the avatar for the best tier instead of tier 5 tbh Otherwise it is confusing af
I think it's valid, but kinda unnecessary when the doc already specifies the best upgrade of the path
It would be cluttered as some paths have multiple tiers which are about the same viability (top path sub for example, the tier 3/4/5 are all about A- tier). I think the doc is the best place to put it
I feel like it would be totally reasonable to have the highest tier upgrade that is really good as the representative image though. I’d estimate that there are at least 10x more people who see the tierlist than read the doc. It could help with explaining the list to less experienced players, which is clearly still an issue if you read the comments whenever a new list gets posted
What about when two upgrades on the path are equally good?
Put the higher tier upgrade
Glaive Lord becoming a genuinely strong T5 from being essentially the absolute bottom of the barrel has been a really uplifting turnaround lol. Wild how far this game’s come in terms of balance
# Information *Huge thanks to* u/rohan_spibo *for the official Tier List Template as well as members of the BTD6 Tier List Server for their collaboration and input.* *With Geraldo and the key support tower Glue Storm being heavily nerfed, many top strategies fall down a few pegs, allowing for previously weaker strategies to shine this update.* # FAQ **Q.** What is the BTD6 Tier List? How can I trust you? **A.** [The BTD6 Tier List](https://discord.gg/K9V8mWvVuS) has now separated from the BTD6 Index and is now an independent discord server. The tier list is crafted by some of the top players in the game. It went through many iterations before becoming what you see now. **Q.** Why does the list include True Sun God? Isn't it unaffordable in CHIMPS? **A.** The tier 5 icons represent the upgrade path of the tower (in other words, tiers 3-5). So for example, the TSG icon is really representing Sun Avatar. **Q.** How weighted is this list towards Black Border strats? **A.** While older editions of this tier list weighted Black Border much more significantly, as time went by the list has started to disregard it more and more. This tier list now ranks towers on their best scenarios, meaning Black Border has little weight. **Q.** Why is Crossbow Master so low? Aren't the C and D tier towers really good? **A.** The majority of the towers are powerful enough to easily clear CHIMPS on lower difficulty maps. As a result, this tier list is heavily based on the True Expert maps with some consideration given to the other expert difficulty maps. **Q.** Can I see justifications for the choices made? **A.** [Sure.](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f-bfjJs7rbx7WicSilNCJbqEqFivqgrFiQyFrmtUYDk/edit) The explanations can also be found in the discord linked above. Any further questions may be asked in the comments.
# Added: * Rosalia **→ B-** * Despite being able to maneuver across the screen, the clunkiness and instability of her jetpack makes her suffer on harder multi-lane maps. Her abilities have extremely long cooldowns and are fairly mediocre, placing her fairly low. # Moved Up: # Towers: * Top Boomer **B- → A-** * Glaive Lord proves its worth as an inexpensive win condition, excelling on Quad and destroying many lategame rounds with its re-hitting glaives. * Bottom Ace **C → B** * Previously underrated, Spectre can be a cheap win condition with sufficient lategame DDT support. * Bottom Beast **A → S** * Giant Condor gets cheaper and also drags more bloons at once, and can divert and stall entire lanes of BFBs. * Bottom Bomb **D → C** * Bomb Blitz regains a big chunk of its damage which makes it a semi-viable win condition. * Top Ace **A- → A** * Sky Shredder goes back up as the best Ace upgrade when microed. * Mid Ninja **S- → S** * Sabotage becomes top tier once again as strong DDT defense towers, especially Glue Storm get nerfed. * Top Druid **A → S-** * Tornados are an extremely cheap ceramic defense at all stages of the game, and good damage control minimizes the slow attack speed weakness. * Mid Village **C → B-** * MIB becomes a little more useful as Glue Storm no longer eliminates lead properties from all DDTs. * Top Engi **C → B-** * Sentry Champion still suffers from low pierce, but the jump in damage helps it quite a lot. * Bottom Engi **A- → A** * XXXL Trap continues to terrorize any map with a convergence point using its bug. * Mid Beast **A → S-** * T-Rex becomes one of the strongest attackers in the game as it wasn't impacted by Geraldo or Glue Storm nerfs. # Heroes: * Glue Rat **SS → SSS** * The Glue Rat ascends to infinity. # Moved Down: # Towers: * Mid Glue **A → B** * The only 2 tier drop this update, Glue Storm not only gets its ceramic stopping power removed, but also the ability to fully counter round 95, arguably the most crucial DDT round in CHIMPS. * Top Bomb **B- → C** * Bloon Impact continues to lose to Druid of the Storm, being more costly with a weakness to black bloons. * Top Boat **A → A-** * See Geraldo and Mid Glue. * Mid Heli **B → B-** * Downdraft pales in comparison to the much higher pierce of basically any other ceramic control tower. * Bottom Heli **S- → A** * See Geraldo and Mid Glue. * Bottom Mortar **A- → B** * Overrated, Signal Flare only decamos easily on ravine, and runs into many pierce cap issues especially on 78. * Bottom Dartling **A → A-** * Overrated, BADS and BEZ being on the expensive side allows for less spare cash in the lategame. * Bottom Wizard **A → A-** * Corvus gets hit again, affecting PoD as its best hero. * Mid Super **S- → A** * See Geraldo and Mid Glue. * Bottom Super **A → A-** * Overrated, Dark Knight is not nearly as powerful as Robo in the midgame while having similar strength lategame. * Top Ninja **A- → B** * See Geraldo and Mid Glue. * Bottom Druid **A- → B** * See Geraldo and Mid Glue. * Top Spac **A → A-** * Spiked Balls and Spiked Mines have become an expensive choice that is replaceable for many maps. * Mid Spac **S- → A** * Spike Storm gets another nerf, bringing it down as a midgame and lategame moab destroyer. # Heroes: * Geraldo **S → S-** * Many nerfs to some of his key items, yet he doesn't drop down more than 1 tier since a few powerful items such as Genie Bottle and Creepy Idol remain very versatile for cheap. * Corvus **S- → A** * Nerfs to the two key spells, Ancestral Might and Overload at level 20 makes optimized Corvus even weaker. # Considered but not Moved: * Top Heli **B- → C** * Bottom Spac **S- → A**
Okay, when did Adora become S- tier? I remember Adora previously being one of the lower tier heroes.
the 35.x version of this list
It is probably best to categorize towers into supports, midgame carry and wincon. For midgame carry, the tiers can have rigorous numerical standard based on the saveup (70k B, 75k A-, 80k A, 85k S-, 90k S). It can be weighted average with the best use case having 50% weight For wincon, the tiers can be precisely based on leftover (50k B, 55k A-, 60k A, 65k S-, 70k S). Similarly, a weighted average
It’s been brought up but that’s not concise or easy to understand. The explanation doc goes more in depth about the tower’s best role. A tower isn’t just based on leftover or some rigorous set of numbers. Leftover and saveup can be a baseline but isnt the whole story.
>For wincon, the tiers can be precisely based on leftover (50k B, 55k A-, 60k A, 65k S-, 70k S). Similarly, a weighted average Using that metric,orca is literally S-/S
Hell yeah
Orca mglue tier is (not)real
Next update, mermonkey's gettin added here!
Draft B- now, it used to be SS... When can we see top alch B- :troll:
unspoken rizz: doubling the dps of many meta towers for less than 3k sexual harassment: defending ceramics
Kinda sad that iring is just b-, think thats the price
im pretty sure it's rated for rof
I think for both ig, but idk
How many iring runs do you think would take to change that?
don't know, i suck at bloons
ISAB !?
Omg im isab alt no way
i understand the reasoning, but seeing xbm below ben is so funny lol.
the spectre guy is prob malding rn
that guy glazes spectre so much
What is the bug with XXXL Trap?
Make sure you buy service area before the trap. Repositioning the trap before the engineer has its next one ready skips the delay between traps, throwing out the next one instantly with no cooldown.
It allows it to instantly place a trap back down, which makes it infinitely better at DDT rounds.
Middle path Mortar best damage tower, precisely as it should be. Otherwise I'd've heart attacks all day!
Even if it someday gets nerfed, it will always be on your heart
Obyn and glord A-. Robo not C. We are truly in the end times.
finally, this is what i was searching for, other ones were outdated
they take time to make
Why is Bloon Trap placed so high?
Read the [doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f-bfjJs7rbx7WicSilNCJbqEqFivqgrFiQyFrmtUYDk) x2
Glaive Lord in A-, Druid of the Storm in S-, and Downdraft in B-. Truly, we are in the end times
Next Isab video: can I beat chimps with only SS and S tier towers
is mid sub rated for first strike or pre emp? i know first strike is incredible for r100 but is it so crucial to warrant that placement alone?
First strike
Check the document (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f-bfjJs7rbx7WicSilNCJbqEqFivqgrFiQyFrmtUYDk/mobilebasic) for these, but it’s rated mostly for first strike as r100 is really short on experts making a lot of dps towers pretty bad on them. Since spike storm nerf it’s now the go-to for r100. Also, this is pretty niche but the splash effect is actually pretty good at taking out fortified moabs on dense rounds.
thanks!!
Def first strike
Haven't been in touch with the btd6 community in a while, how it the flying fuck is Glaive lord A-????
It was buffed to re-hit the same bloon if pierced isn't used up along its travel. Also MOAR Glaives is fast as fuck now so it's an incredibly reliable cleanup tower while you save up for Glaive Lord.
buff
Some people need to read the title of this post it seems…
happens every time
where did ur 690 2mpc flair go
sentry
As someone who barely plays the game anymore it is insane to see these tier lists. Like how is Obyn A-??? What gigabuff did he get??
Uhhh...... Totems now only place on tracks with active bloons? And reduced level 20 cooldown I guess?
Very good synergy with druids of the storm which are solid. Before I believe it used to just increase their Moab damage which was useless but it was changed to increase their attack speed iirc a couple updates ago
GLORD FANS STAY WINNING
I think mad and sentry champion should be slightly higher
u/SteamedAxolotlYum
wait i just realised the path is now rated for senchamp instead of sprockets that's pog
true tbh
yeah I think champagne is obviously better than most of the fellow B- towers (pmfc, impale, esniper, iring, aprime, mad, sav, master bomb) these towers look so incredibly weak lol The exceptions are dd and cta (which are support towers and in a different category). I also don't understand why Plord, EDef and TB1 are in tier B though ---- I guess nobody cares about B and lower. They are not played and tested enough, so the list is not very accurate
You can read the document to find out why these towers are in B. Plord is still pretty good on ouch but the nerf to frags being able to hit the same bloon that the cannon hit is a big hit to single target. Edef is a solid midgame on all maps with top crosspath, which has lategame value as it can break open zomgs, catch stray ceramics and deal a big chunk of bad damage. Tb1 has been pretty good ever since it got stuns, it gets 60k leftover on ravine with striker and does decently well on other maps
Lol what? Schamp is nowhere near as good as those towers you listed. It requires so much support, as well as having an awful turret placement 90% of the time unless you block the area around it.
Damn. *damn* poor poor dart monkey
Pirate lord and spectre is now on the same tier. I don't feel right...
Wow. I use a lot of b- stuff. I basically default to Etienne.
How do you use condor to grab from one spot and move them to another?
Change the special target of the tower. The bird will only drag if the target is further back than its current location so make sure the target is positioned right.
I'll be honest I did not understand that past the first sentence. What do zi change the targeting to?
lets say you target it at 50% through the track. The bird will only peck bloons that are less than 50% of the way, but will drag bloons that are further than 50% of the way.
oh, so it has two attack types. So just place it to where I want balloond to get dragged to and have the other beast handler where I want it to drag from?
The main targeting (first last close strong) decides the bloon to drag while the special targeting (the green bird reticle) decides if the bloon will be dragged and where to drag the bloon to.
Adora, Top path druid and Mid path beast all being so high makes me unreasonable happy
Anti-Bloon being the cheapest Super Monkey tier 5 (75.6k) just makes sense, the other 2 are just expensive af (TSG costs 500k and LOtN costs 300k for their tier 5s are just too much). Also, probably the best crosspath for Anti-Bloon is 052 and that thing can almost solo 95 and 99
The best crosspath normally for anti bloon is 250. And just so you know, the reason mid path super is that high is because of robo and tech terror.
index tier list my beloved
not index anymore 😔
wait actually wtf oh I see
Seeing top path druid so high is so nice.
wizard monkey, beastmaster and spike factory are all just "all killer no filler" huh. you can't go wrong with these towers
See, I don't know why so many people hate on XXXL trap in CHIMPS, it works pretty well
Well it used to be really bad but there’s a bug that makes it really good rn
Xbow master a D? why? and Superstorm S- thats wiiiiild considering how expensive it is. I have used superstorm a couple of times after the patch but i feel its too expensive to be good enough against the BAD bloon
Faq and doc Xbm is just pretty bad Also,stupidstorm isn't S-, druid of the storm is
oh ok, got abit confused since the picture is superstorm. And yeah i read the Faq below after posting the comment.
Obyn and gl are back!
Obyn is back, but the glaivelord always sucked until the last few updates.
downdraft buff when?
Why is adora so high up?
Ladies and gentlemen...we got em. W GLORD YES
XBM being alone in D Tier is kinda sad
Next update bottom alch and bottom village will get moved up to D tier
why is adora so good?
Incredible lategame, decent earlygame, great map coverage As the doc states her midgame is weak but the point is that she helps you in earlygame, you then buy midgame towers to carry that part of the run, and then you sac all those towers and now you have an incredible lategame dps
Ben better than xbm lmao
Trap in A??
The bug is a bit too strong
The list looks like a Star Destroyer with a weenie.
I can’t unsee this as a giant spaceship
How is Ben only in c
He has utility in nuking rounds 96 and 98 with his downgrade.
I don’t know much about the game, and I am also pretty stupid. however, I will say I disagree with Etienne being one of the worst heroes, as he is the reason I have 4 BBs all were done with him
Chances are if you swap out etienne with a different hero those bbs become a lot easier
Ahhhhh, ofc who do you recommend (also how do I get that sweet, sweet GLOBAL camo
You don't need global camo - many towers have their own camo detection, and you can use other methods to provide camo detection like x2x villages, top path sub, signal flare etc. In particular, it's common to get a 202 village and a 022 village to provide discounts to everything in the mid/late game. Those also have the flexibility of being upgradable to 302 (if you rely on Primary towers) and 032 (if your main towers can't pop all bloon types). As for which hero to recommend... they're basically all viable, it depends on what strategy you want to use. So my answer would be: try out all of them and see what you like :) Generally I look at the map layout first, choose some towers I want to use, then choose a hero which works well with that plan. Or sometimes the hero can be what you build your plan around. e.g. If a map has a loop in it then it might look good for Tack Zone, and you could support that with Pat/Gwen and a 320 village (or 302 with a 022). Or maybe Sauda would work well in that loop instead. Another example would be if a map has a long straight line then you could build around using Churchill as your main DPS. You'll have the best results if you change your strategy depending on the map. It's also a great way to try out new towers.
Village isn’t global, signal flare and sub are unreliable without mentioning that sub can’t be placed in a lot of maps, thx tho
Perhaps I wasn't clear - I was trying to say that you *don't need* global camo. Providing camo to towers within a small area where your villages are is usually plenty. Concentrating your towers in a small area also makes it easier to stack other buffs (for example Jungle Drums). The other two I threw in as situational options. 4xx sub decamos fast enough in almost every situation (especially the 402 crosspath which is faster), though it's only useful on single-lane maps, and doesn't provide you an answer to r100 DDTs. Still, it's more than good enough in most cases. I agree signal flare is not the most reliable, and I usually wouldn't use it unless I intended to get the tier 4 or tier 5 later. Nevertheless it does the job on any map with a loop. [This guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sga056d0q8) even shows it working as the sole camo detection (well, alongside Obyn's brambles) up to round 53 on an expert map!
My bad, that is so much more expensive and Etienne ends up dealing decent damage tho
Etienne’s disadvantage comes from taking up your hero slot. He alone is pretty good value, but other heroes are better value (minus ben ofc) and the opportunity cost of Etienne is higher than what he brings. You might spend less on camo but you end up having to spend more on damage towers.
Well, with the discounts villages provide, it usually ends up cheaper in the long run. Plus Jungle Drums is a damage multiplier to everything, which is a fantastic buff. But yes, you typically won't place discount villages until after the r40 moab since they aren't cheap to place initially. I don't think that matters much though, since the first hard camo rounds aren't until the 40s and 50s. Also just a reminder that every penny counts on harder maps, which is why double discount villages are used so often. Remember that this tier list is done with expert maps in mind. Being able save more money means late game gets much easier, so double discount villages are used often anyway, and the camo upgrade is only ~2k extra. And on a similar note, this is also the reason why the hero choice matters so much on expert maps - heroes are your best value tower. While global camo detection is nice, if you can achieve the same thing for 2k, you can use your hero slot on a higher damage hero like Adora or Sauda.
Ok, I should probably stop defending Etienne
looks like crossbow master took the place of glaive lord.
People are trashing on Top Beast, but here it is with Glaive Lord and Tack Zone. Take that, haters!
Vex alt confirmed/s
OBYN IS HIGHER THAN DOWNDRAFT THIS IS NOT A DRILL
They need to buff Bottom Boat/Alch/Village somehow so that XBM isn't alone in D Tier
why's Churchill in B-? (not as in "he deserves S-" I'm just simply curious)
kind of a jack of all trades master of none damage output
No farms included, L list
Woo I look at these lists, and I still have no idea why certain towers are ranked the way they are 😅.
just know that the rankings are considering the best upgrade in that path from t3-t5 not just the t5. people seem to miss that a lot. to know which path exactly just find OP's comment and read the doc. it also gives a (not very detailed to be frank) description of each path.
u/holy_pee_shooter YOU DID IT!!!!!
(He had absolutely nothing to do with placement)
u/Holy_Pee_Shooter_PvZ
You didn't even ping the right user
what the scallop?
i use whatever is fun to use
Benjamin should be SS
How is perma brew in ss tier when it costs so much? Is it because of berserker brew?
indeed
And t3
B brew is t3
Wait WLP in A-? Am I missing something?
faq
bro bloon crush is literaly a free win
On easier maps
Iring a-
i want a 4 page essay on why flying fortress is two tiers below sky shredder
Sir, this is a chimps tier list
Flying fortress is 5 tiers below Sky Shredder. It’s virtually unusable.
very sad one of my favorite towers in the game has fallen off
this is just for chimps where it's virtually unaffordable, flying fortress is still meta in stuff like bosses iirc
expensive not worth save up and is chimps anyway to fill the word requirement [here's a paper on halbach arrays](https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8724977)
thank god i was looking for one of those
Wait… but isn’t the 5xx druid useless for round 100 at its price? Why would that not stop it from being S-?