T O P

  • By -

[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Lol I can see someone just living with it on their windshield for the free data


zippercot

or, just remove the sim card.


chunkysmalls42098

Don't imagine the sim card works on your phone from another device


motorcycle_girl

You can pop any SIM card into your device, as long as the device is unlocked.


Frostsorrow

Not quite any, not all SIM cards are the same size


Easy_Intention5424

You can literally cut them to size unless some actual have different sized chips


jurassic_pork

https://www.amazon.ca/MMOBIEL-Universal-Standard-Smartphones-Adapters/dp/B01MDNZ1PV Universal 3 in 1 / Standard / Micro / Nano Sim Card Cutter incl 3 SIM Adapters + 1 Eject Pin


MechosByron

lol wow. Tell us all about it Steve Jobs.


chunkysmalls42098

That's wonderful, and entirely unrelated to what I said, and what I was replying to lol


motorcycle_girl

I might’ve misunderstood you, but at least I was trying to be helpful, instead of just trying to be a dick. 👍


Kobe7477

How so, seems very relevant LMAO


chunkysmalls42098

So the comment I replied to said, "Lol I can see someone just living with it on their windshield for the free data", and I replied that the sim card won't work in your phone while its in another device. Reading comprehension can be hard, don't worry


ZaymeJ

You sound lovely


justanaccountname12

"Don't imagine the sim card works on your phone from another device" Their comprehension is fine.


chunkysmalls42098

Yes, from the other device, while the barnacle is stuck on the windshield. Context clues


justanaccountname12

I understand what you were trying to say, but it's not what you said.


mr-interested

Defeated 4 years ago, surprised this company still exists, and that they continue to get customers.


Old-Adhesiveness-156

Sure but most people probably don't go through the hassle of defeating it and just pay their fines.


armoured_bobandi

I don't know why it's celebrated to break the law and then weasel your way out of consequences. Unless I'm misunderstanding, these are put on cars that have fines or are illegally parked? Yup, I was right. Entitled babies that don't want consequences for their actions


I_dont_know_you_pick

If you read the article, it was University students who initially defeated it, as they were upset that even though the pay an exorbitant amount to attend university, they have to pay for parking as well.


armoured_bobandi

And? That's life, sometimes it doesn't seem fair. Just because you don't like a law doesn't mean you get to ignore the consequences if you're caught breaking it. Of course entitled kids or man children online disagree with this lol


I_dont_know_you_pick

Oh shut up. Tired of you people and your internet arguments.


armoured_bobandi

LOL *I can't argue against what you're saying, so I'll just tell you to shut up* Grow up kid. Maybe don't park illegally if you don't want a fine


Propaagaandaa

Holy shit this guy just fucking loves paying for parking


armoured_bobandi

I don't like paying taxes, but I do that too. Grow up. Seriously


OpenCatPalmstrike

Maybe you should actually pay your way for a change, instead of using your views to push society towards low-trust.


StatelyAutomaton

Unless it's a carbon tax, amirite?


PaulTheMerc

> And? That's life, sometimes it doesn't seem fair. Just because you don't like a law doesn't mean you get to ignore the consequences if you're caught breaking it. I want to agree with you, but the evidence says that you absolutely CAN if you're a politician, decently wealthy, a cop, etc.


Old-Adhesiveness-156

The articles states it's only used if you've accumulated over $199 of unpaid fines. A parking fine is usually $50-$75 so that's quite a few unpaid tickets.


armoured_bobandi

So yeah, this is a consequence for bad decisions. Why are we supposed to be happy that people are finding out how to "beat" this?


Old-Adhesiveness-156

Well I have to imagine that anybody who follows the rules isn't happy about it.


PaulTheMerc

If it costs more to deploy the thing than the fees it collects, AND it's easy to defeat, I'd almost call it morally correct to defeat it. It's an insecure, non cost-effective product. They should go back to the drawing board.


LuckyConclusion

Because extorting students for parking fees is ghoulish. If you make a lock to prevent poor people from using their vehicles, they will break them, and good on them. Hack everything.


armoured_bobandi

You aren't entitled to free parking


LuckyConclusion

And you aren't entitled to clamping a disabling device to anyone's car. The courts have made this pretty clear.


armoured_bobandi

Then call the cops. See who they agree with


PLACENTIPEDES

Do you own the company? You seem very invested


armoured_bobandi

Nah, just an adult that understands that actions have consequences


crujones43

Is there any chance of this turning a stone chip into a full on crack in your windshield?


Horror-Tiger2016

As a former autoglass tech, yes there is a very real chance of that happening.


Flaktrack

They say no but with the force this thing is using there is no way they aren't further damaging cracked windshields.


-canucks-

Good question!


24-Hour-Hate

I’d be super pissed if they broke my windshield. 😡


NWTknight

Wrong market and wrong use. Anti Theft device is more like it once you make sure it can not be easily defeated electronically. If I was going to steal a car from a driveway I would bypass the one with the big yellow thing stuck to the windshield that will take time and effort to remove while sounding a audible alarm and does not depend on the vehicle manufactures shitty anti theft systems that are easily bypassed.


bots_are_creepy

Even if they could be defeated easily, still a deterrent when choosing Car A vs Car B. Good take.


GreatValueProducts

That's a good point, I would probably buy it for myself.


PunkinBrewster

You can defeat these by using your defroster to heat up the window, and sliding a thin piece of plastic under the edge to break the seal. YMMV.


karlnite

Damn, I always just drive in reverse.


SelppinEvolI

I just Ace Ventura https://media1.giphy.com/media/40M8MH9x9lDxaHA51d/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952tl4j61k6d7ipsqakt2xodba5h4pxxavmxivcmrps&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


karlnite

That’s illegal.


chunkysmalls42098

Bet you're fun at parties


SelppinEvolI

You think he gets invited to parties?


Kristalderp

Dental floss and some WD40 / Crisco works as well. Also; remember to take the SIM card out of it and then chuck the barnacle somewhere else. The barnacles are worth $$$$, and the SIM card inside is used to track them.


jacksbox

Won't they come to you asking what happened to the unremovable device they attached to your car?


Lightning_Catcher258

If it's a private parking company, I'd leave with it. But if it's parking enforcement of a city, I'm sure it could lead to some troubles to have an unpaid fine.


Even_Cartoonist9632

Depends where you are. In some cities the private parking companies can issue provincial/municipal tickets so they end up on your registration regardless of who issues them 


Lightning_Catcher258

I didn't know that. It's certainly not the case in Quebec at least.


olypheus-

Calgary has City and private parking. You can usually just ignore the private company tickets lol.


Even_Cartoonist9632

Ontario allows it, it's up to the municipality whether they enact it or not. 


alt66666666666

Ofc ontario would allow that sort of crap


L_viathan

Sorry, there was nothing attached to my car. Wish I could help!


ChanceFray

Anything "permanently" attached to my car... is mine. Have a good day modern privateer. Sorry about your luck.


Easy_Intention5424

Just play dumb


BobsView

"sorry never saw it, when i got back to my car there was nothing"


[deleted]

[удалено]


PunkinBrewster

The trick is to not damage it. Damaging it will likely end up with civil penalties


Outrageous-Estimate9

Only if they can recover it lol


[deleted]

[удалено]


PunkinBrewster

Your mileage may vary


kabor

*Vour


PunkinBrewster

Sorry, fixed.


georgia_meloniapo

Vour Mileage May Vary


Maximum__Engineering

Your mom's mini van?


B8conB8conB8con

And if you spent that time initially finding a proper parking spot you wouldn’t need to waste time defrosting your windows


johnny2turnt

Well that’s not true winter still exists


Hammoufi

If only authorities applied such ingenuity in preventing cars from being exported through the one port that everybody knows about. But no we get Barnacles instead.


leif777

You give them too much credit. This wasn't their ingenuity either.


Vtrin

How does this differ from tire boots which have been ruled [illegal to use in Alberta](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5036174)?


RadBreadBrad

A bit i found interesting from the article you posted. Canadian law is funny sometimes >MacDonald decided that since Cantwell honestly believed that booting a car in Alberta was legal he should be acquitted on the mischief charge. >But the judge also found that "the booting of a trespassing motor vehicle by a private property owner [is] illegal in Alberta" under provincial legislation.


Vtrin

Seems it’s [not a one off either](https://www.reddit.com/r/Edmonton/comments/4cwgax/booting_of_vehicles_in_edmonton/). Not sure where this is currently at but seems in Alberta the options for being a property owner with a parking problem are: 1) live with it 2) call a tow truck to remove the vehicle 3) call the police to deal with it And very clearly don’t deal with it yourself.


Lovv

Booting is not really dealing with it.


Levorotatory

What other options are needed?


Sage_Geas

Well... leaving something behind on some other persons private property does somewhat entail the idea you don't want it anymore. So, how about the finders keepers option? Sure, some might disagree, but I would be curious as to where they tend to park their vehicle. Perhaps... it might be the case they would be the ones losing said vehicle. In which case, my fucks to give are below zero.


Sage_Geas

I get told in Alberta that finders keepers is thing. I wonder if that will stay true for keeping automobiles left on private property.


ComfortableWork1139

You left out the paragraph above it where the RCMP told him it was a civil matter. I haven’t read the reasons for judgment but it sounds like he used the defence of officially induced error. If you ask a police officer about the law they’re supposed to be enforcing and their answer turns out to be wrong, why should you be held responsible for that?


platypus_bear

I mean that probably depends on the laws in Saskatchewan


fakerton

School’s lucky a rich kid didn’t collect the sims and go globe trotting while data roaming.


MustardFuckFest

They likely have a limit We use cell modems to send signals for automation and they are limited to 5mb a month


orlybird2345

You can also just ace ventura it up worst case 🤷🏼‍♂️😂


Vegetable-Course-938

Defroster on max for a few mins then slip a card under it.


sh0ckwavevr6

#lifehacks ;p


B8conB8conB8con

Or you could have spent the few minutes initially finding a proper parking spot and then you wouldn’t have to do that


DrunkenMasterII

What happens when you pay? It sends someone to remove it? Or they unstuck from the windshield and the driver just gets to put it wherever they like? How does this device differ from a wheel clamp?


IWHBYD-But_the_dog

Once you pay, youre supposed to be given a code on your phone to unlock the device and then bring it to some drop-off point. To make sure you do this, you pay a deposit that you get back when they confirm that you dropped it off


DrunkenMasterII

So they expect students to have the money to pay a fine + a deposit?


IWHBYD-But_the_dog

No idea. Personally i see this as no different than the boot, which is illegal in Canada, i believe, which should make this also illegal. I am 100% for using any means to taking this thing off if you get it attached. Absolutely predatory


DrunkenMasterII

I didn’t know that was illegal, but yeah it’s basically the same, if one is illegal the other should be too.


armoured_bobandi

Maybe don't park illegally?


_stryfe

Don't put your shit on my car?


armoured_bobandi

You know how to avoid the shit on your car? By not parking illegally. Do you get mad when you get wet from going out in the rain?


LuckyConclusion

Considering one is a force of nature and the other is you literally illegally mounting something to my vehicle, your comparison falls pretty flat.


armoured_bobandi

Cause, meet effect. Park illegally, you're going to get a ticket. Go out in the rain, you're getting wet


LuckyConclusion

Mount something to my car, I'm going to remove it. Action, reaction.


MustardFuckFest

They release and the app gives you an address to safely drop it off, on your own time, to be used to extort the next student


lololol1

If someone gave me a free barnacle I'm not about to go and return it


[deleted]

I'd be frisbeeing that fucking thing


JimroidZeus

Lmaoooo. Toronto drivers will just drive with this on their windshields anyways. Not gonna work at all!


DropCautious

Toronto drivers already drive like they have this on their windshields


Katamari_Wurm_Hole

🤣


No-To-Newspeak

The same idiots who don't clean the snow off their windshields and drive nevertheless.


ChimoCharlie

Drill hole, add water.


thisonetimeonreddit

What about people who don't have a phone that can scan QR codes? Their promo materials say it's not "overly punitive" but that's exactly what it is. This is absolutely absurd to use, and as someone else has mentioned (confirmed after a brief youtube search - easily defeatable) Now they're out money for their device instead of the cost of a piece of paper.


[deleted]

I would bet there is a backup option, like a phone number to call


Supermite

Is there a significant portion of the population that doesn’t use phones with qr scanners built in?


emmadonelsense

There are some people who don’t even own a smartphone. I personally know two in their 30’s. It was three but one of them finally got one and asked me to download some games. I doubt he’d know what to do with a QR code.


Supermite

Is that a significant portion of the population though?  20 years ago, this would be a huge imposition, but at this point, the vast majority of people who don’t have smartphones have intentionally chosen not to keep up with the rest of society.  I see homeless people with smartphones.


emmadonelsense

I don’t know what the percentage could be, but even if it is by choice, they still need a different option.


Supermite

I’ve asked repeatedly elsewhere, but just get downvoted, is the QR code the only option or just the most convenient option?  I’m willing to bet it’s the latter and a lack of media literacy is what is really upsetting people.


emmadonelsense

You’re probably right. The article doesn’t make it clear, but I’m assuming if you saw one of those on your vehicle you could go to an office and pay that way as well. It’s a fine, they want their money, I doubt they care how they get it. The last municipal parking ticket I got, I went to the office to pay(by debit) and there was an elderly lady paying hers with change. Like actual rolls of coins. lol So I doubt they’re gonna tell anyone they’re screwed if they didn’t use the QR code, that’s likely just for convenience.


Supermite

Exactly.  Everyone is assuming it’s the only way and they’re making it inconvenient for the very few who are technologically illiterate or refuse to use it.  That’s like complaining that we can pay online currently but not everyone has internet.  There are options that just aren’t as convenient as a QR code.


madsheeter

I've got a 34 year old friend that went back to a flip phone. My grandma would never be able to figure out how to work it...


Supermite

I personally don’t know anyone without a smartphone and have relatives in their 70’s and 80’s who can use them just fine. Regardless, everyone is up in arms over this, but I have an important question.  Is the QR code the only way to pay, or just the most convenient?


thisonetimeonreddit

Does it matter what portion of the population has it? We shouldn't have systems in place that make it impossible for those people.


Supermite

Is online payment the only way to deal with this or just the most convenient?  


Intrepid-Reading6504

My phone won't scan QR codes because my lens has a chip in it. Really only annoying at certain restaurants 


Supermite

Fair, but do you think QR codes are the only option to pay parking fines or is a lack of critical thought what’s really upsetting people?


Intrepid-Reading6504

I think it's more that this sort of thing exclusively exists to oppress the poor. A rich person will just shrug and pay a parking ticket without it having any meaningful impact on their life. For someone living paycheck to paycheck it could be the difference between them eating that week or not.   Then if they need to take a payday loan to get rid of something like this it can begin the spiral into homelessness. Fixed dollar fines are some of the worst, most regressive aspects of society 


Supermite

So is allowing online payments oppressive to the poor?  That’s all this is.  If you get a parking ticket now, you can pay online or go to an office to pay it.  Is that oppressive to people who don’t have computers or can’t have credit cards?  You’re also arguing a different point altogether.  Poor people are already at risk of parking fines.  This doesn’t really change things for them.


grandfundaytoday

Yes


Supermite

Do you think the only way to pay the ticket is online, or do you think people will still be able to go pay in person or mail their fines in just like they can now?


B8conB8conB8con

Or they could just park legally to begin with and they wouldn’t have a problem


Slowburns

If you own a car and not a phone in todays world, you probably have enough cash to pay for parking, or have no business being where you parked long enough to get one put on your car. And as above points out, just crank the defrosters and get out a credit/idk car and pop it off


MustardFuckFest

>no business being where you parked long enough to get one put on your car. The majority are university students parking at the university they pay to attend


arandomguy111

I don't get this argument. Parking isn't free to build and maintain. Why should students who don't drive (probably the vast majority) effectively pay for student that do? Spaces can also be limited. How would you fairly divy them up?


Slowburns

And they should have a parking tag or some other means to exempt them from fines while attending classes. If the university doesn’t do that, they are a shitty university that preys on young people trying to start life. Also how many uni students DONT have a phone/know what to do with a QR code? You’re making a lot of straw men here for something that’s not even an issue considering the premise of your arguement.


MustardFuckFest

>You’re making a lot of straw men here Absolutely not in any way did I even remotely do such a thing


Marseysneed___109

\>pulls out drill Not so fast nerds


Shoresy-sez

1000lbs of suction, you say? Not if my 1/8" drill bit has anything to say about it


Fun-Persimmon1207

Time to put a thin layer of silicone spray on the windshield, so nothing sticks


B8conB8conB8con

Or you could not park like an asshole


drs_ape_brains

So the solution for people not to park like an asshole is to lock them in the parking spot until they pay a fine.


B8conB8conB8con

If it means they will think twice about doing it yes. They are called scoff laws for a reason, unless the attitude changes they will continue to be ignored


lordhavepercy99

Not paying some cunts to put my vehicle somewhere ≠ parking like an asshole.


SnooPiffler

isn't the "ear piercing alarm" a noise violation that the company that put it on can be charged with?


HowlingWolven

Drill a small hole in it and it comes off easily


Easy_Intention5424

Drive with your head out the window take it you're garage and drill holes in the cups problem solved


86Eagle

Anything being stuck to a vehicle could be seen as vandalism. Also if I ever encounter one it's going to get destroyed.


Gimped

Do it.


Intrepid-Educator-12

i don't see any problem removing this.


Outrageous-Estimate9

Its plastic... I dont see how this can work... Anything could remove it quite easily. Drill into it, cut it, and thats assuming there is nothing that you can squeeze below to mess with it


B8conB8conB8con

Cool, set them up outside every convenient place that doordashers park and leave their hazards on.


ValeriaTube

What if you don't have a phone on you?


Mattimatik

Once you remove this abomination from your car, find the parking enforcement officer and stick it on their windshield (or yeet it through their windshield).


Intrepid-Reading6504

Another punishment for the crime of being poor. The rich don't give a fuck about parking tickets and have no problem paying them 


LividOpposite

The title created an image of lobsters in my mind. 


Jim-Jones

# Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet Parking at University of Oklahoma without paying was about to get a lot more expensive before these kids defeated the school's high-tech boot with a low-effort solution [https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/students-defeat-new-barnacle-parking-boot-skip-fines-and-get-free-internet](https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/students-defeat-new-barnacle-parking-boot-skip-fines-and-get-free-internet)


lunk

Looks like the kind of thing we should be keeping Hydroflouric acid for. That eats the plastic, but leaves the glass untouched.


B8conB8conB8con

Honestly, if the amount of time and effort that the responses in this post was spent on finding a legal parking spot to begin with there wouldn’t be the need for these devices.


MustardFuckFest

The majority are university students parking at the university they are paying to attend Universities have 20,000 students and 1,200 parking spots. So they park on the grass to attend their exams and get barnacled I've been ticketed for doing exactly this after commuting 50 minutes to school. Maybe if you attended post secondary education, this wouldn't be so confusing for you


B8conB8conB8con

Thank you for your kind words. You might think that those privileged enough to be able to attend university might be smart enough to plan ahead not get into this situation or does university not teach common sense?


chillyrabbit

There could be a separate discussion on parking fees and the appropriateness of the cost, but most people feel entitled to free parking anywhere they feel like.  Not like it costs money to maintain a parking lot in good condition, or using the cost of parking to nudge people to use alternative methods of transport or even alternative parking lots to reduce overcrowding.


_Connor

Here's a thought. Activate your wipers and then shut your car off while the wipers are still in the middle of the windshield. They'd have to take your entire wiper arms off (not just the blades) and sometimes this involves removing other panels on the back of the hood.


cleeder

[How ever will they get around that little trick, I wonder?](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1209315086/photo/precautionary-raised-windshield-wipers-on-parked-car-during-snow-blizzard.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=52Y3EdxBAAo-xw1-cqfaWBu8KH2xOMLsubJPbHlDa4g=)


hypnoticoiui

Good I hope they fix the defrosting issue tho


[deleted]

[удалено]


NorthYorkPork

That typically requires a time machine