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PRRRoblematic

Ask your guest what they want to shoot. We don't know their firearm experience. Maybe the want live out their Counter-strike days, maybe they want to fire military grade firearms, maybe they just want a hard kick to the cheek. Best way to know is to ask your guests. I think any rifle chambered in 9mm, 5.56, & 7.62 is fine and won't break your bank. I only have a x95.


Dummy_Wire

I always bring a .22lr, just because basically anyone will feel comfortable shooting that. Other than that though, I usually ask them what they want to do. If they want to try bench shooting at range, I’ll make sure I bring something with a scope. If they just want to mag dump into trash, I’ll bring something semi-auto with available ammo. If they want something with kick, I’ll pack a 12 gauge or like my 8mm Mauser.


Corekare

Lol, the 8mm Mauser has a substantial recoil for the size of the cartridge!


Dummy_Wire

Especially based on the gun. Like, I’ve got a nice thick rubber recoil pad on my 12 gauge, and I usually fire it while standing and it’s not that bad. My M48 though has a metal buttplate that digs into me in the worst way possible when shooting from a bench. My grandfather was in the Yugoslav Army for a while, and he was like half my size. Even just a could clips through it beats my shoulder/chest to hell, so it must’ve been really tough for him. He was a cook though, so I don’t know how much shooting he actually did, but still.


Silent-Economics837

having shot both 12 gauge slug out of a rubber padded supernova and an 8mm out of a M48, i'd say the slug has even a tiny bit less kick, but its more abrupt, not sure if thats the right word. Like it kicks hard but releases all the energy at once, where the M48 kicks not as hard initially but will beat me up more in the end, like I feel more of a continuous push with the M48 rather than a quick shove.


tekinbc

Depending on the rifle I've had 8mm mauser feel like less than 30 06. Although they can be close. Love the 8x57. I keep buying an old mauser, fix it, shoot it, sell it, regret it. Buy another and repeat. Just sent one to auction that I finished engraving and I'm now missing it.


hater_roger

I like to bring a 9mm pcc, almost no recoil and with a red dot it's easy to get accustomed to shooting it. Great for starters.


One_Income8526

Ive had mine a year and 3 months... still havent shot it :(


Dirk_Speedwell

I usually just rely on subtle yawns and comments like "look at the time" before getting guns involved. Even then, the kind of gun isn't as important as shouting "get out, I want to go to bed" with the utmost confidence and authority.


Viper_Offroad

lol 😂


NavyShooter_NS

I like to have a selection of 2-4 rifles. Always start with a .22 - introduces them to things safely, and without making them flinch (which you can quickly correct if they do show some.) Then move up to something bigger - 9mm PCC or .223. Fire a few rounds from that, lets them learn that there's bigger things, with a bit more zip, a bit of recoil, and lets them learn to use that safely as well. Then maybe 1 round from a .308/.30-06 or 12 Gauge if they want to try it (emphasize proper eye relief and recoil management so that they don't get scope eye, or beat up because of poor form.) THEN. MOST IMPORTANTLY. Switch back to the .22 to finish up the shoot. There's about a 90% chance that they'll have picked up a flinch from the fullbore (.223 or .308/etc) and this is the time to show them that they are flinching, and to stop it. Make sure there's some bulls-eye targets, but also some 'fun' targets. The Shoot and See splatter targets are great - steel is good fun (balloons if there's no steel allowed) then have them fire their last group with the .22 at the shortest distance you can, so they have a very positive experience, and a souvenir target that looks good to go home with. Do not start them with a handgun on the first time out. I've seen that go badly, thankfully, no-one was injured. New shooters do not have good muzzle awareness. Note - if you're using a semi-auto, when they fire that rifle for the first time, only put one round in the mag - that way if their trigger pull is poor (it will be) they cannot accidentally fire a second round unintentionally. Start with 1 rd, then 2 rds, then go to 5 rds once they show good form.


HutchTheCripple

>but also some 'fun' targets 2nd the balloons! Peeps love blowing up balloons, especially kids. Great confidence builder! Paper pie plates are also a good alternative if the range has a rule about targets that create garbage. Plus you can spray paint them after they've been shot and then they are basically a poor mans shoot-n-see.


Thistimetmrrr

All my homies love the Type 81, so they get the type 81


Rinse_lord

This..


Sonoda_Kotori

I always bring a .22LR or two, and a couple 12ga.


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.45 ACP 1911 and cz bren 2 5.56


Massive_Possible_898

Huge fan of this combo


PuzzleheadedDust7496

Sks and we're shooting steel target! Everybody loves the look of an sks and its simple and irons sights are easy to see through. Stripper clips are a joy to load into the rifle, loud and good recoil but not scary like a 12 gauge can be for some people. It's much more satisfying seeing the impact of your round off the steel too.  Added bonus if your guest can't shoot the steel they can bayonet charge it for a laugh. Everybody wins! 


SmoothCriminalAaron

1st: any PCC. 2nd: M1 Carbine. 3rd: 5.56 4th: 7.62x54R (give them a bruise to remember our fun day :) <333)


bubba_palchitski

I always used to bring 220gr rounds for my 30-06 on range trips. It gives a pretty good thump out of a 5ish-lb gun. One person shot it more than once. I'm slightly less evil nowadays lol I always start with a .22, move up to the trusty SKS, then the perennial fan-favourite Winchester 94, and at that point I let them pick from my milsurp bolt guns


Brandon_awarea

I try to start out with a .22 but generally an sks or type 81 is the starting point


DougMacRay617

B&T TP9. everyone loves it and it always turns heads


HeftyAcanthisitta204

There's something about yeeting 357 mag out of a lever action that pretty much everyone enjoys.


New-Fennel2475

I've got a heavy chassis rifle in 300 PRC. Feels good showing them a properly setup magnum can be a soft shooter, hitting 1600 meter target.


bubba_palchitski

What action does it use? I'm looking at building one but it's hard to find any relevant builds.


Numerous_Bat_4503

Sks.


JipJopJones

9mm handgun and my T81. Both are fun and relatively easy to shoot.


ovjho

You said no rimfire, but .22lr really is great for a complete newbie. If I assume the guest can shoot, they can bring their own guns and ammo. My fiancee loved the Henry lever in 22, and was able to move on to a ruger pcc. She’s tried a 6.5 creedmoor ruger American, SKS, and mossberg 500 for rifles and a type 54 tok clone and ruger wrangler for handguns. Every time we shoot, she requests the PCC and both 22’s and could honestly take or leave everything else. For non “gun people” they really don’t care about your FPS or stopping power as long as it looks and feels like “gun” and something goes “bang”. The other factors are how heavy is the rifle, how much it kicks, and how loud it is. For someone newish, a .22lr is great, but I think I’d go with the PCC. I put the green holosun on mine and it’s easy to shoot, comfortable, accurate enough, and just NEAT.


Ihatethegpushortage

Any 12 gauge lol


hater_roger

Always fun to watch them fire their first 12ga round.


New-Fennel2475

I've got 3.5" shells, they never want to shoot it again after the first haha


charje

Yeah with 18 pellets of 00buck.. I have yet to find slugs for it


Northern_Explorer_

Yup, the blast and recoil of a 12ga always puts a smile on a newbie's face.


JohnMcAfeesLaptop

With high brass rounds 😂


e-rekshun

They always get a kick out of the wrist twisting revolvers or spicy 45-70 reloads.


jeho22

Yeeeuuuuup. I bring my S&W500 every range trip, and I very much enjoy letting people try it. I load some pretty soft 350grn rounds for this, and then let them shoot some 440grn rounds at 90% max load


Beginning-Marzipan28

You can’t go wrong with a 22 and a 7.62x39


Canuck7099

12 Guage with a few bird shot shells then a slug last for a little surprise


Misophoniakiel

It depends really on the guest, did they ever shoot a firearm before? Do they know enough to know which caliber they would be confortable with? Do they know which kind of firearm you bring? No? 22 lr , they will have fun getting the hang of it and it costs nothing to shoot.


Daddy_Immaru

.458 Win Mag, time to ride the lightning


bubba_palchitski

I like the way you think


NaarNoordenMan

Henry H001. Even if .22 is not an option, levers kick ass


BigFootEnergy

Beretta 1301 loaded with 3.5in bernake black magic magnum slugs


tmwildwood-3617

I took a group of ladies (friends wives/etc). One had shot before...most hadn't. Brought everything between 22lr to 45-70. 223...308...7.62x39/54r...12g...8mm...3006...9mm..etc.. irons/scopes/rds. Bolts and semis. Didn't have a lever. Interesting...some liked the softer recoiling...others got a real kick from touching off a boomer. Most liked and preferred the semi autos...with scopes or RDS. Just easier and more fun for plinking/blasting. For kids...we always start them on a bolt action (to burn off a bit of the over excitement)...before moving to semis. Sks with bayonet extended is always a winner...everyone loves a bayonet. Having a "gimme" setup is always a good time. Have your most accurate rifle/load ready....and if your range allows it put some eggs out as far as you can. Exploding an egg at 300 yards will always leave a good memory for a guest. Or if they have a business card have them shoot a group to keep.


R4ID

I usually bring a scaling list. 1. 22LR 2. 9mm handgun 3. 9mm PCC 4. M1 garand in 308


Shryk92

No rimfire? Rimfire PRS is awesome. I shoot past 200 yards with mine


King-Conn

22LR and 7.62x39


pickledshallots

I usually bring a bolt action .22LR to get them started, then upgrade to my 9mm carbine. Then depending if the range allows, I’ll bring out one of my shotguns or my Lee Enfield


Spirited_Comedian225

My GSG is a big lady pleaser. Not to threatening and fun to shoot. Great for noobies


ClemementineSweetie

For first timers, A little 22lr single action revolver. Everyone loves a cowboy looking wheel gun and it's a nice safe gun for their first time with no risk of double tapping or losing control due to recoil. Then a bunch of calibres of hand guns and rifles all the way up to an m1 garand, cuz.... Ping.


Sure-Witness-9175

Single action 44 mag /s


Realistic_Ruin_1343

Nerf gun or gsg 16


AdDowntown3517

semiauto 12ga


surplusmonkey98

Ruger scout 308 great in-between for an SKS and 12 ga Recoil is felt but doesn't hurt with nice butt pad/ muzzle break combo


Twitch89

10/22. Mine's a custom DLASK/KIDD build, but you can get a cheap Ruger and they're great for beginners to get used to standard gun safety stuff before moving to the big ones. EDIT: Just read the post lol, ok assuming they already know how to shoot, my SIG P226 is a blast, or Type 81 SR looks cool.


Rogan403

Gsg-15 or 16. It's an easy to shoot 22lr that's got a decent size magazine but it's also cheap enough that if the new shooter did something to fuck it up then it's not super expensive to fix


bubba_palchitski

Problem is, it's more of a task to keep those guns operational than it's worth. Only gun I've ever sold. Had it for 2 months and just about every metal piece except the barrel broke on me, and their customer service was beyond abysmal. Had to get steel replacements made for most of the pig metal internal components. The guy I sold it to probably hasn't had any issues, but I was so damn sick of that gun. And it's not operator error, it's the only gun I've ever had break. Get a 10/22 if you want a semi-auto .22, it's tried and true, with a massive aftermarket


Rogan403

Yeah I like the 10/22 except that RCMP decided that every mag made for it was also made for a charger even the ones before a charger existed so the 10 round limit hurts me deep.


bubba_palchitski

You can get 25 round mags that don't fit the pistol


Rogan403

Ohhhhh. Really now. That's interesting. Might be time to finally buy one


bubba_palchitski

I believe they require a slight modification to the gun, I think the LGS did it for $70. They still work with factory mags. I don't remember the brand that makes them


Rogan403

Isn't it illegal to modify a gun to accept magazines larger than their proprietary mags are restricted to? Or something like that.


bubba_palchitski

Yeah, I looked into that, and there's some way around it without breaking the rules, I don't remember what it is off the top of my head though. I think it had something to do with 25+rd 10/22 mags already existing. Basically like this is just the Canada version of mags that already existed.


Rogan403

Hmm but weather or not those mags currently exist is irrelevant considering the 22lr ones are prohibited. Or are you saying that a 3rd party company basically made those exact mags but they only fit in the 10/22 now and somehow don't fit the charger


bubba_palchitski

Yeah, they only fit the 10/22. I believe you just have to clearance something for proper fitment. Took the gun shop 10 minutes when I got mine done. Ruger made bigger mags than 25rd, we just can't get them in Canada. So I believe it's ok because they are smaller than the biggest manufacturer mag, so you wouldn't be modifying to fit bigger mags than intended. And the aftermarket mag somehow doesn't fit in the charger at all.


theservman

Always a .22LR pistol and rifle. As for the rest, we'll see.


SecureNarwhal

if they aren't scared of guns, 223/556 or 762*39 are lots of fun (big bang, little recoil). 12ga with 2 3/4" TARGETSHOT is also fun when blasting clays. And those don't really break the bank as much. 22 is good if the person is hesitant, doesn't like lots noises or wants to learn more about how to shoot. or is obsessed with getting the tightest groups and will spend the day trying. but I've had lots of luck getting adults into firearms with my 7.62*39 and 12ga. big bang, little recoil (if using light target loads with the 12ga)


HeresNotHere

Martini Henry


Sweaty-Bite-8661

Ruger PC is a fan favorite with the newbs in my group. Before it became "black and scary" the CZ Scorpion was the cats tits for them.


Skoock

Always bring a handgun


azuser1999

Bren or FX9


itsyaboi6909

My coach gun and pcc.


owndcheif

12 guage with bird shot to shoot clays has been the crowd favorite (i have mossberg maverick and mc312), I was nervous that moving targets would be too hard but even when missing poeple were having fun. Black powder gets a rise for the novelty, i have a flintlock, cap and ball revolver, and single shot cartridge. They like the flintlock best. Rifles they seem to like whatever is easy to shoot accurately, mainly things with modern optics. I have an issc mk22 (gsg 15) with a scope and canted iron sights that people like, also type 97 with a magnifier and red dot.


Flat-Dark-Earth

We start with the .22lr and end with the 458 WinMag.


cutslikeakris

Everybody loves a 9mm carbine in my experience


Straight-Facts-GoCry

.300 win mag in a featherlite stock


outline8668

Aside from rimfire it's sks and Garand 308 because they can have fun without it costing a fortune.


MustardTiger88

SKS, pump shotgun, lever-action, Mosin.


MontanaBlack

I always bring Ruger Mark IV to start off, then Glock, Shadow 2 and end off with Beretta 1301 Surprisingly, 1301 is everyone’s favorite to shoot lol


Frocster45

For me it's my Winchester 1873 Sporting Deluxe in 45 colt. No recoil, really accurate for what it is and a 15 round tube. Lots of fun and everybody seems to love a lever action.


HutchTheCripple

Yes bring a .22. You may find it "underwhelming" or "boring" but for a new shooter it's a gun. Don't listen to the people suggesting shoulder/wrist wreckers. That's a stupid suggestion. The only surer way to turn someone off from the shooting sports would be to just shoot them. I've driven people out of hunting camp for doing that horseshit to their wives or kids. Some real "just a prank, bro" energy.


mdmaxOG

You need two, some fun and easy to boost their confidence and something insanely powerful to get the heart going.


Jolly-Ad-4089

A 22.lr in ahy shape or form. And then progress to what they feel comfortable with.


Fredninja22

My SKS so far


rcmp_informant

I bring the .22 lever cause everything about it is easy and cheap Folks seem to love the pump shotgun as well And a glock in rig with a dot. Everyone loves handguns. And it turns into a pcc


doolittlethehyena

I think it depends on what the guest is interested in but I usually bring my 10 22 a leaver action 22 a sks and I now have a ruger pc carbine that I will definitely grab. I also bring a lee enfield I'd they are interested in war history. And I bring my BP percussion gun. I don't normally bring shotguns because I feel it's a good way to have them develop a flinch. Unless they are specifically interested in shooting a shotgun I think for a first time shooter targets are more important. They will enjoy shooting at steel or a target that moves when they shoot. Something that gives the instant feedback. As opposed to shooting paper. But overall I think anything with cheap ammo is a good bet so they can make lots of noise.


Apples_and_Overtones

If they're new I bring a .22 rifle. It's cheap and simple to shoot, and a lot of fun can be had. But I will also bring a Mosin-Nagant for the "big boom." Any guest I've brought has massively enjoyed that chunky bastard. Ammo is still cheap enough for it, though starting to become a bit more scarce.


Gwaiian

.22 lr


Silent-Economics837

sks, if yalls are going to a range in Canada you might as well bust out the Canadian people's gun. Plus the crappy norinco ammo is cheap so you'll have fun without breaking bank.


LukeNoBaka

It’s either the sks or my mossberg maverick


Downtown-Ad9430

I usually take my .22lr Henry lever action.


tekinbc

Sks. Stripper clips and cheap ammo. I'm not spending more on guests ammo than whiskey. Otherwise 22s, maybe a 30 06 with a scope


MasterScore8739

Since 22LR is off the table, either the Raven or the Type 81. Everyone has a bolt action rifle or pump action rifle. Not many seem to have the “tacticool” rifles. If 22LR was on the table, it’d be the Raven with my 22 upper. Thing is a freaking blast and you can go through a couple hundred rounds and not feel your wallet flinch with each shot.


Schrodinger_cube

i normally start off with the .22 then move up to the 12g or type 81 as fan favourites.


Eisenbahn-de-order

I'm milsurp 100% so sks and SVT/mosin, maybe tt. Now if ammo price isn't a concern boy there's quite a few more I'd bring. I think any person should have the Swedish experience at lease once.


thedog1914

I only own semi-autos. Any guest I've taken to the range likes the T-81 or RDB. My more knowledgeable guests love my M1 carbine. And - I always bring a handgun. Rifles people tend to be "familiar" with ...hunting etc. But a lot of people I know never fired a handgun.


wallytucker

That would either be my 10/22 or my RPR in 17 hmr


New-Entrance7841

If a man, bring PUBG, CS, CoD guns; if a girl, just bring .22 to 9mm max, they 80% won't try larger caliber, too scary.


Professional-Fly892

Type 81 and a handy (because that’s what most people want to shoot, in my experience).


blumhagen

For me it’s my browning bl22. Especially if they’ve never shot at all it’s no recoil and very low chance of an ND.