If you’re already looking for things that won’t take more than 4-5 years to complete , could you not just continue your education to become an actual physical therapist ? Also you can definitely make 80K as a PTA the fact that you’ve only been doing it for 2 years and you make 62K , you’re already close. It would make more sense just to aim towards working for more high profile companies that pay more and even tuition assistance to continue on to becoming a physical therapist.
There are only 2 programs in the country that offer a true transition from PTA to PT. Unfortunately even those programs are still as long as PT school. And just as expensive. Realistically a PTA to PT is basically a career change .
I still think career wise that’s a better option than completely going for something different , especially since OP is already making 62K within two years or having gotten certified. All she would need to do is go find a bachelors program most likely majoring in applied science and minoring in biology but she can speak to the a councilor to find out what credit transfer over. And that would be 5 years if she already has an associates. I would always encourage a person to just dive deeper with what they already have , especially if it’s already paying off then doing a complete flip. And like I said there are many hospitals that literally pay for your college. They’d essentially pay her to go back to school. And her salary would be increasing for sure.
Unfortunately like the person above said there is very few schools that offer a PTA to PT bridge program in the states, going back for PT without a bridge program will probably be my only option. I work at a hospital that offers loan repayment assistance so that would help with the large amount of debt that PT schools gets you into. But yes this is one of my options as of now, just looking into more things before I decide.
Well yes that’s what I was referring to . Just going back to school normally and finding a school that will accept most if not all of your credits from your PTA studies. If you’re already making 62K in two years as a PTA then just putting in the extra work in your field is definitely the better option and you can actually make 80K as a PTA as well , in my state top earners in your field make 83K while the average is between 62 and 73 K. And there is virtually no industry that you can step info without experience in the next 4-5 years that’s going to get you to 80K faster than what you’re already doing. Unless make something like law school.
PTA to PT is not an upward progression it’s a complete career change. It’s like telling an RN to become a surgeon. The ROI to become a physical therapist is just not there. OP would need to got through a total of 5 to 7 years of schooling to become a doctor of physical therapy if they already don’t have a bachelors degree. Getting into a physical therapy school is a big IF in itself. They would need to spend upward of $80k-$200k in tuition alone only to make about the same as they are making right now as an entry level physical therapist. This definitely isn’t the advice OP needs and I’m sure has heavily considered already.
If she has her associates then she’s already a part of the way there and RN to surgeon is a terrible analogy, it would be more like a paralegal becoming an attorney. It’s not a complete career change because similar to paralegals PTA ‘s essentially do most of the work in a clinic while the PT signs off on things. Also if she is already willing to do something that will give her a turn around in 5 years then yes this makes sense. Not to mention as I believe I stated before , many hospitals have tuition reimbursement and will pay you to continue your education. Since she is already close to making her ideal salary , my point was is in the long wrong it would make more sense for her to continue in her industry then jump industries completely and potentially start at a lower pay because her background is not cohesive to what she will be doing next if she completely changes. Yes she could get a certificate in something but she would still be starting off entry level , having wasted a same or similar amount of time to get back up to 80k, when she’s already making 62K now. She can dig her heels into her current career and be making 70K in the next year or two , while exploring options to become a PT and possibly get it all payed for.
Not really. Both are associates degrees. And the truth is you don’t need a specific associates or bachelors degree in order to become an MD or a DPT a long as you complete specified requirements. A person with a geology bachelors degree can get into either program. For example, an associates in nursing is an entry level nursing degree with education progression being BSN and then masters or doctorate in nursing. Again PTA is not an entry level degree in becoming a DPT. They are both in the rehab profession but they are separate jobs. I doubt hospitals are reimbursing much to become a physical therapist. If they are it’s to lock you into a contract to work there for a decade. Hospitals don’t pay physical therapist much tbh. I think it’s comical to suggest OP spend nearly 200k on an education only to cap out making $33-$40 an hour in a hospital that promises to pay off your loans if you dedicate your life to them for a decade. Many companies in different healthcare fields pay for continuing education courses that is required to maintain licensure regardless of it’s the outpatient or inpatient setting. Regardless of what OP choose (even DPT) would mean restarting from scratch into a new career.
Edit: typo, spelling
This person refuses to accept that PTA is not a preliminary for PT. It’s a different job. It’s pretty insulting when people ask if you want to be a PT. You can see the look on a PTAs face every time a patients asks if they are going back to school for PT. very belittling
What do you mean “working on the girl”? (Unless it’s a typo).
Where do you live? What’s the average salary (where you live) for your current position and is there any room for growth?
I’d suggest staying in the medical field since you have experience and usually medical jobs have good job security and a lot of positions make great money. Look up job postings in your area and get the salary ranges. For the ones paying $80+k per year, look up what is required to do those jobs. For example, you find a job posting for X (job title) that pays an annual salary of $85k/year. Look up what you’d need to do (college degree? Certification? Training? Experience? etc.) and if these requirements are realistically something you can do, add it to a list of “Career Possibilities”. If the requirements are too much (like for me, I wouldn’t want to go to medical school personally) then add it to a list of “No” and move on to the next listing and so on. Check out different job titles, too.
Also Google medical careers and medical certifications or training. A lot of schools have financial aid and assistance if you need it, and they can tell you the average salary of each job they provide training for and should be able to answer any questions you might have.
Career Firefighter. Assuming you don't live in the SE United States, you won't start out making that but after a few years you will. Most departments are either 24/48 or 48/96 averages out to about 10 days a month working. After 20 years you get a pension, hell my department even has retiree insurance.
62k for 24 y/o is really good. As you gain more experience and move upwards, 100k isn't an issue.
I am not sure what your advancement looks like but look at linked in and figure it out from there.
Respiratory therapists are suppose to make pretty good money! I don’t think there is a whole lot of school for it either. My old roommate was a surgery tech and she made great money.
Depending on which industry you are in, it's a fun atmosphere. I'm in medical sales now, and I get to see my product affect patients on the spot, and it is fun and really rewarding. But I did windshield replacement sales in college and they was ROUGH. So it really depends which direction but it could be awesome!
I started in telecom doing retail sales over 11 years ago. Over 80k even back then. Moved onto leadership then B2B. Great career, lots of money, benefits etc. was making more than most doctors pretty fast.
Quotas aren’t for everyone, but if you study sales like any other profession and have the personality for it there is lots of money to be made, and tons of job security. Everyone needs a good salesperson (lots of bad ones out there), and carrying a bag funds the journey for all the no -quotad employees. If you are carrying a quota, and succeeding, you’re the last to get cut for sure
I’ve found that I’m better at selling tangible things. I’d say I’m below average at speaking in business terms so software sales I think is a poor choice for me. So I’d say knowing yourself is important. You certainly want to sell something you’re comfortable with and like to learn/talk about. Or at least have a mild interest in… I could expand more depending on what you like…
My little sister did a 10-month coding boot camp and got a job within a month that made 85k, and that was at 20 yrs old. She's 22 yrs old now, and her job has given her a 5k raise each year since, so she makes 95k. She works up north in Pennsylvania.
She said she boot camp is called "Code Differently."
She texted me this:
"Yea, a 5 month coding boot camp , they focused on the foundations of coding that you'd need for a career instead of all the ins and outs that you learn in college and most likely won't use . The coding boot camp introduced me to and prepared me fully for the company I ended up working for."
So there you go ☺️ hopefully this helps.
As someone working in tech now, if it’s a coding bootcamp, it’s probably python, if not it should be. Keep in mind, they have HELLA projects and lessons for free on YouTube. Find an instructor that moves at your speed and commit to it. Find resume projects, get a GitHub created. You can have ChatGPT create you a study curriculum that’s very effective for free. Use your resources before you spend your resources if that makes any sense
Theres a local community college near me that has a hvac program. Is it better to be one of those repair service guys that drives around to residential and commercial. Or someone that does work in a big company?
Go talk to your local union, I’m union but I’m not one to push anything on anyone. Go talk to them they’ll tell you total package with benefits hourly on the check etc the. Make your decision
Depends on the person and what you want out of it. I personally could never do on call work, which is a thing at some repair/service companies, but you may find one where you’re only fixing shit 7-3 or whatever. Installing can be boring and soul sucking from what I’ve heard, but you make good money and it’s steady hours.
Yep. My husband used to be a Physical Therapist Assistant, and now he’s a Master Electrician. Depending on the amount of overtime he works, he’s made $109,000-$139,000 a year the past few years.
The PTA background has definitely come in handy to mitigate any health issues.
His job now involves a bit more waiting for orders to come in than it used to so he sits more, but he also recently got back into soccer and is trying to watch his health in general (he’s 46).
I’m a firefighter in NJ. I make a little over 100k but my schedule allows me to work a part time job, between that and overtime I average around 150k and still have a lot of flexibility.
Only if you have plenty of experience. Entry level positions are scarce because of the high turnover due to people seeking a 6 figure income at the beginning of their career (I.e. 6-12 months of working and they leave).
Yes and no. Entry level positions are scarce because they keep raising the bar for entry level positions. It used to be that all you needed was a few good certs and a home lab to get started. Not you need a masters degree, 5 certs, a home lab, and an internship to be seriously considered for entry level positions. Cyber is advertised as an easy to get in career. Thats just not reality anymore, but the marketing for the industry has not changed. The high turnover is because of staffing shortages from the higher bar, leading to companies poaching workers from each other, overworking and burning their employees out, and the economy is wack right now.
Ill be honest, i worked pretty damn hard to get where I am within the past 3 years. I worked for an MSP while in college, then a network engineer, then an ISSO, then a SOC analyst. While putting in a lot of hours outside of work, but I made it happen.
Cyber has about 20% job growth at the moment, and if you look at the increase in cybercrime in the past 4 years, youd understand why. A lot of entry level gigs that, yes, do require some experience but there are so many ways to self teach besides college. Such as TryHackMe, HackTheBox, AceResponder, Blue Team Level 1. You can teach yourself PS scripting and Python scripting, and youd be able to ace any entry level Cyber job. The world is your oyster.
im sorry youre downvoting me, but thats like me saying there arent jobs in finance when i clearly dont work in finance, if you dont work in cyber, how do you know the job market?
I’m not sure who was downvoting you but it wasn’t me.Additionally, I do work in cyber —in the private sector and I’m saying what I’ve seen. As well as what leaders complain about.
But if you have people leaving entry positions for higher paying jobs that means there are entry positions open. lol - Statistically speaking, worldwide, cybersecurity field is growing. With that said, its up to your management to work with HR and Accounting to help facilitate creating entry level positions that make sense.
Depends on my old chair’s budget 🙂. We may demolish the old chair.
I’m not saying this to be argumentative. It literally happened at my job. We lost 2 jr. analysts and they opened up a lead and a sr position.
I’ve also seen where they just don’t get a req after
Untrue.... i make six figures and finished my degree in 2022 (i started my cyber degree in 2021), i also work for the government. I also have about 6 certifications since starting in IT (2021). Im now a Sr. Threat Hunting Analyst with the government.
Aircraft Maintenance. 2 years after graduating from A&P school, I went to work at a 3M plant as a Maintenance Technician due to getting laid off for COVID. I made about $90k a year for the 2 years I was there. 2 years into working for a major airline, I’m making about $85k/yr with only 40hrs/wk. plenty more raises to come.
I’m a PTA also and in the same process of career modification. I’ve considered PA school before but the additional debt wasn’t ideal. Lately I’m looking more into the IT side of things, as it’s more of a natural interest to me, but I’m being cautious with assessing how much AI is being implemented overall. Personally, I want something where I can be mobile in the future, however my salary desires are similar with yours. If you’re willing to go back to school, look into any type of engineering program. If you want to stay in healthcare, maybe even CT or MRI tech could interest you also. A lot can be done online while you work too. Regardless what it is, be sure you’re going to enjoy it. PT isn’t a field I would honestly recommend to anyone anymore. Very unfortunate it’s come to that…. Good luck!
Nothing is guaranteed. Figure out what you like to do or constantly chase maybes.
I could say X job does and by the time you get the proper training, certification or schooling it's changed.
Working just for money is what will lead most people to u unfulfilled life became your only reason to have a job is to make X dollars. Learn to enjoy work as it will take up a large percent of your time.
almost every, cause it depends on YOE. if you are asking of fresher level than mostly software (tech) people, doctors, researchers, consultant at big companies and all
Almost any trade if you get with a good company. I’m in a medium cost of living area and made 78 the 5th year in my trade (smart home automation/integration/low voltage.) This year I’ll make in the 90s.
Oh I agree. If there were union jobs available in my area for my trade I would join, I’m not anti-union in the slightest.
I’ve jumped from low 40s to probably mid-90s this year (6th year in) because I’ve learned very fast and I invested in myself by asking plenty of questions. I can troubleshoot/configure/program almost anything in my induesty nowadays and if I can’t I can learn how to quickly.
You don’t experience that type of wage growth just pulling cable and installing field-end equipment.
Orthotics and Prosthetics. If you already have an undergrad degree, the masters OP is 2 years and then 2 years of residency which is a paid position at a clinic somewhere.
It’s all patient care and your PT background would be really helpful.
I say that half of my job is arts and crafts and the other part is science (anatomy, physics and biomechanics)
I am 11 years in and making 105k
Im interested in this, recently started catching my interest. I have an associates in health sciences plus my PTA associates I guess. Assuming I go back for a bachelors for about 2 years I’m guessing, how long is the actual program to become AA? I know there are different ways to get to this like going through the Registered Nurse route.
I don’t know really. I know there is the masters route if you have a bachelors degree. The MS is two years. I just recently looked into it because I had never heard of it and was curious.
Def look into an apprenticeship. That’s very broad but carpentry, electrician, plumber are big but welding, hvac etc are less talked about but still paid well.
Anything in corp manufacturing- find a company that makes things- go get an entry level job.
Really anything corporate - after 10 years you’ll be 6 figures- likely sooner
Where you live makes a different in salary.
I took my STEM degree, moved to the DC area. and went into project management doing government contracting. I work on projects that have a CBRN basis.
People in my role and with 10+ years experience typically make between 100-200K/year.
Go into medical sales you have to have about as much experience as you do for them to let you in the door. If you’re semi decent you’re easily gonna clear 100k thank me later. They want individuals who speak medical shop so to speak. Just be good at navigating gate keepers and tell them you love objections. Gift me when you get the job 😂😂
Accounting. Become an EA (enrolled agent) and do tax returns for a few years and you will get into that range. Or you can go fancy and pursue a CPA but either way you will get there, CPA just gives you more options so you are not stuck with doing taxes.
Leveraging your practical experience in the field, further studies in Hospital Administration could be a fair shout and would enable you to earn the fee you have in mind. Although it would require further studies and may exacerbate a debt situation.
Union trades like plumbing, electrical, or carpenter/construction worker. At least here in California. You get paid while going through your apprenticeship. It's a great career choice with complete benefits.
We pay our laborers $48 per hour to pick up trash... Just get into construction working on prevailing wage jobs (government funded work) and be good enough to not get fired.
It's competitive for positions so there will always be someone to replace you if your production rates are below par..
You have to travel but the money is great. The excavator operators on our last California project were getting over $110 per hour by law.
We had to ask them not to work so much, "Please bro, step out of the excavator, your killing my budgets"! They wanted as much overtime as they could get lol.
Mostly anything in logistics/warehousing.
Operations supervisors are typically paid between $50k-$80k depending on the company
A few years in that role and you can move into a higher management role or specialist role making anywhere between $80k-120k, requiring no higher education at most companies.
23m making $95k with no education past high school, worked in operations the last 5 years.
Must be industry specific. I am in the creator/influencer marketing space and we were overwhelmed with applicants once Meta/FB started letting go of all the duplicate positions. It did take a while to truly fill the roles as many people just couldn't live up to expectations though but it feels like we have an endless queue or people applying.
I do. But the industry is finance.
We’ve been actively hiring for devs with 3+ years experience for a year now and have only “permanently” filled like 6/10 positions.
2 were working multiple jobs and let go. 3 took the job and left within 6 months for a better paying position. 1 was let go for not living up to the role.
Pay is in the 150-190k range. Hybrid or remote depending on location. Still looking for architect in the 200k+ range.
Accountant, nurse, licensed clinical therapist, HR, anything in IT, engineer, management, geologist, school psychologist, environmental health specialist, work for the FAA
The possibilities are endless! :-)
Do you have a health science background and an undergraduate degree? Are you in the US?
I was just looking into Anaesthesiology assistant and it's amazing money in the US states that offer it.
Physician assistants are in high demand. Median pay is about $130k.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/fastest-growing.htm
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physician-assistants.htm
Trades. Electricians, elevator technicians ($100+k a year in my area), welders, etc.
You'd get to move around, solve problems, new places everyday / week depending who you work for.
Join a company or business as physical therapist assistant speaker / sales person (might need business / public speaking training), marketing, etc. Corporate and marketing can lead to really good income.
Healthcare system is very stuck in terms of wages for medical staff Assistant positions. Medical staff can't fight hard enough for better treatment or better pay. (nurse strikes?)
Corporate and marketing revenue is much higher and some firms truly care about keeping all their staff to grow with the company. That revenue often goes to team development, bonuses, paying for further training.
Just a few spitballs
Hello,
I am currently in medical device sales. You get to see your product help patients, have the opportunity to be in live procedures, travel, make phenomenal money - lots of opportunity in this world.
Being in PT might give you a leg up in some medical device divisions.
I think it would be 100% worth at least looking into.
If sales isn’t your thing, they also hire clinical specialists that deal with training physicians and providing procedural support.
I hope this helps 👍🏻
I always see truck driver recommended on here. Where I live, if some of these drivers got behind the wheel of an 18-wheeler, there'd be a state of emergency.
Janitor if you keep picking up enough trash, you can ultimately tire at 80k which would be nice for you and your family. In addition to that, you're always exercising so you can recycle all those bottles that the kids drink out of and then use as makeshift drug prepare familia devices. I think you've got a bright future ahead of you. If you stay in school and stay off drugs, you too can be the American dream
What a load of shit. New truckers start out WAY lower than that. Why don’t you tell him/her how hard it is get a union job as a trucker? Its damn near impossible. Ive been driving for years. Every trucking company is shit. Including the local ones. This is the absolute worst advice and you should be ashamed of yourself to try and rope someone into such a shit career!
If I’m being honest I’m quitting the industry in 41 days! Because of burn out. I’m a third generation driver. With 12 years of experience myself. I’ve been making $70-100k/year for 11 years now so NO it’s not a load of shit. And the local union jobs is all about WHO you know! Me I just never grasped the idea of paying some third party to tell a company that they treat their employees like shit and need to throw as much money at them to keep them from telling the world to NOT work for them! LTL is the way to go in this industry(as long as it’s not YRC😂😂). My first year I made $50k. Sorry that you have had a bad experience with this industry. But I’m ready to be home daily and there’s no good paying local jobs in my area without having to drive two hours one way to work! So I’m quitting and going back to school
Here are some healthcare and non-healthcare career options that can potentially lead to a salary of $80,000 or more within 4-5 years of experience:
**Healthcare Careers:**
* **Nurse Practitioner:** NPs diagnose illnesses, prescribe medications, and provide a wider range of care than PAs. An MSN (Master of Science in Nursing) degree is required, which can typically be completed in 2-3 years.
* **Physician Assistant (PA) Specialties:** PAs can specialize in various areas like surgery, cardiology, or orthopedics. Specialization often leads to higher earning potential.
* **Radiologic Technologist:** These technicians use X-ray machines and other imaging equipment to diagnose medical conditions. A bachelor's degree in Radiologic Technology can qualify you for this career.
* **Sonographer:** Sonographers use ultrasound technology to create images of internal organs. A bachelor's degree in Diagnostic Medical Sonography is required.
* **Respiratory Therapist:** These therapists help patients with breathing problems. An Associate's degree in Respiratory Therapy can qualify you for this career.
If you’re already looking for things that won’t take more than 4-5 years to complete , could you not just continue your education to become an actual physical therapist ? Also you can definitely make 80K as a PTA the fact that you’ve only been doing it for 2 years and you make 62K , you’re already close. It would make more sense just to aim towards working for more high profile companies that pay more and even tuition assistance to continue on to becoming a physical therapist.
There are only 2 programs in the country that offer a true transition from PTA to PT. Unfortunately even those programs are still as long as PT school. And just as expensive. Realistically a PTA to PT is basically a career change .
I still think career wise that’s a better option than completely going for something different , especially since OP is already making 62K within two years or having gotten certified. All she would need to do is go find a bachelors program most likely majoring in applied science and minoring in biology but she can speak to the a councilor to find out what credit transfer over. And that would be 5 years if she already has an associates. I would always encourage a person to just dive deeper with what they already have , especially if it’s already paying off then doing a complete flip. And like I said there are many hospitals that literally pay for your college. They’d essentially pay her to go back to school. And her salary would be increasing for sure.
Unfortunately like the person above said there is very few schools that offer a PTA to PT bridge program in the states, going back for PT without a bridge program will probably be my only option. I work at a hospital that offers loan repayment assistance so that would help with the large amount of debt that PT schools gets you into. But yes this is one of my options as of now, just looking into more things before I decide.
Well yes that’s what I was referring to . Just going back to school normally and finding a school that will accept most if not all of your credits from your PTA studies. If you’re already making 62K in two years as a PTA then just putting in the extra work in your field is definitely the better option and you can actually make 80K as a PTA as well , in my state top earners in your field make 83K while the average is between 62 and 73 K. And there is virtually no industry that you can step info without experience in the next 4-5 years that’s going to get you to 80K faster than what you’re already doing. Unless make something like law school.
the other issue with this is the debt does not justify the pay bump size
PTA to PT is not an upward progression it’s a complete career change. It’s like telling an RN to become a surgeon. The ROI to become a physical therapist is just not there. OP would need to got through a total of 5 to 7 years of schooling to become a doctor of physical therapy if they already don’t have a bachelors degree. Getting into a physical therapy school is a big IF in itself. They would need to spend upward of $80k-$200k in tuition alone only to make about the same as they are making right now as an entry level physical therapist. This definitely isn’t the advice OP needs and I’m sure has heavily considered already.
If she has her associates then she’s already a part of the way there and RN to surgeon is a terrible analogy, it would be more like a paralegal becoming an attorney. It’s not a complete career change because similar to paralegals PTA ‘s essentially do most of the work in a clinic while the PT signs off on things. Also if she is already willing to do something that will give her a turn around in 5 years then yes this makes sense. Not to mention as I believe I stated before , many hospitals have tuition reimbursement and will pay you to continue your education. Since she is already close to making her ideal salary , my point was is in the long wrong it would make more sense for her to continue in her industry then jump industries completely and potentially start at a lower pay because her background is not cohesive to what she will be doing next if she completely changes. Yes she could get a certificate in something but she would still be starting off entry level , having wasted a same or similar amount of time to get back up to 80k, when she’s already making 62K now. She can dig her heels into her current career and be making 70K in the next year or two , while exploring options to become a PT and possibly get it all payed for.
Not really. Both are associates degrees. And the truth is you don’t need a specific associates or bachelors degree in order to become an MD or a DPT a long as you complete specified requirements. A person with a geology bachelors degree can get into either program. For example, an associates in nursing is an entry level nursing degree with education progression being BSN and then masters or doctorate in nursing. Again PTA is not an entry level degree in becoming a DPT. They are both in the rehab profession but they are separate jobs. I doubt hospitals are reimbursing much to become a physical therapist. If they are it’s to lock you into a contract to work there for a decade. Hospitals don’t pay physical therapist much tbh. I think it’s comical to suggest OP spend nearly 200k on an education only to cap out making $33-$40 an hour in a hospital that promises to pay off your loans if you dedicate your life to them for a decade. Many companies in different healthcare fields pay for continuing education courses that is required to maintain licensure regardless of it’s the outpatient or inpatient setting. Regardless of what OP choose (even DPT) would mean restarting from scratch into a new career. Edit: typo, spelling
Stroll on over to r/physicaltherapy and see what we all have to say about this profession.
This person refuses to accept that PTA is not a preliminary for PT. It’s a different job. It’s pretty insulting when people ask if you want to be a PT. You can see the look on a PTAs face every time a patients asks if they are going back to school for PT. very belittling
What do you mean “working on the girl”? (Unless it’s a typo). Where do you live? What’s the average salary (where you live) for your current position and is there any room for growth? I’d suggest staying in the medical field since you have experience and usually medical jobs have good job security and a lot of positions make great money. Look up job postings in your area and get the salary ranges. For the ones paying $80+k per year, look up what is required to do those jobs. For example, you find a job posting for X (job title) that pays an annual salary of $85k/year. Look up what you’d need to do (college degree? Certification? Training? Experience? etc.) and if these requirements are realistically something you can do, add it to a list of “Career Possibilities”. If the requirements are too much (like for me, I wouldn’t want to go to medical school personally) then add it to a list of “No” and move on to the next listing and so on. Check out different job titles, too. Also Google medical careers and medical certifications or training. A lot of schools have financial aid and assistance if you need it, and they can tell you the average salary of each job they provide training for and should be able to answer any questions you might have.
Career Firefighter. Assuming you don't live in the SE United States, you won't start out making that but after a few years you will. Most departments are either 24/48 or 48/96 averages out to about 10 days a month working. After 20 years you get a pension, hell my department even has retiree insurance.
62k for 24 y/o is really good. As you gain more experience and move upwards, 100k isn't an issue. I am not sure what your advancement looks like but look at linked in and figure it out from there.
Respiratory therapists are suppose to make pretty good money! I don’t think there is a whole lot of school for it either. My old roommate was a surgery tech and she made great money.
It's a difficult course of study for RT. I tried it
Have you thought of PA
Am a PA, thought this as well
Sales
What kind of sales
2nd on sales, it's fun money!
What do you mean it’s fun money?
Depending on which industry you are in, it's a fun atmosphere. I'm in medical sales now, and I get to see my product affect patients on the spot, and it is fun and really rewarding. But I did windshield replacement sales in college and they was ROUGH. So it really depends which direction but it could be awesome!
Glad to hear you enjoy your job and make good money. That’s a beautiful thing!
I’ve been a talker all my life so sales was kind of a cheat code to make good money
What type of sales do you suggest
I started in telecom doing retail sales over 11 years ago. Over 80k even back then. Moved onto leadership then B2B. Great career, lots of money, benefits etc. was making more than most doctors pretty fast. Quotas aren’t for everyone, but if you study sales like any other profession and have the personality for it there is lots of money to be made, and tons of job security. Everyone needs a good salesperson (lots of bad ones out there), and carrying a bag funds the journey for all the no -quotad employees. If you are carrying a quota, and succeeding, you’re the last to get cut for sure
I’ve found that I’m better at selling tangible things. I’d say I’m below average at speaking in business terms so software sales I think is a poor choice for me. So I’d say knowing yourself is important. You certainly want to sell something you’re comfortable with and like to learn/talk about. Or at least have a mild interest in… I could expand more depending on what you like…
Can you give an example of a tangible product ? That could be fun to sell and make good money from?
Cars, trucks, planes, boats, equipment, tools, anything you can touch/grab
My little sister did a 10-month coding boot camp and got a job within a month that made 85k, and that was at 20 yrs old. She's 22 yrs old now, and her job has given her a 5k raise each year since, so she makes 95k. She works up north in Pennsylvania.
Is that a remote job?
Half & Half. They do 2 days in and 2 days out with Friday up in the air, depending on meetings and whatnot.
What boot camp was it
She said she boot camp is called "Code Differently." She texted me this: "Yea, a 5 month coding boot camp , they focused on the foundations of coding that you'd need for a career instead of all the ins and outs that you learn in college and most likely won't use . The coding boot camp introduced me to and prepared me fully for the company I ended up working for." So there you go ☺️ hopefully this helps.
Ooohhh, I have no idea. I'll ask her, and once I get the info, I'll respond to you again!
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As someone working in tech now, if it’s a coding bootcamp, it’s probably python, if not it should be. Keep in mind, they have HELLA projects and lessons for free on YouTube. Find an instructor that moves at your speed and commit to it. Find resume projects, get a GitHub created. You can have ChatGPT create you a study curriculum that’s very effective for free. Use your resources before you spend your resources if that makes any sense
Why should it be Python?
What’s her job title?
Her job title is Application Engineer.
Another question I have no idea about 😭 I'll ask then reply back.
Is it medical coding?
Definitely not haha. The medical field isn't really her thing.
She works at a financial investment company.
Look into blue collar work I’m in hvac and make 85k with insurance pension & 401k 3 day weekends etc
Theres a local community college near me that has a hvac program. Is it better to be one of those repair service guys that drives around to residential and commercial. Or someone that does work in a big company?
Go union.
Go talk to your local union, I’m union but I’m not one to push anything on anyone. Go talk to them they’ll tell you total package with benefits hourly on the check etc the. Make your decision
Depends on the person and what you want out of it. I personally could never do on call work, which is a thing at some repair/service companies, but you may find one where you’re only fixing shit 7-3 or whatever. Installing can be boring and soul sucking from what I’ve heard, but you make good money and it’s steady hours.
I had to disqualify hvac a few years ago when I was searching. I can't handle attics and crawl spaces lol. No way.
Go commercial
Yep. My husband used to be a Physical Therapist Assistant, and now he’s a Master Electrician. Depending on the amount of overtime he works, he’s made $109,000-$139,000 a year the past few years.
How’s his back?
Since he is a PTA he probably knows how to mitigate the health issues lol
The PTA background has definitely come in handy to mitigate any health issues. His job now involves a bit more waiting for orders to come in than it used to so he sits more, but he also recently got back into soccer and is trying to watch his health in general (he’s 46).
As a tradesman who makes six figures, my back is very much good🤌🏻
As someone who is near that range, my back feels a lot better now than it did at $50k/yr lol.
This.
I’m a firefighter in NJ. I make a little over 100k but my schedule allows me to work a part time job, between that and overtime I average around 150k and still have a lot of flexibility.
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Code enforcement official 10 out of 10 would not recommend
Electrician or plumber
Licensed Massage therapist here. 75k a year but I only work 31.5 hours a week.
Is this what you make entry level? I've usually heard lower for MT
My place starts at 25 per hour , then tips. So yeah thats starting
Anything with IT and programming will get you big bucks without having to do too much physical work
Over on the computer science sub everyone’s complaining about how frigid the job market is
Like all things it has peaks and troughs. Tech is just a bit less stable because it’s a slot of startups.
I work in cybersecurity, the job market is booming.
Only if you have plenty of experience. Entry level positions are scarce because of the high turnover due to people seeking a 6 figure income at the beginning of their career (I.e. 6-12 months of working and they leave).
Yes and no. Entry level positions are scarce because they keep raising the bar for entry level positions. It used to be that all you needed was a few good certs and a home lab to get started. Not you need a masters degree, 5 certs, a home lab, and an internship to be seriously considered for entry level positions. Cyber is advertised as an easy to get in career. Thats just not reality anymore, but the marketing for the industry has not changed. The high turnover is because of staffing shortages from the higher bar, leading to companies poaching workers from each other, overworking and burning their employees out, and the economy is wack right now.
Ill be honest, i worked pretty damn hard to get where I am within the past 3 years. I worked for an MSP while in college, then a network engineer, then an ISSO, then a SOC analyst. While putting in a lot of hours outside of work, but I made it happen.
That’s fair
Cyber has about 20% job growth at the moment, and if you look at the increase in cybercrime in the past 4 years, youd understand why. A lot of entry level gigs that, yes, do require some experience but there are so many ways to self teach besides college. Such as TryHackMe, HackTheBox, AceResponder, Blue Team Level 1. You can teach yourself PS scripting and Python scripting, and youd be able to ace any entry level Cyber job. The world is your oyster.
with that said, we have a brand new graduate from college (young kid, 22) and he makes $80k out of college.
im sorry youre downvoting me, but thats like me saying there arent jobs in finance when i clearly dont work in finance, if you dont work in cyber, how do you know the job market?
I’m not sure who was downvoting you but it wasn’t me.Additionally, I do work in cyber —in the private sector and I’m saying what I’ve seen. As well as what leaders complain about.
But if you have people leaving entry positions for higher paying jobs that means there are entry positions open. lol - Statistically speaking, worldwide, cybersecurity field is growing. With that said, its up to your management to work with HR and Accounting to help facilitate creating entry level positions that make sense.
People leaving entry level positions and applying for mid level positions doesn’t mean that entry level positions are open 😂 but I hear you.
if you get up from your chair, and move to another chair thats now your permanent chair, is your old chair now open for anyone?
Depends on my old chair’s budget 🙂. We may demolish the old chair. I’m not saying this to be argumentative. It literally happened at my job. We lost 2 jr. analysts and they opened up a lead and a sr position. I’ve also seen where they just don’t get a req after
Untrue.... i make six figures and finished my degree in 2022 (i started my cyber degree in 2021), i also work for the government. I also have about 6 certifications since starting in IT (2021). Im now a Sr. Threat Hunting Analyst with the government.
I appreciate that you took your very specific example in GovTech and applied it to the entire cybersecurity job market 🙂.
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Would you recommend doing Georgia Tech’s Online MS in Cybersecurity for someone with no direct experience (1.5 YOE as SRE at F500 bank)?
No
This.
One you enjoy. If you hate it, you’ll never get a salary that high.
Aircraft mechanics from a good school start at 80k
Aircraft Maintenance. 2 years after graduating from A&P school, I went to work at a 3M plant as a Maintenance Technician due to getting laid off for COVID. I made about $90k a year for the 2 years I was there. 2 years into working for a major airline, I’m making about $85k/yr with only 40hrs/wk. plenty more raises to come.
Im a radiology technologist I make around 100k-120k yearly in SoCal
🥲 I’m barely clearing 50k in Florida
Started looking into this the other day, how long did it take you to get there? Did you get a job right after getting certified?
I did but when I started out I was making 25/hr at a shitty outpatient clinic. I just worked my way up to different hospitals.
Pretty much any union skilled trade🤙🏻
Medical device sales
I’m a PTA also and in the same process of career modification. I’ve considered PA school before but the additional debt wasn’t ideal. Lately I’m looking more into the IT side of things, as it’s more of a natural interest to me, but I’m being cautious with assessing how much AI is being implemented overall. Personally, I want something where I can be mobile in the future, however my salary desires are similar with yours. If you’re willing to go back to school, look into any type of engineering program. If you want to stay in healthcare, maybe even CT or MRI tech could interest you also. A lot can be done online while you work too. Regardless what it is, be sure you’re going to enjoy it. PT isn’t a field I would honestly recommend to anyone anymore. Very unfortunate it’s come to that…. Good luck!
Xray degree and transfer to a Cathlab. You could get your license in Xray in 2 years and some community colleges even offer.
Nothing is guaranteed. Figure out what you like to do or constantly chase maybes. I could say X job does and by the time you get the proper training, certification or schooling it's changed. Working just for money is what will lead most people to u unfulfilled life became your only reason to have a job is to make X dollars. Learn to enjoy work as it will take up a large percent of your time.
almost every, cause it depends on YOE. if you are asking of fresher level than mostly software (tech) people, doctors, researchers, consultant at big companies and all
Just about anything.
Most STEM career paths will take you there
Nursing two years straight
Cybersecurity
Helicopter pilot medical
Almost any trade if you get with a good company. I’m in a medium cost of living area and made 78 the 5th year in my trade (smart home automation/integration/low voltage.) This year I’ll make in the 90s.
Pretty much any union trade you mean lol
I’m not in any type of union. My boss is about as anti-union as it gets lol
Of course a boss would be, but the fact of the matter is, any trade union will get you to that $100k+ mark 🤙🏻
Oh I agree. If there were union jobs available in my area for my trade I would join, I’m not anti-union in the slightest. I’ve jumped from low 40s to probably mid-90s this year (6th year in) because I’ve learned very fast and I invested in myself by asking plenty of questions. I can troubleshoot/configure/program almost anything in my induesty nowadays and if I can’t I can learn how to quickly. You don’t experience that type of wage growth just pulling cable and installing field-end equipment.
My PTAs got paid that much 15 years ago. It likely depends on your geographic area. The south is notorious for not paying well
Orthotics and Prosthetics. If you already have an undergrad degree, the masters OP is 2 years and then 2 years of residency which is a paid position at a clinic somewhere. It’s all patient care and your PT background would be really helpful. I say that half of my job is arts and crafts and the other part is science (anatomy, physics and biomechanics) I am 11 years in and making 105k
I'm a 7 year diesel mechanic. Broke $95k 2 years ago.
Very little in the helping professions, you may need to go in a completely new direction.
Aviation
Certified anesthesiologist assistant if you already have a BA or BS in some sort of science.
Im interested in this, recently started catching my interest. I have an associates in health sciences plus my PTA associates I guess. Assuming I go back for a bachelors for about 2 years I’m guessing, how long is the actual program to become AA? I know there are different ways to get to this like going through the Registered Nurse route.
I don’t know really. I know there is the masters route if you have a bachelors degree. The MS is two years. I just recently looked into it because I had never heard of it and was curious.
Def look into an apprenticeship. That’s very broad but carpentry, electrician, plumber are big but welding, hvac etc are less talked about but still paid well.
I made 80K last year as a truck driver. 40 hours a week or so as a local/ regional class A. Easy work.
Anything in corp manufacturing- find a company that makes things- go get an entry level job. Really anything corporate - after 10 years you’ll be 6 figures- likely sooner
Where you live makes a different in salary. I took my STEM degree, moved to the DC area. and went into project management doing government contracting. I work on projects that have a CBRN basis. People in my role and with 10+ years experience typically make between 100-200K/year.
Have u thought of air traffic controller?
Registered Nurse, 6 figures easy few years, in California.
Sales.
Nursing
Truck driver.
Car salesmen make a lot.
Go into medical sales you have to have about as much experience as you do for them to let you in the door. If you’re semi decent you’re easily gonna clear 100k thank me later. They want individuals who speak medical shop so to speak. Just be good at navigating gate keepers and tell them you love objections. Gift me when you get the job 😂😂
Accounting. Become an EA (enrolled agent) and do tax returns for a few years and you will get into that range. Or you can go fancy and pursue a CPA but either way you will get there, CPA just gives you more options so you are not stuck with doing taxes.
Nurse Practitioners and Physicians Assistant are both highly paid relative to the amount of education (and debt) they require.
Automotive sales brother
Air Traffic Controller
Leveraging your practical experience in the field, further studies in Hospital Administration could be a fair shout and would enable you to earn the fee you have in mind. Although it would require further studies and may exacerbate a debt situation.
Union trades like plumbing, electrical, or carpenter/construction worker. At least here in California. You get paid while going through your apprenticeship. It's a great career choice with complete benefits.
We pay our laborers $48 per hour to pick up trash... Just get into construction working on prevailing wage jobs (government funded work) and be good enough to not get fired. It's competitive for positions so there will always be someone to replace you if your production rates are below par.. You have to travel but the money is great. The excavator operators on our last California project were getting over $110 per hour by law. We had to ask them not to work so much, "Please bro, step out of the excavator, your killing my budgets"! They wanted as much overtime as they could get lol.
Since you're already in the health field, I would suggest clinical research. You can easily be making 6 figures after a couple years of experience.
Mostly anything in logistics/warehousing. Operations supervisors are typically paid between $50k-$80k depending on the company A few years in that role and you can move into a higher management role or specialist role making anywhere between $80k-120k, requiring no higher education at most companies. 23m making $95k with no education past high school, worked in operations the last 5 years.
The one that's willing to pay you that much or more.
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No they’re just not hiring any random kid off the street anymore. My company can’t find enough devs and we pay above our competitors.
Must be industry specific. I am in the creator/influencer marketing space and we were overwhelmed with applicants once Meta/FB started letting go of all the duplicate positions. It did take a while to truly fill the roles as many people just couldn't live up to expectations though but it feels like we have an endless queue or people applying.
What company do you work for, if you don’t mind me asking?
I do. But the industry is finance. We’ve been actively hiring for devs with 3+ years experience for a year now and have only “permanently” filled like 6/10 positions. 2 were working multiple jobs and let go. 3 took the job and left within 6 months for a better paying position. 1 was let go for not living up to the role. Pay is in the 150-190k range. Hybrid or remote depending on location. Still looking for architect in the 200k+ range.
Plumbing, hvac, electrician can all make that and more.
How many massages is that per week?
I don’t follow?
Do you people have any valid points or are you just gonna talk out your ass about the skilled trades?
Accountant, nurse, licensed clinical therapist, HR, anything in IT, engineer, management, geologist, school psychologist, environmental health specialist, work for the FAA The possibilities are endless! :-)
Do you have a health science background and an undergraduate degree? Are you in the US? I was just looking into Anaesthesiology assistant and it's amazing money in the US states that offer it.
I have a health sciences associates and my PTA associates. I’m in The US (Florida). I will start looking into this career. Thanks!
Nurse in california
Physician assistants are in high demand. Median pay is about $130k. https://www.bls.gov/ooh/fastest-growing.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physician-assistants.htm
I make over 100k as a union carpenter, takes 4-5 years to complete
Trades. Electricians, elevator technicians ($100+k a year in my area), welders, etc. You'd get to move around, solve problems, new places everyday / week depending who you work for. Join a company or business as physical therapist assistant speaker / sales person (might need business / public speaking training), marketing, etc. Corporate and marketing can lead to really good income. Healthcare system is very stuck in terms of wages for medical staff Assistant positions. Medical staff can't fight hard enough for better treatment or better pay. (nurse strikes?) Corporate and marketing revenue is much higher and some firms truly care about keeping all their staff to grow with the company. That revenue often goes to team development, bonuses, paying for further training. Just a few spitballs
Hello, I am currently in medical device sales. You get to see your product help patients, have the opportunity to be in live procedures, travel, make phenomenal money - lots of opportunity in this world. Being in PT might give you a leg up in some medical device divisions. I think it would be 100% worth at least looking into. If sales isn’t your thing, they also hire clinical specialists that deal with training physicians and providing procedural support. I hope this helps 👍🏻
I mean to be fair almost any career can give you 80k if you keep on learning and don’t become lazy
Government work. Like dot or running machinery could net you 6 figs
Disability management or health and safety. I would go the DM route with your current experience
construction project management
Whatever you do… do NOT get your CDL and be a trucker. Worst career ever.
My dad is a truck driver, his first advise to me career wise was to never become a truck driver or at least try to avoid it.
I always see truck driver recommended on here. Where I live, if some of these drivers got behind the wheel of an 18-wheeler, there'd be a state of emergency.
Offshore oil rig
CN or CP always looking for workers, make over $100,000 paid training
Engineer
Janitor if you keep picking up enough trash, you can ultimately tire at 80k which would be nice for you and your family. In addition to that, you're always exercising so you can recycle all those bottles that the kids drink out of and then use as makeshift drug prepare familia devices. I think you've got a bright future ahead of you. If you stay in school and stay off drugs, you too can be the American dream
It’s not health care, but truck drivers make $70-120,000/year. And yes that’s even local drivers if you go union.
What a load of shit. New truckers start out WAY lower than that. Why don’t you tell him/her how hard it is get a union job as a trucker? Its damn near impossible. Ive been driving for years. Every trucking company is shit. Including the local ones. This is the absolute worst advice and you should be ashamed of yourself to try and rope someone into such a shit career!
If I’m being honest I’m quitting the industry in 41 days! Because of burn out. I’m a third generation driver. With 12 years of experience myself. I’ve been making $70-100k/year for 11 years now so NO it’s not a load of shit. And the local union jobs is all about WHO you know! Me I just never grasped the idea of paying some third party to tell a company that they treat their employees like shit and need to throw as much money at them to keep them from telling the world to NOT work for them! LTL is the way to go in this industry(as long as it’s not YRC😂😂). My first year I made $50k. Sorry that you have had a bad experience with this industry. But I’m ready to be home daily and there’s no good paying local jobs in my area without having to drive two hours one way to work! So I’m quitting and going back to school
After a few years of being a PTA couldn’t you go to PA school?
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Horrible advice. Shame on you.
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Military pays like shit!
Who wants to do that bs
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I see why u joined the military
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Why r u on ur phone rn and not defending our fucking country
Because I’m not at work
Maybe I should join to pick up the slack
I mean go ahead.
Blue collar union work
Here are some healthcare and non-healthcare career options that can potentially lead to a salary of $80,000 or more within 4-5 years of experience: **Healthcare Careers:** * **Nurse Practitioner:** NPs diagnose illnesses, prescribe medications, and provide a wider range of care than PAs. An MSN (Master of Science in Nursing) degree is required, which can typically be completed in 2-3 years. * **Physician Assistant (PA) Specialties:** PAs can specialize in various areas like surgery, cardiology, or orthopedics. Specialization often leads to higher earning potential. * **Radiologic Technologist:** These technicians use X-ray machines and other imaging equipment to diagnose medical conditions. A bachelor's degree in Radiologic Technology can qualify you for this career. * **Sonographer:** Sonographers use ultrasound technology to create images of internal organs. A bachelor's degree in Diagnostic Medical Sonography is required. * **Respiratory Therapist:** These therapists help patients with breathing problems. An Associate's degree in Respiratory Therapy can qualify you for this career.
Why not include RNs there? Haha
Also, semi-truck drivers easily make 100K so get your license and start driving
Stay in healthcare but go admin
Why
I think there’s money to be had there