The Charmed ones are the power of 3, Paige couldn't have Charmed powers until Prue essentially passed them on. She had her whitelighter powers but didn't know about them to use them, and she did technically escape the car accident with her parents cause of her whitelighter powers. Her telekinesis wouldn't come in til she joined the Charmed Ones.
This is my theory anyways.
I mean sure but Paige was a witch in her own right and should have her own powers especially she should've had access to her whitelighter powers by then
Yeah, I get where you are coming from, I'm jus thinking that until the witch/Charmed powers were lost from Prue, Paiges powers wouldn't awaken. But who knows, the writings all over the place at times.
following with her whitelighter side, she shouldve been orbing as a kid, too. and the elders shouldve sensed her orbing out of the accident. with how the elders are in the show, its odd they werent somehow alerted of a random teenager performing whitelighter magic
That is very true! They should have sensed her. As I said previously, the writing was all over the place sometimes, we as fans notice things like this and question it. It's all just our own speculation at this point
I just replied to another comment saying this but I agree. Cole made her orb just by lightly scaring her. Are we meant to believe no one has ever snuck up on her or startled her before? Or that she's never really wanted to just go somewhere and imagined being there?
Remember how the girls were technically witches their whole lives until the start of season 1 but it's Phoebe activating their powers with the incantation that allows them to receive them? I think it's similar to Paige. She wasn't a Charmed One and didn't have her witch powers until the moment she met Piper and Phoebe at the manor after Prue's funeral. When the Power of Three was reactivated by Paige's presence.
One thing I'm curious about though, are we meant to believe Paige was never scared before to trigger her orb? Cole demonstrated that it was a fear response and she supposedly always had it before becoming a Charmed One. Cole made her orb just by startling her. No one has ever snuck up on Paige before then or startled her while she wasn't paying attention? She never looked at a place and wished badly enough she could just go there?
Remember the Charmed ones were a trio according to the prophecy. Not just any ordinary witches. Their powers were- for better or worse- intertwined. And dependent on each other- perhaps even conditioned as such. Paige had whitelighter powers but she didn’t receive her witch powers until they were together since they were part of the prophecy. Since Prue was no longer alive, she got the telekinesis part of the power trio. Had she never met her sisters, she would’ve had her whitelighter powers and likely her non-active witch powers (spell casting, potion-making, etc) but would have probably never received the active ones since again, it was part of a prophecy and they needed to be together to receive them. Same thing happened for the other three
Rather Prue lived or died wouldn't make a difference to rather Paige got powers or not. All witches have active powers. Paige wouldn't be charmed but she would have all of her powers just as Phoebe and Piper had their powers when the power of 3 didn't exist. Those powers aren't and never have been restricted to being Charmed. Any warren witch can develop the power to move things with their mind, Premonition or Immobilization as we have seen.
Being Charmed isn't what gives the girls their power but rather their powers are indicators of them being charmed. The Power of three isn't an external force like the Hollow or Nexus but rather the collective power of the sisters. Being a charmed one didn't give Paige any power it just indicated that she was a charmed one. It is like a birth mark that indicates a birthright.
I think it’s pretty clear that their powers are connected to their collective power of the charmed trio. Every time they got into a fight and they broke their connection, they lost their active powers as well. The only time we’ve seen one of them using their powers without the charmed trio being active I’d say it was Phoebe’s first prominition about Paige at the funeral. Maybe when they were children as well but it isn’t stated when they got them. Otherwise lore wise it seems that their active powers are part of the charmed prophecy
In A Paige From The Past, Paige realises she could always orb. The fact she says that, not "I could always do magic", implies her witch powers ONLY were unavailable for whatever reason.
Why this is was never fully confirmed, but we can piece together the most likely explanation based on what we do know.
We know, for example, that her witch powers came in after Prue's death. Not only that, but Piper says the third sister has the power to move things with her mind. This implies Paige doesn't just have a similar power to Prue, she actually inherited Prue's witch power. It also implies that, by extension, she could have instead inherited the powers of Phoebe or Piper if they had died instead but that's by the by.
This is consistent with the whole Charmed prophecy imo, as the powers of each sister are connected. It's possible that the binding spell also affected Paige, despite the distance, but that explanation begs the question of why Paige could still orb.
My point, I don't think they knew about her also being a white lighter as those don't occur until toddler time (at least that's when Wyatt showed it) and she was placed for adoption before her toddler years as a baby. And she did orb as a teenager. Seemed like all female (which is all they had) witches were born with powers of some sort or another in the Warren line. But then again...
That doesn't really make sense, though, because all other Warren witches had powers without being "The Power of 3." Patty could freeze stuff, and Penny had telekinesis. Paige should have had her powers.
Exactly. The Charmed ones were a package deal and so were their powers. Thats why Grams was trying to get them back together before she died. It wouldn’t have worked had they not gotten back together
The Charmed Ones just seemed more capable of killing upper level demons, and their powers grew stronger than previous generations. It doesn't make sense that Paige wouldn't have her witch powers, though. The girls had theres when they were little, and hers were never stripped. She should have had an active power. It's poor writing imo. Look at all of the girl's kids, too. They all have active powers as well.
> It's poor writing imo
Is it, tho? Cause it seems to me that there are actually good explanations for this.
I mean, the Charmed Ones aren't normal witches. Their powers are tied to the Power of Three. As I said earlier, it's heavily implied that Paige doesn't have her own witch powers because of the Charmed prophecy.
Furthermore, Grams died, and the original 3 still didn't have their powers.
>Their powers are tied to the Power of Three.
But they're not though. Prue and piper both had their powers before Phoebe was born. And piper had her powers after Prue had died, and Po3 was broken. While the powers are definitely connected to the Po3, to say they are directly tied isn't quite right in my opinion
> But they're not though. Prue and piper both had their powers before Phoebe was born
Ok, but does that matter?
Charmed has a very strong concept of destiny, so I think it doesn't matter that Phoebe or Piper weren't born yet. The fact that they were going to be, and that they & Prue were going to be part of the Charmed prophecy was enough for Prue to receive her powers.
By this same logic, it's ok for Piper & Phoebe to keep their powers that aren't the actual "Power of Three thing", in Phoebe's words, after Prue dies.
The only thing that seems to matter in whether or not the sisters can use their powers is:
* their relationship as sisters
* no more than three at a time
It’s highly possible that Grams bound Paige’s powers when she was born before being surrendered to the church. She may have bound her witch powers and may have neglected to bind whitelighter powers.
I think Paige started being able to do small bits of magic when Prue was killed. Although, it’s also feasible that her witch powers may have started awakening here and there after Grams died.
Based on what I can remember from the show, the short answer is that Paige's powers wouldn't awaken until she was in the house with her sisters.
Part of this stems from the very first spell that Phoebe casts in the first episode; the spell to receive their powers.
Yes, Grams bound their powers after Phoebe was born, but they didn't get them back immediately after she died; they had to \*accept\* those powers, which was done by casting that spell. My guess is that it was likely a right of passage that the girls would have had to recite that spell at some point in their lives; to choose the path to protect the innocent or not.
My guess is that Paige's powers were dormant in a similar way, separate from her older sisters. Yes, her powers weren't bound, which was why she was able to still orb, but until she was in the house, with her sisters, the initial spell Phoebe casts would not have affected her. So it wasn't until right before the sister get ambushed by Shax that she gets her active power of TKO. It's also why she didn't get her TKO when she went to Prue's funeral even tho she was with her sisters.
At least, this is what I can make sense of things based on what happens in the show. The real answer is "because reasons." xD
Burge wasn't a part of the show after season 3, and I'm not sure she was involved much with advising the story or lore for season 4+.
None of the Charmed ones had their full powers at start. Young piper was not blowing things up, young Phoebe was not levitating, and young Prue wasn’t astral projecting.
Each of them had their starter power, and then as they learn and advance them they got more. Paige could orb as we seen her orb during her high school years to get out of the car crash, but she didn’t even know she could do it and had no one to train her or practice her power. So of course she wasnt as experienced as the others from the start, but when Piper and Phoebe and Leo helped guide her her powers grew and she master her powers more.
In my head I always pictured it as they bound her witch powers not knowing that the white lighter side would affect her powers. In charmed again Penny said it was unheard of of white lighters and witches being together let alone having children with them. This was uncharted territory for them so say that they cast a spell to bind a witches power it wouldn’t have effected her white lighter power.
I also think that until she met both of her sisters and reconstituted the power of three, her white lighter ability to orb would only kick in during a life or death situation such as the car wreck or when Shax attacked her and Shane on the roof.
My head canon has always been that there are innate witch powers and then there are charmed/bloodline powers. So standard innate witch powers are things like spells, potions, scrying, etc, and then there are bloodline powers that are additional abilities granted to your bloodline. For the Warren bloodline it is the Charmed powers. So Paige may have had her innate witch powers and just not her Charmed powers until Prue passed and she reunited with her sisters at the mansion. She wouldn't have known about her innate powers without some guidance as Phoebe shows us in Animal Pragmatism that there is a certain format to spells to make them function. Even if she picked up a spell book chances are it would have been like the one Phoebe's friends bought where the formatting was off. That being said, Paige might have had some extra spooky sleepovers growing up if someone pulled out a ouija board or tarot deck.
Paige was born a witch but without active powers because her Wiccan genes were latent and the whitelighter side stronger, and she’s always meant to be a pacifist whitelighter, likely later in life (even if no sister died early).
Paige wasn’t bound by the Charmed destiny being the fourth sister. That birth right was reserved for the first three sisters (who were prophesied) and they received their powers, even Phoebe demonstrated it from the womb.
Paige inherited the Charmed destiny from Prue, along with Prue’s power (the third sister’s power to move things with her mind) once Prue’s death became permanent, meaning when Prue crossed over the “great divide” and moved on. All three sisters have died many times in S1-S3 but the deaths weren’t permanent, and there was no call for lost witch, that’s why Paige didn’t appear in their lives in the first three seasons. That’s why it wasn’t like a Kendra situation when Buffy drowned and died for 3 minutes, and when Kendra died, Faith was called.
Paige is basically an anomaly in the Charmed line. Even the most powerful elder, Gideon, or even the Source, couldn’t have known about her existence. The Triad didn’t know about her and that she’d be a Charmed One, they kidnapped another witch (Christy) to groom. Melinda Warren didn’t even foresee Paige’s existence.
Perhaps the only ones who knew about Paige, aside from Penny, Patty and Sam, were the Angels of Destiny, who were above the Elders, the Source, the Triad, the Tribunal and the Avatars.
In my mind, her original power was telekinesis, and here's why.
Both leo (a full whiteligter) and the creepy guy who tried to marry her (half whitelighter) both had telekinesis.
Im guessing telekinesis is also a whitelighter power.
But hers was expanded or made more powerful when she became a charmed one and changed from telekinesis to telekinetic orbing
All of their powers were bond. When phoebe said the spell to gain their powers it only called for we sisters 3. The ones that were together by the book. My guess is grams put that spell in there. And excluded Paige to save their birthright.
The Charmed ones are the power of 3, Paige couldn't have Charmed powers until Prue essentially passed them on. She had her whitelighter powers but didn't know about them to use them, and she did technically escape the car accident with her parents cause of her whitelighter powers. Her telekinesis wouldn't come in til she joined the Charmed Ones. This is my theory anyways.
I mean sure but Paige was a witch in her own right and should have her own powers especially she should've had access to her whitelighter powers by then
Yeah, I get where you are coming from, I'm jus thinking that until the witch/Charmed powers were lost from Prue, Paiges powers wouldn't awaken. But who knows, the writings all over the place at times.
following with her whitelighter side, she shouldve been orbing as a kid, too. and the elders shouldve sensed her orbing out of the accident. with how the elders are in the show, its odd they werent somehow alerted of a random teenager performing whitelighter magic
That is very true! They should have sensed her. As I said previously, the writing was all over the place sometimes, we as fans notice things like this and question it. It's all just our own speculation at this point
It’s possible she might’ve been magically hidden from them in some way
This right here. Patty and Grams would’ve surely cloaked her in some type of magic so there wouldn’t be Elders or demons coming after her
I just replied to another comment saying this but I agree. Cole made her orb just by lightly scaring her. Are we meant to believe no one has ever snuck up on her or startled her before? Or that she's never really wanted to just go somewhere and imagined being there?
Remember how the girls were technically witches their whole lives until the start of season 1 but it's Phoebe activating their powers with the incantation that allows them to receive them? I think it's similar to Paige. She wasn't a Charmed One and didn't have her witch powers until the moment she met Piper and Phoebe at the manor after Prue's funeral. When the Power of Three was reactivated by Paige's presence. One thing I'm curious about though, are we meant to believe Paige was never scared before to trigger her orb? Cole demonstrated that it was a fear response and she supposedly always had it before becoming a Charmed One. Cole made her orb just by startling her. No one has ever snuck up on Paige before then or startled her while she wasn't paying attention? She never looked at a place and wished badly enough she could just go there?
Remember the Charmed ones were a trio according to the prophecy. Not just any ordinary witches. Their powers were- for better or worse- intertwined. And dependent on each other- perhaps even conditioned as such. Paige had whitelighter powers but she didn’t receive her witch powers until they were together since they were part of the prophecy. Since Prue was no longer alive, she got the telekinesis part of the power trio. Had she never met her sisters, she would’ve had her whitelighter powers and likely her non-active witch powers (spell casting, potion-making, etc) but would have probably never received the active ones since again, it was part of a prophecy and they needed to be together to receive them. Same thing happened for the other three
Rather Prue lived or died wouldn't make a difference to rather Paige got powers or not. All witches have active powers. Paige wouldn't be charmed but she would have all of her powers just as Phoebe and Piper had their powers when the power of 3 didn't exist. Those powers aren't and never have been restricted to being Charmed. Any warren witch can develop the power to move things with their mind, Premonition or Immobilization as we have seen. Being Charmed isn't what gives the girls their power but rather their powers are indicators of them being charmed. The Power of three isn't an external force like the Hollow or Nexus but rather the collective power of the sisters. Being a charmed one didn't give Paige any power it just indicated that she was a charmed one. It is like a birth mark that indicates a birthright.
I think it’s pretty clear that their powers are connected to their collective power of the charmed trio. Every time they got into a fight and they broke their connection, they lost their active powers as well. The only time we’ve seen one of them using their powers without the charmed trio being active I’d say it was Phoebe’s first prominition about Paige at the funeral. Maybe when they were children as well but it isn’t stated when they got them. Otherwise lore wise it seems that their active powers are part of the charmed prophecy
In A Paige From The Past, Paige realises she could always orb. The fact she says that, not "I could always do magic", implies her witch powers ONLY were unavailable for whatever reason. Why this is was never fully confirmed, but we can piece together the most likely explanation based on what we do know. We know, for example, that her witch powers came in after Prue's death. Not only that, but Piper says the third sister has the power to move things with her mind. This implies Paige doesn't just have a similar power to Prue, she actually inherited Prue's witch power. It also implies that, by extension, she could have instead inherited the powers of Phoebe or Piper if they had died instead but that's by the by. This is consistent with the whole Charmed prophecy imo, as the powers of each sister are connected. It's possible that the binding spell also affected Paige, despite the distance, but that explanation begs the question of why Paige could still orb.
Perhaps after Paige was born and put up for adoption, Patty and Grams bound her witch powers and didn't know she was also a white lighter?
That's the problem for me, tho. They would have to have bound her witch powers specifically to spare her white lighter powers. So they'd have to know.
My point, I don't think they knew about her also being a white lighter as those don't occur until toddler time (at least that's when Wyatt showed it) and she was placed for adoption before her toddler years as a baby. And she did orb as a teenager. Seemed like all female (which is all they had) witches were born with powers of some sort or another in the Warren line. But then again...
That doesn't really make sense, though, because all other Warren witches had powers without being "The Power of 3." Patty could freeze stuff, and Penny had telekinesis. Paige should have had her powers.
Right, but the other Warren witches were not the Charmed Ones
Exactly. The Charmed ones were a package deal and so were their powers. Thats why Grams was trying to get them back together before she died. It wouldn’t have worked had they not gotten back together
The Charmed Ones just seemed more capable of killing upper level demons, and their powers grew stronger than previous generations. It doesn't make sense that Paige wouldn't have her witch powers, though. The girls had theres when they were little, and hers were never stripped. She should have had an active power. It's poor writing imo. Look at all of the girl's kids, too. They all have active powers as well.
> It's poor writing imo Is it, tho? Cause it seems to me that there are actually good explanations for this. I mean, the Charmed Ones aren't normal witches. Their powers are tied to the Power of Three. As I said earlier, it's heavily implied that Paige doesn't have her own witch powers because of the Charmed prophecy. Furthermore, Grams died, and the original 3 still didn't have their powers.
>Their powers are tied to the Power of Three. But they're not though. Prue and piper both had their powers before Phoebe was born. And piper had her powers after Prue had died, and Po3 was broken. While the powers are definitely connected to the Po3, to say they are directly tied isn't quite right in my opinion
> But they're not though. Prue and piper both had their powers before Phoebe was born Ok, but does that matter? Charmed has a very strong concept of destiny, so I think it doesn't matter that Phoebe or Piper weren't born yet. The fact that they were going to be, and that they & Prue were going to be part of the Charmed prophecy was enough for Prue to receive her powers. By this same logic, it's ok for Piper & Phoebe to keep their powers that aren't the actual "Power of Three thing", in Phoebe's words, after Prue dies. The only thing that seems to matter in whether or not the sisters can use their powers is: * their relationship as sisters * no more than three at a time
It’s highly possible that Grams bound Paige’s powers when she was born before being surrendered to the church. She may have bound her witch powers and may have neglected to bind whitelighter powers. I think Paige started being able to do small bits of magic when Prue was killed. Although, it’s also feasible that her witch powers may have started awakening here and there after Grams died.
Based on what I can remember from the show, the short answer is that Paige's powers wouldn't awaken until she was in the house with her sisters. Part of this stems from the very first spell that Phoebe casts in the first episode; the spell to receive their powers. Yes, Grams bound their powers after Phoebe was born, but they didn't get them back immediately after she died; they had to \*accept\* those powers, which was done by casting that spell. My guess is that it was likely a right of passage that the girls would have had to recite that spell at some point in their lives; to choose the path to protect the innocent or not. My guess is that Paige's powers were dormant in a similar way, separate from her older sisters. Yes, her powers weren't bound, which was why she was able to still orb, but until she was in the house, with her sisters, the initial spell Phoebe casts would not have affected her. So it wasn't until right before the sister get ambushed by Shax that she gets her active power of TKO. It's also why she didn't get her TKO when she went to Prue's funeral even tho she was with her sisters. At least, this is what I can make sense of things based on what happens in the show. The real answer is "because reasons." xD Burge wasn't a part of the show after season 3, and I'm not sure she was involved much with advising the story or lore for season 4+.
Constance Burge was likely consulted about the creation and characterisation of Paige. She remained an executive consultant until end of Season 4.
None of the Charmed ones had their full powers at start. Young piper was not blowing things up, young Phoebe was not levitating, and young Prue wasn’t astral projecting. Each of them had their starter power, and then as they learn and advance them they got more. Paige could orb as we seen her orb during her high school years to get out of the car crash, but she didn’t even know she could do it and had no one to train her or practice her power. So of course she wasnt as experienced as the others from the start, but when Piper and Phoebe and Leo helped guide her her powers grew and she master her powers more.
In my head I always pictured it as they bound her witch powers not knowing that the white lighter side would affect her powers. In charmed again Penny said it was unheard of of white lighters and witches being together let alone having children with them. This was uncharted territory for them so say that they cast a spell to bind a witches power it wouldn’t have effected her white lighter power. I also think that until she met both of her sisters and reconstituted the power of three, her white lighter ability to orb would only kick in during a life or death situation such as the car wreck or when Shax attacked her and Shane on the roof.
My head canon has always been that there are innate witch powers and then there are charmed/bloodline powers. So standard innate witch powers are things like spells, potions, scrying, etc, and then there are bloodline powers that are additional abilities granted to your bloodline. For the Warren bloodline it is the Charmed powers. So Paige may have had her innate witch powers and just not her Charmed powers until Prue passed and she reunited with her sisters at the mansion. She wouldn't have known about her innate powers without some guidance as Phoebe shows us in Animal Pragmatism that there is a certain format to spells to make them function. Even if she picked up a spell book chances are it would have been like the one Phoebe's friends bought where the formatting was off. That being said, Paige might have had some extra spooky sleepovers growing up if someone pulled out a ouija board or tarot deck.
Paige was born a witch but without active powers because her Wiccan genes were latent and the whitelighter side stronger, and she’s always meant to be a pacifist whitelighter, likely later in life (even if no sister died early). Paige wasn’t bound by the Charmed destiny being the fourth sister. That birth right was reserved for the first three sisters (who were prophesied) and they received their powers, even Phoebe demonstrated it from the womb. Paige inherited the Charmed destiny from Prue, along with Prue’s power (the third sister’s power to move things with her mind) once Prue’s death became permanent, meaning when Prue crossed over the “great divide” and moved on. All three sisters have died many times in S1-S3 but the deaths weren’t permanent, and there was no call for lost witch, that’s why Paige didn’t appear in their lives in the first three seasons. That’s why it wasn’t like a Kendra situation when Buffy drowned and died for 3 minutes, and when Kendra died, Faith was called. Paige is basically an anomaly in the Charmed line. Even the most powerful elder, Gideon, or even the Source, couldn’t have known about her existence. The Triad didn’t know about her and that she’d be a Charmed One, they kidnapped another witch (Christy) to groom. Melinda Warren didn’t even foresee Paige’s existence. Perhaps the only ones who knew about Paige, aside from Penny, Patty and Sam, were the Angels of Destiny, who were above the Elders, the Source, the Triad, the Tribunal and the Avatars.
In my mind, her original power was telekinesis, and here's why. Both leo (a full whiteligter) and the creepy guy who tried to marry her (half whitelighter) both had telekinesis. Im guessing telekinesis is also a whitelighter power. But hers was expanded or made more powerful when she became a charmed one and changed from telekinesis to telekinetic orbing
All of their powers were bond. When phoebe said the spell to gain their powers it only called for we sisters 3. The ones that were together by the book. My guess is grams put that spell in there. And excluded Paige to save their birthright.