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AnxietySignificant76

Lmaoo is he actually blaming the guy who found out?


hsiale

Yes, plus he says that the guy is "posing as a chess player". [Guy is an IM.](https://ratings.fide.com/profile/24175480)


augustusgrizzly

LMAO


Automatic-Change7932

Denis Khismatullin’ is a supporter of Russian's genocidal war against Ukraine. Staying away from this Person and his account ist like something any reasonable man would do


norpadon

Kramnik himself is very pro-Putin iirc. I remember he posted insane conspiracy theories on Twitter a while ago


HaruMistborn

Wow he's bat shit insane.


Frogbone

yeah, he's genuinely unwell. i'm not having a good time with this anymore


Boubitomtl

Narcissistic personality disorder.


Ecstatic_Explorer_25

People can be bad without being sick.


schludy

I came across this guy posing as a Minecraft player, but then I checked his Steam profile and he has less than 10,000h in game, smh


ThatChapThere

Fake Minecraft fan spotted, it's not on steam.


MixesQJ

Probably thinks he earned his IM title playing some "interesting" games.


ScottyKnows1

That's what the I stands for. Interesting Master.


BraceTD

That’s also the guy who absolutely utterly annihilated Levy not that far ago


bpm03

This from Kramnik who actually pretended to be a chess player. (See [*accusation in a mirror*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror).)


TooMuchBroccoli

Not just blaming.. He is literally asking others to harass him too, by pointing at him. What a colossal manchild, holy shit


SidneyKidney

Yes, this is a genuine concern and is probably enough to get him also removed from platforms where he streamed. Calling on your follower to pile on someone is commonly against TOS of Twitch / YT


Electrical-Song19

should be banned from twitch and all major streaming sites too then.


checkersthenchess

> He is literally asking others to harass him too, by pointing at him. What a colossal manchild, holy shit Yep. We can all read between the lines. Kramnik is asking his supporters to harrass galchenko for getting him ousted from titled tuesday. Unless the translation is wrong, chesscom needs to ban kramnik outright. This is way more serious than kramnik cheating on titled tuesday. Kramnik's behavior is even more egregious when you consider that kramnik has been accusing hikaru and others of asking their supporters to harrass him. When in actuality, hikaru and others did the very opposite and asked their supporters not to harrass kramnik. This is another example of kramnik accusing others of doing exactly what he himself is doing. The more he reveals about his hypocritical nature, the more apparent it becomes that kramnik himself is a cheater. Consider this, the only world champ ( out of Kasparov, Anand, Magnus, Ding, Kramnik ) who has serious cheating accusations hanging over his head is kramnik. And would you believe it, kramnik is leading the charge against cheating? How convenient.


xelabagus

Topalov is smugly sipping a champagne and saying "I told you motherfuckers 15 years ago"


alfieurbano

Cheaters are usually the most suspicious people. Because they see it as a normal behaviour. "If I do it, why wouldn't that guy do it?"


White___Velvet

It is remarkable that the chess world would be substantialy better off if a former world champion completely stopped engaging with the scene. And for basically chess related reasons.


fknm1111

>It is remarkable that the chess world would be substantialy better off if a former world champion completely stopped engaging with the scene. I mean, looking at the history of the world championship, I think that "the chess world being better off without former champion X" is the norm, not something remarkable.


White___Velvet

Who do you have in mind? Fischer, obviously, but outside of him nobody really comes to mind.


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QuickBenDelat

There’s no need for this discriminatory rhetoric.


Ready-Sherbert8362

This man is 48 years of age.


ThornPawn

of rage.


Parlorshark

Despite all his rage, he is still just a rat on a stage.


MarlonBain

Rage Against the Stockfish


Warm_Experience8908

A rat on stage 48 years of age Blinded by his rage On a rampage


adiaman

Is the Rat trapped in his own maze?


NeutrinosFTW

Not old enough to be this senile


Smort01

A crazy old man, and he's not even old.


RumpRiddler

This makes total sense because he acts like an 84 year old teenager.


Sriol

Haha so true! A senile tantrum thrower. Just split the difference xD


Unusual_Conference46

Forgot that every single time, thanks for the reminder.


RobWroteABook

Kramnik is like if you took a boomer and let them tell people they were 48


daynighttrade

So the guy who claims almost everyone who defeats him is cheating is the actual one cheating using another amount, and is trying to blame someone who found about it?


Sriol

And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!


Top-Complaint-4915

I swear he was 67 or something xD


Addrat91

Holy fuck he really is


CarsLikeEggs

Never really thought about it but a lot of chess players are younger than I think because they hit GM at a young age: * Kasparov - 60 * Ivanchuck - 55 * Gelfand - 55 * Anand - 54 * Shirov - 51 * Topalov - 49 * Morozevich - 46 * Judit - 47 * Leko - 44


MarlonBain

It is wild that people generally have a decline in their chess performance not that much later than professional athletes do at their sport.


CorrectAd6902

Profesional Chess players can still compete at older ages than in physical sports. For example Anand at 54 is still easily a top 100 player. I can't think of any physical sport where that would be the case. Maybe Golf?


Sriol

Yes, I had to go look it up too just to make sure xD


9dedos

With age you can also accumulate dumbness.


BrodeyQuest

Sheesh, that’s still relatively young imo. I thought Kramnik was in his 60s at least.


Duckfest_SfS

What the tactics! I actually needed to check, because I didn't believe this could be real. In my mind I grouped him in the same cohort as my elderly family members, but he's actually closer to my age. Wow.


electricmaster23

I think age being a barometer of maturity was a defunct notion as soon as Trump took office.


MathematicianBulky40

I think this reference is that most people thought he was \*older\*, since he's giving off angry old man vibes.


Weshtonio

It's not his fault he got banned, it's the whisteblower's. When you ask for accountability, while holding yourself to none.


BoredomHeights

Kramnik: What's chess.com doing about all these cheaters? *Gets banned from prize tournaments for cheating* Kramnik: No wait, not like that!


Infinite_Research_52

Classic LAMF


vlad_32

So Kramnik is salty for somebody finding out and revealing him cheating. Perhaps only Kramnik is allowed to accuse others of cheating but everybody else should keep their mouth shut if they notice any cheating.


Donareik

Makes you rethink toiletgate. Since people who believe everyone is a cheater are often cheaters themselves.


El_Mojo42

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social\_projection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_projection)


RobWroteABook

Kramnik definitely has bigtime "I followed a woman into the women's bathroom because I was worried she was a man going into a women's bathroom" energy.


xelabagus

Not sure if you know but "toiletgate" is a specific incident where Topalov accused Kramnik of cheating in a the world championship reunification match in 2006. He still maintains Kramnik was cheating.


Plane_Experience1651

According to Kramnik, he had an upset stomach that day, which caused him to go to the toilet multiple times for one game


xelabagus

Yeah well according to my son his car broke down and the bus was late and his phone was out of battery so that's why he was late home last night.


Parlorshark

Gross, and that is correct.


Legitimate-Angle9861

I don't know about cheating in world championships but I am 99% convinced that Kramnik cheated on chesscom atleast to check the anti cheating measures. Then when it didn't ban him he started his crusades. Or he cheated cause he thought someone else was cheating. 


maxkho

I have absolutely no doubt this is true lmao. Like, literally 90%+ confident (and I'm usually known for being conservative in my guesses). There's no reason he'd be this confident about his ridiculous cheating accusations otherwise.


Ecstatic_Explorer_25

I always fully believed kramnik had cheated that WCC, even if only for a single game, dude is a legend no doubt, but what a terrible person.


trevpr1

The Toiletgate GM died at the weekend.


hsiale

There was a big toiletgate during Kramnik-Topalov WCC match, when Topalov's team openly accused Kramnik of cheating and there was a real chance that the match will be stopped.


tenyearsofisolation

Wait really?


MarlonBain

Everyone hates on The Great Divide episode of ATLA but it isn’t wrong.


Trouve_a_LaFerraille

Noo nooo, he wasn't cheating! He was only "cheating" to investigate how easy it is to cheat.


hyperthymetic

He’s literally the only player suspected of cheating in a world championship. It’s projection all the way down . . . Edit: I mean turtles, turtles all the way down


bitter-demon

Not true. Topalov was also suspected. Korchnoi vs Karpov drama was even more intense


Consistent_Set76

Those two just hated each other though


MathematicianBulky40

The Karpov/ Soviet side in Baguio pulled some crazy stunts though. They had a hypnotist sit in the front row and just stare at Korchnoi during the game, for instance.


hyperthymetic

By that standard it was Fischer and Spasky, I mean literal mind control folks, I mean microwaves and special lsd, if you know you know man 😉


Davidfreeze

I’ve played chess on lsd, it was against someone else also on lsd but I won so from my perspective it clearly makes you better at chess


SpicyMustard34

tbf to Fischer, the Russians did collude against him.


breaker90

Yeah, Topalov was suspected of cheating. In San Luis 2005, the other FIDE WC contenders suspected he was cheating after going 6.5/7. He was moved to a different table for the second half of the tournament and didn't win another game. Here's more info on how many different parties thought Topalov was cheating: https://en.chessbase.com/post/nigel-short-pushes-for-cheating-enquiry


Tokenron

To be fair to Topalov that's the same Nigel Short who claimed he was playing Fischer moonlighting as a genius recluse on ICC when he was actually foaming at the mouth somewhere in suburban Reykjavik


TemplarKnightsbane

It was always obvious Kramnik had some guilty conscious' I thought that from the start that it will inevitebly be him who gets found out for flouting the rules. I love being right. I love that Kramnik got what was owed to him even more though.


dylanh334

To everyone who wanted to watch my stream from titles, thank me for breaking the rules and being salty when I'm caught.


Varsity_Editor

Is Kramnik now the highest rated player found cheating?


karstomp

And only world chess champion?


lil_meep

Second world champ to go crazy though


9dedos

He s not only a high rated player, he s wc. He took the title from fucking goat kasparov. He have a lot to lose.


DinosaurSr2

Kramnik should be happy - he's finally proven that there is cheating occurring on chesscom. Cheating by Kramnik that is.


cuginhamer

I never thought that Kramnik would end up proving chess grandmasters cheating at extremely high levels. 


Parlorshark

"I have exposed corruption, and I **will** expect a medal."


MrMarbles94

The Obama medal meme


RobWroteABook

Kramnik already proved cheating. He just used the Michael Scott bankruptcy method: "I. DECLARE. CHEATINNGGG."


TeamSavage666

That's Hella funny 🤣🤣


Impossible-Touch9470

So he stalls and blocks when people win, uses alt accounts and calls out cheating while cheating himself? I had no idea I’d played against him so many times


Arthur_Asterion

Every time I think Kramnik couldn't possibly get more smug, he proves he can. "Youtuber posing as chess player", my ass. I guess, now everyone has to get a license signed by him or they can't possibly call themselves a chess player? Dude, it's just a fucking board game, everyone can play it.


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Dr_Dressing

No, but you see; he's _merely_ just an IM. Obviously those aren't chess players.


jrobinson3k1

His ego and entitlement are surreal.


OtheDreamer

Well, looks like Kramnik was right about the cheaters after all…


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OtheDreamer

That time was like a year or two ago when the Hans thing happened. Need to start stripping titles, that’s the only way I can think of to deter cheating at the highest levels. They have almost nothing to lose but reputation & invites. If they start losing titles I guarantee it will slow the spread at least, because very few GMs will want to risk their precious lifetime titles


therealpaulmorphy

Only reason he hasn’t been permabanned is because he was World Champion.


Jack_Harb

I love the hypocrisy. He is simply a cheater. It's kinda obvious now. Someone who cheats is always thinking the same about others. Zero accountability on his behavior. Hell even Hans had more accountability. Kramnik is finding finally the cheater in TT. Wouldn't have thought it's him after all he have done, but it makes sense. The irony is just scripted. It's too good to be true really. No more "let's do the procedure". Glad he is out.


Pentinium

finally, fucking finally. Just need him to do 1 more bullshit and so they can ban him entirely.


IncendiaryIdea

And how will he then provide entertainment?


9dedos

He will open his own chess site with blackjack and hookers.


karstomp

Oh, he’ll manage, I’m sure


checkersthenchess

He'll move to lichess. And wage a crusade against the cheaters there while cheating himself of course.


DarkLordRubidore

I hear the circus is a good place to work these days, they're looking for a new clown


ssim7891

# Why does mr Kramnik play TT on Denis Khismatullin’s account?


InvestmentPrankster

Impressive. All Kramnik had to do was gracefully see out the final phase of his career and he would have gone down as a respected and legendary chess player. Instead he's tearing apart his legacy day by day. Still one of the all time greats, but now when we think of Kramnik it is a lot more muddy.


turelure

That's the sad part. I always liked the guy, he had a sense of humor, seemed to be genuinely nice. I enjoyed listening to his commentary, his interviews were always interesting. I think most people in the chess world had a lot of respect for him. All down the drain.


InvestmentPrankster

As did I. Such a shame. Hard to understand why this happened. What made him snap?


MathematicianBulky40

Fischer could have lived a life of fame and luxury after his championship win. Instead he went down the crazy anti-Semitic hobo route.


lil_meep

Once is an anomaly. Two world champions going crazy? Clearly chess makes you insane


Doctor_FatFinger

Impossible! How can they ban him if he already quit? "I have decided to stop playing on chess.com from tomorrow on."


a_sooshii

takes a cheater to idenitfy a cheater :p


A_Certain_Surprise

Rare Chess.c\*m win, actions have consequences, Vlad


heisl_

But shouldn’t his whole account being shut down? TT is at least something I guess


A_Certain_Surprise

I would agree with that tbh. I do think he's been let off a LOT easier than any of us would, but it's a start and it's getting Vlad angry, so I'll take it


heisl_

I just remembered that chesscom implemented a rule which allows you to evade a cheating ban IF you admit it (for titled players only if I understand correctly), so *technically*, he did admit it, but by that logic, the TT ban should also be revoked..? Idk man


morrbanesh

he probably will also get his diamond membership. well played kramnik, well played.


indonemesis

You are allowed to say Chess.cum


A_Certain_Surprise

I'm more implying that the name of the site is a slur, but I like that too


JeNiqueTaMere

Chess.semen


ShirouBlue

Ahahaha, okay this was pretty funny. Kramnik: "Ofc I know cheaters....it's me"


FiveJobs

Interesting


RotisserieChicken007

Good riddance.


Landofa1000wankers

Imagine how many celebrated people from history there must be who would have tarnished their reputations if they’d had access to social media.


GeologicalPotato

"How dare they make me accountable for my own actions?"


iL0g1cal

Finally. Let the crying commence.


Ign0r

Shouldn't Denis also be suspended?


joshdej

I think he was already because of his war stance. That was the guy who Duda didn't wanna shake hands with


Ign0r

Thanks.


ischolarmateU

How was he sysoended for his war stanje if vlad played on his acc?


joshdej

Vlad played on his account circa Sept/Oct. 2023 to December 2023. He got suspended early January. From [chess.com](https://www.chess.com/news/view/polish-number-1-refuses-handshake-with-russian-gm)


VoradorTV

lmaoooo Kramnik actually cheated hahahahaha


LowLevel-

I find it particularly disturbing that, in a context of easy witch-hunting and emotional fanaticism, he has no hesitation in publicly presenting someone else as the cause of his impossibility to play in Titled Tuesday.


_Tarumi_

You know, it's so embarrassing to look at, especially considering that I'm russian myself and he's one of the high level players who kind of "represent" your country in professional chess (honestly maybe I still don't know a lot since I'm newbie, but I often see news how he accusing people, talking shit while cheating himself, lol)


Temporary-Camera-791

No one with maturity really cares about that stuff. Russia is remembered for better players than Kramnik anyway.


NBAGuyUK

If that translation is accurate, that's all we need to hear from Kramnik to know he's at least an asshole, if not a narcissist. He's mad at someone for exposing him breaking the (very clear) rules and also makes no effort to take accountability for actually breaking them, nor seeing any wrong in him doing it. This despite the constant cheating accusations against other players. I'm done with this guy, hopefully we can now all stop posting his regular accusations as if they are news.


darkscyde

When you stare too long into the cheating abyss...


dritslem

Kramnik suspended for breach of fair play is peak irony.


paradox109

Funny part is he was actually pulling decent numbers on his YT Live streams. So he also lost income from donations.


StuffLeft6116

You played yourself by not playing yourself.


joshdej

Ngl, I'm gonna miss his TT streams


smsa98

Is the other guy who gave him his account banned too? Cuz he should be imo.


imdoomz

Holy shit his other tweets in that thread are embarrassing.. typical cheater behaviour where when you get caught you just deflect any and all blame to whatever possible. Crazy.


paradox109

Pretty sure, from now on, he will only use his friends account. So keep an eye.


GribblePibble

You can’t script this… it’s a pretty tragic way for his career to wind down…


SidneyKidney

Calling for his followers/fans to pile on this player is just awful. No recognition that he broke the rules. Is he genuinely ok?


tobiasvl

This Kramnik guy sounds like a real jerk


AstridPeth_

Dear God. Why can't Kramnik just be a likeable former world champion like Karpov, Kasparov, Anand, and Carlsen?


phroney

I thought Russians had a pretty good grip on the concept of irony


sA1atji

Is this the guy complaining about cheaters? Ans he cheated himself?


ajahiljaasillalla

Feels like chess.om wanted to ban Kramnik due to his "cheating tuesday streams" filled with ridiculous accusations towards anyone who dared to beat Kramnik. They found a reason to ban him without touching his cheating accusations


AimHere

Given he was just blurting out scattergun cheating accusations at every single person who beat him, and a ton of people at random, the accusations are easy to dismiss, on the grounds that someone who calls everyone a cheat gives you absolutely zero indication as to whether they're more likely than anyone else to be cheating.


Original-Rough-815

Eat some popcorn


Giant_leaps

Interesting


Cannolioso

This guy is such a piece of shit


CadetCovfefe

This is like when a fighter constantly accuses his opponents of being on steroids, then pisses hot for PEDS himself haha.


Schaakmate

The gift that keeps on giving...


ssim7891

Here is the comment of Mr Kramnik under the video where Galchenko exposes him playing on Denis' account. It is written in Russian, so I just ran it through google translate: In response to the nervous attacks of YouTuber Galchenko, I can say the following: As an experiment to collect data and test cheating methods in chesscom, I actually played SEVERAL tournaments under the nickname Krakozia, which I chose from FIVE accounts offered to me for this purpose by fellow grandmasters. I chose this one primarily because of the similarity of our ratings and the approximate strength of the game on the platform. By the way, many Russian and foreign top players knew about this. I said right away that even if I accidentally earned a prize, I was not going to take it away. In the tournaments that I played, I didn’t make it into the top five. I received the most useful information by playing under a different nickname, which I also use to build an anti-cheating system. I don’t see a problem in playing under someone else’s nickname if the chess player is comparable in strength to the owner A frequent practice in chesscom, if the author of this denunciation does not know about it, I'm informing you. It’s certainly more ethical than playing completely incognito, as many chess players did. After all, at least this way the opponent knows the approximate strength of the opponent. And even more so than publishing dirty denunciations on their channels. I myself know of several cases, but due to the lack of “crime” in this, I am not going to name names, simply for ethical reasons, plus self-esteem. I don’t know YouTuber Galchenko either as a person or as a chess player, but his dirty hints and attempts to denigrate me, made with a feigned smile, do not make me want to get to know him. But I’ll look at the games and publish OBJECTIVE conclusions as soon as they reach players at the FIDE 2400 level. Currently busy analyzing chess players' games. I will publish the results soon, many impressive performances. No respect Vladimir Kramnik


NickyLarsso

Wait, did he really end with 'No respect' or it's some poor translation?


ssim7891

in Russian in the end of the letter it is common to write "с уважением" which literally means "with respect", so having written "без уважения" ("No respect") mr Kramnik emphasized his feelings towards Galchenko for his revealing video


Apprehensive-Nose646

Didn't Kramnik once say something about how chesscom needs to go after all cheaters, even if they are high profile GMs?


clorgie

Without trying to diagnose from afar, I'd wager that Kramnik is mentally ill. Some of these behaviors go back a long way in slightly altered forms. The whole thing makes me sad, really, because Big Vlad is an amazing player, and has often been gregarious and good humored to an exceptional degree. The increased paranoia, narcissism, and intensified persecution complex in a bubble largely of his own creation is sadly parallel to many of his age (I'm a few years older) and their political views and expression nowadays...as is this kind of reaction when caught, countered or rebuffed.


Lichewitz

Finally they did something about this nutcase. Absolute disgrace to the sport, and his days of positively contributing to the game are long gone


runawayasfastasucan

All this talk about cheating in chess is kind of crazy. Do we really think there are so many players who are breaking the rules like the chess cheater Vladimir Kramnik? Is Kramniks cheating just the top of the ice berg? Call me naive but I can't help to think that just because Kramnik cheats at chess it doesn't mean that other top players are doing it. Vladimir Kramniks cheating should not stain other players, and just because Vladimir Kramnik is a cheater doesn't mean that every other top player is.


ShayMM

This guy is something else. I initially thought he was trolling when blaming everyone for cheating (for the views, of course), but I truly believe he has some sorta egotistical problem that doesn’t look good for him


gitblame_fgc

I like how Kramnik tweets in russian when he wants to say his dumbest things. Fits so well


inflamesburn

knows his audience


SecretSpectre4

lmao actual crybaby


MD-trading-NQ

So we should blame someone else for his wrongdoing and cheating? Is that what he's saying? Bloody guy's unhinged indeed. Too old to have teenagers tantrum, too young to be be bitter old man.


llinoscarpe

He is obviously implying that his fans should go and send abuse to him, Vlad frankly should be banned for that as well, very disappointing conduct from a former world champion


BlessedCleanApe

Kramnik has lost his mind. But not his playing strength he seems to be just as strong lmao


Beginning_Argument

I wonder how he even found out. If Denis appeared to be playing suspiciously too well what connected him to kramnik


Yowan

So he was the cheater the whole time


kaperisk

Don't blame me for cheating, blame the guy who ratted me out.


ice_w0lf

I would love to see Jospem tweet out sometime like "Thinking about pulling out Clash of Claims as I'm not a fan of playing cheaters."


ralph_wonder_llama

He quote-tweeted chesscom's statement and only added the thinking face emoji: https://twitter.com/GMJoseMartinez/status/1775602813357150298


YourPetPenguin0610

I can't believe an ex-WC would be this immature


Blazian06

Interesting


Bedenker

Truly the smallest man in chess


AzureAlliance

Please make sure he stays banned.


Lucky-Historian7292

Just play on another account bruv


jenejene123

Wait. What did Kramnik do this time? Did he cheat? Genuine question. By the looks of it, Kramnik has really lost his marbles.


hacefrio2

What a buffoon


CreeperDude17

How long until Kramnik accuses Magnus of cheating


Few_Cryptographer_22

now I'm really wondering if he was actually cheating against Topalov..


UndeniablyCrunchy

Really, what happened to this man? He used to be such a legend, such a respected and admirable man. He was the one to defeat Kasparov, he was the Iceman. He was so well regarded and now he is just trash. His legacy, his reputation, his career and all, just wasted. Thrown into oblivion, mockery and shame. Damn dude, the guy has gone from king to clown. I would feel sorry for him but he is not making it easy. I don’t feel sorry for him.


the69fury

Could a grown man cry any more?


archived_chats

The accuser becomes the accused 😂


DON7fan

I was already suprised , because he didnt play Xheating Tuesdays yesterday.


Chemical-Ad-8202

April fool's?


Elegant-Breakfast-77

Chesscom were looking for a reason to suspend him after all the drama I guess lol


DON7fan

Yeah, they were waiting for a mistake and now Kramnik made one.


randalph83

Not sure they even minded that much. Kramnik calling it 'cheating tuesday' is kind of bad. On the other hand noone took him seriously anymore. Whether or not they waited for it: This was just a clear breaking of the rules. It is Kramniks sole responsibility. He fucked up and now he can't even admit it.


EvilSporkOfDeath

Like when an outspoken homophobic person is revealed to be gay. Kramnik accusing everyone of cheating cause he is a secret cheater.