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NoMoreMrMiceGuy

If you hit "Show moves" it'll show you the sequence that makes it losing. You can even click on the moves to watch it play out on the board.


Catch-1992

This needs to be an auto-reply to these types of posts. I'm all for discussion but so often the analysis would literally answer OPs question precisely and instantly.


Matix777

It already is one of auto replies


siryolk

Redditors never read auto replies


BaslerLaeggerli

Unsurprisingly tbh


GarrySpacepope

But then how far do you go, some of them generate good discussion that I learn something from. You might as well say never ask anything on Reddit, just use Google/chat gpt


MonsterKappa

Tbf at my elo (500) "show moves" option shows moves I would have never seen the player make.


RandomMitherFucker

Then u create the position in analyze, play what u think response would be, and see how stockfish would punish it


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Daneosaurus

“Missed mate in 19”


One_Market313

When I click show moves it asks me to pay money.


LunarChickadee

Wow! I didn't realize. Thanks for saying this.


bomberblu

Today we learned how the horsie moves


Anileaatje

Just taught my 4-year old yesterday. Surprisingly not that difficult to understand.


RustedCorpse

Yea till they start moving backwards. Still gets me from time to time and I'm fairly up there.


verymuchbad

Sometimes I forget pawns can go forward. I'm not kidding.


RustedCorpse

I've had at least two puzzles with a coach where, spending 5+ minutes before realizing I'm reading the board backward.


verymassivedingdong

That’s literally the only way they can go, how the hell does that even happen


verymuchbad

Once it's in the middle game, they can start to be part of the scenery for me while I focus on moving the big boys around.


SmolNajo

>still gets me >fairly up there I'm sorry but these seem contradictory. What do you mean by "fairly up there" ?


RustedCorpse

I'm in a top percentage on those interwebz sites.


hazz4rd_

Arent you just the coolest...


Adamant3--D

Are you sure? Even Andrea Botez doesn't understand it she had to ask the former world champion


ColeTD

Imma be honest, I forgot about the knight at first too when I was analyzing this.


Colon_Backslash

Oh damn. I was analysing that they'll play f6 and you just lose tempo, lol.


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Davidlc02

I love how the flair ELO’s increase along with the oversights


Guilherme17712

funny that the first move that drawed my attention was knight takes h6 and I was so confused because I couldn't find any good response lmao


exsea

knight be like itadakimasu


The_Zoink

I was thinking about how the knight could potentially trap the queen after like 5 moves lol. I overthink things so much


brentspine

Damn same


Epidexipteryz

Knight takes


bikerbob101

Thanks didn’t see the knight


MidnightUberRide

yeah try looking harder before posting.


PacGamingAgain

reminder this is r/chessbeginners Calm down


MidnightUberRide

what if I don't want to calm down? Martin Luthor king jr. once said: "I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired". There are plenty of subreddits that are available spaces for players of any game level. Why does the fact that a subreddit is designed for beginner chess players immediately excuse a lack of basic competence? If you don't understand how to look at a game board for 5 seconds before posting about it on the internet, then maybe you don't deserve the answer.


PacGamingAgain

Because for a beginner, it is not basic competence. I’m sorry that not everyone is as wonderfully blessed in this game as you are, some people geniunely don’t know better. Again, Beginners is the thing here. These are people that are replicating what they see, like toddlers learning to speak. They don’t think about it. Not in the same way average and above players do. If you don’t want to see beginner level problems, maybe don’t be in a beginner level subreddit. If you are sick and tired of people asking obvious questions, don’t be in a subreddit for beginners.


MidnightUberRide

I am sorry that the toddlers in this subreddit aren't as wonderfully blessed as me.


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PepperPoker

After which Qxh8


Jeechan

no, if the pawn takes it queen takes rook


ludwigia_sedioides

Ah


TALENTAPNIGANDMEDAAL

Why y'all downvoting him. He just didn't see that.


Malik316

He isn’t even wrong. The pawn can still take it.


Bostino

Yeah but if it did queen takes rook, and black has no defense against it


Rates_Fathan

Updoot


Stickyjoe69

Queen takes rook


RouFGO

Even without the knight, the pawn can still get it, it's a blunder because you're giving them a bishop and getting nothing in exchange


MARs048

OPs intention was to get the rook by opening up the pawn by them taking the bishop


Jzchessman

If the pawn takes, you take the rook with the queen.


ChrisCrossGG

Another comment pointed this out, but black can then play Nf6, which effectively traps the queen in the corner. (The queen could either take the bishop or knight before getting taken itself, but it's still a net loss for white.)


davidshatto

You can trap the queen this way but it isn’t actually easy to attack it so there is the possibility to escape later on


Relative-Bank-1258

Yes. Also you technically use 11 points in order to block a queen worth 9 points. Losing the rook+ having your bishop pinned+ using knight to trap the queen. The other side would technically be at an advantage


Meetchel

I've allowed the rook capture in several very similar positions with the assumption I was going to eventually win the queen in a few games, and never was I actually able to nail it down (confirmed by analysis that I never had a true opportunity). Queens are slippery, especially if the nearby pawns are double isolated flank pawns.


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How? It's on its starting square and has been for the whole game. Edit: okay, I'll come clean. I actually didn't see the knight at first either, BUT I would never play Bh6 because pattern recognition has taught me that it's a blunder because the bishop is hanging, and that was true even though I didn't consciously notice the knight.


aegians

Why’s this downvoted


opi098514

You just give them a free bishop.


algo-rhyth-mo

Yeah but I didn’t want that bishop anyway.


ItsMeHanamii

You should send it on vacation!


AndrewVan0604

It would never come back though.


Spllatty

knightmare fuel!


TheCoolHusky

got knightmares? better call exorcists


RacketyAJ

Ignite the bed


_rand0m_guy

do you mean vatican?


LawrenceMK2

*the bishop leaves the board and goes on a vacation to Paris, diagonally of course*


Strength-InThe-Loins

Nah, man, when bishops leave the Vatican they only go to Avignon.


Routine-Chad

based


madhaxor

he was a sinner


SnooCheesecakes5382

That's 3k elo gaming tbh


bikerbob101

If they took the bishop with the pawn, I would’ve taken the rook with my queen. That was my thought process.


RedditBoi415

They can take the bishop with the knight


mnsportsfandespair

Even if it went like that, they play Nf6 and your queen is trapped. It’s still winning for you but in low Elo an active queen is more beneficial.


Colon_Backslash

The best move for black is to take with knight Nxh6. Although f6 simply counters your attack as well and your bishop gets kicked indirectly.


opi098514

Thats called hope chess. You should never play hope chess.


RustedCorpse

Hope Bullet however....


Chase_the_tank

>Thats called hope chess. You should never play hope chess. Unless you're quite behind, in which case "hope chess" is called "trying to pull off a [swindle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swindle_(chess))".


opi098514

It’s not a blunder. It’s a gambit.


Fallout2022

Even if the knight wasn't there Black could play queen to f6 and you'll also be a piece down shortly.


JanitorOPplznerf

As others have said, the Knight takes is the immediate answer here. But your development is really weak here. In general when you launch early attacks at the expense of development you’re going to get punished.


WearyToday4693

not to mention that this is quite literally an example of hope chess, meaning that you play moves and HOPE that your opponent responds a specific way. if they don't respond that specific way, then you're losing. here, op HOPES that his opponent takes with the pawn. but as you said, if they take with the knight then OP is simply losing


DinoBirdsBoi

its not hope chess if the op played it simply because they thought it was a good move then its just a blunder and imma be honest i did NOT see that horsie cuz i blind as hell


WearyToday4693

that's exactly what hope chess is: a blunder op DID think it was a good move because he had hopes that his opponent would take the bishop with the pawn


DinoBirdsBoi

i think that hope chess is purely contextual lol i think he thought that the only way they could take it is with the pawn and that if offered a free bishop with only 1 way to take it, theyd take it in which case, its just a regular blunder if it was hope chess i dont think theyd be posting here asking why its a blunder


WearyToday4693

i do see what you mean but regardless, op was HOPING that his opponent would take with the pawn. note that it's a hope because his opponent isn't obligated to take it


DinoBirdsBoi

op said they didnt see the knight so op thought that the only way to take it was the pawn just a good ol' fashioned blunder imo hope is when you play hoping that the opponent messes up they just make mistake


111llI0__-__0Ill111

Theres multiple definitions of hope chess. One of them is that you dont consider all possible replies


WearyToday4693

>hope is when you play hoping that the opponent messes up that's...exactly what OP did. He put his bishop there hoping that the opponent would take with the pawn. If they did that, they would have messed up. this literally fits your definition.


Spllatty

but they didn't hope the opponent didn't take with the knight, they forgot about the knight, they didnt hope for anything


WearyToday4693

??? i literally just said that they hoped opponent takes with pawn. the extent to which redditors deliberately misconstrue things amazes me!


itsastart_to

It’s still hoping they take bishop with pawn. They could also advance any other piece too and now this decision is for naught


PeterSagansLaundry

But not all blunders are hope. (not all dogs are beagles, etc.)


JingleMyJangus

To be fair, black's development is even worse, even after ...Nxh6


bikerbob101

Yeah, I know my development was pretty bad. I was playing the London, but then. It turned into this. thanks though for the tip to prioritize development.


werics

Google "horse"


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Google "le cheval"


BazzaJH

Your bishop is undefended, so this move loses material.


WearyToday4693

knights in the corner are grim but not when you can win free bishops!


SassyE7

Google corner


fpcoffee

knights on the rims are dim


Euphoric-Beat-7206

How is it not a blunder? To me it looks like black can just take the bishop for free with the knight. I don't see any sort of follow up for white. White is not losing after this move as they were already up a piece, but they gave away a lot of their advantage.


bikerbob101

I was blind and didn’t see the horse, but I was hoping they would take with the pawn and then I would take the rook with the queen


Bulldog5124

For future reference, hope chess is a really really bad way to play.


Euphoric-Beat-7206

It would have been a fine move if they took with the pawn.


spinark

Even if they take with the pawn, Knight to f6 traps the queen in the corner. Essentially making it useless or forcing you to trade the queen for a lesser piece


Euphoric-Beat-7206

Yea, she might get in trouble down the line. Still wins an exchange before that though.


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DonaD0ny

Press show move


infintestruggler

Let me ask you this, how does a knight move?


BigKeanuwholesum100

Violently


MisterET

Working on the knight moves


Stanko997

thats a thats a good question,it generally moves like an L.Some times in bliz games it can be very unpredictibale


PatchesOneArm

“Your bishop is undefended, so this move loses material” What’s the question


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somerandomperson2516

op needs new glasses


The_Frogo_191

What elo are you?


bikerbob101

450 started playing in December


Sonicblast52

Supposing you were going after the rook in the corner, if they take the bishop, Qxh8, then Nf6 traps the queen. Then can also capture your bishop with the knight


GushGirlOC

Knightmere fuel


IProbablyHaveADHD14

Knight takes


JustFossa

he can take with knight


Ecstatic-Ad-2742

Enemy can take with knight


RepulsiveFinger512

it can be taken with knight


sh4rks_bro

On a totally unrelated note wtf is your opponent doing playing b6 for rather than taking the completely free bishop.


ShadowDragonOG

I may not be GOOD at chess, but i'm confused as to what the everloving god you were doing there


bikerbob101

I was hoping pawn takes and my queen takes rook


Eric_J_Pierce

What is the plan after Nxh6..?


bikerbob101

I didn’t see that night I was betting on the pawn and then I would take the rook


Eric_J_Pierce

So...that is why Bh6 was a blunder.


Interesting-Bee3700

See that little button saying show moves? Press it.


TheThinker4Head

Google how the knight moves Answer to your question: What are you planning to do after knight takes bishop?


Dyynasty

Nf6


soofpot

Knight takes bishop and that's it


crypt0zoologist

Weird question but what app is this? Seems good for learning


bikerbob101

Chess.com after your game hit game review


l0wkeylegend

lmao, my thought process was after gxh6 and Qxh8, Nf6 locks the queen. Didn't see that black can just take the bishop with the knight.


MaxGamer07

This, at first, seems like a great move. You threaten to take the pawn on g7, and win the rook, while also threatening to take it as well if they take your bishop with the pawn. One problem: There's a knight that can also take, rendering this attack pointless.


py234567

I’m guessing the thought process was he takes with the pawn I’ll take his rook and maybe another piece if he blunders. But what happens if he takes with the knight? You have no follow


Brave_Bid5260

Ah, the "Mayan human sacrifice" move. Classic


CoItron_3030

My guess is Knight takes bishop and you gain nothing from it?


orangejuice1234

your opponent also forgot the knight exists


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The pawn diagonal to your bishop can easily kill it


Apprehensive-Call356

Your bishop is undefended so you're losing material


Positive_Walk6032

Because you hung a bishop


Baers89

If ur plan was to sack ur bishop to get the castle you will trap ur queen by him moving his paw up.


nameisreallydog

Horsie takes church man


minecon1776

horse takes?


Jweeeb_

Why did u let the bot analyze if ur not gonna read what it says


SmokeySFW

What's your plan when he takes with that knight instead of the pawn?


Simo9105

Knight to H6


TheTurtleCub

Press the "show moves" button


diego27865

Idk - why don’t you try the “show moves” button?


Kodekima

Kxh6 is how.


TheFlyingPatato

The black pawn can take the bishop


Putrid-Hotel-7624

that's not quite it. 1. Bh6 gxh6 2. Qxh8 and white is winning However, after 1. Bh6 Nxh6, black has lost a bishop for no reason


TheFlyingPatato

Ah, I am also new to chess so I stated what I saw


Putrid-Hotel-7624

it's ok, we all startsomewhere! good luck on your journey up the ranks!


Trash-official

Because they can take with the knight


No_Talk_4836

Pawn takes bishop/ knight takes bishop blunder cause you lose a valuable piece to a pawn.


mrcjsingh12

I mean you blundered cause knight takes but the next few moves by your opponent are insane blunders.


MaybeTemi

knight can capture the bishop and now you lose a bishop.


111llI0__-__0Ill111

Nxh6…black doesnt have to do gxh6


ducksumchilds

Horsie go brrrr


jellybean41034

Chess.com engine are not known for their accuracy especially at this level


HideTheDwarfs

Queentrap after xh6 qxh8 kf6


Myrmidon49

You win a room but the game shows you blunder w bishop because it is undefended


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Kxh6


Spinningwhirl79

Bishop goes bye bye


SpiderNinja211

I always forget about the knight too


The_Divine_Anarch

Side question: Is it considered wrong or in bad form here to simply check with the queen and permanently turn off white's ability to castle, THEN take the bishop with the knight? I don't see why that wouldn't be recommended here. Does that lose? ​ Oh nevermind, they just move the bishop if you do that.


Working_Horror4904

Nxh6


Seapuppy2006

Qa5 or knight take


CFW97

Even if they do take with the pawn, after Qxh8, Nf6 traps the queen


itsastart_to

Knight takes


pezpeculiar

horsie


natepines

Knight can take and that's just a loss of a bishop. If they do miss it though and take with the pawn, you may not want to take the rook as Nf6 traps the queen.


obchodlp

Qd5+ Be7 Qxg7 material win


vasyleus

You thought that he is going to take with the pawn, okay, but then still if you take his rook then Kf6 traps your queen


SoullessHollowHusk

Cxh6


GushGirlOC

Bishop went on vacation and never returned.


cartof_fiert

everyone's talking about the knight, even without that knight, couldnt the pawn just take it???


Joedemigod4

Well yes but if the pawn takes, the queen can capture the rook.


cartof_fiert

ooh, yeah i forgot about that


aRdA_lUlE

Meanwhile knight


[deleted]

Bing search knight moves


DrillPower_173

Your bishop is undefended, so this move loses material.


zappierbeast

Pawn takes


chubbybarista

Besides being the most obvious sacrifice the game of chess has ever seen? Nothing…


Sykes19

This is a little off topic but how do all these posts have those messages telling the player if they did poorly/well? Is there like a chess app that teaches you how to play as you do it? I stumbled upon this subreddit from main and I've been getting curious. Chess is daunting but this actually looks really interesting and helpful.


[deleted]

You giving away a bishop?


IdioticCheese936

Should've approached with knight THEN bishop because then it'd be protected byt you are in a position to take that pawn but your bishop gets fucked over by the enemies bishop right after


A_Flipped_Car

I did this before because I also forgot about the knight. Thankfully so did they