They definitely need to fix tabard transmog. It only allows you to transmog your tabard if it is higher than white quality. And then you can only transmog to other green/blue/purple quality tabards. I have a ton of tabards unlocked from Outland and exalted reps. I want to mog them on alts but you can’t unless you have the tabard because of it being a white/common quality.
I was in a gnome-only guild and if you were playing with tree of life (that was on ascension), you *had* to drink a noggenfogger for the shrink effect to raid :D
Idk if it’s in prepatch, but on beta when I tried spriest there was a glyph that seriously tuned down the shadow form effect, so you can see your tmogs better
Are there any currently working for cata classic? I've been looking around the last week and can't find any.
EDIT: Found one, that was just made 3 days ago. https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/transmogoutfitmanager
I have thinderfury, that's why I'm so excited! I mained a warrior tank and couldn't get the 2nd binding although we farmed MC for over 8 months. I finally finished it at the end of tbc when the guild was bored enough to run back to MC and try to finish it. It was bittersweet finishing it but then it just sat there in my bags. I'm so happy I can finally enjoy it since I wasn't allowed to in classic.
I ground MC for mogs last year and even taking 14 characters a week thru it took me about 8 or 9 months to get the second half on the same character. I had one half or the other on pretty much everyone. Only took about 3 months to make Sulfuras
Yeah blizzards system is fucky with binding drops and such. There were so many hugely successful guilds on our server who had multiple thunderfurys completed but for whatever reason we had me and then another guy line for the same binding. It got pretty demoralizing for us going in there week after week and getting nothing out of it because we had everything by then but we really wanted to finish one.
Yeah I was just grinding for transmogs and not for something w actual stat value like if I was in classic. It was still a PITA. I quit grinding UBRS for the Arcanite Champion pattern bc .2% drop is insane and it got old real fast, but I still gave it about 300 runs. Statistically another 200 runs and I should have it heh.
You have no taste if you actually tmorg shadowmourne, really ugly legendary. And the only people that tmorg TF are rogues and frost DK + prot paladin (which are both gonna be underrepresented in Cataclysm).
I think you'll see a lot more hunters with the bow and casters with Valanyr!
I could see it being a shaman weapon if they could use swords. A weapon imbued with lightning seems like the perfect fit for ele and enhance. But yeah doesn't make much sense my warlock having thunderfury, but I like the sword and my other class uses 2h so it's my only class I can see it on lol
Eh so what...these weapons are awesome. Alternative is them collecting dust in the bank...I'm glad I'll be able for the first time ever to actually raid with Sulfuras without it being a complete meme lul.
I can see some reasons for not allowing hiding nearly every slot or grey quality/joke items etc but some of the features absolutely should have been in.
Idk, could make for some cool styles. Skyrim style plate mage or some monk paladin idk.
Other way around should definitely be possible though IMO (mog plat to cloth) as plate users have been using leather and cloth all the time 'till now.
Honestly surprised we didn't see enchant transmogs/illusions or whaetver they're called. I can see why we didn't get a complete retail transmog system and I'm kind of glad since the world looks a lot less silly without people running around half naked and shit, but some of the features from retail absolutely should have been in.
Try double TF on a gnome. It’s hilarious. On the back clipping thru the ground as you run. Or hold them out while you run and watch them wobble back and forth insanely
while they are at it, maybe remove some weapon type restriction for us casters. I don't like my dagger and I can only mogg it to other daggers, while melees can mogg their two handers into sword, axe and hammer. Sounds unfair
At the same time, let me unlock at least quest rewards as appearances, ATM you can only mog plate on pala it's fine... But let me unlock cloth etc from quests... For other characters
I would just like my Transmogs to actually show up. I had full T6, never showed up in the tab but for some reason other random raid items that I have not had in my inventory since 2019 do.
If we have transmog in cata then at least go all the way with it. Applying gray and white items, dungeon loot table for old expansions like in retail. Right now we have to use atlas and it’s still not updated (beside temporary fix).
Agreed, I haven't worn tabards since WoW Classic began. It looks like a painted potato sack covering the armor. As soon as I hit exalted with my guild, I'm vendoring it.
Why did they introduce such a half baked transmog system? Why not just go for the full retail one, makes zero sense. Let us mog our tabards, let us hide shit. It's so weird how they've done it.
Remove limitations on xmog, don't cut drop chances on old raid mounts, allow people to enter old Naxx again, and allow people to enter old ZG again just like old Ony.
I don't see the point in punishing people who, for whatever reason, couldn't get those items when they were "easily" obtained.
Transmog is one of the things that broke WoW for me. You used to look at someone and immediately know how strong the character is. Transmog makes everything bland.
Nobody looks at a character, and I’m the middle of playing deciphers what each individual piece they are wearing it and uses that to tell how strong someone is. This is just bs. If you want to know how strong someone might be, you just look at their healthbar.
I get what you mean, and especially back during OG WoW I feel like seeing the cool gear folks "earned" had a lot of value because it wasn't super common
but imo this immediately broke down in Classic with how easy all the content was and once GDKPs got involved, forget about it, gear has negative prestige at this point
I still found it nice to see people with recognizable gear, even if they are more common.
I made it to gold cap flipping transmog gear in WoD, but never transmogged my gear, always preferred to see how I looked with the gear I was actually wearing.
Totally agree that it makes how people look pretty meaningless, but it's still fun to make *your* character look how you want it to look. If you like the new gear or want to show off how strong you are, you can decide to not transmog and show off your Heroic Tier.
Expect thats just false. You literally can't do that. Half the items in game are either able to be hidden, are invisible or easily hidden. Its mostly just shoulders, gloves, boots, weapons you can easily tell.
Adding customization is a core aspect of an RPG, something WoW needs.
You're saying you can't tell if someone is in tier 2 or 3?
I'm not saying you can't lik transmog, I'm saying I don't like it.
But it's very disputable that it's something WoW needs. Every version pre-transmog was more popular than every version since (maybe Legion is the exception). Classic was also more popular than recent retail versions. And Cata is going to be easily the least popular version of Classic. Of course, that's not transmog related only, there's so much more than that. But saying it's needed vs you like it is a bit of a stretch.
First off, just no. You can't tell if somebody is wearing full T2 or T3 just by looking at them. You can tell only really see shoulders, gloves, and maybe feet or legs. The chest can be covered by a tabard, wrist might as well not even have a model, helm/cloak can be toggled on and off. Rings, trinkets, neck are all just invisible. Its totally fine not to like it, its other to make up reason to dislike it.
Also Dragonflight is by far more popular than classic. Thats just goes to show how much shit your making up.
First off, you can't see the whole gear, same with transmog, but can have a pretty good idea of what someone has done, what kind of gear someone has.
Second off, I can dislike for whatever reason I want.
Third off, who hurt you?
Retail wow had 7million active subs before classic was ever announced. I'm pretty sure today we're at about 9million with retail and classic. You actually think classic is more popular than retail?
Yes, nothing better than three carbon copies of yourself in raid wearing the same gear you are.
Sure, 10 years ago this made sense. But now this is just an outdated take, old man
I'm not saying that my take has to be agreed with. I just never liked transmog, having played in basically every version of WoW since 2004. Do I have to like it?
Under my collections tab I have pages upon pages of plate transmog, but when I go to the guy I only see three or four items for each slot. What gives? Both my current toon and the toon that got all the gear are paladins.
From a pvp perspective it's nice to know if the person your opening on is full ilvl 200 naxx gear or full ilvl 277 icc gear. I personally don't care but it's only good reason I've ever seen for someone not liking it
Not OP but The *only* thing I’ve ever had an issue with transmog was in rated arenas. Not being able to see what people are wearing. It doesn’t matter much in a world where everyone is always in full pvp gear, but some seasons of some xpacs when some people can and do wear certain pieces of pve gear, or even just non-current season conquest gear, it really helps to be able to visually see that.
This was made worse when all casters got standardized mana pools in retail.
Aside from that, I don’t see how someone looking a certain way/transmog bothers people.
This. Id rather see what people are really wearing
This was actually one of the things (might sound dumb) that turned me away from the game all those years back
Funny how it takes it re releasing for me to experience. then the memories come back like a bad trip
The point is you wear a tabard for some time until you got the factions to exalted. During this time it would be cool to hide the tabard. It’s really not that difficult
Ya, but that's like 1% of the game right? So it's not a big deal. It only takes a handful of Heroics to get exalted with whatever faction you're tying to get.
Because unfortunately tabards offer tangible gameplay benefits like rep gains (guild tabard for increased guild rep, capital city tabards to increase rep for specific capital city, etc.)
They definitely need to fix tabard transmog. It only allows you to transmog your tabard if it is higher than white quality. And then you can only transmog to other green/blue/purple quality tabards. I have a ton of tabards unlocked from Outland and exalted reps. I want to mog them on alts but you can’t unless you have the tabard because of it being a white/common quality.
Man I'm still rocking the tabard of argent dawn from classic. Can't even transmog to/from it
Yeh im maining an alt that didn't get it in wotlk pre patch, really clean tabard I hope they let us xmog it
Yeah it's really nice. Black. Small detail. The argent dawn one from wotlk has such a big sun on it. It's so much worse
Play shadow priest or feral/boomy, save tons on xmog.
Bro I have the sickest drip on my troll feral druid, but can only use it when afk'ing in the city. It sucks man
The only reason why I hate shapeshift class. Like srsly imagine having the best tmogs for your druid only to run around as an obese chicken.
Just count the bear as a cool free transmog and you’re happy again
Just have to patiently wait until MOP, then boomie Druid will finally be (somewhat) able to use xmog.
I call it log-in screen fancy.
Time to play a rogue lmao
I'm in tank prison unfortunately
My condolences brother
Decked in full dungeon tier 2 and had to roll healer so I can show it
You should get an antibiotic if you have the sickest drip. It should clear that up in 2-3 days
I spend it all on noggenfoggers so i dont have to be a fucking bird. Last i checked i have drank around 5,5k noggenfoggers.
I was in a gnome-only guild and if you were playing with tree of life (that was on ascension), you *had* to drink a noggenfogger for the shrink effect to raid :D
Gone are the days of people doing ridiculous things regardless of meta
He was on private server wher any race can be anything.
Nobody's stopping you, just don't do it in a parse culture guild.
Gnome Mercy?
Exactly. Tbf I overexagerated for comedic effect, noggenfogger wasn't required, but encouraged for our trees.
Hey how do you see how many noggenfoggers you've used?
Statistics - > consumables. Should be something like most drank poti8n/elixir
Idk if it’s in prepatch, but on beta when I tried spriest there was a glyph that seriously tuned down the shadow form effect, so you can see your tmogs better
It is
Resto druids got shafted
How about saving transmog sets for easy switching 👀
woah calm down there sir, a common sense QoL improvement? please be serious
That is in the game now! (Unless I didn’t realize it was an addon doing it like the person below mentioned)
There are addons for this but I agree would be nice to be part of base
Are there any currently working for cata classic? I've been looking around the last week and can't find any. EDIT: Found one, that was just made 3 days ago. https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/transmogoutfitmanager
Hahaha I just went addon upgrading and finding 2 days ago guess didn't know how recent it was created just saw it listed
Uhh.. this has been in since wotlk?
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Hmm but you have to pay every time you change something. 200g to change sets doesn't sound appealing to me 😂
Sounds like you’re not committed to the drip
I'm still mad I can xmog warglaives on my demon hunter but my rogue who's had them for over 10 years can't do it because *class fantasy*
Wait, can we transmog legendaries in cataclysm?! I may be rethinking my game plan here lol
yes, they just enabled it. good luck seeing any weapon but thunderfury and shadowmourne in dalaran
Jokes on you! I have Shadowmourne and want to mog it into something really plain.
Sadly you can only mog something into a legendary, not the other way around.
Nevermind, uninstalling.
Eh at least that's only an issue for the next 2 weeks
Shadowmourne is such a snooze fest of a legendary.
It is very basic.
Only legendary that looks cool to me.
I have thinderfury, that's why I'm so excited! I mained a warrior tank and couldn't get the 2nd binding although we farmed MC for over 8 months. I finally finished it at the end of tbc when the guild was bored enough to run back to MC and try to finish it. It was bittersweet finishing it but then it just sat there in my bags. I'm so happy I can finally enjoy it since I wasn't allowed to in classic.
I ground MC for mogs last year and even taking 14 characters a week thru it took me about 8 or 9 months to get the second half on the same character. I had one half or the other on pretty much everyone. Only took about 3 months to make Sulfuras
Yeah blizzards system is fucky with binding drops and such. There were so many hugely successful guilds on our server who had multiple thunderfurys completed but for whatever reason we had me and then another guy line for the same binding. It got pretty demoralizing for us going in there week after week and getting nothing out of it because we had everything by then but we really wanted to finish one.
Yeah I was just grinding for transmogs and not for something w actual stat value like if I was in classic. It was still a PITA. I quit grinding UBRS for the Arcanite Champion pattern bc .2% drop is insane and it got old real fast, but I still gave it about 300 runs. Statistically another 200 runs and I should have it heh.
You have no taste if you actually tmorg shadowmourne, really ugly legendary. And the only people that tmorg TF are rogues and frost DK + prot paladin (which are both gonna be underrepresented in Cataclysm). I think you'll see a lot more hunters with the bow and casters with Valanyr!
Iirc bow starts to sheath on the back only in mop onwards, so you actually don't see many bow transmogs in the cities
Yeah, you're right I think - but you'll see them in raids!
Think I saw a warlock run past me with TF earlier
True actually. You can probably tmorg it for casters. Does not really feel like caster-esque but cool none the less.
I could see it being a shaman weapon if they could use swords. A weapon imbued with lightning seems like the perfect fit for ele and enhance. But yeah doesn't make much sense my warlock having thunderfury, but I like the sword and my other class uses 2h so it's my only class I can see it on lol
Casters are using TF.
Meanwhile, on day 1 of cata prepatch, I was a little disappointed that I couldn't mog my smourne into a vanilla epic to match my 60 fury bis mog set.
Eh so what...these weapons are awesome. Alternative is them collecting dust in the bank...I'm glad I'll be able for the first time ever to actually raid with Sulfuras without it being a complete meme lul.
So dumb they dont make the modern transmogging work on cata.
Making stuff work… what game are you playing brother? XD
this game is run on two toothpicks and a hamster wheel. keep praying
I can see some reasons for not allowing hiding nearly every slot or grey quality/joke items etc but some of the features absolutely should have been in.
Whitemane has no transmog boundaries at all.. Fuck you down voting me for lol
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🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 No whitemane ia the biggest cata pserver out there
You can transmog cloth into plate?
On the pservee? ye
Hrm not a fan of that
Me neither.
Idk, could make for some cool styles. Skyrim style plate mage or some monk paladin idk. Other way around should definitely be possible though IMO (mog plat to cloth) as plate users have been using leather and cloth all the time 'till now.
while at it, just give us the retail tmog system (hide shoulders, gloves...)
Add warglaives please
Let us mog the glaives puhleeez
I would also like to hide weapon enchantment. Landslide is ugly like shit flying off my weapon.
Honestly surprised we didn't see enchant transmogs/illusions or whaetver they're called. I can see why we didn't get a complete retail transmog system and I'm kind of glad since the world looks a lot less silly without people running around half naked and shit, but some of the features from retail absolutely should have been in.
If you're going to allow Legendary transmog... how about letting us transmog all the Legendaries lol
Damn, double thunderfury or thunderfury main hand + offhand warglaive on my rogue? Hard question.
Warglaives cannot be transmogged sadly
It’s super legendary + deluxe
That's stupid. Time for double TF then.
Try double TF on a gnome. It’s hilarious. On the back clipping thru the ground as you run. Or hold them out while you run and watch them wobble back and forth insanely
Don't worry, we just have to wait for Legion Classic and complete Black Temple Timewalking to transmog warglaives (only on Demon Hunters)
I just want to transmog my AB tabard.
Let us hide item slots too
Please allow warglaive xmog!!
More pitchforks!!
while they are at it, maybe remove some weapon type restriction for us casters. I don't like my dagger and I can only mogg it to other daggers, while melees can mogg their two handers into sword, axe and hammer. Sounds unfair
At the same time, let me unlock at least quest rewards as appearances, ATM you can only mog plate on pala it's fine... But let me unlock cloth etc from quests... For other characters
Exactly, I dislike 99% of the dagger looks and so many 1h swords are just sitting unusable in my interface.
I would just like my Transmogs to actually show up. I had full T6, never showed up in the tab but for some reason other random raid items that I have not had in my inventory since 2019 do.
Can we have our Rank 14 transmog before everyone gets it from rated battlegrounds?
If we have transmog in cata then at least go all the way with it. Applying gray and white items, dungeon loot table for old expansions like in retail. Right now we have to use atlas and it’s still not updated (beside temporary fix).
Agreed, I haven't worn tabards since WoW Classic began. It looks like a painted potato sack covering the armor. As soon as I hit exalted with my guild, I'm vendoring it.
Why did they introduce such a half baked transmog system? Why not just go for the full retail one, makes zero sense. Let us mog our tabards, let us hide shit. It's so weird how they've done it.
Please implement ability to hide everything akin to retail.
Remove limitations on xmog, don't cut drop chances on old raid mounts, allow people to enter old Naxx again, and allow people to enter old ZG again just like old Ony. I don't see the point in punishing people who, for whatever reason, couldn't get those items when they were "easily" obtained.
Transmog is one of the things that broke WoW for me. You used to look at someone and immediately know how strong the character is. Transmog makes everything bland.
Nobody looks at a character, and I’m the middle of playing deciphers what each individual piece they are wearing it and uses that to tell how strong someone is. This is just bs. If you want to know how strong someone might be, you just look at their healthbar.
I get what you mean, and especially back during OG WoW I feel like seeing the cool gear folks "earned" had a lot of value because it wasn't super common but imo this immediately broke down in Classic with how easy all the content was and once GDKPs got involved, forget about it, gear has negative prestige at this point
I still found it nice to see people with recognizable gear, even if they are more common. I made it to gold cap flipping transmog gear in WoD, but never transmogged my gear, always preferred to see how I looked with the gear I was actually wearing.
Totally agree that it makes how people look pretty meaningless, but it's still fun to make *your* character look how you want it to look. If you like the new gear or want to show off how strong you are, you can decide to not transmog and show off your Heroic Tier.
It was a litmus test of feral druids.
Expect thats just false. You literally can't do that. Half the items in game are either able to be hidden, are invisible or easily hidden. Its mostly just shoulders, gloves, boots, weapons you can easily tell. Adding customization is a core aspect of an RPG, something WoW needs.
You're saying you can't tell if someone is in tier 2 or 3? I'm not saying you can't lik transmog, I'm saying I don't like it. But it's very disputable that it's something WoW needs. Every version pre-transmog was more popular than every version since (maybe Legion is the exception). Classic was also more popular than recent retail versions. And Cata is going to be easily the least popular version of Classic. Of course, that's not transmog related only, there's so much more than that. But saying it's needed vs you like it is a bit of a stretch.
First off, just no. You can't tell if somebody is wearing full T2 or T3 just by looking at them. You can tell only really see shoulders, gloves, and maybe feet or legs. The chest can be covered by a tabard, wrist might as well not even have a model, helm/cloak can be toggled on and off. Rings, trinkets, neck are all just invisible. Its totally fine not to like it, its other to make up reason to dislike it. Also Dragonflight is by far more popular than classic. Thats just goes to show how much shit your making up.
First off, you can't see the whole gear, same with transmog, but can have a pretty good idea of what someone has done, what kind of gear someone has. Second off, I can dislike for whatever reason I want. Third off, who hurt you?
Retail wow had 7million active subs before classic was ever announced. I'm pretty sure today we're at about 9million with retail and classic. You actually think classic is more popular than retail?
Yes, nothing better than three carbon copies of yourself in raid wearing the same gear you are. Sure, 10 years ago this made sense. But now this is just an outdated take, old man
I'm not saying that my take has to be agreed with. I just never liked transmog, having played in basically every version of WoW since 2004. Do I have to like it?
I don't think he meant to offend you. No need to get angry and lash out.
I would say 20 years ago not 10.
Tabards were moggable for the first like, five hours of prepatch, then they turned it off for some reason.
maybe something to indicate we know an appearance already would be amazing
let me hide everything instead
Bring the rank14 replicas already!
Under my collections tab I have pages upon pages of plate transmog, but when I go to the guy I only see three or four items for each slot. What gives? Both my current toon and the toon that got all the gear are paladins.
Wheres that warlock that won ashbringer
I wish we could swap between long tabard version and short tabard version (the one that auto happens when you have a robe) on the fly
Hide tabard and remove the green or higher quality restriction from tabards. (Or at least let my argent dawn tabard be a green)
and add warglaives god damnit
I want to transmog my white quality tabards, hello? gief AB tabard!
And sets! I want to see what sets I've collected!
How can they NOT add Warglaves???
I wish they wouldve just put the retail tmog system in would love to transmog each shoulder individually or hide items
Just take your tabard off??
Please just give me an option to OPT OUT from looking at peoples stupid transmogs. Worst feature of the expansion by far.
honestly this is a really cool idea, don't see why they wouldn't do it (unless it'd take way too many resources, aka any resources)
Yes. It hurts literally on one (because they don't know we can't see their epeen flex) and benefits so many that don't like the feature.
How does it actually affect you?
As in I can not avoid it. I wan't to see the actual gear they are wearing, not something imaginary.
I guess I'm just wondering why that would matter to you
From a pvp perspective it's nice to know if the person your opening on is full ilvl 200 naxx gear or full ilvl 277 icc gear. I personally don't care but it's only good reason I've ever seen for someone not liking it
Not OP but The *only* thing I’ve ever had an issue with transmog was in rated arenas. Not being able to see what people are wearing. It doesn’t matter much in a world where everyone is always in full pvp gear, but some seasons of some xpacs when some people can and do wear certain pieces of pve gear, or even just non-current season conquest gear, it really helps to be able to visually see that. This was made worse when all casters got standardized mana pools in retail. Aside from that, I don’t see how someone looking a certain way/transmog bothers people.
takes away from world immersion
I wasn’t aware people played cata classic for world immersion. Vanilla? Sure. Cata? lol.
Even vanilla wasn't very immersive. Actually if anything, transmog is more immersive. Everybody has unique gear and doesn't look like a clone.
This. Id rather see what people are really wearing This was actually one of the things (might sound dumb) that turned me away from the game all those years back Funny how it takes it re releasing for me to experience. then the memories come back like a bad trip
Great so I can mog a legendary but I can't mog my r11 PvP gear?
Can we also allow plate to be xmog to mail? I just want my crown of destruction back
imagine not wearing scarlet crusade tabard 24/7
Unequip it, easy fix for that
but but rep?
That's a point but if u're exalted u don't need it anymore.
that's a really dumb point tbf
Why?
The point is you wear a tabard for some time until you got the factions to exalted. During this time it would be cool to hide the tabard. It’s really not that difficult
Ya, but that's like 1% of the game right? So it's not a big deal. It only takes a handful of Heroics to get exalted with whatever faction you're tying to get.
Seeing a discussion about transmogs on the classic subreddit disgusts me to my core.
no u
You wear a stupid tabard?
Gotta get that rep, brother!
Damnit this man is right
Transmogs sucks 🤣
Why not just unequip tabard?
Because unfortunately tabards offer tangible gameplay benefits like rep gains (guild tabard for increased guild rep, capital city tabards to increase rep for specific capital city, etc.)
Or just don't wear one? If I recall correctly tabards were used for rep grinding. Use it while grinding and take off otherwise?