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SS: As more and more data comes in, what scientists have been warning about from the early days of 2020 is starting to happen. Long COVID rates are rising, and at current rates of infection the expert the article is covering believes it will affect every American. Read that again - *every American*. Collapse-related because 'let 'er rip' was always a strategy of death and mass disability, and can only hasten our demise as the dominant species of the planet.
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Since I had what I believe to be covid 2 years ago, my cognition hasn't been the same. I seriously thought I had some rare early onset dementia or had a stroke whilst I was sleeping. I have terrible memory and general brain fog. I can barely function as my brain just can't work properly. I'm 33.
> and general brain fog
I have a co-worker that was struggling. My boss asked me to mentor them.
After a while I told my boss that the person had a general understanding of the work, but they seemed to have some cognitive issue that I felt was beyond my ability to mentor.
I recall specifically saying, "They make mistakes that I would make if I tried to do this work after staying awake for 30 hours."
I found out later they had been hospitalized earlier that year for COVID.
It hits working memory pretty hard. Going from being able to keep 20 parallel things in your head to 1 or 2 is hugely debilitating even though you don’t technically know less than you used to before long covid.
Yep yep. My memory used to be incredible. Could remember very specific things like verbatim dialogue, time, place etc. I had the mental receipts. Now I seem to immediately forget certain things. If I’m told a story I might need a recap even minutes later. My sister will reference something that was said or done and I don’t even recall it happening in the first place
That's exactly how I feel right now. I feel that's its killing my long term career potential just now that it was starting to really take off before I got hit hard with covid.
I had covid very early on before it was classified as a pandemic. Cognition issues have hit me hard. Dyslexia, stuttering, memory issues, slow to think of the right words or string thoughts together. I used to be very snappy with responses, good with vocabulary. Fast with speech and comprehension.
I feel like an old man now. I'm 38. These are far from the only issues covid left me with that are already making life a struggle and will get worse with time. No help is coming. No support. No bolstered safety nets or societal coming together.
Im fucked because we're all fucked because we all don't give a fuck about anyone, not even ourselves.
Same. On most of those things. I'm 33. We didn't even know what it was the first time I caught it, and the media tried to claim it was impossible, but i've never been that sick in my life and the news came out about the first US cases the same week. It took MONTHS for me to get back to 75% and the next two years to hit 80+. I caught it again last year and I'm back to around 60% capacity most of the time. sometimes more sometimes less.
Exactly what happened to me as well. I spent thousands of dollars in copays and went through so many tests, yet nothing came of it. I finally gave up and just trudge along as best I can. It definitely sucks! :(
Exactly all of those things for me as well. Like I get to the ends of sentences and have to stop because I can't think of the right word which would have never happened to me before.
Developed an infrequent and mild stutter after never having a stutter at any point in life before. My memory was never particularly great, but sometimes thing go in one ear and out the other when it should be information I should easily retain.
The speech thing is what's fucking me up. I used to be an eloquent and fluent speaker but now I struggle to find the right words. It's a bummer and I feel very isolated because it's so difficult for me to verbally communicate
I keep selecting the sorta right word, but not quite. For example, saying respectability when I meant responsibility. Or yeah, stop halfway in my sentence, completely forgetting how I wanted to end it.
I had pretty bad pneumonia back in December and developed brain fog issues around early February. Taking magnesium L-Theron has helped a lot.
I tried lexapro for a bit but I found it was making me very impulsive and stopped. However, it’s calming effects definitely had a huge impact on the brain fog as well.
Ultimately I’ve landed in CBD and CBDA really being helpful. What I think is happening is some sort of brain inflammation caused by stress and the brain/gut connection. I don’t know that’s just what has been helping me. I’ve always been a jittery person but I never thought of myself as, like, nervous. That was always just my baseline.
My doctor thinks I might have something called hyperstimulation, where basically my body gets locked into a stress response a day or two after I have a stressful event, but I need to be diagnosed by a specialist.
I’m in my 40’s now and I suppose I just can’t tank stress like I used to, especially after battling a severe illness.
But between CBD, lexapro for a day or two (if I need it), magnesium, trying to take up meditation, and sleeping better, my brain fog issues have definitely improved. I don’t know if any of that will help you guys. It’s what has helped me with the brain fog stuff at least. It’s absolute hell when you don’t know what it is or how to manage it.
Unchecked stress and anxiety (or more accurately not addressing the things that caused them) kind of ruined my life.
I should have made some hard decisions to avoid that outcome, but once you’re in it decision quality can drop off rapidly.
Nope. My hope is that the brain will repair itself over a few years time. That plus drugs to speed up thinking, like adhd meds are going to become crucial for normal function.
Similar, I started taking Omega 3s and SPMs (Specialised Pro-resolving Mediators, which is what our body's turn omega 3s into) and my brain started to feel sharper again.
I developed epilepsy. I don't know if I had COVID, I rarely get sick sick, but it does cross my mind that I could have had a really silent case of COVID that just affected my brain. I work with a high risk population in a hospital and had several confirmed cases.
Um, this isn't a recommendation for everyone and I'm not a health professional or anything. But there was a study that showed that shrooms(psilocybin) could help with brain fog and long COVID symptoms. It's a case study btw, so not too many people were studied regarding this. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ccr3.8791
This is super interesting. I have crohns and have been learning a bit about research into psychedelics and auto-immune diseases, so it makes sense that it could also help people with long covid. An example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3T0Joue0NI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3T0Joue0NI)
Or like eat greens and lower fat diet. I’m serious.
I talk about it here:
* https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1c0dqcu/why_are_so_many_young_people_getting_cancer/kywl1lc/
But the long and short of it is, standard American diets starve the body of oxygen 24/7…. You get away from it eating more unprocessed plants…
And eating specific greens, high in nitrates, dilates blood vessels adding oxygen.
* https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/nitrates/#:~:text=Certain%20vegetables%20contain%20nitrates%2C%20which,risk%20of%20high%20blood%20pressure.
* https://nutritionfacts.org/video/oxygenating-blood-with-nitrate-rich-vegetables/
* https://nutritionfacts.org/video/whole-beets-vs-juice-for-improving-athletic-performance/
Veggies by nitrate count:
* https://nutritionfacts.org/video/vegetables-rate-by-nitrate/
Anyway, just a cheap alternative that I think will help.
This guy forces everything into a video so here's the ranking of vegetables by nitrate count:
* Beets 110
* Swiss Chard 151
* Oak Leaf Lettuce 155
* Beet Greens 177
* Basil 183
* Spring Greens 188
* Butterleaf Lettuce 200
* Cilantro 247
* Rhubarb 281
* Arugula 480
* (Beet Juice 279)
Same. Ever since 2021 I don't even feel like the same person. My cognitive abilities were what I took pride in. I'm barely functioning at half of my previous capacity, and every activity I used to enjoy I can barely participate in because my mind just jams up.
I call it dry rot of the brain. Many times when I try to grasp a thought in my head it feels like it just crumbles away into dust like a dry rotted piece of wood
One of my favorite words that I learned since 2020 is **syncytia**.
SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral fusogens cause neuronal and glial fusion that compromises neuronal activity [https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248)
>Numerous viruses use specialized surface molecules called fusogens to enter host cells. Many of these viruses, including the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), can infect the brain and are associated with severe neurological symptoms through poorly understood mechanisms. We show that SARS-CoV-2 infection induces fusion between neurons and between neurons and glia in mouse and human brain organoids. We reveal that this is caused by the viral fusogen, as it is fully mimicked by the expression of the SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) protein or the unrelated fusogen p15 from the baboon orthoreovirus. We demonstrate that neuronal fusion is a progressive event, leads to the formation of multicellular syncytia, and causes the spread of large molecules and organelles. Last, using Ca^(2+) imaging, we show that fusion severely compromises neuronal activity. These results provide mechanistic insights into how SARS-CoV-2 and other viruses affect the nervous system, alter its function, and cause neuropathology.
OMG! so glad u posted this. Im OLD! (I hate the word boomer!) my bro got this before me - spent Chinese NY in SF with his GF before covid was on the radar. He ended up taking experimental steroids to help him, hasnt fully recovered in yrs now. Me, no ins and worked thru this disease on my own. Was sick for months, and now for the last few yrs there are days I cant walk due to the pain that travels thru my body, esp the left side spine to foot. Taking herbals (no pain meds except that), they help. Everyone just says its old age, but I know its not. This is hell. Now I see its neuropathy.
Everyone young posting here, (everyone, really) if there's a shot they can give you for bird flu - take it! (I did get covid shots but after I was so sick - that was the soonest they were available to me). Avian flu is no joke either, if youre already weakened by covid Im afraid of what could happen to you. Dont think there is anyone out there looking out for you. Dont get caught up in the GD media crap over it being not so bad. ITS BAD! wear a mask, wash hands etc, get any shots they offer. (my g-ma lived thru the 1918 flu, it was a horror and all they could do back then was wear a face cover, wash hands and stay away from others), Avian flu on top of long covid could destroy you.
Same here. I’m 30. When I had it, my fever was so high I thought my brain would melt and it just hasn’t been the same since. I have a Master’s degree and I’m forgetting words, things I’ve studied, things I’ve experienced, etc. And it’s like there’s no longer the filter of reason between me and the depression and anxiety. There are times where I get faint out of nowhere and it feels like my body suddenly just stops functioning the way it used to and I’m always at least a little tired. I’ve seen doctors and tried explaining it but don’t get taken seriously, so I keep hoping it’s just a matter of retraining my body… 😕
Covid has been shown to lower IQ by 2-3 points. While it doesn’t sound like much, spread across the population its significant. And it’s only been 4 years, we still don’t know the long term impact of it yet.
This time last year this was really bad for me. I was on autopilot 100% and felt so slow. I got paranoid about mold, got my house tested and stayed elsewhere for a long time to be safe. Haven't really noticed much of a difference.
That being said, I do think having had covid can make us more sensitive to things in our environment we may not have reacted to previously.
I don't know for sure if having COVID twice (and twice more very lightly from the vaccines) has affected me or not. It feels sometimes like I'm stupider than I was 10 years ago. Like I struggle to learn or remember new things, like I'm less creative in general, like it takes me a lot longer to come up with solutions to problems, like I have less ability to cope with adversity and get up and do things.
It feels like the way children are really good at retaining knowledge, and then that ability disappears in early adulthood. It's as if that has happened to me, again, between the ages of \~25-35. Maybe that's normal. It's extremely difficult to quantify. But I often find myself struggling to, say, learn the mechanics of a new videogame or forgetting it a week later; and I ask myself "would the me from 2014 been this bad?"
☝️ This!!! Had it for the first time that I know of about 3 months ago, and still struggling with taste and smell, it's not the same. And massive fatigue and working memory, which was bad already.
Wishing you well. ❤️
Same here! But because Covid made my ADHD so unmanageable and I sought help, I was diagnosed with autism as well (I’m a girl, wasn’t assessed for autism because of that) and long covid. So it was a blessing in a way.
I thought I was having a mental breakdown because of university and relationship stress. I’d had Covid and couldn’t smell anything for 4 months, but then started having phantom smells (bad ones) which combined with sleep deprivation, stress, my adhd symptoms were off the charts which was making me even more stressed as deadlines approached. I sought help, and over a few sessions she asked me if I’d been assessed for autism and then that journey began.
I have physical health issues (endometriosis & related comorbidities) so the brain fog was normal, but is now significantly worse. I take some supplements to try manage this (neurobion, magnesium, sceletium, mushrooms)
Certain mushrooms, have been showing promising results. I had long covid as well, And I found Lions mane, Rishi and other fun mushrooms dramatically increased my brain function back to near normal over a 2 year period...
Psilocybin fundamentally changes my mind for 6 months to a year after a single session. Without it I'm depressed and want to die half the time. With it and it's like I still have the bad thoughts from time to time but rather than feeling them and being dragged down I just acknowledge them and then sort of subconsciously analyse them to work out where they're coming from. I feel like I'm in a sort of permanent state of being happy to continue to live and keep doing things but being perfectly fine dying at any time. If I wake up tomorrow, fine I'll keep working on my projects but if there's no tomorrow that's fine too. I find it quite a positive and productive mindset to have whilst the world is so broken and continuing to get worse.
Ever since the first few times I took mushrooms I can see a swirling vortex of colour when I close my eyes if I've smoked weed or even just CBD and have mild closed eye visuals when I focus on it. I don't recall ever seeing that on weed before I took mushrooms. I don't know if it's just part of the aging process or if it's due to the mushrooms but I regularly have random memories come up seemingly from nowhere and can recall situations from childhood quite vividly. It often feels like my life is flashing before my eyes but just very slower over years rather than all at once. Usually positive, happy memories but when they're unpleasant, bad or awkward they don't really bother me. Whereas I used to just dwell on all the awkward stuff.
I cook with lion's mane regularly and have reishi or cordyceps in tea every now and then but don't notice much of anything as a result. I do think every meal is improved by the addition of lion's mane though.
God if I could try psilocybin that would great. Too bad it’s just impossible for me to find and I’m not crazy about growing mushrooms on my own. Do it wrong or eat the wrong type and you get straight poison yourself.
Growing them is easy. Spores are legal in most places so can be bought online. There's not really anything dangerously toxic with black spores that resembles the most commonly foraged psilocybin containing species, though I've never found any in the wild other than the odd Panaeolus in a plant pot.
Let me preface this by saying the following: 'mushrooms' make me nauseas in any quantity. I don't like tripping and I don't want to. I am not receptive to it.
THEY WORK. I had someone that knows how it all works make me some capsules of raw mushroom, weighed to 250mg per. I took 1 per morning for 4 days in a row. never tripped. ALWAYS felt yucky in my tummy for about an hour then felt great.
I have not done them since (2.5yrs now) and the fog they pulled me out of was like being pulled out of a tunnel into the light.
(I'm told the reason I get sick is my body reacts poorly to processing the chitin from the mushroom husk and supposedly would have had a better time using processed edibles from a legal state)
I hope this doesn't get deleted or banned. Don't anyone do anything stupid. I just wanted to share my experience.
Making tea from them can reduce nausea since you're extracting the active compounds into the hot water whilst leaving behind most of the chitin in the solids. Lemon TEK or putting them in orange juice can help too and may increase the potency a little by virtue of reducing the time they take to hit.
I seem to have an extremely low tolerance such that I can get trips way more intense than should be possible from just 1g or less. ie. I've had the effects most people and guides describe from 3-4g on 0.8-1.2g so I don't really want to go much higher. I have no idea how people take them around friends or before watching a movie because I pretty much have to just lie down in the dark as the visuals become too overwhelming and the thoughts too introspective.
Completely fixed my depression but I do always have a pretty strong feeling like I've been poisoned that I find hard to deal with. Not nausea so much as a general unease in my whole body. I'm trying to microdose at the moment but accidently started mildly tripping on just 0.25g in 1 litre of tea the other day such that I had to stop what I was doing and lie down. 0.1g seems to be alright.
I think the most important thing is to start lower than most people suggest. I see way too many people recommending ridiculously high doses to people for a first time.
> I'm trying to microdose at the moment but accidently started mildly tripping
You're supposed to find your smallest psychoactive dose and then take *one eighth* of that. 0.1 is still too much.
Well, I stopped taking my supplements
( also bought lions mane grow kits) (PSA, ALWAYS COOK MUSHROOMS, you can get violently sick if you don't)
and my mental clarity has not worsened, So it appears to be permanent. I'd recommend giving lions mane a shot, Do your research, a lot of the supplements are shotty, which is why I preferred the grow kits as it was a better bang for the buck.
Lion's mane is very easy to grow. If you want to continue using it long term I'd recommend investing in a stove top pressure cooker for sterilising your own substrate. It will work out much cheaper in the long term and give you more self sufficiency since you can then turn inedible wood and plant material into mushrooms.
Brain fog in waves was already a thing for me but I managed, after Covid the fog was worse. Also a much lower threshold for overstimulation especially with noise and touch. ADHD meds have been helping but mostly just get me back to where I was more than anything.
I think of polio.
In the 1950s, effective vaccines were introduced, leading to a drastic decline in cases in the US. If you look at a graph, polio cases effectively flatline soon after 1960. The last cases of wild polio in the US was in the late 1970s.
It too until the 1980s for the medical community to recognize post polio syndrome - a condition that occurs many years after infection due to damage polio did to the body.
We literally didn't understand the health risks of polio until after it was extinct in the US.
Oh, and the symptoms of post polio? A progression of muscle atrophy, that starts to show symptoms about 15-30 years after the initial polio infection. It's still poorly understood, but the thinking is that the initial disease prematurely ages some cells, causing them to fail later on.
It may be that covid will have a similar effect. We still don't understand all the effects of covid or how it attacks the body, and modern medicine still has plenty of unknowns.
Now imagine if enough people get long covid that we can no longer fill those jobs at all-what do you think that will do to society? (I'm asking this as a rhetorical question, not as an accusation.) I don't think enough people truly appreciate how devastating that would be and how easily society could completely fall apart if enough people get debilitating long covid that prevents them from being able to perform certain jobs (or in some cases, prevents them from being able to work altogether.)
And in the context of climate change, we need society as a whole to act against its immediate pleasure and in favour of short-term pain to save society in the long-run. So people are getting dumber as we meed them to pack very difficult decisions based on highly complex issues.
I would have had to leave too if my symptoms had continued.
I didn't know about mushrooms or anything at that time, so I just started doing basic mental maths. Multiplication tables - upto 10 was easy, then 11-20, then 21-30. Random factorials, LCMs, HCFs, all basic school maths but it helped a lot to bring my mind back over a few weeks/months.
To be fair, maths was always my favourite in school.
I still wear a KN95 indoors, which is extremely unusual in my state. I don’t really care that people think I’m weird, I’ve been keeping up with the published research and I absolutely do not want long COVID. I’m not in a position where I can stop working and survive.
For me it's not even being able to survive in the financial sense. I don't think I want to live a life where I'm bedridden and can't do anything, even if I got disability benefits. What would the point even be? I've been lurking long hauler subs and it sounds absolutely miserable, and trust them when they say they wouldn't wish LC on anyone.
And that's exactly why I still wear a mask. I don't think I will stop anytime soon either seeing I got sick 4 times despite wearing one this winter.
Yep. I regularly congratulate (unmasked) individuals who hassle me on their extensive sick leave pay.
Then I say I'd love to mooch off the company and milk sick pay, but I'm self employed.
Then I ask if they're volunteering to fund my sick pay.
It works real well with the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" crowd. They hate being associated with laziness and milking the system.
What I'm still extremely upset about is the overwhelming acceptance of reduced death rates being considered the benchmark for success or policy changes.
That is not an acceptable line in the sand, and I refuse to let others make the decision for me that because there is a reduced chance of dying that things are okay! There are a plethora of life debilitating ramifications that I do not want to risk contacting, and as a person with feewill and autonomy I will not let my peers impose their ignorant perspective upon my person.
God help me I cannot stress this enough.
I hate that I can relate to this issue but I've felt this way ever since it was proven just how false the whole "We're in this together." shit really was. I don't want to be a cynic and give up all faith in humanity but man, it's fucking hard when people act the way they do now.
It has worked very well in most of us in that sense.
Whether it was intended as a weapon of social manipulation and control or not, that is what it was, and continues to be, after it went pandemic.
The dumbing, weakening, and socially-fracturing effects were, and are, very clearly realized and harnessed very early on… if not long before. (I find the dismantling of the Pandemic Response Unit by the Trump White House in 2018 to be a highly suspicious source of smoke for this fiery conspiracy theory.)
Drs are no better. Have a look through the r/covidlonghaulers sub to see the way drs treat the chronically ill, or see that they no longer mask for oncology patients, or spread misinformation. Or see not a single for masked Dr at conferences, even long covid researchers. Drs absolutely don’t get it either. It’s a wild time to be alive.
If we'd truly listened to economists, we'd probably have run a CBA and found out that the potential drain on productivity merited greater health investment.
Don't lump economists in with businessmen and autocrats, those people just do what lets them maintain the status quo.
Listen, I hate how financial economists have a stranglehold on the field as much as the next guy, but things like health economics and environmental economics exist. They're just not paid well or given much attention because of capitalists.
People conflate economist with capitalist because we live in a capitalist economy. They forget that other forms of economy exist and most economists would prefer we move to a more efficient, sustainable economic model.
Economists are probably the most aware of how flawed capitalism is as an economic model.
I listened to doctors and never caught covid. I avoided crowds. Didn't fly in a tube. Wore a mask. Got my shots. Stayed out of the stores and crowds at Christmas. Edited to add I'm old and retired so it was not difficult to avoid crowds etc. At my age it could have been a death sentence or debilitating so I hibernated since the adult kids seem to want me to live longer. A few neck beards would give me dirty looks for even wearing a mask when I did go out.
Good for you, some of us were stuck selling toilet paper to privileged people like you (who also harassed us infinitely worse than normal) in March 2020 while our employers denied us basic human rights, and we had no choice but to be exposed to a deadly & debilitating virus.
Actually, we did have a choice - that, or starve/be homeless/lose health insurance/etc.
Wish I was as privileged as you seem to think I am it was. I'm old and retired so I was able to stay home and avoid crowds. I felt terrible for the store clerks and the azzholes who emerged during the pandemic hassling them. Alot of people like myself felt bad for the clerks. Rednecks even glared at me for wearing a mask when I did go to the store. 😱
Are you testing weekly? Since the start of the pandemic? Cuz if you haven't been, all you know is that you haven't had symptomatic Covid yet. I know plenty of people (including my husband and best friend) who got fully asymptomatic Covid.
Which seems to be able to fuck people up as much as the symptomatic type over time.
Well yeah of course they did it would have caused an economic world collapse.
Sure we might need that but if that happens kiss the third world goodbye.
This is globalism.
Covid didn’t give me symptoms. But my immune system went to shit. Next sickness came around and stuck for months. Months. I never got better. I have a lung disease now. I can also only work 2 days a week compared to my 3 days a week late 2020/early 2021. Well more accurately, I made it 6 months at 3 days a week before my disability couldn’t handle it. Come 2024 I got a job again and managed 2 months at 3 days before I couldn’t handle it. My fibromyalgia is accumulative. But my overall health
And ability to function I so much worse compared to pre covid. Fibro doesn’t do that. Not like this. I’ve had fibro get so bad I can barely leave my bed for months. But this isn’t it
One do the big changes I see out and about in the world is more people understanding symptoms of my illness. Brain fog being one. Fatigue another. It just seems like so many more people experience these things now. My co workers do. Before COVID? Nope.
The scientific community doesn’t have a great track record of treating people humanely. I don’t agree with it, just pointing out why the mistrust even exists.
SS: As more and more data comes in, what scientists have been warning about from the early days of 2020 is starting to happen. Long COVID rates are rising, and at current rates of infection the expert the article is covering believes it will affect every American. Read that again - *every American*. Collapse-related because 'let 'er rip' was always a strategy of death and mass disability, and can only hasten our demise as the dominant species of the planet.
I’m lucky because I never got Covid that I’m aware of, but despite my cognitive functions being no worse than before, I feel like Covid somehow shattered my worldview, and nothing is the same anymore.
Had to look up that word, but yeah it’s something like that. It’s as though in the past “the world” and “society” seemed like positive, life-affirming things that I longed to be part of, and now I have trouble believing in them, sometimes it all feels so hollow…
This Chinese Consultant nailed it years ago.
"[A Chinese business consultant in a Ted-style talk justified zero-Covid policy by saying that in 10 years the West will be brought to its knees b/c long-Covid](https://x.com/YanzhongHuang/status/1586537964267798530), which will decimate most of its labor force."
Sigh, this is what you get when Republicans win elections. The article states:
"The danger is clear and present: COVID isn’t merely a respiratory illness; it’s a multi-dimensional threat impacting [brain function](https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/does-covid-19-damage-the-brain), attacking [almost all of the body’s organs](https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/27756/long-term-health-effects-of-covid-19-disability-and-function), producing [elevated risks of all kinds](https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2022/46/more-proof-covid-is-a-multi-system-cluster-bomb/), and [weakening our ability to fight off other diseases](https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/Documents/nCoV/voc/2022/07/evidence-brief-ba4-ba5-risk-assessment-jul-8.pdf?sc_lang=en). Reinfections are thought to produce [cumulative risks](https://time.com/6232103/covid-19-reinfections-effects/), and Long COVID is on the rise. Unfortunately, Long COVID is now being considered a [long-term chronic illness](https://www.statnews.com/2024/06/06/long-covid-disability-national-academy-of-sciences/) — something many people will never fully recover from."
OK, the fact that Covid wasn't a "respiratory illness" was known almost immediately.
In the first batch of autopsies in NYC in 2020. The pathologists found "micro-clotting" in every organ of the body including the BRAIN.
[What dozens of Covid-19 patient autopsies have revealed about the disease](https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/14/covid-autopsies)
**Blood clots ‘in almost every organ’**
Micro-clotting in the brain is another way of describing a stroke.
Covid presents like an respiratory virus. People think of it as being "like a cold". It's not, Covid is more like an infection of the blood. It uses the circulatory system to spread through the body and can attack/damage almost every organ in the body.
[COVID-19 Is a Vascular Disease: Coronavirus’ Spike Protein Attacks Vascular System on a Cellular Level](https://scitechdaily.com/covid-19-is-a-vascular-disease-coronavirus-spike-protein-attacks-vascular-system-on-a-cellular-level/)
Including your brain.
People have had "psychotic breaks" as a result of "mild Covid infections". People have had personality shifts after Covid infections. People have become unable to remember how to do their jobs after a Covid infection.
[Anxiety, depression and strokes can occur after infection, leaving experts to determine how the virus affects the brain.](https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-brain-coronavirus-symptom-stroke-anxiety-depression?utm_source=Latest_Headlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest_Headlines)
[Mild COVID Linked to Brain Damage: What That Means for You](https://www.cognitivefxusa.com/blog/mild-covid-linked-to-brain-damage)
[Study shows COVID leaves brain injury markers in blood](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/study-shows-covid-leaves-brain-injury-markers-blood)
All things that can also happen from strokes or brain damage. Just a few months ago I saw a paper equating a "Moderate case of Covid" with a moderate TBI or "Traumatic Brain Injury".
It was OBVIOUS from Day 1 what was going to happen. However, instead of a rational response we got the "Republican Response".
Protect the ECONOMY at ANY COST so TRUMP can get Reelected.
Remember how much the "Swedish Model" was talked up by Republicans?
Republican "science" emphasizes the idea that novel viruses attenuate and become less virulent over time. So, if a generation gets damaged that's OK because the virus will get less harmful over time AND you don't have to spend a dime fighting it.
It's"Nature's Way".
I’d always considered it to be more of a circulatory illness, the anecdotes coming out at the time certainly were pointing that way; also, some of the studies were showing it to be airborne despite what the government was saying at the time. I believe it was mostly due to a misunderstanding of old TB data that led to the insistence that Covid “could not” be airborne and I remember there being a radio piece that covered the discovery.
Sources: my dad a cardiologist and the time/willingness to look at underlying data.
This was my analysis on July 3rd 2020. I wrote it as a "six month" milestone of the pandemic.
This is Going to be Bad - 08
[https://smokingtyger.medium.com/this-is-going-to-be-bad-ep-08-8e4cf9ffc2e4?sk=e1c8e62140a7458b46c1efd3bb89e064](https://smokingtyger.medium.com/this-is-going-to-be-bad-ep-08-8e4cf9ffc2e4?sk=e1c8e62140a7458b46c1efd3bb89e064)
I stated:
"Everyone who is exposed enough to C-19 will get infected.The only way to not get infected is to minimize your exposure to the virus."
**It’s a Highly Infectious, easily Transmissible Virus**
The earliest case studies out of China have shown that C-19 is highly infectious in enclosed spaces. There was the bus case, the restaurant case, and the call center case.
All of which indicated that a single infected individual could easily spread the virus to multiple people, without direct face to face contact, in an enclosed indoor environment.
Multiple studies of superspreader incidents in the US and Europe have confirmed this.
While there was a great deal of concern about the virus’s ability to spread on contaminated surfaces. What we have learned is that the primary vector of transmission is small aerosolized particles that individuals exhale through breathing.
Although you can get C-19 from a contaminated surface the most likely route of infection is breathing contaminated air.
**It’s a “Stealthy” Virus**
From the beginning we have known that for each “serious” infection there were many other asymptomatic or mild infections.
The earliest population study from the Italian village of Vo, proved the existence of asymptomatic infections -- Suppression of a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak in the Italian municipality of Vo.
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2488-1](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2488-1)
Accumulating evidence suggests that the ratio of asymptomatic and mild infections to “serious” infections is about 80/20. Only about one out of five C-19 infections will require medical attention or hospitalization.
The idea that if you don’t feel sick you are not infectious is wrong. Most of the people who get C-19 will never feel “sick”. They are still infectious and can spread the virus though.
Even for those who develop a serious illness, there is a “presymptomatic” period which can range from several days to several weeks. During this period, they will not “feel sick” but they are infectious.
Basically, everyone who gets infected can become infectious in about three days whether they have any symptoms or not.
Temperature checks for fever aren’t a reliable screen for infection. Many of the infected never have a high fever. If you think entry into an area is “safe” because they are taking people’s temperatures, you are wrong. There is no reliable way to know if someone without obvious illness is infected.
It's not just Republicans. Democrats fail to address or even acknowledge this in any way. Even much of the medical community fails to. This is a catastrophic societal failing at all levels.
It's hard to fight a pandemic when you are in the middle of a "cold civil war". January 6th 2021 was a coup attempt. The Trumpublicans are making noises like they want to try again.
The Democrats only "loosely" control some of the Agencies. DHS, ICE, and CBP are all Trumpist strongholds. FBI is mixed with some states weaponized by Trumpublicans (they zealously investigate Democrats only). DOJ is also mixed and at war with itself.
The CDC is a feeble shell that's lost most of its credibility and the Supreme Court has 2 members who could be implicated for conspiracy around J6.
After J6, over 1,200 military officers were quietly asked to retire. Miley in several of the Trump books states that he was informed by a mentor in September of 2020 that retired and active officers were "being recruited" for something around the election.
It's HARD to fight a pandemic in the best of times. When your country is bitterly divided and at each other's throats. It is practically impossible.
Yeah yeah okay but they didn't dismantle the fucking country please stop with the pearl clutching about the only political party not openly embracing facism and authoritarianism
It so happens that most of my friend group and family are democrats and they didn't fucking care to wear a mask or take many precautions. Many of my coworkers over the last few years are also liberal, but didn't care. Corporate leadership at Fortune 2000 companies failed at this too, and many of those people are outwardly democratic. Privately, they're probably more conservative than we think.
Republican leadership seems to suck more on this though, but everyone failed.
Initial reports point to a decline in IQ which is worsened by subsequent reinfection. See: [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2400189](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2400189)
"Modest cognitive decline occurred with the original virus and with each viral variant, including B.1.1.529 (omicron). As compared with uninfected participants (control), cognitive deficit — commensurate with a 3-point loss in IQ — was evident even in participants who had had mild Covid-19 with resolved symptoms. Participants with unresolved persistent symptoms had the equivalent of a 6-point loss in IQ, and those who had been admitted to the intensive care unit had the equivalent of a 9-point loss in IQ. Of importance, these deficits were associated with many of the other symptoms that have been reported by persons with long Covid. The greatest deficits in cognitive function were associated with the original strain of the virus (before December 1, 2020) and the early B.1.1.7 (alpha) variant (from December 1, 2020, to April 30, 2021). Longer hospital stays and durations of acute illness were predictors of persistent global deficits. Memory, reasoning, and executive function (i.e., planning) tasks were the most sensitive indicators of impaired function, and scores on these tasks tended to correlate with brain fog. Vaccinations provided a small cognitive advantage. Reinfection contributed an additional loss in IQ of nearly 2 points, as compared with no reinfection."
And of course there's concern regarding the potential acceleration of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc.
I always laugh to hear articles worry about what'll become of America when half of the newborns are autistic and the other half physically and medically disabled.
"What'll we do when we cant drive our Bentleys to our summer homes, Jeeves? What'll we do?"
"We'll do nothing about any of it. That's the neat part about being rich. There are no consequences!"
Long COVID is already here, on top of everything else humanity has been ignoring. It's long since become a crowded planet.
We'll start seeing mass die offs and starvation riots in the coming years and decades.
And then all the online fifteen year olds can argue over whether Texans or Californians were the less evil, and more misunderstood. Or whoever will be fighting, then.
Reminder to take your boosters, wash your hands, and wear masks in specific cases 😐
I always warn everyone around me this sh*t is still around *and we don't know what kind of other long term effects could suddenly pop up years after contamination*. But nobody really cares, and the ones who care a little get anxious because they feel helpless...
I bet the trashpeople society had working the worst, most dangerous jobs for $7.35 minimum wage and NO HEALTH BENEFITS, because we clllectivelybas a society decided to sacrifice these mouthbreathers who filled hard service jobs, fast food jobs, grocery clerks having one customer in sold-out respirators, and the next coughing in their face.
Thise people were made to work as slaves for all of us people who matter, whose lives have human worth. They would have the worst Long Covid. The ones who survived.
My hypothesis is that they are still dying younger per usual, as we keep these slave-trash-subhumans without healthcare to profit the job creators and those of us with sense or fortune enough to have aquired many assets.
So the proof is in the pudding: my hypothesis is the poor and miserable permanent-poor class are still working dangerous jobs with no healthcare.
My local uni hospitals continuously advertising for cleaners at a unlivable, coinage away from minimum wage, with no health benefits. I suppose those society treats as sub-human kept dying, presumably, as they were Covid ward cleaners with no health insurance or ability to draw unemployment!!!
So obviously people won't like this post since society likes to blame the loser class who were paid $1000 a month to die while no one cared that everyone else received $6000 a month.
This leads me to my second hypothesis: this society is morally intoxicated.
Among the most sinister effects is a drop in IQ that gets worse with reinfection.
My fear is that geopolitical forces will try to use suddenly extra-stupid portions of the population to tilt the long term direction of things to the fascist side.
Why the fuck are we even still here? Why does it have to be so long and drawn out? Why do we have to die to a metaphorical cancer instead of a metaphorical heart attack?
I agree with you : the slow collapse is really painful to look at and to experience.
But rejoice, as it will undoubtely accelerate, with the next pandemic cooking (bird flu and its mutations), among the many other things that could accelerate in the geopolitical theaters !
Accelerate :\]\]
I wonder what the deciding factor is in who does and doesn’t get long Covid. Both times I had Covid it took about two months for my respiratory system to recover (couldn’t walk even short distances without getting out of breath) but other than that I didn’t have any lasting effects. Covid also affected everyone in my family differently. My younger brother was hit the worst, my elderly mother was largely fine but lost her taste and smell (which neither I nor my brother did) and my teen son (though not biological) had extreme muscle fatigue and pain, particularly lower back pain. I mostly had respiratory issues, congestion and extreme fatigue.
Not just Americans, but every country where denial and "living with Covid" became public policy. So that's all the developed world and most of the undeveloped world.
I developed a chronic nerve disorder after my 3rd time getting covid. Sudden temperature changes, any intense exercise or physical exertion, and stress now triggers a burning pins and needles nerve pain sensation that spreads over my entire body.
I’ve seen a few written accounts of people who have developed the same issue after covid. Every doctor I see has no idea and just suggests vitamins and rest. It’s been 18 months now and it hasn’t changed at all, despite a variety of treatment efforts.
I just can’t let myself get stressed, can’t exercise intensely, and try to stay in a consistent temperature environment. Learning to not freak out when it happens helps it subside faster, but yeah.
I’m glad to not have any apparent cognitive effects, but oh boy does this suck really hard.
If it gets worse or ends up getting me fired from my job, I’m gonna try to get on disability I guess. Idk what to do about it.
Boomers got lead brain and now we got plastic/covid brain. I hope we get this shit figured out before it affects Gen Alpha because average intelligence all across the board has NOTICABLY DECLINED in just the last five years.
Don’t you think it’s already affecting Gen Alpha? They’re the Guinea pigs in this whole thing. So many kids have already had COVID more than once, and they continue being exposed to it in school. No one knows how this affects the developing brain.
Yeah I already had dyslexia mildly before and now it's ramped up. Mostly with reading words rather than spelling though, my brain doesn't process them correctly so they look like something else entirely
Call me a doomer, but “may” I think is being generous. I’d reckon it’s unlikely anyone won’t be somehow affected by it, unless we can figure out some sort of real way to mostly eradicate it. The statistics are just really showing that there are a large number of people infected who get long covid, and realistically I mean everyone is getting infected multiple times unless they are completely isolated.
I had Covid in late 2022 early 2023, my brain took a devastating hit, I developed a very addictive personality, severe brain fog, and rather severe aggression. By some dumb luck I retained a bit of self awareness, I got CBD oil and it has slowly but surely my brain started to repair, after almost 2 years my brain is now at about 60-75% on a good day, most days are around 55-60%, and generally less aggressive, in fact a bit peaceful now. My lungs are kinda shot though if I laugh too hard I kinda wind up on the ground in a coughing fit. I’m very weird about people even being slightly sick, to some it may not seem like a big deal, but I feel they just don’t get what that infection took away from me. Ever since I’ve been terrified of crowds and people in general (fear of illness, and the stupidity of others when in groups). The CBD oil does help a lot though.
Edit: covid is no fucking joke!
I'm on several teaching subs and there are so many comments about lack of attention span and behavior. It's just starting to come out that kids were much more impacted than thought. Stay tuned 😔
>Contrary to public belief, he warns, COVID is not like the flu. New variants evolve much faster, making annual shots inadequate. He believes that if things continue as they are, with new COVID variants emerging and reinfections happening rapidly, the majority of Americans may eventually grapple with some form of Long COVID.
That's what I've been saying for a while. It's simple math. Each infection increases the odds of developing long COVID. (Almost) Everyone gets COVID-19. People keep spreading it, so people keep getting it over and over. Eventually, everyone gets long COVID. It's a slow-motion zombie apocalypse.
We're just waiting on results of how resistant the kids are, because they're going to be getting COVID-19 over and over and over and over, starting from a very young age.
For anyone struggling,.I found great improvement with hyperbaric oxygen therapy. If you can access it, it's worth a shot. There have also been some reports of psychedelic mushrooms offering improvement as well
Take this as your reminder to get your booster. If you, like most Americans, last got your booster over a year ago you have basically no immunity left, but immunity from the vaccine significantly reduces your risk of long covid.
Saying this as somebody who slacked off in that regard and just got over a fucker of a bout of Covid.
As someone who was boosted last fall, is there a new booster I should get? Or just the same one I had already? I’m getting ready for some summer travel. I will be masked, but I really **really** do not want Covid.
The last updated boosters were 2 months ago in April, and I believe the next set is supposed to be this fall. The current ones are not updated for the new Flirt variant, but early data seems to show they do still provide limited protection.
I'm far from an expert, but it seems like the current recommendations are every 12 months for the general public and every 6 months for at-risk demographics. That said, what I could find online indicates that you have very little immunity left after 6 months no matter your age so I do not really understand why somebody shouldn't get them every 6 no matter what.
Personally, I would look into getting one if I was going to do a lot of traveling, especially to big cities, even if I was less than 12 months out from my last booster.
Excellent advice. Most big airports these days have clinics that you can get vaccinations at. Often they have ones that you won't find at your local drug store.
Unless you got Novavax. Just sayin'.
eta: I'm still getting annual boosters btw (that's all we are allowed here) and Nvax are currently prepping JN.1 boosters. But OG Nvax still allows some protection long term, unlike the mRNA vaxxes.
The Republicans are guilty of not stopping Covid when we had the chance in 2020.
In the book "I Alone Can Fix It" the Republican handling of Covid is described in detail. What’s really clear is that we missed our chance to contain C-19 in the first pass because Trump and the Republicans were worried about what it would do to his reelection prospects.
They crippled our response to the threat in the hopes it would be a false alarm or at least wouldn’t be serious until after the election.
Then we got amazingly lucky and previous research into a vaccine for the first SARS virus (2003) accelerated development of a vaccine for this one. In the medical equivalent of the Manhattan Project vaccines were developed in record time. But not fast enough for Trump.
He couldn’t take credit for the vaccines before Election Day. So, in a fit of pique knowing that Biden would get credit for the rollout of the vaccines, he deliberately poisoned the well and expressed doubt about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines.
Republican officials throughout the country amplified his message and encouraged a “wait and see” attitude among Republicans.
If we had gotten most of the country vaccinated by June, and we could have done it. We might have managed to snuff out the spread of Delta before it got a foothold in the population.
In early June 2021 fewer than 10% of the cases in the US were C-19D, by the end of July that number had grown to over 80%.
We had 90 million people in this country who were unvaccinated and ripe hosts for the Delta variant. But, in June 2021 Republican officials at every level called for an end to masking and a complete reopening of businesses so that the “Summer Season” might be saved.
Republican officials, like DeSantis, cynically pandered to Republican voters.
Not because they didn’t understand the dangers, but because they hoped that most of the population had been infected in the first waves with asymptomatic infections.
The “theory” circulating in Republican leadership circles and approved by Trump, was that the pandemic was over in America because most of the unvaccinated had probably had mild infections already. So, herd immunity had been reached.
Remember all the claims about "herd immunity". Turned out Covid doesn't work that way.
Republicans hoped that they could “have their cake” by pandering to their base, and “eat it too”. Because so many of their ignorant followers had been infected but didn’t know it, that another wave of Covid wouldn’t happen.
**Once again, they were wrong.**
Delta, as reported in a study in Nature, generates viral loads 1000 times greater in the infected than C-19A. It is probably one of the most infectious diseases ever. Right up there with measles.
Oh, and Delta caused illness of greater severity and had a higher mortality rate than the “old Covid” that killed 600,000 people in the US in 2020.
Plus, Delta was so virulent it caused “breakthrough” infections in the vaccinated.
So now there is reservoir of asymptomatic, but infected, vaccinated people that the virus can hide and mutate in. Until it flares up again and again so that we have “Covid Season” annual death tolls of 100–150K.
Republicans think we can live with that. Because it will be like "flu season" and 90% of the dying will be over 65.
An unfortunate truth. The US has a large influence on global politics, but it's also only 4% of the global population.
88% of the world population lives in The Global South and most of those countries were not equipped to suppress something as contagious as COVID.
If The US had done a better job containing it things would have been better - but COVID's high infectivity & quick establishment in many countries would have led to global entrenchment anyway.
We could have slowed it right down, and we still could contain it better, but it is really hard to put the cat back in the bag once it's out.
It's been discussed here. This has been one of the few places where people have generally known and acknowledged the horrifying implications of the science for the longest time.
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I woke up this morning with a sore throat and headache and tested positive for covid tonight. Is there anything I can do to lessen the chances of long term illness?
What are your vitamin D levels like? I had covid back in January and am lucky enough to live near the beach, so I soaked up some sunshine and went for a swim every day (socially distanced from others, I live in regional Australia). Not sure if it helped, but I recovered better than my first covid infection. Plenty of research to back it up too. Worth a try! Hope you recover well.
[https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-treatment-does-your-vitamin-d-level-play-a-role](https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-treatment-does-your-vitamin-d-level-play-a-role)
There was a reddit user, /u/gkm6-4, who was saying all that at the very first years of pandemic, he/she was ridiculed everywhere, including this subreddit, but he/she was damn right.
The brain fog is deal - I nearly died from a serious case early on in Jan-Feb 2020, following a gross nonsensical misdiagnosis of "end-stage COPD" which I knew was nonsensical because I'd just literally sprinted a mile a month prior, speed skated 16 miles per day up to about a month prior to that. I struggled with long haul covid for nearly 30 months afterward and the brain fog was real. I turned to sudoku, wordscapes, memory games, and other brain teaser phone games to retrain my brain to think. It didn't help that my ADHD was unmanaged my whole life up to and all the way through COVID.
Long haul also pushed my BP up from low-normal to ludicrous levels (223/185) and that took nearly two years to come down. It's a practically freaking miracle (and by miracle I mean dumb luck; there is no such thing as deity) I didn't end up with a stroke or organ failure.
I now suffer from hypochondria as result of that misdiagnosis and slightly elevated BP which is in turn due to hypochondria and insomnia from ADHD meds.
The risk of long covid is what keeps me wearing my mask, and I do not care if I'm the only one doing it. I've been covid free this whole time. In fact, the only times I've been sick at all-with a cold, and once I might have had RSV-was from not wearing a mask.
Not counting those stomach icks from gas station sushi 😀
I live in a house of 3 family members, including one young child. We have all been around it, use public transport, 2 of us were even isolated in a 1 bedroom house with an infected person for over a week. My office mate even had it. None of us are biologically related and none of us have had COVID. What are the chances of that?!? Our immune systems are not exceptional we do sometimes get sick and asthma and allergies are present. So strange, but also very grateful.
My daughter and I are Novids too. She has been around other kids with it at childcare, workmates and many friends have had it 2-3 times, we get PT regularly... I did get 3 x Novavax when I could, but even before that I was definitely exposed to it. My daughter is not yet 3, so has never had a vax (they aren't allowed in kids under 5 here unless high risk)... 🤷🏼♂️
Its very odd! I imagine there is a genetic component, but in our case very unlikely we all have the same genetic protective factor. Could it just be diet, exercise and a Vax schedule, surely not..
My brother, me, our dad and aunt are all novids (AFAIK). I’m not pushing my luck, so I still mask in stores, etc. and only eat at restaurants outdoors.
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Thankfully, so far I've been quite lucky. I don't feel quite as smart as I did back in February 2020, but when I have been ill, it's been noticeably worse than pre-Covid.
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Reading these comments is surreal. I haven't caught COVID yet, if I have I had no symptoms. I've certianly been around it, but have no cognitive decline. I'm a person that loves learning, and my ability to do math (huge part of my profession) has only gotten better.
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Since I had what I believe to be covid 2 years ago, my cognition hasn't been the same. I seriously thought I had some rare early onset dementia or had a stroke whilst I was sleeping. I have terrible memory and general brain fog. I can barely function as my brain just can't work properly. I'm 33.
> and general brain fog I have a co-worker that was struggling. My boss asked me to mentor them. After a while I told my boss that the person had a general understanding of the work, but they seemed to have some cognitive issue that I felt was beyond my ability to mentor. I recall specifically saying, "They make mistakes that I would make if I tried to do this work after staying awake for 30 hours." I found out later they had been hospitalized earlier that year for COVID.
It hits working memory pretty hard. Going from being able to keep 20 parallel things in your head to 1 or 2 is hugely debilitating even though you don’t technically know less than you used to before long covid.
This is something I’ve been feeling, I just can’t juggle thoughts like I used to and forget days old (sometimes hours old) information.
Yep. Ever since a bout of covid last xmas my onenote use has skyrocketed. If I don't leave little reminders I instantly forget.
have you seen the film Memento?
I have, and I'm starting to think he had the right idea.
Gotta keep a notepad handy now to write down multiple items so that you can come back to them.
Yep yep. My memory used to be incredible. Could remember very specific things like verbatim dialogue, time, place etc. I had the mental receipts. Now I seem to immediately forget certain things. If I’m told a story I might need a recap even minutes later. My sister will reference something that was said or done and I don’t even recall it happening in the first place
This is what it feels like for me
That's exactly how I feel right now. I feel that's its killing my long term career potential just now that it was starting to really take off before I got hit hard with covid.
I had covid very early on before it was classified as a pandemic. Cognition issues have hit me hard. Dyslexia, stuttering, memory issues, slow to think of the right words or string thoughts together. I used to be very snappy with responses, good with vocabulary. Fast with speech and comprehension. I feel like an old man now. I'm 38. These are far from the only issues covid left me with that are already making life a struggle and will get worse with time. No help is coming. No support. No bolstered safety nets or societal coming together. Im fucked because we're all fucked because we all don't give a fuck about anyone, not even ourselves.
Same. On most of those things. I'm 33. We didn't even know what it was the first time I caught it, and the media tried to claim it was impossible, but i've never been that sick in my life and the news came out about the first US cases the same week. It took MONTHS for me to get back to 75% and the next two years to hit 80+. I caught it again last year and I'm back to around 60% capacity most of the time. sometimes more sometimes less.
Exactly what happened to me as well. I spent thousands of dollars in copays and went through so many tests, yet nothing came of it. I finally gave up and just trudge along as best I can. It definitely sucks! :(
Exactly all of those things for me as well. Like I get to the ends of sentences and have to stop because I can't think of the right word which would have never happened to me before. Developed an infrequent and mild stutter after never having a stutter at any point in life before. My memory was never particularly great, but sometimes thing go in one ear and out the other when it should be information I should easily retain.
The speech thing is what's fucking me up. I used to be an eloquent and fluent speaker but now I struggle to find the right words. It's a bummer and I feel very isolated because it's so difficult for me to verbally communicate
I keep selecting the sorta right word, but not quite. For example, saying respectability when I meant responsibility. Or yeah, stop halfway in my sentence, completely forgetting how I wanted to end it.
I had pretty bad pneumonia back in December and developed brain fog issues around early February. Taking magnesium L-Theron has helped a lot. I tried lexapro for a bit but I found it was making me very impulsive and stopped. However, it’s calming effects definitely had a huge impact on the brain fog as well. Ultimately I’ve landed in CBD and CBDA really being helpful. What I think is happening is some sort of brain inflammation caused by stress and the brain/gut connection. I don’t know that’s just what has been helping me. I’ve always been a jittery person but I never thought of myself as, like, nervous. That was always just my baseline. My doctor thinks I might have something called hyperstimulation, where basically my body gets locked into a stress response a day or two after I have a stressful event, but I need to be diagnosed by a specialist. I’m in my 40’s now and I suppose I just can’t tank stress like I used to, especially after battling a severe illness. But between CBD, lexapro for a day or two (if I need it), magnesium, trying to take up meditation, and sleeping better, my brain fog issues have definitely improved. I don’t know if any of that will help you guys. It’s what has helped me with the brain fog stuff at least. It’s absolute hell when you don’t know what it is or how to manage it.
Unchecked stress and anxiety (or more accurately not addressing the things that caused them) kind of ruined my life. I should have made some hard decisions to avoid that outcome, but once you’re in it decision quality can drop off rapidly.
Good observations!
This is exactly how I feel. I often question if I'm getting dementia at 29.
Nope. My hope is that the brain will repair itself over a few years time. That plus drugs to speed up thinking, like adhd meds are going to become crucial for normal function.
Same here, will be 30 in a few months. Not how I imagined starting out what's supposed to be the best years of your life
Just an anecdote: I started taking Alpha GPC and high doses of Omega 3s, and it really helped my long COVID brain fog.
Similar, I started taking Omega 3s and SPMs (Specialised Pro-resolving Mediators, which is what our body's turn omega 3s into) and my brain started to feel sharper again.
I developed epilepsy. I don't know if I had COVID, I rarely get sick sick, but it does cross my mind that I could have had a really silent case of COVID that just affected my brain. I work with a high risk population in a hospital and had several confirmed cases.
It can definitely cause epilepsy and other neurological issues
Um, this isn't a recommendation for everyone and I'm not a health professional or anything. But there was a study that showed that shrooms(psilocybin) could help with brain fog and long COVID symptoms. It's a case study btw, so not too many people were studied regarding this. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ccr3.8791
This is super interesting. I have crohns and have been learning a bit about research into psychedelics and auto-immune diseases, so it makes sense that it could also help people with long covid. An example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3T0Joue0NI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3T0Joue0NI)
Hyperbaric oxygen therapy as well, helped me out
Or like eat greens and lower fat diet. I’m serious. I talk about it here: * https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1c0dqcu/why_are_so_many_young_people_getting_cancer/kywl1lc/ But the long and short of it is, standard American diets starve the body of oxygen 24/7…. You get away from it eating more unprocessed plants… And eating specific greens, high in nitrates, dilates blood vessels adding oxygen. * https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/nitrates/#:~:text=Certain%20vegetables%20contain%20nitrates%2C%20which,risk%20of%20high%20blood%20pressure. * https://nutritionfacts.org/video/oxygenating-blood-with-nitrate-rich-vegetables/ * https://nutritionfacts.org/video/whole-beets-vs-juice-for-improving-athletic-performance/ Veggies by nitrate count: * https://nutritionfacts.org/video/vegetables-rate-by-nitrate/ Anyway, just a cheap alternative that I think will help.
This guy forces everything into a video so here's the ranking of vegetables by nitrate count: * Beets 110 * Swiss Chard 151 * Oak Leaf Lettuce 155 * Beet Greens 177 * Basil 183 * Spring Greens 188 * Butterleaf Lettuce 200 * Cilantro 247 * Rhubarb 281 * Arugula 480 * (Beet Juice 279)
I'm assuming a higher number is better, whoa, look at that arugula go. Also my favorite green!
All of the things in this chain! - Cardio-vascular workout's help as well.
I eat so many greens. Can't imagine how much of a brain potato I'd be if I wasn't. 😬
Same. Ever since 2021 I don't even feel like the same person. My cognitive abilities were what I took pride in. I'm barely functioning at half of my previous capacity, and every activity I used to enjoy I can barely participate in because my mind just jams up.
I call it dry rot of the brain. Many times when I try to grasp a thought in my head it feels like it just crumbles away into dust like a dry rotted piece of wood
One of my favorite words that I learned since 2020 is **syncytia**. SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral fusogens cause neuronal and glial fusion that compromises neuronal activity [https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adg2248) >Numerous viruses use specialized surface molecules called fusogens to enter host cells. Many of these viruses, including the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), can infect the brain and are associated with severe neurological symptoms through poorly understood mechanisms. We show that SARS-CoV-2 infection induces fusion between neurons and between neurons and glia in mouse and human brain organoids. We reveal that this is caused by the viral fusogen, as it is fully mimicked by the expression of the SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) protein or the unrelated fusogen p15 from the baboon orthoreovirus. We demonstrate that neuronal fusion is a progressive event, leads to the formation of multicellular syncytia, and causes the spread of large molecules and organelles. Last, using Ca^(2+) imaging, we show that fusion severely compromises neuronal activity. These results provide mechanistic insights into how SARS-CoV-2 and other viruses affect the nervous system, alter its function, and cause neuropathology.
OMG! so glad u posted this. Im OLD! (I hate the word boomer!) my bro got this before me - spent Chinese NY in SF with his GF before covid was on the radar. He ended up taking experimental steroids to help him, hasnt fully recovered in yrs now. Me, no ins and worked thru this disease on my own. Was sick for months, and now for the last few yrs there are days I cant walk due to the pain that travels thru my body, esp the left side spine to foot. Taking herbals (no pain meds except that), they help. Everyone just says its old age, but I know its not. This is hell. Now I see its neuropathy. Everyone young posting here, (everyone, really) if there's a shot they can give you for bird flu - take it! (I did get covid shots but after I was so sick - that was the soonest they were available to me). Avian flu is no joke either, if youre already weakened by covid Im afraid of what could happen to you. Dont think there is anyone out there looking out for you. Dont get caught up in the GD media crap over it being not so bad. ITS BAD! wear a mask, wash hands etc, get any shots they offer. (my g-ma lived thru the 1918 flu, it was a horror and all they could do back then was wear a face cover, wash hands and stay away from others), Avian flu on top of long covid could destroy you.
Same here. I’m 30. When I had it, my fever was so high I thought my brain would melt and it just hasn’t been the same since. I have a Master’s degree and I’m forgetting words, things I’ve studied, things I’ve experienced, etc. And it’s like there’s no longer the filter of reason between me and the depression and anxiety. There are times where I get faint out of nowhere and it feels like my body suddenly just stops functioning the way it used to and I’m always at least a little tired. I’ve seen doctors and tried explaining it but don’t get taken seriously, so I keep hoping it’s just a matter of retraining my body… 😕
Covid has been shown to lower IQ by 2-3 points. While it doesn’t sound like much, spread across the population its significant. And it’s only been 4 years, we still don’t know the long term impact of it yet.
2-3 points with each infection, isn't it?
I've definitely also found myself forgetting things as I'm saying them since the first time I caught it.
I'm having this plus trouble sleeping and multiple people have said it might be long covid. Fuckity fuck.
Same.
I’m thinking most people are needing to take adhd meds to compensate now. It’s just they are hard to get access to.
I'm also 33 and have the exact same experience
Amyloid disease. Look it up
A very concerning amount of young folks are getting dementia. :/
Interesting, does it make a difference if you took the shot? Or will the result be the same
AFAIK you still get the bit of brain damage, just not as much as you would have without it. Similar to asymptomatic.
This time last year this was really bad for me. I was on autopilot 100% and felt so slow. I got paranoid about mold, got my house tested and stayed elsewhere for a long time to be safe. Haven't really noticed much of a difference. That being said, I do think having had covid can make us more sensitive to things in our environment we may not have reacted to previously.
I don't know for sure if having COVID twice (and twice more very lightly from the vaccines) has affected me or not. It feels sometimes like I'm stupider than I was 10 years ago. Like I struggle to learn or remember new things, like I'm less creative in general, like it takes me a lot longer to come up with solutions to problems, like I have less ability to cope with adversity and get up and do things. It feels like the way children are really good at retaining knowledge, and then that ability disappears in early adulthood. It's as if that has happened to me, again, between the ages of \~25-35. Maybe that's normal. It's extremely difficult to quantify. But I often find myself struggling to, say, learn the mechanics of a new videogame or forgetting it a week later; and I ask myself "would the me from 2014 been this bad?"
COVID made my ADHD a lot worse and my smell and taste came back diminished and different.
☝️ This!!! Had it for the first time that I know of about 3 months ago, and still struggling with taste and smell, it's not the same. And massive fatigue and working memory, which was bad already. Wishing you well. ❤️
Same here! But because Covid made my ADHD so unmanageable and I sought help, I was diagnosed with autism as well (I’m a girl, wasn’t assessed for autism because of that) and long covid. So it was a blessing in a way. I thought I was having a mental breakdown because of university and relationship stress. I’d had Covid and couldn’t smell anything for 4 months, but then started having phantom smells (bad ones) which combined with sleep deprivation, stress, my adhd symptoms were off the charts which was making me even more stressed as deadlines approached. I sought help, and over a few sessions she asked me if I’d been assessed for autism and then that journey began. I have physical health issues (endometriosis & related comorbidities) so the brain fog was normal, but is now significantly worse. I take some supplements to try manage this (neurobion, magnesium, sceletium, mushrooms)
Certain mushrooms, have been showing promising results. I had long covid as well, And I found Lions mane, Rishi and other fun mushrooms dramatically increased my brain function back to near normal over a 2 year period...
Is it a temporary effect? Or a cumulative one?
Psilocybin fundamentally changes my mind for 6 months to a year after a single session. Without it I'm depressed and want to die half the time. With it and it's like I still have the bad thoughts from time to time but rather than feeling them and being dragged down I just acknowledge them and then sort of subconsciously analyse them to work out where they're coming from. I feel like I'm in a sort of permanent state of being happy to continue to live and keep doing things but being perfectly fine dying at any time. If I wake up tomorrow, fine I'll keep working on my projects but if there's no tomorrow that's fine too. I find it quite a positive and productive mindset to have whilst the world is so broken and continuing to get worse. Ever since the first few times I took mushrooms I can see a swirling vortex of colour when I close my eyes if I've smoked weed or even just CBD and have mild closed eye visuals when I focus on it. I don't recall ever seeing that on weed before I took mushrooms. I don't know if it's just part of the aging process or if it's due to the mushrooms but I regularly have random memories come up seemingly from nowhere and can recall situations from childhood quite vividly. It often feels like my life is flashing before my eyes but just very slower over years rather than all at once. Usually positive, happy memories but when they're unpleasant, bad or awkward they don't really bother me. Whereas I used to just dwell on all the awkward stuff. I cook with lion's mane regularly and have reishi or cordyceps in tea every now and then but don't notice much of anything as a result. I do think every meal is improved by the addition of lion's mane though.
God if I could try psilocybin that would great. Too bad it’s just impossible for me to find and I’m not crazy about growing mushrooms on my own. Do it wrong or eat the wrong type and you get straight poison yourself.
Growing them is easy. Spores are legal in most places so can be bought online. There's not really anything dangerously toxic with black spores that resembles the most commonly foraged psilocybin containing species, though I've never found any in the wild other than the odd Panaeolus in a plant pot.
Let me preface this by saying the following: 'mushrooms' make me nauseas in any quantity. I don't like tripping and I don't want to. I am not receptive to it. THEY WORK. I had someone that knows how it all works make me some capsules of raw mushroom, weighed to 250mg per. I took 1 per morning for 4 days in a row. never tripped. ALWAYS felt yucky in my tummy for about an hour then felt great. I have not done them since (2.5yrs now) and the fog they pulled me out of was like being pulled out of a tunnel into the light. (I'm told the reason I get sick is my body reacts poorly to processing the chitin from the mushroom husk and supposedly would have had a better time using processed edibles from a legal state) I hope this doesn't get deleted or banned. Don't anyone do anything stupid. I just wanted to share my experience.
Making tea from them can reduce nausea since you're extracting the active compounds into the hot water whilst leaving behind most of the chitin in the solids. Lemon TEK or putting them in orange juice can help too and may increase the potency a little by virtue of reducing the time they take to hit. I seem to have an extremely low tolerance such that I can get trips way more intense than should be possible from just 1g or less. ie. I've had the effects most people and guides describe from 3-4g on 0.8-1.2g so I don't really want to go much higher. I have no idea how people take them around friends or before watching a movie because I pretty much have to just lie down in the dark as the visuals become too overwhelming and the thoughts too introspective. Completely fixed my depression but I do always have a pretty strong feeling like I've been poisoned that I find hard to deal with. Not nausea so much as a general unease in my whole body. I'm trying to microdose at the moment but accidently started mildly tripping on just 0.25g in 1 litre of tea the other day such that I had to stop what I was doing and lie down. 0.1g seems to be alright. I think the most important thing is to start lower than most people suggest. I see way too many people recommending ridiculously high doses to people for a first time.
> I'm trying to microdose at the moment but accidently started mildly tripping You're supposed to find your smallest psychoactive dose and then take *one eighth* of that. 0.1 is still too much.
Well, I stopped taking my supplements ( also bought lions mane grow kits) (PSA, ALWAYS COOK MUSHROOMS, you can get violently sick if you don't) and my mental clarity has not worsened, So it appears to be permanent. I'd recommend giving lions mane a shot, Do your research, a lot of the supplements are shotty, which is why I preferred the grow kits as it was a better bang for the buck.
Lion's mane is very easy to grow. If you want to continue using it long term I'd recommend investing in a stove top pressure cooker for sterilising your own substrate. It will work out much cheaper in the long term and give you more self sufficiency since you can then turn inedible wood and plant material into mushrooms.
I can vouch for lion's mane, it has been helping me tremendously.
Not to mention delicious!
It's wild that lion's mane is both delicious AND medicinal.
Well I don't choke on the taste of mushrooms anymore because of Covid so I might as well give it a shot haha
Hey what do you mean when you say made your adhd alot worse? Thanks
Brain fog in waves was already a thing for me but I managed, after Covid the fog was worse. Also a much lower threshold for overstimulation especially with noise and touch. ADHD meds have been helping but mostly just get me back to where I was more than anything.
Man it made get diagnosed with it
Some of us have been warning people about this for years and have been ignored or shouted down, mocked, or belittled for it the whole time.
I think of polio. In the 1950s, effective vaccines were introduced, leading to a drastic decline in cases in the US. If you look at a graph, polio cases effectively flatline soon after 1960. The last cases of wild polio in the US was in the late 1970s. It too until the 1980s for the medical community to recognize post polio syndrome - a condition that occurs many years after infection due to damage polio did to the body. We literally didn't understand the health risks of polio until after it was extinct in the US. Oh, and the symptoms of post polio? A progression of muscle atrophy, that starts to show symptoms about 15-30 years after the initial polio infection. It's still poorly understood, but the thinking is that the initial disease prematurely ages some cells, causing them to fail later on. It may be that covid will have a similar effect. We still don't understand all the effects of covid or how it attacks the body, and modern medicine still has plenty of unknowns.
I think about post polio syndrome all the time with COVID! Except with brain damage instead of "just" muscle atrophy.
I know a number of people who had to abandon a career that requires high-functioning because of "brain fog" post covid.
Now imagine if enough people get long covid that we can no longer fill those jobs at all-what do you think that will do to society? (I'm asking this as a rhetorical question, not as an accusation.) I don't think enough people truly appreciate how devastating that would be and how easily society could completely fall apart if enough people get debilitating long covid that prevents them from being able to perform certain jobs (or in some cases, prevents them from being able to work altogether.)
And in the context of climate change, we need society as a whole to act against its immediate pleasure and in favour of short-term pain to save society in the long-run. So people are getting dumber as we meed them to pack very difficult decisions based on highly complex issues.
I would have had to leave too if my symptoms had continued. I didn't know about mushrooms or anything at that time, so I just started doing basic mental maths. Multiplication tables - upto 10 was easy, then 11-20, then 21-30. Random factorials, LCMs, HCFs, all basic school maths but it helped a lot to bring my mind back over a few weeks/months. To be fair, maths was always my favourite in school.
What do they for work now? Are they able to get by?
One is stocking shelves at a Canadian chain pharmacy/department store. Think CVS. Used to be a project manager (i think) at a major tech company.
Basically anyone in a STEM field is fucked if they can’t snap out of it.
I still wear a KN95 indoors, which is extremely unusual in my state. I don’t really care that people think I’m weird, I’ve been keeping up with the published research and I absolutely do not want long COVID. I’m not in a position where I can stop working and survive.
Lone Masker Gang!
A firm "I can't afford to get sick" is both definitive and vague enough to usually shut most nosey knuckledraggers up.
For me it's not even being able to survive in the financial sense. I don't think I want to live a life where I'm bedridden and can't do anything, even if I got disability benefits. What would the point even be? I've been lurking long hauler subs and it sounds absolutely miserable, and trust them when they say they wouldn't wish LC on anyone. And that's exactly why I still wear a mask. I don't think I will stop anytime soon either seeing I got sick 4 times despite wearing one this winter.
Yep. I regularly congratulate (unmasked) individuals who hassle me on their extensive sick leave pay. Then I say I'd love to mooch off the company and milk sick pay, but I'm self employed. Then I ask if they're volunteering to fund my sick pay. It works real well with the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" crowd. They hate being associated with laziness and milking the system.
An unavoidable outcome once we decided to listen to the economists instead of doctors.
What I'm still extremely upset about is the overwhelming acceptance of reduced death rates being considered the benchmark for success or policy changes. That is not an acceptable line in the sand, and I refuse to let others make the decision for me that because there is a reduced chance of dying that things are okay! There are a plethora of life debilitating ramifications that I do not want to risk contacting, and as a person with feewill and autonomy I will not let my peers impose their ignorant perspective upon my person. God help me I cannot stress this enough.
Covid has made me hate people and society in a way I didn't think I ever could.
I hate that I can relate to this issue but I've felt this way ever since it was proven just how false the whole "We're in this together." shit really was. I don't want to be a cynic and give up all faith in humanity but man, it's fucking hard when people act the way they do now.
Same.
It has worked very well in most of us in that sense. Whether it was intended as a weapon of social manipulation and control or not, that is what it was, and continues to be, after it went pandemic. The dumbing, weakening, and socially-fracturing effects were, and are, very clearly realized and harnessed very early on… if not long before. (I find the dismantling of the Pandemic Response Unit by the Trump White House in 2018 to be a highly suspicious source of smoke for this fiery conspiracy theory.)
Covid just showed us how broken human society is. That's all.
Drs are no better. Have a look through the r/covidlonghaulers sub to see the way drs treat the chronically ill, or see that they no longer mask for oncology patients, or spread misinformation. Or see not a single for masked Dr at conferences, even long covid researchers. Drs absolutely don’t get it either. It’s a wild time to be alive.
If we'd truly listened to economists, we'd probably have run a CBA and found out that the potential drain on productivity merited greater health investment. Don't lump economists in with businessmen and autocrats, those people just do what lets them maintain the status quo.
Economists are propagandists for capitol and capitalists. Nothing more.
Listen, I hate how financial economists have a stranglehold on the field as much as the next guy, but things like health economics and environmental economics exist. They're just not paid well or given much attention because of capitalists.
People conflate economist with capitalist because we live in a capitalist economy. They forget that other forms of economy exist and most economists would prefer we move to a more efficient, sustainable economic model. Economists are probably the most aware of how flawed capitalism is as an economic model.
Absolutely
Hell, Marx was an economist
Fucking thank you. This dude gets it
I listened to doctors and never caught covid. I avoided crowds. Didn't fly in a tube. Wore a mask. Got my shots. Stayed out of the stores and crowds at Christmas. Edited to add I'm old and retired so it was not difficult to avoid crowds etc. At my age it could have been a death sentence or debilitating so I hibernated since the adult kids seem to want me to live longer. A few neck beards would give me dirty looks for even wearing a mask when I did go out.
Good for you, some of us were stuck selling toilet paper to privileged people like you (who also harassed us infinitely worse than normal) in March 2020 while our employers denied us basic human rights, and we had no choice but to be exposed to a deadly & debilitating virus. Actually, we did have a choice - that, or starve/be homeless/lose health insurance/etc.
Wish I was as privileged as you seem to think I am it was. I'm old and retired so I was able to stay home and avoid crowds. I felt terrible for the store clerks and the azzholes who emerged during the pandemic hassling them. Alot of people like myself felt bad for the clerks. Rednecks even glared at me for wearing a mask when I did go to the store. 😱
Did the same. Got covid 3 times. Luckily any long-covid symptoms subsided a long time ago
Are you testing weekly? Since the start of the pandemic? Cuz if you haven't been, all you know is that you haven't had symptomatic Covid yet. I know plenty of people (including my husband and best friend) who got fully asymptomatic Covid. Which seems to be able to fuck people up as much as the symptomatic type over time.
I always kept the little tests around to check if I felt like I had a cold or anything. I'm old and retired so I didn't have to be out exposed to it.
Well yeah of course they did it would have caused an economic world collapse. Sure we might need that but if that happens kiss the third world goodbye. This is globalism.
Covid didn’t give me symptoms. But my immune system went to shit. Next sickness came around and stuck for months. Months. I never got better. I have a lung disease now. I can also only work 2 days a week compared to my 3 days a week late 2020/early 2021. Well more accurately, I made it 6 months at 3 days a week before my disability couldn’t handle it. Come 2024 I got a job again and managed 2 months at 3 days before I couldn’t handle it. My fibromyalgia is accumulative. But my overall health And ability to function I so much worse compared to pre covid. Fibro doesn’t do that. Not like this. I’ve had fibro get so bad I can barely leave my bed for months. But this isn’t it
One do the big changes I see out and about in the world is more people understanding symptoms of my illness. Brain fog being one. Fatigue another. It just seems like so many more people experience these things now. My co workers do. Before COVID? Nope.
If there is one thing we excel at, it's ignoring people who know what they're talking about because we can't even selfish right.
> because we can't even selfish right horribly succinct.
Humans don't really handle abstract danger very well
We don't handle any danger very well anymore. Even when it's in our faces and currently murdering us.
The scientific community doesn’t have a great track record of treating people humanely. I don’t agree with it, just pointing out why the mistrust even exists.
SS: As more and more data comes in, what scientists have been warning about from the early days of 2020 is starting to happen. Long COVID rates are rising, and at current rates of infection the expert the article is covering believes it will affect every American. Read that again - *every American*. Collapse-related because 'let 'er rip' was always a strategy of death and mass disability, and can only hasten our demise as the dominant species of the planet.
I’m lucky because I never got Covid that I’m aware of, but despite my cognitive functions being no worse than before, I feel like Covid somehow shattered my worldview, and nothing is the same anymore.
Entfremdung.
Had to look up that word, but yeah it’s something like that. It’s as though in the past “the world” and “society” seemed like positive, life-affirming things that I longed to be part of, and now I have trouble believing in them, sometimes it all feels so hollow…
This Chinese Consultant nailed it years ago. "[A Chinese business consultant in a Ted-style talk justified zero-Covid policy by saying that in 10 years the West will be brought to its knees b/c long-Covid](https://x.com/YanzhongHuang/status/1586537964267798530), which will decimate most of its labor force."
I am grateful I was a COVID-zero place also. At least we escaped the worst variants like beta and delta.
But in this globalized world and once China opened the international traffic, won't they be in the same scenario, but just slightly later ?
Sigh, this is what you get when Republicans win elections. The article states: "The danger is clear and present: COVID isn’t merely a respiratory illness; it’s a multi-dimensional threat impacting [brain function](https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/does-covid-19-damage-the-brain), attacking [almost all of the body’s organs](https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/27756/long-term-health-effects-of-covid-19-disability-and-function), producing [elevated risks of all kinds](https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2022/46/more-proof-covid-is-a-multi-system-cluster-bomb/), and [weakening our ability to fight off other diseases](https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/Documents/nCoV/voc/2022/07/evidence-brief-ba4-ba5-risk-assessment-jul-8.pdf?sc_lang=en). Reinfections are thought to produce [cumulative risks](https://time.com/6232103/covid-19-reinfections-effects/), and Long COVID is on the rise. Unfortunately, Long COVID is now being considered a [long-term chronic illness](https://www.statnews.com/2024/06/06/long-covid-disability-national-academy-of-sciences/) — something many people will never fully recover from." OK, the fact that Covid wasn't a "respiratory illness" was known almost immediately. In the first batch of autopsies in NYC in 2020. The pathologists found "micro-clotting" in every organ of the body including the BRAIN. [What dozens of Covid-19 patient autopsies have revealed about the disease](https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/14/covid-autopsies) **Blood clots ‘in almost every organ’** Micro-clotting in the brain is another way of describing a stroke. Covid presents like an respiratory virus. People think of it as being "like a cold". It's not, Covid is more like an infection of the blood. It uses the circulatory system to spread through the body and can attack/damage almost every organ in the body. [COVID-19 Is a Vascular Disease: Coronavirus’ Spike Protein Attacks Vascular System on a Cellular Level](https://scitechdaily.com/covid-19-is-a-vascular-disease-coronavirus-spike-protein-attacks-vascular-system-on-a-cellular-level/) Including your brain. People have had "psychotic breaks" as a result of "mild Covid infections". People have had personality shifts after Covid infections. People have become unable to remember how to do their jobs after a Covid infection. [Anxiety, depression and strokes can occur after infection, leaving experts to determine how the virus affects the brain.](https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-brain-coronavirus-symptom-stroke-anxiety-depression?utm_source=Latest_Headlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest_Headlines) [Mild COVID Linked to Brain Damage: What That Means for You](https://www.cognitivefxusa.com/blog/mild-covid-linked-to-brain-damage) [Study shows COVID leaves brain injury markers in blood](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/study-shows-covid-leaves-brain-injury-markers-blood) All things that can also happen from strokes or brain damage. Just a few months ago I saw a paper equating a "Moderate case of Covid" with a moderate TBI or "Traumatic Brain Injury". It was OBVIOUS from Day 1 what was going to happen. However, instead of a rational response we got the "Republican Response". Protect the ECONOMY at ANY COST so TRUMP can get Reelected. Remember how much the "Swedish Model" was talked up by Republicans? Republican "science" emphasizes the idea that novel viruses attenuate and become less virulent over time. So, if a generation gets damaged that's OK because the virus will get less harmful over time AND you don't have to spend a dime fighting it. It's"Nature's Way".
I’d always considered it to be more of a circulatory illness, the anecdotes coming out at the time certainly were pointing that way; also, some of the studies were showing it to be airborne despite what the government was saying at the time. I believe it was mostly due to a misunderstanding of old TB data that led to the insistence that Covid “could not” be airborne and I remember there being a radio piece that covered the discovery. Sources: my dad a cardiologist and the time/willingness to look at underlying data.
This was my analysis on July 3rd 2020. I wrote it as a "six month" milestone of the pandemic. This is Going to be Bad - 08 [https://smokingtyger.medium.com/this-is-going-to-be-bad-ep-08-8e4cf9ffc2e4?sk=e1c8e62140a7458b46c1efd3bb89e064](https://smokingtyger.medium.com/this-is-going-to-be-bad-ep-08-8e4cf9ffc2e4?sk=e1c8e62140a7458b46c1efd3bb89e064) I stated: "Everyone who is exposed enough to C-19 will get infected.The only way to not get infected is to minimize your exposure to the virus." **It’s a Highly Infectious, easily Transmissible Virus** The earliest case studies out of China have shown that C-19 is highly infectious in enclosed spaces. There was the bus case, the restaurant case, and the call center case. All of which indicated that a single infected individual could easily spread the virus to multiple people, without direct face to face contact, in an enclosed indoor environment. Multiple studies of superspreader incidents in the US and Europe have confirmed this. While there was a great deal of concern about the virus’s ability to spread on contaminated surfaces. What we have learned is that the primary vector of transmission is small aerosolized particles that individuals exhale through breathing. Although you can get C-19 from a contaminated surface the most likely route of infection is breathing contaminated air. **It’s a “Stealthy” Virus** From the beginning we have known that for each “serious” infection there were many other asymptomatic or mild infections. The earliest population study from the Italian village of Vo, proved the existence of asymptomatic infections -- Suppression of a SARS-CoV-2 outbreak in the Italian municipality of Vo. [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2488-1](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2488-1) Accumulating evidence suggests that the ratio of asymptomatic and mild infections to “serious” infections is about 80/20. Only about one out of five C-19 infections will require medical attention or hospitalization. The idea that if you don’t feel sick you are not infectious is wrong. Most of the people who get C-19 will never feel “sick”. They are still infectious and can spread the virus though. Even for those who develop a serious illness, there is a “presymptomatic” period which can range from several days to several weeks. During this period, they will not “feel sick” but they are infectious. Basically, everyone who gets infected can become infectious in about three days whether they have any symptoms or not. Temperature checks for fever aren’t a reliable screen for infection. Many of the infected never have a high fever. If you think entry into an area is “safe” because they are taking people’s temperatures, you are wrong. There is no reliable way to know if someone without obvious illness is infected.
It's not just Republicans. Democrats fail to address or even acknowledge this in any way. Even much of the medical community fails to. This is a catastrophic societal failing at all levels.
It's hard to fight a pandemic when you are in the middle of a "cold civil war". January 6th 2021 was a coup attempt. The Trumpublicans are making noises like they want to try again. The Democrats only "loosely" control some of the Agencies. DHS, ICE, and CBP are all Trumpist strongholds. FBI is mixed with some states weaponized by Trumpublicans (they zealously investigate Democrats only). DOJ is also mixed and at war with itself. The CDC is a feeble shell that's lost most of its credibility and the Supreme Court has 2 members who could be implicated for conspiracy around J6. After J6, over 1,200 military officers were quietly asked to retire. Miley in several of the Trump books states that he was informed by a mentor in September of 2020 that retired and active officers were "being recruited" for something around the election. It's HARD to fight a pandemic in the best of times. When your country is bitterly divided and at each other's throats. It is practically impossible.
And yet far too often when democrats had power they did far too little, or worse.
Yeah yeah okay but they didn't dismantle the fucking country please stop with the pearl clutching about the only political party not openly embracing facism and authoritarianism
But the Republicans helped, like, a fucking lot.
It so happens that most of my friend group and family are democrats and they didn't fucking care to wear a mask or take many precautions. Many of my coworkers over the last few years are also liberal, but didn't care. Corporate leadership at Fortune 2000 companies failed at this too, and many of those people are outwardly democratic. Privately, they're probably more conservative than we think. Republican leadership seems to suck more on this though, but everyone failed.
Initial reports point to a decline in IQ which is worsened by subsequent reinfection. See: [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2400189](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2400189) "Modest cognitive decline occurred with the original virus and with each viral variant, including B.1.1.529 (omicron). As compared with uninfected participants (control), cognitive deficit — commensurate with a 3-point loss in IQ — was evident even in participants who had had mild Covid-19 with resolved symptoms. Participants with unresolved persistent symptoms had the equivalent of a 6-point loss in IQ, and those who had been admitted to the intensive care unit had the equivalent of a 9-point loss in IQ. Of importance, these deficits were associated with many of the other symptoms that have been reported by persons with long Covid. The greatest deficits in cognitive function were associated with the original strain of the virus (before December 1, 2020) and the early B.1.1.7 (alpha) variant (from December 1, 2020, to April 30, 2021). Longer hospital stays and durations of acute illness were predictors of persistent global deficits. Memory, reasoning, and executive function (i.e., planning) tasks were the most sensitive indicators of impaired function, and scores on these tasks tended to correlate with brain fog. Vaccinations provided a small cognitive advantage. Reinfection contributed an additional loss in IQ of nearly 2 points, as compared with no reinfection." And of course there's concern regarding the potential acceleration of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc.
I love how this is being politicized rather than focusing on the people fucked up by this. Ahhhh good ole tribalism
I always laugh to hear articles worry about what'll become of America when half of the newborns are autistic and the other half physically and medically disabled. "What'll we do when we cant drive our Bentleys to our summer homes, Jeeves? What'll we do?" "We'll do nothing about any of it. That's the neat part about being rich. There are no consequences!" Long COVID is already here, on top of everything else humanity has been ignoring. It's long since become a crowded planet. We'll start seeing mass die offs and starvation riots in the coming years and decades. And then all the online fifteen year olds can argue over whether Texans or Californians were the less evil, and more misunderstood. Or whoever will be fighting, then.
I worry you may be right. !remindme 15 years
Reminder to take your boosters, wash your hands, and wear masks in specific cases 😐 I always warn everyone around me this sh*t is still around *and we don't know what kind of other long term effects could suddenly pop up years after contamination*. But nobody really cares, and the ones who care a little get anxious because they feel helpless...
I bet the trashpeople society had working the worst, most dangerous jobs for $7.35 minimum wage and NO HEALTH BENEFITS, because we clllectivelybas a society decided to sacrifice these mouthbreathers who filled hard service jobs, fast food jobs, grocery clerks having one customer in sold-out respirators, and the next coughing in their face. Thise people were made to work as slaves for all of us people who matter, whose lives have human worth. They would have the worst Long Covid. The ones who survived. My hypothesis is that they are still dying younger per usual, as we keep these slave-trash-subhumans without healthcare to profit the job creators and those of us with sense or fortune enough to have aquired many assets. So the proof is in the pudding: my hypothesis is the poor and miserable permanent-poor class are still working dangerous jobs with no healthcare. My local uni hospitals continuously advertising for cleaners at a unlivable, coinage away from minimum wage, with no health benefits. I suppose those society treats as sub-human kept dying, presumably, as they were Covid ward cleaners with no health insurance or ability to draw unemployment!!! So obviously people won't like this post since society likes to blame the loser class who were paid $1000 a month to die while no one cared that everyone else received $6000 a month. This leads me to my second hypothesis: this society is morally intoxicated.
Among the most sinister effects is a drop in IQ that gets worse with reinfection. My fear is that geopolitical forces will try to use suddenly extra-stupid portions of the population to tilt the long term direction of things to the fascist side.
Already happening.
Why the fuck are we even still here? Why does it have to be so long and drawn out? Why do we have to die to a metaphorical cancer instead of a metaphorical heart attack?
I agree with you : the slow collapse is really painful to look at and to experience. But rejoice, as it will undoubtely accelerate, with the next pandemic cooking (bird flu and its mutations), among the many other things that could accelerate in the geopolitical theaters ! Accelerate :\]\]
I wonder what the deciding factor is in who does and doesn’t get long Covid. Both times I had Covid it took about two months for my respiratory system to recover (couldn’t walk even short distances without getting out of breath) but other than that I didn’t have any lasting effects. Covid also affected everyone in my family differently. My younger brother was hit the worst, my elderly mother was largely fine but lost her taste and smell (which neither I nor my brother did) and my teen son (though not biological) had extreme muscle fatigue and pain, particularly lower back pain. I mostly had respiratory issues, congestion and extreme fatigue.
Inflammatory response/cytokine storm: [https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2023.1011936/full](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2023.1011936/full) Age, severity of acute illness, and comorbidities: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8450986/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8450986/) It's multifactorial.
Not just Americans, but every country where denial and "living with Covid" became public policy. So that's all the developed world and most of the undeveloped world.
I developed a chronic nerve disorder after my 3rd time getting covid. Sudden temperature changes, any intense exercise or physical exertion, and stress now triggers a burning pins and needles nerve pain sensation that spreads over my entire body. I’ve seen a few written accounts of people who have developed the same issue after covid. Every doctor I see has no idea and just suggests vitamins and rest. It’s been 18 months now and it hasn’t changed at all, despite a variety of treatment efforts. I just can’t let myself get stressed, can’t exercise intensely, and try to stay in a consistent temperature environment. Learning to not freak out when it happens helps it subside faster, but yeah. I’m glad to not have any apparent cognitive effects, but oh boy does this suck really hard. If it gets worse or ends up getting me fired from my job, I’m gonna try to get on disability I guess. Idk what to do about it.
Boomers got lead brain and now we got plastic/covid brain. I hope we get this shit figured out before it affects Gen Alpha because average intelligence all across the board has NOTICABLY DECLINED in just the last five years.
Don’t you think it’s already affecting Gen Alpha? They’re the Guinea pigs in this whole thing. So many kids have already had COVID more than once, and they continue being exposed to it in school. No one knows how this affects the developing brain.
I seem fairly good cognitively but my spelling is awful in ways that weren’t the case before. Has anyone else experienced this after COVID?
Yes, I have always been excellent at spelling but now it feels like I'm dyslexic.
Yeah I already had dyslexia mildly before and now it's ramped up. Mostly with reading words rather than spelling though, my brain doesn't process them correctly so they look like something else entirely
Call me a doomer, but “may” I think is being generous. I’d reckon it’s unlikely anyone won’t be somehow affected by it, unless we can figure out some sort of real way to mostly eradicate it. The statistics are just really showing that there are a large number of people infected who get long covid, and realistically I mean everyone is getting infected multiple times unless they are completely isolated.
Watch Long Covid turn out to be the Zombie Virus from The Walking Dead
I had Covid in late 2022 early 2023, my brain took a devastating hit, I developed a very addictive personality, severe brain fog, and rather severe aggression. By some dumb luck I retained a bit of self awareness, I got CBD oil and it has slowly but surely my brain started to repair, after almost 2 years my brain is now at about 60-75% on a good day, most days are around 55-60%, and generally less aggressive, in fact a bit peaceful now. My lungs are kinda shot though if I laugh too hard I kinda wind up on the ground in a coughing fit. I’m very weird about people even being slightly sick, to some it may not seem like a big deal, but I feel they just don’t get what that infection took away from me. Ever since I’ve been terrified of crowds and people in general (fear of illness, and the stupidity of others when in groups). The CBD oil does help a lot though. Edit: covid is no fucking joke!
Yeah it’s hitting everyone. Plus high stress
I'm on several teaching subs and there are so many comments about lack of attention span and behavior. It's just starting to come out that kids were much more impacted than thought. Stay tuned 😔
>Contrary to public belief, he warns, COVID is not like the flu. New variants evolve much faster, making annual shots inadequate. He believes that if things continue as they are, with new COVID variants emerging and reinfections happening rapidly, the majority of Americans may eventually grapple with some form of Long COVID. That's what I've been saying for a while. It's simple math. Each infection increases the odds of developing long COVID. (Almost) Everyone gets COVID-19. People keep spreading it, so people keep getting it over and over. Eventually, everyone gets long COVID. It's a slow-motion zombie apocalypse. We're just waiting on results of how resistant the kids are, because they're going to be getting COVID-19 over and over and over and over, starting from a very young age.
For anyone struggling,.I found great improvement with hyperbaric oxygen therapy. If you can access it, it's worth a shot. There have also been some reports of psychedelic mushrooms offering improvement as well
Cool and fun we won't remember the apocalypse when that earthquake happened or when the bombs fell.
Take this as your reminder to get your booster. If you, like most Americans, last got your booster over a year ago you have basically no immunity left, but immunity from the vaccine significantly reduces your risk of long covid. Saying this as somebody who slacked off in that regard and just got over a fucker of a bout of Covid.
As someone who was boosted last fall, is there a new booster I should get? Or just the same one I had already? I’m getting ready for some summer travel. I will be masked, but I really **really** do not want Covid.
The last updated boosters were 2 months ago in April, and I believe the next set is supposed to be this fall. The current ones are not updated for the new Flirt variant, but early data seems to show they do still provide limited protection. I'm far from an expert, but it seems like the current recommendations are every 12 months for the general public and every 6 months for at-risk demographics. That said, what I could find online indicates that you have very little immunity left after 6 months no matter your age so I do not really understand why somebody shouldn't get them every 6 no matter what. Personally, I would look into getting one if I was going to do a lot of traveling, especially to big cities, even if I was less than 12 months out from my last booster.
Excellent advice. Most big airports these days have clinics that you can get vaccinations at. Often they have ones that you won't find at your local drug store.
Thank you so much! I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of that, and I hope you stay well. I’m checking into a booster this week!
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Thank you so much for the information! Off to read!
Get the JN.1 Nvax booster in August if you are able.
Unless you got Novavax. Just sayin'. eta: I'm still getting annual boosters btw (that's all we are allowed here) and Nvax are currently prepping JN.1 boosters. But OG Nvax still allows some protection long term, unlike the mRNA vaxxes.
The Republicans are guilty of not stopping Covid when we had the chance in 2020. In the book "I Alone Can Fix It" the Republican handling of Covid is described in detail. What’s really clear is that we missed our chance to contain C-19 in the first pass because Trump and the Republicans were worried about what it would do to his reelection prospects. They crippled our response to the threat in the hopes it would be a false alarm or at least wouldn’t be serious until after the election. Then we got amazingly lucky and previous research into a vaccine for the first SARS virus (2003) accelerated development of a vaccine for this one. In the medical equivalent of the Manhattan Project vaccines were developed in record time. But not fast enough for Trump. He couldn’t take credit for the vaccines before Election Day. So, in a fit of pique knowing that Biden would get credit for the rollout of the vaccines, he deliberately poisoned the well and expressed doubt about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines. Republican officials throughout the country amplified his message and encouraged a “wait and see” attitude among Republicans. If we had gotten most of the country vaccinated by June, and we could have done it. We might have managed to snuff out the spread of Delta before it got a foothold in the population. In early June 2021 fewer than 10% of the cases in the US were C-19D, by the end of July that number had grown to over 80%. We had 90 million people in this country who were unvaccinated and ripe hosts for the Delta variant. But, in June 2021 Republican officials at every level called for an end to masking and a complete reopening of businesses so that the “Summer Season” might be saved. Republican officials, like DeSantis, cynically pandered to Republican voters. Not because they didn’t understand the dangers, but because they hoped that most of the population had been infected in the first waves with asymptomatic infections. The “theory” circulating in Republican leadership circles and approved by Trump, was that the pandemic was over in America because most of the unvaccinated had probably had mild infections already. So, herd immunity had been reached. Remember all the claims about "herd immunity". Turned out Covid doesn't work that way. Republicans hoped that they could “have their cake” by pandering to their base, and “eat it too”. Because so many of their ignorant followers had been infected but didn’t know it, that another wave of Covid wouldn’t happen. **Once again, they were wrong.** Delta, as reported in a study in Nature, generates viral loads 1000 times greater in the infected than C-19A. It is probably one of the most infectious diseases ever. Right up there with measles. Oh, and Delta caused illness of greater severity and had a higher mortality rate than the “old Covid” that killed 600,000 people in the US in 2020. Plus, Delta was so virulent it caused “breakthrough” infections in the vaccinated. So now there is reservoir of asymptomatic, but infected, vaccinated people that the virus can hide and mutate in. Until it flares up again and again so that we have “Covid Season” annual death tolls of 100–150K. Republicans think we can live with that. Because it will be like "flu season" and 90% of the dying will be over 65.
Republicans are a big part of the problem, but democrats were not heroes. Both were serving capitalist interests.
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An unfortunate truth. The US has a large influence on global politics, but it's also only 4% of the global population. 88% of the world population lives in The Global South and most of those countries were not equipped to suppress something as contagious as COVID. If The US had done a better job containing it things would have been better - but COVID's high infectivity & quick establishment in many countries would have led to global entrenchment anyway. We could have slowed it right down, and we still could contain it better, but it is really hard to put the cat back in the bag once it's out.
It took long enough for this to be discussed on this subreddit.
It's been discussed here. This has been one of the few places where people have generally known and acknowledged the horrifying implications of the science for the longest time.
The rest of the world is way worse off then. The Europeans and Australians I know have had it many times.
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Well as long as it’s only us Americans! Gee whiz the rest of the world is pretty lucky
I woke up this morning with a sore throat and headache and tested positive for covid tonight. Is there anything I can do to lessen the chances of long term illness?
What are your vitamin D levels like? I had covid back in January and am lucky enough to live near the beach, so I soaked up some sunshine and went for a swim every day (socially distanced from others, I live in regional Australia). Not sure if it helped, but I recovered better than my first covid infection. Plenty of research to back it up too. Worth a try! Hope you recover well. [https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-treatment-does-your-vitamin-d-level-play-a-role](https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-treatment-does-your-vitamin-d-level-play-a-role)
There was a reddit user, /u/gkm6-4, who was saying all that at the very first years of pandemic, he/she was ridiculed everywhere, including this subreddit, but he/she was damn right.
The brain fog is deal - I nearly died from a serious case early on in Jan-Feb 2020, following a gross nonsensical misdiagnosis of "end-stage COPD" which I knew was nonsensical because I'd just literally sprinted a mile a month prior, speed skated 16 miles per day up to about a month prior to that. I struggled with long haul covid for nearly 30 months afterward and the brain fog was real. I turned to sudoku, wordscapes, memory games, and other brain teaser phone games to retrain my brain to think. It didn't help that my ADHD was unmanaged my whole life up to and all the way through COVID. Long haul also pushed my BP up from low-normal to ludicrous levels (223/185) and that took nearly two years to come down. It's a practically freaking miracle (and by miracle I mean dumb luck; there is no such thing as deity) I didn't end up with a stroke or organ failure. I now suffer from hypochondria as result of that misdiagnosis and slightly elevated BP which is in turn due to hypochondria and insomnia from ADHD meds.
The risk of long covid is what keeps me wearing my mask, and I do not care if I'm the only one doing it. I've been covid free this whole time. In fact, the only times I've been sick at all-with a cold, and once I might have had RSV-was from not wearing a mask. Not counting those stomach icks from gas station sushi 😀
I live in a house of 3 family members, including one young child. We have all been around it, use public transport, 2 of us were even isolated in a 1 bedroom house with an infected person for over a week. My office mate even had it. None of us are biologically related and none of us have had COVID. What are the chances of that?!? Our immune systems are not exceptional we do sometimes get sick and asthma and allergies are present. So strange, but also very grateful.
My daughter and I are Novids too. She has been around other kids with it at childcare, workmates and many friends have had it 2-3 times, we get PT regularly... I did get 3 x Novavax when I could, but even before that I was definitely exposed to it. My daughter is not yet 3, so has never had a vax (they aren't allowed in kids under 5 here unless high risk)... 🤷🏼♂️
Its very odd! I imagine there is a genetic component, but in our case very unlikely we all have the same genetic protective factor. Could it just be diet, exercise and a Vax schedule, surely not..
My brother, me, our dad and aunt are all novids (AFAIK). I’m not pushing my luck, so I still mask in stores, etc. and only eat at restaurants outdoors.
Anecdotal reports that supplementing with creatine helps with both fatigue and brain fog from Long COVID
All thanks to the Orange Shitgibbon
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Thankfully, so far I've been quite lucky. I don't feel quite as smart as I did back in February 2020, but when I have been ill, it's been noticeably worse than pre-Covid.
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Reading these comments is surreal. I haven't caught COVID yet, if I have I had no symptoms. I've certianly been around it, but have no cognitive decline. I'm a person that loves learning, and my ability to do math (huge part of my profession) has only gotten better.