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samwichse

Man, people need to get their zeros in order. Like, everywhere.


SnipahShot

The only 0 they have in order is IQ.


Ordinary-Sandpaper

And these people want guns?


trap________god

No these are the people trying to take them away


Time_Calligrapher_56

You are correct. Talking about giving away someone’s personal wealth and canceling student debts. These are dems. If you don’t want debt, don’t take loans.


[deleted]

I know we’re not going to pretend like it’s easy to get scholarships or FAFSA. You know this country is built so that in order to continue your education, you more than likely have to get a loan, right?


Time_Calligrapher_56

Some people work full time while going to school part time. It takes a little longer but you don’t go into debt and you get some life experience at the same time.


Time_Calligrapher_56

Or you can serve your country for 4 years, get paid to do it. Then have your education paid for once you’re out. You make it sound like loans and debt are your only option.


[deleted]

You shouldn’t have to overwork yourself for an education, and you shouldn’t have to join the damn military to get an education. University isn’t just cost of going to school, you have to take into account the textbooks and other additional things you may need. Also, it’s damn near impossible to get a job that pays you the right wages without a university diploma, or some type of trade. And there’s no way someone would graduate in a reasonable amount of time on minimum wage; you can’t expect people to stay in school for that amount of time.


Time_Calligrapher_56

You can get a hospitality job with tips that you will make way more than minimum wage until you can afford your plan. You shouldn’t expect to have things handed to you. Every teacher, faculty, janitor that works there gets paid to work there, and you think you should reap those benefits for free, or on the backs of taxpayers?


[deleted]

Do you think people tip well or tip at all? I’m just responding to your comment about “if you don’t want debt, don’t get loans” you expect people not to get a loan to finish college, and expect them to work a minimum wage job, or join the military. You don’t think people who want to further their education are taxpayers too? And no one said anything about free (even though we should get free education, as other countries do) I was saying to get a loan which you have to pay off anyway, so it’s DEFINITELY not free, lmao; it just gives you more time to be able to pay it off (even though interest tries to make that impossible), instead of overwhelming yourself like you said


Time_Calligrapher_56

Also you can start trade jobs in lower positions and learn a trade while you work, get promotions. I already pay for my life, why as a taxpayer should I chip in for yours?


Time_Calligrapher_56

When you take a loan, you agree and sign a contract to pay it back. That debt belongs to you alone.


[deleted]

And yes, trades are good and helpful, but you’re still expecting people to work and go to school, which is impossible for some people. There’s a reason why student is an occupation.


pininen

I love it when Americans say "You can just sign up to become a trained killer to avoid student debt, it's not that complicated".


Time_Calligrapher_56

You can sign up to be a a lot of things. Medical field, administrative, mechanics. I personally was an avionics technician, I worked on all the electrical components in jets. Edit- it’s a vocation too, I could work in the avionics field after getting out and make more than a lot of degrees would get you.


[deleted]

I think google will let you do math like 2 billion /3.5 thousand.


[deleted]

Use wolfram alpha


[deleted]

Maybe in her imaginary world $20 is enough to make a family 'very rich'


Karel_the_Enby

Well, it *can* buy many peanuts...


RefrigeratorContent2

Explain how


Karel_the_Enby

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.


stratit

How much can a peanut cost? $10?


Thinefieldisempty

I was already loving the Simpsons references and I lost it with this one. Thank you for the increase in laughter output.


vertigo72

Is that a Simpsons or an Arrested Development joke?


theforkofdamocles

Started Simpsons and finished AD.


BWChristopher86

You've never actually been to a grocery store have you?


originalbrowncoat

Let’s go crazy Broadway style!


JonchikPonchik

Money buys goods. Peanuts are cheap goods. Many peanuts for 20 bucks


[deleted]

What about peanutcoin


JonchikPonchik

Yes and no. While currently 1 peanut coin buys almost 15.6 more peanuts per coin, you have to remember how truly volatile the coin is. Or have you forgotten the Great Pean depression. At that point the coin was almost worthless. So it's up to you to decide whether or not the peanut coin is worth it.


[deleted]

The great pean depression? Sounds like a massive cock up to me.


baconit4eva

You go into a peanut store and say give me as many peanuts that $20 will buy.


Detriumph

Surely it can't be that simple?!


Prodigal_Malafide

It is, but don't call me Shirley.


chairplanet

What a time to be alive!


baconit4eva

It costs peanuts for peanuts.


redCasObserver

There are peanut stores?


baconit4eva

Where do you think Planters bought Mr. Peanut?


[deleted]

Peanut slavery.


Light_Silent

Half a peanut


baconit4eva

A pea or a nut?


Light_Silent

A nut is $50/hr


[deleted]

What about deez nuts?


Hullfire00

You say “give me all the peanuts you have”. Then correct the store clerk because you think he thinks you said “give you lots of peanuts”, when you actually said “give me all the peanuts you have”.


gingertek

#THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS


[deleted]

It is indeed.


vizthex

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.


[deleted]

Which can be exchanged for money.


[deleted]

That's 20 peanuts.


[deleted]

"You pay $1 a peanut?" -Mimi K.


Corbeanooo

Who's your peanut guy? I think you need a new peanut guy


Ellefire

20 bucks is 20 bucks


tygerbrees

Not at today’s prices


PM___ME

Oh look at Mr Fancy Pants over here with twenty whole dollars


AnActualProfessor

Well according to capitalists, that's enough money to pull a family out of poverty for years!


ReasonSin

We’ll wealth should be measured in the number of doughnuts one can purchase


[deleted]

So, about a baker's dozen of doughnuts?


PraiseChrist420

It’s undeniably enough to make 20 families very rich though! And it probably did!


Teemo20102001

Its the same math as bezos giving 1 billion to every person in the world. That leaves him with 180 billion - 7 billion = 173 billion left.


IknowKarazy

Just so I know if I’m dumb: 2.62 Billion is the same as 2620 million? So divided among 100 million families is the same as 2620 / 100? So $26.20


Ekkeko84

Yes, 2.62 billion is the same as 2620 millions and $ 26.20 per family is also correct.


[deleted]

Didn’t a billion once mean a million million?


Ekkeko84

It does, where the long numbers system is used (not in the US) We use it in Argentina, for instance. So, here a billion is a million millions, a trillion is a million billions and so on. It's not "British" vs. "American" numbers, but it's still a good comparison. Lol!!


BiffSlick

In UK or something… stoopid Limeys


[deleted]

Oi watchit Yank!


Last-of-the-billys

Correct her math is 2620 million / 100 million = 26.2 million. They do the numbers but forget the words cancel each other as well.


kRkthOr

It's just that the way we usually work with words is by ignoring them. For example, 30 sheep divided by 2 is: take away the sheep, do 30 / 2 = 15, put the sheep back in, 15 sheep. So people go: $2,620 million, take away the million and the $, 2620/130 = 20.15, put the million and $ back in, $20.15 million. [This isn't the first time it happened](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6egeUxIEQnM), and it sure won't be the last.


jonolucerne

Congratulations! You are smarter than an average anti-capitalist Twitter user!


Sm7__

Yeah bro $21 for each family is so rich


THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR

Before taxes too


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Sm7__

I rounded up because im generous :)


ohthisistoohard

Fair enough.


Mission_Progress_674

When have capitalists ever been known for their generosity?


BetterKev

When it is performative, like rounding up a dollar, once.


wiseoldllamaman2

I mean, if you have enough of anything to give something to *every family in America* you probably have too much of it.


SadAdeptness6287

It depends on who’s number you use for the Households. 100 million gives u 26 dollars, 130 million gives you 20.


kevincox_ca

This is a pretty common mistake to make. Matt Parker from Stand-up Maths made a pretty good guess how it happens https://youtu.be/6egeUxIEQnM


Xerxes42424242

‘The math I am familiar with’ just shows a major lack of understanding of what math is


AnActualProfessor

Well in the US 1 billion is 1 thousand millions, but in the UK 1 billion is 1 million millions. So 2.62 billion would be 2,620,000 million, which is roughly $20,000 per household.


Strong_Tiger3000

That's just not true, no one in the uk accepts 1 billion as 1 million millions


3FootDuck

[Incorrect](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion)


dackasaurus

Your link says one thousand millions is "now the meaning in all English dialects." So what was incorrect?


AnActualProfessor

One might even say *confidently incorrect*.


SadAdeptness6287

Expect the link says that UK officially changed to the 1 thousand million meaning in 1974….


AnActualProfessor

That's just the way the ministers use it; a billion is still a million million and a thousand million is called a milliard (although even this depends on where you are and who you're with).


Strong_Tiger3000

Reading comprehension isn't your strongest suit i see


Xerxes42424242

That’s not how words, or Europe, works


justtheentiredick

$20 is $20 My family is now rich.


[deleted]

I love the “which is enough to make all 130 million households very rich” Ma’am even if you were doing the math right, a single $100,000 payment will not make you rich in the US, most places you can’t even buy a decent house for that and some places that’s not even enough for a down payment


IknowKarazy

I’d consider 100k to be a life changing amount of money, but certainly not “rich”.


PacificShoreGuy

That could buy me almost 1/15th of the median house in my city.


th3empirial

Where did you get 100,000 from?


[deleted]

“...he could have given every American family $100,000...”


th3empirial

He could give every family like $20


[deleted]

Did you even read my comment? >> Ma’am even if you were doing the math right


th3empirial

If she did the math right, it would be like 20 bucks


[deleted]

I know that and it has already been made clear by countless other comments in this post- that’s not what my comment is about.


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wasabiEatingMoonMan

Holy fuck. Give up now lmao. They’re not disputing that the actual figure is $20. They’re saying _even_ if the actual figure was $100k the point in the tweets doesn’t stand.


[deleted]

They’re a troll, no way any person on this planet is that stupid


th3empirial

The actual figure is not $20. But it’s very close


Resonance95

Jesus Christ you're dense haha


th3empirial

Certainly I have a higher density than a $20 bill, I can tell you that much


DarkMission7627

I don't why people hate on this troll I thought it was fire


1000bctrades

The original tweet and that reply are obvious satire of the news hosts that made this same mathematical error on a network broadcast. It was all over Twitter when it happened. This is a great callback.


flomatable

I dunno, 20 dollars is 20 dollars


fin375

So did she ever do the math because she doesn’t have an answer for how much each person would get? Did she just take the numbers and only do surface level reasoning?


NaturalWitchcraft

Where the fuck is my $20?!


SadAdeptness6287

*20 dollars split between all the members of your households


NaturalWitchcraft

Do the cats get a share?


illQualmOnYourFace

$2.62B divided by 130M is twenty bones and change, for anyone wondering. She wasn't even in left field. She was on the other side of the goddamn country.


MistressFuzzylegs

Maybe if you win the lottery with it?


Dynasuarez-Wrecks

dang $20 what would i ever do with all that cheddar?


THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR

I’d buy about 2lbs of chicken breasts


[deleted]

regarding the canceling debt part, I doubt that elon musk is a trillionaire


TheAtlanticGuy

By far my favorite common math mistake is when people treat "million" and "billion" like they're units. It pops up so often for some reason.


PM_ME_2_TRUTHS_1_LIE

I mean they kinda are like units. It’s all relative.


TheAtlanticGuy

Yeah I worded that poorly. I meant that people disregard them like they're dividing distances or something, resulting in things like people thinking Obamacare has enough in the budget to give everyone a million dollars.


wasabiEatingMoonMan

I mean if they treat them as units they’d still get the correct answer because units would cancel. They just don’t know basic maths and that’s a sufficient explanation for this.


Snazz__

They are units?


Eigenspan

Outside of the failures to do the most basic mathematics: 1) why the hell is it Elons responsibility to gove everyone his money? 2) if every family in the US has tens or hundreds of millions of dollars then groceries are going to start costing hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. How are people so ignorant and self entitled at the same time?


Detriumph

>why the hell is it Elons responsibility to gove everyone his money? It just seems like it would be a nice thing to do for Elon to spend his money in a way that helps people, instead of in a way that keeps people poor. See the millions he spends on anti-union activities just to keep more profits for himself.


RobertK995

>*It just seems like it would be a nice thing to do for Elon to spend his money in a way that helps people,* In Elon's mind, getting humans to Mars and making electric cars IS helping people. Do you disagree?


Detriumph

I do. He's not doing it out of his love of humanity, that's for daaaaaamn sure.


Aaron_Hamm

Have you ever listened to him talk about it?


Detriumph

There are no ethical or moral billionaires.


Aaron_Hamm

Irrelevant, but I'll take that as an implicit admission that you haven't and are just following your crowd. Anyways, have fun on your conspiracy subreddits...


kevmaster200

I think I see where you're going. A good villain always thinks they're doing the right thing.


kRkthOr

Yes. It didn't change my view of why he's doing what he's doing lmao What now?


AnActualProfessor

>In Elon's mind, getting humans to Mars and making electric cars IS helping people. But Elon isn't doing that. Elon is enriching himself by gatekeeping other people's intellectual achievements. The only thing Elon ever patented was a way to make his competitors' electric cars worse (it was a special plastic nub that would make it so that Tesla charging stations could not charge non-Tesla cars). Every component of every SpaceX project was developed by publjcly funded research; Elon privatized that research so no one else could use it and we would have to pay his obscene profit margins to access it. Elon is a dick.


Resonance95

1) he should'nt, but if the math were right it would certainly be a thought provoking idea. 2) that is not in any way hoe prices work bruv. Prices would inflate, sure, but not in a way that would even hurt the average person compared to their relative gain.


anus-lupus

no. poors need to exist so I can still afford burger meat at the supermarket. /s


marinemashup

Because Elon is such an incredibly great guy


Eigenspan

Not trying to defend him or anything I couldn’t care less about Elon himself, just so weird how everyone jumps to he could have done this for me instead of doing what he wants with his money.


tenpoundpom

its the same whenever there's some article about space missions or scientific work, everyone just goes to "why are we spending time and money on this when there's people starving in africa", as if all our resources should go toward solving a single problem, and as if people don't have freedom to choose what to do with their own lives...


andytagonist

Logic & reasoning apparently get downvotes on Reddit.


Resonance95

1) he should'nt, but if the math were right it would certainly be a thought provoking idea. 2) that is not in any way how prices work bruv. Prices would inflate, sure, but not in a way that would even hurt the average person compared to their relative gain.


Knave7575

That is only true if the US produced 100% of the goods in the world. Since they do not, the standard of living of most Americans would increase dramatically if they were all given a million bucks that came from some rich guy (so fewer inflation concerns)


UCDC

TL:DR - government funded oligarch wasted a lot of money on his personal enrichment when that money could've alleviated a lot of crippling financial stressors.


sal-ami

I am not gay but 20 dollars is 20 dollars


MistaCharisma

Actually this looks like we're seeing confusion between the American billion and the British billion. American: 1 Billion = 1 *Thousand* Million, or 1,000,000,000 British: 1 Billion = 1 *Million* Million, or 1,000,000,000,000 (*an American Trillion*). This makes a *Huge* difference in how you calculate his wealth. His net worth of ~200 Billion ^(*American*) only comes to 0.2 Billion ^(*British*). If we were measuring his worth in British Billions he'd have ~200 *Trillion* ^(*American*), which would mean giving $100,000 to every American family would be firmly within his capabilities, costing ~13 Trillion ^(*American*). I don't know what the student debt is currently sitting at, but if it's less that ~180 Trillion ^(*American*) then he's be able to do that too. Of course this is all a moot point since his worth is measured in American Billions, not British Billions, but that's probably where the confusion is coming from.


THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR

So you’re telling me the British have other things wrong besides putting Us on random words?


MistaCharisma

>besides putting Us on random words? I don't know what that part means, but if anyone made this confusing it's the Americans, since the British system is older, and the numbers were named using the British system. Bi = 2, Billion = Million^2 Tri = 3, Trillion = Million^3 Quad = 4, Quadrillion = Million^4 Having said that, there are more than 2 systems used in the world, but in the English speaking world these are the main (*only?*) systems of numbering. The Chinese and I think Germans and Indians (*and probably others*) have their own systems.


kevmaster200

So a British trillion is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000? Also he meant U's, like color vs colour and whatnot. Took me a second to realize what he was talking about, thinking maybe there was a royal Us :P


MistaCharisma

>So a British trillion is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000? Yup. >Also he meant U's, like color vs colour and whatnot. Oh good catch. Yeah I totally didn't get that, but now that I've seen it it seems obvious =P


kRkthOr

> Of course this is all a moot point since his worth is measured in American Billions No, it's a moot point because she literally says, in the Tweet: > 1 billion/1 million = 1000 Also most British today (and the rest of the world) use 1000 million for a billion.


Laez

That isn't what is going on here since she define a billion as 1000 million in the tweet.


tenpoundpom

how tf did she get that far, and then not bother to calculate that 2620/130 is literally 20 bucks each...


fozziemon

$20 bucks? You SOB, I’m in.


Adeum1

$26 is very rich


AdamTheD

r/confidentlyinccorect user understand satire challenge (IMPOSSIBLE EDITION)


dericandajax

20 bucks?! I'm retiring tomorrow.


[deleted]

Assume every word is right, then that means even the very rich can't pay student debt.


WilliamIsted

Fun fact: The old British billion was equal to a million million (1,000,000,000,000) while American billion is a thousand million (1,000,000,000).


[deleted]

Everyone gets $10


kinkcurious12

Also there aren’t 100 million families in the US. Not by a longshot


albireorocket

They’re getting confused between long scale and short scale. I know. It’s annoying that different number scales even exist.


Carnator369

Yes $20.15 US totally makes you rich... if you are in Russia maybe.


helladamnleet

$7.96/per person is the correct math for anyone wondering. The equation is 2,620,000,000 / 329,500,000 for anyone wondering.


[deleted]

gimme my $20


[deleted]

I mean by that logic any money you spend at any point could've gone to something. Like sure, the hypothetical $100 dollars you've hypothetically spent could've bought like 50 4 piece mcdonalds chicken nugget meals for homeless people, but you as a person are allowed to enjoy your money even if it's not entirely the most charitable spending of it.


Oddity46

"Very rich" = $20


[deleted]

All this is great until everybody gets a ton of money and a bottle of Pepsi is suddenly $1,000.


PraiseChrist420

I mean if your definition of very rich is $20 she’s right


JezzCrist

Hers your 20$, don’t spend it in one go Maybe it is very rich from her POV


grilldcheese2

I'm guessing she did not accumulate any student debt while becoming familiar with that math.


Temporary-Good9696

Why are people so bad with math when it comes to this kind of thing? Do they just want to believe that it could really be so simple?


Bupod

This is why scientific notation is convenient for working with very large numbers. Division and multiplication are reduced to simple addition and subtraction of exponents. 1.00x10^(9) / 1.00x10^(6) = 1.00x10^(3) In that example, all you had to do was 9 - 6 = 3. Very easy. 2.62x10^(9) / 1.30x10^(8) = 2.02x10^(1) So that was a little bit more complex, but not much. You have to divide 2.62 by 1.30, and then also subtract exponents. You would find that 2.62 billion dollars yields about $20.20 per household. If you ever wonder why scientific notation was used in science class, that is why: Science often has to deal with extremely large or extremely small numbers. Scientific notation makes it easier to work with them and reduces errors that are off by several orders of magnitude (like you see above).


Top-Emu-5848

In her profile pick she looks so smart


Different-Cloud-842

What kind of math did she learn? Either some magic math or 20 dollars make you rich over there in the states.


[deleted]

Ah yes, $20.15 per household will fix everyone's problems


OGD2068

I could buy a 12 pack of craft beer


[deleted]

beer solves all problems


maraxusofvladd

I'm glad I'm bad math. So geniuses like this can save the world, lol


[deleted]

[https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2.62+billion+%2F+130+million](https://imgur.com/5tR2ePb) Work smarter, not harder...