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Congress has been notified of U.S. biological disease testing facilities in the Ukraine, which were secretly authorized by Congress and then developed by Anthony Fauci who was given a significant pay increase to conduct the research. The law permitted the creation of 12 such facilities around the world outside of the U.S. which has a ban on such testing. During Congressional hearings, actors in this program were forced to admit the existence of these facilities which include locations in Wuhan China, and at least two facilities in Ukraine.
lol this actually happened to me last week. Some meth head came up to our worksite and asked if we had Milwaukee battery’s stolen from us, then said he knew where they were so he would get them.
Apparently he sent one of his minions to get him a battery from a store (yea sure bud) she found a way into the building and took our pack charger.
He brought it back and my boss gave him 200$. Probably smoked it all away
You're the one who mentioned, so perhaps you do. You like to talk about people that do or have drugs like you know something when you don't, so there's that.
You're trying to call a bunch of people you have never met crackheads. It seems more like you're projecting. Go put your "hi my name is" name tag on and get to your meeting, bud.
Politicians don't read what they vote for, and it's not uncommon for vaguely written legislation to get added to a larger, more important bill. One of the reasons for the Congressional hearings was to find out how these labs became legalized. Congress approved 'gain of function' without even knowing what it is.
Ukraine has zero bsl-4 labs inside ots country.
There are currently 13 operational or planned BSL-4 facilities within the United States of America
Ukraine has 1 bsl-3 labs in Odessa.
1300 bsl-3 labs worldwide working alongside America's who has 200 bsl-3 inside our country.
you can create these pathogens in labs that are not certified with certain safety standard and as we saw in wuhan, the biosafety level means nothing if they don't stick to the process and things get out.
Exactly and just about every country has some sort of a bioresreach facility. But yes, if we wanna go into better oversight and security for a bioresreach facility, I'm all for it.
But to the main claim of this post and why it's stupid.
Ukraine's only bsl-3 (which used to be a former ussr one, I'd have to double check) is in Odessa, which Russia has bombed and droned. If they were really worried about "bioweapons," hitting the buildings where the pathogens are stored sounds like an incredibly bad idea.
Why would the US open a bioweapons research facility in China. Of all places. Is the NWO really that far along with their nefarious plans for world domination? As for the rest, having research facilities located in foreign countries exempts the program from US law entirely, and appears to be the standard method. Gitmo? I rest my case.
I have a pretty good imagination, but I'm not emotionally prepared to consider all of the possibilities for corruption in places with minimal oversight.
That seems a little extreme. Can't they be happy with murdering all the leftists, jews, and LGBT? I guess the darkies have to go too, so maybe you're on to something.
I remember in an ask Reddit someone that claimed to work for the US government. Said things are barely held together with essentially gum and paper clips. Everyone is always running around trying to make things work and last for another day. Honestly that’s how the health care system is no plans are truly set in stone we stop things from falling apart day by day
Why not China, they gave complete control over their surveillance state, they've been looking time allies of the US, they share the same, they have experience in developing shady stuff, they have laws condusive to developing internationally frowned upon technology.
That goes against our history.
We need to differentiate between the propaganda given to us in MSM and the reality of backroom deals between US officials, corporations and Chinese counterparts.
We literally borrow billions of dollars from China and owe them an astronomical amount.
Our whole economy is based on China. In fact, we literally and deliberately *gave* China our industries and economy.
That's just the obvious stuff. Research all the other meetings and deals that we know about publicly.
It's true that the US Government exported a *lot* of manufacturing (and culture), with the intent of squeezing domestic labor out of the profiting. However the debt is a double-edged sword for the US. Sure we have to keep servicing the debt payments, but if the US ever defaults for whatever reason, it will cut China deeply. Any collaboration with China in relation to bioweapons research could only ever be a complete shitshow. Unless the Chinese Freemasons are in on it, and then I could see something happening.
Some famous guy is quoted for saying a small loan is the person's problem, a large loan is the banks problem 😂
Anyways, I agree. But at the end of the day, the loans are the peoples problem. The officials and TPTB only benefit, whether they're skimming on the side or directly receiving interest. No matter what happens, they won't lose a cent. If the economy disappears overnight, they are all rich and have everything they want. It's us who get suckered
The labs were not advertised as bioweapon development labs. They were marketed as research labs to develop vaccines against known bioweapons. China has access to bioweapon agents that most other countries have banned. Nobody knew that the U.S. was using them to develop new bioweapons that come with a controlled pre-made antidote.
RDNA, which is incorrectly considered a vaccine as used for Covid19. It wasn't a coincidence that the Covid19 RDNA vaccine existed before the outbreak.
What are you talking about? There are a ton of vaccines for bacteria - DPT vaccines (tetanus, whooping cough,) typhoid, HIB vaccines (meningitis,) and pneumococcal pneumonia just off the top of my head are all vaccines for bacterial infections.
>" Is the NWO really that far along with their nefarious plans for world domination?
If you want your answer look at what was going on around the globe (particularly the east)in the in the 19th century and the start of the 20th century.
Also 19th century most of this western expansion was carried out by the British. The start of the 20th century was Americas turn to be the imperialist puppet nation.
Also check out root reform (Elihu root nobel prize winner hilariously for international relations) this little piece helped turn our military into the global monstrosity it is today. Our purpose was always to be a puppet nation (1789 ratification) for global westernization.
I think if we were creating a mega pandemic in a Ukrainian lab we probably burned all evidence and relocated production +18 months ago. So it’s probably not a real concern for the people of Russia.
Do y’all remember seeing that video soon after the Ukraine Russ war there was a Ukrainian lady on the news I forget her name and position but she reported that the Ukrainian army has been finding these US owned bioweapons labs. And I think there was a few of them iirc. The video was in Ukrainian and translated but that was the first and only time I heard about it.
Wish I knew a way to find it. But I really believe this to be true.
Perhaps you are recalling the Victoria Nuland testimony?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V9-eTw6tzY&t=4s&ab\_channel=ImpressiveMedia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V9-eTw6tzY&t=4s&ab_channel=ImpressiveMedia)
Thanks for sharing!
But no, if I recall right this lady was standing at a podium, it looked like a spot in front of people/reporters, can’t remember if it was inside or outside, I wanna say the lady was shortish and pretty plump?
Ukraine has zero bsl-4 labs inside its country.
There are currently 13 operational or planned BSL-4 facilities within the United States of America
Ukraine has 1 bsl-3 lab in Odessa.
1300 bsl-3 labs worldwide working alongside America's who has 200 bsl-3 inside our country.
The point is that doing shit in BSL-4 labs is very expensive and slow, which is why we fund labs in countries with lax regulations to do it cheaper/faster.
i'm sure they are underground like all the massive DUMB networks everyone seems to build. then they just activate the fail-safe (low yield nuclear device or some other containment measure) if something escapes. or i've been watching too many zombie movies. but movies tend to reflect reality a bit.
Conspiracy people riding Russia’s D is something I still can’t comprehend. Distrust the US government but believes another one? Lol cognitive dissonance at its finest.
>Conspiracy people riding Russia’s D is something I still can’t comprehend.
I know, *he's a literal KGB agent* and they happily swallow whatever he puts in their mouth.
Putin is the real life version of the boogeyman that conservatives and conspiracy theorists insist the democrats are. And yet he gets treated with kid gloves in comparison.
Putin hates the West and is an enemy of the US. Everything he says and does is done with the intent to make the US weaker. He openly jails and murders his opponents. Putin worked for the KGB, became the director of the FSB and later became president and made it a new rule that the FSB is entirely under his control. Russia is a dictatorship where you’re jailed just for talking shit about Putin or even for holding blank signs at protests. Russia is actively invading another country.
And yet there are people who will side with Putin just because he’s saying what they want to hear.
Piggybacking on your comment, Putin managed to effectively "de-politicize" the entire Russian population. Putin created an entire political system that behaves (less blatantly so prior to 2014) as if it's a multi-party democracy, but in reality is just a facade. That in of itself isn't unique in autocracies, but the way in which he set literally everything up while annihilating every last vestige of legitimate opposition is just astoundingly evil. Doesn't matter who the opposition was, if they couldn't be controlled by Putin and integrated within the Russian state, they were destroyed.
In otherwords, Russian politics are a performative act that the population knows is false, and Putin knows that the people know, but at this point in time most Russians have so thoroughly been conditioned to accept it that they just go along with the process.
From what I've read of the Russian perspective over the last few years, they'd rather have a kleptocratic fake democracy than have to endure the 1990s again. Even though Putin has basically breached the social contract he made with the Russian people since 2014-2022 invasion, in their eyes, its preferable to the post-soviet era.
It’s actually not about any Russian D at this point… it’s the black and white fact that there are in fact US Biolabs operating in Ukraine. Isn’t it a little funny how many billions we keep sending? Protection that us US tax payers are sending while our own country declines rapidly.
By being more credible? [Russia said they weren't invading Ukraine.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-17/russia-tells-u-s-no-ukraine-invasion-planned-tass-says&ved=2ahUKEwjCqZng6ZWDAxX5RzABHY82A58QFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0rSdFG7oskrMwOv4CEZb2Z) US said they were.
Guess how that turned out?
Now Russia is fighting a proxy war with the US. Everything both say is questionable.
The US is just as bad as Russia and you can't argue with that one. They put their nose in everyone's business. I seem to remember them using an excuse of there being weapons of mass destruction as an excuse to go an invade a country and it turned out to be bullshit.
You’re arguing with people who either have given their complete trust to their government or are themselves affiliated. Russia bad, US good. Reddit is not a place for critical thinkers or deep conversation.
Russia made like 6 different false flag events to try to justify their invasion of Ukraine while denying the build up of troops along the Ukraine border. They've continued to come up with new and different lies to keep their people from rejecting the invasion. But here you, going must be true...
You need to update your crappy response, CNN was bought by a right wing loon and is less credible than its corporatism was before.
But no, I saw the fucking Russian propaganda videos myself. They were obvious plants. Random bomb found under a park bench?
When the US media actually admits, instead of covers up, that the US has been putting up biolabs multiple countries then maybe they'll have more credibility. US media straight up pretends it doesn't happen.
So then the Azov Battalion doesn't count even though they were Swastikas. These are actual nazis. Not like when you dont like a conservatories opinion about taxes or abortion.
[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment) https://www.sott.net/article/469073-Not-worth-your-sympathy-The-story-of-Ukraines-neo-Nazi-Azov-battalion?ysclid=lq8t4qi19v277005654
You're getting your alternate worlds mixed up. Did you dial in the Tau axis to the correct value? Because in this alternate world, it's hobbits, goblins, orcs, sorcerers, and of course men. At least the dragons were hunted to extinction, so that's a win. You probably hooked in to the local net without checking outside.
Even if this was credible, it's important to note that Russia is probably also doing similar expirements in other countries. Blaming one another is something both of these two counties have done consistently to distract their people from their mistake or potentially catastrophic initiatives.
You know those bilans are à consequence of the Budapest Memorandum that Russia signed. Ukraine gave back it's nuclear weapons, but man forget the soviet bioweapons programms. Its publicly available information: search for Biological Threat Reduction Program on Google. Furthermore it was visited by Zelensky in April 2020 and reported in the press, https://www.unian.ua/war/10954781-zelenskiy-pribuv-na-donbas-inspektuye-nametove-mistechko-dlya-hvorih-na-covid-19-fotoreportazh.html
Your incapacity of finding informations that are freely and publicly available is not a proof of a secret conspiracy, it just shows that you're incapable of doing a 30s Google search...
https://x.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1680869416865546240?s=20
Russians posing with the wreckage just after shooting it down, this is before they realised theyd shot down a civilian airliner not a ukrainian fighter plane. Whoops
Every country does its not just Russia. The USA killed one of their own presidents. Set up Afghanistan then fought them I could go on but I don't think I need to. In this case there is no lesser evil all equally evil
But this conversation isn't about America. Great whataboutism though. The US isn't invading Mexico under false pretenses and waging a brutal and callous war of aggression. The US doesn't have its leaders continually threatening its rivals with literal nuclear war every 0.1 seconds.
As it was said before, Russia lies about everything, all the time. Russia engaged in direct interference in western nations' democratic processes. Russia has and is currently waging complex social media campaigns to influence western audiences and spread false information, using the exact same talking points as yourself-ie whataboutism, soft denial, etc.
What do you mean the USA throws its weight around more than anyone in the world including China and China always has something to say. The USA sticks its nose into every war even when it has nothing to do with them. Although I do get that this post isn't about the USA originally the bottom line is the USA is and has been the most war hungry country in the whole world for a very long time now and pretending they aren't is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The USA manipulates situations anywhere and everywhere all the time. You think Russia is the bad guy I'm here to tell you that there are bigger bad guys in the game and USA is the main culprit.
Maybe such wouldn't be needed if there wasn't an imperialistic, autocratic state with a penchant for attacking its smaller neighbors that, again, continually threatens to invade the West and nuke western countries? This has NOTHING to do with America. Again, this is about Russia. Whatever faults American foreign policy has do not provide justification for Russia invading Ukraine and committing acts of systemic oppression, genocide, looting, torture etc.
>You think Russia is the bad guy I'm here to tell you that there are bigger bad guys in the game and USA is the main culprit.
Russia started the largest conflict in Europe since the world wars under false pretenses, solely for the reason of conquering Ukraine+Moldova and fulfilling Putin's delusion of rebuilding "historical" Russia and its empire. Until Americs tops that I don't really see the merit to your argument
This is the ukrainian biolabs bullshit all over again from 2 yrs back that tucker and greenwald were spreading when the war started. How do right wingers fall for this guys bullshit 🤦🏿♂️
I've been replying on this subreddit recently and engaging whenever the topic of Ukraine comes up. If you look at a lot of the comments, it's literally the exact same talking points and, most of the time, the same exact language used by the Russian government. If you further look at a lot of the users, their comment history is almost solely about this topic, and they seem to engage with the same users throughout different posts.
Going out on a limb here to say that 90% of the users offering pro-russian or "neutral" perspectives are actual Russian bots. The 10% that are real humans have been on this subreddit for several years now, being fed narratives by Russians and just eating it all the fuck up.
Let's not forget that the now deceased hot dog vendor turned mercenary leader/oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin operated a clandestine large-scale trolling operation starting in 2016 to influence western audiences. Not to mention hacking and interfering in our political processes. Now it seems that the Russian GRU has assumed control over Russia's troll farms
There's a conspiracy right in front of them but they Bury their heads in the sand and refuse to see it.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/945204/giulianis-hunter-biden-material-apparently-being-sold-ukraine-18-months-ago
"Explicit photos and emails purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden were circulating in Ukraine last year at the same time that Rudy Giuliani was searching for dirt there on former Vice President Joe Biden,"
In January, the U.S. cybersecurity firm Area 1 reported that Russia's GRU military hackers had broken into the computer systems of Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden worked for. Selling pilfered private information is so commonplace in Ukraine now it's the "national sport," said Igor Novikov, a former adviser to Ukraine's president,
One of the people Giuliani worked with, Andrii Derkach, has been identified by the U.S. government as an "active Russian agent."
Prigz was a mass murderer but there were moments he did spit facts about russia that putin wanted kept quiet. He openly admitted to interfering in our elections and was indicted for it but they all say it was just a hoax
lol. they said ukraine has 32 bio labs. more then the entire world put together, yet even though russia has occupied over 20% of Ukraine's land they havent found 1 lab yet. people who believe this conspiracy are fools
https://youtu.be/ydSf57SRtcQ
It's not a conspiracy theory that the US has/had biolabs in ukraine.
Since nothing's come of them to date I also wouldn't be too worried about them unless something dramatic changes
thx. But she didn‘t say anything new. There are biolabs all over the world. Wuhan anyone? Are there a bunch of secret ones too? Probably, but I guess any bigger power, including north korea, russia or china probably has one.
Has anyone else noticed that the up and down votes are all messed up in this thread? It's like people are showing up and only voting on comments with certain words in them. This shit has gotta be bot driven.
Anyone want an “explain like I’m 5” on why NATO is good for Earth, including the ones who think their country should lose against Russia or reject NATO?
https://youtu.be/IR7ePHJNihM?si=7vJJVZag2T4DSOMr
NATO IS BAKED IN. Stop trying to convince Americans it’s bad for us thru Trumpism. If you succeed, it’ll end badly for you just as it would us, just as it would everyone. No one with a young child wants to live in a world where that descendant suffers more than he/she needs to. No matter how much you hate the USA, NATO is better world peace than your dictator tells you they can do. Otherwise they would have done it by now since NATO is newer than the dictatorship you’re being paid to shill for. If some how your dictator offers a better plan, planet fucking earth will adopt it. Until then, try to find a better job.
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Congress has been notified of U.S. biological disease testing facilities in the Ukraine, which were secretly authorized by Congress and then developed by Anthony Fauci who was given a significant pay increase to conduct the research. The law permitted the creation of 12 such facilities around the world outside of the U.S. which has a ban on such testing. During Congressional hearings, actors in this program were forced to admit the existence of these facilities which include locations in Wuhan China, and at least two facilities in Ukraine.
Why would Congress need to be notified of something they authorized?
You ever hear the line about how a crackhead will steal from you and then help you look for your stolen stuff. Same energy.
lol this actually happened to me last week. Some meth head came up to our worksite and asked if we had Milwaukee battery’s stolen from us, then said he knew where they were so he would get them. Apparently he sent one of his minions to get him a battery from a store (yea sure bud) she found a way into the building and took our pack charger. He brought it back and my boss gave him 200$. Probably smoked it all away
Kind of like you right?
What does that mean? I don’t smoke crack or steal so I’m at a loss here.
Sounds like something a Crack stealer would say
I mean who wouldn't steal crack? Don't mean they're not a trustworthy human...
You're the one who mentioned, so perhaps you do. You like to talk about people that do or have drugs like you know something when you don't, so there's that.
Nobody is coming for your crack. Let the pipe cool down, bud
You mean your pipe? Cause you like talking about drugs.
You're trying to call a bunch of people you have never met crackheads. It seems more like you're projecting. Go put your "hi my name is" name tag on and get to your meeting, bud.
No you are
Politicians don't read what they vote for, and it's not uncommon for vaguely written legislation to get added to a larger, more important bill. One of the reasons for the Congressional hearings was to find out how these labs became legalized. Congress approved 'gain of function' without even knowing what it is.
For starters, the people in congress change over time (although not enough for most people's liking).
Because we elect a new congress pretty regularly.
Pentagon doesn’t report to the Congress! They can do whatever they want and labeled TOP SECRET!
Ukraine has zero bsl-4 labs inside ots country. There are currently 13 operational or planned BSL-4 facilities within the United States of America Ukraine has 1 bsl-3 labs in Odessa. 1300 bsl-3 labs worldwide working alongside America's who has 200 bsl-3 inside our country.
you can create these pathogens in labs that are not certified with certain safety standard and as we saw in wuhan, the biosafety level means nothing if they don't stick to the process and things get out.
Exactly and just about every country has some sort of a bioresreach facility. But yes, if we wanna go into better oversight and security for a bioresreach facility, I'm all for it. But to the main claim of this post and why it's stupid. Ukraine's only bsl-3 (which used to be a former ussr one, I'd have to double check) is in Odessa, which Russia has bombed and droned. If they were really worried about "bioweapons," hitting the buildings where the pathogens are stored sounds like an incredibly bad idea.
Doesn’t need to be added to a list to draw attention to itself.
Why would the US open a bioweapons research facility in China. Of all places. Is the NWO really that far along with their nefarious plans for world domination? As for the rest, having research facilities located in foreign countries exempts the program from US law entirely, and appears to be the standard method. Gitmo? I rest my case.
> Is the NWO really that far along with their nefarious plans for world domination? Yes.
I'd say we have a high risk of a Zombie Apocalypse within the next fifty years, and it just might be due to the mismanagement of the NWO Agenda.
This is a feature not a bug.
Speaking of features, have the zombies in zombie films been getting more aggressive lately or what?
That world war Z movie they were off the hook and super unrealistic its been bad since then.
Resident Evil did fast Zombies first.
Suddenly, that “Zuckerbunker” in Hawaii doesn’t seem so crazy…
Pfft. The US Navy, in the form of a submarine crew, will waltz in and take everything he has.
Next 50?... Next 3-5yrs top. Their timeline is Great reset before 2030 Order through chaos.
Come on. Zombies don't move that quickly.
Things really aren’t as organized as we may think.. Think greed, Dr. Victor Frankenstein, and minimal oversight
I have a pretty good imagination, but I'm not emotionally prepared to consider all of the possibilities for corruption in places with minimal oversight.
They're all on the same side. And the goal is to cull 95 of the worlds population
That seems a little extreme. Can't they be happy with murdering all the leftists, jews, and LGBT? I guess the darkies have to go too, so maybe you're on to something.
I remember in an ask Reddit someone that claimed to work for the US government. Said things are barely held together with essentially gum and paper clips. Everyone is always running around trying to make things work and last for another day. Honestly that’s how the health care system is no plans are truly set in stone we stop things from falling apart day by day
Why not China, they gave complete control over their surveillance state, they've been looking time allies of the US, they share the same, they have experience in developing shady stuff, they have laws condusive to developing internationally frowned upon technology.
That makes no sense. China wants to make a move on Taiwan and the US has to support Taiwan. They have no reason to collaborate with China.
That goes against our history. We need to differentiate between the propaganda given to us in MSM and the reality of backroom deals between US officials, corporations and Chinese counterparts. We literally borrow billions of dollars from China and owe them an astronomical amount. Our whole economy is based on China. In fact, we literally and deliberately *gave* China our industries and economy. That's just the obvious stuff. Research all the other meetings and deals that we know about publicly.
Partnership doesnt make you friends or even allies. Have you ever heard of a marriage of convenience?
It's true that the US Government exported a *lot* of manufacturing (and culture), with the intent of squeezing domestic labor out of the profiting. However the debt is a double-edged sword for the US. Sure we have to keep servicing the debt payments, but if the US ever defaults for whatever reason, it will cut China deeply. Any collaboration with China in relation to bioweapons research could only ever be a complete shitshow. Unless the Chinese Freemasons are in on it, and then I could see something happening.
Some famous guy is quoted for saying a small loan is the person's problem, a large loan is the banks problem 😂 Anyways, I agree. But at the end of the day, the loans are the peoples problem. The officials and TPTB only benefit, whether they're skimming on the side or directly receiving interest. No matter what happens, they won't lose a cent. If the economy disappears overnight, they are all rich and have everything they want. It's us who get suckered
The labs were not advertised as bioweapon development labs. They were marketed as research labs to develop vaccines against known bioweapons. China has access to bioweapon agents that most other countries have banned. Nobody knew that the U.S. was using them to develop new bioweapons that come with a controlled pre-made antidote.
Vaccines are no good against bacteria.
RDNA, which is incorrectly considered a vaccine as used for Covid19. It wasn't a coincidence that the Covid19 RDNA vaccine existed before the outbreak.
That isn't true. A good example of this would be a tetanus shot.
What are you talking about? There are a ton of vaccines for bacteria - DPT vaccines (tetanus, whooping cough,) typhoid, HIB vaccines (meningitis,) and pneumococcal pneumonia just off the top of my head are all vaccines for bacterial infections.
My bad. Immunology isn't really in my wheelhouse.
> Why would the US open a bioweapons research facility in China. Where did the US open a bioweapons lab in China?
>" Is the NWO really that far along with their nefarious plans for world domination? If you want your answer look at what was going on around the globe (particularly the east)in the in the 19th century and the start of the 20th century. Also 19th century most of this western expansion was carried out by the British. The start of the 20th century was Americas turn to be the imperialist puppet nation. Also check out root reform (Elihu root nobel prize winner hilariously for international relations) this little piece helped turn our military into the global monstrosity it is today. Our purpose was always to be a puppet nation (1789 ratification) for global westernization.
Accurate.
Can you provide your sources
The people’s voice is propaganda
I think if we were creating a mega pandemic in a Ukrainian lab we probably burned all evidence and relocated production +18 months ago. So it’s probably not a real concern for the people of Russia.
If you believe they relocated production, that should still be a concern for all of us. Considering what happened last time, ya know?
no, no, the ideal place to do virulent disease research is in a warzone. Look it up!
Do y’all remember seeing that video soon after the Ukraine Russ war there was a Ukrainian lady on the news I forget her name and position but she reported that the Ukrainian army has been finding these US owned bioweapons labs. And I think there was a few of them iirc. The video was in Ukrainian and translated but that was the first and only time I heard about it. Wish I knew a way to find it. But I really believe this to be true.
Perhaps you are recalling the Victoria Nuland testimony? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V9-eTw6tzY&t=4s&ab\_channel=ImpressiveMedia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V9-eTw6tzY&t=4s&ab_channel=ImpressiveMedia)
Thanks for sharing! But no, if I recall right this lady was standing at a podium, it looked like a spot in front of people/reporters, can’t remember if it was inside or outside, I wanna say the lady was shortish and pretty plump?
Ukraine has zero bsl-4 labs inside its country. There are currently 13 operational or planned BSL-4 facilities within the United States of America Ukraine has 1 bsl-3 lab in Odessa. 1300 bsl-3 labs worldwide working alongside America's who has 200 bsl-3 inside our country.
Wuhan people worked on Covid in BSL2/3 labs, so the absence of level 4 labs means zilch.
The point was we have bsl-4 in the USA. And that most countries have bsl labs.
The point is that doing shit in BSL-4 labs is very expensive and slow, which is why we fund labs in countries with lax regulations to do it cheaper/faster.
How do you know the location of every secret lab? Just ridiculous
If a bsl4 can resreach everything under the sun, why would they need to create secretive ones?
Illegal research? Research they want to keep secret? Treasonous behavior?
it's called top secret research. Official labs are subject to regulations and accountability.
And here start with the wiki if you wanna learn more (locations included) about bsl labs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level
i'm sure they are underground like all the massive DUMB networks everyone seems to build. then they just activate the fail-safe (low yield nuclear device or some other containment measure) if something escapes. or i've been watching too many zombie movies. but movies tend to reflect reality a bit.
Conspiracy people riding Russia’s D is something I still can’t comprehend. Distrust the US government but believes another one? Lol cognitive dissonance at its finest.
>Conspiracy people riding Russia’s D is something I still can’t comprehend. I know, *he's a literal KGB agent* and they happily swallow whatever he puts in their mouth.
Putin is the real life version of the boogeyman that conservatives and conspiracy theorists insist the democrats are. And yet he gets treated with kid gloves in comparison. Putin hates the West and is an enemy of the US. Everything he says and does is done with the intent to make the US weaker. He openly jails and murders his opponents. Putin worked for the KGB, became the director of the FSB and later became president and made it a new rule that the FSB is entirely under his control. Russia is a dictatorship where you’re jailed just for talking shit about Putin or even for holding blank signs at protests. Russia is actively invading another country. And yet there are people who will side with Putin just because he’s saying what they want to hear.
Piggybacking on your comment, Putin managed to effectively "de-politicize" the entire Russian population. Putin created an entire political system that behaves (less blatantly so prior to 2014) as if it's a multi-party democracy, but in reality is just a facade. That in of itself isn't unique in autocracies, but the way in which he set literally everything up while annihilating every last vestige of legitimate opposition is just astoundingly evil. Doesn't matter who the opposition was, if they couldn't be controlled by Putin and integrated within the Russian state, they were destroyed. In otherwords, Russian politics are a performative act that the population knows is false, and Putin knows that the people know, but at this point in time most Russians have so thoroughly been conditioned to accept it that they just go along with the process. From what I've read of the Russian perspective over the last few years, they'd rather have a kleptocratic fake democracy than have to endure the 1990s again. Even though Putin has basically breached the social contract he made with the Russian people since 2014-2022 invasion, in their eyes, its preferable to the post-soviet era.
It’s actually not about any Russian D at this point… it’s the black and white fact that there are in fact US Biolabs operating in Ukraine. Isn’t it a little funny how many billions we keep sending? Protection that us US tax payers are sending while our own country declines rapidly.
Because Russia has proven themselves to be credible sources.....
And how has the US earned any more credibility than Russia? Lol
By being more credible? [Russia said they weren't invading Ukraine.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-17/russia-tells-u-s-no-ukraine-invasion-planned-tass-says&ved=2ahUKEwjCqZng6ZWDAxX5RzABHY82A58QFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0rSdFG7oskrMwOv4CEZb2Z) US said they were. Guess how that turned out? Now Russia is fighting a proxy war with the US. Everything both say is questionable.
The US is just as bad as Russia and you can't argue with that one. They put their nose in everyone's business. I seem to remember them using an excuse of there being weapons of mass destruction as an excuse to go an invade a country and it turned out to be bullshit.
You’re arguing with people who either have given their complete trust to their government or are themselves affiliated. Russia bad, US good. Reddit is not a place for critical thinkers or deep conversation.
Russia made like 6 different false flag events to try to justify their invasion of Ukraine while denying the build up of troops along the Ukraine border. They've continued to come up with new and different lies to keep their people from rejecting the invasion. But here you, going must be true...
Is that like what CNN told you?
Just listening to the things Russia has said about Ukraine since the start of the invasion and before would tell you that they're liars.
You need to update your crappy response, CNN was bought by a right wing loon and is less credible than its corporatism was before. But no, I saw the fucking Russian propaganda videos myself. They were obvious plants. Random bomb found under a park bench?
Probably actually more so than the US of A if we're being honest about it.
Yeah, no. Just no. All Russia does is pump out lies and propaganda and folks just lap it up.
Actually braindead take 💀
When the US media actually admits, instead of covers up, that the US has been putting up biolabs multiple countries then maybe they'll have more credibility. US media straight up pretends it doesn't happen.
And Russian media pretends Ukraine is equal to nazi Germany and therefor their invasion of it is as justified as fighting back the nazis was in WWII.
There’s a lot of nazis in Ukraine…
So you are saying there are no Nazis in the Ukraine government?
No, because I couldn’t possibly know that. But neither could you or I know how many nazis there are in the Russian or any other government.
So then the Azov Battalion doesn't count even though they were Swastikas. These are actual nazis. Not like when you dont like a conservatories opinion about taxes or abortion. [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment) https://www.sott.net/article/469073-Not-worth-your-sympathy-The-story-of-Ukraines-neo-Nazi-Azov-battalion?ysclid=lq8t4qi19v277005654
Since when are a countries’ soldiers considered part of their government?
Anyone who calls nazis instantly loses. Unless you are talking about Israel doing genocide currently.
Some people on this sub certainly seem to think so
RT has much more consistent and balanced (and true!) reporting than the NYT, CNN, Fox News, etc. it’s not so far off.
Still better than the West lol. We're 95% droids, 2% JarJars and 1% Sith
You're getting your alternate worlds mixed up. Did you dial in the Tau axis to the correct value? Because in this alternate world, it's hobbits, goblins, orcs, sorcerers, and of course men. At least the dragons were hunted to extinction, so that's a win. You probably hooked in to the local net without checking outside.
The other 3% don’t exist 👋
2% maybe?
Even if this was credible, it's important to note that Russia is probably also doing similar expirements in other countries. Blaming one another is something both of these two counties have done consistently to distract their people from their mistake or potentially catastrophic initiatives.
Ahh yes because Russia never lies
You might be right, but do you have any examples of them being caught in flat out lies since the fall of the Soviet Union?
They promised to not invade in December 2021
Would the US allow Russian bio weapons labs and military bases to be set up in Mexico?
You know those bilans are à consequence of the Budapest Memorandum that Russia signed. Ukraine gave back it's nuclear weapons, but man forget the soviet bioweapons programms. Its publicly available information: search for Biological Threat Reduction Program on Google. Furthermore it was visited by Zelensky in April 2020 and reported in the press, https://www.unian.ua/war/10954781-zelenskiy-pribuv-na-donbas-inspektuye-nametove-mistechko-dlya-hvorih-na-covid-19-fotoreportazh.html Your incapacity of finding informations that are freely and publicly available is not a proof of a secret conspiracy, it just shows that you're incapable of doing a 30s Google search...
I mean they blamed Ukraine for the downing of MH17
How do you know Ukraine didn’t take it out?
There was a fairly in depth investigation done that you should probably read.
Do you believe Russia blew up nordstream as well? There was an in depth investigation into that too.
https://x.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1680869416865546240?s=20 Russians posing with the wreckage just after shooting it down, this is before they realised theyd shot down a civilian airliner not a ukrainian fighter plane. Whoops
Having fun JAQing off?
Russia lies about literally everything
Every country does its not just Russia. The USA killed one of their own presidents. Set up Afghanistan then fought them I could go on but I don't think I need to. In this case there is no lesser evil all equally evil
But this conversation isn't about America. Great whataboutism though. The US isn't invading Mexico under false pretenses and waging a brutal and callous war of aggression. The US doesn't have its leaders continually threatening its rivals with literal nuclear war every 0.1 seconds. As it was said before, Russia lies about everything, all the time. Russia engaged in direct interference in western nations' democratic processes. Russia has and is currently waging complex social media campaigns to influence western audiences and spread false information, using the exact same talking points as yourself-ie whataboutism, soft denial, etc.
What do you mean the USA throws its weight around more than anyone in the world including China and China always has something to say. The USA sticks its nose into every war even when it has nothing to do with them. Although I do get that this post isn't about the USA originally the bottom line is the USA is and has been the most war hungry country in the whole world for a very long time now and pretending they aren't is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The USA manipulates situations anywhere and everywhere all the time. You think Russia is the bad guy I'm here to tell you that there are bigger bad guys in the game and USA is the main culprit.
Maybe such wouldn't be needed if there wasn't an imperialistic, autocratic state with a penchant for attacking its smaller neighbors that, again, continually threatens to invade the West and nuke western countries? This has NOTHING to do with America. Again, this is about Russia. Whatever faults American foreign policy has do not provide justification for Russia invading Ukraine and committing acts of systemic oppression, genocide, looting, torture etc. >You think Russia is the bad guy I'm here to tell you that there are bigger bad guys in the game and USA is the main culprit. Russia started the largest conflict in Europe since the world wars under false pretenses, solely for the reason of conquering Ukraine+Moldova and fulfilling Putin's delusion of rebuilding "historical" Russia and its empire. Until Americs tops that I don't really see the merit to your argument
OK dude tell yourself whatever you need to I don't care that much I'm just going to agree we have different views of the world as a whole
Trust me bro
This is the ukrainian biolabs bullshit all over again from 2 yrs back that tucker and greenwald were spreading when the war started. How do right wingers fall for this guys bullshit 🤦🏿♂️
I've been replying on this subreddit recently and engaging whenever the topic of Ukraine comes up. If you look at a lot of the comments, it's literally the exact same talking points and, most of the time, the same exact language used by the Russian government. If you further look at a lot of the users, their comment history is almost solely about this topic, and they seem to engage with the same users throughout different posts. Going out on a limb here to say that 90% of the users offering pro-russian or "neutral" perspectives are actual Russian bots. The 10% that are real humans have been on this subreddit for several years now, being fed narratives by Russians and just eating it all the fuck up. Let's not forget that the now deceased hot dog vendor turned mercenary leader/oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin operated a clandestine large-scale trolling operation starting in 2016 to influence western audiences. Not to mention hacking and interfering in our political processes. Now it seems that the Russian GRU has assumed control over Russia's troll farms
There's a conspiracy right in front of them but they Bury their heads in the sand and refuse to see it. https://theweek.com/speedreads/945204/giulianis-hunter-biden-material-apparently-being-sold-ukraine-18-months-ago "Explicit photos and emails purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden were circulating in Ukraine last year at the same time that Rudy Giuliani was searching for dirt there on former Vice President Joe Biden," In January, the U.S. cybersecurity firm Area 1 reported that Russia's GRU military hackers had broken into the computer systems of Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company Hunter Biden worked for. Selling pilfered private information is so commonplace in Ukraine now it's the "national sport," said Igor Novikov, a former adviser to Ukraine's president, One of the people Giuliani worked with, Andrii Derkach, has been identified by the U.S. government as an "active Russian agent." Prigz was a mass murderer but there were moments he did spit facts about russia that putin wanted kept quiet. He openly admitted to interfering in our elections and was indicted for it but they all say it was just a hoax
lol. they said ukraine has 32 bio labs. more then the entire world put together, yet even though russia has occupied over 20% of Ukraine's land they havent found 1 lab yet. people who believe this conspiracy are fools
Should I also disbelieve Victoria Nuland?
with what? What did she say?
https://youtu.be/ydSf57SRtcQ It's not a conspiracy theory that the US has/had biolabs in ukraine. Since nothing's come of them to date I also wouldn't be too worried about them unless something dramatic changes
thx. But she didn‘t say anything new. There are biolabs all over the world. Wuhan anyone? Are there a bunch of secret ones too? Probably, but I guess any bigger power, including north korea, russia or china probably has one.
If it's not anything new, then it obviously isn't a conspiracy theory as the comment I replied to asserted.
There is a saying if you believe a quarter what russian says, you have already deceived by half.
oh look some russian propaganda quick everybody be scared and vote for trump
Even if you vote for him it's all the same people.
With Trump you get some real losers like Steven Miller and Steve Bannon
Quick everybody vote for the ruling class. They will fix it!
Trump, the “Operation Warpspeed” guy with the rushed vaccine and the trillions of dollars of payoffs right before the election?
Good thing you’re here and in every other post with your derangement syndrome to check all this missinformation.
Glad someone sees right through it
I’m with Russia on this one…
It’s true
I bet they stay quiet on covid and China, strange that, hh more Russian disinformation
Lol
Who do you think created SAR-COV2/COVID-19? Well the US bank rolled it at least.
Has anyone else noticed that the up and down votes are all messed up in this thread? It's like people are showing up and only voting on comments with certain words in them. This shit has gotta be bot driven.
Anyone want an “explain like I’m 5” on why NATO is good for Earth, including the ones who think their country should lose against Russia or reject NATO? https://youtu.be/IR7ePHJNihM?si=7vJJVZag2T4DSOMr NATO IS BAKED IN. Stop trying to convince Americans it’s bad for us thru Trumpism. If you succeed, it’ll end badly for you just as it would us, just as it would everyone. No one with a young child wants to live in a world where that descendant suffers more than he/she needs to. No matter how much you hate the USA, NATO is better world peace than your dictator tells you they can do. Otherwise they would have done it by now since NATO is newer than the dictatorship you’re being paid to shill for. If some how your dictator offers a better plan, planet fucking earth will adopt it. Until then, try to find a better job.
The un and nato are lapdogs for the usa
Yeah, this is so believable coming from ruskie dogs lmao.
The SPARS pandemic event is coming soon in theaters near you
So I take it Russia is about to release a "New Deadly 'Mega Pandemic'"?
Whatever..
So why doesn’t Russia bomb the labs?
Even if this was fake we all believe it.
*Again?!*
I had 6 coronas and Taco Bell creating my own “mega pandemic”
Another case or projection. Russia is actually ready to release a new deadly virus to cause a new pandemic.
Why didn’t they go back to China? I guess you have to switch it up.