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LanguidConfluence

The USS Liberty…. ^wait


Yanrogue

Or the Apollo affair? Now I'm on a list.


bomboclawt75

Or (DATE REMOVED).


DruidicMagic

AIPAC ensures that our employees in Washington have plenty of cash to spend for their re-election campaigns!


ShennongjiaPolarBear

Their employees. They are certianly not yours.


FckYoFeelings

Funny you should say that, Massie said on Tucker that Republicans have a AIPAC person they run things through.


feral--daryl

I think the term one of them used was "babysitters".


Yanrogue

>"All I'm saying Carmella is if the 'I' in AIPAC stood for Italian, they'd be calling it a mafia organization. A bunch of Italians in congress sending billions of dollars to Italy for military couldn't get away with that shit."


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tylerdurdenmass

And guess who controls that


penta3x

Who?


TheForce122

SS: clown world https://x.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1801335780494950565?s=19 "Report: Israel Was Wrong About Iraq Weapons" >JERUSALEM – Parliamentary investigators have determined that Israel's intelligence services delivered an erroneous assessment of pre-war Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, an Israeli newspaper reported Thursday. >Prior to the American-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, the Israeli services reported Iraq had large amounts of weapons of mass destruction (search), including chemical and biological agents. Since ousting Saddam Hussein, the U.S.-led coalition's technical experts have failed to find any such weapons. An investigative subcommittee was formed eight months ago to consider if Israeli intelligence agencies provided an accurate picture of Iraqi unconventional weapons capabilities on the eve of the Iraq war. https://www.foxnews.com/story/report-israel-was-wrong-about-iraq-weapons Corbett Report on Dancing Israelis: https://archive.is/KI8ee >In 2001, Lt-Gen. Ahmad regularly visited the United States where he consulted with The Pentagon and CIA officials in the Bush administration in the weeks before and after terrorist attacks took place in New York on 11 September 2001.[23] In fact, he was with U.S. Republican Congressman Porter Goss and U.S. Democratic Senator Bob Graham in Washington, D.C., discussing Osama bin Laden over breakfast, when the attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in New York, United States.[24][25] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_Ahmed "The Pakistan Connection" >Ahmed, the paymaster for the hijackers, was actually in Washington on 9/11, and had a series of pre-9/11 top-level meetings in the White House, the Pentagon, the national security council, and with George Tenet, then head of the CIA, and Marc Grossman, the under-secretary of state for political affairs. When Ahmed was exposed by the Wall Street Journal as having sent the money to the hijackers, he was forced to "retire" by President Pervez Musharraf. Why hasn't the US demanded that he be questioned and tried in court? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jul/22/usa.september11 - https://archive.is/0s1Ff Bush ties to Bin laden: https://www.denverpost.com/2006/09/11/bush-ties-to-bin-laden-haunt-grim-anniversary/ "Odigo Says Workers Were Warned of Attack" >Odigo, the [Israeli] instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen. https://www.haaretz.com/2001-09-26/ty-article/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack/0000017f-dbc4-df62-a9ff-dfd7beff0000 - https://archive.is/uL4DT "Mohamed Atta called his father after 9/11 who also blamed Israel's Mossad for the attacks" https://youtu.be/iLcxjGT87m8?si=qcNo-X8GJuaUhV7w "A DAY OF TERROR: THE ISRAELIS; Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer" >Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/day-terror-israelis-spilled-blood-seen-bond-that-draws-2-nations-closer.html - https://archive.is/PEI1l


eyeidentifyu

They were not wrong. They lied. There is a difference.


Merpadurp

You should see what else they lie about… https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1 https://dancingisraelis.com/


saeedi1973

If you repeat a lie enough times it becomes Israel This slogan has the right to defend itself..


noname5280

Repeat a lie, Is Real?


Addakisson

There's a theory that if a lie is repeated enough times, some people will perceive it to be real.


Ancient_Oxygen

The sun is not to be repeated. The sun is not a theory.


Addakisson

Huh?


Firm-Extension-4685

Is real


[deleted]

Just like when they bomb hospitals because the babies in there were hamas.


hate2bme

I just assume that they use the word Hamas for any Palestinian.


Merpadurp

It turns out that Israel’s intelligence services was actually here surveilling the 9/11 perpetrators. The IC agents then proceeded to **allow the attacks to happen**, took pictures celebrating it occurring, and then were apprehended by police due to a tip reporting their suspicious behavior (dancing on a rooftop after watching one of the towers being struck). They are quoted in the police report as saying, **”We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."** https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1


Necessary-Middle-964

Israel wants to conquer the Middle East and they want us to supply the project. And no matter what our citizens think, no matter how we vote, it will happen the way they want. That’s how fucked we are and the Middle East is, it’s too late


TheForce122

Haha yup "Greater Israel". Even tho their logo on their flag is a Rothschild Seal of Solomon hexagram that Solomon used to summon/control 72 demons


Ambitious_Orchid5984

Solomon had a ring by which he use to control the demons into obedience, that sign has nothing to do with him! That star sign is of the satanic cult.. They also do their rituals on that star!


fuggettabuddy

Meanwhile, open the borders and quietly accept the replacement transition.


alienrefugee51

What do you mean? They helped a lot of US politicians and corporations make a shit ton of money after their Gelitin B-Thing exhibit.


BoredPersona69

>all candidates blindly protects Israel >people will notice and riot >a new leader will come to give people what they want, making a dictatorship (fall of democracy) do American leaders think that people are so stupid? Isn't it odd that all the candidates have the same opinion about Israel while they could oppose the running government?


Low_Bid_1567

I’d say we past the tipping point where more than 50% of the population is either not paying any attention or is too stupid to see what’s going on. Look at how low the average IQ score is, then you realize half the population is dumber than that. It’s pretty depressing


ApocalypticShadowbxn

funny you mention the iq score. those who fall for propaganda do tend to be on the lower end of the IQ. pro-israel propaganda, anti-israel propaganda.....it's all propaganda & if you fall for it you just may be the half of the country with below average IQ. thread is the perfect example. pushback against the pro-israel propaganda by inventing new anti-israel propaganda. then, find a good social media circlejerk to set the propaganda free. I truly wish people conspiracy communities were more aware of how much conspiracy communities are manipulated. it's a huge blind spot for so many. people talk about 'sheep' while this whole thread reads like a bunch of sheep all virtue signaling back & forth about their shared propaganda. free yourselves from the slavery of mindless propaganda


UDontKnowMe784

I genuinely believe that 95% of what normal, everyday citizens believe regarding American politics are lies. It seems hardly anyone understands all of the ways the news can be faked, how many people there are between an event occurring and that event being publicized (like a game of telephone), or that virtually all media outlets push a narrative and are therefore completely untrustworthy. It’s depressing as hell.


Lucky-Scientist4873

Thank god I’m not the only one who sees this lol


drakens6

They've had a gun to our head since we built the bomb for them their "protection" is a lot like when a mafia gives you "protection"


eliteplanet81

They use our government as a shell. It’s not a coincidence we keep pushing ww3. Israel’s gotta get rid of these worthless us citizens somehow.


DarkClouds92

Oy vey! Shut it down!


tireguy79

Why is it our job to be the world protectors? Like Ukraine, they had time since they became a country up until Russia attacked to build up an arsenal of their own. So why are we taking on the responsibility of saving them because they didn’t bother to prepare for the future themselves? America should not be the world police or protectors, should we help to a point in some situations? Yes, but not to the level that we buy ourselves into other countries problems. We spend so much of our taxes on so much of the rest of the world, and very little on our own country.


NineTailedRe4per

Yea I think we should help when things get bad enough that people need saving, but like you kinda stated, we should set countries up to succeed and let them grow themselves. It’s like the time your dad helped you ride a bike but eventually let go so you could ride by yourself.


tireguy79

💯


ll_Stout_ll

Because the US corporations want control of the 14 trillion worth of minerals/metals/etc… under the ground in Ukraine…Ukraine are a despicable regime kidnapping people to die on the frontlines


[deleted]

This is the same attitude other countries had when Hitler invaded Poland. Then the next country and the next and so on until they became too powerful. And you know, a threat to democracy anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.


tireguy79

That’s why I said help to a point. But you have to agree, this is on Ukraine as well when it comes to being able to defend yourself and be ready for something like this. Not saying they asked to be invaded, but they didn’t put funds towards preparing to protect themselves in case something were to happen. That’s what is frustrating as well. But I don’t totally disagree with what you said.


The_Texidian

They buy weapons from the US defense industry. That’s all I can think of.


Hadley_333

That little piece of land gives us military footing in that area so we bow to them


Merpadurp

You should really look up the dancing Israelis and see how great their dance parties are!


Graychin877

Our alliance with Israel flows in one direction only.


operation_stackola

We have full acess to their intelligence network. And they happen to be right in the middle of a region that historically doesn't favor the US. I'm pretty sure the US is willing to compensate them through various means to keep this intelligence network channel open. I don't personally advocate any this but but please stop spreading misinformation.


narnarnarnia

This, I’m sure we all hate dual loyalty and the unfair advantage paid to Israel. But we are allies, we share family values and most constitutional values. I have never met a jewish individual I did not like. But story after story its hard to not be conflicted by the many mistakes made diplomatically and militarily between Israel and USA.


I_am_the_alcoholic

The U.S. had issues with the Middle East prior to 1948?


CaoimhinP29

We don't prop up israel because the rest of the region doesn't favor us, the rest of the region doesn't favor us **because** we prop up israel. And if we did actually have full access to their intelligence network as you claim, 9/11 would have been prevented nor would the Iraq War and all it's consequences have gone down. The United States literally gets nothing out of it's relationship with israel except trouble and never has, they are not our "ally" but rather instead our *parasite* plain and simple.


dinomate

Simple Google search would've answered your wrong assumptions. >the rest of the region doesn't favour us because we prop up israel. DOUBT (X). United States foreign policy in the Middle East has its roots in the early 19th-century Tripolitan War that occurred shortly after the 1776 establishment of the United States. **Tripolitania had declared war against Sweden and the United States in 1801** over disputes regarding tributary payments made by both states in exchange for a cessation of Tripolitanian commerce raiding at sea. United States President Thomas Jefferson refused to pay this tribute. Yeah, it's Israel and not the American love of paying sea taxes since its establishment.. Now seriously, the U.S. support for the State of Israel started as an American interest against the Soviet-backed Arab countries in the region and only much later after the formation of Israel. Today, it's just part of the Western coalition against Islamist and authoritarian regimes. >if we did actually have full access to their intelligence network as you claim, 9/11 would have been prevented, nor would the Iraq War and all it's consequences have gone down. [On 23 August 2001, Mossad gave the CIA a list of 19 names of suspects living in the US who were believed to be mounting an attack. at least four 9/11 hijackers — Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, Khalid al-Mihdhar, and Nawaf al-Hazmi — were named and it is not known if the list had all the other hijackers who would partake in the attacks]( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_intelligence_before_the_attacks) So, Israel did share this intel... >The United States literally gets nothing out of it's relationship with israel On a citizen basis, Israel has a technologically advanced market economy with numerous civilian cooperations from Health to loads of R&D owned by American companies operating their. On a state level, Israel is a western aligned state with U.S./West interests over the region without necessarily having the West directly involved. Ex. 1980 destruction of the Iraqi nuclear proliferation program. Same with the destruction of Syrians Nuclear program just a decade ago (Imagine Bashar Assad with Nukes...) Israel isn't unique in that regard and on the same level of Western alliances such as Japan or South Korea.


CaoimhinP29

Bro brought forward an example from not even the exact region in question that had already been settled a century and a half prior to israel to try and claim the ME just always hated us for no reason🤡. If you had bothered to keep reading about the history of American foreign policy in the middle east and not just disingenuously stopped there, you would know that since the Barbary campaigns the United States maintained good relations in the region and were even in fact favored over European powers, especially after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The shift didn't start to happen until after the second world war, and you don't have to be a genius to know what happened immediately after that might have caused the shift


dinomate

"Libya isn't in the same region," LOL.... No one claimed anything you're saying, and that isn't the reason 🤡. If you had bothered to read the comment, I said the divide started because of the **SOVIET** alliances that occurred in Arab countries while the Israel/U.S relationship was a counter movement to it. Before that, Israel was more aligned with socialist parties in European countries, and the Arab countries played realpolitik with everyone. Eventually, they chose the Russian side. The first example was just against the stupid and simplistic take that "Israel" is the question and answer to all things...


BestSuggestion0

Fuck Israel!


QuttiDeBachi

Their banking consortium promises not to foreclose on the USA…simple maths


Aimin4ya

They've been stimulating the American economy by giving politicians millions for decades. /s


Ambitious_Orchid5984

Unfortunately, his knees are also bent in front of Israel! People are hopeful of him, but he is disappointing by showing his allegiance to Israel!


abominable_bro-man

It protects all the blackmail it gathers on our politicians


tyler98786

And they will continue to have their hand out. And Congress members who all own billions in military-industrial stocks will happily continue to oblige.


Standard-Share1317

Maybe Germany was onto something


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BroadStreetBuds

Bagels


KingJeremytheWickedC

911


ShartingOnTheRegular

I really dislike Trump but I absolutely agree on this one


M0ons608

Let Ukraine and isreal deal with their own issues. America doesn't owe shit to anyone other than the people who live in it.


Sad_Drink9706

The 9/11 attacks?


Warfightur

Well, Mossad keeps assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists, which keeps screwing over their nuclear weapons development. So that's pretty cool, I guess?


JCBuskirk

9/11


EggSandwich1

That’s every USA president’s stance


gecko80108

Fuckin nothing. Ugh israel


Rastagon01

I watched a video last night on a post on X that laid out a pretty good argument that Israel was behind 9/11. If you believe any of it you would have to believe that a power above our president and military orchestrated 9/11, if that is true, we are beyond fucked


BusyBiegz

I think we have banks and movies and stuff like that because of Israel right?


tim292969

Fuck Israel. Let them defend themselves. They have no bearing on the US. We spend billions on them for nothing


ibking46

Ok maga channel. At minimum it is a very important strategic location for us. It’s not just about protecting Israel. It’s basically like having a base in the Middle East. Smarten up kids.


I_am_the_alcoholic

The U.S. has bases all over the Middle East. It doesn’t need Israel for this.


fuggettabuddy

Are you letting facts get in the way of a good story again?


STONK_Hero

Protect Israel from what? They’re the aggressor lmao


leandroman

So are they helping Trump become popular because he's the secret (not so secret) Isreal candidate?


I_am_the_alcoholic

They are all Israel candidates. Biden is an avowed Zionist


Fuzznutsy

Base of operations of the Middle East.


tylerdurdenmass

Ummm, that and blowing things up so US corporations tied to politicians can rebuild and reap huge profits, while twisting the arms of the middle east leaders whose countries can never repay the loans.


CeraRalaz

If USA don’t protect Israel who will rule over them then? They would lost theirselves in this giant and cruel world without wise mentors from Israel


justsomeguy_42

Surely their god will protect them.


TheOneCalledD

Name anyone that has TRULY helped US ever? We are always the country lending the helping hand.


I_am_the_alcoholic

France


ocdriver

Not a huge fan of Israel, but they sent their acclaimed search and rescue team to the wtc after 9/11. Probably more ceremonial than anything though…


Bearbats

Same way USA is Europe's attack dog, Israel is the USA's guard dog.


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Bearbats

what? go touch grass


[deleted]

Israel is not at all guarding the US. They’re more like the rabid dogs that bark at leaves rustling in the wind.


iloveuncleklaus

Border security.


stansvan

Sure, we can find another place to fulfill our dependency on oil.


AcanthocephalaOne481

I know right? The weather has been pretty shitty lately.


joopityjoop

They allow us to have bases there so we can have some kind of foothold in the Middle East. That's all I can think of.


I_am_the_alcoholic

They “allow”? Israel wouldn’t exist without the U.S.


WillFireat

Israel is the only US ally in otherwise hostile region. It's basic geopolitics. US and Israel relations will always be strong, and nobody, not even Trump, can do anything about it.


[deleted]

Yea well that’s not the way the relationship works between a strong party and weak party of Israel could defend us they would , do they not share technology and resources that they have available , do people not have a right to make and declare war with thier enemies , surly you realize this is all the Doing of the Most High , and we should exercise caution before we judge the situation, it be better to repent and believe the gospel and focus all your energy into that then into what you perceive is going on in the world and help other people repent and believe these things are more profitable than conspiracy conspiracy don’t get me wrong. I like a conspiracy as much as the next guy.


POS_Troll

I hope Israel 🇮🇱 gets rid of all those goat fucking tribes and finally has 1 united country . IMO


bordersofsin

Is there a lower IQ sub on this site than this one?


I_am_the_alcoholic

Well, you’re here


Crotch-Monster

Lol. Nice!


Mr_cypresscpl

Can we for the love of the gods have another voting option than the old senile guy or the felon....please...please


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I_am_the_alcoholic

Well, this is just straight up false all around.