Precisely.
Dipshit thinks bringing back Zeke and throwing to rookies at the OL is going to fix the problem.
I’ll never abandon my Boys but this has been a trying offseason.
Zero. FO is full of yes men, and the Jones' have only one scope to view things. This FO, hell this franchise, needs to be challenged. Unfortunately that's not possible. The Cowboys are the Jones' play toy, and think they know what is best. It's why I have zero expectations moving forward and will limit my financial contributions as much as possible (definitely not buying any gear thats for sure).
> "It just so happens that sometimes that old oblong football doesn't bounce your way."
They haven't gotten their guts stomped out in the playoffs because of a funny or unlucky bounce you fucking moron.
They've gotten their guts stomped out because of penalties, lack of mental toughness, dog-shit coaches, and players who shrink in the big moments. Dak is one of them, but certainly not the only/worst offender. It's certainly not dumb luck. It's because this team has a personnel deficit in the FO, coaching staff, and players.
Mostly Dak and he is by far the worst offender and biggest fraud. He can’t win when the bright lights come on. It’s really that simple. It’s been almost a decade. Time to move on.
Agreed. That’s been my point. I’m glad you put it in those terms.. B+ getting A+ money…
I argue all of the time that the market is wrong and they’re vastly overpaying B+ talent..
Outside of Mahomes and maybe Lamar, I don’t think anyone is worth the $$ they’re being paid. Allen and Herbert have been flawed and Burrow is constantly hurt… Lamar can’t seem to get over the playoff hump, either.
If they are not planning on walking away from Dak next year, then this “all in” offseason makes even less sense. You’ll want to stagger the big deals of Dak, Ceedee, and Micha, so you don’t absolutely blow up the cap in one year.
So he’s either lying, or is the most incompetent EVP in professional sports
>You’ll want to stagger the big deals of Dak, Ceedee, and Micha, so you don’t absolutely blow up the cap in one year.
Uhh, what? What "one year" are you talking about blowing up the cap here?
While this may be generally true, you can back load one contract and front load another. Toss in void years, if necessary, to spread the cap hit on the signing bonus, etc. There are mechanisms to make it work, so it isn't the end of the world. It is prob better to sign at least one of the three this year.
There are mechanisms, but if we aren't close now then 3 mega deals at once, back loaded or not, isn't very conducive to a winning NFL team. At best it helps towards a win now season, which I think we all know is a joke at this point. If we were in a conference finals under Dak I would be down to throw the cap to the wolves and agree it's not the end of the world. And honestly I still agree it's not, but three huge contracts in one year is definitely (and assuming we do not get conference finals again, or get blown out) on the road to mediocrity or worse
That's what everyone said when they went all in late 2010s. Then they won the Superbowl, reshuffled the deck and almost won a second and are still light-years ahead of us in terms of contract structure and negotiation.
While I understand the cap will continue to go up and they can continue to push some of it off into the future, at some point they’re going to have to pay the piper and it will impact what they can do on the field.
Dallas has kicked the can down the road time and time again and it hasn’t worked out… I believe that’s partly why they’re hesitant to extend him, coupled with the lack of playoff success and he looked absolutely atrocious vs GB.
He’s a good QB, but I don’t think he can get them over the top and elevate the talent around them..
If they re sign all of the big 3, they would account for virtually 50% of their salary cap.
Bosa is avg 34 a year, which means parsons wants more… WR market was just reset and Lamb will command more than likely 35ish and Dak wants 60 a year over 3 years… do the math.. and back loading the deals will only hurt them even more..
They can’t do it and continue to do it.
Lastly, Howie can do all he wants and they folded down the stretch… it’s virtually the same team with the same staff. I’m not entirely buying what they’re selling.
They’re better off extending parsons and lamb and going a different route at qb and actually be able to put more talent around the qb.. I could even see just extending parsons and letting Dak and ceedee walk if you want more of a rebuild… hell, maybe even try to get a Herschel walker deal out of Lamb. I don’t know if paying a WR that much is best for this team.
lol, that’s not true at all. Vet min base salary in year 1 goes a long way so then the cap hit is mostly just prorated signing bonus. For Parsons, signing him to an extension next year could dramatically reduce his cap hit (much like us extending CeeDee right now could do to his) from the 5th-year option figure. With void years, back-loading, etc signing multiple long-term deals in the same offseason is not a problem. Just because the deals would be discussed by the media as $57.5M, $36M, $34M per year does not mean those 3 contracts will be carrying $127.5 million in 2025 cap hits.
Well, they can still do it.
They can also save the cap space to make in-season moves. Now from there to actually making moves....there's a big gap, of course.
To be fair the only way to _for sure_ not win a playoff game is to not make the playoffs in the first place. Three straight 12-win seasons is a better place to be than three straight 8-8 seasons.
While I do enjoy that, I would trade those 12-win seasons for one tank season and then a rebuild in order to legitimately challenge for a SB. We've been "close", but in actuality never really a threat in a while.
Would you rather hear them state that we don't think Dak Prescott can do it in the postseason? Therefore, we are dragging our feet on a contract extension. We didn't make cap room in 2024 because we don't want a $65MM 2025 cap hit when Dak walks away in free agency when he eventually disappears in the playoffs for the fourth season in a row.
Everything SJ said on Mad Dog Radio is propaganda for the contract negotiation with Dak. Dak needs to understand that top dollars are given to QBs that succeed in the playoffs. If Dak is reasonably competent in the playoffs, they don't go 1-3 the last three seasons in the playoffs.
Well, he can’t say they are releasing Dak even if they really are. That would kill the morale on the team for this next year. My speculation is they are giving Dak one more try to get over the hump of early post season losses.
You give this front office too much credit. They will re-sign him and get taken to the cleaners. Even worse is they could have re-signed him before free agency opened and freed up cap to actually improve the team.
It’s not like those are their only two options in terms of talking points. For instance, they’re not talking about how badly they want to extend McCarthys contract like they are Dak. They could pretty easily just say “Dak is our QB (in 2024)” and that they’re focusing on Ceedee and Micah first. Then if they theoretically got both of those done this season they could spew their usual cap nonsense and say they’ll address Dak after the season. Instead of all that they’re just saying they want to extend Dak and it’s a priority.
This is so rich:
> It just so happens that sometimes that oblong football doesn't bounce your way.
This guy is so out of touch.
I can't wait for the postseason when the FOX camera zooms in on the Jones's box at the end of the game to show their annual reaction.
Edit: can we also stop acting like winning 12 games in the last 3 years means anything? Every other team that's done that made a CCG. Dallas just flames out immediately when they play any one with a pulse.
I love Dak. But i think this is secretly a rebuild/tryout year and they want to see if Dak can perform on a TERRIBLE roster. Gave Dak Zeke for one last dance, want to wait to pay lamb and see if they are going to invest in Micah or trade him to rebuild.
We have no money to be competitive this year.
McCarthy 1 year deal
Dak 1 year deal
Zimmer 1 year deal
Zack Martin 1 year left
Dlaw 1 year left.
Enjoy it. This is the end of this generations Dallas cowboys and Dak may or may not be the future of it.
We will see. Herbert, Lamar, Kyler, Deshaun, Tlaw, Russ are all getting paid.
Other than Russ's win over a decade ago, your definition and standard of playoff success doesn't match every other team in the NFL unfortunately.
Like I said, still a try out year. But unless something terrible happens he's probably getting extended.
Dak has been paid, though. It’s been almost a decade of regular season stat padding, followed by playoff failure. $60 million per year is entirely too much for a qb of his caliber.
As for other qbs, I would have never paid Russ or Dimes the $$ their respective teams did. I feel like they’re more in line with $25-30 per year… same with Kirk… I could see Dak around $35-40 mil with Mahomes at 50-55, but I wouldn’t go more than that.
The market IMO is entirely too inflated.
I hear yah. That's the market rate if you don't want to be in quarterback hell like the other 20 teams in the league though. Broncos have gone through like what, 13 QBs before caving and paying Russ and even THAT didn't work out? Jets haven't even BEEN to a playoff game since 2010 (over a decade ago). The last time the Miami dolphins even WON a playoff game was the 1999 season, raiders two decades plus, commanders two decades plus.
I get that YOU feel you wouldn't pay these guys. But like I said, every gm and NFL team pretty much disagrees. And it's for a reason
I really think people are underrating the possibility that this really is a reload year and not a total rebuild. I think Dallas may truly want to clear their debt and build around Dak, Ceedee, and Parsons for the next few years.
All of this points to this as Dak's last year if he can't win it. Last year of his contract, 1 more year of Zeke, last of of McFat's contract. Win or GTFO. I'm all for it.
If Dak shits the bed again in big time games just cut him loose, I’d rather completely rebuild than win 12 games just to get fucked in the playoffs by his shit performance.
He has had 1 very good game to date in the playoffs and the rest have been bad. If I’m a surgeon and only complete 1/5 operations sucessfully I’d be labeled a shitty surgeon..
I don’t think anyone will be mad at them letting Dak walk if it turns out he’s asking for the contract people think he is. And if they do get mad at them for not signing Dak for what he’s likely asking for then they’re just silly since this team has peaked with Dak, and the peak isn’t very high, and the team will only get worse once he’s taking up even more of the cap. It’s time to move on from Dak and this is just a wasted year, but no exec is going to admit that.
I was just hopeful that he'd be willing to wave his NT clause and trade-and-sign a contract this year and we'd get some picks back.
It's gonna be embarrassing that all we're gonna get is a comp pick compared to the haul Houston got for a literal rapist.
He can’t win come playoff time. He’s absolutely atrocious when it matters and he wants 60 mil a year for 3 years so he can hit the market again.
They better let this man walk or it’ll be another 3 years of this bullshit.
I would normally agree with you, but between how bad he was vs GB and them continually kicking the can down the road, I honestly don’t believe they’re going to do it unless he gets to an NFC championship game.
They only kept MM because it would have been tough to bring in a new HC/system for 1 year and have Dak succeed.
It’s make or break for the both of them.
I genuinely haven't seen anything from Dak that tells me he can beat a SB caliber team. No I'm not talking about "defense gave up points". I'm talking about Dak actually putting up points when the game is still at hand and not when it's over or garbage time
here is some data to support your argument. I pulled the regular season winning percentage for some QBs against teams with 0.600 or better regular season records:
0.156 Kirk Cousins
0.256 Eli Manning
0.264 Matt Ryan
**0.281 Dak Prescott**
0.288 Joe Flacco
0.289 Philip Rivers
0.321 Alex Smith
0.333 Joe Burrow
0.404 Drew Brees
0.486 Aaron Rodgers
0.488 Ben Roethlisberger
0.488 Peyton Manning
0.508 Russell Wilson
0.520 Patrick Mahomes
0.583 Jalen Hurts
0.591 Tom Brady
0.682 Lamar Jackson
That's the other fuckin thing. The moment this team gets behind in the first quarter by a score or two. You know the game is over. The cowboys can only win one way unde Dak. Stay in front. And the only way that happens is when we blow out bottom teams or the rare wins against the Eagles or the fluke Detroit game but both teams pass defense was weak and mid respectivly. Everything else it's a wrap. Romo could throw 5 INTs and you'll still watch cause you know he's gonna pull some Houdini shit. With Dak it's just futile. It's a drag. We rarely actually have explosiveness and quick scores to mount a comeback.
Like it drives me absolutely bat shit as a thirsty Cowboys fan why Dak stans can't see this shit. How can anyone that's sentient and intelligent not see this shit.
Sad to admit this, but I turned off the packers game start on second quarter. Dad calls me when it half way into the fourth to give me shit about the game. Told him I hadn’t been watching for hours. Had to ask the score.
Yeah I agree. What was his marquee victory last season? He beat a floundering Eagles team? Not bad I guess but they were cooked and everyone saw the writing on the wall. What has been Dak’s signature victory since starting with Dallas? What does his resume look like against the best of the best?
The only thing is that it feels like the whole team falls apart in big games. Not just Dak. Thats why I think it’s more of a coaching issue rather than a Dak issue
Again that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Dak playing well when facing a solid contender and the team isn't perfect. This is strictly about Dak's play in big moments.
Let's take an example from Romo. When he played Payton Manning's Denver team, our defense absolutely shit the bed. Like they didn't even force a punt. Romo still played well. He still put up points and we actually had the lead in certain points in the game. Despite the defense not helping him out all. That's what I mean.
Then we talk about significant wins when the team doesn't fall apart:
Romo beat the undefeated Saints.
Romo beat the Legion of Boom in Seattle,
Romo wins a game with a fractured back, and another game with a punctured lung.
What is Dak's actual signature moment in his 8 years playing for us?
Are you trying to tell me Romo had a better team and better coaching than Dak? Or is it simply one QB never got PTSDd even when he had a punctured lung and got shit done.
Why is it that whenever we face a contender Dak looks like total shit and we have to make excuses for him for everything? At that point why the fuck do you even need to pay him big contract if he can't face adversity? At that point you're literally saying our QB needs so much help everything needs to be perfect for him to do his job.
Make it make sense. You're never gonna win a SB if everything has to be break perfect for your QB. You're never gonna win a SB if the QB can't rally his team or at least his part of the team, the offense to look competent when the other side isn't playing well.
The way y'all make excuses for Dak you'd think he's out there making plays when he actually never does when the game counts. Which is why year in year out, our offense looks absolutely putrid against top teams. Both in regular season and playoffs. Even under the clapper and our weaker defenses, our offense never looked this bad unless the Romo was getting mauled with sacks. Dak ain't lived through that. So what the fuck is his excuse?
Dak defenders will always have an excuse. Fact if the matter is this team had the most 2nd team all pros and pro bowlers, and the second most 1st team all pros. Literally one of the most talented rosters in the league… yet they still claim Dak needs more help.
They’ll point at Daks numbers and say he was a legitimate MVP candidate and has been a top 10 or even too 5 QB in this league for the stats he put up, yet then those same coaches that lead this team to 3 straight 12-5 seasons and helped coach Dak into an MVP QB who can at times okay so we’ll are just terrible and it’s all their fault when Dak plays bad.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the coaching staff is good, it absolutely needs to be replaced. Nor am I saying there aren’t holes on this roster when there clearly are. But to say those are the reason Dak consistently disappears in big games and vs real contenders is just silly. They’re issues yet Dak also has an issue with showing up when it counts and it’s on him, yet they’ll never admit that.
Dak defenders will always have an excuse. Fact if the matter is this team had the most 2nd team all pros and pro bowlers, and the second most 1st team all pros. Literally one of the most talented rosters in the league… yet they still claim Dak needs more help.
They’ll point at Daks numbers and say he was a legitimate MVP candidate and has been a top 10 or even too 5 QB in this league for the stats he put up, yet then those same coaches that lead this team to 3 straight 12-5 seasons and helped coach Dak into an MVP QB who can at times okay so we’ll are just terrible and it’s all their fault when Dak plays bad.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the coaching staff is good, it absolutely needs to be replaced. Nor am I saying there aren’t holes on this roster when there clearly are. But to say those are the reason Dak consistently disappears in big games and vs real contenders is just silly. They’re issues yet Dak also has an issue with showing up when it counts and it’s on him, yet they’ll never admit that.
That's what I keep asking Dak's supporters. When has Dak actually beat a SB contender? What's his signature win. Where you're like damn this dude has arrived. This dude can keep up with the best of them
Can we rename this sub crybaby’s anonymous? Jeez, every post, the same bitching and complaining in the comments. It was entertaining for a bit but damn this shit is tired as hell, and it’s only May. 🤔
Has Jerry so quickly forgotten what a massive playoff fraud Dak is? We've been over this with Romo. Can we please stop trying to make a freaking 4th round QB into a super bowl winning QB? Start Lance, trade Dak, get Christian Wilkins, Maxx Crosby and the Raiders' 1st round pick for this year and 2 2nds for this year and 2024, AND DUNK THE DAMN BALL.
....uses the 12 games-three years in a row to say we're doing well, but doesn't use the 3 years in a row-playoff early round knockouts to say we're NOT doing well. Dafuq man - clueless.
The only people the Jones family is lying to is themselves if they believe everyone hasn't already figured out they're moving on from Dak. We all know he's gone after this season, they made that VERY clear with their choice to not improve this offseason and purposely going into rebuild mode. It's over, just stop acting like the sky is red when we all know it's blue. Not to mention half the fanbase think Dak's a bus driver and incapable of leading a team as a max contract QB. A max extension isn't happening unless they know they can unload him, which no one would take for that amount!
I know it’s a long shot. But I am more fan of Dak, than I am of the Cowboys. I want Dak to win the Super Bowl in a contract year so you can see contract go thru the roof.
We’re running it back. We’re all in. We’re hanging around the rim. STFU Stephen
Precisely. Dipshit thinks bringing back Zeke and throwing to rookies at the OL is going to fix the problem. I’ll never abandon my Boys but this has been a trying offseason.
A trying decade
Almost three decades!
Wish we still had Roger
This is how I feel, finding it really hard to get excited about this season in any way.
Exactly, wtf does Stephen know about winning a SB?
Zero. FO is full of yes men, and the Jones' have only one scope to view things. This FO, hell this franchise, needs to be challenged. Unfortunately that's not possible. The Cowboys are the Jones' play toy, and think they know what is best. It's why I have zero expectations moving forward and will limit my financial contributions as much as possible (definitely not buying any gear thats for sure).
Are the Texan's looking for any new fans?
UpHillMeBoys!
"Never fight up hill me boys!" - Robert Lee shortly before fighting up hill
Just dunk it in Just dunk it in
Fr throw that thing down like Shaq would and shut up these annoying Eagles fans lmao
> "It just so happens that sometimes that old oblong football doesn't bounce your way." They haven't gotten their guts stomped out in the playoffs because of a funny or unlucky bounce you fucking moron. They've gotten their guts stomped out because of penalties, lack of mental toughness, dog-shit coaches, and players who shrink in the big moments. Dak is one of them, but certainly not the only/worst offender. It's certainly not dumb luck. It's because this team has a personnel deficit in the FO, coaching staff, and players.
Mostly Dak and he is by far the worst offender and biggest fraud. He can’t win when the bright lights come on. It’s really that simple. It’s been almost a decade. Time to move on.
I agree that it is time to move on but there has been plenty of other failure here.
There has, but he gets the majority of the blame. When you want to be paid more than Mahomes, you better play better than Mahomes
I wholeheartedly agree. These people downvoting are freaking nuts. You can't pay B+ A+ money
Agreed. That’s been my point. I’m glad you put it in those terms.. B+ getting A+ money… I argue all of the time that the market is wrong and they’re vastly overpaying B+ talent.. Outside of Mahomes and maybe Lamar, I don’t think anyone is worth the $$ they’re being paid. Allen and Herbert have been flawed and Burrow is constantly hurt… Lamar can’t seem to get over the playoff hump, either.
Winner winner chicken dinner 🥲
If they are not planning on walking away from Dak next year, then this “all in” offseason makes even less sense. You’ll want to stagger the big deals of Dak, Ceedee, and Micha, so you don’t absolutely blow up the cap in one year. So he’s either lying, or is the most incompetent EVP in professional sports
>You’ll want to stagger the big deals of Dak, Ceedee, and Micha, so you don’t absolutely blow up the cap in one year. Uhh, what? What "one year" are you talking about blowing up the cap here?
You can’t sign a bunch of mega deals all in the same year. Well you could but you’d have to release a ton of players to do it.
While this may be generally true, you can back load one contract and front load another. Toss in void years, if necessary, to spread the cap hit on the signing bonus, etc. There are mechanisms to make it work, so it isn't the end of the world. It is prob better to sign at least one of the three this year.
There are mechanisms, but if we aren't close now then 3 mega deals at once, back loaded or not, isn't very conducive to a winning NFL team. At best it helps towards a win now season, which I think we all know is a joke at this point. If we were in a conference finals under Dak I would be down to throw the cap to the wolves and agree it's not the end of the world. And honestly I still agree it's not, but three huge contracts in one year is definitely (and assuming we do not get conference finals again, or get blown out) on the road to mediocrity or worse
Howie Roseman says hi
it is so frustrating watching the worst people on earth function competently
Bowie also has close to $400 million of dead cap and void years that they’ll have to pay in 3 years. Philly has a window and after that, it’s over.
That's what everyone said when they went all in late 2010s. Then they won the Superbowl, reshuffled the deck and almost won a second and are still light-years ahead of us in terms of contract structure and negotiation.
While I understand the cap will continue to go up and they can continue to push some of it off into the future, at some point they’re going to have to pay the piper and it will impact what they can do on the field. Dallas has kicked the can down the road time and time again and it hasn’t worked out… I believe that’s partly why they’re hesitant to extend him, coupled with the lack of playoff success and he looked absolutely atrocious vs GB. He’s a good QB, but I don’t think he can get them over the top and elevate the talent around them.. If they re sign all of the big 3, they would account for virtually 50% of their salary cap. Bosa is avg 34 a year, which means parsons wants more… WR market was just reset and Lamb will command more than likely 35ish and Dak wants 60 a year over 3 years… do the math.. and back loading the deals will only hurt them even more.. They can’t do it and continue to do it. Lastly, Howie can do all he wants and they folded down the stretch… it’s virtually the same team with the same staff. I’m not entirely buying what they’re selling. They’re better off extending parsons and lamb and going a different route at qb and actually be able to put more talent around the qb.. I could even see just extending parsons and letting Dak and ceedee walk if you want more of a rebuild… hell, maybe even try to get a Herschel walker deal out of Lamb. I don’t know if paying a WR that much is best for this team.
Yes you can. You are only capped on the current year and not future years. Your lowest cap hit is a contract in its first yeat
lol, that’s not true at all. Vet min base salary in year 1 goes a long way so then the cap hit is mostly just prorated signing bonus. For Parsons, signing him to an extension next year could dramatically reduce his cap hit (much like us extending CeeDee right now could do to his) from the 5th-year option figure. With void years, back-loading, etc signing multiple long-term deals in the same offseason is not a problem. Just because the deals would be discussed by the media as $57.5M, $36M, $34M per year does not mean those 3 contracts will be carrying $127.5 million in 2025 cap hits.
Yes.
Well, they can still do it. They can also save the cap space to make in-season moves. Now from there to actually making moves....there's a big gap, of course.
This is the man that is going to be the owner for 20 to 25 years. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
No, when Jerry's gone, he will no longer be under JJ's dictates. It very well could be a turn of page, and hiring a real NFL GM !!!
Lol. He's just like his dad. You keep thinking he's not though.
No one is like JJ. He mimics JJ, but when JJ is gone, there will no one to mimic. You'll see.
I wonder what’s keeping Jerry around and kicking. Must be all those young gals he messes around with keeping him rejuvenated 🤷🏻♂️
I doubt it. Do you have any other theories??
There's a concerning trend in all these quotes from the Joneses where they boast about the regular season success.
To be fair the only way to _for sure_ not win a playoff game is to not make the playoffs in the first place. Three straight 12-win seasons is a better place to be than three straight 8-8 seasons.
*\*jason garrett claps in the background\**
While I do enjoy that, I would trade those 12-win seasons for one tank season and then a rebuild in order to legitimately challenge for a SB. We've been "close", but in actuality never really a threat in a while.
Oh pls stop with the "Well, It Could Be Worse..."
half the teams in the nfl would kill to have 3 straight 12 win seasons. This team is consistently good, but not great.
Every other team that has done that made a CCG. That 'achievement' is hollow
Okay
Would you rather hear them state that we don't think Dak Prescott can do it in the postseason? Therefore, we are dragging our feet on a contract extension. We didn't make cap room in 2024 because we don't want a $65MM 2025 cap hit when Dak walks away in free agency when he eventually disappears in the playoffs for the fourth season in a row. Everything SJ said on Mad Dog Radio is propaganda for the contract negotiation with Dak. Dak needs to understand that top dollars are given to QBs that succeed in the playoffs. If Dak is reasonably competent in the playoffs, they don't go 1-3 the last three seasons in the playoffs.
Not like they have any postseason success to brag about
And hold zero accountability for the post-season disasters.
Well, he can’t say they are releasing Dak even if they really are. That would kill the morale on the team for this next year. My speculation is they are giving Dak one more try to get over the hump of early post season losses.
You give this front office too much credit. They will re-sign him and get taken to the cleaners. Even worse is they could have re-signed him before free agency opened and freed up cap to actually improve the team.
It’s not like those are their only two options in terms of talking points. For instance, they’re not talking about how badly they want to extend McCarthys contract like they are Dak. They could pretty easily just say “Dak is our QB (in 2024)” and that they’re focusing on Ceedee and Micah first. Then if they theoretically got both of those done this season they could spew their usual cap nonsense and say they’ll address Dak after the season. Instead of all that they’re just saying they want to extend Dak and it’s a priority.
This is so rich: > It just so happens that sometimes that oblong football doesn't bounce your way. This guy is so out of touch. I can't wait for the postseason when the FOX camera zooms in on the Jones's box at the end of the game to show their annual reaction. Edit: can we also stop acting like winning 12 games in the last 3 years means anything? Every other team that's done that made a CCG. Dallas just flames out immediately when they play any one with a pulse.
But but but, it just means we're so close.
I love Dak. But i think this is secretly a rebuild/tryout year and they want to see if Dak can perform on a TERRIBLE roster. Gave Dak Zeke for one last dance, want to wait to pay lamb and see if they are going to invest in Micah or trade him to rebuild. We have no money to be competitive this year. McCarthy 1 year deal Dak 1 year deal Zimmer 1 year deal Zack Martin 1 year left Dlaw 1 year left. Enjoy it. This is the end of this generations Dallas cowboys and Dak may or may not be the future of it.
He’s not the future. It’s been almost a decade and he can’t get it done come playoff time. Time to move on.
We will see. Herbert, Lamar, Kyler, Deshaun, Tlaw, Russ are all getting paid. Other than Russ's win over a decade ago, your definition and standard of playoff success doesn't match every other team in the NFL unfortunately. Like I said, still a try out year. But unless something terrible happens he's probably getting extended.
None of them have been worth the money they’ve been paid. The market is wrong. Extending Dak only hurts them going forward
I hear yah, you are entitled to your opinion. Other people disagree
I know. Fan base seems to be split.
The fanbase is split. Every NFL gm and team in the league isn't. They pay these guys.
Dak has been paid, though. It’s been almost a decade of regular season stat padding, followed by playoff failure. $60 million per year is entirely too much for a qb of his caliber. As for other qbs, I would have never paid Russ or Dimes the $$ their respective teams did. I feel like they’re more in line with $25-30 per year… same with Kirk… I could see Dak around $35-40 mil with Mahomes at 50-55, but I wouldn’t go more than that. The market IMO is entirely too inflated.
I hear yah. That's the market rate if you don't want to be in quarterback hell like the other 20 teams in the league though. Broncos have gone through like what, 13 QBs before caving and paying Russ and even THAT didn't work out? Jets haven't even BEEN to a playoff game since 2010 (over a decade ago). The last time the Miami dolphins even WON a playoff game was the 1999 season, raiders two decades plus, commanders two decades plus. I get that YOU feel you wouldn't pay these guys. But like I said, every gm and NFL team pretty much disagrees. And it's for a reason
They can disagree, but the majority of them aren’t winning either, they’re only putting their teams into cap hell and look dumb doing so.
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We aren’t winning a Super Bowl with Dak or with Jerry
I really think people are underrating the possibility that this really is a reload year and not a total rebuild. I think Dallas may truly want to clear their debt and build around Dak, Ceedee, and Parsons for the next few years.
All of this points to this as Dak's last year if he can't win it. Last year of his contract, 1 more year of Zeke, last of of McFat's contract. Win or GTFO. I'm all for it.
McNoNeck
If Dak shits the bed again in big time games just cut him loose, I’d rather completely rebuild than win 12 games just to get fucked in the playoffs by his shit performance. He has had 1 very good game to date in the playoffs and the rest have been bad. If I’m a surgeon and only complete 1/5 operations sucessfully I’d be labeled a shitty surgeon..
That time has already past. Too Little Too Late.
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I don’t think anyone will be mad at them letting Dak walk if it turns out he’s asking for the contract people think he is. And if they do get mad at them for not signing Dak for what he’s likely asking for then they’re just silly since this team has peaked with Dak, and the peak isn’t very high, and the team will only get worse once he’s taking up even more of the cap. It’s time to move on from Dak and this is just a wasted year, but no exec is going to admit that.
I was just hopeful that he'd be willing to wave his NT clause and trade-and-sign a contract this year and we'd get some picks back. It's gonna be embarrassing that all we're gonna get is a comp pick compared to the haul Houston got for a literal rapist.
He can’t win come playoff time. He’s absolutely atrocious when it matters and he wants 60 mil a year for 3 years so he can hit the market again. They better let this man walk or it’ll be another 3 years of this bullshit.
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I would normally agree with you, but between how bad he was vs GB and them continually kicking the can down the road, I honestly don’t believe they’re going to do it unless he gets to an NFC championship game. They only kept MM because it would have been tough to bring in a new HC/system for 1 year and have Dak succeed. It’s make or break for the both of them.
Never gonna win a championship with Dak
Dak will win a Championship with no one.
Dunk it like MJ!
I genuinely haven't seen anything from Dak that tells me he can beat a SB caliber team. No I'm not talking about "defense gave up points". I'm talking about Dak actually putting up points when the game is still at hand and not when it's over or garbage time
here is some data to support your argument. I pulled the regular season winning percentage for some QBs against teams with 0.600 or better regular season records: 0.156 Kirk Cousins 0.256 Eli Manning 0.264 Matt Ryan **0.281 Dak Prescott** 0.288 Joe Flacco 0.289 Philip Rivers 0.321 Alex Smith 0.333 Joe Burrow 0.404 Drew Brees 0.486 Aaron Rodgers 0.488 Ben Roethlisberger 0.488 Peyton Manning 0.508 Russell Wilson 0.520 Patrick Mahomes 0.583 Jalen Hurts 0.591 Tom Brady 0.682 Lamar Jackson
At least Romo had this aire of "he could still bail us outta this" at any time, but once Dak is down by 2+ scores he's cooked.
That's the other fuckin thing. The moment this team gets behind in the first quarter by a score or two. You know the game is over. The cowboys can only win one way unde Dak. Stay in front. And the only way that happens is when we blow out bottom teams or the rare wins against the Eagles or the fluke Detroit game but both teams pass defense was weak and mid respectivly. Everything else it's a wrap. Romo could throw 5 INTs and you'll still watch cause you know he's gonna pull some Houdini shit. With Dak it's just futile. It's a drag. We rarely actually have explosiveness and quick scores to mount a comeback. Like it drives me absolutely bat shit as a thirsty Cowboys fan why Dak stans can't see this shit. How can anyone that's sentient and intelligent not see this shit.
Sad to admit this, but I turned off the packers game start on second quarter. Dad calls me when it half way into the fourth to give me shit about the game. Told him I hadn’t been watching for hours. Had to ask the score.
Yeah I agree. What was his marquee victory last season? He beat a floundering Eagles team? Not bad I guess but they were cooked and everyone saw the writing on the wall. What has been Dak’s signature victory since starting with Dallas? What does his resume look like against the best of the best?
The only thing is that it feels like the whole team falls apart in big games. Not just Dak. Thats why I think it’s more of a coaching issue rather than a Dak issue
Again that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Dak playing well when facing a solid contender and the team isn't perfect. This is strictly about Dak's play in big moments. Let's take an example from Romo. When he played Payton Manning's Denver team, our defense absolutely shit the bed. Like they didn't even force a punt. Romo still played well. He still put up points and we actually had the lead in certain points in the game. Despite the defense not helping him out all. That's what I mean. Then we talk about significant wins when the team doesn't fall apart: Romo beat the undefeated Saints. Romo beat the Legion of Boom in Seattle, Romo wins a game with a fractured back, and another game with a punctured lung. What is Dak's actual signature moment in his 8 years playing for us? Are you trying to tell me Romo had a better team and better coaching than Dak? Or is it simply one QB never got PTSDd even when he had a punctured lung and got shit done. Why is it that whenever we face a contender Dak looks like total shit and we have to make excuses for him for everything? At that point why the fuck do you even need to pay him big contract if he can't face adversity? At that point you're literally saying our QB needs so much help everything needs to be perfect for him to do his job. Make it make sense. You're never gonna win a SB if everything has to be break perfect for your QB. You're never gonna win a SB if the QB can't rally his team or at least his part of the team, the offense to look competent when the other side isn't playing well. The way y'all make excuses for Dak you'd think he's out there making plays when he actually never does when the game counts. Which is why year in year out, our offense looks absolutely putrid against top teams. Both in regular season and playoffs. Even under the clapper and our weaker defenses, our offense never looked this bad unless the Romo was getting mauled with sacks. Dak ain't lived through that. So what the fuck is his excuse?
Dak defenders will always have an excuse. Fact if the matter is this team had the most 2nd team all pros and pro bowlers, and the second most 1st team all pros. Literally one of the most talented rosters in the league… yet they still claim Dak needs more help. They’ll point at Daks numbers and say he was a legitimate MVP candidate and has been a top 10 or even too 5 QB in this league for the stats he put up, yet then those same coaches that lead this team to 3 straight 12-5 seasons and helped coach Dak into an MVP QB who can at times okay so we’ll are just terrible and it’s all their fault when Dak plays bad. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the coaching staff is good, it absolutely needs to be replaced. Nor am I saying there aren’t holes on this roster when there clearly are. But to say those are the reason Dak consistently disappears in big games and vs real contenders is just silly. They’re issues yet Dak also has an issue with showing up when it counts and it’s on him, yet they’ll never admit that.
Dak defenders will always have an excuse. Fact if the matter is this team had the most 2nd team all pros and pro bowlers, and the second most 1st team all pros. Literally one of the most talented rosters in the league… yet they still claim Dak needs more help. They’ll point at Daks numbers and say he was a legitimate MVP candidate and has been a top 10 or even too 5 QB in this league for the stats he put up, yet then those same coaches that lead this team to 3 straight 12-5 seasons and helped coach Dak into an MVP QB who can at times okay so we’ll are just terrible and it’s all their fault when Dak plays bad. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the coaching staff is good, it absolutely needs to be replaced. Nor am I saying there aren’t holes on this roster when there clearly are. But to say those are the reason Dak consistently disappears in big games and vs real contenders is just silly. They’re issues yet Dak also has an issue with showing up when it counts and it’s on him, yet they’ll never admit that.
That's what I keep asking Dak's supporters. When has Dak actually beat a SB contender? What's his signature win. Where you're like damn this dude has arrived. This dude can keep up with the best of them
We are circling the rim that is for sure.
Time to flush the $60+m APY request down the drain!
Can we rename this sub crybaby’s anonymous? Jeez, every post, the same bitching and complaining in the comments. It was entertaining for a bit but damn this shit is tired as hell, and it’s only May. 🤔
More BS from Stephen. He’s so bad, no one who flows the Cowboys closely believes a word he says. He makes Fish look credible.
Fuck the Joneses. That is ALL (in). 😂
Hanging around the rim? Like a giant turd. This front office is gonna cripple this team for years to come.
Only the Cowboys owners are stupid enough to think that we are one bad bounce away from winning a Super Bowl. These guys are so fucking clueless.
Has Jerry so quickly forgotten what a massive playoff fraud Dak is? We've been over this with Romo. Can we please stop trying to make a freaking 4th round QB into a super bowl winning QB? Start Lance, trade Dak, get Christian Wilkins, Maxx Crosby and the Raiders' 1st round pick for this year and 2 2nds for this year and 2024, AND DUNK THE DAMN BALL.
Lol. Lmao even Sucks to watch your team start a rebuild process while the general manager straight up lies about it
Or they aren’t rebuilding. This front office is incompetent. He could be telling the full truth here.
Considering the qbs that have won sbs. Absolutely. Defense wins a lot of them.
I'm tired of being so tired...
Whatever old man
....uses the 12 games-three years in a row to say we're doing well, but doesn't use the 3 years in a row-playoff early round knockouts to say we're NOT doing well. Dafuq man - clueless.
he been saying this daks whole career daks straight garbage 😂
The only people the Jones family is lying to is themselves if they believe everyone hasn't already figured out they're moving on from Dak. We all know he's gone after this season, they made that VERY clear with their choice to not improve this offseason and purposely going into rebuild mode. It's over, just stop acting like the sky is red when we all know it's blue. Not to mention half the fanbase think Dak's a bus driver and incapable of leading a team as a max contract QB. A max extension isn't happening unless they know they can unload him, which no one would take for that amount!
My understanding is that the ball is a prolate spheroid, not oblong. Maybe that’s the problem with it bouncing differently.
HE MF CANT WIN PLAYOFF GAMES STEVE!
Insanity.
Mediocrity at its finest
The entire Jones family is delusional.
Loves the rim job
Dak just dont have the skills to take any team to a super bowl.
I guess a rim job is better than no job…
What is he supposed to say
I know it’s a long shot. But I am more fan of Dak, than I am of the Cowboys. I want Dak to win the Super Bowl in a contract year so you can see contract go thru the roof.
I still love the team more than Dak but I’d be willing to see that play out just so this hoe ass sub will get of his nuts.
Rim job and a glory hole. Got it.
Heres some bullshit. Youll buy tickets. End.
Stephen doesn’t know what it takes so why should anyone take anything he says seriously?
Okay let’s use basketball terminology. Every year that shit gets slap back in the stands.
Maybe if you spent some money instead of double talking in the media we could dunk the ball
I 100% think Dak can win a Superbowl. With Dallas? Not so sure...not sure anybody can win here anymore sadly.
That's BS. And Dak will never take a Team to the SB.