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ManDe1orean

*because crusaders never did anything bad right*


Solarpowered-Couch

A handful of abuse allegations is a tragedy, [1.7 million deaths](https://homework.study.com/explanation/how-many-deaths-were-there-in-the-christian-crusades.html) is a statistic.


Best-Dependent3640

Calling this a statistic is quite a Stretch.


floorberry

That's a Stalin quote. "The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic"


Helmic

[It actually probably isn't a Stalin quote.](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/21/death-statistic/)


VeGr-FXVG

But Stalin was video taped saying it in the hit documentary Red Alert.


0rinath

Reinforcements have arrived.


JmacTheGreat

This comment thread is all over the place lol


Skyhawk6600

And given the rampant violence of the middle ages, it's sadly not a significant outlier either.


Randvek

Come now, are crimes committed a thousand years ago really “crimes?”


marinemashup

It’s not a crime if the government didn’t condemn it


sn0skier

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but that is literally true.


Titansdragon

Yes. You think people from 1000 years from now aren't going to call the holocaust a war crime ?


_b1ack0ut

…I’m pretty sure they’re being sardonic, and just hoped they didn’t need to tack an ‘/s’ onto the end


Titansdragon

Probably. But you never know. Religions justify and excuse some pretty heinous stuff.


New-Number-7810

Cough, [Ma'arra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma%27arra), cough.


ManDe1orean

whoa that went from 0 to 100 real fast


New-Number-7810

I was actually debating whether to reference ... that ... or the [Horses of Saint Mark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_of_Saint_Mark).


Helmic

in the crusaders' defense, at least they got held accountable for their actions. by being stabbed to death.


ChucklesTheWerewolf

Fight against centuries of Islamic aggression? But no, you’re right, totally nooooooothing bad ever done by crusaders, nope… **sweats in Jerusalem**


Supergabry_13th

This specific one is a good person


Helmic

akab, all knights are bastards


DrJay12345

I use the Jordi LaForge one personally.


Rare_Vibez

https://preview.redd.it/5a3ruwcu53zc1.jpeg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d478d6d9b7dffc8b3138d75b282d1e80556428dc I gotchu fam Edit: spelling error lol


DrJay12345

Exactly


Bakkster

![gif](giphy|Ld77zD3fF3Run8olIt)


Mekroval

I was wondering what else it could be referring to, then I remembered the Drake version was the OG.


booty_supply

Lmao same Geordi is the only one for me


TaffWolf

That white girl grimacing then liking it also works


AdmiralCodisius

*Geordi


Mediocre_Savings_513

If you are looking for a format that contains someone who hasnt sinned you will be looking for a long time


Diethster

I'd say Jesus but I'll leave that to spicier memers


Mediocre_Savings_513

Oh yeah, that guy lol


Druxo

Jesus never sinned? Not even once?


swifmatives

That's kinda the point, yeah.


Druxo

The point of what?


First-Of-His-Name

The whole Jesus thing


swifmatives

Sorry, I kept that vague. Jesus never sinning is the point of Him being Savior. He was tempted in every way like we are, but did not succumb to sin, instead overcoming sin for the salvation of mankind. He was made sin, taking the punishment the rest of us deserve, so we won't have to (2 Corinthians 5:21)


Druxo

Thank you!


Dorocche

From a modern moral perspective, the only morally questionable thing off the top of my head that Jesus is portrayed as having done in the Gospels is Matthew 15:21-28, when he tests a Canaanite woman by telling her he will not heal her daughter because she isn't Jewish, only healing her when she proves her faith in him despite the insult. The only other things that might raise a modern person's eyebrows are things like condemning divorce, where it's harmful in modern society but was standing up for the marginalized at that time and place.


kabukistar

But, as someone who is fully human, wouldn't he have been born a sinner?


Dont_Pee_On_Leon

Original sin is the belief that you are born a sinner due to your parents' sin being passed on to you. However, Jesus was not conceived through Joseph so that sin didn't get passed to Him. So to sum up sin is stored in the balls. It is important to note that not all Christians believe in original sin so they don't need to do mental gymnastics to figure out how Jesus was born sinless.


Bakkster

This is also the concept of the Immaculate Conception of Mary, that she was miraculously born without original sin either such that she could give birth to Jesus.


kabukistar

Why doesn't that just happen to all of us then? If yhwh can just toggle the "born a sinner" option, why not just toggle it off for everyone?


Bakkster

I'm not a theologian, so 🤷‍♂️


kabukistar

What about Mary's sin?


Business-Emu-6923

Let he who is without sin, kick the first ass!


Helmic

i can find quite a few memes that do not contain a known pedophile, actually


Mediocre_Savings_513

Uh, yeah, me too.


AdagioOfLiving

I thought this was Solaire at first and so I reflexively upvoted


NotAUsefullDoctor

This is similar to the reason I switched to Bandit for change my mind. https://preview.redd.it/2kpoepka23zc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95fbd83588b1fdbf738132de54ee258050c8dada


Aethrin1

My one concern about this is that it will follow a similar path to the Calvin peeing on things. It will be used by surly individuals to say stuff the original creator would despise and eventually tarnish the character a little.


Riskypride

It’s a kids show dog? Why are you this concerned about his character


Aethrin1

And Calvin was from a wholesome comic strip that many people (including me) read as children. Who it's made for doesn't change how it will be misused.


Multch_007

I like it, but what'd the original guy do?


QuercusSambucus

He's an awful right wing podcaster and general awful human being who abused his wife until she left him


Helmic

in the original context the sign read "male privilege is a myth, change my mind" - so a reactionary trying to convince people sexism is not real. not an unusual position for a wife beater to have, but even before those allegations came out and pissed off even other bigots he was always a vocal right wing shithead.


Multch_007

Geez, what an asshat. As a man in America, there's definitely male privilege. I wouldn't be surprised if he were a grifter of some sort who profited off of anger or rage baiting. I'm glad the wife got out (or so I heard).


FrickenPerson

He is exactly a grifter. The whole setup is he would go to colleges with as well of a prepared debate as possible on reactionary and high emotion topics, and have signs like that to stir up emotions from students who were not prepared for debates. Then, he would post the debates on YouTube. I'm fairly sure there is also proof out there that he would not post any debate where he lost, and he would specifically cut out certain parts to make the students look worse. Then he would post these and the comments would be filled with people making fun of the dumb left, and how they cannot seriously see how stupid their positions were. Also, he repeatedly dodged debates with actual commentators of politics who actually had well-nuanced ideas about the topics.


Throwaway392308

I mean, the original picture itself was pretty bad.


Multch_007

Yeesh. I've never seen the original. Guess I'll stick with Bandit!


Slashion

This is... way worse than just "accused abuser"


Ariak

Accused abuser vs known mass murderers lol


Slashion

Legit


Tankyenough

What has he done? Can’t find anything about that.


Slashion

He's a crusader. Does mass murder for religion ring a bell?


Tankyenough

No, the ”accused abuser” in the usual format


Slashion

Ohhh gotcha. I was just copying what OP said, and showing that one is way worse, even if they're correct. I haven't heard anything about him myself.


wellforthebird

Drake? Should be pretty easy.


Tankyenough

All I can see is one rapper calling another rapper a groomer in a diss track. Why is it a big deal? I barely even know who he is, I don't listen to rap, and this looks like some glorified gossip.


Pistolf

For a second I was like “what did the cartoon girl with the pink hair and sunglasses do?” And then I realized you were referring to the Drake one.


Dorocche

Isn't she from Doki Doki Literature Club? She could very well have murdered somebody.


lixyna

She is, but if anything, quite the opposite


fuckshitasstitsmfer

I could be wrong but i think theyre referring to the r/egg_irl meme format


Dorocche

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/coolyori-sayori-drake-meme Okay Sayori is not one of the evil ones. I take it back.


Pistolf

I’m not sure, as u/fuckshitasstitsmfer said I was referring to the egg_irl one. I’ve never played Doki Doki but she could be from the game.


kabukistar

https://i.redd.it/dx52pbj9uc041.png


Ariak

I’m sure no crusader ever did anything bad with a minor


8Frogboy8

How many teen girls did the average crusader abuse in the Holy Land?


Shady_Mania

I can tell you that crusaders did a lot more than just being *accused* of things.


ChocolateMilkCows

/u/shilolz abused me. … OP, you are now an accused abuser too.


martialar

How do we know that isn't Drake under all that chain mail?


GameCreeper

The crusaders regularly massacred civilians


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rspanthevlan

Deus Vult!


EldritchWaster

Being an "accused abuser" is the same as "not an abuser". Innocent until proven guilty etc etc.


FrickenPerson

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but also we know the Crusaders did a lot of terrible things, so if Drake is shown to be an abuser then maybe this is a poor replacement.


R-Guile

I'm not a court of law.


Shady_Mania

And thank god for that


Isakswe

OJ was a good man


OuffMate

Because I'm an edgy f*ck, this should be made with the Knights Hospitaller


Gregermeister961

we really canceling memes out here because of a rap beef huh